America in 2034

John Derbyshire, American Renaissance, June 9, 2014

“The Narrative” will hold firm.

Every weekday for two weeks–from June 9 to June 20–we are running essays by race-realist commentators on the future of American race relations. Specifically, we have asked them to imagine what America will be like 20 years from now. The ten contributors to the series, whom we will publish in alphabetical order, are:

John Derbyshire, Paul GottfriedGregory HoodJoseph KayPaul KerseyTom KuhmannGavin McInnesFred ReedRichard SpencerJared Taylor.

It is our pleasure to present our first contributor, John Derbyshire.


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John Derbyshire speaking at the 2014 AmRen conference.

● Demography. We shall of course be much more multiracial in 20 years’ time, with a huge indio-mestizo component, more East and South Asians and Austronesians, and big localized populations of Africans. The old 90-10 white-black U.S.A. of the mid-20th century will be fondly remembered only by white octogenarians expiring in retirement homes where non-white orderlies pick their pockets.

The result need not be unstable. Multiracial nations can be stable: Brazil, Malaysia. Contrariwise, monoracial nations have endured bitter civil wars: Spain, China.

Racial disaggregation in housing and schooling will be further advanced along the fault lines: black, indio-mestizo, other. “Other” will be a loose alliance of East and South Asians, white Hispanics, and legacy whites. Similarity in group profiles in behavior, intelligence, and personality, together with the common imperative to avoid concentrations of blacks and indio-mestizos, will override group differences.

There will be more high-wealth enclaves, as rich Chinese and white Hispanics settle here in hundreds of thousands. This may lead to a rise in employment of domestic servants–Austronesians and mestizos, probably–or perhaps robotics will take up the slack.

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Robot preparing okonomiyaki–a Japanese pancake-like dish.

● Ideology. The state ideology–“political correctness,” “the Narrative”–seems to me quite robust. I don’t expect it to change over the next 20 years.

The Harvard Crimson has surveyed this year’s graduating class. Fifty-nine percent declares itself “liberal or very liberal.” Only 14 percent say they are “conservative or very conservative.” These are the people who will be running the USA 20 years from now.

The Narrative on race–i.e. that all observed race differences in behavior, intelligence, and personality are 100 percent social in cause–should hold firm. The comforts, satisfactions, and rewards of adhering to the Narrative will keep the media and educational elites loyal, and most people will follow their lead.

● Dissent. I expect some measured tightening of the controls on dissent, for two reasons.

First, continuing failure of rectification programs will cause increases in cynicism around the margins.

This should be easy to police. Head Start has been failing for 50 years, but the elites still believe in it; and to the degree ordinary citizens know about it, they follow the elites.

Some extra policing will be necessary, though, to keep cynicism in check. Comment threads at major news sites will have disappeared. Public shaming will be more frequent. Psychiatry will have declared racism a mental disorder.

Second, the human sciences will deliver results discomfiting to the Narrative. This is bound to happen as geneticists, neuroscientists, and social psychologists probe deeper into human nature.

History tells us, however, that ideology, which rests on the emotions, is far more potent than science, which rests on the intellect.

There will in any case be less intellect around 20 years from now, as dysgenic trends push the bell curve leftwards and smart machines relieve us of the low-level intellectual labors that keep us alert.

So, again, not too hard for the authorities to control.

● Technology. Social change will continue to be driven by technological advances. Smarter machines will wipe out ever more low-level jobs, swelling the numbers of “useless mouths,” disproportionately among low-IQ races (blacks, indio-mestizos).

The fact that the population is getting dumber as the machines get smarter will be an accelerant.

Self-driving vehicles will be revolutionary. Cabbies, truckers, bus drivers, and traffic cops will be nearly extinct by 2034. Much lower accident rates will bring dwindling demand for auto body repairmen, insurance adjusters, tow truck drivers, and EMS staff.

With ever fewer jobs for the left side of the bell curve, a universal dole–a federally-guaranteed minimum income–will be in force.

Augmenting the pacifying effect of the dole will be increased surveillance of underclass districts, perhaps employing drones; so crime may actually decrease, leading to a reduction in non-black fear of blacks.

This could push back against racial disaggregation but probably not by much. Non-blacks still won’t want their kids in schools with too many blacks and indio-mestizos.

● Politics. With that tightening of the controls on dissent, the national politics of 2034 will have even less content than today’s.

Which is to say, practically none at all in regard to race. The US ruling classes today already have no differences among themselves on race issues. All cleave to the Narrative. All consider dissent on race topics to be “hateful.”

To the degree that party politics is of any importance, we shall be in a period of Democratic Supremacy. The Republican Party will either have contracted to its conservative (that is white, Christian, Southern) core and be nationally irrelevant, like 18th-century British Tories, or it will continue to offer the Narrative fronted by different personalities, as at present.

Probably the universal dole will be the last major domestic political issue. Even that will not be strongly contested; the need is too obvious.

Nature. Never leave Mother Nature out of your calculations; it makes her angry, and Ma’s not nice when she’s angry.

I have no expertise in climatology and must perforce fall back on the opinions of friends–sensible, conservative people with no axes to grind–who do know the relevant science. They assure me that yes, humanity is warming the planet, although the speed and consequences of the warming can fairly be disputed.

Even leaving aside warming, 20 years can bring some nasty surprises. A major volcanic eruption–not an infrequent event–could cause a years-long spell of cooling, as could changes in the Sun’s output.

Either warming or cooling could cause food crises in nations on the Malthusian edge in Africa, West Asia, and Central America, leading to Camp of the Saints-style mass migrations. With cheap modern navigation aids, this could include transatlantic flows. The United States has already received boat people from Africa.

I consider this a low probability, high impact event. As with the French in Jean Raspail’s novel, the Narrative will have been so thoroughly internalized as to make resistance impossible.

John Derbyshire is a novelist, pop-math author, reviewer, and opinion journalist living on Long Island, New York. His most recent book is the essay collection From the Dissident Right.

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  • Diversity Fatigue

    What you’ve described, Mr. Derbyshire, is a horrific nightmare for white Americans.

    • D.B. Cooper

      Over half white America is actually looking forward to it from behind the haze of their Mary Jane.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I hate to say that I agree, but I absolutely do. Legalization of marijuana in all Western countries is obviously not that far in the future. We are already well on the way to being a society where minds numbed by Cannabis will be more common than those that have only experienced Nicotine and Alcohol. This has been well calculated by our elites. Minds numbed by Cannabis are not attuned to the disturbing nuances of Negro behavior, and cease to purposely segregate themselves from Negro degeneracy. A sharp mind, with a sense of the subtleties and nuances of human behavior, is the type of mind that plainly sees racial differences in behavior and temperament, and proceeds to become a racial realist. This is the last thing the elites want. The elites want a docile proletariat. A White proletariat that welcomes our dispossession. The last thing they want is stubborn, strong-willed, clear-headed folks who refuse to accept our dispossession, and fully fathom what our dispossession entails.

        • MikeofAges

          But is it rather the middle and upper middle class which welcomes our dispossession? See my post below.

        • Uncle Bob

          The only reason pot smokers went left in the 60s was because Religious right wingers who wanted to get “tough on drugs” looked the other way and violated their rights as police kicked in their doors, arrested, imprisoned, and destroyed the lives of many young white entrepeneurs for a mild drug no more dangerous than coffee. The youth who should have been rallied to uphold Americanism and the constitution instead turned their loyalty to the communists/leftist who defended them and sympathized with their struggle against “The Man”. This was a foolish mistake as it made half the American population turn against their nation and the principals of limited government thus begining a multi-billion dollar government spending spree that has now ballooned into a colossal debt. It never should have become such a devisive issue. The founding fathers never would have believed that their constitutional republic would be overthrown by something as trivial as hemp pipe weed back in the days when people could buy opium over the counter.

          • Gus Baker

            You said was I was trying to say, GREAT POST! I agree 100%. Conservatives screwed up royal in the 60’s, but what’s worse is 50yrs later most of them still haven’t figured it out.

          • SoulInvictus

            Which is why the right should steal the issue and push for full legalization. At least take that one thing off the table and leave the Dems chasing and backpedaling in their wake.
            But I don’t see that ever happening.

          • Jacobite2

            The Founding Fathers (I assume they remain the gold-standard of ‘Americanism’) had no problem with the Common Law making blasphemy and sodomy criminal offenses. Restricting the vote to white, Christian, male, property-owners probably made legal pot a non-issue, as, in fact, it would today. Teleport any Founder into today’s NYC or LA, and he’d be begging George III to come back.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. Back then, White and Property Owner pretty much screened out all of the degenerates. I’m surprised at the number of folks on here who seem to think that smoking marijuana is as harmless as having a cigarette. Just shows how deeply ingrained the social changes of the sixties are at this point.

          • Jacobite2

            Well, none of the Founders would’ve been interested in smoking weed, because their society had made the choice of alcohol and tobacco as highs. Normal humans instinctively conform to their society’s mores. Accent on “normal’ if you please. What happened in the 60s was that American society fell apart and unleashed all our abnormals at one time. They’ve been rampaging through the country ever since, under the name of the Democratic Party.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. Alcohol and tobacco are the time honored socially condoned drugs for a reason. Alcohol in moderation is good for us. By moderation, I mean the glass of wine each evening that is time honored tradition in Mediterranean Europe. Nicotine stimulates brain function.

          • Jacobite2

            I think you’re right about alcohol and tobacco, but that doesn’t really matter. Our society and culture have chosen to accept these and exclude other drugs. As members of this society, that’s what we do. Those who cannot adapt to this society’s customs will be sanctioned and then excluded (we call them pariahs, weirdos, or Leftists). Any society can continue to exist only as long as that society’s members conform to their society’s mores. Otherwise, we see that society disaggregate, and be replaced by a healthy integrated society. Former members are killed or dominated.

          • SoulInvictus

            It is less harmful than a cigarette.
            To the point of being beneficial, and preferable over many prescription drugs.
            Especially if you were to need an anti-depressant that doesn’t render you impotent (but rather makes sex even better).
            It’s also one of the few things I’ve seen make Muscular Dystrophy bearable without trashing your liver or other side effects of narcotics.

          • ElComadreja

            Excellent post. This is the number one issue that turned many leftwards in the 60’s. It still continues to divide to this day with many potential conservatives on most other issues turned off by the hysteria surrounding pot.

          • SoulInvictus

            ^This.
            Hear.Hear.

        • sulbernick

          Not sure about that. I smoked weed for years but it never altered my perception viz race.

          • Brian

            If you want good weed, don’t buy it from a black man.

          • SoulInvictus

            Or good prices.
            Or uncontaminated.

        • Gus Baker

          I would say MJ being illegal is one of the biggest forms of govt power and control, I’m not a pot smoker myself nor do I encourage it, however the drug war is one of the biggest forms of power our govt has.

          • David Ashton

            The mass-marketing of addictive brain poisons may suit Soros and the tobacco companies, but not parents, unborn babies, policemen, doctors or anyone who seeks a revival of western civilization.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. The average person is vulnerable and impressionable, especially the average youth. The rugged individual who sees through cockeyed group trends is a rare bird. This is why the legalization of marijuana is another nail in the Coffin of Western Civilization. The average youth needs to be told to “just say no” to drugs, just the same as recreational sex. I am heartened that you understand the psychology behind this front and center issue. Legalizing drugs is just another Leftie attack on Western Civilization, the same as legalizing gay marriage.

          • David Ashton

            Thanks for your support. I have no time to present the medical case against cannabis, but agree with your position.

          • Gus Baker

            Pot was legal for most of America’s history, likewise cocaine and many other drugs. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Drug prohibition mostly started in the mid 1900’s, MDMA was still perfectly legal until 1985.

            If you’re kids become drug addicts that is your failure as a parent, blaming lack of govt is something a leftie would say, GM has never been legal, anywhere in human history, it is not even in the same category as drugs.

          • Gus Baker

            That’s not what I said.

          • David Ashton

            Point taken. What you mean is quite clear from your other posts here. Governments control the sale of food poisons, and prevent water poisoning and contagious infections, and are in principle entitled to curb the spread of addictive brain poisons.

          • Gus Baker

            Most of the food and prescription drugs our govt approves are more harmful to us than many illegal drugs. You say drugs are poison, well, sure, they can be if abused, many things can.

            By your logic we should ban fast food, candy bars, pop….oh wait, I think we have a first lady and a NYC mayor already trying to do those things. Do you live in NYC? Perhaps you’d be more at home there, and don’t worry, drugs are illegal there, you’ll be perfectly safe from them.

          • David Ashton

            I have never taken and never intend to take any “recreational drugs”. I scarcely touch alcohol. I have seen and studied the impacts that habituation has on victims in whose society we abstainers are expected to co-exist. There are of course degrees of personal and social damage. You reference to candy and fast food is relevant only if you think “many illegal drugs” should be equally available to minors. Cannabis, heroin, cocaine, LSD and crystal meth attack the mechanism of rational choice itself.

            I live in the UK which has police state and nanny state regulations objectionable on other grounds. A free market in brain poisons has long been a “leftist” cause here in tandem with the “equality and diversity” cause for similar long-term purposes, the corruption of our future generations.

          • Gus Baker

            I’ve never taken or intended to take any “recreational drugs” either, what’s you point?

            Your comment about candy only being relevant if we intend to give it to kids….WTF???? That makes no sense. I don’t know anyone who’s talking about giving hard drugs to kids (tho many legal drugs are prescribed to kids all the time) Candy, Booze, Tobacco, Fast Food, all these things destroy the lives of adults just a drugs do, that’s the relevance.

            Yes, drugs alter your perceptions, so does sniffing to much glue or paint, so does drinking alcohol, so do many legal drugs.

            I don’t live in the UK, I live in the US, I’m not familiar with your drug policies or history so I’m not going to comment on them, no one is arguing for “free market of poisons”, I argue we police BEHAVIOR rather than drugs, legal drugs was never “left-wing” in America until the 1960’s.

          • David Ashton

            Dealers supply kids with hard drugs and use them as suppliers too. The popular music scene is an effective factor in publicising them and make them accessible in clubs and at festivals. The liberal media falsely describes them as largely benign substances with positive effects on the brain, which they do not generally do with alcohol or tobacco.

            How do we “police behavior”? Does that behavior include the supply or consumption of perception-altering drugs at all? Such drugs also affect behavior, for example driving dangerously under the influence of cannabis. They can cause a breakdown in family life and in contractual relations between, for example, employers and employees. Restrictions on the availability of such substances reduces the possibility of harmful behaviors, and current costs of ineffective interdiction of supply must be measured against the prospective medical and social costs of availability.

            Why DON’T you argue for a “free market” in brain-poisons as there is also a free market in fast food or chocolate?

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I see it as protecting the masses from their own naïveté. Most folks are crowd followers. We Whites are far more individualistic, as a race, than the other races, but we, as a group, are still primarily crowd followers. This was what made Jim Crow such a beautiful thing. The leaders in the old South knew that most people are crowd followers. Being men of wisdom and insight, as well as benevolent men who truly cared about the average White person, they inculcated the masses in racial realism. Drugs are the same. I thank God I was a youth in the Reagan era. Good old Nancy Reagan inculcated the dangers of mind altering drugs. Not all youth listened, but the right tone was set. The average youth is a fragile work in progress, and needs such benevolent protection from adults to be set on the right course.

          • SoulInvictus

            “I see it as protecting the masses from their own naïveté.”

            And that is the slippery slope of tyranny.
            The left cites exactly this outlook in regards to gun rights.
            Freedom and liberty doesn’t only apply to things you agree with.

          • Gus Baker

            You’ve got to be kidding me. The “War on Drugs” has been one of the biggest failures in America’s history. How many people were murdered by drug lords, turf wars, etc, etc in the 80’s? How many billions and billions of dollars have been spent and continue to be spent yet if I really wanted to get any drug I could with little trouble. You don’t see turf wars over alcohol do you? Are kids shooting each other over alcohol? Why? Because it’s legal.

        • Raymond Kidwell

          To be honest a lot of posts and articles on here are borderline silly and I wonder if this site isn’t full of left wing/zionist Jews just making a silly charactature or satire of racist attitudes or if these posts could be real. Anyway, society is full of different people. I see those differences and still live among such people. Degeneracy is a problem, but this includes white people as well. This world view that non-whites are sub-human scum and whites are supreme runs contrary to facts, science, logic, reason etc. all those things you are associating with “race realist” actually need to be absent in large part to have some of the ideas proposed here.

          I think most people smoke weed because it helps them cope with their low paying job/lousy life. Others do it just for pleasure. I would say drugs are a major contribution to stupidity, along with flouride in the water, but the biggest factor is simply that the dumbest people have the most children (dysgenic trends).

          As well cannabis will not numb your mind anymore than alcohol. With the exception of very heavy use, the effects are not permanent other than very trivial cognitive decline (less than an I.Q. point). It does quell the rage somewhat more than alcohol.

          The average white person seldom has an original thought. He’s a sheep/lemming. It really doesn’t matter if he’s on drugs or not. For one genetics is the biggest factor, but the culture also encourages and nurtures those low elements within him. There is no need to drug a sheep into acting like a sheep, he was born that way. If whites were a supreme race where all members are superior to all non-whites, they certainly wouldn’t be going extinct.

          • Gus Baker

            The “average white person” gets bashed on this site probably as much if not more so than other races. There are people on here who say dumb things, people who make great points, like any site, what else is new?

          • Fathercoughlin

            People dont say very many “dumb” things on this site;they may write in a crude,or juvenile way,but what they say is pretty much accurate. Go on a lefty/civil rites/feminizzum site and see the sheer insanity that prevails.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Look at HIV/VD rates for Blacks everywhere they have settled in large numbers, whether that be Detroit, Africa, or anywhere on earth. Look at the levels of violence in Black communities everywhere. Look at rates of out of wedlock births. Oh, I do apologize, “dat be rayciss”, LOL. Are the statistics out there all racist?? Is that what you believe? Let me know how life is in Detroit after you buy your bargain house there. Since the stats are all racist, what are you waiting for? Houses in Detroit sell for the price of a used car.

          • Raymond Kidwell

            If blacks on average have a lower I.Q. it doesn’t mean every single black has a low I.Q. That is the illogical assumption. Just among whites I meet some that are geniuses, some average, some dumb. Some are scum, some are good people. Making such sweeping generalizations and then being totally committed to the idea that they constantly hold true doesn’t make any sense.

            Out of wedlock births among blacks was not very severe (not perfect, but nowhere near today’s rates) prior to welfare policies. Check out Charles Murray’s “Losing Ground” in regards to how self destructive America’s welfare policies have been.

            There are some black communities that are less violent than some white communities. Are blacks, on average, more violent. Yes. But does this mean every single black in existence is prone to violence? No. Not all blacks are poor. Not all blacks are low I.Q. Not all blacks are criminals. I don’t understand how anyone could really hold such an extreme view stretched almost to comical proportions.

