Posted on May 30, 2014

A Weekend of Fellowship, Part I

American Renaissance, May 30, 2014

Talks by John Derbyshire, Douglas Whitman, and Jack Donovan.

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  • DavidSNESGAMER

    Can’t wait to see Sam Dickson’s speech.

    • Capt. Bryant

      It was very inspirational I can tell you that! I was near the front row and was just in awe of the man and his words.

  • The Verdict of History

    The Derb!

    Thank you for this!

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I catch Radio Derb every Saturday morning–religiously.

      • Martel

        Does he take questions?
        I would be interested in learning who the most prominent/least controversial race realists in the PRC are.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I don’t believe he does. But, it’s a great show.

          • Martel

            I will try to send him an email about it. Proving the existence of mainstream Chinese race realism would provide us with even more ammo and we already have a great supply line while our opponents are desperately poking in the dark with their rusty bayonets.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Amen, brother. I’m already calling the new ethno-states in America: Affinity States. With Libs it’s all about semantics.

          • David Ashton

            Google Frank Dikotter on Oriental racism as well as Maoist sadism.

  • NorthernWind

    Dr. Whitman was very entertaining and informative. I really liked Mr. Donovan’s talk as well.

    I hope that I can attend in person sometime within the next few years.

    • Stan D Mute

      I thought Dr Whitman did a great job on what was obviously his first effort with that particular presentation and slide deck. It will only get better as he replays it in his mind and makes adjustments to his content and delivery. I know very well from experience, the first time with a new presentation is a learning experience for the presenter as much as or more than the audience.

  • JohnEngelman

    I would have asked Douglas Whitman why the immigration of modern humans about 60,000 years ago seems to have happened once and was not a continuous phenomenon.

    Also, did modern humans cross the Red Sea, or the Sinai Peninsula?

    My theory is that modern humans crossed the Sinai Peninsula during a period of unusual rainfall, when it was passable. Before or after the rainfall it would have been difficult to cross before water containers had been invented, That did not happen for many tens of thousands of years.

    The Sinai Peninsula is usually a very dry area.

    • Zimriel

      Actually they’re now saying it might have happened several times.

      First the gibbons, Orang Hutans and homo-erectus (each). Then the wave which brought the Neanderthals, Denisovans and possibly others to Eurasia. Then (we had a link here at AmRen about it) the first wave of modern(ish) humans: the Negritos and Aborigines, 130,000 BC. Then the most successful wave ~60000 BC.

      After that, there was some backwash between Yemen and Ethiopia, and Egypt and Sudan (albeit with the least effect in *Eurasia* – it had IMO more effect on northeast Africa, which sustained literate civilisations which the rest of Africa couldn’t, and can’t). Then the Zanji slave-trade.

      • LHathaway

        Overall, Nigeria still has a heartbeat. .

  • Truthseeker

    RAMZPAUL’s speech is the one I’m most looking forward to. They were all good, but that one was a classic. Jared Taylor’s was outstanding as well.

    • Stan D Mute

      Jared is a very talented and polished speaker – he always delivers. And Paul’s humor is used to great effect to drive home his points in an entertaining manner.

    • WR_the_realist

      RAMZPAUL’s web site is a national treasure.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    It’s hard to imagine a better primer on human population genetics than that 43-minute talk — with its wonderful illustrations, necessitating many pauses — by Professor Douglas Whitman. [There was no way to pause the lecture at the conference.]
    Glad AmRen got it up so quickly, without the usual long wait for the DVDs.
    I took him up on his offer of supplementary information/videos via email. Glad I did.

    • Martel

      It is hard to imagine a better primer on this subject indeed. Everyone should watch it, as everyone here understands allele frequency differences and genetic distance, but Whitman clarifies the taxonomy of subspecies to the point where I can no longer take serious those who do not accept the reality of species producing different subspecies. All the images and illustrations certainly helped me move on from the often repeated comparison with canines, as all humans certainly look more alike then different needs of dogs. Such comparisons lead to doubt in the minds of white nationalists and race realists about the strength of their arguments, this lecture provides an antidote and should be shared often, especially with those new to the subject.

      • David Ashton

        It “desperately” needs publication in a carefully revised and annotated booklet.

        • Stan D Mute

          Not just a booklet, but a short video designed for the purpose and edited to remove his occasional stumbles (not a criticism – it was his first run through a new presentation and he did a great job with it).

          • David Ashton

            Agreed – an AR project perhaps?

    • Romulus

      So did I.
      Pity that we didn’t get to communicate. I tried to meet as many as I could.

      • Capt. Bryant

        I’m one of your followers now. That sounds funny like your Jim Jones hahahahaha

        • AndrewInterrupted

          It’s red, white, and blue Kool-Aid.

          • Romulus

            Surely, you don’t believe that.
            I’m not selling anything .
            I only offer commentary, same as you!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Your Kool-Aid has patriotic electrolytes… <;-D

            Have you ever watched Idiocracy, by the way. You will pee yourself. They had to play it safe and make many of the characters white, but we know what the producers meant.
            .

          • Romulus

            Ha haha, yes,…. I geuss your right about that Drew. It’s hard to let go being a vet. The America in my heart and soul exists only as a beautiful memory or in very small pockets of our land.
            Wait to you hear the mush of crap coming out of everyone’s mouth tomorrow over in GAUL (My preferred description). Only as the cumulative mass of knowledge coalesces into wisdom in hindsight, do we realize what the actual legacy of the horrific slaughter last century has cost the Europeans and their descendants.
            It tears me up inside in such a way that words fail to convey the depth of sorrow I feel for all those lost souls. Even as we type , the govt is thinking strategies to engage Russia over the pipeline in Ukraine so Europe doesn’t freeze this winter.
            The instigators will culturally destroy Ukraine, just as they have here. Turn it into another jollywood cesspool. They’ll kill more of our children and our fabric kin simply to float the system as long as possible while implementing a top down police state to keep the peace while we slowly grind back down to a more manageable population level.
            It appears that this site is trying to emulate a more American thinker / establishment “right” format. Look for a slow build up of articles that might showcase the tribe, blacks, and homosexuals in a positive light. It is certainly a distinct possibility.
            I would prefer a more authentic mainstream indigenous European-American movement. If the new right is the same as the old left, then I cannot support it. Let the elites put it out as the public face, while true WN’s can strategize.
            Check out the new site that was offered up on TOO. The council of European Canadiens. Great mission statement!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I will check it out. France had to wake-up soon. Glad they did. Just hope they can keep the momentum going.

          • Romulus

            Btw, I’ve heard of the movie but haven’t seen it yet.
            Except for keeping up with the news or lampooning most of the garbage that’s offered for viewer consumption, I’ve since given up on TV.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Looks like you can rent it on u-tube for $2.99. It’s funny and prophetic at the same time–and, of course, quite depressing.

        • Romulus

          I’m no JIM Jones CAP.
          I don’t sell kool-aid ! Lol

          What I attempt to do in my commentary, is to show HOW media is used on us and the direction of trends in the macroperpective. Being able to connect the dots from all the media available to us, is key to understanding the interplay.

          What is permitted as news, the sidebars and feature stories of a Web news source, says every bit as much as what is OMITTED.

          These last three days I’ve spent reviewing material to offer a rebuttal of D. Ashton’s and Aussie thinker’s objections to my opposition to homosexual acceptance. I’ll make it available shortly. My latest on the subject were very angry and rightly so-in my estimation. I make no apologies for my stance against homosexuality. If that results in a loss of chatroom friends,well…., no matter. There is no argument that can be conceived by humans to sway my beliefs.

          Aside from that, I trust all is well with you.

          • Martel

            Unless you have “fighting homosexuality” ranked above “uniting Europeans” in terms of importance, I hope you will rethink the value of blasting those who are on your side. If we can’t discuss side-issues calmly, it shows us why the white nationalist movement is fragmented. I dislike it.

