Race and the 2012 Election

Henry Wolff, American Renaissance, November 9, 2012

Does this election mark the end of the GOP?

In 2008, Barack Obama was elected president of the United States, due in large part to overwhelming support and turnout from non-whites. We were told his election was the dawn of a post-racial America, but many believe race relations have gotten worse, and exit polls reveal the 2012 presidential election as the most racially polarized in American history.

From the pages of the New York Times to the airwaves of National Public Radio, the talk of this year’s election is the Republican Party’s dwindling white base. The pundits insist the GOP must find a way to reach out to non-whites—especially Hispanics—or risk losing the presidency forever. Sen. John Cornyn, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, says “we have a period of reflection and recalibration ahead for the Republican Party.” Sen. Susan Collins of Maine agrees: “We have to recognize the demographic changes in this country.” But just how critical were non-whites to Mr. Obama’s victory?

The electorate

Though whites have declined as a portion of the presidential electorate—from 87 percent in 1992 to just 72 percent in 2012—they are still overrepresented in comparison to their portion of the overall population, which is 63 percent. Blacks, meanwhile, make up 13 percent of the electorate, a number roughly at parity with their percentage of the population .

Many Hispanics in the US are not eligible to vote, so while they are the largest US minority group (16.7 percent of the population), they accounted for only 10 percent of voters in 2012. Many Asians are also ineligible to vote and those who are have a low turnout, so although Asians are 5 percent of the population they accounted for only 3 percent of the electorate. Asians are concentrated in heavily-Democratic California, where they were 11 percent of those voting. Though the demographic prospects for whites are bleak, they still cast well over two-thirds of the votes.

Data sources: New York Times and CNN.

Non-whites went from 26 percent of voters in 2008 to 28 percent in 2012, an increase largely attributable to Hispanics and Asians, and possibly a lower white turnout rate. Over the past two decades, the Asian part of the electorate has tripled and the Hispanic portion has quintupled. This year, Hispanics were a substantial portion of voters in the key battleground states of Colorado (14 percent), Florida (17 percent), and Nevada (19 percent).

The white vote

At the polls, 59 percent of whites supported Mr. Romney, a rate no presidential candidate has matched since 1988. In fact, Mr. Romney is the first presidential candidate in US history to receive so high a share of the white vote and still lose the election.

From 2008 to 2012, Mr. Obama’s share of the white vote dropped from 43 percent to 39 percent, resulting in a 20-point gap between him and Mr. Romney. The decrease was especially sharp among white men, 41 percent of whom supported Mr. Obama in 2008, but just 35 percent in 2012—a drop of 6 percent. Mr. Obama’s vote share among white women dropped less, from 46 percent to 42 percent.

Whites in the South overwhelmingly supported Mr. Romney, especially in Mississippi (89 percent of white voters chose him) and Alabama (84 percent). Northern whites leaned more toward Mr. Obama, with majorities voting for him in Vermont (66 percent of white voters), Massachusetts (57 percent), Maine (57 percent), New Hampshire (51 percent), and Connecticut (51 percent). Demographic data was not available for Rhode Island (whites probably voted for Mr. Obama) or Delaware (whites voted for George Bush in 2004, but for Mr. Obama in 2008).

Outside the North, the only white electorates to prefer Mr. Obama were Oregon (54 percent), Washington (53 percent), Iowa (51 percent), Washington, DC (no 2012 data), and Hawaii (no 2012 data).

Below is a table showing how whites voted in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia, according to CNN exit poll data, sorted in descending order by the percentage of whites who voted for Mr. Romney. Values with an asterisk are from the 2008 election, since demographic data was not recorded in some states this year. Also included are each state’s electoral votes and the white percentage of the electorate.

 State Romney (% White Vote) Obama (% White Vote) Electoral Votes Electorate (% White)
Mississippi 89 10 6 59
Alabama 84 15 9 68
Louisiana 84* 14* 8 65
Georgia 76* 23* 16 65
South Carolina 73* 26* 9 71
Texas 73* 26* 38 63
Oklahoma 71* 29* 7 82
Arkansas 68* 30* 6 83
North Carolina 68 31 15 70
Arizona 66 32 11 74
Utah 66* 31* 6 90
Wyoming 66* 32* 3 91
Alaska 65* 33* 3 78
Idaho 65* 33* 4 90
Missouri 65 32 10 78
Kansas 64 33 6 87
Kentucky 63* 36* 8 85
Tennessee 63* 34* 11 84
Florida 61 37 29 67
Virginia 61 37 13 70
Indiana 60 38 11 85
Montana 59 38 3 89
Nebraska 59* 39* 5 92
Ohio 57 41 18 79
Pennsylvania 57 42 20 78
West Virginia 57* 41* 5 94
Nevada 56 43 6 64
New Jersey 56 43 14 67
New Mexico 56 41 5 51
South Dakota 56* 41* 3 90
Maryland 55 43 10 59
Michigan 55 44 16 77
North Dakota 55* 42* 3 92
Colorado 54 44 9 78
California 53 45 55 55
Illinois 52 46 20 70
Wisconsin 51 48 10 86
Minnesota 49 48 10 87
New York 49 49 29 67
Connecticut 48 51 7 79
Iowa 47 51 6 93
New Hampshire 47 51 4 93
Washington 46 53 12 76
Delaware 45* 53* 3 77
Oregon 44 54 7 88
Massachusetts 42 57 11 86
Maine 40 57 4 96
Rhode Island 39* 58* 4 83
Vermont 33 66 3 95
Hawaii 27* 70* 4 41
District of Columbia 12* 86* 3 35

Clearly the spread in the white vote is extraordinary: 89 percent of whites in Mississippi voted for Mr. Romney but only 33 percent in Vermont. Do those states even belong in the same Union? And what does it tell whites about their government when 59 percent of them vote for a candidate but the figure for whites who live in the federal capital—many of whom work for the federal government—is only 12 percent (2008 data)? Washington is clearly out of touch with American whites. Whites in the city vote overwhelmingly for Mr. Obama, just as non-whites do.

If we counted only votes cast by whites, Mr. Obama would have lost the electoral college 68 to 438 (neither tally includes New York State’s 29 electoral votes; whites appear to have split evenly between the two candidates). If only white men had voted, as in the earlier days of the Republic, Mr. Obama would have won just 48 electoral votes.

By contrast, if we counted only votes cast by non-whites, Mr. Romney would not have won a single electoral vote. There was not a single state in which even a single minority group—black, Hispanic, or Asian—gave Mr. Romney a majority of their votes.

The black vote

This year, as in 2008, blacks voted near-unanimously for Mr. Obama: 93 percent to 6 percent for Mr. Romney. Though this Democratic margin of 87 points is lower than the 91 points Mr. Obama got in 2008, it is still well over the margin for the five  previous elections, which averaged 76 points. Mr. Obama’s race remains important  for blacks, despite their worsening economic position and Mr. Obama’s newfound support for gay marriage, a position some blacks said would cost him their vote.

Black votes were decisive in some states. In Maryland, for example, Mr. Obama won only 43 percent of white voters. Blacks, who accounted for 28 percent of voters and gave him 97 percent of their vote, handed Mr. Obama the state with a resounding 62 percent majority.

The Hispanic vote

Many commentators say Hispanics were decisive in key swing states. Indeed, Hispanics turned out in record numbers this year, accounting for 10 percent of the electorate (up from 9 percent in 2008). Seventy-one percent voted Democratic—a rate exceeded only by Bill Clinton’s 72 percent in 1996. At 27 percent, Mr. Romney’s share of the Hispanic vote was lower than John McCain’s 31 percent. But just how important was the Hispanic vote?

Many people, including Mr. Obama, say Mr. Romney did poorly among Hispanics because he alienated them by saying in the primaries that the US should enforce existing immigration laws. (He backtracked considerably in the general election, vowing to pass “comprehensive immigration reform” in his first year.) How would Mr. Romney have done if he had won 40 percent of the Hispanic vote as George W. Bush did in 2004?  (As Steve Sailer has pointed out, the oft-cited 44 percent is inaccurate, as even the exit polling company now admits). Let us not forget that Mr. Bush got those votes by forcing banks to give home loans to hundreds of thousands of underqualified Hispanics and promising amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, but let us assume Mr. Romney had pandered just as hard.

If Mr. Romney had won 40 percent of the Hispanic vote rather than 27 percent, his total vote would have increased by 1.3 percent. This would not have given him a majority of the popular vote, but would it have made enough of a difference in key swing states to give him the election?

The table below shows the Hispanic percentage of the electorate in key swing states, as well as the percent of Hispanic voters who favored Mr. Romney in 2012 and Mr. Bush in 2004. Data for Virginia was not available for 2004, so we have assumed Mr. Bush’s percentage of the national Hispanic vote. Also included are the percentage of each state’s vote Mr. Romney received from Hispanics at his actual 2012 rates, the percentage he would have received if Hispanics had voted at the same rates they did for Mr. Bush in 2004, and the difference between the two. The last column is the percentage spread by which Mr. Obama beat Mr. Romney in that state. Because an additional vote for Mr. Romney is counted as one vote less for Mr. Obama, if two times the figure in the next-to-last column is greater than the figure in the last column, a Bush-level of Hispanic support would have given Romney the state.

State Electorate (% Hispanic) % Hispanics for Romney % Hispanics for Bush ’04 Hispanic % of State Vote (Romney at Actual Rate) Hispanic % of State Vote (Romney at Bush Rate) Difference (%) Overall Vote Spread (% Obama – % Romney)
Colo. 14 23 30 3.22 4.20 0.98 4.7
Fla. 17 39 56 6.63 9.52 2.89 0.6
Iowa 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 5.6
Nev. 19 24 39 4.56 7.41 2.85 6.6
N.H. 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 5.8
Ohio 3 42 35 1.26 1.05 -0.21 1.9
Penn. 6 18 28 1.08 1.68 0.60 5.2
Va. 5 33 40 1.65 2.00 0.35 3.0
Wis. 4 31 47 1.24 1.88 0.64 6.7

With the single exception of Florida, Mr. Romney would not have tipped any swing state (or, of course, any other state) even if he had he achieved Mr. Bush’s fabled level of Hispanic support. It’s worth noting also that if Mr. Romney had fawned over Hispanics enough to get high levels of their support, he would have lost at least some white votes.

Speaking after the election, Al Cardenas, chairman of the American Conservative Union, said “I don’t believe there’s a path to the White House in the future that doesn’t include 38 percent to 40 percent Hispanic support.” Clearly, as we have shown, a Republican candidate would have to do better that.

