Posted on August 10, 2011

These Riots Were About Race. Why Ignore the Fact?

Katharine Birbalsingh, Telegraph (London), August 7, 2011

What colour is Mark Duggan? Mark Duggan is the man who was shot dead by the police on Thursday in Tottenham. The Tottenham riots last night were sparked when people protested his death. This morning, I first heard of the riots on the radio, then on the television. I read articles on the internet. But oddly, no one would say what colour Mark Duggan was. No one would say the unsayable, that the rioters were, I suspect on the whole, black. Then, finally, Toby Young’s Telegraph blog post on the riots was published. Is Toby Young the only journalist out there who will dare say that these riots are about race?

Still, one paper did carry a photo of Mr Duggan. When I saw the photo, it confirmed what I knew instinctively: black youths once again have set London alight.

Some of the black kids I used to teach will tell you that the riots are absolutely justified. A number of adults would agree with them. Everywhere I read that the protest was understandable because “people are very angry”.

I’d like to know what they’re angry about. Mark Duggan is dead. He was shot by the police in a shootout. Duggan was in a minicab and shots were fired from both the cab and the police elsewhere. A police officer was hurt in the incident and a bullet was found lodged in a police radio. Either Duggan was shooting at the police or the driver of the minicab was. Either Duggan was in the wrong place at the wrong time and his death is a terrible tragedy–he was caught in the crossfire–or he shot at the police and the police defended themselves. Whatever the explanation, the police did not kill this man in cold blood.

Yet, a friend of Duggan who gave her name as Niki, 53, said marchers had wanted “justice for the family” and “something had to be done”. She said some of them lay in the road to make their point. “They’re making their presence known because people are not happy. This guy was not violent. Yes, he was involved in things but he was not an aggressive person. He had never hurt anyone.”

I wonder what “involved in things” means? I also wonder whether the police officer who was hurt at the scene believes Mark Duggan never hurt anyone. “Something had to be done”? She makes it sound as if the police are killing black people every other weekend and finally someone decided to take a stand.

At school I remember watching a presentation given to the kids by Trident, the Metropolitan Police Service unit set up to investigate and inform communities of gun crime in London’s black community. I didn’t know what Trident was then, and it struck me that all of the photos of people shot (the idea was to scare the kids) were black. So at the end, I approached one of the policemen and asked him what percentage of those involved in gun crime were black. I kid you not, but my question made this thirty-something white man who was, after all, trained to deal with the black community and its issues, turn pink.

He explained that about 80 per cent of gun crime took place in the black community. I smiled uncomfortably. But no, he said, it was worse than that. Then he told me that 80 per cent was black on black gun crime, and that of the remaining 20 per cent about 75 per cent involved at least one black person: black shooting white, or white shooting black. I pushed to know more. While he kept saying his stats were crude and he didn’t have scientific numbers, on the whole the whites who were involved in these shootings tended to be from Eastern Europe.

Was any of this ever mentioned in their presentation? Of course not. Just like the news about the Tottenham riots doesn’t mention race either.

Problems cannot be addressed unless people are willing to tell the truth. As with so many other things in this country, we stick our heads in the sand and refuse to speak out about it.

30 responses to “These Riots Were About Race. Why Ignore the Fact?”

  1. (AWG) Average White Guy says:

    If they admit it’s about race

    they will have deal with it racially.

    Few are willing to do that.

    White people fear nothing more than to be labeled “racist.”

    They will live a lie, allow themselves the be stolen from, beaten and often killed rather than risk being called a ‘racist.’

    The irony of it all: It is not racism to acknowledge black crime and violence.

  2. Anonymous says:

    With one noticable exception, the people pictured in the “Clean-up Crew” are all White.

    Isn’t that always the way? I saw photos of the men that served on that downed Navy SEAL Helicopter, and with two exceptions, every one was White. RIP, Navy SEALS and their Helicopter Crew.

    If the White Brits don’t take their heads out of the sand, they will be buried in the ground.

