House Republicans Ready Plan to Avoid a Government Shutdown

Ashley Parker and Jeremy W. Peters, New York Times, December 3, 2014

House Republicans made progress on Tuesday steering some of their most conservative members away from a course that could shut down the government next week, a prospect that would badly damage the party as it prepares to take control of Congress in January.

Though the outcome remained unpredictable, Speaker John A. Boehner and his deputies were already counting votes for a two-part plan that they presented in a closed-door meeting in the Capitol.

The first step would be to allow a largely symbolic vote on legislation to dismantle President Obama’s executive action last month that delayed the deportation of millions of illegal immigrants. The second would be to fund the government through the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30, 2015, except for agencies that spend money to enforce Mr. Obama’s immigration action, like the Department of Homeland Security.

Congress would then revisit funding for those agencies early next year when Republicans are in control of both the House and the Senate and in a stronger position.

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House Republicans, however, are likely to lose enough conservative members that they will need at least some Democratic votes to pass their spending bill. Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader, has yet to decide whether to free her members to support it.

Drew Hammill, communications director for Ms. Pelosi, said, “We’re not inclined to support anything that diminishes the president’s legal authority to act on immigration.”

The resolution to undo the president’s action, however, would largely be a way for House Republicans to vent their displeasure, and could come as early as Thursday. Representative Ted Yoho of Florida, who came up with the plan, acknowledged that his measure would be a “symbolic message” if Senate Democrats did not take up his resolution–something Senator Harry Reid, Democrat of Nevada and the majority leader, has said he is not going to do.

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Then, House Republicans would vote next week on legislation to fund almost all of the government through September 2015, but use a short-term measure known as a continuing resolution to fund the Department of Homeland Security, the agency primarily responsible for overseeing the administration’s immigration policy, only into March. {snip}

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A complicating factor, however, is that the primary agency responsible for carrying out the president’s executive action, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, is financed entirely through fees collected from immigration applications and therefore cannot be defunded in the appropriations process.

Republicans seemed to acknowledge that there was little they could do to stop the president. Speaking after the meeting, Mr. Boehner said his conference seemed to realize that options were limited until next month.

“I think they understand that it’s going to be difficult to take meaningful action as long as we have Democratic control in the Senate,” he said.

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Some conservatives, however, are likely to vote against the spending bill because they believe it does not go far enough. They say they would prefer a measure to fund the entire government on a short-term basis so that they can pass a spending plan early next year shaped by Republican majorities.

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Many of the more conservative House members have been pushing for an aggressive response to the president, like a censure vote or cutting off funding for the Department of Homeland Security. Republicans for the most part on Tuesday said that would not happen.

But there were still many conservative Republicans who were openly dismissive of the leadership’s package. “I would vote no because I don’t think you fund any unconstitutional action, even if it’s over a short period of time,” said Representative Joe L. Barton, Republican of Texas.

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  • dd121

    Putting any faith in repubs is absolutely useless.

    • JohnEngelman

      I have faith that the Republican Party will continue to help the rich get richer.

      • dd121

        It doesn’t matter who’s in charge. The wealth continued to concentrate under dems too. But that’s not even the issue.

        • Bryce Armstrong

          Yeah really. Why cant we just have a party dedicated to wealth redistribution? What in the world are we to do?

      • MannyR

        Yeah because the Dems really care about the working class.

        • Xerxes22

          They did at one time.

          • SentryattheGate

            The Demoncat Party is a “collection of warring tribes that has come together in anticipation of common plunder”.

          • archer

            The dems were taken over years ago by the marxist left wing, there is no hope for them, the repubs are going to fund this abortion temporarily, so they say, that will be the end of them, but hey they got theirs, screw the country. If you’re a conservative you want the gov. shut down so they can’t do anymore harm.

          • SFLBIB

            If you’re a conservative you want the gov. shut down so they can’t do anymore harm.”

            True. Unfortunately, too many think government is a good thing and thus don’t want it shut down. A close friend and flaming liberal once told me, “I have lost all my faith in government.” Just think about that statement.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        “I have faith that the Republican Party will continue to help the rich get richer.”

        I have faith that the Republican Party will continue to give Israel trillions of dollars a year and all the weapons they can either use themselves or sell to our enemies for a profit.

        .

        • SentryattheGate

          The warhawk NeoCons (Irving Kristol, john & Norman Podhoretz, Henry Kissinger, Eliot Abrams, Eliot Cohen,…) pretty much took over the Republican party. Notice a pattern among those names?

          • Sick of it

            Simple pattern recognition is anti-Semitic apparently.

          • The Worlds Scapegoat

            You must never mention the real truth around Republicans or here because your comment will be deleted.

            .

      • SentryattheGate

        I am an independent voter, but the Republicans voted against the massive bail-outs that enriched Wall Street and big bankers, they voted against the NDAA which allows gov’t to indefinitely detain Americans w/o charges or trial, and they stand in the way of amnesty for illegals! That overly simplistic comment about Republicans being for the rich is

        • archer

          But they voted more for NAFTA than dems, do a search and see what our trade deficit is for ’11 and ’12, over 500 billion, that’s over a trillion in just 2 years. If it wasn’t for the fact that the petro dollar still rules we would all be living in tents. By the way that’s what these middle east wars are about, if your not part of the west’s central banking scam you are a target, like Libya and Iraq, Syria and Iran are next and them comes the big prize, Russia.

          • SentryattheGate

            Apparently we are of a like mind; I agree with what you’re saying. except that both parties approved of NAFTA. The proposed TTP and TTIP “trade” treaties will be NAFTA on steroids, yet most Americans have never heard of them and Congress, even though they have demanded, are not allowed to see the details! Trade deals are what stealthily brought in the European Union; robbing Europeans of their national sovereignty, control over their own budgets and borders! NAFTA and TTP/TTIP will bring in the NAU, the North American Union.

