UKIP Leader Nigel Farage Defends HIV Remarks

BBC, October 10, 2014

UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has defended comments suggesting immigrants who are HIV-positive should not be allowed to come to the UK.

In an interview in Newsweek Europe, Mr Farage said he wanted to “control the quantity and quality of people who come . . . people who do not have HIV”.

Mr Farage later told the BBC he would extend the ban to “people with tuberculosis too”.

Campaigners have condemned the UKIP leader’s comments.

The interview was published on the same day that UKIP won its first parliamentary seat in the Clacton by-election and came a close second in the Heywood and Middleton by-election.

Mr Farage told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme the UK’s public services could not cope with extra demand created by people with severe medical conditions coming to Britain.

“We want people to come who have got trades and skills, but we don’t want people who have got criminal records–and we can’t afford people with life-threatening diseases,” he said.

“I do not think people with life-threatening diseases should be treated by our National Health Service and that is an absolute essential condition for working out a proper immigration policy.

“We have leading cancer experts in Britain saying the burden now of treating overseas people is leading to huge shortages in the system.”

He added the UK should follow similar bans he said were in place in the United States and Australia.

Mr Carswell’s father is an eminent physician who is regarded as having been one of the first medical researchers to identify HIV while working in Uganda.

During a walkabout in Clacton, Mr Carswell declined to comment on Mr Farage’s remarks but called for “an Australian-type immigration system, with control over our borders”.

About 40% of new HIV diagnoses in 2013 were of people born outside the UK, according to Public Health England.

Tory defector and UKIP candidate for the parliamentary seat of Rochester and Strood, Mark Reckless, said he did not believe there should be a blanket ban on people with HIV entering the country.

Open door

He added he believed the Mr Farage’s comments, as reported by Newsweek Europe, were misleading.

In his interview with Newsweek Europe Mr Farage is quoted as saying immigrants from outside Europe are “discriminated against because we have an open door into Europe today”.

Mr Farage added: “If you’re an Indian engineer, say, your chances of admission are limited. UKIP want to control the quantity and quality of people who come.”

The UKIP leader then went on to define what he meant by “quality”.

“It’s simple. That Latvian convicted murderer shouldn’t have been allowed here. Yes and people who do not have HIV, to be frank. That’s a good start. And people with a skill.”

“What are those words inscribed under the Statue of Liberty? ‘Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses . . . ‘ What you’re saying is: ‘Bring me your electricians, your merchant bankers and your guys without HIV’.”

“There are 190 countries in the world,” Mr Farage added, “that operate like that”.

‘Ignorant’

In Australia, migrants are required to answer a series of questions about their skills and personal circumstances, for which they are awarded points.

Applicants need at least 65 points or their request for a visa will be rejected. However, there is no mention of personal health as one of the factors taken into account.

Those applying for permanent residency in the US or naturalisation need to undergo a medical screening for inadmissible health-related conditions.

The Terrence Higgins Trust said the UKIP leader’s remarks displayed a “new level of ignorance”.

“The idea that having HIV should be used as a black mark against someone’s name is ridiculous and shows an outrageous lack of understanding of the issue,” the charity’s chief executive Rosemary Gillespie said.

“In bracketing those living with the condition with murderers, and suggesting there is no place for them in his vision of Britain, Mr Farage has stooped to a new level of ignorance. He should be truly ashamed,” she added.

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  • Controversy is the new common sense.

    • MekongDelta69

      One minor correction if I may:

      Unless I misunderstood you, it should read, “Common sense is the new controversy.”

  • JackKrak

    The nerve….Next thing you now, he’ll be saying that illiterate Third World peasants with no identifiable skills shouldn’t be welcomed by the millions and given free homes and a steady income while they have twelve kids.

    • John Smith

      Farage will hopefully stick to his guns.

      I wish a few elites simply repeated OVER AND OVER AGAIN – People with deadly diseases should not be allowed entry to our country – period.

  • Pathfinder75 (formerly Shadow)

    “immigrants who are HIV-positive should not be allowed to come to the UK.”

    Immigrants who have HIV should not be allowed to come to the U.S.,either.