  3. sbuffalonative says:

    Let’s face a fact.

    Even when this cycle of riots subsides or is suppressed, the racial tensions will not end regardless of how many peace festivals they celebrate.

    In 1981, England had the Brixton riots. It took 20 years for the London riot but it happened and they are far larger and more wide spread.

    Whatever happens, the racial anger and hatred will only intensify leading to bigger riots in the future. The problem is not going away. It will only simmer in the background behind the smiles and pleasant talk about how England has moved on.

    As a side note, I have noticed that the media has blamed these riots on the lack of jobs. For my entire life, I have always read that Briton has had an intractable unemployment problem with abled-bodied people ‘on the dole’. ‘On the dole’ is actually phrase I associate with England.

    Why, if England has always had an unemployment problem, are they bringing in more people? Can a Brit fill me in? Am I wrong about the unemployment problems in Briton?

  4. olewhitelady says:

    Britain may be just learning about confrontations with large black mobs, but the latter have been a problem in the U.S. since slave days. Nothing is more alarming to white Americans than the spector of out-of-control blacks surging into their neighborhoods. This fear is possibly the biggest reason why the liberal media is going to absurd lengths to hide the very fact that throngs of blacks are seeking out whites. When the MSM feels compelled to mention the mobs, they usually accompany the stories with photos of whites and insist it’s “just kids”. There is absolutely no way that Obama will be reelected unless he shows white people that he recognizes the problem and does something about it. And then he has only a slim chance. He has an anti-white AG whom he never criticizes. He socializes with antisocial rappers who glorify black crime and decadence. He appears to be as incompetent as David Dinkins and Ray Nagin.

    There’s beltway gossip that he may choose not to run again. That would be the most patriotic thing he could do.

  5. Tim in Indiana says:

    The face of the rioter contrasted with those of the cleanup crew (with one black face visible) speaks volumes.

    I think the squeamishness about mentioning race is due to two factors:

    1. Pathetically, the UK is even more PC than the US;

    2. They don’t have the excuse of slavery in the UK; in fact, the blacks were brought over largely as an example of white largesse, not as slaves, as in the US. So what an embarrassment these riots are to PC dogma, which blames everything on a “history of slavery,” etc.

  6. WR the elder says:

    If the Britons are ever to admit to themselves that the riots are, indeed, black riots, don’t assume this will lead to any sensible policy. To the contrary, people will wring their hands, ask what wickedness of whites brought blacks to such a low level, and institute more of the idiot social policies that we see here in America — more affirmative action, tax money paid to black radicals for “community development”, set asides for blacks, teaching children about “white skin privilege”, and so on.

  7. passingthru says:

    Nice to see this article appear in a major paper, but the reporter appears to be part Indian from her picture and her last name, so she’s allowed to say stuff like this. It’s a shame native Brits couldn’t do the same.

  8. John L. says:

    I know that in this City on the West Coast of Canada the efforts to obscure the Racial and Ethnic aspect of these Riots has been considerable. This inability of the Media to deal with unpleasant Ethnic issues has been increasing. The main message that has been propogated has been “the Rioters have been diverse”. Also, I believe They have been trying to highlight White rioters and hide Black Ones. Also, When They talk about race it is about Black grievances.

    I actually find that the CBC here has been better on this Subject than the commercial Media.

    These riots have been interesting in that They show how Ethnic Communities behave in tense Racialized situations.

  9. Mark says:

    This woman tends to speak quite a bit of sense; however, she is able to because of her ethnicity. As a white, middle-class English male if I stated similar views I could lose my job, face possible hate-crimes, receive harassment from the local constabulary or County Council or simply be ostracised from my local community. My country is a sham democracy where you are allowed free speech only if the authorities agree with it.

  10. Martel says:

    IMO the only good definition of “racist” is someone who automatically thinks he or she is automatically “better” (in some sense) than any person of another color (AEBE) just because of skin color or ancestry. Most white people by far are not racists, and it is foolish to be afraid of being called a racist for simply stating what one has reason to believe is the truth. Just say what is true when the occasion arises and dismiss the labels and tell the name callers they are just name calling the truth.