            It seems to me that the majority of all races are relatively uncivilized. To be creative, rational, cooperative etc. is an exception to the rule. When you deal with that upper crust the majority of them are white. Ashkenazim seem to have the highest portions of such people although in some cases, they seem to have some oddly disproportionate degree of ethno-centrism and cruelty towards others that doesn’t make any sense.

          • Raymond Kidwell

            I mean if you are concerned about crime- why not go after criminals specifically? Worried about low I.Q. why not go after people who score low on an I.Q. test? Instead its like “dumb people are a threat. Let’s get rid of all the blacks” there’s an illogical assumption there. It seems like “diversity” is used as an excuse to lower standards. So we pour resources into the lowest performer at school (be he a retarded white person or a minority). We tolerate extremely uncivilized behavior (be it from the trashy white or minority), we make excuses for criminals etc. all in the name of diversity. But the whole race issue is just smoke and mirrors taking our gaze away from the real issue which are the low standards.

            If you simply don’t like somebody solely based on their race, then the arguments made here follow suit. But to make arguments like “we are going to be over run with crime if we let minorities move in” are not right. Criminal behavior is increasing in whites, even without the influence of minorities. If you look only at white test scores- they are falling. They don’t need minorities to bring down the scores- they are falling on their own. There is a deeper social phenomenon causing these problems- dysgenics, cultural degradation etc. that cuts across race lines. Meanwhile I think race is used by elites as a method to distract, divide and conquer regular people. It’s mostly a distraction from deeper and more important social issues.

            If you simply went after criminals, stopped pouring resources into the lowest element etc. the race problem would take care of itself. A disproportionate number of low class minorities would be deported, put in prisons, executed etc. but also the worthless white people would be included in that net. Civilized members of all races could work together cooperatively in a civilized society.

          • Brian

            But to make arguments like “we are going to be over run with crime if we
            let minorities move in” are not right.
            ===
            Sure, it just always works out that way by coincidence, right?

            Criminal behavior is increasing
            in whites, even without the influence of minorities. If you look only at
            white test scores- they are falling. They don’t need minorities to
            bring down the scores- they are falling on their own.
            ===
            You’re already falling, so what difference does it make if you remove your parachute? Logic fail.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Kidwell is obviously not a racial realist, or any type of realist. He tells us things we already know. We know that not all Blacks are criminals. We know that as a race, though, they have a significantly lower IQ than Whites or Asians, and that they are a far more violent race than Whites or Asians, and that once a community reaches 10 percent Negro, violent crime problems become a serious issue. Kidwell is a troll. He needs to realize that our focus, here at AmRen, is racial realism. We do not deny Negro sociopathy here. We see the behavioral realities that largely apply to the different races of humans, and realistically contemplate the ramifications of these realities. If Kidwell things he can bully me into being ashamed of my firmly held views, he had better think again.

          • Fathercoughlin

            Ha ha you are engaging in what Steve Sailer calls “Not Noticing Things.” Its where you pretend to be stupid so as to demonstrate your moral suoeriority. “Why yes,” says Mr. Stupid,” some blacks are violent but then so are some whites,you see…” LOL!

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            When did I say that every single Negro was bad? I write about what generally holds true, and speak from real life experience, not just statistics. My real life experiences with Negroes mirror the findings of The Bell Curve.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            Yes and the frightening thing, we were discussing exactly this point in the OJ thread, is that even the genuinely smart, educated and not AA hire blacks, when the poo hits the fan, stick to their own race in an irrational, tribalistic manner, unknown to any other group.

            I don’t know exactly what’s behind it (some sort of regression to the mean maybe ?) but i’ve never seen such a collectivist attitude, not even among the Chinese, which is kinda weird considering their self destructive attitude and their intra-group level of violence

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. I’ve known a good number of Blacks over the years. You are exactly right. They will defend other Negroes, even when they are defending behaviors of the most egregious kind. Obongo and his defense of Trayvon Martin is a first class example. He made a complete a&s of himself defending a juvenile delinquent who was attempting murder. Instead of seeing a murderer, he saw a fellow Black. Whites and Asians rarely engage in such lunacy. I have a good friend of Chinese descent. He was ashamed of the behavior of the Asian shooter at VA Tech when that happened, not defending the evil of a sociopath. I see White school shooters the same way. They are an embarrassment, not something to defend.

          • David Ashton

            Walter Williams and “Uncle Tom” Sowell stand out as welcome exceptions to this racial defensiveness.

          • JohnEngelman

            There are some black communities that are less violent than some white communities.

            – Raymond Kidwell

            Where?

          • SoulInvictus

            Ukraine vs. any given small black town in my area.
            Yugoslavia until recently?
            Any given part of Europe in the early 1900’s…
            Any given part of Russia in the same era…

            We’re less likely to personally assault or rob you.
            But now burning or blowing up your entire city, taking all your land instead of just your wallet… arguably we just do it bigger and better.
            Like everything else white people do.

          • David Ashton

            There is not an absolute “racial” difference, just variations in comparative statistics. See Jared Taylor’s facts and figures alone with regard to crime.

          • Martel

            “If blacks on average have a lower I.Q. it doesn’t mean every single black has a low I.Q”

            Holy smokes, let me write this down. If this is one of your “original thoughts”, I am truly impressed.

          • ATBOTL

            It seems like Amern and other sites that used to attract higher quality people are now getting more of the sorts who used to hang out at VNN and FAEM type sites — negative, pessimistic people who adopt ludicrously extreme positions and denounce every who is less extreme than they are. David Duke could be elected president and they would call him a sellout because he doesn’t advocate genocide of nonwhites.

            It would be nice these people would go back to VNN, looks like no one is there anymore.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Duke is an idiot who blames Jews for Negro sociopathy and Negro failings. He has Jews conflated with White Libtards like Kidwell, who enable Blacks by refusing to see the realities of Negro behavior. These folks are surely not all Jewish, and also do not cause Negro behavioral patterns. Negroes have always been a more violent, less principled race than Whites or Asians. They are to blame for their own problems.

          • Brian

            Degeneracy is a problem, but this includes white people as well….If whites were a supreme race where all members are superior to all non-whites…
            ===
            No one’s claiming that every white is superior to every non-white, but thanks for playing. We talk about TRENDS and PROPORTIONS here.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. We look at what is true more often than not, at the big picture. Libtards seem to have issues with tunnel vision. They always tell about having a Black friend, or point out a Black who works at a local business who does a reasonably good job, when we speak of Black sociopathy, because they refuse to see the big picture. That single kind and gentle older Black lady who lives in an all White neighborhood, and is beloved by her neighbors, is the exception amongst Blacks. The big picture is represented by Detroit, Atlanta, Chicago, Gary, Flint, Dayton, and East St. Louis.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            RK: Great post.

            Small but significant correction: the real problem, as I’m sure you know, is not that that dumbest people have the most children, but that they have them significantly earlier. The difference in breeding profiles between the right and left sides of the curve is geometric, worse still.

          • David Ashton

            1. There is a statistical overlap in average IQ between whites and blacks, and there are too many stupid people in total number in both groups.
            2. There is a case for painless eugenics in all races.
            3. Alcoholism is harmful too.
            4. On the latest medical data available here in the UK at any rate, cannabis in current average usage levels is damaging, even to the male reproductive organs, and aggravates or triggers psychosis.
            5. The historical evidence of long-term adverse impact of cannabis consumption in Egypt and India explains the support the authorities there for an effective international “war on drugs”.
            6. Lessons are to be drawn from cannabis tolerance in Denmark and Portugal, and from the war on drugs in Sweden, Singapore and countries other than the USA.

          • Martel

            “This world view that non-whites are sub-human scum and whites are
            supreme runs contrary to facts, science, logic, reason etc. all those
            things you are associating with “race realist” actually need to be
            absent in large part to have some of the ideas proposed here.”

            I can count the number of posters who make such statements here on one hand. If you want to impress us commoners here, I suggest you do not overgeneralise too often.

            “The average white person seldom has an original thought”
            Fortunately whites as a whole surpass all other peoples in the total number “original thoughts”,as demonstrated by Charles Murray. Do you have an original thought you wish to share with us?

            Warning, you will have to “speak slowly”, else I will not understand.

        • Frank Morris

          You are both wrong. If you think smoking marijuana makes one less likely to understand racial differences, then you’ve never been to a heavy metal concert, biker rally, Willie Nelson show, southern keg party, trailer park, etc.. or at least you weren’t paying attention.
          Not a lot of diversity proponents there.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            The folks you have mentioned are not generally diversity proponents. That is beyond doubt. My issue is that drugs, including marijuana, numb our minds instead of sharpening them. I am very much in favor of putting caffeine and nicotine in our brains, as these are substances that sharpen our brains. To use the Metal motif: Before Rob Halford of Judas Priest hits the stage these days, does have drugs in his system? Not hardly. He has been drug free since 1986, when he almost died, as a young man, from drug use. Compare Rob Halford these days to Ozzie. I rest my case.

          • Frank Morris

            Halford and Osbourne used far worse drugs than marijuana. You’re comparing apples and oranges.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Operative word for Halford is “used”. He has been clean ever since 1986, when he almost died. When he and the band embarked on the Turbo tour in ’86, Halford was clean and sober for the first time since Priest had been together. Unless The Metal God is lying to Eddie Trunk, VH1 Classic, and all of his fans, he now has 28 years clean and sober. Based on his demeanor, musicianship, and energy level, my guess is that Halford has indeed had 28 years sobriety.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Operative word for Halford is “used”. He has been clean ever since 1986, when he almost died. When he and the band embarked on the Turbo tour in ’86, Halford was clean and sober for the first time since Priest had been together. Unless The Metal God is lying to Eddie Trunk, VH1 Classic, and all of his fans, he now has 28 years clean and sober. Based on his demeanor, musicianship, and energy level, my guess is that Halford has indeed had 28 years sobriety.

          • SoulInvictus

            For people with extremely active minds (such as dealing with ADHD), it can be an incredible blessing to have something relatively innocuous that renders you into a childlike happy and sensual head space for a while.
            Staying “sharp” 24-7 can be maddening and unhealthy for those of us that are high strung and think too much.
            Plus, something about it does boost musical ability.
            In the same way tobacco helps stimulate short term memory and areas of the brain that affect vocabulary and creative writing, THC often serves as muse for harmonies and tangential,nonlinear musical thinking.

          • David Ashton

            Dreamland, with only incidental benefits to external activity such as art. Different drugs have different kinds of effects on the nervous system, but there are medical problems with habitual and even occasional use of many of them.

          • SoulInvictus

            Could not possibly agree more.
            I’ve seen more rebel flags shrouded in pot smoke than not.
            And that’s how the issue should have been stolen by the right and making them “cool” in the process. Sticking it to the Big Gov Fed Revenuers. lol
            Smaller government means legal recreational pharmaceuticals and moonshine. But I’ve never seen a Republican that actually wanted smaller government anyway. Just no social programs so that they can fund a massive and invasive military/police force.

            And anyone that would prefer to be around drunks than stoners is either crazy or inexperienced.

          • Gus Baker

            “Just no social programs so that they can fund a massive and invasive military/police force.”

            You totally lost me right there. I agree we spend to much on our military and butt into to things that are none of our business, but if you are suggesting instead that money should go into “social programs” you are just as nuts as the drug prohibitionists.

            How about we cut all those things and let people keep the money they earn and spend it how they like, “social programs” are just another form of tyranny and govt power.

          • SoulInvictus

            It’s just two sides of the same thing. One will pick your pocket at the point of a gun to prop up Detroit, the other picks it to buy another gun to make sure you don’t fight them picking it.
            Social programs work fine in white countries, until they start displacing their population through immigration.
            I’d like to see them try to pass billions in foreign aid, funding for alphabet agencies, trillions for foreign wars, etc at the state level.
            It would never happen.
            But yes, overall I agree with you.

        • SoulInvictus

          On the upside, legal pot mellows the ghetto and massively thins the incarceration expenses.
          I don’t see it as any more of a threat than legal alcohol. Not a great boon to advancement, but not the apocalypse most conservatives seem to think of it as any more than the end of prohibition.
          If nothing else, American farmers that have hung on through the expansion of corporate agriculture may get rich as hell like the early tobacco farmers.
          Occasional use of it didn’t keep me from coming to the realizations that led me to Amren…
          But it can offer a nice temporary respite from the frustrations of watching your race get flushed down the toilet of history.

    • JSS

      Well this is the new Amurrikan dream. Whites need to wake up from it fast.

      • propagandaoftruth

        He’s describing something between “Idiocracy”, “Judge Dredd” and the country of Brazil.

        I wonder what the attitudes of those college grads will be ten years down the line, however.

        I suspect Derbyshire’s predictions, as solid as they are, may be influenced by the very cynicism Mr. Derbyshire now (justly) suffers from himself.
        Regardless, we must continue working to build our people’s sense of group identity. 20 years from now things may continue on their current inertial vector, but a collapse is not impossible.

        Ironically, my hope for our Folk is still based in Europe. I think it highly possible that the “far right” will indeed triumph in Europa, resulting in a form of isolation for us, which could impel events one way or another…

    • Truthseeker

      Which is why we need to take more action to be sure it doesn’t come to pass.

      • Medizin

        Maybe, that’s why he wrote it…starting a fire under our backsides to get us moving.

        • Ellis Kurtz

          “..starting a fire under our backsides to get us moving.”

          ..and doing what exactly?

          • Medizin

            Anything…joining NumbersUSA, writing, calling, meeting with legislators. All I hear is “That won’t work.” No, it won’t work if it isn’t tried or just a few do it. We need the numbers.

            Amnesty was halted because people hounded their Republican legislators. The problem is they have short memories and constantly need hounded. Yes, they will walk all over us if we appear to be weaklings.

            NumbersUSA emails alerts when legislators appear to be softening again. Faxes are free unless you want to donate. It takes a few minutes to send faxes that go directly to your legislators.

            NumbersUSA is for markedly reduced legal immigration, no illegals, no amnesty.

            Also, Florida Family Association fights Islam throughout the country. Their fax set up is the best I have seen. It’s not a pro-White cause, but it helps us indirectly.

            Then, there was Operation American Spring. Excuses, “I have to work,” I can’t afford the gas,” “I can’t make it, but will be there in spirit” are frequent. Can’t take a vacation day(s), go Saturday or Sunday, or carpool?

          • Gus Baker

            Sorry but American Spring was a bunch of nuts, attaching yourself to that would have been a bad idea. No President or member of Congress is going to voluntarily step down no matter how large your protest. Also, this guy was going around promising 30 million people would show, the moment I heard that I knew he was a kook.

            So, you’re asking what’s my advice? I just prepare myself, my family, I have at least 3 marketable skills, working on a 4th, I buy precious metals, guns/ammo.

            I think we are past the point that we are going to change people’s hearts and minds, I could be wrong, hope I am, but the marxists knew what they were doing, and they were very effective at it, and sadly on the “right” all we had were NeoConservatives who sent people running into the hands of the Marxists even quicker.

          • Medizin

            Colonel Riley’s OAS was problematic. Agree, promising millions, and failure to market the event properly demonstrated inexperience with national events and the media. His motive, though, is right on.

            As a retired military member, he knows the enemy does not surrender without a fight. (Except Whites.) He openly stated he did not expect legislators to step down without a significant threat from a large number of people and realized it would take time, FORCE, if necessary, to make it happen. Persistence on the part of a large number of participants was critical. I would not call him ‘nuts.’ I’d say he was adventurous and daring. Typical of a military leader.

            Many causes begin with numerous blunders and failures. Then just as success appears on the horizon, another serious blow occurs. We didn’t go to the moon with one direct shot. Rather
            than ridicule those trying, shouldn’t we assist them. The reason the Biker rally was so successful, 1.4 million, planned only one month in advance, was because the planner was an event manager and Bikers were motivated. Knowledgeable Whites could lend assistance to those who show leadership qualities, but not the expertise on how to get the message to the public using the right words.

            The key is not to give up because of failures or appearing foolish in non-supporters’ eyes. In fact, ridicule from the opposing side, sometimes spurs some people on to great things. “I’ll show them!” Our history is abundantly full of Whites who did not give up regardless of the obstacles.

            Some pro-Whites don’t see opportunities in non-Pro-White causes. They don’t see how fighting Common Core, or
            stopping Muslim immigration, the refugee program, or to the extreme, removing the current regime, helps us, so they don’t get involved. In other words, if it doesn’t have “White” stamped all over it, it’s not worth the effort.

            “the marxists knew what they were doing, and they were very effective at it, and sadly on the “right” all we had were NeoConservatives who sent people running into the hands of the
            Marxists even quicker.”

            So, how do we change the national narrative, deprogram the public without media assistance? The public needs to begin
            changing before legislation will. Someone surely has suggestions.

            I see the same attitude Whites must have had before the 1965 Immigration Law passed. They gave up. Today, Whites fear their jobs. What if we paid someone to lead us so he/she wouldn’t have to worry about being fired? An organization
            formed where donations could be made.

            I no longer think using the White Race as our message is appropriate. Considering it has been a failure, we need another strategy. Preserving European-Americans, European
            American history and culture might meet with more acceptance. Race doesn’t enter into it; therefore, fewer racial attacks. Hopeful, there’d be less Neo-Nazi, Skinheads, White Supremacist, name calling.

            Others understand sentimentality more than explaining Whites want to live alone. Whites identify with their European ancestry more than with being White. The argument against “This is a nation of immigrants,” is addressed as, “We have always been a nation of European immigrants.” This is not to say, the leftist Whites don’t hate European history and culture and will immediately join us. It’s about getting more White conservatives.

            We should prepare for the worst. There will be difficult times.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Oh, OK, I will thumb you to a 100. I wonder the motives of such dismal outlooks, whether it’s defeatism–or actually tough love?

  • David Ashton

    How “stable” is Brazil?
    Malaysia has an established social norm, which could not assimilate a large Chinese minority.

    • WhiteGuyInJapan

      Malaysia is a rather stable society with a steadily growing economy. It is also a fairly authoritarian society. The latter seems to be the general model for Asia and I would argue fits the Asians quite well. Perhaps not such a great idea for more individualistic, democratic Northern Europeans, however.

      • IstvanIN

        They also have a certain respect for the native Malay population and culture. The postion of King is rotated among the five Malay provinces. I doubt we will get that much respect.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Authoritarian Asian societies are already having the last laugh as the West decays. Asians are racial realists who are not ashamed of their racial heritage, and know that Negroes and AmerIndians are their inferiors. Asian societies also have a United Front mentality. This is why they will prosper while American Whites sit passively in a cloud of purple haze, numbed to the horror of handing our country over to Hispanics and Negroes.

