Years of Liberal Dogma Have Spawned a Generation of Amoral, Uneducated, Welfare Dependent, Brutalised Youngsters

Max Hastings, Daily Mail (London), August 10, 2011

A few weeks after the U.S. city of Detroit was ravaged by 1967 race riots in which 43 people died, I was shown around the wrecked areas by a black reporter named Joe Strickland.

He said: ‘Don’t you believe all that stuff people here are giving media folk about how sorry they are about what happened. When they talk to each other, they say: “It was a great fire, man!” ’

I am sure that is what many of the young rioters, black and white, who have burned and looted in England through the past few shocking nights think today.

It was fun. It made life interesting. It got people to notice them. As a girl looter told a BBC reporter, it showed ‘the rich’ and the police that ‘we can do what we like’.

If you live a normal life of absolute futility, which we can assume most of this week’s rioters do, excitement of any kind is welcome. The people who wrecked swathes of property, burned vehicles and terrorised communities have no moral compass to make them susceptible to guilt or shame.

Most have no jobs to go to or exams they might pass. They know no family role models, for most live in homes in which the father is unemployed, or from which he has decamped.

They are illiterate and innumerate, beyond maybe some dexterity with computer games and BlackBerries.

They are essentially wild beasts. I use that phrase advisedly, because it seems appropriate to young people bereft of the discipline that might make them employable; of the conscience that distinguishes between right and wrong.

They respond only to instinctive animal impulses–to eat and drink, have sex, seize or destroy the accessible property of others.

Their behaviour on the streets resembled that of the polar bear which attacked a Norwegian tourist camp last week. They were doing what came naturally and, unlike the bear, no one even shot them for it.

A former London police chief spoke a few years ago about the ‘feral children’ on his patch–another way of describing the same reality.

The depressing truth is that at the bottom of our society is a layer of young people with no skills, education, values or aspirations. They do not have what most of us would call ‘lives’: they simply exist.

Nobody has ever dared suggest to them that they need feel any allegiance to anything, least of all Britain or their community. They do not watch royal weddings or notice Test matches or take pride in being Londoners or Scousers or Brummies.

Not only do they know nothing of Britain’s past, they care nothing for its present.

They have their being only in video games and street-fights, casual drug use and crime, sometimes petty, sometimes serious.

The notions of doing a nine-to-five job, marrying and sticking with a wife and kids, taking up DIY or learning to read properly, are beyond their imaginations.

Last week, I met a charity worker who is trying to help a teenage girl in East London to get a life for herself. There is a difficulty, however: ‘Her mother wants her to go on the game.’ My friend explained: ‘It’s the money, you know.’

An underclass has existed throughout history, which once endured appalling privation. Its spasmodic outbreaks of violence, especially in the early 19th century, frightened the ruling classes.

Its frustrations and passions were kept at bay by force and draconian legal sanctions, foremost among them capital punishment and transportation to the colonies.

Today, those at the bottom of society behave no better than their forebears, but the welfare state has relieved them from hunger and real want.

When social surveys speak of ‘deprivation’ and ‘poverty’, this is entirely relative. Meanwhile, sanctions for wrongdoing have largely vanished.

When Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith recently urged employers to take on more British workers and fewer migrants, he was greeted with a hoarse laugh.

Every firm in the land knows that an East European–for instance–will, first, bother to turn up; second, work harder; and third, be better-educated than his or her British counterpart.Who do we blame for this state of affairs?

Ken Livingstone, contemptible as ever, declares the riots to be a result of the Government’s spending cuts. This recalls the remarks of the then leader of Lambeth Council, ‘Red Ted’ Knight, who said after the 1981 Brixton riots that the police in his borough ‘amounted to an army of occupation’.

But it will not do for a moment to claim the rioters’ behaviour reflects deprived circumstances or police persecution.

Of course it is true that few have jobs, learn anything useful at school, live in decent homes, eat meals at regular hours or feel loyalty to anything beyond their local gang.

This is not, however, because they are victims of mistreatment or neglect.

It is because it is fantastically hard to help such people, young or old, without imposing a measure of compulsion which modern society finds unacceptable. These kids are what they are because nobody makes them be anything different or better.

A key factor in delinquency is lack of effective sanctions to deter it. From an early stage, feral children discover that they can bully fellow pupils at school, shout abuse at people in the streets, urinate outside pubs, hurl litter from car windows, play car radios at deafening volumes, and, indeed, commit casual assaults with only a negligible prospect of facing rebuke, far less retribution.

John Stuart Mill wrote in his great 1859 essay On Liberty: ‘The liberty of the individual must be thus far limited; he must not make himself a nuisance to other people.’

Yet every day up and down the land, this vital principle of civilised societies is breached with impunity.

Anyone who reproaches a child, far less an adult, for discarding rubbish, making a racket, committing vandalism or driving unsociably will receive in return a torrent of obscenities, if not violence.