            My stance on homosexuality is, that its partially genetic and I don’t wish to force someone who by nature dislikes women to pretend to be straight.

            .I accept homosexuals if they exhibit sexual restraint and promote high birth rates amongst Europeans. Already techniques and tactics on how to promote the latter come to me when thinking about the possibility that I had turned out to be a homosexual. Their influence on women of our tribe would be quite high.

          • Romulus

            I consider saving Europeans and fighting deviants to be one and the same. Only as the recognition that the west is in serious decline and besieged by one of their oldest uber conservative enemies, do the homosexuals and other perverts suddenly choose to move to the right as their very lives may be in peril.
            This is of course due to the very people that are not only disproportionately queer but are also responsible for the mass Muslim/black invasion. Consider the bowl Dy*e prime minister of Iceland that has been instrumental in pouring Negroes and middle eastern trash into the country.
            You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people ALL of the time.

          • Martel

            Its not the same though. What matters is unity within the movement, attracting talent such as Donovan, and promoting ethnic rights for Europeans & higher birth rates. I understand your distaste for homosexuals, but its a secondary priority as long as they support high birthrates( therefore traditional marriage only) and are dedicated to our cause. A third demand I have is that they act like a man and expect to be treated as such. Donovan is hard to recognize as a homosexual which should be the norm.

          • Romulus

            I should have recognized it immediately. His Boy-girlfriend sitting next to him after his speech looked exactly like a shorter version of Antonio Banderas in the gay propaganda film Interview with the vampire.
            Now, when you say talent, Do you mean his books or his obvious description of the effects of material/consumer culture? I agree that we need unity and knowledgeable spokespeople, but IMO, we don’t need THAT kind. Why would it be necessary for homosexuals to promote traditional family when it is against the very core of their own interests?
            Then again, Jack is probably anti- Christian family considering his extensive body art,which included a tattoo of the word Satan on his right bicep. The word of course, originating from the Arabic, Shaitan. Which means the advocate or in the Christian churchs’ lexicon, means the enemies of Christ or church.

          • Martel

            When I say talent I mean his ability to convey his message. He is dressed well, and I have no issues with tattoos. I believe he is pro traditional family gathering from his writings. Homosexuals simply exist, should he be considered an outcast in the movement even though he does nothing wrong and a lot of things right?

            There is a reason he is the youngest of all speakers, that is because he is in fact talented and unlike many other white males doesn’t mind stepping up to the plate.

          • Romulus

            I know many excellent speakers, many of which would lay down their life for their people and what used to be their country. Many that have been pushed out of Americas service by the very peoplelike jack that are socially engineering our military, culture, and children.
            I intend to speak with several over the summer and see if I can persuade some of them to lend their talents to the cause, if they aren’t already.

            I believe that a male who uses certain body features in a fashion other than their evolutionary functions writing about the way of men and to be a complete fraud and hypocrite. I think about all the children who’s lives have been destroyed by perverted deviants, no matter homo or hetero. I think about the non stop filth being poured over our nations like evil tar from scum in jollywood making millions while they destroy my culture.
            Im reminded of greedy scum who capitalize on selling sex and 11 billion in porn every year while our families are in shambles and Americas traditions are fast being purged from the public sphere. I think about the same orcs who overwhelmingingly support promoting all manner of recreational drug use while generations of our children languish in addiction.

            Lastly, all the same purveyors of filth claim moral high ground and acceptance on the right only as a matter of their own welfare after ruining the west.
            That is all I will comment on for this evening.

          • David Ashton

            Await your material with interest and an open mind. If the facts change, I change my opinions, said Keynes (one of THEM, however).

  • dusa1957

    The corporate oligarchy that are the real rulers of the USA (and the rest of the Western World for that matter) have an agenda that is far more evil than merely converting everyone to having the same culture and outlook. What they ultimately want, to maximize their profits, is a one-world government with a one-world people, all under their control, with uniformly low labor costs. They want to dictate every minute detail of your life. It would be a lot easier to do that if, through the media they own, they can convince you to like it along the way.

    • Sick of it

      To dictate every detail of our lives would require them to get rid of money as we know it. To get rid of everything which allows for competition or individuality. See H.G. Wells ‘The New World Order’. When reading the book, one must realize that he is peddling propaganda in favor of the changes described within and that technology has changed a bit since then.

      • Romulus

        In an article i recently read ( phila inquirer, WSJ -sorry, i read at least 4 a day)
        The israelis are field testing such a program as we type. The elimination of paper money. It makes it easier for them to track every transaction. It would also makes it easier for people to steal money too.
        I think about these things whenever i have to put in my zip code while pumping gas or other such purchase.

    • dusa1957

      Not only will money as we know it be gone, but bank “bail-ins” will occur in the debt-ridden USA just as they have already occurred in Europe. By which I mean, your bank deposits will be confiscated and converted into bank shares. Think it can’t happen? Remember the 1930’s and the grandfather of socialism, FDR, confiscated private gold, then changed the dollar to gold peg, stealing huge amounts of private money overnight. There is no limit to what leftist radicals will do to keep their big-government agenda rolling along.

  • I would just like to thank American Renaissance for both holding the conference and allowing those of us who cannot go the chance to see the speeches that took place. I look forward to ‘part 2’.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      What is a Brit’s perspective on John Derbyshire and/or Radio Derb?

  • RealisticGuy

    “A weekend of fellowship”. First video, the married to an Asian woman, John Derbyshire.

    Some fellowship.

  • Romulus

    It is said by many internet sources that Mr. Donovan is gay. I wouldn’t know, even as I I attended the conference. By outward appearances, of course.
    His speech was well delivered and received. If he add’s perspective , I have no problem. If the WN leadership wishes to openly embrace and promote Homosexuality, however, then I have a BIG PROBLEM with it.

    I will not condone deviant sexual practices, no matter hetero or homo.

    • LACountyRedneck

      Thanks for pointing this out, Romulus. It was a good speech and I confirmed your comment on his sexual preferences. All I can say is wow. Now where do we draw the line on race realist speakers that we should support? My idea of a strong intelligent White man’s man is not a homosexual.

      • Romulus

        That is among many issues that I’m contemplating. I hate to see divisions within our people. Such as I’ve explained many times. I’m in full support of the Christians on that one, however, I wish the Christians would come to a consensus of ideology and science.

        Jack D. Is doing what many now find to be popular rhetoric, which is to blame “evil corporations”. Pppffffttt. Industrial capitalism is what supports the 7.4 billion people of earth and it’s accompanying infrastructure. It allows us to throw billions into watching and playing sport, our food delivery systems, power generation, water supply, air travel, hot water on demand, clothe billions, etc.
        What he’s really saying is that the system is losing it’s utility, bursting at the seams, exceeded carrying capacity and on and on.
        This why urban metro/suburban liberal trash is pouring into Americas pristine/red states. The system also needs new areas to capitalize to make the machine run. It is also why the govt wishes to force peace through law and agencies. Any disruptions to peace in America will destabilize our artificial living arrangements and all the activity this nation engaged in.

        For me and my view, I will not accept the elements of the left that I despise simply because they wish to run our way as a survival technique or because they think that embracing them is evolving. It isn’t. It has caused catastrophic harm to our society. Sure, he gave a speech, wow, gee……, don’t we have any straight people that are equally intelligent?

        I don’t agree with Americas consumption of porn either. I liked Americas old model of the nuclear/extended family. Were the sodomites to undergo intensive conversion therapy, then maybe. I doubt that will occur. I’ll listen to what he has to say but, again, I will not endorse homosexuality or other aberrations, customs or practices.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          I agree. His observations are accurate on the culture wrecking steamroller that is big business. If he is homosexual, though, he does not live traditional European morals in his personal life. Homosexuality is pathological sodomy, not an alternative lifestyle, as the Libtards want to insist. A true and strong White Identity includes strong morals. Marriage between and a man and a woman, and sex within marriage. All of this sexual deviance and promiscuity amongst Whites is simply the adoption of Negro sexual morality by Whites. Negroes have always been pathogical and deviant in their sexual behaviors. The media marketing Negro sexual behaviors to impressionable White youth is what created this disaster. If all of the Negroes had been returned to Africa during the Liberia Project, American Whites would never have adopted the sexual degeneracy and pathologies of the Negro.