  11. Detroit WASP says:

    “7 — passingthru wrote at 9:25 PM on August 10:

    Nice to see this article appear in a major paper, but the reporter appears to be part Indian from her picture and her last name, so she’s allowed to say stuff like this. It’s a shame native Brits couldn’t do the same.”

    Only minorities are allowed to be experts on other minorities. If someone like Jared Taylor wants to make a comment in “main-stream media” they turn him down.

  12. Anonymous says:

    “Why, if England has always had an unemployment problem, are they bringing in more people? Can a Brit fill me in? Am I wrong about the unemployment problems in Briton?”

    No, you’re not wrong, and it’s a good question. The answer is the same reason that many States promote the in-flow Mexican illegals notwithstanding that they have double digit unemployment rates: people have been so brain-washed by the P.C. thought police that they can’t recognize the truth staring them in the face.

  13. Anonymous says:

    It is difficult to get a sense of the true racial make-up of the rioting population. The only photo on the BBC website of a rioter whose face was exposed was — predictably — that of a white man. Most of the news reports don’t mention race at all, and those few that do make it a point of saying that there are both black and white rioters, although never mentioning the proportions. I also wonder who is being considered as “white” in such reports. I would not be surprised if the many of the rioters being described as white are immigrants from North Africa or the middle east.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Yes, Europeans in general are far more brainwashed concerning race realism than Americans are–and that shouldn’t be surprising considering that up until recently they haven’t had non-Whites in their midst in any significant numbers.

    It’s often said that “racism” is born of ignorance–that only people who truly don’t understand another race can be racist. That’s ironic considering that Southern Whites, who have had the most day-to-day experience living around Blacks are considered the most “racist” by the liberal media.

    No, in reality, only those who have had the most experience with Blacks are the most “racist”. They know exactly what they are dealing with and how best to deal with it. All these deluded Whites who cried about Apartheid in South Africa are now getting a little taste of reality–and the shape of things to come.

    There are far worse things in this world than to be called a “racist”–and a couple of them are being raped and/or murdered because you’re too worried about being called a “racist”.

  15. Aux Armes Citoyens says:

    5 — Tim in Indiana wrote at 9:18 PM on August 10:

    “They don’t have the excuse of slavery in the UK; in fact, the blacks were brought over largely as an example of white largesse, not as slaves, as in the US. So what an embarrassment these riots are to PC dogma, which blames everything on a “history of slavery, etc.”

    No, but they can always blame colonialism. Whites will always find an excuse for Black behavior rather than face the truth that there can never be a harmonious cohabitation between Blacks and Whites.

  16. Fritz says:

    When I logged on today I was struck by a news headline saying the riots were prompting “soul-searching” about these underprivliged youths. It sounds like the same response we took in America to Black riots in the sixties. Build them some cheap housing. Give them jobs they’re incapable of performing. Hand out more food stamps and other freebes. Maybe then, they won’t act up so much. That approach was a mistake here and will be a mistake there too. What they need to do in the UK is stomp these thugs down. Teach them that uncivil behavior has harsh consequences, not rewards. Don’t pamper these bullies. Fear is the only thing bullies respond to. If Brits don’t do whatever they have to to put fear into these thugs, they will have to learn to live in fear themselves.

  17. Anonymous says:

    The girl’s T-shirt should say “Looters are Black”.

  18. William says:

    Unfortunatly members of the “White underclass”, those left behined after the “White flight” of the White middle classes did participate in opportunistic looting. Their behaviour can be explained in terms of being deculturated by the usual liberal/progressive/ethno-marxist dogmas and them just tagging along with the opportunities presented themselves.

    Additionally there is something the writer Christopher Lasch called the “revolt of the elites” in which the higher classes have abandoned any interest in the lower classes in favour of globalisation, immigration (for cheap labour) and associating with the elites of other races. The supposed middle classes then often ‘status seek’ by sharing some of the upperclass values.