So who is to blame? The breakdown of families, the pernicious promotion of single motherhood as a desirable state, the decline of domestic life so that even shared meals are a rarity, have all contributed importantly to the condition of the young underclass.

The social engineering industry unites to claim that the conventional template of family life is no longer valid.

And what of the schools? I do not think they can be blamed for the creation of a grotesquely self-indulgent, non-judgmental culture.

This has ultimately been sanctioned by Parliament, which refuses to accept, for instance, that children are more likely to prosper with two parents than with one, and that the dependency culture is a tragedy for those who receive something for nothing.

The judiciary colludes with social services and infinitely ingenious lawyers to assert the primacy of the rights of the criminal and aggressor over those of law-abiding citizens, especially if a young offender is involved.

The police, in recent years, have developed a reputation for ignoring yobbery and bullying, or even for taking the yobs’ side against complainants.

‘The problem,’ said Bill Pitt, the former head of Manchester’s Nuisance Strategy Unit, ‘is that the law appears to be there to protect the rights of the perpetrator, and does not support the victim.’

Police regularly arrest householders who are deemed to have taken ‘disproportionate’ action to protect themselves and their property from burglars or intruders. The message goes out that criminals have little to fear from ‘the feds’.

Figures published earlier this month show that a majority of ‘lesser’ crimes–which include burglary and car theft, and which cause acute distress to their victims–are never investigated, because forces think it so unlikely they will catch the perpetrators.

How do you inculcate values in a child whose only role model is footballer Wayne Rooney–a man who is bereft of the most meagre human graces?

How do you persuade children to renounce bad language when they hear little else from stars on the BBC?

A teacher, Francis Gilbert, wrote five years ago in his book Yob Nation: ‘The public feels it no longer has the right to interfere.’

Discussing the difficulties of imposing sanctions for misbehaviour or idleness at school, he described the case of a girl pupil he scolded for missing all her homework deadlines.

The youngster’s mother, a social worker, telephoned him and said: ‘Threatening to throw my daughter off the A-level course because she hasn’t done some work is tantamount to psychological abuse, and there is legislation which prevents these sorts of threats.

‘I believe you are trying to harm my child’s mental well-being, and may well take steps . . . if you are not careful.’

That story rings horribly true. It reflects a society in which teachers have been deprived of their traditional right to arbitrate pupils’ behaviour. Denied power, most find it hard to sustain respect, never mind control.

I never enjoyed school, but, like most children until very recent times, did the work because I knew I would be punished if I did not. It would never have occurred to my parents not to uphold my teachers’ authority. This might have been unfair to some pupils, but it was the way schools functioned for centuries, until the advent of crazy ‘pupil rights’.

I recently received a letter from a teacher who worked in a county’s pupil referral unit, describing appalling difficulties in enforcing discipline. Her only weapon, she said, was the right to mark a disciplinary cross against a child’s name for misbehaviour.

Having repeatedly and vainly asked a 15-year-old to stop using obscene language, she said: ‘Fred, if you use language like that again, I’ll give you a cross.’

He replied: ‘Give me an effing cross, then!’ Eventually, she said: ‘Fred, you have three crosses now. You must miss your next break.’

He answered: ‘I’m not missing my break, I’m going for an effing fag!’ When she appealed to her manager, he said: ‘Well, the boy’s got a lot going on at home at the moment. Don’t be too hard on him.’

This is a story repeated daily in schools up and down the land.

A century ago, no child would have dared to use obscene language in class. Today, some use little else. It symbolises their contempt for manners and decency, and is often a foretaste of delinquency.

If a child lacks sufficient respect to address authority figures politely, and faces no penalty for failing to do so, then other forms of abuse–of property and person–come naturally.

So there we have it: a large, amoral, brutalised sub-culture of young British people who lack education because they have no will to learn, and skills which might make them employable. They are too idle to accept work waitressing or doing domestic labour, which is why almost all such jobs are filled by immigrants.

They have no code of values to dissuade them from behaving anti-socially or, indeed, criminally, and small chance of being punished if they do so.

They have no sense of responsibility for themselves, far less towards others, and look to no future beyond the next meal, sexual encounter or TV football game.

They are an absolute deadweight upon society, because they contribute nothing yet cost the taxpayer billions. Liberal opinion holds they are victims, because society has failed to provide them with opportunities to develop their potential.

Most of us would say this is nonsense. Rather, they are victims of a perverted social ethos, which elevates personal freedom to an absolute, and denies the underclass the discipline–tough love–which alone might enable some of its members to escape from the swamp of dependency in which they live.

Only education–together with politicians, judges, policemen and teachers with the courage to force feral humans to obey rules the rest of us have accepted all our lives–can provide a way forward and a way out for these people.

They are products of a culture which gives them so much unconditionally that they are let off learning how to become human beings. My dogs are better behaved and subscribe to a higher code of values than the young rioters of Tottenham, Hackney, Clapham and Birmingham.

