Glaring Limits of the Civil Rights Act: We Need to Redistribute Wealth

Matt Bruenig, Salon, April 14, 2014

Although the Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which just reached its 50th anniversary, made great strides in desegregating the economy, economic discrimination is still widespread, and anti-discrimination legislation alone can never rectify the economic damage inflicted upon blacks by slavery and our Jim Crow apartheid regime. The Civil Rights Act was a mild reform, all things considered, but one conservatives fought with vigor and one many conservatives are still bitter about to this day.

When the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964, the primary purpose was to root out discrimination in public accommodations (like hotels and movie theaters) and in employment. {snip}

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Despite the fevered conservative protests over the extensive reach of the the Civil Rights Act, it has not totally succeeded in its aims. Lunch counters and hotels no longer outright ban blacks from service, a relatively easy thing to root out. But academic studies show that employment decisions continue to be made upon race-based lines.

For instance, in one 2003 study, a team of researchers sent nearly 5000 resumes to over 1,300 employment ads posted in newspapers in Chicago and Boston. The resumes were totally fake and otherwise identical except that some had black-sounding names on them while others had white-sounding names on them. The researchers found that the applications with white-sounding names on them received call backs 50 percent more often than the applications with black-sounding names on them. As things usually go with racist discrimination, it can be hard to pin down a particular given instance as motivated by racism, but the aggregate numbers do not lie.

Clearly, more progress needs to be made on the anti-discrimination front, but anti-discrimination, even if it were entirely successful, would still never be enough to rectify the economic harms inflicted by centuries of slavery and racial apartheid.

One of the consequences of the racial caste system that characterized American society prior to 1960 is that black families were prevented from accumulating economic wealth. Because wealth is the kind of thing that is passed down generations and the kind of thing that grows and grows, this initial racist starting point has opened up a yawning racial wealth gap that simply cannot be closed without intentional policy aimed at doing so.

In 2010, the median black family held around $16,000 in wealth, while the median white family held around $130,000. And this is not just a function of the fact that whites have higher incomes than blacks. Even when you control for income–comparing white and black families in the same income range–white families are three times wealthier than black families. The racial wealth disparities hold up and down the income ladder.

{snip} Even if racism were wiped out tomorrow and equal treatment became the norm, it would never cease being the case that the average white person has more wealth than the average black person. We could equalize everything else in society, and racial wealth inequality–plus all of the political power disparities that accompany such a thing–would continue into perpetuity.

Thus, those actually serious about righting the wrongs of enslavement and Jim Crow apartheid must support more drastic leveling efforts. Beefed up anti-discrimination, which is both necessary and good, will not be enough. Ideally, we could work towards reparations in the form of redistributing wealth along racial lines. With that an unlikely possibility though, we can at least think about ways to redistribute wealth more generally from those with wealth to those without it, something that would have a similar, albeit more attenuated, effect as reparations given who the wealthy and non-wealthy happen to be.

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  • Dale McNamee

    Matt Bruenig of Salon wrote: ” Ideally, we could work towards reparations in the form of redistributing wealth along racial lines. ” This typical Salon moronic hack never researched the trillions of dollars spent by LBJ and the Democraps since 1964 on these “victims of racism”… They already received reparations which were extorted from hard working taxpayers like me…

    As for “distributing wealth “… Maybe Matt Bruenig and the rest of the morons at Salon can give more… Also, the “hip-hop” & Hollywood elite can give back money to these “victims” who make them rich… The same goes for Pro-Sports (NFL,NBA,MLB,etc.)… And wealthy Liberals/Progressives too…

    • APaige

      Why do liberals always call for ‘redistribution’ of wealth, when it was never distributed to begin with? I am White and must have missed the wealth distribution day at the annual Whites Secret Summit.

      • SFLBIB

        Reminds me of the rhetorical question, “Is wealth distributed or created?”

    • Anna Tree

      I think Salon doesn’t have enough black journalists, it seems only 5 for 13 white journalists.. I think they should hire only black journalists and if not fire the existing white journalists, at least give better salary to the black journalists.

    • David Ashton

      Your kind comment about my “university” joke on another thread has been deleted unaccountably, but thank you.

      • Dale McNamee

        You’re Welcome !

  • MooTieFighter

    At least this article gets down to honest desires. White people, we want your money, and we don’t want to work as hard as you did to get it.

    • APaige

      We need liberals to openly advocate their positions and desires. Reading the comment section at Salon indicates that more Whites are paying attentions.

