Dark Girls: Documentary About Dark-Skinned Women to Air on OWN Network

Michigan Chronicle, June 18, 2013

Oprah Winfrey’s OWN network is set to air a documentary exploring the discrimination confronting dark-skinned women worldwide.

“Dark Girls” features interviews with dark-skinned Black women in America, aiming to show “that the deep seated biases and hatreds of racism–within and outside of the Black American culture–remain bitterly entrenched,” according to a press release. The film originally premiered at the 2011 Toronto International Film Festival.

Watch a preview for “Dark Girls” here:

The film was directed by Urban Winter Entertainment head D. Channsin Berry and  Duke Media CEO Bill Duke.

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“Dark Girls” will examine the everyday lives of darker-skinned women, including their challenges in corporate America, interracial relationships and the “good hair” vs. “bad hair” debate. Berry believes the film is a must. “The skin issue is a discussion we all need to have once and for all…so we can eradicate it.”

You can catch “Dark Girls” on the OWN Network Sunday, June 23 at 10 p.m. Visit the official Dark Girls website here.

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  • pcmustgo

    Why aren’t you guys featuring the story on Paula Deen getting fired for using the N-word 30 years ago?

    OWN is getting more ghetto I think, less midwestern white women oriented.

    • The__Bobster

      What bothered me most about that story is how NBC invited her on The Today Show after she was already groveling.

      She was smart enough to skip out on the interview. Der Schnozzle just want to twist the knife.

    • Romulus

      Hello again! You are definitely on point with this one my friend. Oprahs treasure chest is enormous. We’ll over a billion! With wealth comes power and now you’ll see the other side of her personality. Black empowerment.

    • Sen. Bobby Byrd, former Klan leader.
      Pauls Deen used the n-word 30 years ago ……

      Never seen OWN. Would never support Opraphant.

    • Skip Wellington

      Paula Deen did use the N-word 30 years ago.

      However, as recent as 4 months ago, said spear-chucker and jungle bunny.

      • evilsandmich

        I can’t say as I really care, but better that she be pro-white rather than anti-black if she wants to be a public persona who vents.

      • OlderWoman

        I think they’re funny names.

    • ncpride

      If you read a few articles about the over-blown situation, most blame her solely for the obesity epidemic in this country for cooking and sharing ‘Southern’ food recipes. It never changes with mental libitards: It’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault, and personal accountability and moderation are words utterly void in their endless dictionary of blame.

    • prettyblackwoman

      The

  • Jefferson

    The most attractive so-called “Black” women, are the ones who have the most Caucasian blood in them. Like Suzanne Malveaux, Soledad O’Brien, Lolo Jones and Rashida Jones for example.

    • Bossman

      Rashida Jones looks white. I heard that her father Quincy is also part Native American. Soledad O’Brien is part Hispanic, so it seems that these women carry the bloodlines of many of the major ethnic groups of the USA.

    • CharlesFinley

      How about, “the least UNattractive so-called ‘black’ women…”?

  • BonusGift

    This seems to cut across all cultures and history. Through the sweep of human history within each race being lighter is seen as a positive. It may have something to do with the fact that, for example, within a race there is a positive correlation between IQ and being lightly colored (i.e., higher IQs and being light tend to go together).

  • WmarkW

    I’ve seen snippets of this before, and the one absolute piece of hogwash in it, is the assertion that “colorism” among blacks has its roots in slavery days. Fairer skinned women are considered more beautiful in essentially every society in which complexions vary widely — Middle East, India, Indonesia. Even among Caucasians, whose women often work at artificially darkening their skin, the nationality most often cited as the epitome of feminine beauty is Swedes.

    African Americans would rather blame whitey for their cultural deficits, than solve them.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    This is the kind of show one waits all year to miss.

    • WmarkW

      There’s zero probability I’m going to miss it.

      • You got that that backwards I think.

        “There is a 100% probability I AM going to miss it.”

  • Andy

    Last few sentences – great advice for whites!