Unless or until those who run Britain introduce incentives for decency and impose penalties for bestiality which are today entirely lacking, there will never be a shortage of young rioters and looters such as those of the past four nights, for whom their monstrous excesses were ‘a great fire, man’.

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  • Anonymous

    Liberal policies have failed, yes. But whithout liberal policies you will still get riots. When you open the borders to mass immigration of different races and cultures, you will create tension and strife. Enoch Powell correctly assessed this.

    The races differ in intellectual aptitude, althletic ability, criminal propensity, temperaments, tastes in music, on and on….

    The U.K., like the U.S. fails to acknowledge this and instead vacillates between liberal and semi-liberal policies, neither of which can solve the problem.

  • olewhitelady

    Yes, the underclass has sporatically rioted all through history, and it was draconian measures that put it down. But, until recently, these people did not receive generous government welfare. They had to work, beg, steal, or barely exist in poorhouses. Most stayed busy working and had no time or energy for riots. Those who descended into crime met swift and brutal punishment.

    The article states that the rioters are only doing what comes naturally, like polar bears. Oh, it’s genetic, then, huh?

  • sbuffalonative

    Twitter page is calling for a “Day of Rage” on Sept. 17:

    http://twitter.com/#!/usdayofrage

  • neanderthalDNA

    Hilarious irony here. The black rioters are all over the electronics – stereos, tv’s, cell phones, etc. But books?

    http://tinyurl.com/bookssafe

    Marvelous insight into the nature of the subsaharan African and his true nature.

    Speaking of books and marvelous insights into the nature of the bete noir, here’s an oldy but a goody…

    http://tinyurl.com/paleorushton

  • Deirdre

    I’m surprised it was published. Because it might hurt someone’s feelings….

  • Anonymous

    No, “liberalism” isn’t solely to blame–it should be obvious that even arch-conservatives are guilty of the egalitarian myths. Let’s not forget that Northern White Evangelicals were the ones agitating the most vociferously to free the slaves in America. Yet by today’s measure, aside from the slavery issue, they’d be considered right wing extremists.

    In reality, the different races cannot, ultimately, peacefully co-exist in the same living space. One solution of course is recolonization, and that includes all Blacks back to Africa, not just the criminal element. After all, if Africa is ever going to reach its potential, it is going to need the best and the brightest, which includes Condoleezza Rice, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Cosby–and most of the NBA and NFL.

    The same is true for the Latinos–all of them must go, especially the most successful, such as JLo and Sonia Sontomayor–only they can provide the leadership necessary to bring up Latin America to its fullest potential so that no one living there would even think of moving to the United States.

    Of course that will never happen. Our only other choices are to move as far north as possible, or enforce racial apartheid ruthlessly. What other options are there left to us?

  • Alexandra

    @sbuffalonative

    Isn’t September 17 Constitution Day?

  • Jeddermann.

    “Not only do they know nothing of Britain’s past, they care nothing for its present”

    NOR do they want to know anything about Britain’s past, and if they did know something, would KNOW ONLY in the negative sense, about how their ancestors [a preponderance of the rioters] were taken from Africa as slaves and taken to the “New World” to make the British rich. Other than that, everything else about Britain to them is irrelevant.

  • Jeddermann.

    Max Hastings is one of the most prominent historians in the English language today. Highly respected and regarded. Well, at least on this forum. Among the rioters the name of Max Hastings is totally unknown and always will be.

  • NBJ

    This is the most hard hitting article I’ve read in a while, but why didn’t he just go all out and call for the end of all immigration, and mass deportations? I mean, what could it have hurt after calling his DOGS better behaved than these looters? I’m just saying..

  • Anonymous

    The first part was sheer beauty in print. Finally journalists are coming out of the woodwork to speak some long-overdue truth. However, the solution of “education” will not work, given the genetic material. There are really only two serious solutions: deportation or sterilization.

  • white advocate – Canada

    Other countries like to make fun of American conservatives for their Christian moral values. It all sounds so old-fashioned and corny. Maybe so, but look at the alternatives. If it wasn’t for phony left-wing professors getting away with their frauds and confusions, people wouldn’t have been so avid against old-time values. We see the result in England. Send some Christian missionaries over there. Skip Africa and work with white English. Put your overseas missionary resources in the mother country. Remember, England is the mother country of America. It would be a serious blunder to let England go.

  • Chris D.

    This is one case where libertarians are right — if you take away the free handouts the problem will fix itself. If the only choices available to low class blacks in Briton and the US were between working and starving, at least some would fill the lower rung jobs available so that immigrants would be less desirable to employers. Of course, many would riot when their freebies were taken away, but they’re going to riot and misbehave regardless since they are inherently incapable of maintaining civilization. Stop subsidizing NAM pathology with the welfare state, eradicate political correctness, and let the chips fall where they may. Within a generation, both nations could be moving in the right direction and might actually have a future other than that of a third world dystopia. I don’t believe any of this will actually happen, but it’s not impossible.

  • rockman

    I believe under old British law they would face hanging or deportation. Give them the choice.