          • David Ashton

            While agreeing with the general drift of your comment, I do not think it correct to suggest that homosexual “pathological sodomy” is “simply” part of “Negro sexual morality”. It has ancient roots in Europe, and accelerated in modern times by sexual deviants like Magnus Hirschfeld in Germany and NAMBLA in America, while African blacks generally regard same-gender “sex” as a white man’s disease and outlaw it in some of their own countries.

          • LACountyRedneck

            Homosexuality, beasteality, etc belongs in the closet. Not in the MS, not in prime time, not on MTV. Just because some people have a genetic or other defect doesn’t mean it’s ok to broadcast some guy on cable enjoying the company of a goat while others make sure we know why it’s perfectly acceptable and that NAMBLA members have the right to blah blah blah. I see no end to this behavior and things are well on their way to getting worse. People, especially young kids, are becoming desynthesized to this behavior. We need to go back to focusing on traditional family values. I’m concerned about some of the responses here.

          • David Ashton

            I don’t think we can police bedrooms or totally abolish prostitution.
            But I do believe we can and should curb the public promotion of paraphilias, especially those causing medical risks.
            Very little pornography is “free speech” and its corruption of children cannot be defended (even) by the principles of J. S. Mill.

    • Garrett Brown

      He is in fact homosexual. I don’t really care though, you nor anyone else should either.

      • Romulus

        Your barking up the wrong tree Garret.
        Are we so far gone, that we will embrace anyone With a microphone?

        Alright, I’ll tell you what. If the people running these organizations wish any and all to be the public face or mouthpiece to disseminate the message, that’s their business.

        I will do what I must at my level.

        • Garrett Brown

          Am I barking at the wrong tree? Don’t hurt me tough guy. I’m just a little doggy.

          • Romulus

            A figure of speech Garrett.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Sup, GB

        I think Jack Donovan’s proclivities are a little more complicated than that. He and Gavin McGinnes have an avant-garde style that appeals to many. McGinnes’ article on children of single Moms (over at TakiMag) had me laughing out loud this weekend. You can be critical of women while defending men and not be gay. Or you could be gay. Just don’t tell me about it.

        Even a person “Going Galt” could be wrongly accused of being gay. I personally don’t want to know what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom, provided there are no children involved and no one gets hurt. I’m a diehard constitutionalist in that way.

        Having said that, evolution teaches us that such sexual orientation mutations do exist in low frequencies. My concern is the prevalence is much higher than normal; presumably for a variety of reasons.

        You sound like a John Galt example. You’re careful, inquisitive, wary around women. You have good discipline–the courage to cut your losses when it ugs-out. Embrace it. Let it wash over you. The only way to reign in the feminist demon is with John Galt style discipline.

        The feminists carry considerable blame for the decline of western civilization. Showing me some leg won’t change that. As your testosterone ebbs it will be easier for you. That’s why women get men to sign the dotted line before 30—->they’re still stupid on testosterone. <;-D (Insert the cruder expression, if you must).

        Have you ever been over at KingOfThronesDOTcom? Those guys rock, too.

        • Martel

          Jack Donovan should take notes from McInnes though, as every younger white male should. Donovan is on the right track.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Fixed that whoops. I had King of Thrones. No clue.
            I have a 102 degree fever at the moment.

          • RonanTheLibtardian

            Did you survive?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, barely. What kind of jungle rot are these greaseritos bringing across the border?? Thought I was gonna die.

          • RonanTheLibtardian

            Hope it’s not Ebola…Although, catching some Ebola is probably better than living in Detroit.

          • Stan D Mute

            Donovan perhaps should take notes from McInnes. I don’t think it’s so helpful for every younger white male however.

            To me, McInnes appears a garden variety hipster who is self-promoting in what he thinks is an edgy, snarky, cynical, and satirical fashion. Part of his edginess is his political incorrectness, but it’s all intended to drum up business for his marketing/ad agency.

            Remember he comes from the crew that founded Vice together. He and Shane Smith and Suroosh Alvi began as “Voice of Montreal” which was government funded as a “community service.” His Wikipedia profile calls him, “the godfather of hipsterdom.”

            I think it would be far more helpful for young white men to spend a week on a logging crew or well drilling crew, a week touring the greatest accomplishments of Western Civilization (or just roaming The Henry Ford & Smithsonian museums), and a week split between Detroit and Haiti.

          • Martel

            The activities you propose have no link to the living environment of most middle-class whites, nor do such activities correspond well with their short attention span. There is certainly an audience for your approach, and it has benefits, but the main issue is that young whites should become attracted to this movement.

          • Stan D Mute

            McInnes doesn’t write for Vice – he’s out. And Vice is so ludicrously over-the-top Marxist PC they don’t even see the truth in their videos like the one they did on Liberia.

            So what young people are reading his pieces? TakiMag is preaching to the choir.

            I think perhaps the biggest part of our problem is the nanny coddled pansies most of our young men are trained to be. The few who aren’t must speak in code or risk social ostracism (and potentially the destruction of any hope for a career).

        • Garrett Brown

          Agree with everything you typed, strongly in fact. I believe in science, it’s what dictates my decision making and morals in life (for the most part). I agree VERY much with your comment about homosexuality and it always having a small prevalence in society. It is growing now because many men that claim they are gay, aren’t really gay. They just want the perks that comes with the title. I wonder what gay Romans, Greeks, Spartans, Carthagenians, would think of these girly little faggots we have today? What a disgrace they are to true gay MEN. Back then ,your sexual orientation did not matter, because people did not make such a big deal for it. What was wrong with don’t ask don’t tell? NOTHING. It had been around for CENTURIES, we just put a label on it. Don’t talk to me about what excites you sexually and I wont either, got it? Isn’t that incredibly easy? Do I condone the lifestyle and the higher statistics of AIDs and other diseases spreading in our country? No. But if a man loves a man or a woman loves a woman, that’s who they love. I’m not going to question that. If they aren’t out committing crimes and being menaces to society, I could care less what they do in their bedroom.

          Like everything they touch, feminists have ruined what worked for homosexuals and heterosexuals alike. And yes, you definitely have to be careful getting married this day and age, just be sure your fiance knows the true meaning of a marriage. And NO, SHE IS NOT GETTING ANY PRENUPS for my belongings!

          I have not, but I will check it out now, thanks for the link.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Hill-Billy Clinton, part deux will bury this country with respect to the feminist cancer.

          • Stan D Mute

            Do I condone the lifestyle and the higher statistics of AIDs and other diseases spreading in our country? Yes.

            I do not think that word (“condone”) means what you think it means. Unless of course I misread your context and you do in fact condone buggerers propagating infectious diseases that could migrate to the general population. Perhaps you should clarify this for us.

          • Garrett Brown

            Edit mistake. Re-read. It was originally no, I sometimes read my posts too much.

      • Stan D Mute

        He is in fact homosexual. I don’t really care though, you nor anyone else should either.

        If Donovan were merely practicing his buggery in the privacy of his own home and never acknowledged or advocated his perversions publicly, I’d still have a big problem with it just from the public health standpoint. Human anatomy is NOT designed to accommodate buggery. There is no evolutionary advantage conferred and thus natural selection has not equipped the human anus and rectum with the same biological protections the female reproductive anatomy possesses. The result then is that buggery presents a significant epidemiological challenge and that different modes of disease transmission allow buggerers to transmit disease to normal and otherwise healthy heterosexuals.

