The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

Robert Rector and Jason Richwine, The Heritage Foundation, May 6, 2013

Executive Summary

Unlawful immigration and amnesty for current unlawful immigrants can pose large fiscal costs for U.S. taxpayers. Government provides four types of benefits and services that are relevant to this issue:

  • Direct benefits. These include Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, and workers’ compensation.
  • Means-tested welfare benefits. There are over 80 of these programs which, at a cost of nearly $900 billion per year, provide cash, food, housing, medical, and other services to roughly 100 million low-income Americans. Major programs include Medicaid, food stamps, the refundable Earned Income Tax Credit, public housing, Supplemental Security Income, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.
  • Public education. At a cost of $12,300 per pupil per year, these services are largely free or heavily subsidized for low-income parents.
  • Population-based services. Police, fire, highways, parks, and similar services, as the National Academy of Sciences determined in its study of the fiscal costs of immigration, generally have to expand as new immigrants enter a community; someone has to bear the cost of that expansion.

The cost of these governmental services is far larger than many people imagine. For example, in 2010, the average U.S. household received $31,584 in government benefits and services in these four categories.

The governmental system is highly redistributive. Well-educated households tend to be net tax contributors: The taxes they pay exceed the direct and means-tested benefits, education, and population-based services they receive. For example, in 2010, in the whole U.S. population, households with college-educated heads, on average, received $24,839 in government benefits while paying $54,089 in taxes. The average college-educated household thus generated a fiscal surplus of $29,250 that government used to finance benefits for other households.

Other households are net tax consumers: The benefits they receive exceed the taxes they pay. These households generate a “fiscal deficit” that must be financed by taxes from other households or by government borrowing. For example, in 2010, in the U.S. population as a whole, households headed by persons without a high school degree, on average, received $46,582 in government benefits while paying only $11,469 in taxes. This generated an average fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of $35,113.

The high deficits of poorly educated households are important in the amnesty debate because the typical unlawful immigrant has only a 10th-grade education. Half of unlawful immigrant households are headed by an individual with less than a high school degree, and another 25 percent of household heads have only a high school degree.

Some argue that the deficit figures for poorly educated households in the general population are not relevant for immigrants. Many believe, for example, that lawful immigrants use little welfare. In reality, lawful immigrant households receive significantly more welfare, on average, than U.S.-born households. Overall, the fiscal deficits or surpluses for lawful immigrant households are the same as or higher than those for U.S.-born households with the same education level. Poorly educated households, whether immigrant or U.S.-born, receive far more in government benefits than they pay in taxes.

In contrast to lawful immigrants, unlawful immigrants at present do not have access to means-tested welfare, Social Security, or Medicare. This does not mean, however, that they do not receive government benefits and services. Children in unlawful immigrant households receive heavily subsidized public education. Many unlawful immigrants have U.S.-born children; these children are currently eligible for the full range of government welfare and medical benefits. And, of course, when unlawful immigrants live in a community, they use roads, parks, sewers, police, and fire protection; these services must expand to cover the added population or there will be “congestion” effects that lead to a decline in service quality.

In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.

If enacted, amnesty would be implemented in phases. During the first or interim phase (which is likely to last 13 years), unlawful immigrants would be given lawful status but would be denied access to means-tested welfare and Obamacare. Most analysts assume that roughly half of unlawful immigrants work “off the books” and therefore do not pay income or FICA taxes. During the interim phase, these “off the books” workers would have a strong incentive to move to “on the books” employment. In addition, their wages would likely go up as they sought jobs in a more open environment. As a result, during the interim period, tax payments would rise and the average fiscal deficit among former unlawful immigrant households would fall.

After 13 years, unlawful immigrants would become eligible for means-tested welfare and Obamacare. At that point or shortly thereafter, former unlawful immigrant households would likely begin to receive government benefits at the same rate as lawful immigrant households of the same education level. As a result, government spending and fiscal deficits would increase dramatically.

The final phase of amnesty is retirement. Unlawful immigrants are not currently eligible for Social Security and Medicare, but under amnesty they would become so. The cost of this change would be very large indeed.

  • As noted, at the current time (before amnesty), the average unlawful immigrant household has a net deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of $14,387 per household.
  • During the interim phase immediately after amnesty, tax payments would increase more than government benefits, and the average fiscal deficit for former unlawful immigrant households would fall to $11,455.
  • At the end of the interim period, unlawful immigrants would become eligible for means-tested welfare and medical subsidies under Obamacare. Average benefits would rise to $43,900 per household; tax payments would remain around $16,000; the average fiscal deficit (benefits minus taxes) would be about $28,000 per household.
  • Amnesty would also raise retirement costs by making unlawful immigrants eligible for Social Security and Medicare, resulting in a net fiscal deficit of around $22,700 per retired amnesty recipient per year.

In terms of public policy and government deficits, an important figure is the aggregate annual deficit for all unlawful immigrant households. This equals the total benefits and services received by all unlawful immigrant households minus the total taxes paid by those households.

  • Under current law, all unlawful immigrant households together have an aggregate annual deficit of around $54.5 billion.
  • In the interim phase (roughly the first 13 years after amnesty), the aggregate annual deficit would fall to $43.4 billion.
  • At the end of the interim phase, former unlawful immigrant households would become fully eligible for means-tested welfare and health care benefits under the Affordable Care Act. The aggregate annual deficit would soar to around $106 billion.
  • In the retirement phase, the annual aggregate deficit would be around $160 billion. It would slowly decline as former unlawful immigrants gradually expire.

These costs would have to be borne by already overburdened U.S. taxpayers. (All figures are in 2010 dollars.)

The typical unlawful immigrant is 34 years old. After amnesty, this individual will receive government benefits, on average, for 50 years. Restricting access to benefits for the first 13 years after amnesty therefore has only a marginal impact on long-term costs.

If amnesty is enacted, the average adult unlawful immigrant would receive $592,000 more in government benefits over the course of his remaining lifetime than he would pay in taxes.

Over a lifetime, the former unlawful immigrants together would receive $9.4 trillion in government benefits and services and pay $3.1 trillion in taxes. They would generate a lifetime fiscal deficit (total benefits minus total taxes) of $6.3 trillion. (All figures are in constant 2010 dollars.) This should be considered a minimum estimate. It probably understates real future costs because it undercounts the number of unlawful immigrants and dependents who will actually receive amnesty and underestimates significantly the future growth in welfare and medical benefits.

The debate about the fiscal consequences of unlawful and low-skill immigration is hampered by a number of misconceptions. Few lawmakers really understand the current size of government and the scope of redistribution. The fact that the average household gets $31,600 in government benefits each year is a shock. The fact that a household headed by an individual with less than a high school degree gets $46,600 is a bigger one.