  • HH

    The media in and out of the UK are positively twisting themsleves into KNOTS to avoid the racial component that lies dead-center of this whole mess. They seek out every white(or at least non-black) “anti-fa” hooligan they can find amidst the mayhem so they can say, “see, it’s not a racial thing.” Meanwhile, back in the land of reality, anyone with eyes can see that this is, directly and indirectly, ALL about race! The very policies of entitlement, appeasement, and gross permissiveness that hang over this meltdown are all born of the leftist efforts to coddle and make excuses for primitive and/or dysfunctional non-whites and the like.

    The non-natives are indeed getting restless – and we Whites had better be ready for what comes next!

  • Anonymous

    None of the authors suggestions will ever happen, even if public opinion changes course and we all agree with the author that these suggestions need implemented. Whites are afraid of black people. Of course, since public opinion hasn’t changed just yet, whites being afraid’just shows how conservatives masterminds have manipulated us with their evil, base, and ignorant plans and whites being afraid is seen as a sign of the level of racism they hold and proof that people of color are oppressed.

  • Anonymous

    BULL! What HAS happened is that years of teaching disrespect for authority through laxity, gift giving, white groveling, white shame, constant media put downs of whites and especially white males add up to permission to attack, demand, and destroy. Some low class whites think it is about them, but they are just ignorant of the larger picture. The colored don’t include them, and white hanger-ons are the ones being stripped, humiliated, raped and beat up. Smart whites wouldn’t be out in the street.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with most of the author’s reasoning here. I disagree with his conclusion that “only Education…can provide a way forward and out for these people.” After spending many words recording the precise ways in which the underclass refuses to be educated.

    No, the way forward is without them. No– the way out is The Way Out. Deportation of immigrant criminals & their families.

    Real sanctions must be exercised. Rampant criminality is not society’s failure, but the criminals. Remove them immediately. If not to their country of origin, then Diego Garcia, et al.

  • (AWG) Average White Guy

    Media spin.

    The iconic victim of the British race riots isn’t White. He’s Mohammed Ashraf Haziq, Malaysian.

    See typical story here ►

    The media wants us to believe the riots were not about non-Whites attacking Whites.

  • Californian

    Interesting, is it not, that the UK has had several generations of the welfare state, yet it has more class divide than ever. Of course one can point out that it has been liberalism which subsidizes all the pathologies listed in the article. Once again, liberalism is the real problem.

    Its frustrations and passions were kept at bay by force and draconian legal sanctions, foremost among them capital punishment and transportation to the colonies.

    Today the government policy is to transport the population of the (former) colonies to the UK. (Couldn’t resist making that crack!)

  • Anne in Oz

    The US Day of Rage is advertised as two non-violent protests which seem quite good actually, against the corruption of rigged elections where “We the People” are ignored via excessive campaign donations and excessive lobbyists in Washington. Sept 17 they are occupying Wall St and Oct 6 somewhere in DC.

    Haven’t looked into the details but despite the organisers specifying non-violence I won’t be surprised if some violence arises!

  • Benjamin

    I just read on the Drudge Report that several states are looking into the possibility that when a dozen to several hundred blacks attack only whites that It Might Possibly Be Racially Motivated!

    Wow, who would have thought?

    Racially motivated they say. Is that even possible?

    With the perpetrators being The Root Of Civilization according to what they are teaching your kids in school today?

  • Anonymous

    I became a Probation Officer before I had my children. Although the black population of the county was less than 8 percent, blacks committed about 95 percent of the crimes.

    When I began to read those child development and care books I realized what is wrong with blacks. They are stuck at the emotional level of an 18 month old baby. I want I want I need I need. They can’t be trained because they do not have the emotional and intellectual maturity to retain anything or learn anything.

    Food, drink, drugs, sex and hanging out screeching and howling is what they do.

    That is propably why so many black children injure and kill themselves because of their sheer disobedience. They are unable to understand that going up on the roof and jumping off or stuffing the baby into a clothes dryer is dangerus.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not an Alex Jones fan, but this report on the London riots is pretty good:

    http://goo.gl/4ti3m

  • Rat in a Maze

    Whites are afraid of black people.

    No, we’re not. We’re afraid of the punitive fines, hard time in prison and ruination of our professional careers if we fight back against blacks. Blacks are no threat to whites, it is those who control blacks, in positions of power, who threaten whites. Blacks are useful idiots doing their masters’ bidding in their war on whites and white America.

    The US Day of Rage WILL turn violent, count on it. Agents provocateurs and other subversives behind the scenes will use this opportunity to stir up the uneducated masses, knowing full well blacks and browns are full of rage against “white oppression” and vulnerable to Marxist slogans and claptrap.

    Blacks are being used as a FRONT for communist groups in England, France and the US. Blacks are violent frontline, useful idiots who will take the fall for the real powers safely behind the lines giving the orders.

    Blacks only know violence, mayhem and looting, zero about insurrection. They are being used against whites.