        • MikeofAges

          Middle and Upper Middle White Americans, largely, are highly influenced by Calvinism, Social Darwinism and Cultural Freudianism. They feel that if they prove their “worth” in relation to some identified external metric, their “worth” will take care of them. When it doesn’t they simply become confused and go off and sulk about it. To fight for their rights means facing the unknown — altering the metric perhaps in a way which aids others of their ilk not as advantaged as they are.

          Permitting their own replacement apparently is less disconcerting to them than seeing a change in the rules which might shake up their own culture. They evidently see this as less of a cold wind blowing through their corridors than the actual risk of marginalization which they now face.

          • LHathaway

            “They feel that if they prove their “worth” in relation to some identified external metric, their “worth” will take care of them”.

            Sounds like kids who play video games believing that ‘winning’ will do something for them when in reality the time spent playing is what will keep them from succeeding in the real world. Of course, perhaps they believe they’ve already failed or have no hope of succeeding and so (or don’t care to), and like drugs, this is another escape for them?

          • MikeofAges

            That is an issue. The issue of a “metric” is bigger. People believe, for example, that if they get a college degree, their degree will take care of them. And it should, actually. Outside of STEM subjects or job-related degrees like accounting, a college degree is more like a super high school diploma. Regardless of subject, that is exactly what it should be treated like, a ticket to an entry level job for an educated person, depending on the individual, a path to middle management or more of an intellectual or creative career. For a small number, a track leading to upper management. Unfortunately, in our world today, the well has been poisoned by the impact of “equal opportunity” regulations on the operation of the employment system. The law sets up boundaries that companies dare not cross, as the risk of ruining their business or at least ruining its reputation and compromising its autonomy. Daring to hire people based on some assessment of their ability outside of their provable credentials is a grave risk.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            As far as proving one’s worth, Whites looking to amass possessions and make a large salary, instead of having a goal to make enough while contributing to the greater good, is indeed a problem. The other races, as wholes, are more materialistic than us by a long shot. Even so, there is far too much motivation to achieve money/status instead of making our society a better place amongst Whites. An instinct for Altruism sets us apart from the other races. This instinct is a beautiful thing, provided that it is tempered with common sense, and thoroughly guided by racial realism. Altruism should never be squandered on Negroes. Much of this has occurred, and it is casting pearls before a race of swine. Negroes are always going to behave as barbarians.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I wholeheartedly agree.
            We need to 1) make peace with unpleasant realities far different from our desired world 2) clean our own house.
            Everything else will follow.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            Curious way of putting it, you may be right.
            Thank you.

        • WhiteGuyInJapan

          Most East and Southeast Asian nations are also incredibly homogeneous and unashademedly so. (Ethnic guilt is a unique-and ridiculous- trait of Whites.)
          With the more heterogeneous nations, specifically Malaysia and Singapore, their leaders openly discuss general characteristics of the Malay, the Chinese and the Indian and the need for strong,undemocratic leadership. Ethnic diversity without the ideology of Diversity (TM).
          Check out Lee Kwan Yue and Dr. Mahathir Mohammed and look for their comments about Chinese industriousness, Jewish IQ, negative comments about democracy (“un-Asian”) and the heritability of intelligence. Can’t imagine a Western leader saying such things.

      • David Ashton

        See e.g. Wataru Yoshida, American Renaissance, February 12, 2014.

        They have particular trouble with their Indian immigrants at present.

        A polyethnic “society” needs “authoritarian” methods of one sort or another either to control or to placate its diverse components. Hence the incremental transformation of England from a “mono-cultural” relatively free society into a “multi-cultural” police state.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Of course they do. New Delhi Indians have a very different temperament from Orientals. They do not fit into Oriental societies.

      • Jacobite2

        All normal human beings are instinctively social animals. Germanic peoples were generally democratic, but they were still living in societies, with all the commonalities that entails. Truly ‘individualistic’ humans are no more normal than those with hare-lip or club-foot.

      • Martel

        Last February Amren posted an article on growing ethnic tensions in Malaysia. Googling you find quite a lot of information on discrimination and ethnic tensions. On a side note,Chinese Malaysians are actually strongly overrepresented amongst the 40.000 gangmembers of this small nation, compared to Malaysian citizens.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      Mr. Derbyshire is wrong when he says that multicultural societies can be stable. Racially homogeneous societies may be unstable. However, when it comes to multicultural societies, political instability is a feature, not a bug. In reality, there are no stable multicultural societies, unless they’re under the iron grip of totalitarian rule. In the absence of totalitarian rule, multicultural societies always dissolve into bloodshed and anarchy. It looks like Derbyshire has bought into the myth of Brazilian “racial democracy.”

      The truth is that there has been significant racial conflict in Brazil, sometimes erupting into bloody, all-out race war (such as the 19th century Cabanagem), and acts of brutal genocide. Nevertheless, much of this racial conflict is manifested in terms of racial segregation along socioeconomic and residential lines. A major attenuating factor, conveniently ignored by Derbyshire, is the enormous amount of miscegenation that has taken place over the course of hundreds of years, which has paved the way for some degree of social and national cohesion. Brazilians of many complexions can claim ancestors of African, native Indian and Iberian origin, fostering some sense of a collective “we.” This is without precedent in American history, which is becoming increasingly ethnically fragmented because of endless waves of massive third world immigration.

      When the US finally collapses, because there is no social, cultural or racial glue binding its many disparate elements together, the fighting will become far more bloody and chaotic than Brazil or any other nation has ever seen or will see for some time to come. Unless stopped in time, immigration-fueled multiculturalism will take us to the brink of another world war.

      • Bossman

        The USA has always been a multi-ethnic state. First, there was the American Indian, then came the Europeans who imported millions of enslaved Africans. American democracy is a work in progress. That is why all American presidents are always talking about perfecting the democracy.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          You, sir, are a clown. The US started out as a white ethnostate. Blacks were segregated, Indians had their own nations and immigration was for whites only. Of course, this was all changed in 1964-1965, the beginning of America’s darkest hour.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Bossman is a clown indeed. America, 60 years ago, was almost 90 percent White. The South had a Negro problem that was seen for what it is. A problem. Older Whites had no intention of giving their society away to non-Whites. Northern Cities had yet to experience severe Negro problems, South Americans still lived in South America, and gambling was not seen as a respectable activity by most Whites, so the idea of American Indians bankrolling massive sums of money running chintzy casinos would have been viewed with horror. Our elders would be horrified if they saw what our country had become.

          • MikeofAges

            The Indian casinos provide an outlet for the gaming impulse which is more salutary than what Nevada and Atlantic City casinos offer. Indian casinos do not allow drinking at the tables or machines, at least the ones I’ve been to on the West Coast. Most gamblers are small stakes players.

            By comparison, the Nevada and Atlantic City casinos have a history of gangster ownership and influence, cater to high rollers, and are surrounded by vice. The Indian casino are not.

            Ordinary people prefer the Indian casinos to such an extent that the Nevada and New Jersey casinos in some cases are going out of business.

            I don’t know the extent to which people have developed gambling problems because of the proximity of the Indian casinos to major populations centers and travel routes. But someone who has a severe gambling problem will find a way to gamble no matter what. Just like alcoholics always find a drink and drug addict always find their drugs.

          • Bossman

            Blacks became citizens after the Civil War, that is a hundred years before 1965.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            What is your point? Blacks were disenfranchised and never considered part of the American ethnostate.

          • JohnEngelman

            Actually it was changed by the Fourteenth and Fifteenth amendments. These gave full citizenship and voting rights to blacks.

          • SoulInvictus

            ^ This.
            (Trying hard to reign in my impulse to ramble on in agreement.)

        • Gus Baker

          America is not a Democracy, it is a Republic, big difference. Likewise those races you speak of were segregated. Heck, even today all races are segregated, maybe not by law, but most stick with their own, it’s only knucklehead white liberals who don’t see this.

          • pons_asinorum

            “America is not a Democracy, it is a Republic”
            That is just wishful thinking. It has not been a republic for generations.

          • Gus Baker

            Well, obviously, I meant it’s supposed to be, I try to remind people of that whenever I see the word Democracy, however I know I’m just a drop of water on a forest fire.

          • pons_asinorum

            Fair enough, I understand. I just hear that often enough to make me cringe from libertarians who think it’s some kind of educational retort.

          • Bossman

            It is a Republic with a representative Democracy. The segregated races could still vote and were citizens of the USA.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            No, America is a multicultural police state.

            Black voting rights were severely restricted by means of literacy tests and poll taxes. Indians had their own nations. None of them were considered part of the historic American nation.

          • SoulInvictus

            And again, you get the slow Rudy clap from me.

          • ElComadreja

            Even as they segregate themselves.

          • JohnEngelman

            There is not contradiction between being a democracy and a republic. The United States is both.

          • SoulInvictus

            It was. It’s not.
            We’re a half step away from States being dissolved and national elections via Twitter or some such determining everything.

        • Brian

          Somewhere, a turnip truck is missing its rider.

        • MikeofAges

          There were never “millions of enslaved Africans” imported into the territory of the United States. The number, before and after the American Revolution, was about 600,000. The further importation of slaves was banned as of 1808. About 50,000 were imported illegally after that date. About 200,000 slaves were imported between the adoption of the Constitution and the ban on importation. Before that, the period of greatest importation was 1700-1760, about 3000 a year.

          • Bossman

            Okay, I did exaggerate but after 1808, they decided to breed them as much as possible. At the time of the revolution, one in four were black.

          • MikeofAges

            Was encouragement needed?

          • SoulInvictus

            Well, in all fairness, the number of enslaved and those successfully imported, is drastically different. Not said in support of the grievance machine or to further white guilt, but they did have quite a culling of ranks on the crossing between ports.

            I’m not a fan of the African, but even if it’s a retarded, violent child I’m not in favor of enslavement. Too easy for that to twist into a morality that allows you to turn on you own, as America has shown.
            I don’t have any problem or internal conflict about honestly discussing the horrendous history of the trade while also not wanting blacks around.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        You are absolutely right about miscegenation Einsatz. South Americans are a mess as a result of miscegenation. AmerIndians, White Europeans, and Negroes should have lived separately, as Whites and Negroes formerly did in the American South. The Negroization of America is the foremost thing destroying White America. There is a miscegenation epidemic, mainly between White women who have been culturally Negroized, and Negro males. They are giving birth to hordes of Mulatto children. Derb forgot to mention these Mulattoes. They are Negroes. Their allegiances are to the Negro race and culture. In 20 years, they will be young adults, making the Negroization of American youth culture more thorough than ever. Between these Mulattoes and Hispanics, White youth will be a minority, and only the strongest willed White youth will purposely say no to Negro culture.

        • ElComadreja

          Black + anything else = black. I have never met a mulatto (or quadroon, octaroon etc.) that self identifies as white.

      • SoulInvictus

        “wrong when he says that multicultural societies can be stable. Racially homogeneous societies may be unstable.”

        And that’s also disregarding the advantage of how quickly even the most bickering of homogenous societies comes together when confronted with external threats to the tribe. The same can’t be said for multi-cult societies that are already tearing themselves apart at the seams.
        The only reason this hasn’t already been the downfall of the US is sheer luck of not sharing a land border with a major homogenous competitor.

    • Sick of it

      Brazil is so stable they need death squads to keep the blacks in line. Oh wait…

      • 4321realist

        Yeah, I have a hard time believing Brazil is stable.

        The criminals rule the streets at night, while the elites live in guarded, gated communities.

        And they’ve had so much trouble getting ready to host the world cup from various factions and criminals they appear dysfunctional to me or close to it.

        They also have criminal gangs that are quite powerful.

        “Stable” is not a word I think of when Brazil is mentioned.

        Also there’s fighting all around the world where multi-ethnics live close to one another.

        • Brian

          Brazil is not first world, and it’s highly stratified, but it is stable in the sense that it’s better than a lot of countries, and isn’t rising or sinking too fast. It’s not Switzerland but it’s not the Congo either.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    If technology makes a big percentage of today’s workforce redundant in 20 years, or maybe it will take longer, the politics of the future and the ideologies which serve as their foundation won’t be incrementally different than today, they will be drastically different than today, and probably unrecognizable maybe bordering on alien to the 2014 observer. And I’m saying that not minding any of the other inevitable factors, chief among which is our increasing “vibrancy.”

    I do agree that either one of two things or maybe both will be part of the politics of that relatively distant future: Either a guaranteed minimum income or guaranteed employment with the Federal government being the employer of last resort. I also think that forced sterilization is necessarily going to have to be part of the deal. That said, I think that could wind up helping us in the racialist cause — If our income and/or employment is guaranteed, then we no longer have to fear losing our jobs in fear of being open racialists.

    • RisingReich

      You may not have to fear your job if you openly speak as a realist, but what’s preventing the Gov from just not giving you and yours your ‘dole’ as it were?

      Little hard to speak out if you have no food and water.

    • Geo1metric

      “If our income and/or employment is guaranteed, then we no longer have to fear losing our jobs in fear of being open racialists.”
      But you could still be incarcerated for “hate speech” since the Narrative will still be, at an increased volume, “Ebony and Ivory”.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Hopefully, in 20 years, Westsylvania and Southeastern Ohio will have seceded, we will be new states, and we will be resisting open borders, gay marriage, legalized marijuana, and miscegenation. A confederation of White states, seceded from D. C., with a new Government that can close the borders of our lands, and get the masses back to a true White culture is what we need.

    • Bossman

      Then what we’ll have is not a national state but a regression to tribalism.

  • shawnmer

    Sigh. Thanks for all the encouraging news, John.

    • Ted Cunterblast

      He’s a downer.

      • Brian

        We have to face the future with eyes open to have any chance of survival.

  • coco bongo

    Multiracial societies may have the appearance of stability but look a little closer and you will find one race in control and the others subordinate.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Exactly. Look at the former Yugoslavia. Muslims and Christians living side by side in peace?? The very thought of this working was pure naïveté. Racial and Cultural homogeneity is the only route to a peaceful society.

  • Anon

    Derbyshire gives a best case scenario. I find it highly unlikely. He ignores several important issues. The main one is white people create and largely maintain the system of wealth, production and distribution in the world. It works….but only to the extent that white people engage in white supremacy and police state tactics. More to the point, these things needs white nations to be a source. Failed multi-racial states like Brazil can go on, ONLY because the American dollar and our system of trade allows them to sell off their resources to us, in return for all the needful things of civilization.
    As white people fail, so does our system. A good example of what lies in store for us has already happened….the soviet union (which itself is largely dependent on OUR system of trade, these days). Once, extremely successful, the complete breakdown of, ummm, being white, has destroyed all semblance of working together. Specialization, cooperation, wealth, and distribution, hang on by a thread and only work as supplemented by a more functional system (ours).
    What Derbyshire doesn’t understand is there is no one for us to lean on. We are it. The backbone, the last straw. The buck stops with us (literally).
    The white way of doing things is education, skill, and a wealthy middle class. Those things are euphemisms for white. Everyone else, has slavery, maintained by poverty.
    A more likely scenario, I think would be a shrinking of America and Europe. Radical separation, to maintain the system. What happens after that will depend on the next generation’s willingness to breed (and that is looking not so good).
    All that is assuming there isn’t a world war about to break out. I find that also unlikely, if for no other reason than china has foolishly out developed its food supply.
    I’ll lay it right on the line. The Chinese have a choice. They can roll into Africa and wipe black people from the face of the earth, laying claim to the resources there, or they can face mass starvation of billions of people and a civil war that will break their elite class over its knee. Yeah…that’s not a tough one to call. Africa is the easiest victim for them with the most to gain.
    And the US, and white people in general, are not of a mind to stop them.
    At least not militarily. Quietly unnoticed by most (not by me lol) is the fact that a small handful of white people like T Boone Pickens (remember him) are quietly buying up all the world’s water rights.
    WWII was lost by white people because Germans ran out of gasoline. The next world war will be won or lost based on access to a much more basic resource…..water.

    • Nancy Thomas

      That’s right, the welfare state/marxist system crashes when they run out of other people’s money. i think it’s gonna get ugly.

    • JSS

      Excellent post. Your totally correct that when Whites exit the stage nothing runs and nothing progresses. Whites have created and maintain the modern world. Without us human progress will halt and reverse.

      • italian guy

        I agree with you and anon, Europeans build and maintain first world nations and to maintain that kind of standard of living you have to do specific job in a way that only IQ individuals can do, like farming etc.
        Look at the list of the “whitest” jobs in America from last year, White Americans are what is keeping America up and running.

        • The Final Solution

          Yes indeed. It’s also interesting the Bureau of Labor Statistics has something called the American Time Use Survey, and it shows that white people spend more of their time working than any other race in America.

    • M.

      A more likely scenario, I think would be a shrinking of America and
      Europe. Radical separation, to maintain the system. What happens after
      that will depend on the next generation’s willingness to breed (and
      that is looking not so good).

      Part of Europe’s and North America’s immigration problems is due to the steep decline in birthrates that started in the early 60’s.

      One of the main reasons the unfortunate 65 Act was signed was that, at a certain point, there just weren’t enough
      immigrants that came from Europe. The fertility rates dropped a lot
      across Europe from early 60’s on. The Germans themselves had to import
      Turkish immigrants for their Reconstruction, so let alone export some to
      the U.S. And America had to keep growing to check the Soviet influence, and
      it had to get its immigrants from somewhere.

      Same with Europe. Part of what motivated its more liberal immigration policies was the steep fall in the birthrates. As for Canada, basically it’s entire immigration is based on how many skilled workers it needs.

      • Brian

        The birth control pill may have seemed like a godsend, but it allowed more upwardly mobile people to have fewer kids, while letting the underclass (who wouldn’t bother to use it, and didn’t need to with the rising welfare state to take care of them) breed mindlessly. And as the productive class shrinks below population replacement level, the resistance to immigration drops as well.

    • LHathaway

      “What Derbyshire doesn’t understand is there is no one for us to lean on. We are it. The backbone, the last straw. The buck stops with us (literally)”.

      Pure fantasy. As whites decline greater will be the calls for the ‘diversity’ that will be needed to replace us.

      • Brian

        The Diversity cannot really replace us, economically and technologically. If they don’t have us or the Orient, they’re back to living in Cameroonian conditions.

        • LHathaway

          No, the society we set up is too stable. It will continue to run as whites become a small minority and then a forgotten memory, a ghost to still lay blame at. U underestimate the natural, native born superior ability of whites and their ability to build a stable civilization. . . ? Now, we will continue to read these stories about ‘destitution in detroit’ and ‘economic woes’ but that’s simply because there are too many white males still alive. These stories must be invented to pacify your desperately, and terminally wounded white psyche.

          • Brian

            What a bizarre statement.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I’m working a cataclysm theory as America’s salvation: a meteor strike causing nuclear winter, etc. China and Russia will go an African land grab (as you predict), laying waste to every African, and the U.S. will be too distracted and degraded to do anything about it.