Many conservatives believe that if an individual has a job and works hard, he will inevitably be a net tax contributor (paying more in taxes than he takes in benefits). In our society, this has not been true for a very long time. Similarly, many believe that unlawful immigrants work more than other groups. This is also not true. The employment rate for non-elderly adult unlawful immigrants is about the same as it is for the general population.

Many policymakers also believe that because unlawful immigrants are comparatively young, they will help relieve the fiscal strains of an aging society. Regrettably, this is not true. At every stage of the life cycle, unlawful immigrants, on average, generate fiscal deficits (benefits exceed taxes). Unlawful immigrants, on average, are always tax consumers; they never once generate a “fiscal surplus” that can be used to pay for government benefits elsewhere in society. This situation obviously will get much worse after amnesty.

Many policymakers believe that after amnesty, unlawful immigrants will help make Social Security solvent. It is true that unlawful immigrants currently pay FICA taxes and would pay more after amnesty, but with average earnings of $24,800 per year, the typical unlawful immigrant will pay only about $3,700 per year in FICA taxes. After retirement, that individual is likely to draw more than $3.00 in Social Security and Medicare (adjusted for inflation) for every dollar in FICA taxes he has paid.

Moreover, taxes and benefits must be viewed holistically. It is a mistake to look at the Social Security trust fund in isolation. If an individual pays $3,700 per year into the Social Security trust fund but simultaneously draws a net $25,000 per year (benefits minus taxes) out of general government revenue, the solvency of government has not improved.

Following amnesty, the fiscal costs of former unlawful immigrant households will be roughly the same as those of lawful immigrant and non-immigrant households with the same level of education. Because U.S. government policy is highly redistributive, those costs are very large. Those who claim that amnesty will not create a large fiscal burden are simply in a state of denial concerning the underlying redistributional nature of government policy in the 21st century.

Finally, some argue that it does not matter whether unlawful immigrants create a fiscal deficit of $6.3 trillion because their children will make up for these costs. This is not true. Even if all the children of unlawful immigrants graduated from college, they would be hard-pressed to pay back $6.3 trillion in costs over their lifetimes.

Of course, not all the children of unlawful immigrants will graduate from college. Data on intergenerational social mobility show that, although the children of unlawful immigrants will have substantially better educational outcomes than their parents, these achievements will have limits. Only 13 percent are likely to graduate from college, for example. Because of this, the children, on average, are not likely to become net tax contributors. The children of unlawful immigrants are likely to remain a net fiscal burden on U.S. taxpayers, although a far smaller burden than their parents.

A final problem is that unlawful immigration appears to depress the wages of low-skill U.S.-born and lawful immigrant workers by 10 percent, or $2,300, per year. Unlawful immigration also probably drives many of our most vulnerable U.S.-born workers out of the labor force entirely. Unlawful immigration thus makes it harder for the least advantaged U.S. citizens to share in the American dream. This is wrong; public policy should support the interests of those who have a right to be here, not those who have broken our laws.

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  • The__Bobster

    How many squat monsters did they use for these calculations? I hope it wasn’t the phony 11 million number when the real number is triple that.

    • Kathy M

      Closer to 30 million squatanistas.

    • potato78

      Alright,

      3 x 6 trillion more = 18 trillllllion more!

      Where can we find that much f money to raise them?

      borrow more from China?

      Fed should has been printing more money for illegals.

      Not from my dollars. My dollars is for us citizen only.

      • The Culturalist

        Did you know that the Chinese are none to pleased with this believe it or not. Remember, they have a whole bunch of money parked here that they want back with interest.

        This insanity puts their investment in serious peril.

        Maybe this is a backdoor way of bankrupting China, which isn’t such a bad thing if it weren’t for the fact that in the process it will turn us into Mexico and bankrupt us in the process.

        • Greg Thomas

          I wish China would speak up. Perhaps our traitors in Washington would listen to them. They certtainly will not listen to American citizens.

          • J. Rockwell

            Why should China speak up, we are helping them solve their internal problems with our open borders immigration policy.

          • potato78

            yes. I wish they could speak up.

            Unfortunately they can’t. What I know is that they would send majority of those people across back to our south border.
            Our white brothers have voting right, which never works for controlling our illegals.

          • Tucker

            Greg, the Chinese are every bit as savvy (if not more so) about the dynamics of ‘racial competition’ as are the graduating tribe from the Frankfurt School of anti-White Cultural Marxism.

            At the present time, following the installation of the first anti-White minority into the top power position over a historic White European dominant and formerly highly competitive nation – for the first time in world history, the non-White races of the world sense that they’ve finally got the White race under their boot – and from my reading of the non-white tea leaves, these non-whites are savoring that long sought after achievement. In other words, I would not get my hopes up that any non-white race is going to come to our defense and pull our cherries out of the fire.

            Remember, Asians went 72% for Obama in 2012 – despite the fact that, of all the different ethnic groups in America, they are the closest in behavior, work ethic, and over all temperament to White European Americans and would ‘seem’ (on paper, anyway) to be our natural allies. News Flash: They aren’t. They see Whites as racial competitors – which is the common sense, logically correct way for all races to view competing races of humans.

            Thus, don’t get your hopes up that the Chinese are going to ride to the rescue of White Americans. This task is up to us, and we have no non-white allies that we can or should count on to help us.

        • The__Bobster
          • The Culturalist

            Now that was funny. Thanks for the link!

        • Erasmus

          I have wondered if there isn’t an effort now afoot to bankrupt the US.
          There are still people who dream of the NAU.

          Americans would oppose a rich US joining in political union with a poor Mexico. But if Mexico could be brought up to par or the US brought down to Mexico’s level, which would be100X easier to do, the opposition to political union wouldn’t be as great.

      • Bossman

        Don’t worry, none of that is true. It is just meaningless paranoia.

    • American

      You are exactly right. The study does not take into account the social costs of their gangs, cartels, nor the victimization costs of these to U.S. citizens; generational welfare nor from U.S. Citizen labor compensation over the decades; etc…

    • Bossman

      The proposed immigration bill will remove most of the chain migration provisions which is a good thing. For that is the way the countless hordes of Asia get to enter the United States.

      • kjh64

        Don’t think for one second not allowing chain migration will be enforced. Most of our other immigration laws aren’t enforced, this one won’t be either if it passes.

      • Greg Thomas

        And you actually believe these traitors will enforce any provision of this treason. Just like, they were supposed to “secure the border” after the last treason of 1986, whereby some 5 million illegal invaders were given amnesty. Today, we have upwards of 25 million demanding another amnesty. Some secure border. Keep dreaming for your beloved illegal invaders.