    • JP Rushton

      Thank Bush for that travesty.

      • George Costanza

        We did have a travel ban on anyone HIV positive, until Obama lifted the ban!!!

    • 1stworlder

      It runs ~$50,000 a year in aids meds per person. Drug reistant TB costs ~ $500k to treat over 18+ months.

  • AmericanCitizen

    I think Mr Farage understands reality, which is anathema to Liberals both here in America and apparently overseas too.

  • MekongDelta69

    I’ve mentioned this before on AmRen that I’m not ‘super-informed’ on UK politics, but I think I know enough to comment now and then.

    I know there’s the BNP, which I would assume most Amren readers from England like.

    But I saw Nigel Farage on Cavuto

    • JackKrak

      The BNP has imploded and somehow managed to lose any and all momentum they had just a couple of years ago. UKIP is where AR people go now. Not everything we would want, but the perfect is the enemy of the good….

      • 1stworlder

        The BNP was called racist for everything that got proved correct 10 years later.

    • First off, the BNP is pretty much dead for all intents and purposes.

      Second, I think, and more and more of our kind of people are realizing every day, that the survival of white civilizations and peoples will necessitate the democratic republican form of government going by the wayside. Until they do, and until it does, we’re stuck with duhmocrazy and voting. Which means our strategy in voting should be to vote for the person, party or issue that is simultaneously closest to what we and and has a credible chance of winning or at least showing well.

      Which means in May of next year, in Britain, voting UKIP.

      Back in 2010, in Britain, it meant voting BNP, because then the BNP was more credible.

      • Singingbird1

        I agree with what you say.

    • B.A_2014

      He’s a man with a fully functioning brain so he’s better than 99% of the politicians in the UK.

  • Mary

    The nerve. People with deadly communicable diseases have rights, too! How dare they be discriminated against. Same with vicious criminals and likely permanent welfare cases.
    It’s cruel and racist to keep them out

  • Fed Up

    Great Scott! A glint of intelligence surfacing in England! What next?

  • Julius Caesar

    Three cheers for Farage! If I lived in England I would be voting for him.

  • LIBERTYSINCURSION

    We live in a time where everything is upside down, backwards and inside out. Whats good is bad, and whats bad is good. A time where proposing a policy to save the lives of British citizens from being exposed to a deadly contagious disease, is seen as bad. And insisting that the British public be subjected to the possibility of contracting the disease, and dying a miserable death because of it, is seen as good. Protecting your people from harm is bad, subjecting them to harm is good. In this, the age of the suicidal diversification of all White lands and only White lands, we are told that black is White and White is black! Indeed up is no longer up, and down, if we continue on blindly, is the logical destination for our once Great Peoples to be found. <- See that, I got all poetic on you there huh? )

    Lets just hope that our people wake up and remove the politically correct blinders, of tolerating the intolerable, in the name of delusional egalitarianism.

    • DonReynolds

      I despise egalitarianism with a passion, it being based on the silly idea that everyone is somehow equal…….which no one actually believes, nor did they ever, nor were they ever……not in man’s world or in nature.
      No one is equal to everyone else, they are different from everyone else and it is those differences that make each of us unique and valuable.

  • kjh64

    “In bracketing those living with the condition with murderers, and suggesting there is no place for them in his vision of Britain, Mr Farage has stooped to a new level of ignorance. He should be truly ashamed,” she added.

    No, what is ignorant is allowing people with serious medical conditions into the country. Does this lady actually think that those with HIV are going to all keep their hands to themselves? No, some will spread it through sexual activity/drug use to the natives. Even if they didn’t, it costs a fortune to treat HIV over a lifetime. Stop this PC insanity, it’s killing us.

    • B.A_2014

      £20,000 a year I believe it costs to treat someone with HIV. But it’s fine. We’ll just borrow more money from the banks to pay for government expenditure.

      • 1stworlder

        It averages $50,000 a year in the US, more than the average taxpayer earns.

  • B.A_2014

    I saw this on our news a couple of days ago. Someone from one of the PC I’m such a victim it’s not even funny groups said the USA has rescinded its ban in 2010 and there was only a small rise in HIV. As if any rise at all is acceptable when the government could have prevented that small rise. How many people have to die just so the US and UK governments can say they aren’t discriminating.