How could Mr. Romney have won this election? Because there are still seven times as many white as Hispanic voters, Mr. Romney would have earned much higher dividends courting the white vote than by increasing his Hispanic share. If Mr. Romney had won just 1.5 percent more of the white vote, he would have carried the popular vote, a feat that would have required an 11 percent increase in his share of the Hispanic vote.

Mr. Romney only needed to increase his share of the white vote in key swing states by a few percentage points to win. The table below shows swing states (their electoral votes are in parentheses) and the white percentages of their electorates. Mr. Romney’s actual share of the white vote is included, along with the share he would have needed for victory, which was calculated using a similar methodology to that used in the Hispanic table above. The difference between Mr. Romney’s actual white vote and the white vote he would have needed is also displayed.

State  Electorate (% White) % Whites for Romney White Vote Needed for Victory (%) Difference (%)
CO (9) 78 54 57.1 3.1
FL (29) 67 61 61.5 0.5
IA (6) 93 47 50.1 3.1
NV (6) 64 56 61.2 5.2
NH (4) 93 47 50.2 3.2
OH (18) 79 57 58.3 1.3
PA (20) 78 57 60.4 3.4
VA (13) 70 61 63.2 2.2
WI (10) 86 51 54.9 3.9

As is clear, Mr. Romney needed only a few percentage points’ shift in the white vote to win these states. Obvious ways to do this would have been to make affirmative action a campaign issue or to support an end to birthright citizenship. Pat Buchanan-style appeals to working class whites–and there are many in these states–could have been equally successful.

The Asian vote

One big—and largely neglected—story of the 2012 election is the shift in the Asian vote. If the current exit-polling data are accurate, Asians voted for Mr. Obama at an even higher rate than Hispanics: 73 percent versus 71 percent. There has been a steadily growing Asian majority voting Democrat: 55 percent in 2004, 63 percent in 2008, and now 73 percent. However, until this year they lagged Hispanics by 4 to 5 percentage points. Why are Asians now the second-most reliable Obama supporters after blacks? We have no good answer.

The chart below shows the stark racial divide in this presidential election:

Data sources: New York Times and CNN.

Of course, when the vote splits like this along racial lines, it is always the white candidate who failed to do enough to win minority votes. For years that has been the refrain about Hispanics, and now Republicans will no doubt be told they have to do more to win over Asians. Needless to say, when the black candidate loses millions of white votes from one election to the next, there is no soul-searching about how to appeal to whites. The whites who abandoned Mr. Obama can just be written off as “racists.”

What are the policies that would win over non-whites?

For some Hispanics, an illegal immigrant amnesty, more Hispanic immigration, and more handouts might do the trick. But if Republicans support the first two, they will only make the electorate more Democratic. If they support more handouts, they will cease to be Republicans.

Republicans fail to realize that they can win the Hispanic (or black) vote only by completely rewriting their platform. By and large, it is only white people who vote for border control, small government, balanced budgets, and low taxes for the upper and middle classes. As the racial balance of the country changes, everything else about it changes. For decades, Republicans were willfully blind while immigration whittled away their natural support base and turned America into a country that simply cannot act and vote the way Republicans want it to. The GOP is in a terminal crisis of its own making. It should have consolidated the white vote long ago and fought the policies that were making it shrink.

Eventually, of course, if whites do become a minority of the electorate, even a successful strategy of consolidating their votes will not work at the national level. But in the meantime, any Republican support for amnesty, more legal immigration, and any other policy that increases the non-white percentage of the electorate would only add fuel to the Party’s funeral pyre.

Asians, with their high incomes and high levels of personal responsibility always seemed to be the one non-white group that was potentially Republican. If now even Asians are voting overwhelmingly for a non-white, Democratic candidate, the racial split in electoral politics is wider than ever. This election has been more starkly white vs. non-white than any in American history.

Is anyone still talking about a post-racial America?

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Henry Wolff
Henry Wolff is the assistant editor of American Renaissance.
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  • Flytrap

    The best way I can describe this phenomena is bigotry.  Scorn, derision and contempt for white people, especially Southern conservatives, seems to be the norm amongst our melanin enhanced citizenry. 

    • puffdaddy

      And also among white progressives. They loath white people even more than non whites. Imagine their surprise when they discover that it wins them no favors when they are a member of a minority race. Imagine how safe lesbian couples will be. Imagine.

      • JohnEngelman

        White progressives do not “loath white people even more than non whites.” Instead they have non racial concerns. The main one is probably that the standard of living for most Americans – including most white Americans – is declining, while the rich are getting richer. 
        During previous periods of growing inequality most people rose somewhat in income. This time it is different. To understand why President Obama was reelected, and why Democrats increased their numbers in both houses of Congress, you need to understand the growing income gap, and that it is a Democrat issue.

        • puffdaddy

          Excuse me, but I understand the income gap and as I live in the Northeast, I understand progressives – and I work.  First of all, handing out entitlements to an ever growing population of amnesty seekers (and receivers) is not going to do much to fix the income gap.  So, great idea Democrats – that’s your issue! Second, the white progressives I know constantly say disparaging things about white people – even though they produce things that white people consume (like novels they try to sell the NY publishers and cheese from little cheese shops they run in Brooklyn and plays about lesbians – yeah Mexicans are going to be flocking to that play). Still, they discuss endlessly about how whitey must be stopped.  It’s been that way since I was in college in the late 70s and has remained so through graduate school and through my career in media. And so it shall be. They shall get their wish.

        • Indiana Guy

          well, you are completely wrong, white progressives DO loathe “white” people. They steadfastly demonize anyone who identifies themselves as “white”. They steadfastly demonize anyone who dares mention that Whites have interests that need to be protected. As usual, you offer nothing but falsehood and empty rhetoric.

          • JohnEngelman

            What you interpret as loathing for white people is more probably loathing for you and for people who think the way you do. 

          • Gracchus123

            I am particularly offended when people express hostility for Whites.

            And the expression of hostility for Whites is pervasive in our society and around the world. In fact racial hatred toward Whites is legal, in fact encouraged, in the US. A “hate crime” prosecuted against a White is rare, but no so the reverse.

          • Tucker

            I am particularly offended when people express hostility for Whites.”

            May I add that when this virulent, deep rooted, demonic and clearly psychopathic hatred and hostility motivates those who are afflicted with this festering cancer to use their political power and their enormous quantity of ill-gotten, usury-obtained wealth to bribe politicians of both political parties to enact legislation regarding immigration policy which are deliberately and maliciously designed to dispossess White European people as the majority population group of the nation that THEIR ANCESTORS built and then subjugate them and their descendents to being ruled by hate-filled, dangerous, violent prone, resentful, low IQ hoards of non-white parasitical aliens from every third world failure of a nation on this planet – then that behavior most certainly merits a far more passionate emotion (as well as a defensive response)  than simply being ‘offended’.

            May I suggest that John Engelman review his dual citizenship paperwork and passports and make sure they are in order?  

            After all, one never really knows when a hasty exit from the North American continent might become the most important item on one’s agenda.

          • David Ashton

              Jews who criticize Zionism are often described by other Jews as “self-hating”.   Gentile whites who criticize their own cultural heritage or oppose its intact perpetuation could be described as “white-loathing”.  For a fraction of the evidence of its existence, see e.g. Pascal Bruckner, “The Tyranny of Guilt: An Essay on Western Masochism” (Princeton 2010).   Tom Wolfe noted this attitude years ago in a satire on radical chic in posh-urban USA.
               In Britain, we are still assured by both black and white leftists that “only whites can be racist”, originally a theme launched strongly by our Inner London Education Authority but which since spread like an ideological disease.  Incidentally, Professor Dennis Dworkin of Nevada University wrote a book on the “intellectual” background, titled (wait for it, Mr Engelman) “Cultural Marxism in Postwar Britain” (Duke University Press, 1997).  Again, read, mark, inwardly digest, and see what appetite you have for your birds’ nest soup. 

          • ‘I am particularly offended when people express hostility for Orientals and Jews.’

            No kidding !

            Your beloved mongols and fellow jews didn’t found the US nor the Western world.   They have their own nations now and can go back  there if they don’t like the racial hostility that always comes when foreigners are colonizing and/or trying to control someone else’s country.

            As if mongols and jews would not “express hostility” if Whites were invading their countries en masse or were disproportionally represented in their governments and media ?

            Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, HA HA HA !

            New Asian immigrants to US now surpass Hispanics:


            “Yes, we control Hollywood” (Joel Stein):


          • JohnEngelman

            White Gentiles took America from the Indians with guns. Jews and Orientals use their brains. What is more, they produce useful goods and services. No one has to hire them. No one has to buy what they create. We do because it is beneficial to us.

          • Joseph

            “Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun” Mao Tzedong

            “It lies with the Israeli people to prepare for war, but it lies upon the Israeli army to carry out the fight with the ultimate objective of creating an Israeli empire.” Moshe Dayan -1952

            p.s. -not a colonial Europeans.

          • On this one, I’m going to have to side with John. I, too, am a big fan of the jews. I appreciate their contribution to the arts, (Hollywood,) and for all their help and stewardship in the financial sector. Most media outlets are owned and operated by them, and I can’t remember a time in my life when I wasn’t immersed completely in their point of view. I shudder to think what our country would look like without all their help. I assume it would look something like this:


            (Poster’s note:) Whooops, you’re going to have to forgive me, I accidentally posted a photo of Disneyland’s opening day, 1955. Children running with joy and so forth. Guess I didn’t have my glasses.

          • Guest

            Point taken. That is true.

            There is a loathing for particular types of people who think in terms of racism. 

            But I still believe there is a very selective bias among Liberals. I also believe that there is a certain hate for white people in general and you see it all of time.

            Instead of rejoicing and attempting to come together to overcome “racism,” there is a huge celebration how whites are going to be a minority.

            Engelman, if someone is trying to overcome racism and racist thought, why would they rejoice anyone becoming a minority. That really creates more division.

            But the standards of different.

          • JohnEngelman

            Liberal Democrats who look forward to a white minority in the United States do so from a feeling of hopelessness. They do not believe that the Democratic Party can ever win back the white working class that was once an essential constituency of the Democratic Party.

            During the last election Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan promoted more tax cuts for the rich, more military spending, and the delusion that these policies would pay off the national debt. When they were more candid they advocated cuts in middle class entitlements.

            I can understand why rich Republicans support this. I despair when I see that whites who earn less than twice minimum wage with no benefits, and who will never earn more, support it also. Fortunately minorities, even when they are affluent, do not have a fatal attraction to the GOP.