    • notice how when they talk about amnesty it’s only 11 million mexicans, but when they want to debate the feasibility of deporting mexicans it’s 20 million. liberal spin: it’s a bad thing

    • me

      There’s an easy solution to this diabolical mess…..stop paying taxes en masse. Or, quit your jobs and go on ‘the dole’ as well. Passive resistance works–a la Ghandi.

  • The__Bobster

    NumbersUSA has a new fax to send out to your Congresscritters that incorporates this new study. I’ve sent out my faxes. Have you?

    • Nathanwartooth

      I’m pretty sure their fax machine just feeds onto their toilet paper roll.

      • Tucker

        In the old days, maybe 10 years or so ago, NumbersUSA used to allow people to make modifications or additions to their faxes. I used to take maximum advantage of that and tack on language that described what was happening to the White European majority as genocide and cite the exact passages from the 1947/1948 Convention on the Crime and Punishment of Genocide.

        Roy Beck, who is a lifetime member of the same tribe who founded the Frankfurt School and who were behind the 1965 White Genocide Legislation – terminated my user account. Today, I appear to be back on it – and can send faxes again, but I notice that Beck has stopped letting people edit or modify the faxes. He, and only He, controls the language.

        Remember what the MSNBC guy said who fired Patrick Buchanan for daring to write his book ‘Suicide of a Superpower’ and mention that White European descended Americans – the traditional founding stock of this nation and it’s rightful heirs and owners as the direct posterity of our 100 percent White European Founding Fathers – that we, just like any other racial group, had legitimate racial and ethnic specific interests and being reduced to a minority inside our own nation was not in our best interests?

        He said ‘This topic is not suitable for national discourse’.

        He and Beck are fellow tribe members and they believe that Whites and only Whites are not entitled to have racial and ethnic specific interests.

        To that, I say, the heck we aren’t. This is our land. Our ancestors settled it, fought for it, emerged victorious, and then tamed the land and turned it into the most successful civilization in world history.

        And, if we have to shed blood and fight for it again – or, more realistically, fight for an exclusive new White only homeland somewhere inside the continental USA – we will do so, and the Roy Becks of the world are not going to receive invitations to reside inside our new homeland.

        • John Smith

          Then send your own communications and encourage others to do the same but don’t just complain.

    • sbuffalonative

      When I first started using email long ago, I sent mail to my representatives. All I ever got back was an automatic response thanking me for my letter and telling me the representative gets too many letters to respond to.

      I’m not saying don’t waste your time. It may be staffers do count the number of letters pro and con on each issue. But I doubt it.

      One of my senators is Schumer of NY. Everyone in the state of NY could flood his inbox with mail opposing amnesty but he’s set to do it anyway.

      • Homo_Occidentalis

        Schumer is a member of the tribe. Do you think there is any chance that he would amnesty these fifth-columnists if they were Palestinians back in Zion?

        • StillModerated

          Brother Nathanel is an ex-tribesman. He’s not beneath exposing their ugly conspiracy;

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdjX6YQyHo&feature=player_embedded#!

          • Homo_Occidentalis

            “This video is not available in your country”… Thanks, Jewtube.

        • George White

          They have despicable double standards. Israel is a “white man’s country,” while they insist on slamming non-whites into OUR country.

          • Erasmus

            Most members of the tribe have double standards. Israel gets to deport their illegal aliens at the end of a rifle barrel. Americans must take every Tomás, Ricardo and José who sets foot on American soil.

            The upside to all of this is that more Americans are starting to see the double-dealing. It can never be hidden forever.

        • Guest

          Schumer is a member of the tribe.

          ——————————————————-

          Yes, the “tribe” of the wannabe’s…he is an imposter.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        One of my senators is Al Franken of MN. He’d vote for amnesty even if every white Minnesotan was against it and told him so (which they aren’t, because they ‘feel bad’ for the ‘poor undocumented immigrants’ who came here for a ‘better life’).

        I always send the Numbersusa faxes to my representatives, but I am under no delusions that it will actually stop any of them from voting for amnesty.

        • George White

          Those clueless Minnesotans have had little exposure to diversity. After some rapes and robberies and murders and drive bys and pedestrians mowed down by drunken mexicans, they just might change their minds.

          • John Smith

            The problem is that once it reaches that point, it never returns to the way it was before.

        • kjh64

          “(which they aren’t, because they ‘feel bad’ for the ‘poor undocumented immigrants’ who came here for a ‘better life’).”
          Too bad they don’t “feel bad” for the poor, working class Americans who can’t find work because of these “undocumented” workers. Too bad they don’t feel bad for the future generations of Americans who won’t have the luxury of living in a first world country because of all these “undocumented people” allowed in. Too bad they feel bad for a bunch of “undocumented people” who don’t give a damn about Americans, are just using us and would NEVER allow us to do the same to them.

      • George White

        Look…I know it might seem hopeless, but believe me they DO pay attention. NUMBERS ran some ads about Lindset Graham and crashed his approval rating. I make calls, send faxes and emails and letters. In the aggregate it has to matter to them. Call and talk to staffers and tell them how you feel. You can get talking points at NUMBERS< ALIPAC< FAIR< CAPS. All good orgs trying to save this country. We can't allow this amnesty to pass. It might well be the last stand for traditional America.

        • Tucker

          How Lindsey Graham or John McCain can continue to pull the wool over the eyes of the residents and voters in their respective states has to be a testament to the mind-numbing degree of criminally negligent stupidity of the White voters in those states.

          Either that, or the elections and voting machines in those states are owned by the folks in Tel Aviv – because these two cockroaches are two of the absolutely most subservient, treasonous, Lobby toe suckers in the entire US Senate.

    • Guest

      I just sent my fax

  • Personally, I think the $6.3T figure is too low, (and this report acknowledges the conservative nature of their estimate), because they lowball the number of illegal aliens that are both in country and they also forget about the daisy chain migration that would happen when the illegals get status/work permitted.

    But I’m happy that this report turned out the way it did anyway. First, Heritage has a weak history on the immigration issue, especially on H-xB. Second, that the Gang Bangers of Eight are now officially said to be running up a six terabuck bar tab is NOT good PR for this bill.

    And also…Marco Rubio is finished…he’ll probably have to make a living from here on out tending bar with his father at second rate weddings in South Florida.

    • Erasmus

      he’ll[Rubo] probably have to make a living from here on out tending bar with his father at second rate weddings in South Florida.

      Nah, he’ll go back to playing the conga drums and singing Baba-loo.

      • Bossman

        He is the son of poor immigrants so he should know what immigrant life is all about.