    • sbuffalonative

      Redistribution of (racial) wealth.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Diversity: Taking what white people earned.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      At least this article gets down to honest desires. White people, we want your money, but we don’t want you.

      • They don’t understand where money comes from. In my days as a chemical engineer, I got 79 US and foreign patents awarded in six years, and I loved my Scottish boss as the father I never had.

        I loved my old job. Larry and I used to go out into the parking lot. He’d smoke a cigarette and I’d drink a cup of coffee and we’d talk about projects. I miss those days.

  • Wealth redistribution?

    Because that hasn’t been tried before.

    Unless it has every day since about 1935.

    • Conrad

      It has been done, in S. Africa. It hasn’t solved the problems there.

      • Oil Can Harry

        Racial redistrubition of wealth has also already been done in Zimbabwe.
        With predictably calamitous results.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          Globalization is just another name for the wealth redistribution taking place on a worldwide scale. The end result will be the transformation of every western nation-state into developing 3rd world countries no different from those in Africa.

  • Ed

    The author should voluntarily hand his money to some underprivileged Black person. Change often starts at the micro level.

  • Luca

    My grandfather emigrated here 100 years ago with $32 in his pocket, he brought no wealth with him and did not speak the language, he had to work 60 hours a week at menial labor. Woe is me, poor me, I need someone else’s wealth to make me feel good about myself.

    When my father died after a long illness, he died virtually penniless and in debt. Now that’s not fair because I didn’t inherit any wealth. Boohoo and woe is me again. Can some of you millionaires out there please send me some of your wealth?

    This is America, where you can work hard, go to school, improve your lot in life OR hide behind your race and ancient history, then become a pathetic failure and expect others to bail you out and make excuses for you for political reasons.

  • Tarczan

    “Even when you control for income–comparing white and black families in the same income range–white families are three times wealthier than black families. The racial wealth disparities hold up and down the income ladder.”

    The only conclusion I can draw from this is that white people save more, but he wants it anyway. It defies logic.

    • Daniel Schmuhl

      Black people blow their money on status goods, such as Jordan sneakers and Chrysler 300’s.

      • Conrad

        And $8,000 for wheels.

      • Geo1metric

        Gee, even their “status goods” expose their stupidity!

      • kikz2

        around here their apparent incomes? allow for mercedes…..

      • John R

        Yeah, I know. But apparently, even the bad decisions of blacks are White peoples’ fault.

    • 1stworlder

      I worked with a black that couldn’t understand why a payday loan at over 500% APR interest cost him so much. Of course he also had a late & bounced check fee as he took the loan for slightly more than his next paycheck. D D D if I take vacation time will there still be the same amount of overtime on my next check?

    • Pro_Whitey

      There could be a few others, like white people don’t destroy what they own, they don’t act as dysfunctionally and spend their money on high-priced clothes and sneakers.
      My take is, do I get to keep some for the years I spent going to school, studying, doing without in order to pay for school, and then working long hours for years to establish myself in a career? As it is, my current retirement plan is not to retire. And yet these dysfunctional scum think they can just lay claim to it.

    • Brian

      Those videos of black yoofs storming the shoe store when the latest bakkaball sneaks are on sale comes to mind. I don’t suppose whites trickling money into IRAs makes for good footage.

      • Hallie Eva

        Exactly, Brian. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
        How much are those shoes? Over a hundred dollars, I will wager. If one is rat poor, that qualifies as a robust deposit to a savings account.
        One of their own, some time back, scolded his fellow blacks for their injudicious ways with money.
        He said even if we happen to generate money in our neighborhoods, your spending habits cycle it out within a week.

  • Viv J

    More freebies for blacks? Why, so they can grow even more resentful and entitled? Not interested.

  • ncpride

    The researchers found that the applications with white-sounding names on them received call backs 50 percent more often than the applications with black-sounding names on them.

    Probably because hiring managers can’t begin to even PRONOUNCE the stupid, ridiculous, absurd names blacks come up with. Angry as the blatant anti-White articles on todays news makes me, I’m glad they are getting bolder by the day. This in your face ‘hate whitey’ rhetoric is hard to ignore to the sleeping White, guilt ridden masses.

    • Gpod point. Those stupid names are indicative of low IQ parents. It’s not race that the employers are responding to, but lack of intelligence, which is mostly genetic..

      • dmxinc

        How could you not want to hire a “L’Genius”?