      It will really matter the size of the meteor and the impact point, though. The unexpected meteor over Russia recently was a warning. We should heed it. If a larger one, at a steeper angle, hit the southwest U.S.—say destroying Los Angeles, Hollywood, and everything above and below the Mexican border, we’d have our country back in a decade or two.

      Remember that one that hit the Yucatan Peninsula??

      • Tarczan

        We can always dream. But who knows what will happen, a Carrington type event, EMP from a solar storm would do much the same. All of O’s EPA dictates have seriously weakened the power grid.

        No one can predict the future, but still, it doesn’t look good for white people.

      • SoulInvictus

        If the Yucatan impact happened again, we wouldn’t be worrying about getting any country back. We might even be invading equatorial countries to escape the cold.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yeah, that was a biggin’

          • SoulInvictus

            I don’t remember if it was. But even something around the size of the Tunguska event (unless it was Tesla and not a meteor like some theorize) would be devastating in a populated region. And that was in 1908, so not as rare as people think.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            If I had a few $million kicking around I would fund a study of a Tunguska like event at 10 different locations on the globe–and the human population effects.

            There could be very advantageous impact points for the remaining 5% of Europeans on the planet–and very devastating impact points.

            Probably the most devastating would be a North Atlantic impact. Maybe the most beneficial would be an Indian Ocean or Pacific Ocean impact. Given that most of the earth is covered by water, it is most likely going to be a tsunami event–followed by nuclear winter.

            It’s odd that the Tunguska in 1908 and the one in Russia recently were in roughly the same part of the world. Don’t know if that has scientific origins or if it’s coincidence.

          • SoulInvictus

            I’ll always wonder if it was the errant test firing of Wardenclyffe Tower’s “Peace Ray” capability. Really curious timing around all that.
            It’d be easier to dismiss is we weren’t still figuring out how to use Tesla tech of 1900 (wireless power/battery charging, HAARP ionosphere heating, etc).

            Either way, big rocks still find us a lot. I saw some theories about what would happen if that more recent Russian strike would have been denser metals or a little larger. …Reminds me of the “mass drivers” from Babylon 5.

            Yet another area where Neil D. Tyson is the only public figure I ever see call attention to the fact we have no defense in place for something we know with certainty could wipe out our entire species at any random moment.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It could also be white salvation–depending on where it hits. There is a theoretical sweet spot. My guess would be the Indian Ocean or the Arabian Sea. Imagine crippling Russia, China, and wiping out 2/3 of the Muslim population within a few weeks. That’s what an Arabian Sea impact would do. And still far enough away from white countries like New Zealand and Australia. It gives me warm fuzzies.

          • SoulInvictus

            I don’t know which would help us more, if it landed on Beijing or DC…

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Probably DC. And maybe a few fragments into Detroit and Chicago.

            I would wish for Massachusetts too, but I don’t think my bunker in northern New Hampshire is deep enough. And the air filters are only good for a month. <;-D

            (I should turn over that desiccated food, come to think of it.)

  • http://saboteur365.wordpress.com/ bigone4u

    Derbyshire drivel, written by a race mixer with a slant-eyed wife and children. My vision of the future is of a race of white male warriors who terrorize the federal government’s traitors, while ultimately achieving victory for our people. The road to victory will be a rocky one, with plenty of detours along the way. But the economy is dying and so is the white race. We know who killed the economy, our traditional family structure, and who demonizes our history. In my vision, payback for whites is sweet.

    • So CAL Snowman

      Yeah it seems like Amren jumped the shark with this ridiculous article. There won’t be a United States of America in 20 years, hell the whole thing is about to collapse right now. I love how Derbyshire calls Brazil a “stable” country. Brazil has more than 45,000 homicides every year, suggesting that it is anything but stable. Also Derbyshire never addresses the FACT that the petro-dollar will be dumped soon as the world’s reserve currency, which will destroy the economy of the Former United States.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        That’s another thing I’ve been gaming in my mind about the future.

        It’s perfectly obvious that Constitutional governance is dying, and has been for some time, and the Obama era has accelerated its death. I think we’re in the middle of a long term game of musical chairs, several people dancing around one chair. When the “music stops” (my metaphor for the day that what is now the Constitution for the United States of America is formally and legally disposed), who’s going to be able to get their butt in that chair? I hope for our sake that at the very least it’s a practical nationalist of the Vladimir Putin mold, fine with a moderate nationalist of the Marine Le Pen mold, best of all would be an out and out right ethnonationalist of fill-in-the-blank. I fear it’ll be an Obama type, secondarily I fear a “conservative” panderer in the Bush mold or a libertarian panderer in the Rand Paul mold.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Secession is the only answer. The White pot heads and mud Sharking Wig&er chicks need and deserve to be left behind with the Negroes, Hispanics, and Islamists. They do not object to the behaviors of these inferior races. White Nationalist homelands need to be secured, and need to separate politically from the Government in D.C. A confederacy of White Nationalist homelands, under a common Government, needs to say goodbye to the multicultural, Negrocentric albatross.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            Or, to apply what you just said to my metaphor, once the music stops, the only thing left to do is break the record.

      • Nancy Thomas

        There are NO countries south of the border that actually “work.”

      • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

        I would say Brazil is stable to the degree that there’s no danger of their elites losing power. It can be a nasty place, but if the elites are firmly entrenched, then that’s not really a concern.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          Brazilian elites have been able to attenuate racial conflict by offering the undertow an opportunity for upward social mobility through “whitening.” They also like to emphasize their multiracial origins, which ensures that there is some identification of the masses with the elite. However, underneath the surface of this apparent stability is a seething cauldron of race hatred that can erupt at any moment, as it once did in the past. The so-called “racial democracy” is a very fragile house of cards.

        • SlizzardAjeosshi

          Iron ore and grains yuan buy quite a bit of stability

      • WR_the_realist

        Brazil is not a country you or I would want to live in. But it is “stable” in the sense that it limps along year after year and shows no sign of going way. Plenty of pretty awful countries and governments have shown stability for decades.

      • Tim_in_Indiana

        There won’t be a United States of America in 20 years? Maybe you’re engaging in wishful thinking. History doesn’t always happen on our terms. Sometimes, the process of decay and demoralization (and perhaps eventually revolution) is slow and plodding. Expecting overnight change is probably unrealistic.

        • SoulInvictus

          I think Gorbachev was hoping the same thing. And then he was wrong.

      • Brian

        He’s just laying out the best-case– ‘best’ in the sense of ‘this is the only way the current trends can continue without collapse’. But that is a big IF.

    • The Final Solution

      We will hunt down the traitors like the Jews did at Nuremberg, like they still do. It will be no excuse to say, “I only voted for Obama because I thought he was the right candidate”. No. They will be hunted down and put on trial for crimes against the white race.

      • JohnEngelman

        I voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012. I am disappointed in him, but I am glad a Republican is not president.

        • WR_the_realist

          I am glad a “mainstream” Jeb Bush style Republican is not president. I am not happy that a Democrat is president.

          If bigone4u can have his military fantasies I’ll have my electoral one: Jared Taylor for president.

          • JohnEngelman

            If Jared Taylor wins the Republican nomination in 2016 he will be the third Republican I vote for.

        • MikeofAges

          I am glad you only have one vote. And glad you only vote once, too.

        • Paul

          Please find another site then. Did anyone else on this site vote for Obama? You’re in the wrong place.

          • JohnEngelman

            I enjoy political arguments. The only people who agree with you are people who cannot win arguments with me. Intelligent, well educated people enjoy having their opinions challenged.

          • Paul

            I’ve won every argument I’ve had with you. I come to this site like others because I’m a white man who enjoys discussions with my own people. You need to find a site for non-white socialists who vote for Mulattoes.

          • JohnEngelman

            When have you won an argument with me? How did you win? Feelings do not matter. What matters are facts and logical reasoning.

            I love to draw attention to the racial superiority of Jews and Orientals. Pointing that out is consistent with race realism. When explaining my admiration for Jews and Orientals I find it easy to quote material I have found on American Renaissance.

            You just want to reinforce your prejudices. I like to challenge them. If you do not like that, you leave.

          • Paul

            You keep missing the point. Find a Jewish or oriental website and spend your time there. Then please just emigrate to Israel or Asia and leave us free of your crackpot theories. The white people who created the United States don’t need you.

          • JohnEngelman

            You are missing the point. If you want to converse with people who agree with you, go on ahead. I do not interfere.

            I love to discuss controversial issues. I think I am good at it. If you cannot defend your opinions, learn to ignore me.

          • Corto

            You do not add information or perspective. You troll, and have a reputation as a troll. You cause controversy, then flee the scene when someone asks you a pointed question.

            Multiple people have asked the mods to have you banned. At least people could see the massive numbers of downvotes you were getting so they knew everyone figured your game out. Now Discus, pile of electronic dung that it is, does not display downvotes. Perfect for trolling.

          • LHathaway

            Scared of controversy?

          • JohnEngelman

            As best as I can tell an “internet troll” is someone who angers others on the internet. I anger posters by challenging their opinions and trying to make them think.

            I try to ignore insults. I do not remember fleeing the scene when someone asked me “a pointed question,” if it was a debatable point that advanced a discussion.

            If you remember, please ask the question again.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            There are a few instances where, honestly John, it does seem like you are trolling. The manner in which you seem to relish annoying people or getting under their skin, working them up, etc. is untoward and I’m hoping you *and* your sparring partners eventually tire of the whole dynamic.

            I am glad that you post here nonetheless. I appreciate your tone in general, I sometimes agree with you, and I share elements of your background.

            I voted for Obama in 2008. I became shocked and appalled at the implications of that some 9 months afterward. Live and learn.

          • JohnEngelman

            Barack Obama is a beneficiary of affirmative action. Like other beneficiaries, he is not able to perform adequately in his position. If the government is to play a major role in the economy, the government must be competently led. Civil servants must pass exacting civil service exams. There must be no affirmative action.

            I do not wish a Republican was president. I wish a Democrat was president who could defeat the Republicans on a daily basis.

            When the home team keeps losing the fans do not start cheering for the other teams. They wish the home team had a better coach.

          • SoulInvictus

            “Multiple” is understating it like saying “multiple” people on Amren would be opposed to the immigration of the entirety of the African continent into the West.
            When you step back from it, it is absolutely entertaining how childish he sounds without even realizing it. (“When have you won an argument with me? How did you win?”)
            He reminds me of every other leftist on Alternet, just with an IQ fixation.
            I would pay a few bucks just to see downvote display reinstated. Just to remove that false sense of agreement people like him seem to enjoy. Add to that allowing no anonymous upvoting.

          • alwaysright21

            polite f@ggot.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, he’s our loveable skipping record. His entire life philosophy fits in a paragraph, usually using the abbreviation “IQ” about 20 times.

          • Dave West

            If Asians were superior there would be Chinese, Japanese, and Korean spheres of influence and military bases dotting the globe. No doubt Asians are an average more intelligent than whites and very disciplined as well, but they seem to be timid and lack the creativity of whites. I used to have an accounting job and it was almost irritating how careful and slowly many of the Asians worked.

          • The Final Solution

            I’m going to post something I’ve posted on here before, something that Engelman has yet to explain:

            The only prosperous countries in ALL of Asia are Japan and South Korea with a combined population of around 175 million. So there are BILLIONS of Asians in the world who live in what most white people would consider absolute squalor. I’m pretty sure there are far more than 175 million white people on Earth who live very well by Asian standards. So who is more intelligent? There are more than 200
            million whites in the US alone and almost none of them live in the kind of poverty you find in Asia.

          • LHathaway

            You would seem to prove one of Engleman’s points, that those who are so desperate to boast of their race (in a bizarre, illogical or unintelligent way) have an inferiority complex of some kind at their core, but since everyone Knows Asians are smarter than whites all you’re likely really saying is that there is more to living in a nation with poverty than the average intelligence of it’s members. . .

          • The Final Solution

            That doesn’t refute what I said at all and I hardly think what I said is illogical or unintelligent. “Everyone knows Asians are smarter than whites”. Really? Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhannen are the modern authorities on IQ scores and they say marginal differences in IQ like those found between Asians and whites are statistically insignificant. I’m assuming you say Asians are smarter than whites because of IQ scores, and they say that small difference, which is about 5 points on average, does not equate to superior intelligence of Asians. Not only that, but about 95% of the entire world’s academic citations are from white European origin. Asians are basically non-competitors when it comes to actual scientific knowledge. Not what I would expect from a more intelligent race.

          • LHathaway

            Keep thinking that with your ‘proven superiority’ you have nothing to worry about from Asians, Blacks or Hispanics. . . ? Such a way is certainly not the way I think about it.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            Not only that, but about 95% of the entire world’s academic citations are from white European origin

            Are you sure about this percentage ? The bank i work for keep a database of academic papers about various subjects from all over the world, now i understand it’s not the same as citations, but from what i see i would say the breakdown of ethnicities is pretty much 50% 50% (including Indians in the Asian camp)

          • The Final Solution

            Yes it’s academic publications actually, not citations. There was a report that examined academic publications around the world. The vast majority, basically at least 9 out of 10 came from white European countries. That was a recent report, around 2012. I would have to dig deep to find it again.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            I would add to that group Taiwan, Singapore, HK, Malaysian Chinese, and around 1/3 of Mainlanders (and i believe in 10-15 years most China will look developed or at least upper-middle income) but that’s just fine prints: what i find interesting is the absolute unbelievable chasm between North East and South East Asians: now definitely Southern Europe doesn’t show the same kind of industrial ingenuity of the North, but the difference is nowhere as big as it is in Asia.

            Singapore and Indonesia, Korea and Philippines, Tianjin and Hanoi…geological eras apart

          • JohnEngelman

            When I use the word “Oriental” I speak mainly of China, Korea, and Japan.

            Those who take pride in Western supremacy over the Orient have been reading too many history books and not enough newspapers. Right now the West is in decline. The Orient is ascendant.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            Yes John i have no problem admitting that Korea and Singapore, Taiwan to a certain degree, HK and Japan are ahead of most continental Europe by a wide margin…i doubt it will last though, both places (The West and North East Asia) are showing signs of decline: i believe Asian nations still have a bit of the ascending cycle to ride but i highly doubt this will be the Asian century.

            Unfortunately this, if anything, will be the African century

          • JohnEngelman

            Negroes have a high birth rate. Without Western medicine they would have a higher death rate. They are dependent on us. They cannot supersede us. Orientals can.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            But they can se the agenda for the next century, to a certain degree they already are: the humungous progress in robotics we are witnessing inEast Asia is mostly due to fears of an aging population being eventually replaced by immigrants.

            Maybe this is more of a European issue as America has to battle with the very real threat of an emerging Latin dominance but i can’t help wondering what is gonna happen to this planet once Africa reaches a 2 billion people population by mid century.

            The whole Eurasian landmass, sort of a coaltion of the civilised and the semi-civilised, will spend unbelievable amounts of resources in order to contain the African negro expansion by sheer multiplication

          • JohnEngelman

            In the United States, without affirmative action they cannot rise. Without welfare they cannot live. In Africa they cannot live without foreign aid.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            I fear a camp des saints type of invasion, i am not scared of their political clout, i fear for the fabric of basic civilisation.

            Whe you have the power to destroy you have an immense power, even if your IQ is 70

          • JohnEngelman

            Negroes only have the power we grant to them.

          • Grantland

            Don’t worry about it. .

          • The Final Solution

            You mean like the Economist which talks about how Japan has been mired in recession for three decades? How the birth rates have plummeted in Japan and South Korea? Even China’s colossal economic engine is expected to slow considerably. People there still live on $100 a month. Pretty much all of the top twenty wealthy nations in the world are projected to remain so. If the West is in decline it is because of multiculturalism and liberalism.

          • JohnEngelman

            Japan still has the third largest economy in the world after the United States and the European Union. The Japanese still produce better automobiles and consumer electronics than Americans. The Japanese benefit from a declining population. Fewer people mean that there is more of everything good to go around.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            I understand the frustration and do trust me i’m not in the Asians are perfect camp, said so let me add a couple of points:

            100 $ a month is an abysmal income even in rural China. Factory workers take home generally speaking 400-500 $ net a month+ bonus and some perks for a 50-55 hours workweek. Many are pushing the 600-700 $ threshold. A high school teacher in a tier 1/2 city bring home about 700-900 $$. In places like Foshan, Shenzhen in the south and Tianjin, Beijing or Dalian in the north incomes below 1000 $ a month are considered kinda low. In inner newly developing cities like Wuhan, Chengdu or Chongqing the equivalent figure is around 750-800 $. Low wage service sector jobs in urban areas pay the local minimum wage, with overtime and everything around 250-300 $ a month.

            If we move to the poor interior typically low wage jobs pay around 150-200 $ a month (all net figures), a typical small town household generally live with about 3500-4000 $$ a year, including remittances coming from their relatives working on the coast.

            There are poor, generally old, people living on 100 $ month or some similar pittance, they generally own some kind of housing and land though and they’re a shrinking exception not the rule.

            Montecarlo is not, but neither is Congo or Moldova for that matter.

            China is a powerhouse rising from the ashes of her former glory, there are many nefarious things about life here but the progress every day feeling is tangible and i admire them for that.

            About the top 20 wealthiest nations: there’s scarcely a white manufacturing country of significant size in the group. Germany hovers around the 19th and the 21st place depending on the year.

            In the top tier group we find: goofball islamist petrostates with growing RE/tourism/banking sectors (Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Brunei), a competently managed European oil country (Norway), a few Asian&European banking/tourism/RE/money laundering enclaves (Luxembourg, Switzerland, HK and Singapore).

            Among this group only Singapore and Switzerland are endowed with a significant high tech manufacturing sector.
            If we move a bit down the ladder we find the good ole US and other 2 relatively sparsely populated commodity bloc nations: Australia and Canada.

            Finally in the bottom half of the top 20 we finally find smaller Central and Northern European nation, among them Finland, Holland and Denmark have either stagnant or deeply recessionary economies. Korea and Taiwan should surpass them, in terms of GDP per capita, in 2-3, maximum 5 years.

            UK, France, Italy and Spain are nowhere to be seen near the top and even mighty Germany is not doing that great with an expanding underclass of underemployed low skilled ultra-flexible workers (the hartz 4 crowd).

            Out of some sense of human mercy let’s leave Southern and Eastern Europe out of the picture.

            As other people posted: judging the quality of a civilization should not be based solely on their GDP numbers

          • The Final Solution

            I never said anything solely about GDP numbers. What I was referring to in terms of prosperity is exactly what you are talking about: indicators other than GDP. The Human Development Index is one such measurement which factors in many factors to determine the “quality of civilization”. And yes, white European countries dominate that list and will continue to.

          • Grantland

            Right now the West is corrupted by the rottenness of Jews.