        • Guest

          All I CARE about is what MY race’s (WHITE) life is all about now since the invasion of the people of color from all over the world have destroyed what we and our ancestors created and built for our OWN race.(progeny).

          Guess you aren’t very smart since you know nothing of what MY Founders intended in the first place. Get out of MY country and stay out. They sure did NOT want you and your ilk in White America.

          • Bossman

            The Founding Fathers are my brothers and my heroes. They undertook a bold experiment that had never been tried before: Democracy based on Personal Liberty and Political Freedom. America is great because of that.

          • Wayne

            Wrong! They hated democracy and established the nation for THEM and their POSTERITY. It is only an experiment to immigrants who have their original nations to return to. For we REAL Americans it is our home, the only country our descendents have. Do us a favor and stop disrespecting our founders and our children!

          • Bossman

            If they hated democracy, why did they rebel against King George? Do you even know what democracy is?

          • ms_anthro

            Completely wrong–they founded a republic, not a democracy. Your anti-White revisionism has no place here.

          • Bossman

            The United States is a democratic republic. It is a representative democracy.

          • ms_anthro

            Not anymore.

    • Bossman

      Don’t lose sleep over this report. It is just meaningless paranoia. The smart and rich people don’t believe it. That is why they are supporting immigration reform.

      • Nathanwartooth

        No they are support it because it benefits them.

        Your logic is horrible and it hurts my brain. You don’t refute it, you just claim that “smart” and rich people are for massive amounts of immigration therefore it must be good!

      • Xerxes22

        No. The smart and rich people don’t care because only the working class and middle class peasants will be paying the cost of taking care of these immigrants, while the rich will reap the benefits (if there are any) from them. The rich also have the money to isolate themselves from all this vibrant diversity.

      • ms_anthro

        toad·y
        /ˈtōdē/

        Noun
        A person who behaves obsequiously to someone important.

        Verb
        Act in an obsequious way.

        Synonyms
        noun. sycophant – bootlicker – lickspittle – groveller
        verb. fawn – adulate – flatter

    • Tucker

      I would probably be the last guy in the world to think that anyone, besides perhaps Jeff Sessions, inside the GOP white establishment politicians might have the kind of brains and genius to play chess instead of checkers, but the thought did pop into the back of my mind that maybe the #1 reason why the White guys inside the GOP chose the strategy of handing this hot potato to Rubio was because they knew it would be radioactive and it would end any chance this rat had for taking over the party in 2016?

      Rubio has been exposed as trying to sell political suicide to his own party.

      Maneuvering him into exposing himself like this – if it was intentionally engineered with this goal in mind – would probably be the only really brilliant thing the GOP insiders have done in well over 30 years. This is the sort of trickery that a shrewd guy like myself would be able to initiate without even breaking a single bead of sweat, because I seem to have an instinct to always think ‘tactically’.

      But, sadly, I think its more likely that the Stupid Party just accidentally did something smart for a change. Like I said, with the exception of Jeff Sessions, I don’t think the GOP has a single tactical thinker in the entire party.

      Which is why the left has been handing them their rear ends on a platter, over and over and over, for the last 50 years.

      • I think you know the flaw in your own theory: You’re assuming the Republican establishment is against immigration and open borders.

        Of course the Stupid Party at its elite level (and even unfortunately at many of the lower/better levels) is bad at tactical thinking, to match their being mostly on the opposite side of us at the elite level on ideology. The only reason they win elections at all is pure blind luck, people’s fear of the other major party, or that outside parties do their heavy lifting for them.

  • So what? Pay up, people! You are either a democrat without a clue, or a republican will vote for any liberal just because the GOP endorses him/her.

  • Kathy M

    I just saw that nearly black Arab on CNN’s GPS program saying the exact opposite — that giving millions amnesty would increase tax revenues by trillions and the sooner we do it the better say Afrreed Alinokwedoo on GPS. I would love to deport just him with his arrogant self. He’s ALWAYS trying to lecture whites.

    • Erasmus

      While telling a lie is a problem, at least he’s making people think about things they hadn’t been talking about. This we can turn to our advantage.

      (If a bunch of poor people who pay no taxes and depend on government services makes for a rich society, then Baltimore, Dee-troit, Chicongo, Atlanta and Birmingham must all be swimming in dough.)

      • Bossman

        Immigrants always do better than native-born Blacks. U.S. Blacks have an image problem and have been socialized in a way that is not conducive to success.

        • Luca

          Thank you Mr. Bossman genius. Blacks have an image problem? And all this time we thought it was poverty, slavery, Jim Crow, crime, gangs, discrimination, bad neighborhoods etc.

          If only we had known this sooner. Why don’t you recommend that each black get a taxpayer subsidized PR agent to improve their image?

          BTW,..Your use of properly spelled “big” words and poor syntax are a dead give away. You sound like a properly indoctrinated immigrant hispanic or other immigrant college student who paid a little bit of attention in a Liberal Arts college. I know you’ll tell me you’re actually a fifth generation Swede from Wisconsin to prove me wrong, so don’t bother.

          • Bossman

            Crime, gangs, bad neighborhoods, etc. does help to create an image problem. Immigrants always do better than native-born Blacks. That is a fact. Many neighborhoods deserted by Blacks because they couldn’t make a go of it, have been taken over by Mexicans and other Hispanics. I’ve seen some of them myself.

          • Luca

            And when those neighborhoods evolve into the next generation of hispanics, their children will not do the work that their starving illegal immigrant parents did. And so that neighborhood becomes a gang infested barrio. I live in So Cal. I’ve seen some of them myself. East LA, Lincoln Heights, Baldwin Park, Glassel Park, Pico Rivera, Whittier, El Monte, etc. ad nauseum. Same story over and over, every time. They turn once nice neighborhoods into their version of Tijuana.

          • Guest

            Many neighborhoods deserted by Blacks because they couldn’t make a go
            of it, have been taken over by Mexicans and other Hispanics. I’ve seen
            some of them myself.
            ——————————————————

            So have I, mister….Instead of being a dysfunctional African (black) neighborhood, it has become a dysfunctional mestizo barrio with all the trimmings….

          • Wayne

            And what is Mexico’s image problem?? A failed nation state ruined by your own ancestor’s ineptitude, laziness, and immorality. Now you insist on coming to mine and bringing the same people who destroyed Mexico, namely Mexicans.

    • Bossman

      He probably knows more about this than you do. That is why he is on a CNN news program and you are hiding behind your computer.

      • Erasmus

        No, it’s most likely because of his skin color. Knee grows are now advanced well beyond their abilities in American society. You certainly don’t think anyone would have given Barack Obama a second look if his name were Stan Pilszenwicz?

      • Guest

        CNN? Oh, yeah that sure is a legit network, isn’t it? They lie like you do.