    • They want to hire black people but not black people with names like Shitavious or K’shalonda. They’re right, those get thrown into File 13. It’s black people with white names that HR loves.

      • IstvanIN

        You wouldn’t hire a Chlamydia McDonald?

        • SFLBIB

          How about Orangejello and Lemonjello?

          amren . com/ar/pdfs/2003/200309ar . pdf

          [Gray sidebar on page 3.]

    • Hal K

      They couldn’t make the name sound black without making it sound ridiculous.

    • Pro_Whitey

      Another reason is that due to anti-discrimination laws blacks are radioactive to HR people. They want to find any reason they can not to hire them, because if they don’t work out, they can’t let them go without risking a lawsuit. Or, as some call it, AARP, African-American Retirement Planning.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Welcome back, NCpride. Glad to see you pulled through.

      • ncpride

        Thank you, my friend. It’s been a painful recovery, but well worth it considering how successful the surgery was. Thanks to a very supportive family and an excellent medical team who have all taken such great care of me, I’ll be 100% in no time.

        • Tarczan

          Think how much smoother things will go once Obama care fully kicks in!

          • ncpride

            Funny you should say that, because I was thinking the exact same thing. I wanted the surgery done ASAP as soon as I knew it was unavoidable. They actually did (extra) exploratory surgery to look at my pancreas, which probably won’t even be allowed under Obama care. I’m just happy it’s all over and done, and my hospital stay and care still seemingly unaffected by it all. I’ve no doubt it will all go down hill in a matter of months.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, I heard many Docs are being forced out of their specialties and required to adapt to their secondary options.

    • Hallie Eva

      Welcome home, ncpride. I have missed you.
      Hope it all went well. Hallie E.

      • ncpride

        Thank you very much. The surgery did indeed go well, and I’m on the mend looking forward to a full recovery in a few more weeks.

        • Who Me?

          Glad you’re back and all went well. Sending you wishes for a speedy full recovery.

          • ncpride

            Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!

    • kikz2

      ebonic names = ebonic speakers and writers unless they are clearly African…… wtf wants ebonics for their business unless it appears in the ads of Ebony or some such?

  • No need to worry. With Obammunist and the DemoRats in control, the economy will sink to African level status anyway, much like South Africa. Plus, the blacks will become more open about their hatred and begin to commit open mass genocide on whites, just like in South Africa. Wealth? There will be no wealth to redistribute. Closer to home, where’s the wealth in Detroit to redistribute. Whites create, blacks mutilate and desecrate.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      I doubt it. The browns will try to kill off the blacks first, especially since they have a numerical advantage. While they’re busy killing each other off, whitey will hopefully step in and repatriate all the browns and blacks. Better to play them off against each other and then pounce when the non-whites least suspect it.

    • RisingReich

      Musilims detonate…lol

  • John Ambrose

    I don’t think it would be an overreach to say that most the writers at Salon belong in a mental institution. If God himself were to come down to earth (assuming he exists) and tell these people that their cherished liberal dogmas were all wrong and that the evil “ignorant” bigots on sites like this one were in fact right, they still wouldn’t be convinced.

    • IstvanIN

      There failures have nothing to do with behavior like this, does it:

      • Could have been Trayvon’s car, if he didn’t have a penchant for whacking the skulls of neighborhood watch volunteers into concrete:

        • Whitetrashgang

          If Trayvon had that car he would have run over George.

      • Alexandra1973

        I actually know of a pink Pepto-Bismol car in Massillon, Ohio. In yellow letters across the back window it reads “Cause all da haters sick.”

        One of these days I’m going to have to go take a picture.

      • kikz2

        swearta…….saw similar the other day sans ads.. laughing, told my daughter i knew what color/race the driver w/out ever seeing him.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    For instance, in one 2003 study, a team of researchers sent nearly 5000 resumes to over 1,300 employment ads posted in newspapers in Chicago and Boston. The resumes were totally fake and otherwise identical except that some had black-sounding names on them while others had white-sounding names on them. The researchers found that the applications with white-sounding names on them received call backs 50 percent more often than the applications with black-sounding names on them. As things usually go with racist discrimination, it can be hard to pin down a particular given instance as motivated by racism, but the aggregate numbers do not lie.

    ____________________________________________________

    This has nothing to do with “racist” discrimination. A more plausible explanation is that employers have years of experience with blacks and are less likely to hire them because of the high statistical likelihood of black incompetence. Black-sounding names are just a red flag.

    • Nathanwartooth

      They probably made them sound ridiculously black as well, just to try to get people to not respond to them.