  • Bill Harzia

    “Anne in Oz,” you are exactly right. EVERY one of these protests here in the San Francisco Bay Area degenerates into a violent confrontation. Only the level of violence varies, according to the “cause” being protested. Scattered confrontations vs. mob violence; it’s only a matter of degree.

    If this “Day Of Rage” takes place in SF (and I’m sure it will; the “yobs” never let an excuse for a riot go to waste), it will be the mob violence end of the scale. Haven’t had a good fire in a while, don’t you know.

    the last time a black gang member got himself shot, they only trashed a few businesses and BART subway stations. This time, they’ll have seen how much REAL fun they can have, courtesy of their British fellow thugs.

  • GetBackJack

    What I find even more troubling is the fact that the English people seldom, if ever, blame their monarchy. As an American, I am well aware of the monarchy’s influence on English society even today. Do they really believe that their queen no longer rules? The very root of most of their problems (and those of the Western world) can be found in the City of London.

  • South African
  • Bantu Education

    In principle I agree with those calling for a shoot-to-kill policy in riots of this scale. However, since this is never going to be allowed in our so-called “democracies”, a more “humane” and imaginative solution is called for.

    I always felt sympathy for Israeli soldiers being sling-stoned by Arab rioters – yet whenever the Israelis justifiably responded with live fire the Arabs would milk every casualty for propaganda and garner sympathy from the leftist media and the vast “human-rights” industry.

    I thought, if the Israelis were being pelted at head height with potentially-deadly stones, they should reply with their own stone-throwing increased by a factor of 100. If I were a weapons engineer I would design a rapid-firing large calibre “pea-shooter” – a stone-firing gatling gun maybe! Crowd control authorities world-wide would buy it…!

    If such a machine were available it would have quickly put a stop to these latest London riots. The “gun” could be aimed at shin height and a few hundred 200mph stones raked across a whole crowd of rioters – most of those in the front ranks would be hit and go down on the floor where they could then be easily arrested. As soon as the mob sees the vanguard falling down in agony the camp followers would quickly scarper, as a Londoner would say.

    Being a mean bastard – if I were in charge I would fire another volley to hit the fleeing hordes in the back calf which might be just as painful if not more than a hit in the shin. Many would hobble away back to their hovels but they would have learned a lesson they would not quickly forget.

    Problem solved – teach the rioters a short and sharp but not deadly lesson

  • Laager

    About 160 years ago people in England who behaved like this (or even less criminally) were sent to Australia. They were left there never to return and formed the foundation of building a respectable nation.

    Today Somalia needs help.

    Capture the “English” criminals, prosecute and convict them, and send them to Somalia and never let them return to the UK.

    In about 100 years time there will be no need for Somalis to immigrate to the UK

    A win-win solution for everyone.

  • Anonymous

    After all, if Africa is ever going to reach its potential

    Am I missing something or has Africa always been on the geographical map as Britain, the US, and the rest of the Earth? They have the most natural resources of any continent in the world and do less with it. Has this race not been in existence as long as the European/American race? Have they not had more than enough advantages i.e., no inclimate weather to speak of, plenty of food, no need for shelter, no need for clothing? When do we stop cutting these people slack and say ‘you are on your own! You already have more resources to work with than anyone else– Do something with it by yourself! We refuse to take care of you any longer.’

  • Luke

    “13 — Chris D. wrote at 1:46 AM on August 11:

    This is one case where libertarians are right — if you take away the free handouts the problem will fix itself. ”

    What planet has Chris D. been living on? I remember back when that nauseating and pathetic, weak-kneed attempt was made by the vile and despicable Newt Gingrich following the ’94 Republicrat RINO revolution to engineer a total revamp on the Welfare and social entitlement systems. I used to still subscribe to my local paper back in those days, and I remember reading a full, two page article where some self-hating, guilt-ridden white liberal newspaper reporter trekked out to the outback of South Carolina, to find and interview the most pathetic appearing black welfare family they could find and ask them what their opinions were of the puny efforts by Newt & his gang of gutless RINOS to revise the welfare system and force these people to find some employment and start helping to support themselves.

    Guess what the welfare recipient told the reporter? It went something like this: “Folks down heah, we be willing to kill anyone who tries to take our welfare away from us.” I’m not kidding – that was the answer and the reporter actually printed it in the local newspaper.

    So, Chris D. How’s a problem like this going to fix itself, if these freebies are cut off, when the folks who collect them and who’ve collected them for 4 or 5 generations – and who’ve been coddled and courted by sleazy politicians of both stripes and in both parties, have an attitude like this?

    Answer: Ethno-states, Chris and the rest of the AR community. An exclusive white only ethno-state that specifically and forcibly prohibits residence of any sort by white self-hating liberals or by practitioners of anti-White Cultural Marxism.

    White liberals can beg for a place to squat in the black or other minority ethno-states.