  • BernieGoetzFan

    “Dark Girls” will examine the everyday lives of darker-skinned women, including their challenges in corporate America, interracial relationships and the “good hair” vs. “bad hair” debate. Berry believes the film is a must. “The skin issue is a discussion we all need to have once and for all…so we can eradicate it.”

    It will not be a “discussion.” It will say that white racism is responsible for black women being unable to find a man. The view that black women – especially dark skinned black women – are not as attractive as other women will not even be entertained.

    • The__Bobster

      Well, it couldn’t be the fact that they are obese and foul-mouthed, with bad attitudes.

      • Funruffian

        I’ve seen many attractive East Indian women and they are often just as dark as Negroes. And they are still far more attractive than Negroes on average. So this whole skin-color issue only touches upon maybe 5% of why Black females are the least desirable.

        • CharlesFinley

          Authentic groid females are repugnant.

      • prettyblackwoman

        I beg to differ…I am dark skinned. I am not obese, nor am I foul mouthed. There are many more like me. Please do not put us all in one big box.

    • TheAntidote

      Bingo. Once again they will say they want to play poker, then hold onto the entire deck including the joker.

    • Irishgirl

      “The skin issue is a discussion we all need to have once and for all…so we can eradicate it.”

      How many millions of times do we need to have this discussion “once and for all?”

      And no, we don’t “all” need to have it; I, for one, do not.
      Please, OWN, do not presume to speak for me.

  • The__Bobster

    If you were “blessed” with a Brillo pad on your head, it would be high on your list.

    • Romulus

      Lmao.

  • Erasmus

    “Dark Girls” will examine the everyday lives of darker-skinned women, including their challenges in corporate America, interracial relationships and the “good hair” vs. “bad hair” debate.”

    Can the world possibly get any weirder?

  • MekongDelta69

    These idiots never giving up on having “discussions we need to have about ‘bitterly entrenched’ subjects” so they can magically ‘eradicate them once and for all.’

    They’ve been babbling about the same thing for 50 years. Maybe, if they’d just shut their mouths for once, they might not tick off so many people.
    [But don’t hold your breath waiting. Most of them are genetically incapable of not grievance mongering.]

    • ALL of us will be staring hypnotically into the mirror, wondering if we have ‘good hair’ or ‘bad hair.’ C’mon people – these are the important problems which plague the world today.

      I have hated rainy days, at evening quitting time, shortly after normal timed pay days (15th & 30th) because it is impossible to get a taxi because the are all shuttling black women 3 blocks to a commuter train station because they can’t get their hair wet.

      Implied … they don’t wash their hair between visits to the “beauty parlor”. Next time you see one digging at her head with those “nails” you will cringe.

      • gemjunior

        Once a secretary did that digging at her head with the nails and she told me that she and black women in general only wash their hair around once a month. I am telling the truth. Also, you do not want to be in a car or closed space with a black woman with wet hair when it rains because it smells like a dog. I know that sounds mean but it’s true. I’ve been in that situation a good few times in my student days and the musty odor is unmistakeable.

        • Camielle Belle Poole

          She lied to you.

  • dave

    personally i like white women. they are far more diverse in their looks. different color and style hair. different color eyes. black women are one dimensional, only have black hair and brown eyes unless they straighten their hair to look white. who says white people are not diverse. its the blacks who lack diversity.

    • Funruffian

      It’s not the lack of physical variety that makes them less attractive. Body odor, high levels of testosterone, prognathism, fuzzy hair that cannot grow past the ears, separation of pigment on hands and feet, narrow hips, bulbous haunches, flat feet, jaundiced eyes, protruding mouths and circular torsos are the physical characteristics of the Black female which is very similar to their male brothahs.
      But even these so-called Black beauties aren’t a tenth as good looking as the average White model.

      • IstvanIN

        I was disgusted by your description but I quickly realized why: it is right on the mark.

      • dave

        you forgot the ape like nose and nostrols. huge fat dumpers. i was just talkng the basics.