  • Tom Mixx

    our Jim Crow apartheid regime.
    _______________________
    Interesting, I’m old enough to have seen the Jim Crow South and I can assure everyone, blacks did much better in the South during that period than they are doing now. for obvious reasons, any such discussion will never be allowed in this country.

    • IstvanIN

      The majority did better in white-managed Rhodesia and South Africa than they do now. Even Jamaicans, when the question of the monarchy comes up, a fair percentage not only do not want to overthrow the Queen but actually believe they were better off as a colony rather than independent realm.

  • Geo1metric

    The author of this article must be engaged in satire; no one who is smart enough to learn English and to write cannot be as stupid as this article implies.

  • shawnmer

    Well, give ’em credit for being candid. We always asked how long before anti-white discrimination could stop. And there you have it.

    “Never.” NEVER.

  • Alexandra1973

    I’d think about it–AFTER they pay for the damage they’ve done to our cities and the lives they’ve destroyed.

    We’d likely break even. 🙂

    • Geo1metric

      I think we’d end with a massive profit!

  • So education is not the issue, B.S
    ive worked my ass off went to school and still work my ass off, my hands show it.
    If that is white privlage you idea o privlage is not what i see it at.
    Stay in school go to higher learning (collage) that is not a white thing its a smart thing, my friends (dark skins) see this, why don’t more see this. Yes i called them dark skins, I was chatting over some bbq and a beer with one of them he said somthing that stuck with me, The media and government loves to class people. African American, Korean American, Latin American, why do they divide us like this are we not Americans as a whole. He is right. they do divide us. Could it be that this is done as a form to keep us at they vs. us. Why? Controle? Build fear and hate among ourselves till we cant tust each other, we need to be protected more police, more servalance, more Government? This is a question that i would like to hear the answer too. Why divide we the People. What would happen if we as a united people demanded the end of corruption in government, or the end of selling us out to the hiest bidder, or evern force a elected leader to resign that day.

  • JSS

    “we can at least think about ways to redistribute wealth more generally from those with wealth to those without it, something that would have a similar, albeit more attenuated, effect as reparations given who the wealthy and non-wealthy happen to be”.

    Sounds good, I want Oprah, Jamie Fox, Morgan Freeman, Jayz and Obama to send me checks right now. Oh thats not what you meant..

  • An example of wealth redistribution.

    Person A is the typical person who has $200,000 of liquid assets, anywhere in the country.

    Person B is the typical person who has no liquid assets, somewhere in Bell Curve City. And I’m making that stipulation with Person B, that he or she is black and ghetto, because that’s what this article is about, race-based wealth redistribution.

    The Feds take $100,000 away from Person A and gives it to Person B. When that happens, they will be equal in wealth terms, no wealth inequality. Utopia has arrived.

    Check back in exactly one year. Person B will have blown through his or her $100K on bling, junk, dope, hookers, shoe game, making it rain in strip joints, weave, hair hats, nail salons. Person A will have made the $100K the Feds took from him all back.

    It all goes back to what is now one of my many axioms, a phrase that was oft repeated to me when I was growing up but it took me a long time to figure out what it really means: Poor people have poor ways.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I honestly think Salon is competing with the Onion.

  • MekongDelta69

    I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with this 100% self-loathing, guilt-ridden, mentally retarded white leftist.

    Therefore, I nominate you – Mr. Matt Breunig of Pravda to immediately turn in your resignation, but ONLY if your replacement, is a half-black, half-brown, illegal alien, gay, feminazi, tranny, mooz-lim — with AIDS — on Welfare — with a rap sheet.

  • 1stworlder

    Their comments counter is at zero. I guess that’s all the leftist comments that would pass censorship.

  • GenX Antipodean

    Wouldn’t the 1%’ers but the ones to get the wealth from first?
    At it’s height, only 1.6% of the US population owned slaves, and that was before numerous waves of immigration that have hit the country since.

    And where do they get off suggesting that all current wealth comes from Bantu contributions in agricultural labor back when, wasn’t the capital generated off set by the financial and blood cost of the civil war?(Not to mention the ongoing obligatory costs).

    We Whites were also at varying levels in the class hierarchy, we didn’t all rule, try telling a Irish Catholic 100 years ago that they were on the top of the heap.

    Asking for wealth redistribution is an admission of inferiority and inherent inequality, and it reeks of the cargo cult mentality that wealth is just created like Zambian’s printing endless money, (although in their defense, the author does say ‘redistribution’).