        Ignoring all moral issues, since when I was younger I’d often say, “I’m glad for gay men – the more of them there are, the more available women there are for me,” the biological scientific argument is enough for me to believe that buggerers ought to be quarantined allowing NO physical contact with normal heterosexual society. And yes, I include heterosexual sodomizing in the prohibition. We have thus far dodged a bullet with HIV/AIDS. A very small mutation in that virus, allowing transmission via other viral transmission vectors (think cold or flu virus) could virtually wipe out our entire species.

        The thought of a single white woman or child dying because some freak of nature couldn’t restrain his sexual impulses to natural and healthy activity, is abominable. And yet it’s a very real risk that is nonetheless promoted as normal to our youth by anti-white government every day.

        • Garrett Brown

          What if your wife offered some “buggery” on your birthday for one special night? You would surely endulge.

          • Stan D Mute

            No, I would not. The smell of feces does not arouse me.

          • Garrett Brown

            Enemas are something magical, I tell ya.

          • Stan D Mute

            Hepatitis? Not so much..

            I don’t mean to be insulting, but what’s so wrong with your mate’s vagina that you’d prefer a sewage orifice? And a more important question – did your interest in sodomy (I’m assuming it’s just heterosexual) start before or after you began using pornography? Are you one who believes our cultural decay has led to perversions like mating with Africans? Do you think sodomy is a better behavior than miscegenation? How about bestiality? Would mounting a sheep be good? Again, I’m not accusing, nor trying to insult, just asking to get a sense of where your moral and public health lines are drawn.

    • NorthernWind

      His homosexuality is hardly relevant as he never talks much about it and doesn’t make an issue out of it.

      • Romulus

        Yes, of course it is. Has America got brain damage or something else entirely.
        Are you not aware of the sewer of filth and decay that is the Jollywood propaganda machine and who runs it? Do you not know the homo Jew Brian singer is being sued for pedophilia with his other gay Jew buddies for grooming little boys at their South LA queer mansion for parts in movies?

        Do you believe that the church is more wrong than the stench of rot Coming from the left?
        Do you not know who has always run the porn industry and advocated for gays?

        What the hell is wrong with everyone! You would embrace the very elements that are destroying your people and nation because some queer gave a speech at a conference??!!!

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          You are right, Romulus, that the Libtards are at fault for enabling this garbage. The Jews involved, though, are secular Jews, who are suicidal Libtards just like the White Gentile Libtards. Orthodox and Hasidic Jews are last people who will approve of homosexuality, porn, or promiscuity. That scum bag porn star Ron Jeremy may be Jewish, yes, but he no more represents traditional Jewish culture than Ellen DeGeneres represents traditional Italian culture, or Eddie VanHalen represents Dutch Calvinist culture. Ron Jeremy and DeGeneres are Whites who represent the adoption of pathological Negro sexual deviance by Whites. Eddie VanHalen, while a talented guitarist, is a typical White rock star who has a sexual life typical of a Negro.

        • Aussie_Thinker

          I’ve enjoyed reading many of your posts on here, Romulus, but this one is incredibly beligirent while at the same time being void of any intellectual value. Its very unbecoming of you.

          What I don’t get is how one can readily accept science that shows race to exist, while refusing to accept science which shows that true homosexuality is an inborn condition. The absolute true nature of it is arguably still in question. If its genetic, let them be gay and they won’t be passing on genes to any kids.

          Otherwise, if it is practiced behind closed doors and does not hurt anyone, what is the harm? I don’t care that much if someone is gay, what I care about is how they shove it down people’s throats. Just the same as heterosexual erotic elements are.

          Honestly, the idea of homosexuality has been around for centuries, so to say it is new to traditional European culture is quite idiotic. You can’t base a movement around science and fact, as well as traditional culture, when you refuse to acknowledge certain aspects of them. You can’t believe in science and yet still think the Earth is the middle of the solar system, or indeed that it is flat.

          Rant over/

          • Stan D Mute

            if it is practiced behind closed doors and does not hurt anyone, what is the harm?

            But it DOES hurt people. SpecifIcally, those innocents who were given HIV infected blood via transfusion.

            Assuming as you say it is the result of a genetic mutation not favorable to survival, this also explains why human bodies have not developed any infectious disease protections such as we see in the female human reproductive organs. Sodomy is a public health risk independent of any moral concerns. Sodomites have already unleashed on the world a disease with potential to cause EXTINCTION of our species.

            How can you resolve the cognitive dissonance of loving and supporting your race of humanity yet turn a blind eye to a small population group carrying and wantonly transmitting a disease that could easily exterminate every innocent white woman and child on the planet?

          • Aussie_Thinker

            First of all, you’re entitled to your own opinion, and I respect that. But there is a point where fervor (religious or otherwise) overtakes logic.

            The HIV blood transfusions is solved be screening for it. You can’t say then that HIV positive heterosexual people aren’t a cause either. Both sides have the same issue with that.

            I didn’t say it WAS a genetic mutation, just saying IF it was. Given Syphilis can kill, which is largely passed through heterosexuals, your point about extinction is largely moot. Given that homosexuality is older than the first clinical observation of HIV, it is only logical that it is the increase on promiscuity and the practice of unsafe sex is the largest cause for the increase in HIV. Given that men generally have a higher sex drive, it is understandable why homosexual men would engage more often in sex. Promiscuity is a problem for all sexual preferences in this day and age.

            And your last paragraph is only just too ignorant to write a detailed response to. O will say, however,

          • Stan D Mute

            Do you not see that it’s all the same insofar as its corrosive and destructive effect on our race? You carve out syphilis in some kind of twisted defense of sodomites’ spread of HIV, but two young whites – a young man and woman – without the socially corrosive effects of the sex/mental illness lobby, have as much chance of contracting syphilis during courtship, mating, and reproduction as they have in being struck by lightning. Disease comes into this as nature’s punishment for behavior outside the boundaries of procreation. The promoters and defenders of sodomy are the same people promoting heterosexual promiscuity, pornography, and the rest of it. The zealots of that group promote pedophilia, bestiality, etc.

            I’m completely free of religion, but I still think we need a return to our traditional social mores as it turns out science proves their wisdom. It is not enough to have a white society and white population if we allow the degeneracy of African sexual mores.

          • Aussie_Thinker

            I agree with you on the traditional social mores. And you have largely agreed with what I have said, whether accidentally or not. It is all down to promiscuity and the sexual cult that permeates society today. Remove that, for ALL sexual preferences, and the problem with disease and the like is pretty well solved.

            I honestly cannot see the point in degrading and causing grief on homosexuals when the only issues that you have with them are their promiscuity (which is a major problem for heteros as well) and that they are not natural (which I await scientific evidence to make a solid opinion on). Once again, behind closed doors, who is hurt? You honestly cannot believe homosexuality has come about in the last half century. It has been with us for far longer, and no-one noticed much, because it WAS behind closed doors.

          • Aussie_Thinker

            My phone messed up the last of my reply so I’ll add it here.

            I would hardly say that they are wantonly transmitting HIV, given it is just as bad for them. Once again the problem here is promiscuity.

          • Stan D Mute

            Look up “bugchasing”.

          • Aussie_Thinker

            Just did. Seeing as its the first I’ve heard of it, and I have known some homosexuals, I would hardly think its a massive phenomenon. Even then, they are only transmitting it between other gays. Find a way to screen blood for HIV if there isn’t one already, problem solved on the donor front.

            You also seem to be missing female homosexuals. So at most, the gays you have issue with re:HIV are a minute sample of the greater population.

          • Stan D Mute

            No, the problem is NOT solved by screening blood supplies. The virus is still there amidst the population isn’t it? And do viruses not mutate? What is today blood borne may easily become tomorrow transmitted by a sneeze or cough. And by the time the mutation is discovered, it will be far far too late to prevent what may be an extinction level event.

            And if you’ve been following my remarks, I have issue with all dysgenic behavior.