    Any other idea, such as cutting these benefits off cold-turkey and we are going to see violence and riots and mayhem all across America that will make what’s happening in the UK look like a attractive vacation spot for White people. Don’t you think that our politicians, in their private conversations which are out of the range of the ADL/SPLC listening devices – talk about this and fully understand what sort of dangerous powder keg the liberal, anti-white left has created in America?

    I do know this: The answer to this problem isn’t to continue to succumb to ethnic intimidation by blacks and other minorities and to continue to pony up more and more of our rapidly dwindling financial resources in exchange for a ‘promise’ by minorities to behave themselves. The bank account is almost empty, and a permanent fix is what must become priority #1.

    Think “Ethno-States”. We cannot live and hope to survive as a race if we continue to share territory with these people.

    Oh, and let us be firm in our resolve on this issue. Whites who have self-hating White liberals in their families or who have white friends who suffer from this self-hate disease are going to have to cut their ties and say hasta-la-vista, baby.

  • Anonymous

    2 — olewhitelady wrote at 8:51 PM on August 10:

    “Yes, the underclass has sporatically rioted all through history, and it was draconian measures that put it down. But, until recently, these people did not receive generous government welfare. They had to work, beg, steal, or barely exist in poorhouses. Most stayed busy working and had no time or energy for riots. Those who descended into crime met swift and brutal punishment.

    The article states that the rioters are only doing what comes naturally, like polar bears. Oh, it’s genetic, then, huh?”

    I don’t want to discourage you, because in general, I support you, especially as a regular female poster. But you just generalize too much. In Europe’s history, revolts and uprising of serfs, slaves, and the poor have caused some of the most important changes to otherwise brutal, totalitarian rule. Often, it has gone too far, but these revolts and uprisings typically occur after decades or even generations of extreme abuse. The real issue in this current situation is NOT class, but race, and the problem of Diversity and Multicults creating mayhem through ridiculous immigration policies that deny basic cultural and racial truths.

    If we did have an all white society, I would be all for taking care of our least. It is the basic European peasant stock that has carried our race forward genetically, after all. NO future society of whites can ever hope to succeed if we base our community on the old, exploitative, feudal models, which pure capitalism is just an extension.

    Whites are going to really put on their thinking caps if we are serious about a future for our race.

  • Whiteplight

    “Their behaviour on the streets resembled that of the polar bear which attacked a Norwegian tourist camp last week. They were doing what came naturally and, unlike the bear, no one even shot them for it.”

    This is the problem; Even insightful commentors like him are not grasping the entire picture. He seems to be denying the main issue, which is that decades of importing non-Brits has enlarged a native underclass into an uncontrollable racial uprising inside Britain. In the recent past, we had working class white kids who would in every generation do their stint in gangs. But if you go back and look at them they were first, The well dressed “Teddy Boys” who loved rock and roll and getting a little out of hand. Then it was the Mods and Rockers, who would clash and get a bit out of hand, but under it all, they were just regular British kids getting some of the stimulation their daddies got during WW2. Occasional Poll Tax riots are a tradition, pretty much and soccer thugs were a small, contained problem by comparison. But Liberal policy, and in particular the Labour Party and Tony Blair intentionally swung the doors wide open to non-white immigration, just to irk their conservative enemies, with no care for the outcomes. Really it’s him and his compatriots who are to blame. Now, Britain has a intractable racial problem with a population too big to contain. It will break the government, the economy and society. I have been predicting for years that we are going to see the fate of the West played out in England,and this is just the start. While I don’t agree with attacking whites or being violently offensive as the initiator, the way the “Polar Bear” was, I can understand that that other polar bear was going after the system that allowed for things like the casual, daylight, public rapes of Norwegian women with no prosecution. I always find that Brits are really infested with the notion of the classes, and this writer to the point of racial unrealism. We’re in for a real rocky ride.

  • OldSchoolWhiteBroad

    People can blather on and on about psychological and sociological factors that are part of the “feral child” (love that!) syndrome. However, when you get to solutions, there’s only one answer that will actually work: GET TOUGH – as in, put these kids through US Marine-style (the OLD style!) training. Those who make it will probably be valuable citizens. Those who don’t, well, they don’t survive. More than one Marine recruit has died during basic training. It is rare but it DOES happen. With these kids, we don’t have any more time or resources to waste one them. Put up or shut up – and leave this world. We don’t need you as you are.

  • Anonymous

    12 — white advocate – Canada wrote at 12:26 AM on August 11:

    “Other countries like to make fun of American conservatives for their Christian moral values. It all sounds so old-fashioned and corny. Maybe so, but look at the alternatives. If it wasn’t for phony left-wing professors getting away with their frauds and confusions, people wouldn’t have been so avid against old-time values. We see the result in England. Send some Christian missionaries over there. Skip Africa and work with white English. Put your overseas missionary resources in the mother country. Remember, England is the mother country of America. It would be a serious blunder to let England go. ”

    Yes, let’s get those missionaries with their “love they enemy, turn the other cheek, love those who persecute you,” etc., ad nauseum, to point white Brits in the direction that will save them! What self-deluded garbage! It’s Christianity that helped create this problem, and in a big way. It’s Christian based generosity that underlies the immigration problems. Anyone who thinks that Christianity especially the missionary brand is going to save any white nation is again, deluding themselves because the very book they rely on for their inspiration tells them that the entire world is included, or needs to be included.