            I have more understanding of white blue collar political behavior than most liberal Democrats. Black crime is a problem, as is affirmative action, and the black tendency to game the welfare system. I myself have been robbed at gun point and mugged by blacks. Nevertheless, I vote Democrat, and am glad that President Obama was reelected.

            The Republican Party is the party for the rich. I am not rich. I am not going to be rich. I do not benefit from economic policies that benefit those who are rich. It is as simple as that.

          • Joseph

            You must mean those poor Democrats like Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Nan Pelosi, Michael Bloomberg, George Soros…

            From every election cycle from 2000-2010, hedge-fund managers gave money at more than 2:1 to Democratic campaigns. Only now have they decided to try betting on the other horse.

            They all go to the same parties, visit the same whores and drink from the same bottles of 40 year old whiskey.

            You’d better wake up and smell the false dichotomy.

        • Dan

          ” White progressives do not “loath white people even more than non whites.”

          Oh yes! The anti-racist groups are just chocked full of right wing republicans! Have you ever noticed how these lefty punks NEVER protest a New Black panther gathering or Louis Farrakhan rally. Because they are cowards, plain and simple. But keep on defending them Mr Engleman.. or is that Mr. Potok?

        • Guest

           You are bald-faced liar, John Engelman.

          • JohnEngelman

            What have I said that is not true? Document your assertions.

          • Tucker

            Let’s see if Johnny Engelman can win the prize and guess the identity of the author who made this absolutely brilliant observation:

            “The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their
            argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their
            opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out
            they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in
            spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the
            counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would
            lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were
            applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from
            the original theme. If you faced them with this point they would escape again,
            and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried
            to get a firm grip on any of these apostles one’s hand grasped only jelly and
            slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a
            moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument,
            on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you
            had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The
            Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he
            would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had
            happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday’s defeat, he
            pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the
            previous day he had proved that his statements were correct. Sometimes I was
            dumbfounded. I do not know what amazed me the more – the abundance of their
            verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods.”

            Incidentally, I think that the vast majority of regular readers and posters to AmRen, after studying this passage and reflecting upon the history of posted comments by Engelman – will see, as I do, that this passage is describing his ‘debating’ techniques almost to perfection.

            Uncanny, isn’t it?    The amazing insight of this long ago expired author. 

          • JohnEngelman

            You called me a liar. 
            I asked you to tell me what I have said that is not true.
            Instead of answering in your own words, you blew hot air in my face that you had not even written.
            Again I ask, what have I said that is not true?

          • Guest

            While I don’t believe in the assertions that Engleman has said, I also don’t agree with many of the more “fervent” posters on this site. I do believe we should be allowed to share different points of view without ridiculing and name calling.

          • NM156

            Politicallly ambiguous John Engelman is like Pat from the “It’s Pat!” skit on SNL: is it a he, or is it a she?

          • David Ashton

            Fight the “Red Indians” – is that ALL that “White Gentiles” ever did for America? You once posted that Jews wrote the Bible, but doesn’t this record cases of ethnic warfare and occupation of other lands, which some Jews see as a justification for the displacement of Palestinians in recent times? Haven’t the Chinese some history of ethnic warfare, including the occupation of Tibet? Jewish immigrants to the USA have had both good and bad effects, so whereas a racial antisemitism would be irrational and immoral, it is possible, for example, to balance “famous” physicists and physicians against “famous” communists and “famous” criminals.

        • Guest

          So you don’t believe that Liberals hate the group that they’re from? Or even have some sort of guilt?

          Even when I was Liberal I thought that white people caused the most misery in the world based upon what I was taught. I live around them everyday.

          A lot of them will deny it but if you listen they celebrate the day that whites become a minority or believe if there were no white people everything would be great. The amount of double standards is astounding.  Most Liberal shows mock whites outright with stereotypes but wouldn’t dare to do the same comedy about black people out of racism. They do this about of the belief that they will be respected and appease some guilt that as a group they committed.

          This isn’t all the time but it has a lot of truth.

          I respect your position but as someone who was Liberal and had Liberal friends I respectfully disagree. 

        • WR_the_elder

          In my experience “progressives” favor affirmative action, illegal immigration, promote “multiculturalism”, and are delighted that whites are becoming a minority. Yes, they claim to be concerned about increasing income inequality, but they favor the cheap labor immigration policies that have helped to reduce wages for working and middle class people. They claim to be pro-environment even as they favor immigration policies than ensure that our population will keep growing without bound. I remember several years back when a group of disgruntled Sierra Club members fielded some candidates for the Board of Directors who favored reducing immigration so we could stabilize our population. All of the candidates were of a liberal bent, none would ever have been seen posting on a forum like this one. Yet the existing members of the board demonized them, called them racists, actually fielded a couple of fake candidates to draw away votes (including Morris Dees) and defeated all of the immigration reduction candidates.

          So a pox on the “progressives” — they aren’t what they used to be. None of this means the Republicans are any good, of course. There is no party that can get on a ballot that represents our interests.

        • On the contrary, rather than having “no racial concerns” Anti-Whites have deep racial concerns which dominate every aspect of their lives!

          Anti-whites feel that White people (like themselves) should NEVER have a racial identity or racial consciousness. They constantly feel the need to PROVE their ‘lack of racial consciousness’ (preferably in front of an audience) by acting against the interests of their own racial group (again, preferably in front of an audience) .

          Anti-Whites can only “prove” their “racial neutrality” (oxymoron) by kowtowing to other races, engaging in meaningless (i.e. multicultural) fantasies – but most importantly, by publically and explicitly attacking their own race and supporting measures calculated to harm them.

          Unless White people perpetually engaged in self-harm (multiculturalism), no other race would take them seriously.But whilst they are prepared to harm their own race, culture, and way of life, other races will always be prepared to play along – they are the beneficiaries, after all.

          In summary, the idea that Anti-Whites have “no racial concerns” is hilarious. Anti-Whites think about race all the time. They will do and say anything to make their “racial neutrality” theory come true – including harm their own race and put its very existence on the line.

          Luckily for us, Anti-Whites are fighting against nature. And that’s why, one day, this whole one-world, multi-racial utopia they have built (through central-planning) will come to a loud and spectacular end.

          • Joseph

            It’s like a parent who beats his own kid to show just how much he loves the children of others.

      • gemjunior

        “Imagine their surprise when they discover that it wins them no favors when they are a member of a minority race. Imagine how safe lesbian couples will be. ”

        Can’t wait to see them then.  What will they do when their precious pets are kicking their face in with a steel boot nonstop, day after day.  I usually try not to be petty enough or mean enough to see someone physically hurt but I really don’t feel too much pity for what they will experience as they plead “but I always put you blacks ahead of whites like myself”.  The laughing that follows the savagery will really make them understand what a joke they are to these parasites.

        • puffdaddy

          I think that Amanda Kijera, a “civic journalist” and activist in Haiti (and white, and I assume straight) sums it up best when she wrote a blog post/news story about being raped in Haiti by one of the locals.  Her response to being violently violated for several hours sums up the response of most progressive, politicized lesbians (as opposed to your own sweet old Aunt Mary, who never married, never made a stink about it, always baked you brownies, and had a lovely best friend names Jo). As she famously wrote: 

          “Ever committed to preserving the dignity of Black men in a world which constantly stereotypes them as violent savages…I was held on a rooftop in Haiti and raped repeatedly by one of the very men who I had spent the bulk of my life advocating for.

          It hurt. The experience was almost more than I could bear. I begged him to stop. Afraid he would kill me, I pleaded with him to honor my commitment to Haiti, to him as a brother in the mutual struggle for an end to our common oppression, but to no avail. He didn’t care that I was a Malcolm X scholar. He told me to shut up, and then slapped me in the face. Overpowered, I gave up fighting halfway through the night.”
          You can read the whole appalling thing here: http://www.race-talk.org/we-are-not-your-weapons-we-are-women/

          As a black friend of mine remarked recently, “If Obama instituted white genocide tomorrow, progressives would be pushing and shoving each other to be first in line, and then thank the government for the bullet about to enter their brain.”  SO please, do not tell me that progressives do not loath themselves, it’s just that they feel the Democrats “speak to their issues.” Please.

          • Joseph

            Some people I know very well have been to Haiti numerous times. They said that they could scarcely distinguish the difference in the country before and after the big quake -and they *like* to visit the place so are more likely to impressed by any improvement. Alas, there has been almost none since then.

            If Florida shipped all of their trash to Haiti it would enhance the conditions of both.

    • Dan Reardon

      ” The best way I can describe this phenomena is bigotry.”

      And a deep seated envy. They hate us for what we are and what they can never become.

      • JohnEngelman

        That sounds the way many posters here feel about Jews and Orientals. The posters resent Jews and Orientals because they perform so well, they achieve so much, and they are consequently so prosperous.

        • Dan Reardon

          Engleman, Of course Orientals and Jews achieve so much – They STICK together! Go to China or Israel and tell them how much better their countries would be if they imported millions of sub Saharan Africans and you would be promptly thrown out of the country. White people need to imitate this behavior. And you really need to read “The culture of Critique” by Dr. Kevin McDonald.

  • bluffcreek1967

    Is it not obvious by now that conservative Whites need to abandon the Republican Party in large numbers because they no longer represent the best interests of Whites (some would say they never have)? Several Republican leaders (including Sean Hannity) are calling for the GOP to be even more ‘inclusive’ and work toward ‘comprehensive immigration reform.’ They have lost their minds! The Blacks and Hispanics will never align with a political party that’s dominated by Whites, especially when the Democratic Party promises them all the government goodies they could ever want. All paid for at the expense of hard-working Whites!

    I don’t care how ugly it sounds or how uncomfortable it may sound to our ears, Whites must unite and do everything (politically, socially and economically) for our race and for our best interests. Somehow we must form a new political party that represents us alone. We must form a new alliance that isn’t side-tracked into such foolish pursuits as ‘reaching’ Hispanics and Blacks!

    Whites can either be divided and torn apart by the politically-correct elite and the mass of ‘minorities’ who would love to see our genocide -or- we can stand together and fight what is being done to us. In the coming days, the anti-White agenda will be even more overt than it ever has, so we better start thinking differently about our place and survival in the new America!

    I don’t have all the answers. But we must think, strategize, and carefully plan as never before.