  • B.A_2014

    I would consider joining Mr. Westons outfit but they are based here unfortunately.

  • DonReynolds

    I see nothing shocking or controversial about his comments. They are EXACTLY what were the policies of the USA in the past and remain very firmly the policies of nearly the entire world.

    There is no rational reason to admit any foreign citizen to this country who is sick with an often-fatal or debilitating disease, particularly if that illness is communicable or inheritable.

    There is no rational reason for admitting any foreign citizen over the age of 40, since they are so close to retirement age, particularly if they do not speak English.

    There is no rational reason to admit any foreign citizen to this country who does not already have the educational achievement or work skills that are not otherwise available from our own citizens. Otherwise, they are nothing more than breeding stock in need of public assistance.

    There is no rational reason for allowing foreign citizens who are insane and criminal to enter this country, most especially those guilty of violent crime and sex offenses, warring against the USA or its Allies, and those guilty of crimes against humanity in their own country. Potential terrorists should be refused entry, whether they are ISIS or IRA, communists, and those persons who have advocated violence against American citizens or property.

    There is no rational reason to all to admit any foreign citizen who cannot show proof of financial support and responsibility sufficient to support himself (and his family) until he can establish himself, it being sufficient proof for such person to have proof of employment before arriving in the USA or a specified sum of cash.

  • dd121

    Maybe we should keep people from Africa from coming into our country to prevent the spread of Ebola. Oh, never mind.

    • Ike Eichenberg

      Or just to prevent the spread of negroids.

      • Reverend Bacon

        That sounds like hemorrhoids, except a lot worse. And harder to get rid of.

      • dd121

        That would be part of my agenda.

  • Reverend Bacon

    It’s funny, but when the Ebola epidemic hit, I had high hopes that (a) it would be obvious that we should refuse to let in people from the site of the epidemic; and (b) we could use that slippery slope to justify keeping out people with AIDS, HIV, polio, TB, and a whole host of other diseases with which we are being bombarded in the name of diversity and Social Progress.

    Silly me. Instead, we’re doubling down on the nonsense, and welcoming the Ebola carriers.

  • IstvanIN

    1) The UK needs NO new immigrants and needs to start removal proceedings for the non-British already there. How about a future for English youth?
    2) Chronic diseases like HIV are expensive. You have an obligation to your own people, both the sick and the TAXPAYERS who foot the bill, but not to everyone on the planet.
    3) How about protecting your own people from catching diseases!

  • George Costanza

    We did have a travel ban on anyone HIV positive, until Obama lifted the ban!!!

  • Chris Granzow XI

    The more other parties act as if what he’s saying is controversial, the more people realize how incompetent those parties truly are.

  • TonyWestfield

    Brilliant. Clear. Bracing.
    Like breathing pure oxygen.

  • KenelmDigby

    It’s strange that what in a previous age, and by this I mean only 20 to 30 yeas ago would have been regarded as plain common sense is now regarded as ‘bigotry’.
    Well, I suppose some people think that medical expenses of £20 000 per annum, paid by the taxpayer, and the spread of a dread disease amongst the general population, is somehow an ‘enlightened,’ policy.

  • Lagerstrom

    Mr Farage’s ‘controversial’ comments are about as controversial as stating that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. Then some charity’s CEO accuses him of ignorance. Amazing.

  • Robbie Cheney

    I thought one could be arrested in the United Kingdom for uttering such a statement. Hmmm…are the Rothschilds (Bauer) loosing control of occupied Britain? Will Germany even take them back?

  • Cid Campeador

    I think Mr. Farage is lacking in facts re. the US and Australia. We’re letting in every Third Worlder who crimes here, now even those with Ebola. The Australians are methodically committing ethnic suicide by admitting Muslims and Africans who engage in murder and rape; the rapes being perpetrated against young White Australians. Same thing here with our Mexican and Central Americans along with our home grown Africans who delight in assaulting White people for sport.

  • More 3rd world immigration = more taxes for white people.

    HIV, Ebola, TB, ban them all, its called public safety.