    No, if whites need any god, they need a fierce war god, like Odin. But we sure don’t need a religion that strips us of our identities and then tells us to be like children, like sheep.

  • CryHavoc

    Poster #16 says Whites are afraid of blacks. In a face to face encounter in a dark alley—sure. But I’ve always wondered if there isn’t a deeper fear in Whites; we fear a genocidal response born of the survival instinct may arise if we are seriously threatened as a race.

    As Whites, we’ve tried to become civilized. We’ve tried to become evolved human beings. We try to adhere to laws. But do we fear our basic nature? Do we fear what we might do if it seems we have to?

    Anybody with a more developed line of thought care to enlighten me?

  • Joe Webb

    Aside from Race, I am struck by the term “feral child.”

    The Liberal Universalist Relativism…yes…. all values are equal…can only lead to feral children since parents and other traditional authority have surrendered to the Liberal zeitgeist of Whatever.

    The only values left for Liberals are money values…study hard, get a good job, and buy a BMW. This works for the top 20% more or less, at least for a time, then anomie sets in. Funny, how that word has lost usage. In a Time of Anomie, the words that can describe it, are lost.

    For those without talent/cleverness, the same “values” of GTM, Get The Money, simply express themselves in other terms, theft , etc.

    The End of Liberalism is not going to be pretty, but we can enjoy it anyway.

    We could add to our lexicon, “feral races,” but that would be racist. Joe

  • Anonymous

    I talked with a friend last night who lives in Palo Alto, Calif. (Stanford University) and has two kids in Palo Alto’s more or less elite public schools…grammar and high school.

    She and her sophomore son said that cheating was normal in school. This is what is happening amongst our best and brightest.

    White kids cheat routinely on papers, exams, etc. Liberalism cannot set a standard because to do so privileges one standard over others, and that would be ultimately racist.

    How to instruct your kids now….don’t bother, for that would be Ageist, or Repressive, or Racist. Joe

  • Anonymous

    Well,the comments are now up to 38, and I saw nothing written from posters recognizing that a great number of Americans handed political power to Africans in the last presidential election ,the same thing happened in South Africa in 1994 when the African National Congress used White guilt and self loathing to take power from Whites there, of course the real number of Whites murdered there is covered up as much as possible because we can’t be allowed to know what is happening already in the U.S.and going to get much worse, did American Whites really believe it would be a good idea to hand power over to a race of people that hates us? Wonder if that moral superiority is wearing off with the emergence of flash mobs in so many cities, with no comments from the President or Attorney General?

  • MAJ

    To #32 – Exactly. A new country of whites must be created from the debris of what is left. No guilt-ridden liberals, Marxist lunatics, or academic invertebrates. Only whites who will advance the race. The key is being able to control the educational system and prevent what are basically thought crimes and propaganda from being pumped into pliable white children.

    To #37 – Baloney – whites aren’t afraid of blacks. Whites today are afraid of what would happen to their own lives or jobs if they somehow offend a poor, oppressed black. The attack by liberals and the MSM is far worse than a crazed animal with no brains. However, that is going to end real soon.

    Yes, to some degree whites may realize that a backlash would result in a rather dim and ugly fate for the blacks – who really have absolutely no chance should whites draw the line and say enough. Whites are generally civilized and empathetic – but have far greater survival skills and visceral power to draw on than other races – but slow to anger does mean intimidation – just intelligence.

  • white advocate – Canada

    @36. Here at AR there has been much debate for and against Christianity as it benefits white people. Look in the archives for 1996 and 1997. However that resolves itself in the long run, I am assuming we have little time beyond a few decades to turn things around for whites. We might not even have decades. This is no time to get fancy with theology. Christianity has a long tradition of being compatible with nationalism, a warrior ethic, and moral strictness.

    I don’t see much chance of an Odin based religion becoming dominant, and certainly not within the next few decades time frame.

  • MAJ

    Correction:

    I inadvertently left out a word on my post above (#41) – it should read:

    Whites are generally civilized and empathetic – but have far greater survival skills and visceral power to draw on than other races – but slow to anger does NOT mean intimidation – just intelligence.

  • Conan

    Excuses poluses.

    There were never feral child humans, until social welfare policies stole money from working people to support the sex fornicating of the indolent and its product.

    But they exist now, in in many miscegenations, and if you are white, that is european caucasion white bread, you better beware and ever wary among the coloreds and mulatoes, for they hate you to the core, and will butcher you and your family and laugh at your agony.

    Yes, arm yourself, and shoot back first.