    • Hirschibold

      Here’s a start. Today I needed a rake and a snow shovel. I went to my local white-owned hardware store, with a couple of old Amren print issues under my arm. I paid for my goods, handed the copy to the cashier, and said, “Here man, check this out.” Doing this at local white-owned shops is a good idea.

      Another tip: Don’t write off any young white person from the movement, even if they seem to be a hipster or an “Occupy” type. With older liberals it is hopeless. But the younger ones have minority arrogance shoved in their faces on a daily basis at universities, and on the streets where their SWPL neighborhoods abut black or Hispanic neighborhoods. A lot of the ones who might publicly condemn us might not be so reticent to read (and maybe donate) online. If they didn’t know what we know, they would live in Oakland, not San Francisco. If Jared Taylor wasn’t right, they wouldn’t have packed up and made the trek from Long Beach to Burbank.

      • anarchyst

        I have had considerable success discussing racial concerns with young white people–even teenagers.  Young white males see what is going on and DO realize that their opportunities are diminished in the face of “civil-rights (for some)” laws and “affirmative-action” efforts.  The “trick” to reaching young people is not to demonize any other race, but to point out that the opportunities that favor other races are routinely denied to white males.  White females are a little harder to reach, being more receptive to “multiculturalism” and “diversity” claims.
        The key is to help white males “think for themselves” and to be aware of what is happening around them.

        • David Ashton

            My experience too in Britain.
            All is not lost.  Many adolescents do not like being taken for a ride.

        • Pelayo

          I agree with you on what our approach to young White males should be, however I noticed over my years in education the propensity for young White males to want to mimic the speech and actions of Blacks. I notice even when greeting each other there is always the approach and half hug, the “yo whaasup” and the Black jargon. At the same time, I see the resentment in their faces when they see a Black male with his arm around a young White female who seems to be delighting in the attention. Young White boys have been slowly and deliberately marginalized and degraded over the past years and they seem to feel the need to identify themselves with Blacks. I sometimes felt the temptation to try to reach them to divert them from this path but that could have been a serious career ender.

          • David Ashton

            Same in English cities. It is media-driven: teen programs on TV, chat shows, rap start and footballer “role models”, the clubbin-scene, US movie jargon, &c. Particularly noticeable with low-IQ white youths on a par with black youth generally -the wigga/[punk phenomenon. White leadership needs to be restored to white youth, and white girls to them also.

  • Mississippi:  89% of whites voted Romney.  Like I have said, American politics need to become Mississippiized.   If America as a whole was as ubiquitously black as Mississippi, our politics would be.

    • Joe_cactus

      This is why, while I would like to see all other welfare / foodstamp / gibsmedat programs cut off, I strongly support expansion of Section 8.  I would like to see a black “family” on every block of every white liberal enclave in America.  Preferably FOBs from Somalia.

  • Smeagol2

    Though I realize this has almost zero chance of happening, what we need to do is scrap our inherently flawed (to put it mildly) electoral college system.  That would be the best way for a decreasing white electorate to stay relevant.   Under the current system, as more states become solidly blue, more and more conservative whites probably will not bother to vote, or may be increasingly willing to compromise their conservative principles.   The optimal political system:  Multiple parties so we can finally vote for our interests, proportional representation for each party in the House, and two rounds of presidential voting like in France.   Like I said, it will never happen, but it’s nice to think about.

    • anarchyst

      The electoral college serves a useful role in keeping a few large states frommaking the votes of smaller states irrelevant.
      Most people are not aware of the fact that in many states, electors are not bound to vote for the presidential candidate with the most popular votes.  Stealthily installing pro-white people as electors could help …

    • No, the electoral college helps us.  For one, should there be tons of ballot-box stuffing by Democratic Party machines in places like Baltimore, Detroit, San Francisco, etc., only those state’s electoral votes are compromised–all other states still get their electoral votes.  But with direct popular election, corruption in one state harms the legitimate voice of all the others as those bogus votes all get added to the national total.

      Also, the electoral college is not based purely on a state’s population, because the two senators that each state uniformly has gives each state two electoral votes, resulting in the usually less populous red states having a greater influence in choosing the president than they otherwise have by pure population.  E.g. North Dakota has 3 electoral votes = 2 senators and 1 representative.  With direct election, ND’s weight would be strictly limited to its population, or only about a third the weight it presently has.

  • WmarkW

    Let’s not over-interpret the demographic break-down as being the key to the present or future.

    Since 1952, when the 22nd Amendment was passed, the parties have traded the White House every eight years, except for one 4/12 split in the 1980s.  For the Republicans to win, they would have had to convince voters to forget everything that happened before 2009, and attribute the entirety of circumstances today to Obama.   Forget it.

    The white vote table above brings up an important point about liberal white places like New England.  Remember when that region produced Republican Senators like Lowell Weicker, Lincoln Chafee, and James Jeffords?  The retirement of Olympia Snowe ended that era.  AmRen ran an article (link below) celebrating the defeat of Richard Lugar in his primary.  The man who defeated him, Richard Mourdock, became a laughingstock in the general election with his theological interpretation of rape.   The Republicans will continue to be the stupid party, if they can’t find regionally-adaptive ways to be smart.  It has to become more the party of Rudy Giuliani (which Mitt is) and less Trent Lott.  Otherwise, it will continue to get 90% of the vote of 40% of the people.


    • Puggg

      Shorter version of what you said:

      “Yay, red team!”

      Lincoln Chafee is now an independent Governor of Rhode Island.  One of his first actions as Governor was to stop the state from helping the Feds enforce immigration law.  So what you get a bunch of left wingers wearing red uniforms?

      My idea:

      “Yay, white team!”

  • Hirschibold

    A couple of points about the schadenfreude of the liberals in the aftermath of this election.

    1). All of this unsolicited advice from democrats about what the Republicans need to do to make themselves viable in the future is ridiculous. Who takes advice on how to win from someone who is trying to beat them? Would a boxer listen to his opponent on how to win the fight?

    2). Some of these libs might want to read ‘Camp of the Saints.’ Newsweek had a cover with the typically vindictive sense of triumphalism saying “GOP: You’re White, You’re Old, You’re History.” The white liberals who wrote that headline can expect to get a little tap on the shoulder in a couple of decades from a Hispanic who will happily tell them: “You’re white, you’re history.”

    3.) Things will get much worse for blacks now. The Leftist narrative is that there are white people, a nefarious minority, and then there are “people of color” a hand-holding coalition of Asians, blacks, Hispanics, and Arabs who would all join hands and frolic beneath a butterscotch waterfall if not for the perfidy of the white man. Those of us who have spent time in reality (especially somewhere like the military) know this is not true. Hispanics despise blacks, have no white guilt complex and no scruples about showing it.

    So maybe the white male conservative is going the way of the dodo. But it will still be fun to watch the ones who made this happen get their comeuppance.

    • Puggg

      Some of these libs might want to read ‘Camp of the Saints.’ Newsweek had
      a cover with the typically vindictive sense of triumphalism saying
      “GOP: You’re White, You’re Old, You’re History.”

      So saith a magazine that will soon end its print edition.

    • pcmustgo

       “”people of color” a hand-holding coalition of Asians, blacks, Hispanics, and Arabs who would all join hands and frolic beneath a butterscotch waterfall if not for the perfidy of the white man. ”

  • pcmustgo

    Wow, I am shocked in my native New York that Romney won just as many whites as Obama…. wow!

    • TeutonicKnight67

      So am I! I was actually uplifted by looking at the county by county breakdown map. Although the Chumpire State went to Obongo overall, It was heartening to see most of upstate go red. I can’t wait to get out of the God-forsaken downstate region. Let theGlorious Leaders minions have it!

  • Charles gerety

    I could ONLY hope that if whites hade the same racial loyalty as non-whites we would have won by a landslide. We are strong and intelligent just wait until whites start to wake up.When we do it’s going to be justice at last. I pray for it to be peaceful. We just want seperations.

  • It all goes far deeper than Republican (or any other) party.

    Nation is a group of people sharing collective destiny. They may have
    some origin myths (now redundant), common language, customs, language
    & law and culture. There cannot be a multiracial nation, just a
    multiracial country or, for that matter, empire.

    For instance, the true litmus of a nation is primary loyalty. During
    Jewish uprising against Rome in 70s A.D., not only Jews in what is now
    Israel & Palestine had been sucked into death-or-life war with Rome,
    but also Jews from Alexandria in Egypt and Cyrenaica “volunteered” (as
    far as transport facilities of that time allowed) to fight- and die (ca.
    1 million Jews killed) in Palestine.

    So, a nation is a crystallized collective loyalty & destiny. In
    the beginning of the US, this core nation consisted of mostly British
    Isles settlers plus some Northern Europeans, which formed a nation
    around a few traits: white European phenotype, English language,
    Christianity or Deism, common law, customs & legal principles and
    European cultural heritage. In the latter half of the 19th century new
    waves of European immigrants, now from Southern and Eastern Europe
    arrived, but they’ve been rather quickly assimilated.

    So- what’s American nation ?

    White phenotype, European cultural heritage & identification with American historical legacy and national identity.

    The other racial & ethnic groups are, IMO, part of American
    empire- but, the overwhelming majority, do not belong to the American
    nation. Empires come & go, from Rome to Ottomans and Soviet empire.
    The last one collapsed- but Russian nation lives on. I have no doubt
    that the American empire will have collapsed. Just- will American nation
    survive ?

    • TeutonicKnight67

       Spot on! I used to hate when effete euro snobs would say America has no “culture” while they extolled the virtues of Negro music. There is indeed an American Nation and it is WHITE!! The often misquoted “melting pot” statement makes that clear:

      is God’s crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of Europe
      are melting and reforming!… The real American has not yet arrived.  He
      is only in the crucible, I tell you – he will be the fusion of all
      races.”  ~Israel Zangwill

      All the races of EUROPE!

    • IanJMacDonald

      The sooner it collapses, the better.  Let the blue states and red states go their separate directions and be done with it. Let Puerto Rico and Hawaii and Texas go.  Southern California is already going back to Mexico. 

      I live in Houston.  If I step outside my front door and walk a mile in the right direction, I will be in an area that is culturally and linguistically 100% Latin America with taco stands on every corner (which I actually rather enjoy), and Tejano music blasting from the open windows or apartments as well as cars that drive past.

      And the same GOP elite that this cycle gave us as a candidate the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama last cycle think that they can somehow “reach out” the Mestizos and transmogrify them into Republicans?  Are they insane?

      Let the American Empire fall, let the almighty dollar go down in flames, let us live long enough to see the EBT cards fail en masse.  If that’s what it takes, then I only hope that I live long enough to see it all happen and emerge after the cataclysm.