          • Aussie_Thinker

            Oh wow. Honestly. You do understand how long it takes for something to evolve with nothing forcing it to, right? Look at other common illnesses. They evolve and mutate, but they still are largely, if not completely, transferred the same way. The only thing that changes is their drug resistance, which is a must if that virus is to survive.

            So we screen blood, and stop HIV positive people reproducing until we have a cure.p

          • David Ashton

            Some do – “bare-backing” like felching adds to the “thrill”. Messrs Mute and Romulus are mistaken only on one – nevertheless important – point, in my current opinion. The unnatural aspect of buggery has led to the use of aids, including drugs, and now increasingly widespread “chem-sex partying and clubbing”. Opposition to these developments, once kept quiet because they are so disgusting, are going to be politically protected by the term “homophobia” and the corruption of “gay money”.

          • Aussie_Thinker

            Yea, we’ve already covered that some do. And I made my point against it in a different reply.

            Your opinion is entirely up to you, hence its yours. I’m fine with it being your opinion. What I don’t understand is this constant assertation that homosexuals led the whole world on the path to promiscuity and sexual deviance. If anything, homosexuals merely came out of the closet BECAUSE of this new found ‘sexual liberation’ among heterosexuals.

            And if you’ve read my comments, I’ve stated that I don’t agree with homosexuality, but 1) the science on the matter is still largely debated, so saying its ‘wrong’ when people are possibly just born that way is a bit far. And 2) it was practiced behind closed doors for centuries, and harmed no-one. It was only the aforementioned ‘sexual liberation’ that brought it to the fore, and subsequently made it an easy out for blaming much of societies woes upon.

          • David Ashton

            There is not much difference between our viewpoints (see above). You are right about the sequence of “sexual liberation” events, and I don’t think just one particular group – gays, Jews, blacks or even Cultural Marxists – can be collectively and exclusively blamed for our current woes.

          • Aussie_Thinker

            OK yeah. I was just responding to your reply to me, which I was slightly confused as to what you were trying to say. But I read some of your other posts and we do seem to agree largely.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I agree with Romulus. We need to take a strong stance against sexual deviance. I also do not believe that homosexuality is genetic. Scratch the surface of a homosexual, and you will find a victim of sexual abuse. Rekindling White European culture includes rekindling sexual morality. Homosexuality is pathological deviance, just like Pedophilia, Beasteality, and Miscegenation.

          • Aussie_Thinker

            yYou can’t use what you believe to cloud scientific facts, otherwise we are no better than liberals. Given that the scientific evidence is arguably still yet to be conclusive, dismissing homosexuality so callously is foolish. I’m not promoting it, I don’t like it myself, but I’m not about to cause others grief because of it, especially since it has been around for a long time, just not openly.

            Its not like the race issue, where we were separate and now we’re not. Its more like Autism or the like. I wouldn’t impose unnecessary restrictions on them just because I don’t like them, but I would still advocate for a cure.

        • David Ashton

          It is quite possible completely and vigorously to oppose the promotion of degeneracy, the destruction of family life and western nationhood, without attacking every individual born “gay” or “black” or “Jewish”, especially if the individual concerned takes a contrary position in their public life.

      • Romulus

        If whites are only 9% of the global pop. And being mongrelized out of existence,
        How is embracing those that would engage in deviant sexual practices going to help our cause???????!!!! Shouldn’t we be trying to elevate traditional families and our religion, even if the Christians don’t always see eye to eye??
        Yes, if the catholic church will not support us, then let them be damned. There have been new versions before. That’s why there are so many denominations. Even the idiot neo-pagans are welcoming queers because the Christians ( except the episcopalians) don’t. Ancient paganism simply means polytheism not homosexuality.
        We need more of our own! Can’t you see that??!!

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Exactly. We White Nationalists should be focusing on secessionist movements, such as the excellent Western Maryland movement, and attracting a following. If we speak publicly of maintaining European culture and traditional Christian Morals, we have an excellent chance of gaining a following in areas that are ripe for secession, such as Central/Northern PA, Southeastern Ohio, or Northern Michigan. Such areas form huge blocks of red counties politically, with moral issues being front and center in these voting patterns. Strong opposition to gay marriage has been front and center in the political redness of these areas all along.

        • David Ashton

          We certainly need more of our own, with healthy white parents producing healthy white children, and raising them to respect our best western traditions. We have crossed swords about this before, but I think many male and female homosexuals are unfortunately born this the invert propensity, partly because of the accident of prenatal hormone dosage and sometimes a genetic factor. This condition itself is neither a sin nor an illness, but a reproductive dysfunction. The homo temperament is sometimes linked to theatrical gifts in men and educational achievements in women.

          The real problem lies in “gay” practices, advocacy, display and recruitment, and their indirect spin-offs in political leverage, pink-pound, entertainment mafia, effect on heterosexual love and propagation. Opposition to these do not necessarily compromise the contributions that some born-gays can give to our cause in every other salient respect, one notable exception being the opinion of Islamic societies that execute gays and lesbians.

          I think we should get on with our main task, bypassing rather than attacking those few homos friendly to our cause of racial survival.

          • Stan D Mute

            Speaking of their “practices” – and I won’t here since this is a family publication – do some light research on the topic. There is a fast growing trend called “bugchasing.” Look up “bugchasing” and let us know whether this group should be tolerated in our movement.

            Also think about how the pornographers are promoting male/female sodomy and white/African sex, both activities likely to bring disease into our race.

            You tell us you think sodomites have a “sexual dysfunction.” Isn’t it possible, and I’d argue demonstrably true, that this “sexual dysfunction” is tied to and inseparable from mental illness at the root of other common sodomite behaviors like pedophilia, extreme promiscuity, extreme self-medication, suicidal and anti-social ideation? Whatever “benefits” the sodomites might bring in terms of “art” are more than offset by the damage and risk they bring to our society and our very survival.

          • David Ashton

            Actually I agree with the general drift of your arguments, except to point out that there is reason to suppose that much homosexual propensity and also some mental illness have biological origins.

          • Stan D Mute

            How does that make them better? Negro behavior has biological origins. Am I to accept it for that reason?

          • David Ashton

            I have never said and do not think that “born” homosexuals are ipso facto “better” than heterosexuals like you and me. I have done enough research on the causation of homosexuality and on undesirable homosexual behaviors, from felching and barebacking to lavatory cruising and drug usage, thank you, Mr Mute.

          • Stan D Mute

            You rather widely missed the mark there.

            there is reason to suppose that much homosexual propensity and also some mental illness have biological origins

            I replied:

            How does that make them any better

            I thought it fairly clear that “them” referred to “homosexual propensity and mental illness” especially since I followed with an analogy to other biologically derived behaviors.

            However, since you chose to misinterpret my comment as an accusation of homophilia rather than questioning the relevance of whether sodomite behavior is learned or genetic in origin, my question remains unanswered. So I’ll ask again more clearly – how does it make sodomite behavior any more acceptable if it’s caused by genetic defect?

          • David Ashton

            I did not “choose” to misinterpret anything.
            And my answer remains the same: sodomite behavior is unacceptable even if caused by a genetic defect.
            Satisfied now?

      • LACountyRedneck

        It’s very relevant to many, even if he rarely talks about it. It’s not simply ok. We can provide much better examples at these conferences. Surely there are enough straight intelligent White race realists around that would and have done very well at these.

    • Rachel May

      Jack Donovan “Malebranche” (his real name) says he is homosexual in his book Androphilia. Androphilia is a sexual attraction by men for “manly” men as opposed to “sissy” type men. He has a long term queer partner named Lucio. I am appalled that he is speaking at some of these different conferences. Is this the level we have now reached? I have been verbally attacked for pointing this out and threatened for “spreading rumors” about a “man’s” man who is writing about manliness.

