Birmingham Riots: Intense Anger After Deaths of Three Young Men

Riazat Butt and Martin Wainwright, Guardian (London), August 10, 2011

Community leaders in Birmingham are working all-out to calm intense anger in the city’s British Asian community over the deaths of three young men who were rammed by a carload of suspected looters.

West Midlands police arrested a man near the scene and recovered a vehicle, which forensics experts are examining. They later launched a murder inquiry.

Groups of residents in Winson Green, the inner-city area where the men were killed as they tried to protect local businesses in the early hours of Wednesday, openly warned of inter-communal violence if the murder inquiry fails to produce rapid results.

Their anger was passed on by the local Labour MP for Ladywood, Shabana Mahmood, and the Bishop of Aston, Rt Rev Anthony Watson, who joined a meeting at Dudley Road mosque, which locals claimed was on looters’ hitlist of targets where money might be found. The victims, brothers Shazad Ali and Abdul Mussavir, 32 and 30, and Haroon Jahan, 21, were among some 80 young men who turned out after a gang tried to ransack the nearby Jet petrol station on Monday night.

The bishop warned of possible reprisals and events “potentially having an ugly race dimension”. Shortly after he spoke, a screaming and swearing African-Caribbean woman challenged a group of British Asians in a side street off Dudley Road, saying: “Your attitude is how riots start,” before a friend bundled her into a car and drove off.

Another group of British Asian men said they had seen the fatal incident, which was over in seconds but saw the victims flung into the air as a black Audi rammed into them. One, who declined to give his name, said: “Of course it was deliberate. No way was it an accident. The driver went on to the pavement and rammed them. He knew what he was doing.”

He said that four carloads of young African-Caribbeans had cruised down Dudley Road and there had been no doubt about what they were planning. He said that he had given evidence to the police.

“These were bright young guys we’ve lost,” he said. “They knew the meaning of work and got themselves decent jobs. The brothers had a carwash which was another business which might have been targeted, and Haroon worked as a mechanic in a garage.

“They were well-known round here. One of them only got married in March and his wife was expecting their first child in four months’ time.”

The bishop said that extended families were part of a very strong network in the community–he had met Haroon’s uncle and older brother–which added to the strength of feelings.

Haroon’s father Jahan joined appeals for calm, holding a photograph of his son in the doorway of his home at Winson Green. He said: “He was trying to help his community and he has been killed.

“He was a very well-liked kid. I can’t describe to anybody what it feels like to lose a son. He was the youngest of three, and anything I ever wanted done, I would always ask Haroon to sort it out for me.

“A day from now, maybe two days from now, the whole world will forget and nobody will care.”

Calling for calm and no attempt at revenge, he said: “I don’t blame the government, I don’t blame the police, I don’t blame nobody. It was his destiny and his fate, and now he’s gone.”

Long queues of friends and relatives waited outside the house to pay their respects as other family members spoke of the tragedy. Numbers increased in the early afternoon, in spite of the onset of rain which police hoped would deter a third night of violence.

Sobia Nazia, a cousin to the brothers, said: “They were brothers to everybody. They used to look out for everyone. They were heroes. I heard people describing them on Facebook as brothers to one and all.

“People who only just knew of them haven’t slept all night. It’s made a huge impact, more than we thought.”

Another mourner embraced Sobia and the victims’ younger sister who was welcoming mourners into the house, and said in Urdu: “They died martyrs.”

The sister was too upset to reply, but Sorbia said firmly: “We don’t want anything more to happen–just the culprits brought to justice. We don’t want other families to suffer. It’s the youth. They have no knowledge, they have no jobs and they are bored.”

Feelings have also been inflamed by an alleged 20-minute delay before an ambulance arrived, with other locals saying that police riot vans had got in the way. Frantic efforts to resuscitate the men failed and two died at the scene. The third died shortly afterwards at the nearby City hospital.

Other men said that they had been told by overstretched police to protect their own businesses. He said: “They were too busy looking after all the big places in the centre, chasing the mob all night rather than cracking down.”

For the second day running, British Asian businesses in areas such as Soho Road, the bazaar-like mile of shops in Handsworth, were guarded by large numbers of men.

The incident plunged England’s second city into fresh tension after a night which saw sporadic raids on shops but a much lower level of violence than on Monday night. A determined attempt by a fluid mob of some 200 looters to break into the Bull Ring centre was quickly foiled, partly thanks to fences and four privately-hired dog teams.