      • JohnEngelman

        The red states have the highest percentage of non whites. If they go “their separate directions,” what are they going to do with all those non whites? 

        • Bad_Mr_Frosty

          Do you really want to know?

          • JohnEngelman

            Any plans you may have of reducing blacks to second class citizenship, deporting them, or killing them all are fantasies. 
            I think the division of the United States into two or more countries is a real possibility if the economy remains stagnant. The division, if it comes, will be violent. The long term result will be a much lower standard of living for most Americans. 

          • Indiana Guy

            No, they simply are not. The red states have pockets of black and minority populations. Once the red states secede then those pockets become isolated. Once the red states secede then the welfare ends. Just as the blacks migrated to the north in the early 20th century, they will migrate en masse to the blue states.The blue states will end up with fetid urban pockets of people that left the red states. You think this is far fetched? Just think back about all of the people from New Orleans that were transferred to Houston after Katrina.The simple truth is, if you cut off the welfare in one place, the blacks and hispanics will leave that place and go to where the welfare still exists.

          • JohnEngelman

            Indiana Guy,
            “The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill.
            “The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are “winners” — receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes — 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States.”

          • Guest

             ” If “it comes?   

            Guess what,  Johnny?   It isn’t ‘if’, it is ‘when’ and how soon.

            Personally, I say lets start tomorrow.    And, as far as a lower standard of living is concerned – I’d like to confess that beans and rice are probably two of my absolute favorite foods, and as long as I could toss in some delicious black-eyed or purple-hull peas now and then, I would be one happy Southern White guy – if those were the worst sacrifices I had to endure to be able to live in a White-only Ethnostate.

            BTW:  I hope you realize that you and your ilk are not going to be permitted to reside inside our White Ethnostate?

            Maybe you can bunk with those Asians you say you love so much.

        • Indiana Guy

          No, they simply are not. The red states have pockets of black and minority populations. Once the red states secede then those pockets become isolated. Once the red states secede then the welfare ends. Just as the blacks migrated to the north in the early 20th century, they will migrate en masse to the blue states.The blue states will end up with fetid urban pockets of people that left the red states. You think this is far fetched? Just think back about all of the people from New Orleans that were transferred to Houston after Katrina.The simple truth is, if you cut off the welfare in one place, the blacks and hispanics will leave that place and go to where the welfare still exists.

          • NM156

            Pockets? Mississippi is almost 40% black.

        • Tucker

           May I suggest that you read The Brigade, by Harold A. Covington, Mr. Engelman?

          There lies all the answers to your deceitfully naive questions.

          • JohnEngelman

            If you read it, and if you understood it, you tell me what the book says in your own words. 

    • MikeofAges

       What you are saying, it seems, is that a nation must be tribal, and if not (as in the case of the Roman Empire) creedal. In either case, the member of that nation have to be “all-in”.

      Those are not phyletically of the tribe have to fully adopt themselves into the tribe. Those not of the creed have to fully embrace the creed.

      In the case of the Roman Empire, the creed was Roman law, Roman peace, Roman prosperity and Roman order. The Roman world was brutal and merciless, but the world was brutal and merciless too before during and after the Roman era. So is our world,  but in different ways. Let’s not forget that.

      Our creed is British Israelism, or more to the point, modified British Israelism. The idea is that the British republic in North America is the New Israel and the Promised Land. Original British Israelism holds that only British-descended people are able to be part of the New Israel. Modified British Israelism holds that others can be part also, if they adopt British Israelism as their creed and go “all-in” on the concept. Other European nationalities, even  Jews, have crossed this bridge en masse. Those of other races and nationalities do so only individually.

      Modified British Israelism and the other pillars of Western Civilization, Platonic Idealism and the idea that Old Testament law is “the constitution of the human race”, have been under attack from many quarters during the lifetime of people alive today.

      Soviet communism in Cold War era was a source of the attack, but communism was not so opposed to these ideals as one  might think. Undermining their role in the West was more of a tactic, a means of weakening the West so that communism  could eventually more readily prevail.

      The great sustained threat to the West has come from European fascism, particularly from Nazism and its implacable philosophical opposition to Western ideals. State-based Nazism was defeated in World War II, but “Fourth Reich” Nazism has lived on and become ever more powerful.

      The “Fourth Reich” came into its own in the late 1960s and 1970 when it adopted the tactic, above all, of mobilizing the Third World masses, both internally and externally, as a force to bring down the West and destroy Western ideals. Now the Arabs countries and the greater Muslim world are the bulwark of this attack. It still has as its goal the destruction of the British Israel ideal, Platonic idealism and, despite all protestation, Old Testament law. All of these concepts are antithetical to and utterly incompatible with Arab and greater Islamic civilization.

      How we deal with this threat in the face of an internal element which says, even when they are invited  to embrace our ideal “all-in” and thrive under it, that there is no “we” that they also are part of is the challenge we face today. Can it be overcome? Well, there may be a tipping point. Perhaps we have reached already. Maybe it was reached decades ago when the Soviet Union still existed and the meta-manipulators of the KGB were at the height of their powers. Some of us think that the Soviet Union folded not because it had failed but because it had fulfilled its mission, and under its own doctrine was no longer needed.

      Speaking of the Jewish uprising of 70 A.D., it has been noted that after that the Roman Empire never again expanded, and, in fact, began its long decline exactly at that time.

      The Romans did not know that that event was their tipping point. We don’t know what our is either, but we may have passed it. Or if we haven’t, if we keep on believing that control of the government, as weighty as its presence might be, is the thing most essential to our survival, we do not have much of a chance.  

      • Indiana Guy

        That is an interesting assertion, but what evidence do you back it up with. I see none. I see that the NAZIs were totally defeated. I see no evidence that there were any NAZIs mobilizing any third world masses. What I see is that parasitical third world masses have been migrating to feed off of the first world hosts. The promise of welfare after crossing a border is what has mobilized these masses.

        • MikeofAges

            Note, I said state-based Nazism. As to the idea of “Fourth Reich”, start with the tenure of Kurt Waldhiem as Secretary-General of the United Nations. Lack of knowledge of the idea of the “Fourth Reich” is just indicative of a lack of knowledge of recent world history. Forgivable, but correctable also. Yes, you can take a different point of view. But I didn’t invent the concept.

      • Indiana Guy

        The Soviet Union Collapsed because of the failure of central planning. To suggest that human beings running that system would abandon their power and position because they “fulfilled their mission” is jut plain absurd. They held onto power for as long as they could. The economy was at the point where necessary sectors of it were going on strike, crippling the system. They faced a choice, either mass slaughter to motivate with more fear, or give up power. They were at the point though were mass slaughter was no longer a realistic option. The USSR ,in the twenties and thirties, had millions of people to slaughter, with millions waiting in the wings to take the positions that those who were just slaughtered had found unacceptable. After WWII, and the huge loss of life, the government could not  realistically use this tactic again. The USSR just lived off of the residual fear of what it had done from the 20’s to the 40’s. The government was still heavy handed, still sent some people to gulags, but this was not the same thing as starving to death 10 million people in one year as had happened in the Ukrain. It was not the same thing as the mass deportations to Siberia that were happening in the Baltic Republics after those republics had been invaded. It was not the same as the massive purges of Stalin.The system just literally ground to a halt. People were getting paid money but they found nothing in the stores to buy. When the coal workers went on strike, that shut down any production that was left, it went right up through the system, like dominoes falling. In the past the government could temporarily divert food and other necessities from one place of shortage to another place of severe shortage, in a temporary fix to placate workers. It reached the point though where there just were too many places of severe shortage, too many fires and no water to put them out.

        • MikeofAges

           I was there, and my spin of the “fall of communism” was that it only represented a change in doctrine on the part of the international communist movement. Said so to my friends, in fact said sarcastically, “Don’t worry. Here in the West, our own communists are still firmly in charge.” Have subsequent event proven this point of view wrong? 

          • Charles Edward Lincoln III

            I sometimes wonder whether the Eastern Block Communists held out just long enough to make sure that the Western Communists were fully entrenched, and then their (the Eastern Block Communists) role as Cold War Opponents became useless…. and it was Reagan and Bush-I who both allowed Western Communism to become set in stone in the United States and who claimed victory over the (by then irrelevant) Eastern Block….

          • David Ashton

            You have a point – the joke is “The Marxists left the Kremlin and moved into more comfortable Ivy League quarters.” The Cultural Marxists/New Leftists/Deconstructionists/Critical Theorists/Anti-Racists/LGBT-activists/African History Revisionists, etc. are not “fascists”.

      • Indiana Guy

        There is no cause and effect relationship between the Jewish Uprising and the decline of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire declined because the bureaucracy and the government became too big, too expensive. The tax burden became too great, and through corruption, those with the most means had themselves removed from the tax roles.The burden on those left then became crushing while the extravagance of those at the top became more obscene. As the tax burden became unbearable, people volunteered to be a slave, or a “serf” on an estate of someone who either had tax immunity or a very reduced tax rate. That was the genesis of the Feudal system. Once established, the loyalties of the common person were to their landlord, not the state. No one had any interest in keeping the Roman state alive anymore, it was a crushing burden. Rome in the west just evaporated as the society crystalized into feudal estates. The barbarian invasions just eradicated the weak pretense of any Roman state that remained. The atrocities of the barbarian hordes were seen as not much worse than those of the Roman tax collectors. The only connection between the Jewish revolt and the fall of Rome is that they both had a connection to taxes. The state of Israel had been granted tax immunity in a treaty where it agreed to become a client state of the empire,  that  immunity was then later rescinded. Israel had been duped into giving up it’s sovreignty.

        • Dave4088

          You’re forgetting that civil wars, plagues and childlessness nearly wiped out the old Roman racial stock and the unique gene combinations that gave rise to the indomitable Roman people were all but lost.   

          • Charles Edward Lincoln III

            I’m not sure that any convincing case could be made that the “Barbarian” infusion of Germanic bloodlines (Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Franks and later Normans) into Italy, Spain, and France degraded the genetic population of the territory that was once the Roman Empire.

            Partially “blackened” (miscegenated Moorish) Muslims from Africa came into Southern Italy (in small numbers) and Spain (in greater numbers and staying for a much longer time, 600 years in fact) MUCH later, after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. Even in Morocco, the source of the very word “Moor”, and formerly unified in the Caliphate of Cordoba with the Southern half-to-two thirds of Spain, until 1492, truly black, sub-Saharan negroid types are distinctly looked down on…..for whatever that socio-cultural bit of trivia might be worth…..