    Not all blacks would qualify for reparations, think Obama whose family owned slaves or African immigrants from the last century. And likewise not all Whites should be accountable to pay, some of us have always been working to middle class.

    No this is just another way of diverting attention away from the root of differing financial outcomes, in the same way differences in scholastic outcomes is blamed on the teachers or schools.

    Surely doubling Bantu-American lifespans and subsidized breding programs must count for something.
    Weren’t the ex slaves also given Liberia..?

    • dmxinc

      Don’t try to apply real logic. Their goal is money, control and power. Nothing more.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Redistribution is THEFT. It. Is. THEFT.

  • So CAL Snowman

    How would reparations for bi-racial people work? Would they only get half as much as the full blooded africans?

    • Pro_Whitey

      They would have to pay themselves.

      • Kenner

        LOL!! Brilliant, thank you!!

      • Travis Lee

        But the government bureaucrats would have to keep 75% of the payments.
        Handling fees, you know?

  • Martel

    I like watching the system implode.

  • Who Me?

    NOW, I’m angry, and this is going to be a somewhat disjointed rant:

    The average black family had about $16K in “wealth” and the average White family had about $130K, That’s a difference of $114K. If we handed every black “family” (provided we could figure out who was a family and who wasn’t) a check for the full $114K, could we then call it a day with the reparations thing, and never hear of it again? I’m betting not. The article clearly stated that, “anti-discrimination, even if it were entirely successful, would still never be enough to rectify the economic harms inflicted by centuries of slavery and racial apartheid.” So you see they are planning to hang this mess around our necks for ever and ever without end.

    I’d also like to ask how they figure our we got our $130K wealth if “wealth is the kind of thing that is passed down generations and the kind of thing that grows and grows,.” Considering neither my husband or I inherited so much as a single dime from either set of parents. Indeed we had to pay for their funerals and burials. We both put ourselves through college without help from parents or grandparents or anyone else, and paid off our own student loans… We raised a family and put our kids through college, and by golly, anything we have in the way of “wealth” we worked hard for, and I’ll be dammed if I want it redistributed to some lazy, fat-rumped welfare queen who has pumped out 12 kids on my dime and never worked a day in her life.

    Finally they end with this cheerful admonition: (We must)”think about ways to redistribute wealth more generally from those with wealth to those without it”. Yeah? WHY? And NO, THANK YOU!

  • IstvanIN

    Redistribution didn’t work in the USSR, China, Cuba or any place it was tried. These nit-wits can not only not face the truth they can not even come up with new ideas.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      If the intention was genocide, redistribution worked as intended and then some.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Oh, I get it now: This idiot wants to give what I have rightfully earned to those who don’t work, aren’t educated and prefer to make their living off of taxpayer largesse.

    Look, I’ve already paid my “fair share” of redistribution for the fiscal year. The feds will redistribute my share for the fraud and scam known as Earned Income Tax Credits; the state share will go to fire up EBT cards for illegal aliens and move new Section 8 housing for urban blacks into my neighborhood.

    The Internal Revenue Service paid out more than $110 billion in tax credits over the past decade to people who didn’t qualify for them, according to a Treasury report released Tuesday.IRS inspector general J. Russell George said more than one-fifth of all credits paid under the program went to people who didn’t qualify. by far the highest fraud rate in any government entitlement program.

    A mandated portion of my cell phone bill is redistributed so unemployable welfare layabouts can get obamaphones to conduct drug deals and arrange “beat Whitey” flash mobs.

    Anyone who advocates redistribution of others’ hard-earned income or savings should be forced to liquidate their IRAs, 401Ks, stock portfolios,, property and savings immediately for redistribution to others more worthy.

    I’d like to tell the author of this article that he can go stuff his Marxist/communist schemes.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Ideally, we could work towards reparations in the form of redistributing wealth along racial lines.

      Frankly, I’ve had enough of my money redistributed to help blacks — those who assault, rape and rob my race with near-impunity.

      From 1965 to 2008, nearly $16 trillion of taxpayer money (in constant 2008 dollars) was spent on means-tested welfare programs for the poor.

      “No people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.”

      –Pat Buchanan

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Awww let me toss in some favorites.

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        Notice that the $16 trillion total is just about equal to the national debt.

  • Lewis33

    This writer reminds me of somebody…if only life were a game of Monopoly.

  • Joe blow

    As far as I know, there are no Jewish players in the NBA. Yet, TWENTY THREE of the thirty NBA teams are owned by Jews. Want to kick that one around in Salon?