        • Bossman

          Anthropologist have a lot to say about that if you dig deep enough. I would attempt to go into that but every time I try to say anything profound the moderator deletes my posts.

      • Camielle Belle Poole

        I’ve never met any of the black women you are talking about? Where are you FROM?

  • kjh64

    Yeah, it ridiculous that they blame “slave days” for this attitude. Blacks today were never slaves and never had even remotely any connection or knowledge of “slave days”. Their attitudes towards skin color come from within.

  • Dark girl okay, darkie very bad.

    • IanJMacDonald

      “Dark girls” is OK but “girls of darkness” would probably get you fired.

      • The only reason “Dark Girls” is allowed is because it is on the Oprah Winfrey Network. If it was any other network complaining would not stop until it was cancelled, regardless of how good of a show it was or how many of them watched it.

  • Of course they were. They weren’t going to go to Chicago City Hall/Cook County Hall (it is what it is depending on what side you enter) and pick some gubmint employees at random to be on the show.

    • evilsandmich

      I had a brief chuckle remembering a black woman that I worked with twenty years ago who was relating a tale about pregnant friend and she said that she would “join the army sos they could git rid of dat baby”. Surprisingly she wasn’t unattractive, but that logic: instead of say, taking a birth control pill, your backup plan is to join the military to get a free abortion?

  • bigone4u

    Your single counterexample does not impair BonusGift’s point, which relates to a “positive correlation” between lighter skin and higher IQ. I believe Steve Sailer and others have demonstrated that positive correlation.

  • bigone4u

    The narcissism of black women knows no bounds. This show plays to it. May the OWN network fail and it’s owner go bankrupt for putting on such trash.

    • Funruffian

      It’s more like a bloviated over-inflated sense of self-importance. Inferiority complex is synonymous with a Superiority complex.

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    With Blacks everything, everything is about race. But they aren’t racist; you are.

  • IstvanIN

    Women like that are always giving their husband’s lip.

  • Funruffian

    Heh? Did we watch the same video? Pretty? Articulate? You need a new pair of glasses. Those females were not attractive.

  • cancerous bananna

    Its the send mo’ cash-tray.

  • Triarius

    So the darker the worse, the “whiter” the hair the better…I’m starting to see a trend.

  • tech

    Blacks think they favor lighter features because of “white
    standards of beauty” that were forced on them. Even though, lighter features
    are favored universally. But, what is so
    interesting is women of all cultures seem to prefer men that are taller. Now is this natural or was this a secret
    conspiracy among tall men to force their standard onto them.

    • WR_the_realist

      As a short man I can assure you that women do, universally, prefer tall men. I don’t blame women for that. It’s wired into them. It would be like blaming a cat for catching mice. But men universally prefer lighter skinned women with young looking features. That is just as much wired into them, but for that they are viciously condemned, by the usual professional feminists and race hustlers.

  • tech

    Blacks think they favor lighter features because of “white
    standards of beauty” that were forced on them. Even though, lighter features
    are favored universally. But, what is so
    interesting is women of all cultures seem to prefer men that are taller. Now is this natural or was this a secret
    conspiracy among tall men to force their standard onto them.

    • Funruffian

      So you blame Whites for Blacks hating themselves?

      • tech

        No, I was being sarcastic. (that was me by the way, my disqus is messing up)

    • Bossman

      All humans are programmed to prefer certain things. Light-skinned women are universally preferred among all men. According to the radical feminists, this it is because with light skin a woman looks more naked and therefore more desirable. The hominidization process appears to be partly sexual. The first person to turn naked was a woman, the first person to walk upright was a woman, the first person to turn white was a woman.

      • jane johnson

        OK, I’ll say it: For the most part, radical feminists are a bunch of homely, overweight, misanthropic haters who couldn’t get laid at a Viagra party, and resent well-adjusted, good looking women who have few problems dealing with the opposite sex.Don’t get me wrong, I think that the ERA was necessary, and I’m all for equal pay, etc., but the whole feminist movement has been perverted and turned into a cult of PC victimhood that has alienated more women than it has attracted in recent years. “Now, shut up, and grovel, you useless piece of manliness!”