            The non-Indo-European speaking Huns and Turks who conquered the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) are largely white people…. even if, for the most part, Turks are Muslims rather than Christians in the land that used to be called “Greater Greece” in Asia Minor… and was the center of Christianity for a thousand years after the fall of the Western Empires.

        • MikeofAges

           Not that you had much choice about your sovereignty if you happened to lie with the orbit of Roman power. No, the Jewish rebellion did not cause the fall of the Roman Empire. But it is a convenient marker.

    • Gracchus123

      My race is my nation.

      • JohnEngelman

        The group I care about is the group of those who are intelligent, widely read, well informed, cultivated, and decent. I do not care if they went to college. I do not care how much money they make. I do not care which country they were born in. I do not care about their race.

        • Dan Reardon

          Chances are they will not want you though. Because they DO care about race.

          • JohnEngelman

            Then why have I had so many Jewish and Oriental friends?

    • Petronius

      Natio was the Roman goddess of birth and our word “nation” comes from her name.

      From the Latin natio = race, stock, tribe.

      An extensive aggregate of persons, so closely associated with each other by common descent, language, or history, as to form a distinct race or people, usually organized as a separate political state and occupying a definite territory.

      – Oxford English Dictionary

  • frederickdixon

    I think that what you need (and this was more than hinted at in Mr. Wolff’s article) is a civil rights movement – “Rights for Whites” – to take on affirmative action and all the other injustices now heaped on whites, and to do so in a big, noisy, confrontational way. This should drag the issues under the noses of the public, energise the racially aware and get some people thinking about things which had not previously occurred to them.

    This should take place outside any political party, but it would provide a platform for future Republican candidates to run with, along with securing borders, deporting illegals etc. You would get your extra two or three per cent and would begin the process of consolidating the white vote.

  • Athling

    The number of non-white children in the U.S. is now over 50%. Republicans trying to consolidate the white vote is merely a short term solution. In fifteen years the non-white children will be old enough to vote and will increasingly exercise their political will over whites.

    A few predictions:

    The Republican party is now damaged beyond repair at the federal level. They will move to the Left in an attempt to remain viable with great appeasement toward Hispanics and women who expect abortion on demand. The outreach to non-whites and societal misfits in general will increase. All of this will of course further alienate cultural conservatives whom the Republicans will lose in numbers equivalent to those gained by the leftward movement. Federally speaking, the Republican party will become increasingly indistinguishable from the Democrat party.

    At the state level the Republican party will increase in strength and resolve. Look for greater tension between the states and the federal government as the states resist federally mandated Leftism in all its forms. The states will begin fighting illegal immigration more aggressively and so on.

    I see a return to the tensions present immediately before the civil war between states rights and federal fiat. Our voices will be heard at the state level. Not the federal. Failing this, secession is the only way to a white homeland on the American continent. We could not compete with the tidal wave of racial aliens now among us and the ignorant whites who fail to see any further into the future than the end of their nose.

    There is one and only one final solution. Whites, like any other race, must have their own nation with defined and defended borders. You simply can not share your geographic space with racial aliens except in very small numbers.

    • TeutonicKnight67


    • JohnEngelman

      The states that are most Republican have the largest number of blacks. If they separate from the United states what are they going to do with all those blacks? 

      • Athling

        I only see through the veil darkly. The last political stand for whites will be through the states. This will buy us more time. It will reignite the old flame present in our early history — state sovereignty vs federal authority. As the federal government becomes more anti-white as it now must the states will begin resisting and challenging federal power with increasing intensity. Whites will become more politically active through state and local government as they sense political representation slipping away…

        Ultimately, the only way to remain viable as a distinct race of people is through geographic isolation. This is true for all people for all time. How we get there remains to be seen.

        It should be noted that unlike Britain or Israel who have only a small amount of territory, the large majority of U.S. territory remains unpopulated. There is enough land for whites to form a new nation for their own people. Let the non-whites fend for themselves as we begin again.

        • Tucker

           And, Mr. Engelman will be helping those non-whites fend for themselves, because he loves them so much. 

          Plus, since it was Mr. Engelman’s family who imported them here and who coddled them, who pandered to them, and who were responsible for giving them trillions of dollars worth of handouts that were stolen from the hard earned fruits of millions of White people’s labor, and who also made sure they had government sanctioned discriminatory advantages over the native White male population in as many areas of society as possible – then, I am pretty sure that these non-whites will welcome Mr. Engelman and the rest of his family with open arms and, probably, also with gaping shark-like jaws.

          Are you looking as forward to that future for yourself as the rest of us are, Johnny boy?

  • sickandtired

    Notice how, excluding Hawaii, the states with the most liberal whites are the states with the lowest number of non whites.

  • Hal K

    Google “2008 and 2012 Election Vote Totals by Race” and you will find a blog entry I wrote with 2008 and 2012 vote totals by race.  Obama lost more than 7 million white votes going from 2008 to 2012.  Romney lost a little more than 2 million.  Given that Obama’s share of the white vote was smaller to begin with, the number of white votes he lost is pretty striking.  The numbers say that many whites became disillusioned with Obama, but instead of voting for Romney they stayed home.

  • Bobby

    I agree completely with some commentators like Bill O’Reilly, (I agree with him, I don’t like him), that the simple problem that sunk Romney and will sink ANY Republican in the future that runs on a similar, “pull yourselves up by your bootstraps campaign” is the fact that 1)there are far too many public employees who will overwhelmingly vote Democrat, and 2) Since the Republicans have been complicit in enthusiastically OUTSOURCING AMERICANS JOBS, what in the hell do they think people who are unemployed, having a difficult time getting employed, and being scared of losing the jobs they still have want to hear, “pay for everything your own way”? Is that the formula that Republicans decided will win for them? Idiots.

  • I’m no advocate of conspiracy theories, but there is an apparent pattern. There are those who seek to impose their altruistic notion of social justice by diluting Western culture through Bulkanization. Sad to say, they are winning. 

    The outcome will stymie and even reverse the creativity of Western innovation and invention.

  • Nate

    Republicans are really in a Catch-22 situation now.

  • anarchyst

    Nullification and fully informed jurors are two ways to “take back” our country . . .

    • Gracchus123

      Thomas Woods wrote a good book entitled NULLIFICATION. Then there is the Fully Informed Jury Association. Read and join.

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    Mr. Romney would have earned much higher dividends
    courting the white vote than by increasing his Hispanic share.

    I hate to say it, but pandering to minorities is courting the White vote – the deluded nice White liberal vote and the clueless nice color-blind conservative vote.  In areas that are steeped in political correctness, coming out against affirmative action for example could be the kiss of death among deluded Whites.  We are our own worse enemy, and America is dead.  The mental defectives and the moral degenerates have overwhelmed their host.

    Regarding the Asian vote, most Asians are clustered in three states – CA, NY and HI.  Since all three would go to Obama anyway, I see nothing decisive about their preference this election.  While it may seem strange that high earners would vote for a party infamous for its confiscatory taxes, I would say that Asians are more comfortable with socialism than Whites.  This is because they lack the creativity to deal with risk. 

    Most Asians I know personally are either fascinated by or totally averse to risk.  Some gamble compulsively, but most take the safest road possible.  Freedom and capitalism of course are built on risk – the freedom to succeed or fail – with an endless cycle of success,
    decline and renewal.  Socialism aims to do away with risk and replace it with planning, central control and conformity.  It also pretends to be more scientific and historically inevitable.

    One reason why Asians are hyped on education is because White learning has created real magic.  We make real marvels in the real world, tangible and not philosophical.  This is something that Asian cultures were too corrupt and rigid to come up with.  So partly driven by jealousy and greed, Asians jump into Western learning with both feet, only to find the dark heart of academia beats with a blood of moronic Marxist drivel.  Asians that come here by the second generation are spouting inanities about race that make their grandparents cringe.

    In short, Asians may have high IQs, but they lack the creativity to deal with risk, and the innate critical thinking needed to reject Marxist propaganda.

    • Achaean

      This is likewise my experience with Asians; one of the drawbacks of IQ analysis is that it measures only the cognitive side of the human personality and only  with great difficulty or through reductive methods can it measure other attributes such as risk-taking, creativity, individuality.

      Asians, moreover, do sense that there is a diversity gravy train which they can join with great benefit; they are already major beneficiries of hiring across campuses particularly in their fields of  strength; in Canada one cannot walk into a science department without encountering Asians — and don’t assume they were the best candidates, when it comes to teaching and vibrant publication records they are not up to par with many white candidates, but they still get the jobs.

      • Tucker

          Asians,  from what experience I have had with them over the years, seem to me to be light years ahead of the vast majority of my fellow Whites when it comes to grasping the realities of race and understanding the vast differences that exist between the races.    However, this rule would probably apply to Asians who are 30 or older, but might not be nearly as true among Asians under 30 – due to the poisonous brainwashing that these younger Asians are getting by sitting on their sofas, glued to the Cultural Marxist, racial mongrelization promoting, electronic brain poisoning device (TV).

        However, I tend to suspect that even the younger Asians – at least of some specific varieties, i.e., Japanese, Chinese, Korean primarily – tend to either date and marry within their own tribe, or they will decide to engage in some gene hijacking and grab onto a White European.     I have a gut feeling that these flavors of Asians sense that race mixing with Whites is a plus, whereas they are less likely to climb down the evolutionary totem pole and race mix with blacks or mestizos.        Filipinos, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Hmong, and a few others – who as a rule seem to be viewed as being lower on the Asian evolutionary totem pole  by Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans who I’ve spoken to, are more likely to race mix with blacks or mestizos, and also with embarrassingly desperate, clearly dysfunctional White men – usually white military guys, who tend to lack any sense of strict discipline with regards to the appropriate placement of Mr. John Henry.  

        At any rate, I have a strong sense that Asians who do climb on board the Democrat Party are eventually going to run into some conflicts that they are not going to like.    Few Asians really believe that Marxist baloney about the equality of the races, and I predict that it won’t be very long before Asians will find themselves becoming the ‘new White demons’, and become victims of their own superior IQ and work ethic.   Blacks and mestizos inside the Democrat Party will be screaming about Asians being too dominant and they’ll be demanding to be given affirmative action preferences over Asians, just like they have been getting over Whites for the last 50 plus years.     

        I will personally find this development to be hilariously funny, and I intend to enjoy it tremendously.   I can hardly wait for the fireworks to begin!    