          • JohnEngelman

            Really? How did one percent of the world’s population become such an effective agent for decay?

          • SoulInvictus

            And then there’s the perpetual thieving of white technology (which you totally need to do when you’re more intelligent).
            Subservience to authoritarian rule by nature.
            etc. etc. etc.

            We’ve both covered this ground many times.

          • JohnEngelman

            Those Asians were detail oriented and performed well. I bet they were paid well too.

            Asians have the sense not to have “military bases dotting the globe.” We don’t have that sense. Our bases are bankrupting us.

            Nevertheless, Asians can fight. If you don’t think so, talk to Americans who fought them in World War II, the Korean War, and the War in Vietnam.

          • The Final Solution

            He is a self-hating Anglo who thinks he is Jewish or wishes he was. The resident troll.

          • JohnEngelman

            If you can’t do any better than that, stop wasting computer memory on Jared Taylor’s website.

          • MikeofAges

            You’re to evasive and too discursive to have an argument with. No one wins or lose because it ends and goes on to another subject before it is settled. Maybe everybody is like that, but some are more like than others. And some are the worst.

          • JohnEngelman

            I have different values and concerns than many posters here. Nevertheless, if I make a factual assertion you can be sure that what I say is true.

          • MikeofAges

            Most of the posts here represent theory, conjecture and opinion. I don’t think yours are any different. And there you go again, shifting around the topic already.

          • JohnEngelman

            What topic? I admire Jews and Orientals. That admiration is consistent with race realism.

          • MikeofAges

            Your idea, as far as I can ascertain, is that whites, East Asians and settled Hispanics can all live together harmoniously. Your thought about the Jew essentially are a sidelight, since there are not large numbers of Jews any where in the United States except in a few states. New York has the highest percentage at around six percent, as reported by a Jewish website. I don’t know if that figure includes person self-identified as of Jewish descent but not adhering to the religion, or at least raised in it. I doubt it.

            In saying you admire Jews and Orientals, you also are signing onto the idea that different groups may produce members of occupations in different numbers. No one seems to have any conceptual problem with this idea except blacks. Not Hispanics, not whites, not East Asians, not South Asians, not anybody, outside of those who adhere to folk beliefs about “how the Jews run everything” and similar ideas about other groups. The idea that different groups may enter preferentially into certain occupations is basic conservative meme.

            Who objects to the fact that a lot if firefighters, even today are, are Irish? Or that a lot of physicists and mathematicians, even today, are Jewish. Or that a lot corporate captains, even today, are of British or Nordic descent. Or that a lot of engineers, even today are of Northern European and North Slav descent. No one, apparently, this side of the diversity mafia.

            Efforts always should be made to give other people a chance to develop, particularly in STEM education. But focusing all of your efforts on the people least likely to succeed and ignoring those with the historical track record is not a good formula. If a large-scale program of athletic development was launched and the focused on whites and Asian, blacks would scream high holy hell. And rightly so. The wiser heads would point out that not only is success in athletics an end in itself, but that within the black community success in athletics (and also performing arts) has been inordinately a path to wealth and upward mobility.

            If we wanted an honest discussion of race, these are the kind of things that would be on the table. As to having Eric Holder in charge of this discussion, well, if nothing else, you’re letting the other side’s lawyer define the terms of the debate. That fact alone and by itself makes the discussion not honest from the get-go.

          • JohnEngelman

            What you say is true.

          • Dave West

            I sure as hell didn’t vote for Obama. I voted Republican in both elections, which really isn’t much better. If there was a far right viable third party that could pull 10 to 15 percent of the votes I would defiantly vote for that. At this point that best we can hope for is that a few Republicans in office openly move towards race/immigration realism.

          • Grantland

            Vote for the Tea Party.

          • LHathaway

            I’m not sure you’re helping your cause, narrowing down further what it means to help and support whites. I always see this site as a way to gain converts or at least have other’s hear (on this public site) our often neglected or never spoken views and the experiences that helped formulate them, and not as a place to turn people away.

            It would be harder to find a smaller demographic than those who Openly support pro-white issues. You apparently would like to constrict that support even narrower, and boldly seek to do just that, by all appearances. Instead of seeking new converts or introducing others to your alternative way of experiencing life it would seem there is a drive in play toward exclusion, perhaps eventually leading only to a small pairing? I’m unfamiliar with prison gangs, or cults like those of David Koresh, but is it a matter of getting a smaller and smaller group with the price of loyalty being abrasion toward the outside world?

            Is it not enough Engleman supports even One of our issues? From what I’ve read, he supports more of our issues than any objective observer would be expected to. Eventually he’ll come around and vote for one of your precious republican politicians, a third one, anyway.

            Must he have voted for 4 republican politicians, or claim to, before he can post here?

            I’m reminded of Mathew Heimbock who formed the white student union, then labelled a group challenging him as ‘communists’. Didn’t whites invent communism? Aren’t more than half of the students at Townsend University leaning towards being liberal? Does the white student union need to be relabeled ‘the conservative white student union’? It’s not enough to have a white student union on campus? You’d turn away whites who want to join your white student union or white employee association?

            Mathew is doing more than any of us have every done. Eventually one might think leftists or those left-leaning would take over his white student union and vote for one of their own as it’s new president (by then mathew will have long graduated). Mathew formed the white student union, and doesn’t need to hide his views but I would assume he turns no one away, from his group numbering around 10 members, because they can’t pass a particular political litmus test. His group is open to non-whites.

            Since this article is about the future, I suspect eventually nearly all whites will come on board to right wing extremism. I think I’ve said it before, it’s almost a mathematical equation: accept the far-right, and all the crazy things they stand for (which I could go along with), or die. Right or wrong, Engleman, despite all his logic, will lose the final argument. It probably will have nothing to do with logic or right and wrong. It will simply be a matter of the us, the public, once again being manipulated. Engleman is half-way there. Isn’t that enough for you?

          • Paul

            Wow, there’s so many things here. Engelman is not a convert and never will be, he’s a troll. He doesn’t believe in white people and thinks they’re inferior to Jews and Asians. Secondly , No. whites didn’t invent communism, It was invented by Mr Engelmans people. Communism is alien to the white racial soul. In regards to Heimbach, he is a great guy and just what we need.

          • JohnEngelman

            Is it not enough Engleman supports even One of our issues? From what I’ve read, he supports more of our issues than any objective observer would be expected to.

            – LHathaway

            I support more restrictions on immigration. I am in favor of a harsher criminal justice system. I am opposed to the constraints of political correctness that often make it dangerous to explain the scientific evidence in favor of race realism and hereditarianism.

            Where I anger some posters here is in expressing my admiration for Orientals and Jews. That admiration is consistent with race realism.

            Above all else, I love facts that can be documented, and logical reasoning.

          • Grantland

            Isn’t it time for you to eat your daily lump of feces?

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          White and Asian race realists should have been more than wise to the crude everything being about race mentality of Obongo by 2012. Everything is about race with Obongo. The Negro race. His hatred of all other races was laid bare by his hateful response to the Zimmerman trial. Obongo is Black Hitler, and should have been impeached for the crude and hateful statements he made in response to the savage beating of Zimmerman.

          • Grantland

            The negroe race is inconsequential. It’s the feces-eaters we have to worry about.

        • The Final Solution

          No one has any doubt that you voted for Obama.

          • LHathaway

            I had some hope he voted for Romney. I didn’t vote. To be honest, I’m not sure which one I would have voted for.

          • JohnEngelman

            I am glad. I express myself clearly.

        • alwaysright21

          pajama boy obunghole troll

      • LHathaway

        Absolutely. I feel this will only take place after whites have their own ethnostate, almost certainly in the Pacific North West. Trial or not, we will collect them, brand them, and place them outside our borders. Lets hope something like the international red cross, or our hispanic, asian and black friends have mercy on them or they will starve or succumb to the elements rather quickly.

        This is a practical something we can do. Justice demands it. I would imagine giving them extra aid, helping them appreciate diversity, would only happen to much less than 01% of the population. It could be me or you that gets kicked out, well, it could be my progeny, anyway.

        • Grantland

          It’ll be you, your progeny, your kin and your pet cobra with the sonorous roar rejoicing of the multitudes in the background.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      My reaction wasn’t quite as negative, his predictions seem fairly plausible if current trends continue. Of course, it’s our job to make sure that current trends are stopped dead in their tracks.

    • WR_the_realist

      Good grief. Your vision of the future might make for a good fantasy game but it’s not going to happen. Any violent dissent will be quashed quickly by a federal government that has smart bombs and nuclear arms. A government that gassed and burned all those Waco children, and promoted the FBI agents who did it, will have no trouble gunning down white nationalist “warriors”. You live in Oceania now, you just don’t realize it.

      This country will become Brazil, with a small middle class hunkered down behind big gates, just as they do in Brazil today.

      • MikeofAges

        Terminal demographic condition. That means that there is no possible demographic even which can alter the demographic condition of a society or country. Brazil is there. California is there already. The last Anglo in-migration which actually affected the demographics of California was the “hippie” diaspora of the 1960s and 70s. There is nothing which can happen which will alter the trends of California today, or forestall its sociocultural future. Mixed Anglo, South Asian, East Asian, gentrified Hispanic overclass. Racially mixed underclass, heavily Hispanic influenced but still predominantly English speaking, into which all others will be subsumed. Including those who fall out of the overclass. With regional variations, that is the eventual destiny of all of North America.

        • Grantland

          Quite wrong. We will put the steel-capped boot to the invaders of our lands.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Derbyshire has an Asian wife? If so, why don’t we learn from the why and wherefore behind his decision instead of blindly castigating him?? White women need to get away from the man-hating feminism. Too many angry, homo-erotic White females, as well as far too many White wig@er chicks amongst the under 30 crowd push intelligent White men into the arms of Asian women. What morally principled, intelligent young White guy is going to settle for some tattoo covered slut with a Mulatto monster child in tow?? Between those types and the Ellen DeGeneres Lesbian types, it is any wonder that men like Derbyshire are married to Asian women??

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        The solution to man-hating, anti-white feminism is not racial suicide, but actually standing up to the forces of white dispossession and anti-white male hatred. Women are attracted to a naturally dominant, strong man, which is why patriarchy is wonderfully suited to the female temperament.

        How can we expect women to follow if men refuse to lead?

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          White Men of strong character do not settle for sleazy sluts covered in tattoos who have disgusting little Mulatto monsters in tow. They also do not settle for being bullied by a man-hating, sociopathic feminist.

          • LHathaway

            Better change your character.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I’ve been happily married for many years to a wonderful woman. We are very dedicated to each other. I’m reflecting on the under 30 crowd, the youth culture I see out there. The present youth culture has direct bearing on where Whites will be in 20 years. When I observe the present youth culture, I see pervasive immorality, miscegenation, and man hating as compared to 20 years ago.

          • LHathaway

            Immorality, miscegenation and man-hating seemed to peak around 1990. That’s just my opinion. It’s still there and I suppose the rest of whites are waiting for someone to turn that around. It may possibly be us.

      • WR_the_realist

        Yes, Derbyshire has a Chinese wife. There are some people who hate that just as there are some who hate the fact that Michael Christopher Scott has a Japanese wife. Me, I certainly prefer to see whites marry other whites, but like Jared Taylor I’m not going to tell a man he can’t marry the woman he loves.

        • Corto

          What if it’s a White woman and a black man? If they are in “love”, are you OK with that?

          • Zimriel

            By that analogy, one might take it that Mrs Derb married *down*. . .

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            It is not okay. Whites who bed down with Negroes are filthy scum. The Negro race is an inferior race. Negroes look like monkeys, and have defective, sociopathic temperaments. Whites who are sexually attracted to them are sexual deviants and degenerates who are mentally ill, and have Beasteality desires.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          I prefer Whites marrying Whites, but White/Asian pairings produce intelligent and attractive offspring.

          • Bossman

            White and Mestizo pairings produce the most attractive offspring. That is why Latin American women are always winning the Miss Universe Contest. Just a couple days ago, there was a Miss USA contest and guess who won? A Latina from Nevada won and last year’s winner was also Hispanic.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            These types of pairings produced the Mestizo race. Do you think that Mexico is a better place to live than Spain or Portugal?? Your ignorance is astounding.

          • Bossman

            The people that you folks at Amren like to call Mestizos are really American Indians of Mezo-America. Real Mestizos are the people who are winning the Miss Universe Contest. The short, dark, fat, simple people that sometimes cross the southern border without inspection are 90% to 100% Indian. They do that because they believe that America is their continent and so therefore they’ve a right to roam freely across it.

      • SlizzardAjeosshi

        I am (happily) married to a Korean woman, i’m not a white nationalist, i’m a race realist, an anti-democratic neo-reactionary and a military and anti-immigration hawk.

        Said so i try not to rub my personal choices onto the face of people here who always treated me so far with civility

        • Bossman

          And what kind of race realist is that? East Asians may be fairly intelligent but they are definitely not of the white race. Most Hispanics look more Caucasian than they do.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            Most HIspanics are short, ugly, violent, disgusting savages…at least i can talk about everything (when we are not oppressed by lenghty shifts at work) with my Korean wife: technology, financial markets, visual arts, music, political and military issues, business, gourmet food etc.

            I have nothing, and i want nothing, in common with hispanics

          • Bossman

            First of all, the term “Hispanic” is almost meaningless. An Argentinian who could be half German and Italian, a Black or Mulatto from the Dominican Republic and a Guatemalan Indian, all these people are labelled “Hispanic” when they take up residence in the USA. My idea of a Hispanic person is not a short, dark Indian from Central America but rather the racially mixed peoples of Latin America who can in many cases be very attractive.

          • Bossman

            Most East Asians are very short with heavily slanted eyes and no eye lids. Their faces are generally flat with a vapid and expressionless look.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            Yeah that’s why there’s a thing called the Korean wave churning pop hits, big budget movies and fancy tv dramas enjoyed by literally millions of people outside of Asia.

            When people think of the Mexican wave well something else comes to miind.

            Right or wrong, Koreans are one of the trendiest nationalities on the planet, Latin America is associated only with poverty, prostitution and demented violence

          • Bossman

            Latin America is America populated by people from around the world. There is both beauty and ugliness, these are young countries still in the process of formation and with tremendous potential. Just think, Brazil is twice the size of India but with only 1/5 of the population of India.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I think that Asians look intelligent. You can keep your squat monster Jabba the Hut Latina welfare queens, with their food stamps and screaming in mangled Spanish in public.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. The AmerIndians of South America are a regressive, violent people of low intellect and culture. The only semblance of culture they do have is from the Spanish/Portuguese.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I agree. The Hispanic females I have observed in public are loud and dim witted, only a very small notch above Negresses. They are Schmalzekoupfen.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          I bet your wife is a very bright lady, and very sweet and loving as well. Oriental ladies seem, by and large, to be bright, pleasant, clean cut, hard working, all around fine specimens of humanity. I wish you and your wife many years of happiness.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            Thank you and if you have some good klezmer music tip, feel free to share

          • Grantland

            You might very well be a charming North Korean agent; but do not unnecessarily wet your face on the stinking under-carriage of the New World Order.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Naftule Brandwein was amazing. I recommend the compilation CD: “Naftule Brandwien, King of the Klezmer Clarinet”. This CD is easy to find on eBay. Naftule was truly the King of Klezmer style clarinet.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yes, dear ole Derb should show some contrition in the race traitor area, I agree.

      Having said that, European-Americans will get their country back after the cata-clysm. It’s anyone’s guess what that catalyst will be. Notice the increased frequency of asteroid impacts? Notice also that many aren’t detected in advance like the one in Russia recently? Had that one had a steeper angle and made impact it would have amounted to a multi-megaton thermal nuclear event. And they didn’t know it was coming.

      There will be more, and the planners, the preppers, those with remote bug-out locations to withstand years of nuclear winter and power outages–they have the best chance of survival.

      Quasi-superpowers like China and Russia will try to exploit the situation which will keep the military off the backs of the militias and preppers. That’s what I see. But, many of us will perish in the process of taking back the ole stars and stripes.

      But, I’m old. I will take my trusty AR-15 to the front and take a few with me.

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        Ah, yes … the asteroids. Wasn’t there recently a liberal loon speculating in public about an asteroid near-miss being caused by global warming?

        Were the recent asteroids in solar orbit or were they wanderers? If they weren’t in orbit, did they come from the same direction, more or less? If they came from the same direction, have we just experienced the first few pellets of cosmic bird shot?

        Where I live now it’s illegal to own anything like an AR-15. By the end of the year I will be elsewhere and one of the first things I will do is acquire an M1A (semi only M14). THAT is what you call “trusty” and I will also take it to the front.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I may get another AR chambered for the .308… 5.56 has its place, but…. I like the M14, too. Yeah, I wonder which states will last the longest against the disarming Marxists who’ve stolen our country?

          All I know about that Russian meteor/asteroid strike is that they didn’t know it was coming. That cataclysm could also be a large solar flare, knocking out the grid for an extended period of time.

    • http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/ Reuben H

      That was uncalled for. If you disagree with the man, then argue your point. Leave the name-calling for the establishment Left. We’re supposed to be better than that.

      • Grantland

        Who’s “We”, kimosabe?

  • dd121

    If he’s right, I guess the folks here at AmRen are wasting our time. If whites become the minority, as predicted, I wouldn’t expect any set-asides or Affirmative Action for whites. They hate us and will see this as an opportunity to “settle scores”. The form that might take is anybodies guess.

    This statement I believe is totally wrong:

    “Augmenting the pacifying effect of the dole will be increased surveillance of underclass districts, perhaps employing drones; so crime may actually decrease, leading to a reduction in non-black fear of blacks.”

    The way the left’s treatment of minorities is evolving is to make them more aggressive, more criminal, but held less accountable. That could make the situation of whites a lot worse.

    • Publius Pompilius Quitus

      Antiracists do share all the traits of theocrats, their atheism notwithstanding. Their cant consists of humiliating of opponents, violent impulses against disbelievers, simplification of things into good/evil, and fall/redemption theology. We are the new heretics and they the new inquisition!

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      The point so many are missing here is you will have a majority non-white population. All in all, browns and blacks are just not that bright to even maintain our civilization, let alone build one. Think about it. Africans would still be pooping in holes they dig out of the dirt. Dysentery, let alone AIDS, would wipe them out in a heartbeat. Most everyone commenting here seems to totally dismiss the fact that without the white man, civilization is f_cked.

      • dusa1957

        Of course they won’t maintain our civilization. Only white people can maintain a rule-of-law western civilization. That’s exactly why I expect the USA to split apart along racial lines

      • dd121

        Brazil is now the country that people are predicting the USA will become. It is run by elite whites who live in gated communities. Millions of people live in cardboard shanty towns. It’s a country with deep fault lines running through it. It looks like we’re headed toward similar. Of course a situation like that could beak down into chaos at any time.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          I predict that the US is headed toward a large-scale race war.