  • TheCogitator

    This is foolishness, but even if they did divide all the wealth equally, the people who have it would get it back. In a short while blacks would lag whites, and poor whites would back there too. People who have money usually have it because they are smarter and work harder. There certain kinds of people who are financially more successful than others. There are more of those kind of people among whites than among blacks.

  • 2eRep

    How much of his income has this homosexual given to further the cause?

  • Conrad

    Even if a policy of this kind were carried out, whites would return to their wealthier position in a generation or two. The only thing that could be done to remedy the problem then would be to machine-gun whites into pits. Which is just what they want anyway.

  • MATT BRUENIG: Glaring limits of the Civil Rights Act: We need to redistribute wealth

    Of course the same ‘logic’ would justify the outright removal of Whites from schools, jobs and homes, and ending their lives–because isn’t that just cutting to the chase?

  • willbest

    ” the median black family held around $16,000 in wealth, while the median
    white family held around $130,000. And this is not just a function of
    the fact that whites have higher incomes than blacks”

    What is the median black savings rate vs. the median white savings rate?

  • WR_the_realist

    Much of the economic inequality in this country is due to illegal immigration and mass immigration. So thank lefties like the ones who write for Slate for the rise of economic inequality in this country.

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    Go check in with God or mother nature about a redistribution of genes/intelligence for Black people.

  • Neuday

    Maybe we should redistribute only the money of a certain tribe of people, a tribe known for financial acumen. Waddaya think, Salon?

    • RisingReich

      A tribe known for financial manipulation and theft. Fixed it.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        That very same Tribe is also responsible for mass murder to the tune of tens of millions in Eastern Europe alone.

    • Alexandra1973

      One time this priest suggested that the Vatican sell some of its treasures and feed the poor.

      That suggestion was NOT well-received.

  • Brian

    The researchers found that the applications with white-sounding names on
    them received call backs 50 percent more often than the applications
    with black-sounding names on them. As things usually go with racist
    discrimination, it can be hard to pin down a particular given instance
    as motivated by racism, but the aggregate numbers do not lie.
    ===
    What a load. They never bothered to investigate the obvious CLASS distinction, based on lower class people of any ethnicity tending to have more ethnically distinctive names.

    They compare ‘Shirley’ to ‘Quanisha’ and assume that the HR drone will assume Shirley is white and Quanisha black. _What if you told the HR screener that Shirley is also black?_ Race and gender, as well as resume content, are then equal, and I guarantee you there would still be a preference, among blacks, whites, or any other group, for Shirley.

  • ViktorNN

    You first Matt Bruenig – you go first.

    Give up your cushy job as a writer to a black person and sign over the deed of that house you inherited from your parents.

    No?

    That’s what I thought.

  • SaggyGenes

    Here’s Matt Bruenig. This maggot majored in philosophy and black studies. I’m sure the bantus who sat next to him in class were as fond of him as I am.

    • Alexandra1973

      He looks like a friend of Beavis.

      • He looks like a propaganda poster from the 1940s.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        He looks like Beavis, ugh!

  • Garrett Brown

    Article from Salon? Did not read.

  • RyanP

    I propose an experiment. Take groups of whites and blacks with identical incomes and wealth. Hand them a large lump some of cash with no strings attached. Follow them and their descendants for a few generations. Measure the wealth of each group. Investigate how that windfall of cash was utilized by each group. I think we all know what the results would be.

  • RyanP

    I just read the word reparations and I had this thought. Is there a lump some of money we could hand over that would absolve us once and for all? A compensation package that would allow whites to move on debt free from past wrongs. I have to wonder if we had made this deal in the civil rights era would it have saved us money over the long run. Assuming they honoured the agreement and did not come knocking at the door with new excuses once the money was gone.

    • Alexandra1973

      It would have to be on the condition that they utilize the free tickets home first. Forty acres (in Africa) and a mule (or hooptie).

    • Ringo Lennon

      We’ve been paying blacks reparations for too long. Welfare, food stamps, housing, etc, cradle to the grave stuff.. We’ve more than paid for past indiscretions. It’s time for the negro to pick himself up. What? They think we’re cash cows?

  • John

    America’s 17 trillion debt is wealth distribution.The money gets spent roughly on everybody but you do know who’s going to pay it back.

  • Geo1metric

    They must because it is their destiny in life to try to ruin everything you like.