          • Sick of it

            If this government and ruling class disappeared, we would live a lot better. We in fact did live a lot better and have more opportunities before they increased their power, all within living memory.

        • Max

          -and to their credit they did oppose the Abominable Care Act.

      • SentryattheGate

        John, I hope you have read all the reply comments to your statement about Republicans—please read them and learn.

    • Realist

      Republicans….no balls, no brains.

  • Larry Klein

    GOP and USA = DOA

  • Better title for this article:

    Boehner plans surrender, donors celebrate.

    • Sick of it

      Numerous people have already stated that they will never vote Republican again if Obama’s amnesty is funded. They’d rather give up on the lot of them and try third party. Which we all should have done years ago really.

      • MannyR

        I’m one of those that has made such statements and you are correct, this is the GOPs last chance for me. They either play hardball or I’m sitting out further elections. I’ll wait until things get so bad, something like an American extreme right wing party comes to fruition. Until then I don’t give a fu€k.

      • SentryattheGate

        I been voting for some Third Party candidates, w/o remorse, since voting for Buchanan for President in 2000. Even if that Third Party candidate can’t win, a decent showing (>10%) will get $$$ to their party from the campaign funds volunteered by donors toward citizen-funded elections. I forgot the name of the fund.

    • ghettovalley

      Boehner really lives up to his name.

  • dmxinc

    Traitors again.

  • ZB01

    (Un)Official Catechism on the Realities of how Your Government Operates

    Question 665: When the government agrees to ‘fund’ something temporarily, what does it mean?

    Answer: When the government agrees to ‘fund’ something ‘temporarily’, it means that the government will provide funding for said item, project, or said group in perpetuity.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      Supposedly the only reason why we have an income tax is so we can pay off the debt from WWI. At least that is what they told everyone it was for.

      .

  • Bobbala

    Lucy moved the football and the American people landed flat on their backs …

  • JustSayin

    Well, you know. Lesser of two evils and all that….

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      Osama Bin Laden is the lesser of two evils. He has done less damage to white people and white countries than the two leading political parties have done.

      .

      • JustSayin

        Try to explain that to all the people mouthing that little gem off every election cycle to justify their being too chickensh*t to buck the status quo. Stabbing yourself in the eye with a pencil almost seems more productive at times.

  • It’s going to take something more than politics as usual to save us. I’m hoping for an economic collapse. With holiday spending looking weak and Putin causing Obama fits with his rejection of the petrodollar scheme that looks ready to implode, politics as usual will hopefully be a thing of the past real soon.

    The liberal press and the Democrats always trot out scare tactics when there’s a threat of limiting funding involved. And the Democrat president would of course shut down the national parks, and take similar actions to churn up anger toward Republicans.

    Tea Party Republicans who oppose immigration “reform” must stand on principle and work hard to get their message out. Funding an illegal, unconstitutional government is treason and that word needs to be on the table.

    So, shut Washington down and let the chips fall where they may.

    • flunkdaddy

      Same as the old USSR, let the USSA collapse, the sooner the better.

  • Oh great, more white betrayal from the stupid party!

  • Yves Vannes

    The states are going to have to carry the slack. Today, 17 states filed suit over Ozero’s amnesty plan. Wish it were 25 but 17 is a start. If they are serious maybe other states will join in.

  • DaveMed

    The second would be to fund the government through the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30, 2015, except for agencies that spend money to enforce Mr. Obama’s immigration action, like the Department of Homeland Security.
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    A government shutdown is actually a bad idea. Here’s what would happen:

    1. There would be significant inconvenience for federal employees and those who rely on federal dollars; Democrat or Republican.

    2. The federal government would make things as painful an annoying as possible for the average Joe.

    3. The media would batter us with pro-Democrat, anti-Republican/conservative propaganda.

    4. Average Joe would begin to resent Republicans/conservatives.

    5. Republicans would, ultimately, be forced to give in. Thereby ending off less popular and utterly humiliated. Again.

    I believe that the quoted text is more or less the plan put forth by NumbersUSA and Jeff Sessions. Are there better options?

  • Theron

    So, despite having a strong voter mandate, the Republicans are already caving! Stupid is as stupid does!

  • Evette Coutier

    So many conservatives thought taking congress away from the democrats would change things, and the GOP suckered them as chumps again. You’ve got to wonder how many times folks will fall for this. They’ve done it every election since I can remember.

  • fgbrunner3

    Weepy strikes out again.

  • Peter Connor

    They need to defund the Amnesty in January….no excuses

  • Evette Coutier

    It’s a sad but true situation. Let’s hope that the giant will awaken again.

  • SFLBIB

    “…Citizenship and Immigration Services, is financed entirely through fees collected from
    immigration applications and therefore cannot be defunded in the appropriations process.”

    This may be true, but there are other things that can be done. The government can institute a RIF [reduction in force]. IOW, lay off some employees. Since ICE has been told not to arrest and deport anyone, the agency doesn’t need as many employees. Lay off the excess. The Service can also be told to stop accepting applications and the fees. Lay off those who process them.

  • Sick of it

    One guy I’ve interacted with straight up acted scared to death at the thought of taking on the American government…with the help of MILLIONS of people! I did not know such cowardice even existed. Why are these gutless wonders able to attract women? Or perhaps that is the preferred type of the feminist.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    Despite all the rhetoric on myriad campaign trails, the GOP always wants to fight the NEXT battle, never the one in which they are currently engaged. THAT, is a recipe for SURRENDER!