Over £500,000 damage was done on Monday to Emporio Armani in the Mailbox shopping centre, where security men with fire extinguishers kept looters out of Harvey Nichols.

More than 80 arrests were made on Tuesday and 19 men appeared in court in the city on Wednesday morning.

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  • Tom S.

    I never thought I’d live to see the day that “British Asians” and “African-Carribeans” would be fighting on the streets of London. But yet its pounded in to us that diversity is a “strength”. They’re basically saying to not believe what you see, just believe what we tell you to see.

  • Anonymous

    The sister was too upset to reply, but Sorbia said firmly: “We don’t want anything more to happen—just the culprits brought to justice. We don’t want other families to suffer. It’s the youth. They have no knowledge, they have no jobs and they are bored.”

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    For crying out loud! Will people ever stop mouthing that nonsense! That is all we hear from the media and now from one of the victims family?

    “They have no jobs” she says..THEY do not want a JOB to begin with and never did. They are AFRICANS!

    “They are bored”..now that really takes the cake! Gee, I am bored today so I think I will go on a rampage and kill people and burn down the city..okay, Sorbia?

  • Rob

    Oh yeah, ain’t multiculturalism grand?

  • ATBOTL

    There was a black vs. Pakistani riot in Birmingham a few years ago in which an innocent black man minding his business was murdered. It didn’t receive a lot of media coverage.

  • Jeddermann.

    “I never thought I’d live to see the day that ‘British Asians’ and ‘African-Carribeans’ would be fighting on the streets of London.”

    The English prior to WW2 had the reputation as being the MOST law abiding persons on earth. During those many years since 1945 the English have changed for the worse? I just cannot understand what it is why this is so? Can someone clue me in? I am just at such a loss to understand all this? Of course everyone understand I speak facetiously!

  • John Anders

    The NY Times confirms that the man driving the car was black.

  • RegvlvsSeradly

    How are these “British Asians” (which includes Turks, Kurds, and many others who are mostly Moslem.) not being charged with hate-crmes, including the use of terror against the “raceless” (black) hordes.

  • Kenelm Digby

    Of course, it was deiberate Labour Party policy to abolish all immigration controls in order ‘to make Britain more multicultural’ (Google ‘Andrew Neather immigration’).

    It was part of their plan to abolish Britain’s White English majority, destroying it just for the sake of destroying it (THEY are the real vandals and destroyers).

    Anyhow, what we are seeing in Birmingham is the fruit of these policies.There are very few Whites actually left in Birmingham.It’s divided between blacks and pakistanis – who hate each other.It is a literal in the marrow dagger-eyed hatred to the death – that’s why that black deliberately and cold-bloodedly with no excuse murdered those pakistanis.

    In turn the pakis absolutely hate, loath and revile the blacks, whom they see (rightly) as nothing but a race of thieves.

    If we see no real, horrible race war between black and paki in Birmingham in the nest few days, it will certainly erupt in the future.

    It will be bloody and atrocities will be committed.I think it will resemble Bosnia in its brutality.

    But “ah” say the Labour Party, ‘diversity is sooo enriching and will save Britain’.

  • Uncle Bob

    All because “they are bored”??? Sure am glad none of my friends, relatives or myself were like this when we were young and, sometimes, “bored.” We had no money to spend, but made things out of what we could find, went hiking, cycling, did various things. Most of the kids I knew did the same. But then I guess that’s the nature of White minds, almost all of them, anyway: think and create. And the nature of black ones is the opposite.

  • aj

    Typical black tactics, it is always a sucker punch, a mob beat down, a drive by, never ever is it a fair fight.

    There is no side in this fight to support. Blacks are worse than Asians, but blacks are just content to rob and loot and collect welfare while Asians in London just want to ethnically cleanse huge parts of the city and force Sharia law into effect. Birmingham is the first majority-minority major city in Europe.

    I actually lived in Tottenham and went to school there for 5 months and it was as bad as it sounds. The college campus (which was since shutdown) had numerous violent rapes so they moved all the girl’s dorms to the top floors to mitigate this. I got burglarized (inside a college campus with guards!) and jumped on the street by two african guys in the middle of the day while everybody did nothing.

  • martin_uk

    Some blacks seems to think that other non-white people will side with them against whites, but as these events remind us, this will never happen. The fact is that non-black non-whites actually admire the best in white culture, and respectable white people, and aspire to be like them in many respects. There is no way on earth that Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, Sikhs, want to be associated in the popular consciousness with blacks.