          I’m skeptical that the US has a Brazilian future because one thing holding Brazil together is the massive amount of race mixing that has taken place over the last few hundred years. This miscegenation has largely attenuated racial conflict by considerably slowing down the ethnoracial balkanization of the country.

          On the other hand, when it comes to the US, there is nothing there to foster social and national cohesion. This, of course, requires some degree of genetic relatedness. With each passing year, the US is becoming more and more fragmented along racial and ethnic lines. Race war is inevitable.

          • LHathaway

            No, black vajaja’s will prevent a race war. If we ‘need a 4 bladed razor’ and nothing else will do, surely the site of a few white men with their wealthier black girlfriends and wives will be enough to prevent a race war. Especially since whites are too cowardly to really want one?

          • Bossman

            What then will happen after the race war? Will East Asians step in to pick up the pieces? What guys like you don’t seem to realize is that the rest of the world is watching the USA intensely. A strong, prosperous and united America is the only thing keeping the present world order in place.

      • LHathaway

        We don’t care about them?

    • dusa1957

      And why do they hate us, really? The real reason is ENVY. Deep down they know they are inferior, and the only way to remove that inferiority is race mixing.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      The left is not making Negroes and Hispanics more aggressive. Their aggression is genetic, and they have always been this way. The left does encourage them not to know their place, though, and to act however they want around Whites. Negroes used to be on their best behavior when around Whites.

    • Jesse James

      Every generation of negroes seems worse than the one that came before in my experience.

  • Raymond Kidwell

    I’d say “white” will mostly disappear. The remaining whites would be race conscious similar to Jews. Things would be similar to Brazil today in most respects. Most presidents will be democrat obviously, but a rare republican will win because a lot of people don’t vote and you also can steal elections i.e. George W.

    Affirmative action and such will be repealed as the few whites left are more race conscious and East Asians, Jews etc. fight against it as it no longer serves their purpose. There will be white enclaves as in Brazil but the majority of America will be non-white ghettos, as in Brazil. Immigration will slow to a trickle as American jobs become just as &^%ty as elsewhere and welfare also not much better.

    Really though if you live in one of the white enclaves in Brazil its really not that bad, although the national economy could be better if it was run more competently.

    America will be much like the Soviet Union. A military power, but not an economic one. Quality of life in the USA already is below most European nations. Again might as well move south of the border now while the American dollar is still worth a lot. You can gobble up cheap land and low cost of living. In 50 years America will pretty much look like Belize or Brazil or some similar place anyway.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      Bush won that fair and square, Al Gore was the one that tried to steal the election. We shouldn’t parrot kook left hobby horses.

      • IstvanIN

        True, and about the only good thing you can say about the Bush presidency.

      • Corto

        The fact that the American left has reached Satanic levels of toxicity, does not mean that the American right is not also primarily composed of crooks, thieves, and murderers.

        GWB was a terrible president. The last time we had a good republican as president was never ago.

    • Nancy Thomas

      I would NEVER move to any country south of our border.

      • Zimriel

        It’s moving to you.

    • anew

      He’s talking about a future only twenty years from now. Whites in the U.S. will not have ‘mostly disappeared.’ We’ll probably be down to around 1/2 of the population. I actually hope our share is a lot less than that, because we should be concentrating our resources on places that stand a chance like Europe and Australia/New Zealand i.e. I hope to see large numbers of whites from the U.S. and Latin America immigrate to these places.

      Europe needs the young white immigrants. The British Isles, Benelux, France, and Scandinavia have healthy enough white birth-rates, but they also have large non-white populations that must be demographically swamped. Iberia, Italy, and the German lands don’t have that many non-whites (still too many), but they have disastrously-low white birth-rates.

      As far as I’m aware, Spain is the only one that has made a sincere effort on this front, though their offer is open to all Spanish Americans, not just whites. Given the nasty economic and social malaise that has engulfed Argentina, Brazil, and Venezuela over the last few years, all places with large Iberian and Italian populations, I can’t understand why the motherlands have not been more-aggressive in recruiting its native sons—granted, they have their own economic troubles, especially Spain and Portugal, but Italy should still be a relatively easy-sell, and they’re all still way richer than Latin America. Even young Italian-Americans priced-out of decent neighborhoods in Northeast metro-areas ought to be tempted.

      • IstvanIN

        Italy and especially Spain have been actively recruiting non-whites.

        • anew

          What are you talking about, exactly?

          • Zimriel

            Zapatero, Socialist hack, in 2005 let in a lot of migrants and amnestied 800,000. But in 2009 he started sending the migrants home – to much chagrin amongst the “world socialist web site” types.

  • connorhus

    I like the part where he says “Multi-racial nations can be stable” Really? I doubt it when the only reason the US is so multiracial is due to White guilt and hatred to begin with.

    It will come to outright warfare I think before the numbers climb much further. Even if Whites fail to turn the tide the minorities have been taught to hate so much they can’t wait to start the violence. Let’s hope they jump too soon.

    • Kenner

      Stable under a dictatorship.

    • Nancy Thomas

      I think the Derb is smoking crack. I just noted at TOO…”Corrupt and violent non-whites of low intelligence, no history of economic success, intellectual achievement, or participation in a high trust society….encouraged to blame their failures on white “racism.”
      I believe that we are nearing the point where the nonsense is just too much to bear and whites will be forced to react.

      • cherrie greenbaum123

        Definitely getting closer to that point. With each new graduating class of white college seniors getting the shaft with high debt, and the affirmative actioned negro getting all the gubmint jobs (and continuing to bitch about racism) this generation will snap into a cold, race realist sobriety.

        • benvad

          Societies can turn sharply at a moments notice. Look at Libya an African Bantu loving society that turned into a lynching society before you can say Jack Rabbit.

          Things will heat up for blacks before they’ll know it.

  • Kenner

    The ‘Narrative’ is creaking and cracking NOW. The entire edifice is built on un-scientific lies. Our enemies need total control, and the harder they push, the more people awaken.

  • mobilebay

    If this topic could be publicly discussed with as much airtime as the Bergdahl case, perhaps the TV audience could learn what’s in store for our country. I don’t think we’ll ever go back to what we were, but so few people really know what’s going on. Those that do, either don’t believe what they hear or don’t care what’s happening to this nation.

    • Grantland

      “I don’t think we’ll ever go back to what we were”

      No, we will go forward, to what we should have been.

  • IstvanIN

    Brazil, stable? Numerous military government since the overthrow and of the monarchy and a going black population, unbridled crimes and huge poverty. That is my future?

    • M.

      Yeah, and also Malaysia isn’t multiracial, but multiethnic. Its population is pretty much divided into Chinese and Malays, but they’re both racially Asian.

      • Zimriel

        I wouldn’t count those two populations as anything alike, and neither – as it happens – do Asians. It’s like comparing Swedes to Algerian street hoodlums.

        • SlizzardAjeosshi

          Yes you are precisely right and Malaysia isn’t even that stable: government spending and natural resources are keeping the edifice together but it is resting on a shaky foundation, to put it mildly: bumiputera (native tribes like the Malays) promote a relentless islamisation of society, importing millions from dirt poor places like Bangladesh, while the Chinese productive class is fleeing for greener pastures in bigger and bigger numbers every year. There’s also an Indian tamil minority, they behave pretty much like American blacks

        • M.

          Swedes are European and Algerians are mostly of the North African / Middle Eastern type. Both the Chinese and the Malays are Asian. And the Malays, even though they’re Muslim, still have that Asian discipline about them.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      Hasn’t the Derb suggested on a number of occasions that multiculturalism can work? Methinks he needs to brush up on his history and his evolutionary biology.

      • http://unityofnobility.com/2013/05/02/the-notorious-fox-banned-9-11-2001-footage/ Augur Mayson

        If multiculturalists want to put their theory to the test lets see them remove all the cages from the zoo and once those barriers to animal togetherness have been removed lets see how well they all get along.

        • Sloppo

          I like that analogy. I hope you don’t mind if I use it in other discussions.

  • The Final Solution

    I think the important thing to take away from this is that soon there won’t be anyone left who remembers what America used to be like. When those people are gone, it will be even easier for the left to re-invent the narrative and promote the ideology that this country was never a white nation. The only America people will know who grow up in the next 50 years is a multicultural one, and sadly, more and more white women will default to multiracial relationships simply because of circumstance and the dwindling availability of white men.

    • LHathaway

      “it will be even easier for the left to re-invent the narrative and promote the ideology that this country was never a white nation”

      lol, you’re not talking about the future but the past.

  • Nancy Thomas

    I totally disagree with this prediction. I think that whites are waking up and that the narrative will be overthrown, probably by force. It will happen when whites see what I have seen in Los Angeles and realize that if something isn’t done they’re going to be slaughtered. And when you have nothing to lose the SHTF.

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      When the SHTF it’s pretty much every man for himself. That’s when we’ll see some tribal warfare. The elite will be at the complete mercy of the 90 percent. Whites will let the blacks assist in overthrowing the existing evil power structure. Whites will form the new communities and WHITES will dictate who can join them and under what circumstances. Intelligent negroes will do as they’re told. The others will be slaughtered. There will be little to no use for the effete, metrosexual crowd, except perhaps for entertainment value, like the court jester. It won’t be pretty for any of us, but we can work together and eventually return to a more civil society, white ruled and white controlled.

    • M.

      Whatever happens, whites need to remain clustered together as much as they can. There needs to be 90%+ white areas even when we’re less than 50% of the population. When whites remain together, it will make it easier to secede. There is strength in numbers, especially when SHTF.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    We’ve been warming the Earth so much that temperatures have remained stagnant for 18 years.

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      Excellent! I also froze my ass off this winter. Spring is way colder than normal.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    Another thing to consider is regionalism. On the coasts and in the big cities, expect more minority-driven anti-white policies and pathetic grovelling from hypocritical white leftists. In rural areas, conservative suburbs, and the vast land which makes up the plains, upper Midwest, Rockies, Appalachia, etc.; a more traditional America can and will survive.

    • dusa1957

      I predict the end of white limousine liberals. The reason is that invariably all white liberals turn into conservatives once they live in proximity to Negroes and/or mestizos. It’s much easier to maintain a romanticized view of other races when you don’t live amongst them.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      In the Midwestern states, secession needs to occur. Large blocks of rural counties need to secede from the Metro areas dominated by Blacks and Hispanics. Metro Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland need to be in different states from Southeastern Ohio, Northern MI, and downstate Illinois.

      • Usually Much Calmer

        Cities are where the people who know how to run economies are.

        I don’t mean central planning. I mean complex private finance and insurance activities that allow for the massive value added we all have gotten so used to.

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    Among other things, I have to ask myself who is going to pay for all of this. Where is the energy going to come from? Hubbert’s Oil Peak seems to be dismissed out of hand. Self driving cars? Maybe, but whose going to be able to afford them? Government dole for many, but who gonna be workin’ for all dat when the white man no longer roun in large number? Please don’t tell me you expect the Chinese to contribute to the “gibs me dat” crowd. If memory serves correct, I recall some miscreant (white) youth threatened with being caned for creating some graffiti in Singapore back in the ’80s. I thought it was a splendid idea, and one that should be implemented here, regardless of race. Alas, the bleeding heart libs helped the little bitch wriggle out of it…which brings me to my last point: The black man will be sorry to find that when da white man went, so did all of the free goodies.

    • Derek 78

      1. This is exactly what I was wondering: Who is going to pay for everything Derb is predicting here? It sounds to me like he overestimates the stability of the American economy. A nation the size of America circa 2034 would have to be fabulously wealthy to maintain current levels of defense and entitlement spending, not to mention the outrageous cost of the guaranteed minimum income he’s predicting.

      2. It bothers me that Derb sounds so clinical about all of this. If he believes all of this to be true, why go through the trouble of speaking at AmRen, or getting himself fired by writing about racial issues?

      3. As for the white kid who vandalized signs in Singapore– it was in the 90’s, and no, he got what was coming to him. Google “Michael Fay.”

      • Zimriel

        #1 – Dan Simmons had an answer to your query about military expenditures: these will be outsourced to nations who can and will pay for our mercenary services.

        #2 – Derb has cancer, and hasn’t got much to lose. He’ll say what he pleases if it agrees with AmRen, agrees with the SPLC, or annoys the both.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Kind of sounds like Blade Runner meets Idiocracy.

    • Grantland

      “Where is the energy going to come from?”

      Thorium reactors, en masse. No problemo.

  • Magician

    Our entire country might be bankrupt by then with all the resources being spent to pay for the living of 5+ kids given birth by African American women

  • MekongDelta69

    No one – no matter how well-versed, can predict the future.
    One can only guess what might be, based on empirical data.

    That said, in addition to the above, it might also be interesting to hear what Alexander Hart, Colin Flaherty, Nicholas Stix, and Peter Brimelow have to say on this subject.

    • Katherine McChesney

      I’d be interested in what Colin Flaherty has to say.

  • dusa1957

    No mention of the possibility of the USA splitting apart into separate nations defined by race, which would largely coincide with viewpoint. That is, Negroes and mestizos liking socialism since they benefit from it, whites and North Asians preferring free markets as they are the producers.

    • Magician

      nations defined by race

      Actually that sounds really really good. Well African Americans hate us. Why should we live together?

      • cherrie greenbaum123

        None of it happens without the white man. None of it. Guarantee it!

  • Kai is your guy

    If this course of the future were to come to pass, one option is the possibility of Whites returning to Europe —a grand exodus of Europeans. They would face probable chauvinisim as much of Europe hates Americans, but we would be among our people.

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      By that time they’ll be so happy to be rid of the blacks and browns we’ll get a homecoming fit for kings. All will be forgiven.

      • Kai is your guy

        I think your right. There are many variables that could create a Pan-European identity. For this to happen we would have to take what happens to one group of Europeans personally. For example, what happens to the Afrikaners happens to us all. It sounds idealistic, but it can happen.

  • Bossman

    Nothing too surprising about these predictions. The number of so-called Hispanics will increase that is for sure. The USA does not exist in a vacuum and events from around the world may influence life in the USA. He makes no reference to the aging of the white population and of white people having fewer children.

  • ricpic

    Derbyshire has considerable interest in mathematics and yet he says not one word about the multi-trillion dollar debt overhanging this country. I don’t see how an economic implosion can be avoided. When, not if, that happens all bets are off. Will a white America in extremis continue to carry its blacks and browns? Cracks in the foundation will widen and then the structure will collapse. After a period of intense violence several inheritor states of the United States will emerge and one of them will be overwhelmingly white.

    • Peter Connor

      When those EBT cards stop buying anything, chaos will break out.

    • Zimriel

      I agree, the debt is the biggest hole in Derbyshire’s argument. Interest rates blowing up, inflation blowing up, petrol prices blowing up, *serious* budget cuts leading to rulling-class blackmail (like the shutdown of EBT in strategic places close to suburbs in purple-states)…

    • M.Magog

      One can not ignore the fact that nations such as Russia and China will have an interest in, and will be actively manipulating the situation at some point. There will likely be TRHEE successor states. The mestizo southwest. The white nation and it’s enclaves, mainly The pacific northwest, some of the south and some of the midwest, and a Chinese supported remainder, governed by the remains of the US federal govt. Blacks will find themselves pushed to the remained of the federal USA and then shipped back to africa by the chinese.

  • JohnEngelman

    If the economy remains stagnant, the majority of voters may decide that with economic growth no longer possible, the desirable alternative is economic redistribution.

    This may lead to a well financed public sector of the economy paid for by steeply progressive taxation.

    Alternatively, the white Gentile majority may decide to economically disenfranchise non whites and Jews.

    The growing approval and practice of interracial marriage indicates a decline in racial consciousness. This is further advanced by the absence of major black ghetto riots, and a decline in the black crime rate.

    Consequently, I think the first alternative is most likely. Social democracy will not work as smoothly in the United States as in countries where nearly everyone is white, but I anticipate it. Non whites will not peacefully accept second class citizenship. In their resistance they will have many white allies.

    • Derek 78

      “Alternatively, the white Gentile majority may decide to economically disenfranchise non whites and Jews.”

      This is so far out in left field I don’t even know where to start. How do you imagine this happening?

      I think you have a profoundly warped view of modern gentiles. For God’s sake, one can’t even get through a sermon in a mainstream protestant church without being beat over the head with Holocaust guilt.

      • cherrie greenbaum123

        The Jews have been playing the Holocaust fiddle since 1945. It was getting tired in the 1960s, and then the 1970s they resurrected it with crap like Rich Man, Poor Man and again in the 1990s with Shindler’s List.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        “…This is so far out in left field I don’t even know where to start. How do you imagine this happening?…”

        Multiple, large secession events. “Disenfranchise” is code for “Secession”. The Rabbi and his people have their eyes on Long Island.

      • M.Magog

        he is giving us a glimpse into his true motivations and beliefs. Everything for him is about preventing another holocaust of the jews, even if it means destroying the non jews and their nations.

    • Frank Morris

      “This may lead to a well financed public sector of the economy paid for by steeply progressive taxation.”

      We have already had that for quite some time.

  • RisingReich

    Hmmm – ‘racism’ will be a mental disorder, public shaming will rise, as will attempts at quieting dissent.

    I think many on here are correct – we are close to entering a new ‘Dark Age’…

  • Lyman_Sweetwater

    Global warming and Climate change are FRAUDS John….!

  • Ted Cunterblast

    Oh, I definitely think there will be strong pockets of resistance. It’s going to get quite ugly.

    It will be interesting to see the reaction of the liberal Americans and mixed Americans (including Derb’s kids) to this Nationalist response.

  • MBlanc46

    Well, that just ruined by day. I hope that he’s wrong, but I fear that he’s right.

    • M.Magog

      Why should he of all people be right? Of all the possible predictions, what are the chances that this one will be correct? How many realities does he ignore and brush aside in order to make this prediction? Can the US continue to absorb and support the third world that come here to live on the dole? DO we have that many leaf blower jobs to keep them coming here? At some point, the load will be too great and it will all collapse. We are not Brazil. People can not live in huge numbers in half of these cities in towns that are nothing more than collections of corrugated iron and rubble. Without heat, populations in many non white areas will fall, as they have done in Detroit, when white civilization ceases to exist.

      • MBlanc46

        I’m not sure that I like your prediction any better, nor do I find it any more likely.

  • M.

    Whatever happens, whites need to remain clustered together as much as they can. There needs to be 90%+ white areas even when European-Americans are less than 50% of the population.

    It will also be easier to secede, if need be, if white people remained together.

    There is strength in numbers.