      • Wayne

        Bossman, that is the stupidest and most ignorant comment I’ve seen on AMREN.

    • Nathanwartooth

      That reminds me of the lie that for every dollar of (insert government program here) spent it puts 2 dollars into the economy.

      If that were true you would be able to create an infinite feedback loop and everyone would be billionaires in a week by putting everyone in the US on every government program there is.

  • Hunter Morrow

    But how much money will it make our whore politicians and political bribers? Don’t be so selfish, White America.

    Don’t you realize the amount “campaign contributions” on the line?

  • potato78

    Where are they gonna get F…. 6 trillion more?

    Don’t be telling me of F… raising taxes.

    • Bossman

      Don’t worry, all of that is just meaningless paranoia. Most immigrants are young, healthy and able-bodied people who given a chance will do well. Their children will be Americans who will be entitled to all the benefits and privileges of U.S. citizenship.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Just by your post I can tell that you don’t understand race at all.

        So which liberal website sent you here to troll? Just curious.

        • Jefferson

          Bossman is Hispanic. So he has some racial skin in the game when it comes to amnesty for illegals because it benefits his people.

          Hispanics who are against amnesty for illegals are about as rare as African Americans who are against affirmative action.

          • Nathanwartooth

            Ahh ok. Thanks for explaining.

          • George White

            I don’t know if he’s brown, but he is very unintelligent, and also tends to lie frequently. On second thought, maybe he is brown.

          • Bossman

            Can you prove that I’ve lied in any of my posts?

          • kjh64

            Yeah, imagine the reverse. Imagine if millions of Whites from America or Europe were pouring into Latin American countries. Bossman would be screaming that it was conquest, imperialism, colonization etc. etc. Of course Latinos are not stupid like Whites are, they would NEVER allow it in their countries and they don’t. If Whites came across the Mexican border in large numbers illegally looking for “a better life”, the Mexicans would send us right back across to the USA at gunpoint, no sympathy.

          • Bossman

            White people are generally welcomed wherever they go and Latin America is still receiving European immigrants. Many Portuguese people are going to Brazil these days. Any white man who goes to a Third World country and integrates himself into the culture will be quickly accepted as one of their own.

          • Tucker

            “Integrates himself into the culture”

            Translation of Bossman’s B.S. – Any white man or woman who goes to at third world, non-white country and agrees to commit racial auto-genocide by miscegenating with the local non-white population, thereby allowing non-whites to engage in their favorite sport of hijacking white genes – will quickly be accepted as one of their own.

            Incidentally, Bossman. Is that odor I smell right now the odor of those matza balls that you forgot were on the stove top burner?

          • Guest

            Again…LIAR!

          • Wayne

            Actually, that is my experience in the Latin American countries. Which, by the way, I love to visit whenever I get the chance. I love to visit Mexico too, never once was treated bad. But I never demand those countries change to suit me. I respect their borders language and culture. I know that if they change they will not be original anymore.
            Reality is, Bossman, it is not the immigrants that have ever been a problem in the USA, it is the leftist and Chamberpots of commerce right, the enemy within, that is the real problem–our ONLY problem, really.

      • David Ashton

        Why don’t they stay home and use their abilities to improve their own land?

        • kjh64

          That’s the million dollar question, why don’t they? They act as though they can’t have a better life unless they live around White people. If all races are equal as they say, then these people shouldn’t have to come to another country in large numbers and live around White people, they should be able to create success in their own lands be it Mexico, Africa, Pakistan etc.

      • kjh64

        No, it’s not paranoia, it’s reality. Also, I don’t care how young, healthy are able-bodied these people are, we do NOT want or need them. . They are not OUR problem. They have their own countries such as Mexico, El Salvador etc. They can stay in their own countries and do well..

      • Wayne

        Uh, Bossman, then why is Mexico not a first world country??? But yes, they will get those benefits, which is what America is all about, right?

    • Xerxes22

      The Senate just passed the internet sales tax. They know what’s coming.

  • Erasmus

    Most of us intuitively knew how expensive this amnesty was going to be.
    First they told us that we needed to get smarter and that our kids were going to have to compete with children from China and India.

    Then they told us that we had to be ready for austerity, for taxes to go up and for services to go down.

    Then they finish by telling us that we have to amnesty tens of millions of poorly educated, low-skilled illegal aliens who have large numbers with lots of illegitimate children. Who couldn’t see how expensive this was all going to be?

    The temerity of these clowns in Washington. They expect us to pay for our own national-suicide? Incredible.

    • Bossman

      Almost all immigrants are young and able-bodied and healthy. Sick, old and diseased people do not venture to cross borders. If the unauthorized immigrants are surviving now without any of the benefits and privileges of legality, just imagine how much better they will do when they are legal.

      • David Ashton

        Why don’t they stay home and help their own sick, old and diseased?

      • kjh64

        Mexico is the sixteenth richest nation in the world, however the wealth is concentrated in the hands of the elite rulers of Mexico. Why don’t Mexico’s leaders take care of their own? Imagine how much better these unauthorized immigrants will be if they went home and built their own nation up?

        • Wayne

          Bossman ignores questions about Mexico. Too hard to answer.

  • sbuffalonative

    Anyone who denies there will be a high cost to amnesty is lying.

  • guest

    Do these pro-immigration fools even realize how much it costs to keep and support these illegal immigrants in this country? The price of diversity and integration just keeps growing and growing, bleeding this country completely dry.

    • David Ashton

      “Capitalists” who exploit cheap labor extrude its social costs onto others.
      “Communists” who welcome cheap labor hope to use it for revolution.

      Who are the losers from this pincer movement?

      • Bossman

        The United States was created by immigrants and is still a country of immigrants. If the immigrants can’t compete, they can always go back. Most immigrants do well in the U.S.A. The truly indigent are the native-born who are stupid and lazy.

        • Nathanwartooth

          http://www.vdare.com

          Also don’t just troll the comments, actually read the material on this website. You can view past magazines of AmRen and learn about race and all kinds of really cool stuff.

          I know you think you are a super smart guy trolling a bunch of idiots, but sorry you’re not. The people here are one of the smartest groups I’ve ever seen on the internet.

          We’ve all taken the time to learn, study and research things outside of what we learned in school or saw on CNN. With hard work and perseverance you can be just like us. I promise. We were all like you once, we know you can do it!

          • Bossman

            So far, none of you know any history and geography and biology and anthropology..I go to vdare.com some times, it was created by an English immigrant who is probably jealous and angry that his kind is not allowed to enter the United States freely.

          • Guest

            Sounds like you are the jealous one… Of White people, that is.