      To quote him from his book, “Androphilia – A Manifesto” in his own words. ( I have all of his books)

      “I spent a significant portion of my life traveling in gay circles, hanging out in gay bars and gossiping with queens. In the early 1990’s I was a go-go dancer in New York City’s club scene. I ran around in elaborate costumes and makeup. I’ve shaved my body, colored my hair, and pierced my eyebrow. I’ve been a fashion fag and an enthusiastic pop-culture addict. I’ve challenged gender constructs. I’ve done drag. I talked the talk and fagged out with the best of them. I’ve been to backrooms, leather clubs, bear bars, hipster hangouts and circuit parties. I even marched in a gay pride parade once.”

      “I became increasingly attracted to masculinity as an ideal”
      “Androphilia is an effort to reclaim this rich male heritage for men who love men.”

      Jack differentiates between “gay” and “homosexual.” Therefore he say’s “I am not gay.” Gay is effeminate and he no longer desires that type of lifestyle. He wants manly men.

      “I favor men, and I have chosen to live with and love another man.”
      “I appreciate strength, character and manliness in men, but I’ve also developed a sexualized fascination with these qualities, in addition to an attraction to physical aspects of maleness.”

      “I prefer sex with men.”

      “Despite my disdain for the modern Gay Party, I don’t mean to suggest that the Gay Rights Movement hasn’t accomplished anything of value or that it was not a successful tool in liberating same-sex inclined persons from real oppression.”

      “One of the main reasons I wrote this manifesto, perhaps the primary reason, is that I see so much squandered potential in homosexual males.
      “Androphiles have an uncommon opportunity for personal achievement. While I strongly advocate a sense of personal responsibility among them they’re likely to have fewer responsibilities than straight men who have families. They’re less tied down by financial and familial obligations, and the are freer to relocate and travel if they choose to do so. It is easier for homosexual men to devote time, resources and energy to achieving their goals. Whether the goal requires attending distant conferences, conducting research, running a business, heading an organization, learning a new skill, relocating for a better job opportunity, campaigning, practicing, competing or writing a book – men with out families simply have more time to follow their passion, whatever it might be. While other men struggle to keep food on the table or get new sneakers for Junior, androphiles can use their extra income to fund their endeavors. This is a significant advantage. Androphiles could become leaders of men in virtually any field with comparative ease. By holdng personal achievement in high esteem, androphiles could become more than men; they could become great men.”

      “One of the perks of being an androphile is having access to the private world of men. We have access to showers, saunas, locker rooms, bathrooms and the like. We are flies on the wall, seeing men in ways that straight men would love to see women. ”

      Are we to accept this cultural Marxism in our ranks? I don’t think so.

  • Garrett Brown

    You made it free this year??? Thanks so much Amren!!!

  • DaveMed

    I am grateful to AmRen for making these videos available for free (at least, for the time being), but I will feel obliged to buy them if they are offered for sale.

  • Laguna Beach Fogey

    Thanks for this. The Jack Donovan speech was particularly appreciated.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      That market has always been there. In the old days, White European young men learned the ways of chivalry, and were taught that the Negro male approach, where women are seen as a piece of meat, is the mentality of an inferior race.

  • Medizin

    Current corporate strategies are the result of multiculturalism as companies react to change and market conditions. If the U.S. would remain a White majority, their target would be Whites as in the past, the same strategy they use on mono-cultural China and Japan. Multiculturalism was not their idea, therefore, not the cause, but, they are promoting it by advertising, tailoring products and services to specific cultural preferences
    within a defined multi- racial/ethnic, geographical area (White countries), and defending their strategy in fear of being sued.

    Generally, none of this is done intentionally to destroy the White race. They do what they always have done…survive, beat previous year’s sales, and try to expand into other markets. Money is their conscience (although, some possessed a moral conscience at times during the 1900’s). If all non-Whites were deported, companies would once again target Whites. Having had a taste of using low wageworkers in foreign countries and with the blessings of the 1965 Immigration Law, companies demand it here, as well…the reason for so many non-White third-world immigrants, illegal’s, refugees, and asylum seekers. Not to say others are not promoting non-White foreigners for their own personal benefit, as well.

    What was Jack Donovan’s message? Multiculturalism is destroying diversity, as in mono-ethnic/racial cultures in all countries? He failed to address multiculturalism is only destroying White countries. There will be diversity in the world, but without the White European race.

    Then, companies are evil because they are surviving on multiculturalism and consumerism. Consumerism is the basis of our economy and was before multiculturalism. Companies and the U.S., in general, functioned well before the 1965 Immigration Law and globalism. It does not appear there was a need to regionalize as he suggests the country is too large, which would have been detrimental to economic and security interests of all Whites. Throwing multi-dissimilar races into a mono-racial population is a symptom of something much larger. Everything we see occurring is symptomatic of White European government and cultural displacement.

    The main failure is not multicultural company strategy, excessive consumerism, or multiculturalism, all symptoms of a destructive ideology…it stems from legislative failure to recognize the enemy many years ago and reject its influence that would destroy the White population. Mr. Donovan did not address that.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Multiculturalism, at least the American version, is cultural Genocide against White Culture and White Identity. Negro culture benefits the most, and gets extreme preferential treatment. AmerIndian culture, both Hispanic and North American, are also showered with preferential treatment. The Asian cultures do not benefit from American style Multiculturalism.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      The influence that has wrecked our White European culture is Negro culture. When Negro culture began to be marketed to White youth, beginning with Elvis Presley being marketed to White youth, that was where the problems began. That was what started the change in White thinking regarding the Negro, the shift from most Whites accurately viewing the Negro race as a morally and cognitively inferior race to most Whites admiring Negroes, seeing them falsely as our equals, and falsely believing that Whites were preventing them from equaling us as far as achievements, culture, and moral fortitude. The minute the first White kid wrote off the time honored wisdom of their parents regarding Rock N’ Roll being the work of the devil, that was the moment all of our present problems began. The old generations knew that Negro sociopathy was indeed satanic. They held Negro behavior in proper abhorrence.

      • Medizin

        The 1960’s were the years when things really began to change. The Civil Rights movement and 1965 Immigration Law.

        Blacks are problematic, but, not the ‘cause’ of White genocide. They appear to participate in it, though.

        Rock and Roll caught on with Whites in the mid-1950s primarily sung by White singers. They drew from country and western. Blacks from rhythm and blues.

        Folks in their mid-70’s and beyond, raised during the Big Band sound, claim Rock and Roll and Elvis Presley were filthy dirty. He sang many Gospel songs. I see nothing to suggest his music or Rock and Roll, in general, was filthy, immoral or violent. Let’s ask those over 75 to
        compare the words with rap. Nor do I think Whites bought into black culture during that time. They were still race-realists in the 50’s.

        I don’t know why White teenagers liked black singers at that time, other than some were very talented and they liked the Rock and Roll beat. Don’t think Rock and Roll was the work of the devil. Rap is.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Elvis’ introducing Negro music, awash in sexuality but musically rather vapid, does of course seem innocent compared to the Rap Crap. I absolutely abhor Rap. I think, though, that we, as race realists need to remember what was the genesis of the Negro influence on Whites. Rock n’ Roll encouraged White youth to want to fornicate. It didn’t encourage violence, like rap, but it did introduce White youth to Negro degeneracy, and encourage White youth to participate in Negro degeneracy.

          • dusa1957

            It started with Rock n’ Roll, but it’s much more than that. The mainstream media, including TV and movies, constantly encourages what was once only the culture of the ghetto Negro.

          • Medizin

            Did the post war cultural changes create Rock and Roll or did Rock and Roll cause the changes? Some think post war changes created an environment where Rock and Roll could be accepted. If the changes hadn’t been occurring, R&R never would have gotten off the ground.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Indeed. Mainstream media brought the Black ghetto to the masses.