        • Bossman

          Those unhappy crazies can discover certain truths sometimes. They can read books and do some heavy thinking. I would prefer all women to look like Jane Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe or even Jennifer Lopez will do.

        • For the most part, radical feminists are a bunch of homely, overweight, misanthropic haters who couldn’t get laid at a Viagra party, and resent well-adjusted, good looking women who have few problems dealing with the opposite sex.

          You’re assuming many radical feminists want to “get laid” with a man.

          Let me spell it out for you:

          Lesbians.

          They “resent…women who have few problems dealing with the opposite sex” because they’re militant lesbians (lesbian women far more than gay men think they speak and think for all women, while gay men are more atomistic in their sociopolitics), and they morally oppose any woman being in a relationship with any man. This is why lesbian/feminist women are so hung up on aborticide, the holy sacrament of the church/cult of gender equality, even though pregnancy is impossible in a lesbian relationship, because pregnancy implies that to which they are philosophically opposed: A woman involved in a heterosexual relationship.

          • jane johnson

            Maybe I wasn’t explicit enough about the lesbian angle; thought it was given. I never said that these women WANTED sex with men, merely that they weren’t particularly alluring to men. The fact that they HATE men is the salient point. There’s a big difference between hate and lack of sexual attraction. For example, I know quite a few gay guys, and there’s no hatred of women, regardless of whether they’re active in the “LGBT” movement or not. That rabid hatred seems to be peculiar to the hijacked feminist movement, and I find it despicable, as well as self-defeating.

          • AllSeeingEyeSpy

            “I know quite a few gay gays, and there’s no hatred of women”

            You might dig a little deeper and discover something else. .

          • jane johnson

            Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t know what you mean by “something else”.

  • pcmustgo

    Genetically, she’s about 1/4th to 1/8th black.

    • IanJMacDonald

      And yet that’s enough to qualify for affirmative action quotas. I’ve asked liberals, “How black must one be to be considered officially black for US government standards?” They never give me a straight answer, but it seems that the left has adopted the old one-drop rule.

  • AllSeeingEyeSpy

    I remember when jet magazine reported that black men were marrying outside of their race at something like at rate of 10 times as often as black women. I guess some information along those lines wouldn’t be good ‘investigative’ reporting.

    • Camielle Belle Poole

      A lot of the reason for this is that black women in general are taught that it’s wrong and black men are taught that it’s okay for them. Even desirable. Black men view white women as trophies of their own achievement. Black women are told that they BELONG to black men. A lot of my friends have expressed that they are afraid they will not find partners because the “decent” black men are marrying out and no one wants to marry down. Black men perceive black women to be stuck up because on average we tend to have higher standards and better education. So many black women just do not marry at all. Many women in my family have ivy league educations and ended up marrying white men simply because that’s what is available to them. But that’s only in my generation really.

  • Bossman

    So why is it that dark-skinned Indians belong to the untouchable caste in the old caste system?

    • BonusGift

      Bingo; and, hence his sensitivity.

  • BonusGift

    Personally, I’d be more attracted to her if it was simply a bowl hanging there, but I see your point, I think. Anyway, you’re not going to call me ‘racist’ are you? I think I’ve made my re-educators proud.

  • I always turned papers in with a 9×12 self-addressed stamped envelope.

  • Romulus

    The most obvious reason should be staring us all in the face. There can be only ONE MAJORITY at one time in power. Surely,you don’t want to cede control of country to a non European ,non white majority, Do you? We already KNOW who’s pulling the strings on the left? Shall we just hand over America in the interest of peace?
    Right now the only power the darkies have is sucking off the gravy train of whites tax base, imagine what would happen if they acquired REAL POWER. Such as an numerical advantage or the key positions in the agencies of govt that count. Think about that for a moment.