  • margaret

    The Wall Street Journal printed the truth, that according to eye witnesses, the drivers were black.

    “Tofsirul Islam, a 22-year-old student who lives nearby, said he suddenly saw a black car drive down the middle of the road at high speed, directly into the crowd of vigilantes. He said the three men flew into the air as the car rammed them. Its windshield was completely shattered, its fender mangled and its hood sprang up, he said.

    “He could have slowed down or swerved to avoid people,” Mr. Islam said. “Maybe he didn’t intend to kill them, but he was definitely looking for trouble.”

    Mr. Islam claimed the driver and his two passengers—who he said were all Afro-Caribbean—had come to the area to loot shops. West Midlands police refused to comment, saying it was too early to connect the incident to the disturbances that affected other parts of Birmingham on Tuesday night.”

    Note that the young men who rallied round to protect their families businesses are called vigilantes by the hard left commie front for more than one hundred years Guardian.

    I love to see liberals squirm when they have to choose between their beloved non Whites and other grievance groups. Many US universities in black neighborhoods also have the policy of housing the men on the first 6 or 7 floors of the high rise dorms putting the women on the top floors to prevent the worst people from breaking in.

    Of course the professors, even in black impacted high crime schools such as Yale, University of Chicago, Columbia, Temple and countless others continue to teach that black crime does not exist and that evil Whites must atone for the sins against blacks by being raped, robbed and assaulted.

  • Anonymous

    4 — ATBOTL wrote at 11:32 PM on August 10:

    “There was a black vs. Pakistani riot in Birmingham a few years ago in which an innocent black man minding his business was murdered. It didn’t receive a lot of media coverage.”

    Anyone who goes out onto the street during a riot is not innocent. Intelligent people would remain home and be prepared to defend their property and families, but not take part or go out to gawk. Lots of whites are being killed and beat up in America with little or no media coverage.

  • Question Diversity

    12 Margaret wrote:

    Many US universities in black neighborhoods also have the policy of housing the men on the first 6 or 7 floors of the high rise dorms putting the women on the top floors to prevent the worst people from breaking in.

    How does that prevent anything? First off, the thug blacks can walk right in (i.e. wait for a student whose card can open the doors to the building, then follow him or her in), then ride the elevators or walk up the stairs to the top floors full of women. Beyond that, do they actually think that the typical college man of today even has the ability or desire to fend off a bunch of black thugs? Physically, no. Most colleges ban guns, so from that standpoint, armed black thugs vs unarmed college man, the black thugs win. And then there’s the matter of racial will — These college men have been indoctrinated with egalitarianism and “black is cool” propaganda, and, as they’re still in college, they’re still getting that message. Do these residential life bureaucrats, who themselves mostly oppose “racism” at every turn, expect the skinny lanky 18- and 19-year old white men and some non-white men who can’t have guns and who have been browbeaten into racial submission, to defend their women when the armed black thugs come a’knocking?

  • Anonymous

    Of course, it was deiberate Labour Party policy to abolish all immigration controls in order ‘to make Britain more multicultural’ (Google ‘Andrew Neather immigration’).

    It was part of their plan to abolish Britain’s White English majority, destroying it just for the sake of destroying it (THEY are the real vandals and destroyers).

    Anyhow, what we are seeing in Birmingham is the fruit of these policies.There are very few Whites actually left in Birmingham.It’s divided between blacks and pakistanis – who hate each other.It is a literal in the marrow dagger-eyed hatred to the death – that’s why that black deliberately and cold-bloodedly with no excuse murdered those pakistanis.

    In turn the pakis absolutely hate, loath and revile the blacks, whom they see (rightly) as nothing but a race of thieves.

    If we see no real, horrible race war between black and paki in Birmingham in the nest few days, it will certainly erupt in the future.

    It will be bloody and atrocities will be committed.I think it will resemble Bosnia in its brutality.

    But “ah” say the Labour Party, ‘diversity is sooo enriching and will save Britain’.

    And stuck inbetween will be the (Mostly White) police, paramedics and fire crews, who will be targeted by both.

  • Sureesh

    As a conservative South Asian, I will make damn sure my kids don’t attend elite colleges in ‘dangerous’ neighborhoods- I don’t care if they offer a full scholarship (which they won’t because my kids are a member of a ‘overrepresented minority’ rather than a ‘disadvantaged minority). My kids are going to attend college that are located in nice suburban neighorhoods rather than ghettos. I value their safety too much.