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    If I bought into Derbyshire’s theory, I would speculate that Muslims will take over large parts of Europe, America, and the Middle East. They will be instrumental in overthrowing Israel. Jews everywhere will be hunted down like rabid dogs and their wealth confiscated. The Nazis will look like Glinda the Good Witch compared to how Muslim men treat Jews. Sharia law will be implemented and homosexuals will be drawn and quartered. Muslim women will not have to worry about driving since newer cars will drive themselves. The only thing Muslim men hate more than white men is black men. Black men had better learn how to tap dance because the only way they’re going to last in this world is as entertainers. Hispanics will do the hard labor in the fields. White women who are young and pretty will be part of a haram. White men who are intelligent will serve as advisors. Not so bright White men will supervise the blacks and Hispanics.

    • M.

      Yeah, that’s not gonna happen.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Or maybe death rates will rise. India vs. Pakistan nuke war, Israel vs. Iran nuke war, etc.

        • M.Magog

          I’m all for the first. Ambivalent about the second.

      • Peter Connor

        Birthrates should decline in the third world, since they can’t feed themselves now…

        • M.

          Actually, the poorest tend to breed the most in the Third World. Sub-Saharan African countries have the highest fertility rates.

          Birthrates in Middle Eastern countries are still higher than those of White (and some Asian) countries, but they started to decline recently. However, that’s not because of poverty, but because of education. When more people pursue higher education, they’ll start to work (and thus have enough money to start a family) later in life. Educated people are also more susceptible to use contraception.

          • Peter Connor

            Their breeding won’t do them any good without food.

          • M.

            Actually, it will. When they breed more than they produce, the jobless will end up moving illegally to Europe. The surplus population always ends up elsewhere.

            Most of the European immigrants who moved to America did so because of poverty, conflicts, or persecution. Same with the Mexicans today.

            Beware of people in dire conditions, they’re the ones who spread their genes the most.

          • Peter Connor

            When food becomes scarcer, and it will, nobody will be letting new mouths cross their borders.

          • Peter Connor

            Or feeding them if they show up.

          • M.

            You mean scarcer in Western countries?

          • Peter Connor

            Yes,e.g. the UK imports half its food, and most countries in Europe can’t feed themselves. The topsoil and fresh water situation is deteriorating world wide.

      • Zimriel

        re, birthrates: you left out the *worst* parts of Islam which are the Horn of Africa, the Sahel and Pashtostan. They’re the future; and if you thought the Algerian civil war was bad. . .

        As for Israel’s military superiority, again, you’re just counting Arabs and their internationally-recognised nations at that. Start with the Iranians. If some Shia nutter figures out how to make nuclear fission work, off the bomb goes to Assad and thence to Hizb. As for Hizb, no, they are *not* a joke army; Israel now rates *them*, also, as stronger militarily than the other Arabs.

        • M.

          Iranians will never get the bomb. Neither Israel nor the West will allow that. Even Saudi Arabia will weigh in on that.

          Somalis are backward Africans who will just stay poor. And Afghans and Pakistanis are good U.S. allies.

          • M.Magog

            “Iranians will never get the bomb. Neither Israel nor the West will allow that. Even Saudi Arabia will weigh in on that.”

            This is wishful thinking to the extreme.

          • M.

            Why do you think these negociations have been going on with Iran for years now? And all the sanctions. That’s to keep it from making a bomb. And I’m pretty sure they’ll succede.

    • LHathaway

      lol, this is my favorite prediction. . .

    • M.Magog

      Mulsim women will not be driving,even in self driving cars. The law is that women are not allowed to travel on their own, unaccompanied by a male family member. It does not matter if they drive the car or if the car drives itself, they are still alone.

  • Medizin

    Sounds like John Derbyshire has given up on us. I have not.

    I see a planned overthrow of the Marxist regime replacing both Democrats and Republicans, or an unplanned civil war sparked by an incident, racial, economic, and/or political, or the civil war will be sparked by the planned overthrow. If a civil war, both blacks and Whites will finally have ‘had it,’ blacks with multiculturalism, and immigrants taking their jobs.

    While it might sound ‘crazy,’ I think many blacks would side with Whites even though Whites won’t welcome it. Generally, most blacks don’t run around claiming their intention is taking over the country, while Mexicans, Muslims, and possibly, Asians, do. (See Canada and the Chinese in Vancouver.) With all other non-Whites hating blacks, blacks have nowhere to go, but the White side. They need us.

    I think the changes will be successful and the U.S. will be rebuilt under traditional White rule. Many recent immigrants will return to their home countries. American blacks will not because to them, the U.S. is their home.

    Whites are stirring. They just need an activist leader.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Ann Coulter in 2016.

    • M.Magog

      The British are fatally flawed in a very peculiar way. They worship their theories and isms but fail to account for the GIGO reality. I think John forgot to factor in the collapse of the dollar and the collapse of the welfare state. He seems to think that somehow everything will keep chugging along just fine as taxes on whites, to pay for all of this, approach 100%, which they would have to. At some point, white people will logically conclude that they have nothing to lose by junking this whole system.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      They many not even need a leader. Some dynamic organizing principle may hold long enough to serve.

      We live in interesting times.

  • Jesse James

    Thanks John, that is an extremely depressing view of the future. So when I get a day pass to leave whatever retirement hell hole I end up in the robot car can just lock the doors and drive me directly to the re-education camp. Probably for the fifth time.

  • Dave West

    “Increased surveillance of underclass districts, perhaps employing drones.” This may happen 20 years into the future and I can already hear the whining by “people of color” and their pathetic white enablers. “How drones criminalize young black men.” “Drones, mass surveillance, and the legacy of white privilege.” “STUDY: people living in areas of mass surveillance 6 times as likely to drop out of school, disproportionately affects minorities.”

  • Peter Connor

    Why is my comment awaiting moderation?

    • Magician

      Did you try to include the address of a webpage in your post?

      • Peter Connor

        yep

        • Magician

          Then that is the reason. Posts with webpage addresses must be approved by the admin of this board first.

    • Dave West

      Did you insult the tribe?

  • JohnEngelman

    It is difficult for me to believe that it will be possible for liberals to continue to deny and suppress the scientific facts that substantiate hereditarianism and race realism for another twenty years. These will be twenty more years when the race gaps in test scores and academic performance will persist. These will be twenty more years of new findings about genetics.

    I think it is likely that in twenty years a DNA test will offer nearly as accurate a prediction of a child’s success in life as an IQ test. It will be easy to demonstrate that blacks tend to have fewer high IQ genes than whites, and more crime genes.

    The dogma that innate differences between individuals, and average differences between races do not exist, or are minor is as comparatively recent as the Second World War. After the Holocaust fewer people wanted to think that way. As the Nazi movement fades from living memory I think more people will be willing to accept the findings of genetics. This is particularly true, because those findings are obvious in everyday life.

    • WR_the_realist

      It has been nearly 20 years since The Bell Curve was published. This has not changed liberal views on race at all. No matter what science is discovered in the next 20 years liberals will not accept the reality of innate average racial differences.

      We both know that no matter how overwhelming the evidence for evolution the biblical literalists will still refuse to believe in it. That is because a deeply held religious belief overrides reason every time. For liberals the equality of races is a deeply held religious belief.

      • JohnEngelman

        Yours is a good argument. There will always be people who want to disagree with “The Bell Curve.” I predict that as the Nazi movement fades from living memory, and as evidence for “The Bell Curve” accumulates the number of these people will decline.

        • WR_the_realist

          I wish I could be confident about that. The Holodomor never even became a part of “living memory” in the U.S., and the Armenian genocide is hardly known. But the Evil Nazis? Hollywood won’t let go of that theme for 1000 years. I am confident that in 50 years the only fact of 20th century history that American school children be taught is that the Nazis Were the Worst Calamity Ever to Befall the Human Race and that fortunately Buchenwald was liberated by black soldiers. (I do regard the Nazis as a calamity, but just one of many in the 20th century alone.)

  • Peter Connor

    There will certainly be a financial collapse and/or hyperinflation on your scenario, John, because politicians will never give up their vote buying habits.

  • http://tmasierrahills.blogspot.com/ tma_sierrahills

    Setting aside the history of multiracial societies eventually splintering when not under the gun, and the question of how many more decades can nations like Brazil stagger along, and that the dollar is already artificially way high, and the further question of what is going to happen when the White middle class can no longer find jobs due to increased automation and ‘affirmative action,’ and thus will not be able afford to live in nice quiet clean green all-White neighborhoods and absentmindedly bow to their Multicultural Marxist overlords–to assume that the American Empire can infinitely redouble its population numbers, much less with an increasingly alien population that is inexorably dumbing-down the average, at the same time that the social welfare system infinitely grows, is to assume that wealth is infinite, wealth ultimately based on limited natural resources, a belief that has been the utopian sand castle that empires can’t seem to resist mentally moving into before they eventually become economic, social, cultural and genetic ruins, amusement parks for the surviving buzzards and cockroaches. However I believe that within 20 years we will at least begin to see the tipping point that will set off a nova-like White awakening of sanity, realism and pride. Almost every modern invention in the world is a gift from European peoples. We owe nothing more. That pounding sound you hear is Whites in the future nailing up great big signs on the Statue of Liberty, the London Bridge, the Eiffel Tower: ‘Thanks for the Lesson–Now Get Out!’

  • Reverend Bacon

    Sir-

    While I am an admirer of your work and was amused at this column, I disagree with some (not all) of your predictions.

    I foresee a rise in cheap labor created by the upcoming blanket amnesty and the ensuing policies of dysgenics that the new electorate will pass. That left half of the bell curve will be the left two-thirds or more; thus nominal labor rates will fall, greatly hurting investment in technologies that would shut up all those yammering, short-sighted morons who think a lower labor rate is a wonderful thing. Even if it’s subsidized by the working populace in the form of schools, prisons, health care, police, insurance, lowered property values, etc.

    The third world has an essentially infinite amount of excess population to export, and if we continue to be as stupid as you (and I) predict, we will happily gobble it up in the name of anti-racism. So it will be hard to get funding for projects like robotic maids, construction workers, etc. I think much that should be automated will be delayed because the apparent cost of labor will be so low.

    Our munificence toward the third world and their export of their population problems will help stave off the Malthusian crisis you predict; as will the billions poured into Africa in the next wave of stupidity and ecological irresponsibility by some guy who wants to make sure everyone in Botswana runs Windows. This next wave will bring new food technologies, including all sorts of stuff once referred to as “non-sustainable” until they realized that it was non-sustainable agriculture practices that allowed the world to gain 5 billion or so new (mostly left-tail type) people. Green isn’t compatible with Brown, so it will fall from favor, if it hasn’t already. But we might be able to “sustain” these non-sustainable practices for 20 years, especially if political correctness is sustained. Don’t get me wrong: I foresee a day of reckoning here too, but not in 20 years, probably.

    Last, I foresee this delicious irony: in their scramble to solve all the medical “problems” of the blacks and browns, liberals will be forced to fund genetic research. Even now, they realize that different races require different treatment modalities. It may be that the black subspecies doesn’t have higher rates of prematurity, e.g., but a different natural gestation period. But this funding will actually begin to burst the “100% social” bubble that you speak of. The speculations of the latter part of Nicholas Wade’s book will no longer be conjecture; and many of them will be proven true. The liberals will re-write the meaning of their pejorative terms like “racist,” to mean, “someone who uses their superior intellect for their own good, rather than to help the less intelligent races.” Remember Vonnegut’s story, “Harrison Bergeron?” Whites will be given handicaps at birth to avoid anyone gaining an advantage.

    I also don’t think that the EBT card can last until 2034, and deficit spending will start to cause massive hyperinflation and other problems. But maybe that’s par for the course of a third world nation like ours.

  • SoCal88

    Astute observations, as I have come to expect from Derb. I would add this: As a society comes to rely more and more on a fabric of mythology and outright lies, it will become increasingly divided along ideological, racial, ethnic, and religious lines. When you add total reliance on fragile technologies, you have a petrol-soaked house of cards just waiting for a match to set it off. This could come in many forms; a major earthquake in a population center such as LA; firearms confiscation; a major riot; a massive cyber attack or similar event that would leave the parts of the nation without law enforcement or a food supply. The US is not Japan. We do not have anything near the level of dedication to civility, respect for rule of law and each other, and to joining together for a common goal that would be required to survive such an event. Recall the horror that was New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina. I fear that such an event could quickly degenerate into dog-eat-dog.

  • SlizzardAjeosshi

    Just a note:

    Many of you have predicted an implosion of the US dollar, hyperinflaiton and a breakdown of Government services due to the enormous debt and even bigger off the books unfunded liabilities.

    That is indeed correct, there’s a good chance it might happen but also there’s a good chance we might be close to an economic golden age, which will NOT translate into a social, cultural or anything else golden age. How ? I think the point the Derb was trying to make is that we are getting very close to crack some disruptive technologies that could send productivity into outer space and pretty much repay the national debt and support more and more hordes of good for nothings.

    Vertical aquaponic farming, nuclear fusion, thorium/fluoride power plants, maglev mass transit, graphene-based batteries (which would probably be decisive in pushing finally solar to real grid neutrality and make electric cars viable). highly evolved A.I. robots, gene therapy, nano 3d printing, quantum computing etc. are just some of the new paradigms that could come online, if not in 20 years at least in 35-40.

    Sure we should contemplate the possibility of having hit a technological ceiling and the chance we will never bump into anything as disruptive as another Moore’s law, people like Peter Thiel seem to entertain this idea, but on the other hand we can’t write off the chance of a huge economic leap either.

    It doesn’t even matter much if it will be Asia or the West to sprint ahead initially as the catch up game has become easier and easier. Also probably even the constant dumbing down of the populace wouldn’t affect the ultra-tech sector that much as long as we still can find a relatively small group (the top 1%-2% of the bell curve) of very clever individuals.

    In such scenario i can easily see how Derbyshire envision a plebs-based society, supported by a universal dole, with pockets of financial, racial and intellectual elites scattered around.

    And in case you are wondering, NO i DO NOT think such outcome would be desirable, i just believe a complete divorce between culture/civilisation and economic/technological advancement is possible, even likely

  • Brian

    As a child, I dreamed the future would be like ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’. Instead, we’ll be lucky to get ‘Blade Runner’ or ‘Elysium’, which is pretty much what The Derb is describing. Give it a few thousand years and you have ‘The Time Machine’.

    Of course his scenario, while plausible, rests on the major assumption that the shrinking productive class and machines will able to produce enough bread and circuses to keep the Morlocks pacified. If not, the future will look more like ‘The Walking Dead’… collapse, war, possible toughening and renewal for the survivors.

    • MikeofAges

      Human civilization may have has rebooted at least once. I don’t discount the possibility, myself.

  • Earl Turner

    It doesn’t have to be this way. What it is going to take is white people putting aside our differences and establishing a homeland just for us.

    • JohnEngelman

      There will always be white people like me who appreciate people from other cultures. As a rule we are brighter, better educated, and more affluent than white Gentiles who dislike foreigners.

      • Martel

        Studies actually point out that there is a strong correlation between high education and preference for segregation. Its healthy and natural to dislike foreigners, its unnatural and odd to consider your own ethnic group inferior.

        • JohnEngelman

          If those studies existed I would know about them.

          • M.Magog

            no, you would brush them aside and pretend they don’t exist

          • JohnEngelman

            There is no correlation between high intelligence and a preference for segregation. Therefore the studies do not exist.

          • M.Magog

            so you have decided it is so, so therefore no studies exist.

          • Martel

            You only know a few studies which you repeat endlessly. You act as if you possess a wealth of information, which is absolutely not how anyone would define you.

          • JohnEngelman

            Actually, I know many studies which I quote here in order to document my arguments. Much of what I link to here consists of articles I have found here, and articles posted elsewhere of men who have spoken at American Renaissance conferences.

            You on the other hand are without knowledge and insight. Your opinions consist of attitudes which have usually been inspired by anger and hostility.

            This is true of my other detractors as well. They are incapable of a civil, learned discussion of controversial and important issues. They think they achieve something by lining up and throwing insults at me. Those insults are not rational arguments. They are exposures of vulgar and poorly endowed minds.

          • Martel

            I always see you post the exact same studies coupled with the same old arguments, re-written nearly verbatim from previous comments. I have yet to see anything new or interesting from you since i first started to notice your posts.You like to imagine my comments as being full of anger and hostility as in the majority of our debates you come up empty handed as soon as you are put on the spot. Surely, every time you walk away from a conversation you will think how mean I am, which is more comfortable then admitting to yourself that your worldview is completely detached from reality.

            You must be twice my age and this is all you have to offer. Sad isn’t it?

          • JohnEngelman

            When and how have I ever come up “empty handed” in a discussion with you?

          • Martel

            Nearly each time we had a serious debate. You tend to avoid certain questions, and when I press them you simply continue on your merry business. I’m not sure what you exactly do besides ”debating” on Amren, but positive it can wait a long time. The latter is based on my impressions of you, and the information you have given about yourself, obviously.

            Mr.Magog described you accurately in his recent answer to you.

          • JohnEngelman

            You just now avoided my question.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          Could you please tell me which studies you are referring to? I would appreciate getting links to articles covering those studies.

          • Martel

            Emerson & Sikkink 2006, Rice university, quoted in the first chapter of White Identity by Jared Taylor. There are many other studies with which you can counter the myth of a positive correlation between high education and preference for ethnic integration though. Take the recent study where professors rather engaged with a fictional student with a ”white-sounding” name then fictional students who had black or asian name.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Western Civilization was invented by Europeans and only works with the highly (highest) evolved European brain. Change the rules to egalitarianism and the European brain short circuits.

      • MikeofAges

        Declining elements of the upper middle class, John.

      • Usually Much Calmer

        To my earlier point: this post is unnecessarily self-righteous.

        Your views are not the only and perhaps not even the main reason you are unpopular with some.

  • http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/ Reuben H

    If racism will be considered a mental disease, then all of us here would be eligible for victim status; we would be “suffering from racism.”

    • Usually Much Calmer

      I suffer daily from what drives me to this site!

  • FozzieT

    Great article, and I agree with Mr. Derbyshire on all of his predictions. One additional aspect he did not address is the bloc voting patterns of ethnic groups, which could easily lead to an acceleration of the criminalization of dissenting thought.

    Blacks and, to a somewhat lesser extent, Mestizos vote for candidates who share their ethnicity and promise them special benefits. They care not a whit for the greater good of the country, only about what is in it for them. And sticking it to Whitey.

    So, by 2034, we could easily have a permanent congress filled with radical ethnic racialists, who have stacked the Supreme Court with Sonya Sotomayors and Michelle Obamas. I could easily see this kind of court finding some penumbra in the constitution prohibiting “offensive speech.” Just as I could see such a court upholding the constitutionality of Reparations payments, enfranchisement for felons (even those in prison), mandatory gay marriage in our churches, and a whole host of other issues.