        Meanwhile, let us keep banging that drum for secession and our White Ethnostate – and remember, folks.   Exclusive White Ethnostate means exactly that, and that will not include any other races – no matter what their IQ and work ethic might be.   This includes what many of us in the White community have viewed and referred to as the ‘model minority’, meaning Asians of certain varieties.   These people are not us, and they are a racial competitor – and despite the fact that they are bright and hard working and usually have strong family values, this does not change the fact that they are a racial competitor.  

        The bottom line is simple.  The disaster that has happened to the nation of our ancestors as a result of this suicidal cancer of multi-racialism and multi-culturalism, a disease that was imposed upon us without our consent by enemies who seek our racial genocide,  cannot be permitted to happen to our people again.    This point must be non-negotiable and, this time, we must codify the racial foundation of our new White homeland into law – and leave no margin of error or no room for any future termites to reappear and start their destructive process all over again.

        Oh, and by the way.   For all the elitist, snobbish, big money obsessed White Republicans out there who helped betray their fellow White racial brothers and sisters by letting their greed and avarice and lust to import non-white cheap labor so they could increase their personal profits?    I want to assure every last one of you race traitorous jerks that you will continue to have as much non-white cheap labor as you need, because every one of you dirt bags are going to be denied residency in our new White Ethnostate.   That’s right, ya’ll are going to be living with the homey’s.

        At least for as long as your money holds out, at which point, they’ll probably toss you in a stew pot and eat you.

  • Achaean

    Great Essay:

    Waking Up from the American Dream

    A White Nationalist Memo to White Male Republicans

    Gregory Hood, http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/11/a-white-nationalist-memo-to-white-male-republicans/


    • That was very good. I encourage everyone here to take a look.

  • Dave4088

    “Why are Asians now the second-most reliable Obama supporters after blacks? We have no good answer. ”

    I’m shocked.  The Sinophiles at Amren have been telling us that since Asians have high i.q.’s they are the natural allies of whites, since we, too, have high i.q.’s.    It seems the hoped for alliance isn’t being reciprocated by American Asians as they are voting for the candidate that is perceived as the friendliest to their racial interests and agenda. 

    Every group is playing racial hardball these days.  That is, every group except for whites who’ve swallowed the lie of multiculturalism and racial equality.    

    • Germanacus

      Asians identify more with non-Whites. They voted accordingly.

  • Hal K

    Obama lost millions of white votes going from 2008 to 2012, but these people stayed home instead of voting for Romney.  This is the single most interesting statistical observation that can be made about this election.  As I mentioned before, I wrote a blog entry about this, which you can find by Googling “2008 and 2012 Election Vote Totals by Race” (with quotes included).  The exact 2012 vote total isn’t known yet, but it is pretty clear that Romney’s white vote count will be about the same as McCain’s, while Obama will have lost millions of white votes.

  • Petronius

    “Whites in the South overwhelmingly supported Mr. Romney, especially in Mississippi (89 percent of the voters chose him) and Alabama (84 percent).”

    It is ironic that the Republican Party, which now depends on Southern voters for its tenuous existence, persistently strives to distance itself publicly from the specter of Southern influence.  

    The Party has eagerly promoted black, Hispanic, Asian, and female Republicans into the national spotlight, yet has never run a Southerner on the national ticket, has never appointed a Southerner to the Supreme Court, and (except for James Baker) has never appointed a Southerner to an important cabinet post.  In fact, Republican presidents have appointed more Democrats to their cabinets than Southern Republicans.  When Mitt Romney campaigned for the Republican nomination in 2008, he emphatically declared the Confederate flag to be unworthy of respect.  When George W. Bush was governor of Texas, he had a plaque honoring Texas Confederate Veterans removed from the Texas Supreme Court.  And when any Southern Republican Congressman (e.g., Trent Lott) says something that is not totally PC, the Grand Old Party gives him the heave-ho.  

  • Mr. Wolff missed something in his otherwise fine article.  Namely, what he felt was necessary to do in order to pander to Hispanics:  “For some Hispanics, an illegal immigrant amnesty, more Hispanic immigration, and more handouts might do the trick.”

    Immigration is probably not the number one pander issue the GOP needs to engage in in order to win the Hispanic vote (it’s probably second-largest.) Rather, affirmative action is (job set-asides, college scholarships limited to Latinos or minorities in general, more governmental Diversity offices populated by Hispanics, bonus points added to college admission, etc., etc.)  That’s what gets Democrats the vast bulk of black votes as well as probably the majority of Hispanic ones.

    The Open Borders mainstream media shrewdly hides the affirmative action matter in order to mislead Republicans that they only need to support Open Borders in order to get the Hispanic vote, causing the GOP to think, hey, why not, if Open Borders is the only thing needed to get Hispanics let’s do that.  But in reality, even if the GOP goes open-border they will still not get Hispanic support due to the affirmative action issue, and if the GOP is not going to jump through that second hoop it probably shouldn’t bother jumping through the first either.

    • Germanacus

      A stunning comment. We are losing our entire nation bit by bit because of the ocean of non-Whites that have been allowed in and now we’re considering how to get the Hispanic vote?! Do any of you realize the seriousness of the situation we face? We have lost control of our own government — created by and for WHITES because of non-Whites. The situation will only get worse because our children are less than fifty percent of the population! Any idea what this means for White America?

      It is only a matter of time. The situation cannot be reversed. We will go the way way of South Africa, by degrees to be sure, but it will happen.

      • I was trying to strengthen Mr. Wolff’s arguments about why going Open Borders will not help the GOP get the Hispanic vote–you’d still need to outdo the Democrats on Affirmative Action, very difficult.  Therefore, the GOP should not go Open Border.

        Right now, after writing the above, I just read ( http://www.vdare.com/articles/it-s-2006-all-over-again-another-gop-amnesty-needs-to-be-defeated ) neocon pundit Krauthammer claim, highly incorrectly, that it’s just immigration the GOP needs to bend on to get the Hispanic vote: “A problem fixable with a single policy initiative is not structural. It is solvable.”  But it’s *not* fixable with a single policy initiative, as I wrote.  This misinformation is exactly what I was writing about.

        • Charles Krauthammer is another one that can take a long walk…if you catch my drift.  He’s yet another one dancing around and whizzing on our political corpse here in Todd’s campaign.

          As an aside, the left wing can’t complain about conservative talk radio and Fox News anymore, when the 2nd highest rated person on both, Sean Hannity, has now come out for amnesty, and any amnesty virtually guarantees Democrat hegemony over American politics.

          • Yes, in my view neocons like Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, and David Frum are really just high-IQ liberals who enjoy fooling conservatives to think that they are on their side.  Also, FOX News really isn’t anti-illegal immigrant as their sister website FOX News Latino betrays the company’s true colors to be immigration enthusiast.

          • Bill Kristol is now ditching opposition to higher tax rates, which was the last “conservative” policy position he had left.

            Murdoch is openly for amnesty and open borders. This is why Fox News regular and especially Fox News Aztlan are or are becoming open borders.

    •  I think you cantered slightly from the point Mr. Wolf was trying to make… that pandering and appeasement to any minority wants on immigration, social handouts, etc.. and the GOP stops BEING the GOP.  I read Mr. Wolfs analysis as a striking affirmation that the only course for survival is a massive consolidation of the white population into a single party politic. 

      The questions remains however, how to motivate and consolidate those whites that still believe in holding hands and and singing Kum-ba- ya?  Massive economic collapse, the barbarians at their door?

  • VirginiaCity

    Since Romney only needed a few percent to win why is this the end of the hetrosexual capitalist normal sane mostly white party and the dominance of the homosexual scumbag lying socialist cheating demonic party of perverts?

    Has ever occured that the election of the socialist pervert  mutt to the WH was rigged? Why is this not being checked out? 

    Clearly the early voting was the key for the liberal demonic white faggots, spics and groids wasnt it?

    Eliminate early voting? That was the key among others such as vote counting. 

  • Interesting


    Seems an expert analyst shares some of this opinion…

    • Tucker

      “It is bad enough that America is now divided into red and blue states.
      It is divided into red and blue people as well based, not on their
      opinions, but on their demographics ”

      Anyone besides me find it infuriating that Dick Morris would have the vomit invoking audacity, the gall, the chutzpah – to make a statement like this – and pretend as though he was gravely ‘worried’ and ‘distressed’ about this division and racial conflict, when it was the very tribe he belongs to who deliberately engineered this criminal, genocidal, unwanted demographic transformation and ultimate destruction of White Western civilization?

      The old ‘Who, Me?’ innocent clown act doesn’t cut it anymore, Dick the Toe Sucker.    The genocide targets are aware of who is responsible for this nightmare.   

      We know who the owner is of the noxious odor that now is in the air, and which has guaranteed the collapse and destruction of the greatest civilization ever known to mankind.  

  • The facts and the truth are clear, everyone EXCEPT whites vote as a race based tribe for the sole purpose of marginalization OF whites.  Yet, these statistic clearly show that if whites would simply follow the aggressors lead and join as a racial identity politic we could regain control of the electorate, and in doing so change the flow of immigration and social programs.

    The disheartening statistic is that such a large proportion of whites have been indoctrinated into self loathing that asking them to participate in their own salvation based on white identity is futile.

  • Liddell

    While Blacks pretend that Obama is Black, and Whites vote for Obama because he acts White, Asians take to him because he is neither genuinely White nor Black and therefore seems like one of them.

  • Achaean

    “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is
    racial tension. By pounding into the consciousness of the dark races, that for
    centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them into the program
    of the Communist Party. In America, we aim for several victories. While
    inflaming the Negro minorities against the whites, we will instill in the
    whites a guilt complex for their supposed exploitation of the Negroes. We will
    aid the Blacks to rise to prominence in every walk of life and in the world of
    sports and entertainment. With this prestige,, the Negro will be able to
    intermarry with the whites and will begin the process which will deliver
    America to our cause.” (Jewish Playwright Israel Cohen, A
    Radical Program For The Twentieth Century. Also entered into the Congressional
    Record on June 7, 1957, by Rep. Thomas Abernathy).

    • David Ashton

      I do not think this quotation is actually genuine. It may of course reflect as a concise parody an attitude suspected of some Jewish Communists. It is enough, more accurate and wiser to trace the evidence in the public domain of the CPUSA and NAACP history and programs regarding black people.

  • Cyb

    I have an idea.  Both parties should submit a budget and tax rates to support it. So democrats want a massive hand out budget then they have to submit a 70% tax.  Republicans will promote a lean government with 25% tax.  Then after you vote, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE TAX RATE OF HOW YOU VOTED REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS.