    • Camielle Belle Poole

      You can’t have it both ways Rom. You can’t complain about how black mooch off whites and the system and then not want black empowerment.

      • Romulus

        Au contraire! Sure I can! If all Africans in America blame the white man for every problem that has befallen them, logically on e would assume they’d likely want to live where they already are the majority, ie Africa. Yet ,seeing how the continent is still an economic backwater they still complain about being disadvantaged.

        • Camielle Belle Poole

          All is a strong word. I don’t really know many blacks that express hatred for white people. The ignorant ones who don’t want to work probably do. Yes there is a brutal history of enslavement and discrimination. But, you have to let that go. Many black people recognize that the good old “white devil” excuse only works for so long. If you drop of out of school, that’s your fault. You can’t blame white people.

          There is a lot of internal fighting because educated black people are starting to go (oh no!) Republican, and are viewed as betraying other blacks. I got into a heated argument because I’m strongly anti-welfare and I think people should have to be drug tested regularly to get government funds. But if you’re black and you say things like that you’re accused of “taking things from your people”. It’s ridiculous.

          I think you are confusing empowerment with supremacy. Black empowerment is not a challenge to the current power structure in any fashion, and it will be a long time until it is. First of all there is no black unification. There are a lot of hang ups about geography and we generally dislike being lumped together. Black Americans, Africans, and West Indians have strong opinions of each other that need to be overcome before any major changes can occur.

          • Romulus

            Then your not really looking in the right places. Firstly,don’t mistake my defense of my people for anything else than as such. I only want what the elite of the 60s promised. White compromise and capitulation =peace. It has of course been a farce. That does not mean,however, that I can’t”see” beauty or brains, achievement and accomplishment in any group of people on earth. While, I think Ben Carson,for example is an Allegheny man, I don’t want him breeding with my niece. I don’t care what happened in history to supposed victim groups. I wasn’t here for it and neither we’re any alive today. I refuse to accept personal responsibility of past grievances. In nature, there is no such thing as egalitarianism, humans are still part of the natural world and subject to its laws. There is only power. Some wield ,some don’t. Sharing it occurs simultaneously and is called altruism. However, because of the true nature of diversity and in group out group consciousness, groups that share for their benefit do not have to share for smothers. That is the very essence of survival of the fittest. So, I’ll sum up to say that I’ll defend my people against all comers. Im sick and tired of heating how awful we are. I can appreciate nice people of any group but I would never under any circumstances turn traitor to them. No matter what people believe. I can’t be anything else than what I am and neither can you. Diversity is the very instrument of conflict, even of humans of the same race. If I wanted to live in a land where blacks are the majority, I’d move to south Africa. You see how that turned out for the white. I enjoy good dialogue, so thank you for your comment. You have your world view and I have mine.

          • Romulus

            It is not possible according to evolutionary biology to make one race out of the seven billion people, camille Poole, that reside on earth. It is also not possible according to the known laws of physics and current resource allocation and distribution to give everyone on earth or even in America the “American dream”. There is no such thing as deserves in the natural world. There is only enough to go around depending on what is available to consume and the medium of exchange for said resources. Nobody deserves a darn thing from Whitey. The system we’ve created, has allowed billions of people to exist. Directly attributable the magic( technology) that has been produced by the West. So the very people and the accompanying civilization we’ve created has allowed for the greatest level of comfort and amenity humans have ever seen. Yet people that don’t have think they deserve something for only contributing labor. Yours is not the only people yo have ever been in bondage. The English word serf, means slave. You didn’t have it any worse than my ancestors. If some choose to mix it up , fine,that’s their business. I can’t stand media advocacy of it. People should make their own choices ,not be steered by media. I like who my people and I are and we should have the right to be who we are ,the same as any other people despite what past grievances others have against us.

  • Steven Bannister

    The tragedy here is that dark-skinned girls would NOT feel insecure about their dark skin if they lived in Africa or anywhere among their own people where darkness is the “norm.” Living in a white-centric culture probably IS very psychologically damaging to blacks.