  • Hammerstrike

    “One of the consequences of the racial caste system that characterized American society prior to 1960 is that black families were prevented from accumulating economic wealth.”

    There aren´t that many black families anymore…

    • Alexandra1973

      How’s it whitey’s fault they spend money on useless stuff?

      • Hammerstrike

        Much of that money they spend is money they didn´t earn themselves, they didn´t build and work for taht, Whitney did that for them.

  • Tarczan

    Leonor- Thank you for your posting. PLEASE continue to post comments from S.A. as we get little coverage of it here in the US, save for what a saint Nelson Mandela was.

  • Alexandra1973

    And summer break, and fall break, and winter break!

  • scutum

    Redistribution of the nations wealth to a group of people whose highest aspirations are ” to have enough money to buy a Cadillac and stay high” will do nothing to elevate their economic status. However, it will temporarily satisfy the black need for revenge against the evil white man. At least until the money and the dope run out and the Cadillac breaks down because they for got to put oil in the crankcase.

  • NorthernWind

    Wait! We need to do redistribution? What is it that we’ve been doing all of this time? What is EBT if not wealth transfer? What is section 8 housing if not wealth transfer? What is giving to Blacks all sorts of civil service jobs which are mostly funded by White tax payers?

    The fact is that we already have wealth redistribution and it’s isn’t helping Blacks at all. It is hurting Whites though.

    • Who Me?

      Redistribution? Why do White people pay roughly one-third of their earned income to the government every April 15th, if not in a massive redistribution plan. And that’s JUST the Federal Income Tax. That doesn’t count all the other taxes and fees we pay every day for stuff like roads and schools and so on, that everybody uses, blacks AND Whites.
      Blacks seem to think that the government just has this money in some sort of stash and hands it out. They don’t realize the government produces nothing, grows nothing, manufactures nothing, sells nothing to produce this money it gives to them. It confiscates it from working people to redistribute to them.
      They also seem to think that our Income Tax Return is like the money they get from the government. They don’t realize that it is just what little bit of our own money the government decides to let us have back (if any) at the end of the year, if we can prove that we overpaid them.

      • Well, if the bell curvers in question are using the EITC, and are getting a refund greater than the amount of FIT that was withheld from them during the year, then they are getting money from the government.

        As for everyone else, you’re right on. We’re just giving the Federal government an interest free loan. Anyone in that “everyone else” subset that brags about their big return might as well get on top of a building and scream into a megaphone, “Hey world, I’m economically illiterate!”

        To make matters more complicated, you might have seen in the news that the Feds are putting rocks on refund checks because the recipient had a great great great grandaunt or something like that who was overpaid in their SS checks. I’ve been predicting all along that the Feds and states with income taxes are going to get so hard up for money that they’ll just flat refuse to mail refund checks. Turns out I was slightly wrong: They’re not per se refusing, they’re just concocting flimsy legal excuses to garnish all or part of them.

        Which is why I say: If you can, engineer your withholding so that you’ll slightly owe when you do your returns.

        • Who Me?

          We already do the past 4 or 5 years now. Didn’t do it that way on purpose, just don’t have much to claim in the way of deductions anymore… I didn’t know about the overpaid SS locks, tho. They will never run out of scams to get every screaming nickel they can out of us.

  • I really like to hear news from South Africa and believe that they are our kindred spirits in the darkness that is befalling humanity. I live near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, (USA) and some Afrikkaners emigrated to there after 1989.

    All we read about is how wonderful things are there and how magazines write about Africa being the “new place to invest” as blacks have done such wonders with the economies there. However there are also illicit other sources of information which talk about productive farm seizures and the killing of whites — who are not allowed to defend themselves.

    I think it’s a matter of time before such things happen all over the USA also.

  • I wouldn’t describe today’s Russia as communist at all, not in the classical Marxist sense. After all, he sent those women from that awful band whose name we probably can’t mention here to Siberia for having made fools of themselves inside a Christian church, the same church in Moscow that the actual Communists imploded and was rebuilt almost exactly as it was in the 1990s after the fall of communism. Nor do I think communism of that sort is in Russia’s near or far future.

    I would describe Russia’s/Putin’s current paradigm as a practicalist-realist form of nationalism, in that while Russian ethnonationalism is desired, a lot of circumstances make Russia being a Russian ethnostate make that impossible, so Putin nuances his less than ideal situation to make life as well and problem free as possible for Russians. Its economic system, I would describe as mixed socio-capitalist.

