Kobach: Obama Immigration Proposal ‘Out of Touch’

Brent D. Wistrom, Kansas City Star, January 14, 2013

President Obama must not be very serious about immigration reform because the proposal outlined over the weekend is out of touch with sentiments in the U.S. House and with the American public, said Kris Kobach, one of the nation’s leading anti-illegal immigration advocates and Kansas’ secretary of state.

“Instead of going for limited reform, he’s asking for the full monty,” Kobach told The Eagle on Monday.

Kobach said he thinks the proposal, which calls for a path to citizenship for most of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, is set up to divide Congress into groups for and against amnesty to make Democrats look like champions of an important voter block—Hispanics.

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Kobach agrees with verifying the legal status of workers, but he said allowing a path to citizenship could add more than $2 trillion to the nation’s debt if illegal immigrants become eligible for Medicaid, Medicare and other benefits.

He acknowledged illegal immigrants would be paying taxes, but he said because many of them are low-skill workers it wouldn’t make up for the additional costs.

“You’re basically giving citizenship to people who will be a fiscal drag on the economy,” he said.

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  • David Ashton

    To a Cultural Marxist that is a matter of indifference or even an advantage to the egalitarian revolution designed to marginalize and victimize the “angry white males”.

  • The__Bobster

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/have-sovereignty-defenders-forgotten-amnesty-s-26-trillion-price-tag

    Have Sovereignty Defenders Forgotten Amnesty’s $2.6 Trillion Price Tag?

    By Brenda Walker on January 22, 2013 at 7:28pm

    Is it just me, or is the amnesty amnesia cloaking device working at full power plus?

    Nearly of the media opinion around the topic of immigration has been to urge the passage of a comprehensive amnesty for millions of lawbreakers. That’s expected, given the press’ ideology.

    Meanwhile, there are several very strong arguments against mega amnesty, including the 23 million Americans un- or underemployed, the fact that rewarding lawbreakers will draw additional millions in the future and the damage to national sovereignty.

    But what about the 2007 report from Robert Rector of Heritage.org that found a big amnesty giveaway would be incredibly expensive: Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion.

    Seriously, budget hawks rightly pillory the spendaholic President for his annual trillion-dollar overruns, but spending $2.6 trillion to give citizenship to 12 to 20 million border hoppers and visa overstayers is also monstrous and unacceptable.

    • One day, I’ll spill those beans, too.

      However, I’m going to say something a little different about that for now. I know you read V-Dare, because you often link to V-Dare to drive home some important points. However, I’m not down with the notion they’re peddling that Romney is President right now if he picks Kobach as his running mate. Sure, I would have LOVED for him to have done that.

      But:

      1. I can still imagine an easy path for Obama to have won re-election if the opposition was Romney/Kobach instead of Romney/Ryan.

      2. Since you all know now what I did for a living most of last year, I can attest that this notion that “you the political candidate lost because you didn’t do exactly what I wanted you to do” is now a mode of thinking I despise. Even when those advancing the notion are doing it from friendly quarters and with good faith. Those who say “you didn’t win because you didn’t do everything I wanted you to do” are assigning themselves a level of political omniscience that they may or may not deserve. They happen to be engaging in the logical error of “argument from authority,” only the “authority” is only said to exist because the candidate lost the election. It’s the other side of the coin of, for example, Biden telling, for example, an association of gay Vietnamese that Obama only won re-election because gay Vietnamese voters made all the difference.

    • Nathanwartooth

      You know what I really hate is when they throw out numbers like 2.6 trillion but don’t say over what period of time. Will this be over 1 year, 5 years, 10 years or 100 years?

  • Hugo

    If Kobach is smart and lucky, he could be President someday. I mean that with all seriousness. There is a large segment of the country that is looking for someone to lead on this issue, and when I say lead I do not mean “comprehensive” immigration reform. One term Governor and then run against the next ethnic hack the Dems thorw at us. Don’t laugh.

    • George White

      I fully agree. I’ve been following his rise to prominence. He’s a very smart man and would make a great POTUS.

    • mobilebay

      I too have been following Kris Kobach’s rise. We have so few people who could set an example of a true patriot and who could bring this nation back to what our forefathers intended and that was to be populated by Europeans. Since the Hispanic and Muslim invasion, we are far afield from their vision. In the past half century, our beloved country has been handed over to those who want to make it into the likeness of what they left, or to destroy it entirely. And they’ve been aided and abetted by our own government.