    The coloreds are pack animals, they don’t have alpha males, just bisexual betas and don’t understand a John Wayne manly man,

    Protect yourself white bread, you are the fodder the beasts feed on.

  • Schadenfreude

    @South African:

    Excellent commentary on that link!

    I wasn’t aware of the extent to which the British government aided and abetted the ANC against South African Whites (I was aware of the statue of Nelson Mandela in Parliament Square):

    Here’s a fascinating excerpt:

    Britain provided a safe haven to the Marxist terrorist enemies of South Africa. The ANC headquarters was not in Moscow or Havana as one would expect. No…it was at 27 Patten Street London.

    British subjects also actively aided and abetted the ANC to smuggle weapons into South Africa and to attack white South Africans. In the TRC hearings about the bombing of the ANC office in London (12th of March 1982) by the SA government it came out that it was in retaliation for ‘the involvement of British subjects in the ANC rocket attack on the Voortrekkerhoogte military base near Pretoria in 1981.’

    To put the cherry on top and kick the white South Africans in the teeth one last time, the British erected a statue of the convicted Marxist terrorist and mass murderer, Nelson Mandela, on Parliament Square, London.

    Not a single Britain who was there in 2007 cried as much as one tear for the innocent white women and children killed by the ANC terrorists.

    Yes, Schadenfreude!

    And it’s no wonder (as you write): that South African Facebook users are unsympathetic to the UK

    @27 “GetBackJack”:

    Monarchy, Nation-States, And The Failed Reign of “Elizabeth The Useless

    Superb article by Dr. Sean Gabb on QE II’s role in the demise of England.

    http://goo.gl/1jaIu

  • Anonymous

    Cameron and his cronies are now bring the BNP and EDL to the forefront of this rampage. He is calling them “the sickest of the lot” Why? They didn’t start it, and the only thing that they have done is react to seeing their cities being burned and trashed by mobs of overwhelmingly black and mixed race youths. Luckily, I think most of the British public have seen through it. Even the usually wishy-washy Guardian readers are waking up to the elephant in the room.. Look at their comments page.

  • Anonymous

    “Whites are afraid of blacks”.

    Not true. More like we are afraid of losing our jobs, careers and going to prison for fighting back. If none of these factors were at play, it would be a different story.

  • Anonymous

    To be sure, Britain has always had a fairly sizable dysfunctional white underclass. But how adding another even more dysfunctional BLACK underclass into the mix was anything but a disaster I fail to see. Why make the problem worse?

  • Question Diversity

    46:

    Cameron and his cronies are now bring the BNP and EDL to the forefront of this rampage. He is calling them “the sickest of the lot” Why? They didn’t start it…

    Remember the Oldham riots in 2001? Mostly South Asian rioters. Official Britain has all but rewritten history to claim that the BNP started or somehow provoked the riots, the supposed reason being that the elections were a few months away. True, the BNP candidate got 11% of the vote and finished in 3rd place in one Oldham constituency, and the left claims that that’s proof that the BNP was behind it all. The realty is that South Asians rioted, and whites reacted by voting BNP.

  • white is right, black is whack

    47 — Anonymous wrote at 4:18 PM on August 12:

    “Whites are afraid of blacks”.

    Not true. More like we are afraid of losing our jobs, careers and going to prison for fighting back. If none of these factors were at play, it would be a different story.

    I’m tired of this doom and gloom. It’s always negative. “Oh, we are victims. We just can’t help ourselves.” You sound like the black nationalists who whine about how bad whites supposedly treat them, but at least they are willing to stand up for themselves. You have to stand up to bullies or they will control you. If we didn’t defy the British Empire, we’d still be under their rule. If Reagan didn’t stand up to Gorbachev, they’d still have the Berlin Wall. And if George McFly didn’t stand up to Biff, he’d still been the whimpy, unconfident nerd he was before Marty McFly went back in time. It was illegal and could cost you your job if you defied them or criticized them. Come on, whites. We need to stand up for ourselves and people we care about, even if it’s costly. Would you be willing to let a criminal, of any race, harm you or your family? Would you really say, “Oh, I’d stop those thugs from raping my wife/killing my kids/attacking that old lady if there weren’t those laws preventing me from doing so.” It’s better to be judged by 12 than buried by six. Always say that to yourself. If one white person takes a stand against this anti-white bigotry from anyone (even self-hating whites), more and more will admire you for your courage (especially if you don’t back down!) and it will spread like wildfire.

  • Laager

    @32

    “Answer: Ethno-states. An exclusive white only ethno-state that specifically and forcibly prohibits residence of any sort by white self-hating liberals or by practitioners of anti-White Cultural Marxism. White liberals can beg for a place to squat in the black or other minority ethno-states.”

    This is what the South African Homelands Policy (= US Indian Reservations) was attempting to achieve. Protect the cultures of the 9 black tribes in their own independent territories.

    Through the United Nations the entire world mobilised against South Africa and had this policy declared “A Crime Against Humanity”

    Good luck with your endeavours.