  • I woke up this morning and saw myself in the mirror. I must have missed the “DUMB” tattooed on my forehead.

    If you want to say that the kind of redistribution we have tried starting and and since FDR has been the wrong kind or not effective, then I can listen to that argument. But it’s undeniable that redistribution has and continues to be attempted.

    As for your last point, I want to bring that up in another one of my responses to another one of your comments.

  • I think the time frame of technology making masses of humanity redundant will happen sooner than that. And far from it having to cause “liberal, conservative and even Libertarian thinkers” to reevaluate their ideas, I think the effects will be even more profound: Those ideologies will become totally obsolete, the books written by their scriveners and ideologues will be collecting dust, their worldviews will be far more discussed in history courses than political science courses. As it is, right at this movement, the mainstreams of liberalism, conservatism and Libertarianism are already becoming more and more irrelevant by the year.

    IOW, the coming of the singularity, for the lack of a better term, will require us to come up with brand new ideas and ideologies, some of which may be unrecognizable to us right now.

    Aside from the singularity meaning that universal ubiquitous guaranteed minimum income and other kinds of social welfare benefits will have to be come a de jure if not a de facto civil right, something which all serious people of all serious ideologies in the post-singularity future will accept and therefore its reality will be settled politics, something that will also have to happen is serious population control by means of eugenics and forced sterilization. IOW, the “right” to procreate will no longer be or be seen as a “right,” rather a privilege.

    And, like you, I think it will be the impetus that drags us kicking and screaming out of racially egalitarian and universalist cults, both political and religious.

    I turned 37 a few weeks ago, and I just might live long enough to see all of this happen.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      You will indeed live to see the violent demise of the United States, it’s destruction is inevitable. What need not be inevitable is the annihilation of all white Americans. Learn to shoot, and learn some skills that would be helpful in the very dark times that are coming. As bad as things are going to get in our lifetimes, we can at least work for the day where a new dawn will greet our descendants. It’s always darkest before the dawn.

      • Why am I not surprised that I used the word “singularity” and you responded?

        Did you use to post here as Periapsis?

        And also, did you catch the lunar eclipse a few nights back? I was able to, the best lunar eclipse I’ve ever seen.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Actually the word singularity to me brings to mind black holes, or rather what is thought to lurk inside them. In this case though I would not use that word in the context you did. It does befit the welfare state that is killing us, literally in that no amount of money would ever be enough for THEM. I missed the eclipse, rained and thundered all night where I am only for the sun to come out later that morning. I’ll try for the next one. You did indeed get to see a good one though, the photos online were nice. I was using that “handle” before switching to this one. Your observations do you credit.

          • I had a “singularity” in my own life, and the term is useful. One never knows what one will get back out of one of those. Our universe is a black hole; the matter density shows this.

  • John R

    And what did the segregationists say? Equality of opportunity would never be enough! So true.

  • John R

    Yes, but what does that have to do with the topic at hand? And corporations are not “White” in the true sense of the word. Stop bringing up other topics. Please.

  • Here is an idea directly aimed at The Salon….

    Seeing as your magazine endlessly proves our position to be right – that multiracial societies do not work and are full of problems that need to be “overcome”, and given your (rightful) concept that “apartheid” is not a just solution…..maybe you should consider taking the next step and actually siding with nationalists!

    Give these people their own nation – and leave ours the hell alone – and hey presto! All of your concerns, issues, dramas, whining and moaning will cease over night. There will be peace, equal opportunities, no “discrimination” over somebody’s name, or any other of the bogeymen issues your magazine endlessly churns out in a typically anti-white fashion.

    Come on, stop your bitching and get with the programme of where the real “progress” lay. Confront your fears, dare to think “outside of the box” and hell, perhaps take a fresh look at your own dogmas and conformities for a change.

    Of course, there would then be no need for Salon, no meaning to your existence and no salaries for you to collect, but surely that would be a small price to pay to end this awful “white problem” that your magazine cannot restrain itself from banging on about.

  • PvtCharlieSlate

    Where do I go to sign up so I can help them identify with the average guy?
    I really won’t require that much: a six-figure amount will work nicely.

  • The indoctrination Kool-Aid might be strong, but I grew up in liberal Boulder, Colorado and did my undergrad work in ultra-liberal Santa Cruz, California. It seems to have produced the reverse of the intended effect. One of my old college acquaintances recognized me here a few weeks ago. “Carnivore?”

    Sometimes the left-wing garbage doesn’t take, and when it fails, it fails completely.