      • The reason I know he’s a serious politician who wants to get work done, rather than just someone who’s looking to be famous just for being famous, is that he started with a relatively “crummy” political job (Kansas Secretary of State) rather than going for the relative brass ring (Senate or Governor) right away. Do a good job in one job, and wait your turn or your open daylight for the next job. But…don’t look for that to happen in 2014, because Pat Roberts will seek another term in the Senate and surely Samnesty Brownnose (who, all of a sudden, isn’t singing the same kind of amnesty and open borders tune he used to, now that he’s the Governor of a state, rather than a Senator from a state), will very likely run for a second term as Governor. So look for Kobach to seek and probably win a second term as Secretary of State, and see what develops in 2018. But he is way too smart to launch a Presidential campaign in 2016 from the perch of elected state SoS. If we get a great President as a result of the 2016 elections, and offers Kobach ICE head, he could take that.

        • SmithandSmith

          I think you’re forgetting about all the non-whites. You know non-whites vote non-white. California had some district that had an asian and a White woman (could’ve been a man, I don’t remember) running (last election) and the district had recently become majority asian and guess who won?

          I fear that by the time 2016 rolls around, there won’t be enough White People to sway a Presidential Election even if we all voted the same way. Please tell me I’m wrong!

          I say this because there are over two million aliens pouring in every year and with some States giving illegal aliens identification (driver’s) and how the last two elections went (fraud), I have no hope at all that we’ll ever see a White Man as President ever again. At least, not until we take our Country back that is.

          • I’m the one who’s saying that the USA as presently constituted has seen its last elected President from the Republican Party as presently constituted.

          • SmithandSmith

            Yeah. You, me and millions of others have said the exact same thing for well over two decades now. It’s not exactly been a secret that immigration has been non-white and reagan with his amnesty. Millions of Americans saw this coming from way back.

    • jay11

      Finally a new name with some teeth. I am fearful that we may never see another white male president again, save for a random effeminate liberal.

    • SintiriNikos

      I hope you gents are right. I will check out Kobach’s voting record, hopefully he’s the real deal. As unkind as I’ve been to the GOP, if somebody like this rises up and caters to working class Whites and to hell with the pandering to the others, the party might be saved.

  • So CAL Snowman

    What difference does $2 Trillion make when the Democrats are pushing to abolish the debt ceiling once and for all? Of course the Vichy Republicans will roll over and acquiesce to the all mighty democrats. Let’s be honest for a moment. This country is no longer ours, it has not been ours in a long time. Fighting against legalizing illegal alien invaders is a reflexive, nationalist response to what we deem as a danger to our country. Whether they are legalized or not, they will remain here indefinitely. The laws are not going to be magically changed to limit the invader’s access to public services and to ban their offspring from becoming U.S. citizens. They will not self deport. Legalizing these illegal invaders will help to cripple the US once and for all and it may have the added benefit of seriously awakening millions of still slumbering Americans as to how evil and Ant-White/Anti-American this government really is.

    • shattered

      I imagine they’ll resort to straight monetization at some point.

      • Sherman_McCoy

        So buy your gold and silver now. Oh, and guns and non-perishable foods.

  • fakeemail

    If all these immigrants were white Canadians, than the point could be made how it makes no sense to import people when Americans don’t have jobs. And also how an increase in labor supply means a decrease in wages. And also how most immigrants live off of welfare.

  • storibund

    The new AP poll out declares that, by golly, Republicans have decided to stop being haters where illegal immigrants – er, undocumented, uh.. whatever – are concerned, and are
    now hap-hap-happy to enfold them within this great new country of ours.

    Suspicious of this when I saw it this morning, I googled “republicans illegal immigrants” and
    found nothing but this poll, regurgitated by every news outlet across the nation. I stopped looking after 10 – 10! – pages. NOTHING but this poll in response to those words.

    So… yeah. Full court press: on.

    • liberalsuck

      They can kiss my vote goodbye forever.

  • shattered

    Enormously expensive. Hard to begin even fathoming how expensive it would be. They would all make an immediate rush for the nearest social services office and sign up for everything they could while continuing to work under the table.

  • Garrett Brown

    yah, maybe just a liiiiiiiitle bit.

  • Triarius

    Over a decade ago it was 12-20 million illegals, three years ago it 29.8 million, with 50+ million if you include anchor babies. Does anyone really think it is 11 million now? It’s probably closer to 35 million.

  • SmithandSmith

    Hard to believe that they’re still daring to use the exact same number of illegal aliens they’ve been using for well over a decade now.

    I can’t wait until the whole damn thing falls apart. White People will finally see the non-whites for how they really are and the asian lovers will find out just how much those harmless asians love them back.

  • odious liberal

    The bantu-in-chief doesn’t care about the cost. He is willing to collect taxes at gun point.

    • Fran

      I see the model of Haiti with Papa Doc’s family being well off while the whole country was starving. I guess that’s the future the Democrats in power see for them and theirs.

  • Fran

    I think the plan is for current public sector employees to trash state services and just do anything they can to hang onto their pensions. For this they need stupid, food-stamp dependant amnesties to vote for them.