        • dusa1957

          Whites sealed their own demise with the 1965 Immigration Act and the subsequent tolerance and then encouragement of illegal immigration. Whites could have stopped this self-suicide dead in it’s tracks even as late as the 1980’s but now it is far too late. There are enough mestizos in this country already, with their extremely high birthrate, to ensure that this country turns into a mestizo dominated 3rd world cesspool within a few more decades. The real turning point was the election of LBJ in 1964, if that had gone for Goldwater instead, there is a chance things could have been much better.

          • Medizin

            “Whites sealed their own demise with the 1965 Immigration Act”

            If you mean legislative Whites, you are correct. The majority of White Americans were against it. It was voted in by both sides anyway, just as is done today.

            Over a million coming here every year is recent, last 10-15 years, I believe. Chain migration is killing us.

          • dusa1957

            So why didn’t the majority of whites rise up, throw out the legislative Whites, and remove the Immigration Act before it could do it’s damage? Instead they let themselves be cowed by all the politically correct propaganda from the leftist media. That generation of whites let all future generations down.

          • Medizin

            “So why didn’t the majority of whites rise up, throw out the legislative Whites”

            Good question. Why aren’t they doing that now?

            They were told by Ted Kennedy the Act would not change demographics. Everything he said wouldn’t occur, did.

            I think Whites always need a strong leader to jolt them out of complacency. Many are by nature, trusting, gullible and naive, thinking the best of everyone rather than recognizing those working against them.

            But, from reading comments on other websites quite a few Whites are ready for someone to take the lead. Most people are followers, not leaders. Readers of pro-White websites and others not related are mostly followers. They will either wait until an activist takes the lead or resign to their fate.

            To me, it appears the state of affairs has to be intolerable before Whites wake up, before they would accept an activist leader.
            Perfect conditions for Hitler’s rise were post World War I and the 1929 Depression. Despite living in that environment, the German population did nothing until they had a strong leader. And, Hitler’s rise wasn’t overnight. Oh, and the leader has to look like one, be charismatic and a good speaker. As our presidents must look, act, and speak ‘presidential.’ Hitler practiced public speaking and underwent an image makeover.

            Generally, Whites complain but fail to help themselves in ways that might be beneficial by saying “That won’t work,” when they haven’t even tried. Also, they think certain activities are beneath them. Demonstrating in Washington, “We have had enough,” in unity, as a warning to legislators, appears to be one of them. Despite witnessing our government backing down at the Bundy Ranch, they think standing up to the current regime is not worth it. Most are in a chronic state of ‘pessimism’ of which nothing seems to encourage action.

            Some pro-Whites don’t recognize activities that might bring them closer to their goals even if those activities are not directly related to those goals.

            Many fail to see how lack of action today creates their future. They appear to live for today, “Hey, my life right now is OK, it could be much better, but…,” without seeing how their futures are shaped today. Conservatives following Fox News are unable to see reality, because reality isn’t presented.

            Sometimes, we fail and actually appear foolish quite a few times in life before we succeed. Whites don’t want to appear foolish, and hate criticism, but, they don’t know what works or doesn’t until they try. They also can learn by examining how other, even non-related, groups, domestic and foreign, made inroads and won. The Egyptians overthrew their government twice and won.

            In the meantime, we need an organization to defend our rights as well as many other issues. If we continue to allow the left to walk all over and murder us, we know the outcome when we are a minority. It will be too difficult to fight back with lower numbers, particularly, when non-Whites, who hate us, will be in charge.

      • Stan D Mute

        You give the negro FAR too much credit. Negro “music” is singing/chanting one or two lines at most accompanied by beating on logs and making odd grunts and whistles. What you’re calling “negro music” is negroes playing instruments invented by whites, mimicking melodies and rhythms written by whites, etc. The larger cultural decline was caused by the mental diseases of Marxism and universalism – the music you abhor was only the soundtrack of the times. Songs about sex and drugs predate the negro influence as many old “folk” songs promote drink and bawdiness.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          They indeed steal our stuff. Jazz was the creation of Italian musicians in New Orleans. Blacks tried to copy their creation. As far as rock, it is amazing what White musicians created when they started experimenting. Bands like Emerson, Lake and Palmer, and Deep Purple made rock into real music.

          • M.Magog

            Jazz to me sounds remarkable similar to Klezmer music. Klezmer is also noted for the liberal use of improvisation. I would say that Jazz is a black attempt to copy Klezmer music.

          • M.Magog

            “As far as rock, it is amazing what White musicians created when they started experimenting.”.. Yes, this is very true. There was a program on PBS that played to the narcissism of blacks regarding their influence on “rock and roll”. The program made the claim that whites started covering the black music and all those black artists lost as a result. One example given was “Tuesday Afternoon” by the Moody Blues. The original, black, version sounded like everything else that blacks had been creating, the same musical motifs, beats, background music, the same style of vocalizations. The “white” version sounded NOTHING like the original “black” version. I think just the words were the same, the melody may have had some similarities but really, the result that the moody blues gave us was totally different and far superior. For a very short while the “black” sound was new, and was popular, but like everything, it got cliche and old. People were tired of it. One can only take so much of anything before they start wanting something else.Whites transformed “rock” in a way that blacks never could have conceived of doing.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Amazing!! Wish I could have been there. Jack Donovan hit the nail squarely on the head. Globalism is the crude greed of big business, which is focused on making as much money as possible. The distinctiveness of true culture gets in the way of their profits, so the greedy business elites crudely steamroll culture and tradition.

    • David Ashton

      The media fawning is morally far worse than black efforts to produce music (some have excellent voices and “a sense of rhythm”, and can sway, jump and wriggle “better” than others). The excessive way in which our left-wing “intellectual” weekend magazines in Britain fawn on ex-gangsta niggaz, black “stars” and “moddles”, &c is almost beyond belief, and clearly indicates an obsessively persistent sociopolitical purpose.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I wouldn’t call the sexually charged gyrations that Negroes enjoy engaging in, with response to pounding Neanderthal rhythms, talent. What they like to try to pass off as dancing ability is nothing but the physical manifestation of their shameless lack of sexual restraint. Real talent is what one witnesses at the Ballet, and few Negroes manage to compete in this sphere. As far as their singing, their loud braying is, to me, a veritable assault on eardrums accustomed to true vocal abilities. Few Negroes manage to compete in the polished world of opera. Few Negroes have vocal abilities on par with Placido Domingo, Andrea Bocelli, or even Josh Groban. The more talented Black singers have managed to compete with Whites in crooning, but that seems to represent the zenith of their abilities. Nat King Cole was comparable to Dean Martin in ability, but Dean Martin could never have had a singing career in Opera. As far as the typical braying gospel or pop singer, I find this stuff to be an assault on the eardrums. A great singer sings with both power and beauty. Few Blacks are capable of singing with both.

        • David Ashton

          I say “some”. You say “a few”.

          Classical ballet and opera mean a great deal to me. Jungle jigging does not, and I have attacked here and elsewhere the adverse impact of rap and crap on the mores of white youth.

  • William Allingham

    I think its most important to notice that the problem with globalism is not so much standardization and the lose of diversity because anyway a tribe is united by more or less equal ways, similar believes, standardized rules etc. the real problem with globalism is that it will deteriorate the quality, lower the standards and conform to less advanced cultures also it will eventually shut the door for any progress or meaning in life beyond survival (progress was a white mans achievement).

    it would be less a tragedy to blend them if all cultures and people were beautiful, valuable or desirable (I find no value or beauty in a culture that mutilates womens genitals or which has never invented something)

    also there’s no doubt of the conspiratorial powers of the elites, we have plenty of proof that whenever they wanted an ideology that nobody at first desired or understand, they pushed for it, or whenever they wanted a king dethroned or a damaging policy to be implemented they organized to get their way, often at the expense of people. you dont have to be a marxist to agree when he said that people (elites) are more loyal to their class (money) than to their nation (or race)

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Very well said William. The dominance of inferior Negro music on the radiowaves, a subject I enjoy contemplating on AmRen, is a good example of this. We live in a world where braying and minimally talented Beyonce is far more well known and financially wealthy than her musical superiors. The arrogance and lack of inhibition of Negroes is granted undeserved fame and fortune, while immensely talented Whites many gain small followings. A few years ago, I remember a beautiful blonde girl named Charlotte Church, who had a voice like an angel. She was known among fans of classical and opera, but should have become immensely popular. In the old days, She would have, like the late great Swedish Soprano Jenny Lind.