            I don’t blame you since you are of the race that cannot and never will be able to create or maintain a civilized prosperous nation. Only White people can do that.

          • Wayne

            Why should Mexico be favored just because we are unfortunate enough to share a border? Why not bring millions of Bangladeshis? Why do you think our children owe Mexico’s?

        • George White

          Let me tell you about the mexicans I know here in Los Angeles. I know a beautiful young mexican woman who has multiple children from different baby daddies, and she gets a welfare check of $800 per month, and probably other assistance (food stamps, etc.) that I’m not aware of. Then there’s the middle aged mexican guy who also gets a check of some kind (SSI or disability) and then works under the table as well. He’s a druggie and a loser, but not violent. Then there’s another slimy mexican I know of….also gets a government check (NATURALLY!) I think disability, while he deals drugs BIGTIME. This guy is very bad, a walking stereotype of the gang member/druge dealing mexican, complete with mean pit bull.

          Those are only THREE mexicans, and I’ll stop there, but i could go on for HOURS.

          • Bossman

            If they qualify for government benefits, it means that they once worked and were productive members of the society. Only legal residents can obtain governments benefits.

          • Guest

            LIAR! How would you know? I used to work for the government in that area. They DO collect all kinds of benefits that WE pay for, so quit lying to further your sick anti-white agenda.Mexicans, legal and illegal are on all welfare programs that WHITES pay for. All those unwed Mexican girls NEVER worked a day in their lives and have baby after baby by different “men” just to freeload off us.

          • Wayne

            Oh God! Disregard my last comment about your stupidest comment! This one blows it right out of the water!

          • Bossman

            If people who are not legal residents can obtain government benefits, then it is not me who is stupid; it is the government that is stupid.

        • David Ashton

          Depends on the immigrants and their cultural impacts on a cohesive nation. Intelligent and hardworking patriots should try to turn their own countries into places of achievement.

        • Guest

          The USA was formed and created and built by WHITE Europeans for WHITES, period.

          It never was for any other race of people and you know it. The ONLY race that can assimilate together is the White European peoples.

          • Tucker

            Exactly. Even the anti-White leftists admit this truth, because the writings of our 100 percent White Founders were very clear on this issue – although the left tries to twist it around and claim that our Founders were a bunch of ‘evil racists’, for daring to be honest about the kind of nation that they were attempting to create – a homeland for White European people.

            Curiously, the same leftists who are screaming ‘racist’ at our Founders for their intentions turn around and hypocritically say the Israel has a right to be an ethnic exclusive homeland for jewish people.

            The ‘Melting Pot’ worked only for as long as America was allowing various flavors of White people from Europe to immigrate here. You cannot have a melting pot that transgresses racially different and racially, ethnically, and culturally incompatible people.

          • saxonsun

            No, most leftists attack Israel and support the Palestinians.

        • Wayne

          The US was created by colonists , settlers and conquerors for them and their posterity. Immigrants have come, yes, but they did not lay the foundation, set up the machinery, so to speak.
          But tell us Bossman, if these people are all that and a bag of chips why do they not fix their own countries.

  • Jefferson

    No real true fiscal conservative politician worth her or his salt, will support amnesty for Illegals.

    Once Illegals are legalized, they will qualify for the same government goodies that Americans living below the poverty line qualify for like section 8 housing, Obamacare, food stamps, welfare, etc.

    The nanny state will just keep getting bigger and bigger. And who will fund it ? The mostly White taxpayers, that is who.

    • Bossman

      Most immigrants are young and able-bodied so why should they be such a drag on the economy? Is every Mexican an indigent? How are they surviving now without any of the benefits of citizenship? If they are surviving now without any of the benefits of being a legal resident, why should their situation suddenly worsen after being made legal? That is not making any sense.

      • David Ashton

        You support illegality, then?

      • Guest

        You really are a nutcase, aren’t you? You think they are not getting all these benefits now?? Yes, they are and have been for years! As for all those young Mexicans contributing is a big lie. Look at them now! They collect welfare and free medical care NOW! They are gang bangers, they commit most of the crime where I live, drive while drunk/loaded, they are nothing but scum in my book. Send them all back to Mexico where they came from. They are MEXICO”S problem, not ours!

        • Tucker

          Is it just me, or does Bossman sound an awful lot like Engelman?

          At a minimum, these two guys must be brothers.

          • Guest

            Yes, he most certainly does. Is Engleman a mod here? I have a feeling he is and uses different “names” as a poster.

      • Wayne

        Bossman: we look at Mexico and what the Mexicans created there. It is not what we want for our children. Why would you expect Mexicans to produce anything differently than their track record?

  • potato78

    I’m sure Congress isn’t concerned. Their pensions and healthcare are safe like in heaven. But F the rest of us!

    • The__Bobster

      Ah, but if the system collapses, they will be paid their pensions in worthless dollars, so they’d better be converting their bribe money into pieces of silver.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Oh they are, trust me.

        The average senator has 14 million dollars in the bank. Fourteen million!!

        When you have that much money your wealth is well diversified in precious metals, foreign currency and busnisses, etc.

        If the US economy collapsed, it would be a land grab for the wealthy. Everyone would default on their homes and the rich (who never really lost that much because loldollars) could buy them for pennies on the dollar.

        Just one of the many ways they could care less what happens.

        They would also know months or years before a pending collapse and have a chance to get rid of all of their worthless dollars before we had a chance to.

        • George White

          It’s true that the wealthy actually have no idea regarding the impact of the unskilled uneducated mexicans. All the rich know is that the mexicans mow the lawn and keep the pool clean, and seem to be polite at restaurants. Money insulates the rich so they’re blind. But the middle class and lower class whites (AND blacks) suffer the most, in lost work and lost wages, crime and violence, etc.

  • Funruffian

    I spoke with a very nice Indian woman a month ago while teaching at a Diverse HS. She understood perfectly what was happening in our country and how immigration is placing tremendous burdens on our economy and quality of education. She also believed that immigration should be halted or at least severely restricted. It’s very refreshing to know that she understood that Whites should be feeling quite uncomfortable with all of these radical changes to their status quo.

    • Bossman

      She should be concerned. Her country has almost 1.3 billion people and they all want to come to the United States; and they all want to buy houses and drive cars too.

      • Funruffian

        I know. No kidding, like she should talk. At least she wasn’t some crazy leftist who felt we should be dispossessed.

      • David Ashton

        Billions from all over “want to come to the US” not just your Mexican illegals.
        What happens if that happens?

        • Bossman

          If that were to happen, it would be pure and utter chaos, that is why I’m against unlimited immigration especially if it is from Asia. As for Mexico, it is the neighbor next door, so the United States government should be able to come to some migration accord that would be best for both countries.