    This is often combined with loads of liberal/progressive counter cultural dogmas, ie status seeking by associating with the counter cultural ‘academic’ works of progressive’s. (Which is why they accuse those of disagreeing with them as ‘ignorant’ ie were are ignorant of Facoult or theories of “White privedlege”).

    Either way we need to understand and explain the behaviur of the White underclass since this is what our opponents will latch on to.

  19. rjf101 says:

    This was printed in the Telegraph? I know the writer was a minority (sounds like an Indian) woman, but still, if minorities can get away with laying out the truth so clearly, it cannot be long before white Britons can and will do the same, even in major publications such as the Telegraph.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Why, if England has always had an unemployment problem, are they bringing in more people? Can a Brit fill me in? Am I wrong about the unemployment problems in Briton?

    And why is it being done in the U.S.?

  21. R CROSS says:

    You are quite right,there is a wholesale refusal to acknowledge that these are race riots,even on various blogs,my comments have been deleted because i said as much,but to admit this would force these people to take a stance,which they refuse to do,they simply wish to sit behind thier keybords and be absolutely perfectly blameless,we are human,we make mistakes,but to do nothing,to say nothing because we may be wrong,is probably worse,those that never make mistakes,never learn anything.

  22. HH says:

    The whole foundation of what passes for modern “race-relations” is essentially for Whites to religiously pretend not to see what they clearly see, or know what they obviously know, and dutifully and politely feign shock and outrage whenever the realities of race(which they also physically avoid at all costs)are thrust into the spotlight! The mass denial of the often brutual realities of race(up to and including those who meekly go along with the “race-is-a-social-construct” cannard) is a phenomenon that may never be 100% explained, but its consequences are as disasterous as they are, at least somewhat, inexplicable.

    In other words, we continue lie to ourselves at our own peril!

  23. Kenelm Digby says:


    You are entirely correct.Britain has a massive, intergenerational and intractable unemployment problem, and as had for around 40 years.Put simply, it never really got over the ‘oil shock’ of 1973.

    Strangely enough the bosses’ party in Britain, the right-wing Tories have been the toughest on immigration control.Under Mrs Thatcher immigration was pared down to the legally required minimum (even that was too much though).

    Believe it or not it was the ‘workers’ party, Labour, that was stupid enough to follow the prevailing globalist,’neo-liberal’ meme of ‘free immigration’, the complete morons in charge were silly enough to think that it would boost ‘growth’ just like the swivel-eyed ideologues in ‘The Economist’ and ‘WSJ’ recommended.You see, the way to show that you are ‘clever’ if you are a British politician is to read the economist.

    Anyway, the fact is that post mass immigration the British economy has contracted at the worst rate in 90 years.

    Strangely enough a supposedly socialist and marxist-tinged party had apparently never heard of the notion of the ‘reserve army of labor’ – whih is the basis of all marxist theorizing.

    Strange times indeed.

  24. (AWG) Average White Guy says:

    It’s a familiar pattern:

    Blacks riot.

    Whites respond with a peace and harmony rally.

  25. Anonymous says:

    We have to face a depressing fact. The vast majority of whites will remain in denial about the harsh realities of race and racial differences until the bitter, brutal end for our people in America and the White West in general.

    The only thing that can save us is a relatively large, fanatical minority of our people developing a strong, cohesive unity and collectivist mindset on the race issue and acting in virulent defense of our interests.

    Right now we whites are losing…badly. There’s still hope. But little time.

    Also, did anybody read Ann Coulter’s current column? She blames the British welfare state for the riots. She says whites partook in some of the rioting, looting, etc. While that may be the case, it’s a great example of denying the reality that the overwhelming majority of the savage criminals were non-white beauts from the Third World.

    I guess for many whites, seeing the rare white criminal in the violent mob, lets them continue to live in the delusional mental la-la land they inhabit that the racial ticking timebomb we’re sitting on isn’t really all that bad.