  • Enoch_Power

    The people behind mass immigration also own the media

  • Wallstreet110233

    Romney was a good man. Obama a useless POS. Win the battle but lose the war as this only galvanizes the white race and they needed it badly.  Gotta blame the Bush Crime Family for it since he flooded the border with 30 million spics to build those 15 million foreclosed homes and un-jacked the economy with the Bush Housing Bubble bust.  It hasnt yet to recover once aftet the half black Santa Claus took over. ..

    • Tucker

       Reflecting back on that famous picture of Jorge Herbert Walker Bush Sr, sitting on a sofa a few feet away from Manuel Noreiga when “Poppy” was VP – and being keenly aware of the very suspicious and well documented compilation of factual evidence that very strongly suggests deep involvement in that Iran-Contra era CIA drug smuggling operation – it is pretty clear to anyone with a brain bigger than a marble that keeping those borders wide open is of paramount importance, at least to anyone who might be a member of one of the most criminal, corrupt, and sleazy crime families to ever poison the American political landscape.   After all, it wouldn’t be good for the drug cartels down in Mexico, Central and South America – if some $25k per year Border Patrol agent was allowed to inspect what was in the back of those Mexican trucks before they were allowed to enter the USA, right? 

      But, you know what?   I still run across a lot of White Americans who, when the name of GHWB comes up  in a conversation – these clueless numbskulls will parrot some line of truly ridiculous baloney about how he was a ‘war hero’ and how he was so much better than his mentally retarded, cocaine brain damaged, convicted war criminal son. 

      News Flash for White Numbskulls:   Turn off your stinking TV set, cure yourself of your addiction to watching black felons with 4 feet of dred locks hanging out of their football helmets playing a kids game, and start doing some research on the people who you vote for.

  • Nathan Durhing

    There are three main reasons Romney lost to a president
    presiding over one of the worst economies ever. These are not the only reasons,
    but social issues, immigration, and the loss of important constitutional
    protections are “base” issues appealing to the “broken glass” voters in each
    respective party. Less ideological voters do not perceive vast differences
    between these two candidates, and independent voters probably even less so. All
    the chatter about demographics and lack of moderation happens to each party
    after a loss. It’s ridiculous to think that either party will pull base voters
    from the other. Romney was correct when he noted the 47% that will never vote
    for him or any Republican, and the same holds true for Democrats. While the
    “Main Stream” media has been despicably partisan, Romney never developed a
    message to adequately address the economy and he probably couldn’t garner the
    trust of an important part of the Republican base. The “getable” votes for
    Romney were never his due to three significant reasons.

    First, above all, Wall Street is doing well. As the biggest
    group of contributors to both candidates and their parties, they must and will
    be served. People doing well in this economy see the very good returns for the
    last couple of years as a reflection of a recovering economy, at least for big
    business. Even if people believe that Romney is the one that represents this
    group, it’s also obvious that Obama has not hurt them either. It is tough to
    make the case that the economy is doing poorly overall, when Wall Street is
    doing so well. This provides comfort for the “Wall Streeters” and evidence for
    the “Occupiers.”

    Second, the results of the housing crash have affected the
    economy for most people and it has yet to be adequately addressed. The American
    dream of owning a home has supported an economy that heavily depends on
    consumer spending for growth and jobs. Nearly everyone in both parties
    supported the bailout of banks and Wall Street to “save” the economy, but
    argued about saving Main Street. While Obama has been ineffective addressing
    this problem, most see that his heart in the right place. Romney has ignored
    this issue or taken the “let them go bankrupt” (same as Detroit) approach.
    There are millions of home owners paying “underwater” mortgages, trying to do
    the right thing, and waiting for the other “shoe to drop” when interest rates
    start rising. Much of this group of people is the Republican base and they are
    being left to the mercy of the big banks. I saw my first “Republicans for
    Obama” bumper sticker on Election Day.

    Third, while much of the Democratic base sees
    Christianity, indeed any religion as a cult, Romney’s religion is seen as a
    cult by a chunk of the Republican base. All the numbers are not in yet, but
    point to a lower turnout in this election than in 2008. It appears true for
    Democrats, but even truer for Republicans and Independents. Obama won by 2-3,
    000,000 votes, while it appears nearly 6,000,000 potential Republican voters
    sat this one out.

  • zWsA

    The data in the article is stunning.

    If Whites decided the 2012 election, even the most unconquerable bastions of liberalism would have gone red. California and Minnesota would have gone to Romney, while New York would have been a toss-up, with 49% for each candidate. These have always been considered “blue states,” but demographics tell a much more interesting story.With the exception of the South, states are only as blue as their minority population and/or proximity to Canada.

  • 1joewebb_1

    What is the breakdown of married v. unmarried White women who voted for Obama?  I read that married white  women voted more for Romney than unmarried white women.

  • kjh64

    This article states that Whites are 63 percent of the populace. The truth of the matter is nobody knows what percent of the populace anyone is. There are two kinds of people, citizens and non-citizens, and the US cenus does not differentiate. Non-citizens, whether legal or not legal, are counted as Americans, as long as they are living in the USA at the time of the census. Ironically, American citizens living abroad, are not counted in the census. If you differentiated between citizens and non-citizens as well as counting US citizens abroad, that would give you a much truer picture. Remove the non-citizen part of the populace  and that would subtract 40 million illegals from Mexico as well as those who’ve overstayed their visas and it would remove legal non-citizens. Then the percentage of Whites would go up considerably. I think the census, in order to be accurate, needs to seperate the two categories. One should be the number and racial etc. breakdown of actual citizens, these are the only “Americans”. The other category should be non-citizens who are residents. These people are not Americans but foreign nationals residing in the USA.

  • Levi Dogesby

    We need to advance a positive white racial identity among the younger generations. That means concentrating on white achievements and civilization, avoid hatemongering and denigrating other folk (unless forced to, obviously). Another point worth mentioning: elites of any race can NEVER be trusted to look after their own common people. Think of King Richard and King John bleeding England dry in medieval times (John had to be arm-twisted into signing Magna Carta); think of Europe’s elites since WW2 opening the floodgates to mass non-white immigration; think of the current colonization of Africa by Chinese settlers (now over one million), clearly aided and abetted by the bribery of African rulers.
    We have to do this ourselves, at a grassroots level. Even small actions like boycotting produce from non-white/unfriendly countries (like Mexico)…if enough of us do it, and voice our reasons, it will make an impact. If a vacation abroad must be taken, go to a friendly white country like Australia or Germany. Even better, stay in the USA and spend your cash in Utah or Arizona. There are many, many actions we can undertake, the cumulative effects of which will have awesome consequences.

  • JohnEngelman
    • David Ashton

      For once I think you have a point, certainly with regard to white workers. With your enthusiasm for high-IQ money-makers, though, it would be interesting to see your outline for a national US economic policy.

      • JohnEngelman

        I lack affection for “high-IQ money-makers.” I simply recognize that superior intelligence is becoming increasingly important in our economy.

        I admire European Social Democracy, although I acknowledge that it has only worked in countries where nearly everyone is white.

        In the United States President Lyndon Johnson declared “unconditional war on poverty” in 1964. This helped individuals with intelligence and motivation. For the most part it amounted to making welfare benefits more generous and easier to qualify for. In the United States being on welfare is similar to being on the dole in the UK.

        By the late 1960s hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of blacks quite low wage jobs and went on welfare. They knew the good life was out of reach. They opted for the easy life. Whites are less likely to behave that way.

  • ImTellinYa

    Asians may have high levels of personal responsibility, but they are also rigid, frightened people who tend to automatically support tyranny. They are also most comfortable when social unanimity is enforced by government, and since the left-wing MUST do this, and eagerly WANTS to do this in order to make sure that people accept their insane agenda, then Asians will tend to be left-wing voters. Individualism and freedom are anathema to Asians.

    Look at ALL the cultures and countries Asians come from. Tyranny is the default mode. Japan is perhaps the least objectionable and works the best, but there too the government is extremely invasive.

    As Whites we cannot indulge in the kind of magical thinking that would have our irons pulled out of the fire by supposed nonWhite “natural conservatives” as the Hispanics and Asians are fondly thought by many deluded White people to be.

    The fact is, White people are the ONLY people to have institutionalized the concept of individual rights and a limited government. We also invented the modern world.

    Hispanics are too stupid, greedy, criminal, etc. They are only marginally better than Blacks. Asians are too rigid, frightened, superstitious, conformist and slow to innovate.

    If we want our country and our civilization back, we are going to have to take it back with no help at all from the lively, vibrant and diverse. It is really that simple and, admittedly, that grim.

  • JohnEngelman

    From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself.

    Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.

    In case you are wondering, this did not have to happen. The Mitt Romney for President entity does not end with Romney’s Tuesday night loss. There are papers to be filed with various federal commissions and bills to be paid.


  • JohnEngelman
  • JohnEngelman

    November 18th

    (CNN) – Newt Gingrich had harsh words Sunday for GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s suggestion that he lost the election because President Barack Obama offered “gifts” to African-Americans, Hispanics, and young voters.

    “I just think it’s nuts,” Gingrich said on ABC. “I mean, first of all, it’s insulting.”

    “The job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. If we can’t offer a better future that is believable to more people, we’re not going to win,” said Gingrich, who launched blistering attacks on Romney last spring while seeking the presidential nomination himself.

    Revelation of Romney’s comments drew criticism from others within his own party, such as Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal – who said a winning strategy does not involve “insulting (voters) and saying their votes were bought” – and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who said, “Rhetoric like this keeps digging a hole for the Republican Party.”…

    CNN exit polls showed Romney won white voters, while Obama carried 93% of African-American voters, 71% of Latino voters, and 73% of Asian voters. Obama outperformed Romney among voters under 39 years of age, while Romney carried a majority of voters over 40.


  • Joseph

    Excellent analysis standing in factual contrast to that of our swarms of venerated Republican pundits promoting more “compassionate conservatism” which is compassionate only to the takers and merciless to the producers.

  • Funruffian

    I think I have a simple and cogent anwer as to why Asians are voting for the Non-White democrat. Asians know that they can outperform any of the ethnic races. The only race getting in their way of total US domination is White America. So by default, if they destroy the party of the traditional conservative White person, they can take over and dominate everyone. After all, their talents and intelligence rivals that of the White race. So it is their way of gaining power. They feel no loyalty toward Whites whatsover.

  • Bobloblaw67

    The USA will become a one party third world banana republic