          • Jefferson

            I am against unlimited immigration from Mexico and other Latin American countries because most Hispanics immigrating to the U.S have a low I.Q, are low skilled workers, and import lots of criminal activity with them.

            Thanks to Latin American immigration, the U.S now has gangs like MS-13, The Nortenos, The Surenos, Mexican Drug Cartels, etc.

            Bossman your south of the border cousins have enriched the U.S with their vibrant gang culture. Don’t you just love diversity ?

          • Wayne

            How’s this for an accord: Mexico for Mexicans, America for Americans (as in USA, not the continent)! Done.

          • Bossman

            That will never happen. The governments of both countries are working together to further integrate the two countries. President Obama was there last week. Did you miss that?

    • saxonsun

      She shouldn’t be here either.

  • NYB

    “the children… are not likely to become net tax contributors”

    No, their real value (to the elites) is that they will consume. The wealthiest get a cut of every consumption dollar in the economy.

    An expanding underclass of welfare dependents, living hand to mouth, is good for the elites. They get richer while the costs are born by others.

    The country is being reconfigured for the benefit of a wealthy oligarchy.

    • J. Rockwell

      Not just the country. The world.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    CLASSIC (2006 vintage) LOU DOBBS: CAPSULE VIDEO SUMMARY OF THE COSTS OF MASS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
    (4-minute video, Nov. 6, 2006)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6t2ckpb5g

    NOTE: Even uses a term that would horrify today’s PC media, including Fox News, “Anchor Babies”.

  • bigone4u

    I love how the Democrats are willing to pay any price with our tax dollars to get new voters. I also love the way Republicans will pay any price with our tax dollars to get cheap labor for their Big Business pals. Yep, Democrats and Republicans are the disease that just keeps on giving.

  • White Mom in WDC

    Look people it is time to stop playing by the rules. Stop paying you credit cards, your mortgages, anything you can get away with. If you have student loans, defer, defer, defer. Pay yourself first. Don’t give money to the hand that stabs you in the back

    • Erasmus

      The Senate, congress and president and many of our “elites” are now effectively declaring that the rule of law doesn’t matter. Why not take them at their word? Let them learn the consequences when society adopts the same disregard for the law that they now have.

  • J. Rockwell

    What are they talking about, don’t they know that once all these Africans and Hispanics cross the border and get U.S. passports they magically become “Americans,” therefore making them and their children capable of designing the next iPhone or hybrid automobile? They will make America richer with their diverse presence beyond our wildest dreams.

    You all need to wake up and get with the times. Nobody is illegal!

    • Jefferson

      Eva Longoria’s Mexican family has been in the U.S for many generations, yet she has admitted that she still can not culturally relate to White Americans.

      The vast majority of these south of the border people do not assimilate in the U.S., no matter how long their family has been here.

      • Bossman

        This beauty of Mexican origin is on U.S television every night so what more assimilation you want her to do. Her community is under assault so she is helping as much as she can. Note well that Blacks who are U.S citizens were prevented from assimilating into mainstream U.S culture by all kinds of segregation laws and the lingering effects of that are still with us.

        • Jefferson

          Being on U.S television makes you an assimilated American ? What kind of retarded logic is that.

          There are plenty of people on U.S television who hold anti-White views, Eva Longoria is one of them.

          Eva Longoria can’t wait until White people become a Minority in this country.

          Eva Longoria is a big financial donor for The National Council Of La Raza, which is an anti-White special interests group.

        • sbuffalonative

          In many ways, blacks fared better under segregation.

          Their neighborhoods were largely stable and safe. Their kids graduated from school. They had a lower out of wedlock birth rate. They had their own business districts.

          All that fell apart when they demanded integration.

          As they say, be careful what you wish for.

          • Erasmus

            Separate but equal was best.

        • Gunrunner1

          Liar

        • kjh64

          No, Whites in America are under assault. A lot of these Mexicans do NOT want to assimilate, they want to create Mexico in America while White people provide the jobs, benefits etc. If her community feels under assault, then why don’t they return home, I would if I were them.

          • Guest

            Assimilation of Mexicans, blacks, Arabs, Asians, etc.into any White nation is an oxymoron. Races cannot assimilate with each other, period. Only White peoples can assimilate with each other.

        • Wayne

          So she is living here and theoretically is loyal to her country, but not really–she is loyal to Mexico. But why does she not return if she can’t fit in? Go back!

    • Bossman

      Nobody is illegal that is true but they can commit illegal acts. Being in the United States without proper documentation is a misdemeanor. So therefore the penalty should suit the crime which is to pay a fine and get to the back of the line. It seems so plain and logical.

      • Wayne

        Still can’t figure out why all these Mexicans can’t wait to leave their homeland! I mean, Mexicans are so able bodied and smart, right? Should’t Mexico be a pardise?

  • Tom_in_Miami

    I suspect that the upper crust in business and politics pushing for more immigration have their own skin protected by Swiss bank accounts they can dip into when this economy comes crashing down on our heads.

  • Luca

    Meanwhile, they forgot to mention the new housing and loan programs sure to follow. It would be considered “Racist” to not help the newly arrived, under-served immigrant community. Therefore, banks will be forced to give loans to poor credit risks who can’t speak English, have no education, and no documented means of income other than welfare checks and cashing in soda bottles and aluminum cans. Once they get their loans, they’ll have three generations of five families living in a 3-bedroom house where they’ll sleep in shifts, turn the living room into a bedroom and put the stove and frig outside on the back patio.

    Once everyone can afford a house it will inflate the market and create a bubble until it all comes tumbling down like an unsustainable house of cards. Then the government will step in an forgive all the loans or just shovel newly printed money to the banks so they can write the loses off the books. And guess who gets to pay for all this?

    Sounds eerily familiar now doesn’t it?

  • J. Rockwell

    Of course it’s going to be a disaster for the average American. Nothing
    the government has done in the last 30+ years has been even remotely
    aimed at improving the lives of average Americans. Instead, they’ve done
    everything possible to destroy the average American’s quality of life:
    free trade with third world slave labor countries; open immigration with
    the same third world countries; destruction of American cities via
    welfare-subsidized black crime; taxation to support third world
    immigrants, blacks, Wall Street banks and foreign wars; and trillions of dollars created out of thin air (read: stolen from savers) by the Federal Reserve to fund it all. The list is
    pages long. This is just the latest of nails in the U.S.’s coffin.

    When it’s all said and done, and what’s left of the productive economy finally buckles under the load of parasites, taxes and government regulation, they’ll blame “unbridled capitalism” for crashing it all and declare total government.