      • dusa1957

        I agree Charlotte Church had a beautiful voice and her songs were classically beautiful and elegant. But just one little correction to your description. She was not “blonde”, there is a difference between a blonde and a brown-haired woman who dyes her hair blonde. If you can’t tell any other way, look at the eyebrows.

      • Andrew

        There was a time in the not too distant past that blacks made some of the most beautiful music in the jazz, popular and classical genre’s. They were all set to become real contributors to culture at all levels, and then the 60’s happened and it’s been a race to the bottom ever since. They won, incidentally.

    • dusa1957

      All true, globalization means a rapid plunge to the lowest common denominator. The only way the lowest race (Negroes) can keep up is for all the other races to descend to their standards in culture, education, etc. This is exactly what the mainstream leftist media pushes.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Let’s get Marine La Pen on the guest speaker list next year.

  • Andrew

    There was a time in the not too distant past that blacks made some of the most beautiful music in the jazz and popular styles and were even inching in to the classical genre. They were all set to become consistent and formidable contributors to culture at all levels, and then the 60’s happened and it’s been a race to the bottom ever since. They won that one, incidentally.

    • dusa1957

      Negroes have never made “beautiful” music, they’ve only made vulgar and repetitious crap, even before the 60’s. For truly beautiful music, look to the white masters such as Beethoven or Mozart. Similarly, for truly beautiful majestic art, nothing can beat Rembrandt.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I agree. Their music has always been garbage. In Africa, they love repetitious drumming. No melody, just a repetitious, pounding beat.

        • Monmouth78

          Nonsense. This is the kind of embarrassing stuff that makes it hard for ordinary white people to take this “movement” seriously.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    This is conspiracy theory. Neither Negroes nor the AmerIndian/Mestizo Hispanics coming out of South America engage in degeneracy because some White Leftist has persuaded them to do so. They are no White Leftists living in most Black neighborhoods, and no White Leftists living in Mexican provinces run by drug lords. When you go blaming the behaviors of these non-White groups on White Libtards, you are excusing the behaviors of these non-White groups. That is just stupid. Neither group gives a rat’s a&s what some White Leftist has to say. The hand-outs and softness on crime Lefties authorize encourage the degeneracy of these non-Caucasian groups, that is true, but does not cause the problem. The root of the problem is the racial inferiority of these groups. Compared to Whites, their temperaments are sociopathic and defective. This is especially true of Negroes. As such, the only answer to the problem is segregation. Thanks to the Leftists, secession of White territories is the only way we can properly segregate at this point. The Western Maryland secession movement is excellent. More such movements need to occur.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Eddie Van Halen is not a Pacific Islander. He is pure Dutch descent, parents came to America from Holland. The best rock guitarist, I would say, is Yngwie Malmsteen. He is a Swede.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I stand corrected. He had chinky eyes in his younger days. I bet he has some Dutch Indonesian blood.

      Yeah, Malsteem is good. He’s just one long guitar solo, though. He needs to expand and work dynamics.

      The Joe Bonamassa category is Blues Rock. Those guys are Rock.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Are you sure you are not confusing Eddie VH with Kirk Hammett of Metallica? Hammett is Filipino, definitely has that Polynesian Asiatic look. The notion that Malmsteen is all speed is a misconception many hold who have not heard a thorough cross section of his music. If you haven’t heard the song “Forever One”, YouTube this one and give it a listen. Also, check out “Blue”, and “Brothers”. Being a Bonamassa fan, I suspect that you will like what you hear!!

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I still bet Eddie Van Halen has some Dutch Indonesian. I encountered that mystery meat variant at a federal contractor. They are treated like diversity royalty because Pacific Islanders are so rare in Massachusetts. They have the run of the place. A job for life.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    We don’t have definitive proof of this. Libtards love to spread these types of lies about our forebears, to weaken our pride in our race and culture. Libtards do this because they are self hating. Even if this was true, the key point is that it was wrong. Ancient Greece was a long time ago. If this was true, Greeks went on to learn from these mistakes. To return to such pathological sodomy is regression, not progress.

  • dusa1957

    I disagree. There are no exceptions to the rule, although Nat King Cole came close.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      I’m with you. Nat King Cole was at least on the level of Dean Martin and Sinatra.

  • Stan D Mute

    I’m opposed to sodomites and couldn’t give a rip about religion so there goes that aspect of your theory. Unlike some others, I do think the sodomites may be genetic defects and further that this only gives me more reason to want them on a modern day leper colony alongside the pedophiles (largely the same group anyway) and other incurable defectives with a corrosive effect. I don’t care if your brother is a buggerer and you’ll miss him terribly. Use FaceTime to visit. He needs to be safely away from children and from anyone he can infect with his diseases.

  • Stan D Mute

    And the ultimate goal of those forces is nothing less than complete destruction of western civilization and the genome that created it. Accepting their sexual mores, or lack thereof, is no different at all from accepting the mores of the African. Right alongside the homosexual sodomites is heterosexual sodomy, bestiality, pedophilia, necrophilia, and the rest of the mentally diseased lot. “It’s all good, it’s all just a matter of personal choice and freedom, nobody is hurt” they proclaim. Tell that to the small boy sexually molested by his uncle or the woman infected with HIV or hepatitis by her mate who practices sodomy on the side. All of it is corrosive to the one and only thing we must do to survive – producing and protecting white children.

    • David Ashton

      I agree that the first priority is the reproduction, protection and education of white children. Heterosexual promiscuity and STDs can be damaging to the family values required. The elevation of the “gay lifestyle” and “pink mafia” (as I have said before) to social and political influence is quite damaging. The spread of HIV from the LA buggery warrens seems likely historically. Also, the arguments against “Christian homosexuality” from Robert Gagnon and Stephen Green seem to me pretty conclusive, though I do not share their faith.

      This does not alter the evidence that much same-gender attraction is biological in origin, though its adverse practices and harmful outcomes need to be curbed. But is it also necessary to persecute inverts who do no public harm, or to discount the useful arguments on related issues from gays like David Starkey or Bruce Bawer?

      Would it be desirable, for example, to ban the plays of Oscar Wilde and Noel Coward, the novels of Virginia Woolf and Somerset Maugham, the artwork of Leonardo and Caravaggio, the music of Tchaikovsky and Britten, the philosophy of Bacon and Wittgenstein, the poetry of Whitman and Housman, &c.?

  • Jim

    Really enjoyed Jack Donovan’s presentation. He may not have his delivery down like Mr. Derbyshire, but he has real insight into the mentality/psychology of cultural decline. Interestingly, he seemed more at ease during his unscripted responses to questions.

    Derb was fantastic.

  • TheHand

    Really enjoyed all three talks. Thank you Amren for making available.
    Mr. Derbyshire & Whitman have given me a few books to add to the reading list.
    I found Professor Whitman’s presentation exceptionally interesting & informative.
    Happy to buy the full set when available.

  • Alex Dihes

    Derbyshire is waste of time. In Russia we call such creature verbal diarrhea.

  • Alex Dihes

    So far after Talks by John Derbyshire, Douglas Whitman, and Jack Donovan the speakers are pouring the PC water in my ears.
    The three are cowards.

    • Martel

      No they are not. Why aren’t you up there?
      You either lack the talent or you have no intention of doing anything worthwhile in the movement yourself. There is nothing “PC” about any of them, simply because you disagree with them doesn’t mean they are politically correct.

      • Alex Dihes

        I just have no money to be there. I really would like to give them a Russian lesson how to fight using the mighty weapon – money!