    And Ann Coulter is to real politics what the WWE is to real sports. (No offense intended…to the WWE.)

  26. Pat says:

    No. 7 – passingthru – Katharine Birbalsingh was born in New Zealand of West Indian parents and raised in Canada. She has much teaching experience in England and addressed the Conservative Conference last year on the (dire) state of British Education. She is easy to find on Google if you are interested. It must also be noted that No. 9 – Mark – is spot on!

  27. Anonymous says:

    Perhaps the curse of Ham? Can you say that anymore? You see He placed them in the their home but somebody stupdily took them out of it and this is the punishment end result.

  28. Realist says:

    It’s obvious that the rioters are black violent anti-white racists. The fundamental core of black identity, ideology, and motivation is hatred toward whites. This is foundational and forms the wellspring of all black thinking and motivation.

    I made it a point to listen to Neal Boortz and Rush Limbaugh yesterday to get their take on the riots. Although Boortz is a notorious kisser of black behinds, in the past he has been open and critical of black behavior, especially their criminality during “spring break”. Rush is rarely critical of generic criminal black behavior and black racism.

    Both Boortz and Limbaugh copped out on the UK riots. The former twisted himself into contortions to come up with an explanation other than race. Limbaugh was more to the point concerning the cause; socialism.

    This lets both off the race hook, although their reasoning is disingenuous and dangerous. Once again blacks are excused and the problem not confronted.

    If it were as Limbaugh and Boortz say, then the UK should be in constant turmoil because they have many underclass whites who are not coddled by the fools and idiots in the British welfare system as are minorities.

    Except at soccer games and in N-Ireland, when was the last majority white uprising? When was the last time whites rioted and specifically targeted blacks in the UK?

    The critical lesson for us about the UK riots is that there is a saturation point beyond which acceptable black behavior cannot be bought. In the UK, minorities, especially blacks, are placed above everyone else and given special privileges. Yet this is not enough, their racism and hatred of whites eventually erupts.

    We in the US have bought off blacks since the days of LBJ the Stupid. In general:

    a. Blacks can vote as often as they wish,

    b. Blacks don’t have to work or pay for their large families,

    C. Blacks can live in section 8 or the projects,

    D. Blacks are glorified by stupid white people for their coolness and athleticism,

    E. Blacks get preferences in education,

    F. Blacks represent about 40% of all government workers (according to a poster on this site),

    G. Blacks have special districts gerrymandered for them to insure black faces are at the table,

    H. Blacks have dumb white people voting to put a black president in office to buy off black hostility a little longer,

    I. Blacks have been given free access to white women,

    J. Blacks have been given freedom from prosecution for hate crimes,

    K. Blacks have been able to hamstring the police who patrol their hoods into looking the other way out of fear of a PC violation,

    L. Blacks have been given the green light to rape white women at will. Although they often go to prison for this, it seems a price worth paying to get back at whitey.

    M. Blacks have conditioned whites to never say NO to them.

    Even with all the above and more, we have blacks in the US attacking whites daily out of race hate.

    The extortion whites have paid over the years has reached a point where it is no longer effective. Blacks and their racism can’t be bought off any longer.

    The big one is coming to white America. Prepare.

  29. Anonymous says:

    When living in a society of lies, you have to go low tech to get the truth out there. Graffiti is powerful. Signs taped on telephone poles. The truth always comes out.

  30. Save Hugh the Manatee, not humanity! says:

    Olewhitelady. That’s an interesting point about him not seeking re-election. My Father and I were dicussing this very idea the other day. He thinks Obama should resign from office, because he isn’t running the country on what he campaigned on. From a purely political platform, that is true. But did people (especially blacks and liberals) really believe otherwise? Yeah he was left of Bush 2, but that’s like saying downtown Cleveland is safer than downtown Detroit.

    Only because there are more hoodlums in Detroit per square mile than in Cleveland. But the gangs still act the same. Politicians still are acting the same, because they only kowtow to one color: green