    Another thing: There could just as easily be a film about UGLY women, or fat women or very short men. ALL people face challenges of some kind or another.

  • TheAntidote

    “The skin issue is a discussion we all have to have—-so we can eradicate it.”

    Oh, yeah…….at this point we can play the woody woodpecker hysterical laughter sound track. The skin, the skin, the skin…yes, we’ve been down this path many times. There is an expression, “She has no skin in the game,” but in the case of American Negroes the skin is the whole game. The skin is their passport to privilege; the skin is their ticket to freebies and goodies. They will never stop talking about dey skin.

    ‘Jus bekawz dee kullah ub muh skin!’

    As others have expressed above, other races and peoples of higher melanin count resent and decline to be lumped together with Africans. No other group on earth has “the bad hair problem,” in fact wigs for American Negroes are made from the hair of South Indian, Dravidian women.

  • ncpride

    Anti black hatred in this country… BAHA! Your ilk are glorified, praised, and presented as the life-saving hero in every movie, TV series and commercial on the air, while YT is portrayed as the stupid, clueless, criminal ones, and you complain about BIAS?! There is no other race of people on earth with such egos and an over inflated sense of entitlement as blacks. LOL…I really needed the laugh that came with your post.

  • ncpride

    How were ‘ideals’ of beauty ‘forced’ on those people? You either think someone is attractive or not. I don’t see how you could force it on anybody. That comment makes no sense.

    • Bossman

      According to Charles Darwin, the father of evolutionary biology, all humans, no matter of primitive, are able to recognize beauty when they see it.

      • ncpride

        I like the old adage…. ‘ Beauty is in the eye of the beholder’…

  • OlderWoman

    Interesting that the ‘winners’ are such losers.

  • Neuday

    This documentary is useful in explaining that all humans are racists. It’s human nature to discriminate by skin color. It might not be right, but’s there for a reason, and quite possibly a good one. In today’s America, only a fool doesn’t notice the general tendencies of people grouped by skin color.

  • Gereng

    Indians are not negroes…There is more in play than skin color where negroes are concerned. Like low IQ, much instinctive behavior and emotional instability!
    Northern Indians are the ones who began, organized against the Brits and
    won independence. The Congress party was totally dominated by light skinned northerners. However, dark Dravidians were mainly responsible for India’s high culture during its formative period. The chaos up north (Kashmir) is a Muslim vs Hindu fight. It has nothing to do with real nature of north Indian culture and abilities.

  • Bardon Kaldian

    I don’t know about most commentators, but I find dark skin not so alien as typically negroid facial features. It’s face -and physique- more than skin color ….

  • Spartacus

    Didn’t know about that one, thanks.

  • Camielle Belle Poole

    I was recently at a lunch with a bunch of young college aged black women and this documentary came up in conversation. I haven’t seen it yet (though I suppose I should), but the others were talking about light skinned men and women and their sense of entitlement relating it back to the documentary. I will admit that some truly do act like they are better than darker people. I have had the experience of a light skinned guy getting angry that I was unfazed by his sexual advances by implying I’m lucky he spoke to me. That said, I’m not sure that has anything at all to do with skin colour. I’ve gotten that sort of reaction regardless of race, age and colour. (Whatever.) Light skin doesn’t mean pretty. I know a girl who is so light she’s almost white and I think she is SO ugly. She just has unattractive features. I would rather have my skin tone and look like me than trade with her.

    Anyway. I think that people need to stop pulling the race/colour card especially when it comes to looks. Beautiful people come in every colour and ugly people come in every colour. Confidence comes from within and NO ONE can make you feel inferior without your permission. It’s been pointed out that I wear my hair straight and I wear coloured lenses and so I must be trying to whiten up. That’s idiotic (especially considering some of my lenses are for cosplay). That’s like implying that white women with lip injections want to be black. It’s just a style or a look.

    But I wanted to ask white people…is this not similar to the Blonde Hair Blue Eyed aspiration many white women have?