  • Exoplanet Finder

    I just emailed all my senators and representatives and told them I became a one issue voter after reading this article from the Heritage Foundation, and that if they vote against it they will have my vote, and if they do not they will not. Good idea?

    • Joe Mack

      Of course. But when they still vote against the will of 80% of Americans what will you do then?

  • dogbone

    Look at the bright side. The printing presses at the Federal Reserve Bank can only print money so fast, and making them go any faster will cause the machines to jam. This means that they will have to build more printing presses to keep up with demand. Building new printing presses will create new jobs.
    The bad part is they will probably have the machines made in China and delivered by a truck driver that is here illegally, but if we are lucky that illegal truck driver may just by a hamburger and fries from a white teenager working at McDonald’s. Isn’t trickle down economy wonderful.

    In other news. Were Fudged.

  • Bobby

    Oh but there is no agenda. There is nothing going on behind the American citizen taxpayers back. Oh well, as long as citizens do nothing, these slimey politicians will continue to sell this nation out.

    • Joe Mack

      Sell it out to who?

      In whose interest is it to destroy the USA?

  • The proof is that illegals aren’t worth it–heavily penalize employers who employ them; cut ALL welfare programs to illegals and force them to ‘self-deport’; illegals have little education and bring little or NO value to our society.

    The very idea of rewarding a group that willfully and deliberately breaks our laws, then DEMANDS citizenship and social dollars is beyond offensive; time to write, email, call and visit legislators and FORCE them to stop this amnesty BS.

    Furthermore, the same efforts need to be used to impeach Obama

    We must use the same tactics liberals, illegal sympathizers and illegals use…

  • George White

    Get on the phone and call the Senators and Congressman and tell them NO AMNESTY!!!!
    I make calls almost every single day.

  • AugustusAlexander

    I did not read the article but i do not need to read it to know that these immigrants will cost us an ungodly amount, it’s simple math.

    Millions upon millions of uneducated/unskilled people who speak a different language having an average of 3 kids = millions upon millions of more unskilled/uneducated people…..

    Of course some of these illegals and their children will grow up to be successful and put back more into the system than they cost………..but for every one of them that does something significant like create jobs, make millions or becomes educated there will be 10 more who end up imprisoned or on welfare so they will together take a way more out of the system then they could ever possibly put in.

    America is not a first world nation because we have legions of janitors and low-skilled people…..we have enough unskilled whites and blacks as it is, we do not need to throw a heap of Mexicans and whoever from shizhole “x” on top of that.

    so basically my math is out of every 10 kids born to illegal parents 1 becomes successful 3 lower middle class 2 become middle class/upper mid class and another 4 becomes lifetime leeches whether it prison or straight government assistance…..this = lower standard of living for America….my numbers were also liberal and nice i do think it will even be that good.

    Another aspect that many people do not account for in relation to the economy is “collateral damage” so if a Mexican gets drunk and decides to drive a work truck around wasted and slams into a working American who is injured…… Ambulance, medical care, manhunt for Mexican, trial, american company down an employee, American family/friends affected by the accident and *insert w/e* you get the idea….there will be a tremendous stress put on Americans who are paying the majority of the taxes for these people to have a “better life” and at our expense.

  • rocket scientist

    Pagan muslim born and raised Obama is behind it all and nothing but a hater racist of the caucasoid European white race who claimed 911 was a fix and hated America going into Iraq or Afghanistan yet has promoted all the N African revolutions that have been a miserable failure to say the least.
    What is being missed in the entire dialogue is Bush and others allowed 20 million reds from south of the border to flood the border based on innocence and ignorance and help build the 15 million homes or other manual labor jobs being the upper class elitist he is unable to understand the nature of commoners. Bush in his ignorance also was used by the radical opportunists to smuggle Obama into the WH at an opportune moment and this has been a complete disaster to say the least opening a can of worms.
    Obama as a fast rising highly sinister world figure was never innocent in his evil agenda to completely alter the face of America and convert the European caucasoid white race into a minority while bastardizing the Statue of Liberty meaning using the reds as tools giving them freebies to lure them here. This is entirely 180 degrees from the Bush innocent ignorance and why Dubya was such a failure in the end. Bush was also used by the neocons to promote their own agendas.
    Obama has clearly proven to be evil and rotten to the core plus a proven homosexual pervert who has also weakened and emasculated America with this agenda while lying through his teeth and running up a now 18 trillion national debt and seeking to destroy the 2nd Amendment rights in typical fascist socialism.
    His redistribution of wealth and immigration and foreign policy along with perverting America and marginalizing the majority race running up phenomenal debts makes this unknown from hell a threat and enemy to common decency and good. Hopefully the Benghazi lies will get this corrupt corrosive untouchable privilege character impeached.
    There is nothing innocent or ignorant about this cold blooded calculating manipulative radical tyrant with his destructive genetic altering evil agenda.

  • MartelC

    remember it will cost taxPAYERs – not the super elite; they will profit off of it.

    People wonder why the elite cannot see their policies are destructive- well – look at the net worth of the super elite vs the middle and upper middle classes – we have been losing, they have been gaining… what’s not to like?

    • Joe Mack

      The elite who are in charge of this country now are no longer Americans.

  • George White

    Flood the Senate Judiciary today with calls and emails and faxes. Let them know that you do NOT want any form of amnesty for illegals, that it will cost a fortune, there is nothing in it for Americans, we have 20 million REAL Americans out of work, we do not have a labor shortage, we want our current laws enforced, we want the borders secured, etc.

  • 30 million+ mexicans flooding the country will destroy our way of life and our quality of life, what is the cost of that?

    • Joe Mack

      That is the goal of the globalists. They see it as a benefit.

    • MartelC

      as joe said, that’s a feature, not a bug.

  • Joe Mack

    California is bankrupt. This is all the proof anyone should need.

    But the fact that the politicians keep pushing for this indicates to me an almost universal level of corruption in both parties.

    I believe it is the goal of the globalists to purposely divide and destroy the American civilization to pave the way for global government.

    And they have almost the entire government paid off and working for them to accomplish this goal (and media, universities, wall st, major corporations, private foundations, etc)

  • devils advocate

    These same immigrants are receiving more benefits now without contributing …would making them taxpayers plus the fine they pay for getting their papers be better for the economy. These people work the jobs nobody wants off the books while their American born children sponsor their citizenship…arent we losing by not changing

  • I know a family from South of the Border, here legally for some 17 years, who are still receiving government bennies. There are also several regular white guys and gals I know personally who receive government bennies. Some just work under the table and some just lie about their situation and they all live very well on our dime. We even paid for their babies.
    Why should this be? When I was sick for two years and could not do much of anything I could not receive anything. However I was self employed all these years so that was one problem. Government and banks don’t like self employed people much.