    • SlizzardAjeosshi

      I agree with everything except the mandatory gay marriage prediction: i think that as soon as mestizo and black political dominance will be undisputed gay rights will be the first to go.

      Homosexuality will be downgraded again to some sort of yt perversion, i wish many white gays would wake up to the fact they’re been currently exploited as useful idiots

  • M.Magog

    Nothing to live for then

  • scutum

    I disagree with this assessment. It completely overlooks the pending economic collapse and the loss of reserve currency status for the dollar. The dollar has been able to maintain its reserve currency status in spite of the Federal Reserve’s abuse of that privilege because crude oil has been traded and denominated in dollars. This is about to end, China, Russia, Iran and the Saudi’s have, or are in the process of, making deals to sell petroleum in Yuan or other non-dollar currencies. This is the beginning of the end for the dollars reserve currency status. As flight from the dollar accelerates inflation will take off and goods and services, especially imported goods and services, will become prohibitively expensive. As the economy collapses internal strife will increase and as the freebies dry up, immigration will decrease. The outcome of this kind of strife never ends in the way that the elites of the various empires through out history have anticipated. It is entirely possible that we may end up with a white home land as the country breaks apart. NOTE: I consider John Derbyshire to be a member of the elites

  • Gus Baker

    This is why I won’t have kids. But honestly I doubt our economy will last that long, I know people make that kind of prediction all the time, but our dollar being the reserve currency is all that’s holding us up right now, if China or Russia (or both) find a new currency, we are toast.

  • Ringo Lennon

    It was a great country before the moonwalk.

    • M.Magog

      before the michael jackson moonwalk, right?

      • Ringo Lennon

        Yeah.

  • Ringo Lennon

    It was a great country before the moonwalk.

  • Ringo Lennon

    How come I can’t put a picture in an edit?

  • M.Magog

    John fails to account for the existence of Russia and China, that would be seeking to carve out spheres in the terminally ill USA. They will not let the situation go for another twenty years. They will try to carve out break away territories in what was one the USA. The USA can not just become weaker and sicker and spend everything on welfare and nothing on defense, and continue in that fashion for 20years.

    • pons_asinorum

      “nothing on defense”
      LOL

      • M.Magog

        Laugh if you will. Do you think we will be supporting hordes from the third world AND maintaining our military? Do you remember that we have already cut huge numbers of serving military under this president already? Do you remember that many weapon developments plans and contracts have been scrubbed? Do you realize this is just the beginning?

  • M.Magog

    I remember back in the late seventies they were telling us that by the year 2000 or so, everyone on earth would only have one square foot, or square yard of living space due to overpopulation.

  • Mary

    Interesting choice of term: “legacy whites”. I imagine that is supposed to imply that whites will be some relic from a bygone era that will somehow manage to limp along for awhile. Some anachronistic presence in the new and aggressively diverse America. That is at least what many predict or hope for, evidently.

  • MikeofAges

    The key concept is Calvinism. This is an early Protestant theological idea which holds that only a certain number or percentage of people are preselected to be part of the elect chosen for salvation. In the world, the elect are supposed to elect of society as well. This is a concept with a long history and much cultural influence.

    The unfortunately titled film “Hard Core” starring George C. Scott shows how this concept works out in the actual lives of individuals.

    Social Darwinism and Cultural Freudianism are later secular iterations of the same concept. Cultural Freudianism is my own term. I hope to popularize it.

  • JohnEngelman

    What is more important than obesity rates are average IQ’s and rates of crime and illegitimacy. White nationalists do not like to be reminded that Orientals have higher IQ averages than white Gentiles, and lower rates of crime and illegitimacy.

    Some people just cannot stand to be told the truth.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      Why do you repeat the same falsehoods over and over again? Northeast Asians do not have higher average IQ’s than whites. In fact, Northeast Asians have lower IQ’s than whites.

      • JohnEngelman

        Why do you deny the same truths?

        It gets tiresome to keep posting the same facts, but here I go again.

        In his book ” Intelligence and the Wealth and Poverty of Nations,” Professor Richard Lynn, who has spoken at American Renaissance conferences estimates that the five countries with the highest IQ averages are Oriental.

        Professor J. Philippe Rushton spoke at six American Renaissance conferences. This is what he wrote in his essay, “RACE, EVOLUTION, AND BEHAVIOR,” “Modern science shows a three-way pattern of race differences in both physical traits and behavior. On average, Orientals are slower to mature, less fertile, less sexually active, less aggressive, and have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole. Whites fall in the middle, but closer to Orientals than to Blacks.

        This is what Jared Taylor said in an interview: “Wherever
        you look, Asians outperform whites academically and financially…

        “we have a considerably less than one standard deviation difference between Asian IQ — North Asian IQ — and white IQ. I think that, too, is a result of genetics, and I think that that is what explains the dominance of Asians in certain
        fields, and their lower rates of illegitimacy compared to whites, their lower crime rates, their better achievement in school, their higher average incomes.”

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          With all due respect, Lynn’s research on Northeast Asian IQ
          is seriously methodologically flawed. J. Philippe Rushton simply regurgitates Lynn’s findings.

          In Group Differences in Intelligence (2000), the psychologist John Loehlin writes:

          There is some dispute as to whether Asian Americans obtain higher average scores on IQ tests than European Americans or score at about the same level. Richard Lynn has estimated that the IQs of Asians in their native countries average around 106 but that those of Asian Americans might be a little lower (Lynn, 1991). In contrast, James Flynn has argued that many studies that have compared the test scores of various Asian-American samples with U.S. norms have involved an artifact, namely, they have failed to allow for the prevailing upward creep of IQ test performance over time (the so-called “Flynn effect”; Flynn 1984, 1996). When the results from studies using just Asian-American samples were adjusted for this effect and combined with those from studies in which both groups were simultaneously measured on the same tests, Flynn found little overall IQ difference between European and Asian Americans – perhaps a couple of IQ points in favor of European Americans (Flynn, 1991).

          […]

          There is also a large difference in how effectively Asian
          Americans and European Americans convert their cognitive skills into professional and occupational achievement (Weyl, 1969). Flynn estimated that Asian Americans tend to achieve at a level characteristic of European Americans with IQs 10 to 20 points higher. This is partly because a greater proportion of Asian Americans who are qualified for higher education in fact undertake it and partly due to their being able to succeed at lower ability levels by working harder (Flynn, 1991).

          According to the Coleman Report (1966), Asian Americans (Chinese and Japanese) have lower IQ’s than white Americans. When the report’s final scores are converted to an IQ metric, the average scores for groups of differing ancestry are:

          European Americans: Verbal: 102 Nonverbal:
          102

          African Americans: Verbal: 85.5 Nonverbal: 85.9

          Asian Americans: Verbal: 98.2 Nonverbal:
          101.5

          Native Americans: Verbal: 88.9 Nonverbal: 95.0

          • JohnEngelman

            In the United States since the school year of 1986-87 the race gap between Asian and whites scores on the mathematics part of the SAT has increased. The race gap on reading has decreased. Keep in mind that for many of these Asians English is a second language. Also, “Asian” includes nationalities other than Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans.

            According to the OECD/PISA Study students in Korea and Japan outscore students in all white countries in mathematics and science. China, Taiwan, and Singapore are not listed.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Although measures of cognitive ability and educational achievement are strongly correlated, we must remember that educational achievement is also significantly affected by non-g factors. As a result, OECD/PISA and SAT scores should not be equated with actual IQ data.

            Even one of Richard Lynn’s own sources, Deary et al. (2007), suggests that caution should be exercised when using educational achievement as a proxy for innate general intelligence. These researchers write:

            There are various possible causes of the cognitive ability-educational achievement association. Bartels et al. (2002b) found a strong genetic correlation between cognitive ability (measured at 5, 7, 10, and 12 years) and educational achievement at age 12. In an overview, Petrill and Wilkerson (2000) concluded that genetics and shared and non-shared environmental factors all influence intelligence and education, with genetics being important in the correlation between them, and non-shared environment being important in discrepancies between intelligence and educational attainments.

            Whereas the correlations indicate that around 50% to 60% of the variance in GCSE [General Certificate of Secondary Education] examination points score can be statistically explained by the prior g [general intelligence] factor, by the same token a large proportion of the variance is not accounted for by g. Some of the remaining variance in GCSE scores will be measurement error, but some will be systematic. Thus, non-g factors have a substantial impact on educational attainment. These may include: school attendance and engagement; pupils’ personality traits, motivation and effort; the extent of parental support; and the provision of appropriate learning experiences, teaching quality, school ethos, and structure among other possible factors (Petrides, Chamorro-Premuzic, Frederickson, & Furnham, 2005; Strand, 2003).

          • JohnEngelman

            Anyone can find articles on the internet that confirm what one wants to believe. Every article posted on American Renaissance on the topic of racial differences in intelligence, and everything that has been written on the topic by those who have spoken at American Renaissance conferences confirms my belief that the Oriental race is more evolved than the Nordic race, and that this statement by Jared Taylor is true: “I think Asians are objectively superior to whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society.”

            It may also be true, as Jared Taylor claims, that most people prefer the company of those of their race and ethnicity. It may even be true that this is a genetic predisposition.

            It has never been true of me. I have always been fascinated by other cultures. I have always been attracted to what is exotic.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            So you dismiss out of hand evidence that contradicts your dogmatic belief in Northeast Asian supremacy? Unlike you, I once considered the possibility of higher Northeast Asian IQ. After careful examination of the data, I now see no credible evidence for it.

            If Northeast Asians were more evolved than whites, then they would be responsible for the vast majority of achievement in the sciences and technology. The modern world would be a Northeast Asian invention. However, this is not the case. In fact, it is whites who are responsible for the vast majority of achievement in the sciences and technology. Whites invented the modern world. The entire history of white scientific and technological invention proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that whites are more evolved than Northeast Asians. Whites are not only more creative than Northeast Asians, but also more intelligent. To say otherwise is to severely undermine the predictive validity of IQ.

            In addition, I am in much closer agreement with Jared Taylor than you are. I share most of his aims and aspirations. I only care about the survival of the white race and western civilization.

          • JohnEngelman

            I have already discussed how currently Orientals are more inventive than whites.

            I care about the survival of people who share my interests and values. They belong to every one of the three main races.

          • http://unityofnobility.com/2013/05/02/the-notorious-fox-banned-9-11-2001-footage/ Augur Mayson

            Jared Taylor defines Jews as being under that umbrella of “Who’s White?” So how close to his views could you possibly be, sir?

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Well, I certainly don’t believe that Jews are white. White = European. I meant that, unlike Rabbi Engelman who advocates white genocide and race replacement in some multicultural utopia, I share JT’s desire to preserve the white race from destruction and promote their racial interests.

          • http://unityofnobility.com/2013/05/02/the-notorious-fox-banned-9-11-2001-footage/ Augur Mayson

            Wouldn’t promoting their interests and preventing their destruction mean never saying Jews are white though? I mean if we are to formulate a defense, a reaction against this attack, we must identify its source. He actually acts to confuse people to make sure whites never improve their lot because they will never understand it’s due to an external attack, because he does all he can to shelter those doing the attacking.

          • SoulInvictus

            You’re a smart guy. And yet you still fall into this morass.
            Bothering to vent on him is like doing the naughty with a fat girl.
            At first you feel better, then you’re like, man…why did I even waste my energy on that. Ugh.;)

          • Grantland

            ..;/”that this statement by Jared Taylor is true: “I think Asians are objectively superior to whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society.” . ”

            No it is not true. The natural uncorrupted state (and State) of Whites is freedom and the rule of law.

            And the righteous morality optimal to the indoctrination of the sheeple that is natural to us Whites? .. Though many will fail in their morality:

            Their value systems are infinitely superior to those of Non-Whites.

            They believe in freedom, truth and justice. They do not fight wars amongst themselves.

            They do not have poverty. They do not commit murder [though they’d like to, occasionally] .

            They do not commit acts of cruelty, dishonour, or injustice, though sometimes they’d like to.

            They do not cheat, gossip, lie, steal, slander, rape, torture, assault or bear false witness.

            They do not abuse children. They are not cruel to animals. They do not pollute their environment.

            They are fair, open, generous, honourable, truthful and noble in every way.

  • Grantland

    ..and my aunt went to Ipswitch once. They make good scones.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Negroes were better behaved when around Whites back then, but not when amongst themselves. They knew better than to mess with Whites, because we gave them an a&s whipping, or a hanging from the old oak tree if they invited their sociopathy upon us.

  • American_cavalier

    The problem with John Derbyshire, is, as an Englishman seperated by an ocean and 10 generations removed from tyrant felling forebearers, he is completely unable to realize how violent Americans get over being pushed around by effeminated pc elite tyrants. My Texan Grandmother once said regarding memories of people discussing America losing WWII: “Nazis taking over America? Some would be under fuher coming to TyyyLER Texas and tellin us to line up with our shoes polished in a straight line and give allegience with political SLOGANS?!!!! Phewww! Well anyone thought that didnt know their A$! from a whole in the ground.” Apparentely, if Derbyshire is the rule in England, the genes that created an entire nation of people like my grandmother and our people, no longer exist in Britania even though that is where they came from. Robots running around doing things for PC mentally strackjacketed bootstrapped girly men trying to push us around. Yeah right. Flying Firing Squads and and Nightrides will happen long before that.

  • Demo P. Seal; PouponMarks

    One other possibility: America will divide similar to the Confederate States and the Union. A divorce under the conditions Derb prognosticates is the best outcome. Local control and non coercion.

    Back to you, Derb.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Multiple secessions, in my estimation: Jefferson County, CA–West Maryland–North Colorado–North Michigan (maybe North New Hampshire? There are a few Americans left in NH), Ocala County, FL–and on and on. The key is to make them happen simultaneously–present an array of targets to the grievance industry occupation government that is presently stinking up the place formerly known as the United States of America.

      • Demo P. Seal; PouponMarks

        We could start with a study of the Swiss cantonal system of greatest amount of autonomy and control locally. Only the necessary functions of delegated to the Federal level.

        Come to think of it, that’s how we started out. And here we are today, the results of ever increasing Central Planning and Cultural and Social Marxism and Social Fascism

        • AndrewInterrupted

          What a mess. Hoping for a meteor to save your country is no way to live. We were to trusting and honorable.

          Our domestic enemies have no honor. That’s how they reduced us: European-Americans “fight fair”, thieves and parasites don’t.

  • http://akarlin.com/ Anatoly Karlin

    Demography – I think it’s pretty obvious to all including professional demographers that the US will become browner and grayer, even if the implications of the former (the US’ Latin Americanization) is little realized or talked about.

    Ideology – Predicting this is exceedingly difficult, but I’m not actual sure I agree with Derb here. As genetics advances, it will become much more difficult to deny certain facts. After all, Europe was forced to eventually adapt the heliocentric model after Copernicus and Galileo, despite the political/social ramifications; is the modern West truly more close-minded and doctrinal than Europe 500 years ago? In fact a bestselling book by a certain former NYT journalist – a member of the “Cathedral” if there ever was one – has already foreshadowed this.

    Technology – Sounds about right. The real advances will be in the increased ubiquity and intelligence of computers, of which cars are but one facet. Eventually, I can see these developments starting to diminish the role of IQ. (Except for the elite caste charged with maintaining, improving, developing applications for them, etc).

    Politics – The demographics certainly suggest a prolonged Democratic dominance once Texas turns reliably blue (yes this will happen) in the 2020s. of course this assumes that there will not be a major political rearrangement/flip as has happened several times in US history.

    Nature – Chances of major natural disasters (on a civilization-changing scale) are all but negligible in the context of mere centuries. The big risks are 1) global warming – though I don’t see it becoming civilization-threatening within this century; and 2) madmade technogenic problems – e.g. bioengineered viruses, molecular nanoengineering, etc. But I am not qualified to opine with any authority on that.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      “..Eventually, I can see these developments starting to diminish the role of IQ…”

      I think he meant “…diminish the role of low IQ people presently pouring in…” The need is diverging with supply. Which could all be avoided if the government were not so hopelessly corrupt.

      The corporate farms that have overtaken the small farms could have been fully automated by now. GM had a fully automated factory in Detroit in the 1980s, the early 1980s. I walked through it.

  • JohnEngelman

    Scientific evidence that IQ tests accurately predict favorable outcomes in life will increase. So will evidence that IQ differ significantly between individuals, that IQ averages differ significantly between races, and that IQ is primarily determined genetically.

    I do not believe it will be possible to suppress this evidence forever.

  • SoulInvictus

    Well, having the almost the entire world set against you by international banking interests and an overseas powerhouse with untouched infrastructure as an enemy, might just be factors as well.

  • SoulInvictus

    Maybe, maybe not. MERS might mutate, or avian flu. But big rocks dropping and massive eruptions are a proven possibility. Ones that we’re wholly unprepared for. At least with diseases it is possible to quarantine cities.
    Can’t quarantine away dust clouds.

  • JohnEngelman

    History tells us, however, that ideology, which rests on the emotions, is far more potent than science, which rests on the intellect.

    – John Derbyshire, American Renaissance, June 9, 2014

    Ideologies are only effective as long as people want to believe them.

    I do not think that whites and Orientals will want to believe that they are responsible for black and Hispanic poverty, and that they should atone for their guilt by supporting affirmative action.

  • Jon

    Question is what is your idea of stable because that is right out of the Marxist handbook that a former KGB agent said is the final step in the take over of a nation. I do not believe in 20 yrs America will have the smart machines because we already should unless he thinks that Japan and China will come here and build them for us but that is the case then why not build them there. People come here to use our technology and once it is used up then everything becomes stagnant. This is a nightmare for the White Americans who built this nation.

  • maxonepercent

    So basically 20 years from now everything is going to be the same but only worse? Sorry, but I don’t buy it. Something has to give, we will either have another major war or some kind of massive internal crisis here the US that dramatically changes the landscape in some way. Just look back at the past 20 years, back in 1994 the US was literally on top of the world in every way imaginable, no one could have predicted the events of 9/11. Since that time our country has been in serious decline. The next 20 years are going to be make or break time for the US (I personally believe that we are going to break, but you never know, something positive could happen).

  • http://sanfernandocurt.com/ SanFernandoCurt

    “The Narrative” must carry its own weight. It has no recognizable logic or rational offer of reality. If we’re constantly told that an everyday street hassle and shooting of black by Hispanic is yet another example of violent white racism, we believe it only to extent the obvious hogwash is energetically repeated and “analyzed” against background of a long-ago past virtually all our moral crusaders weren’t around to experience and really know nothing about. This nonsense germ infecting our information industry slowly, incrementally has become obvious even to the most fattened and masturbation-dazed white gentile. If the Narrative has no credibility among its audiences targeted for guilt inculcation, this constant reiteration of ugly fairy tales will begin to provoke anger. What happens after that depends upon levels of stupification vs. rage among the white gentile population.