Racial Tensions Flare at Queens Redistricting Hearing

Ross Barkan, Politicker, January 15, 2013

Unlike Teddy Roosevelt, the president he quoted at last night’s Queens redistricting hearing, Republican Councilman Dan Halloran spoke loudly and did not carry a big stick.

Mr. Halloran’s bruising 2009 City Council race in northeast Queens cast a long shadow over the hearing in Long Island City- the third of its kind in front of a commission tasked with the decennial redrawing of districts to reflect demographic changes in the city- where he and allied civic groups clashed with Asian advocacy organizations about whether a neighborhood, Oakland Gardens, should be incorporated into Mr. Halloran’s 19th District. The heavily Asian neighborhood, which groups like the Asian American Community Coalition on Redistricting and Democracy (ACCORD) believe should be joined with nearby Bayside to empower Asian-American voters in the area, is currently in Councilman Mark Weprin’s district.

“Additionally, contrary to some public submissions which call for the creation of a Asian or other ethnic district, I cannot help but to recall the words of the great New Yorker and president, Teddy Roosevelt when he said that, ‘There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americans,’” Mr. Halloran said. “We do not have proposals to create an Irish district, an Italian district, a Greek district, a district of green eyed people or a district of left handed people.”

Though a bevy of Asian advocacy organizations believe Oakland Gardens, which many locals call Bayside, should be naturally joined with Bayside in the 19th District, Mr. Halloran sharply disagreed. The seemingly small matter of where the district line ultimately falls could determine Mr. Halloran’s political future. In 2009, he was able to defeat the Korean-American Democrat Kevin Kim in what was an election defined by race and religion. If Asian advocacy organizations get the district lines they want, Mr. Halloran may not a win a second or third term, especially if an Asian candidate like Mr. Kim emerges in the future (no Asian candidates have filed to run in this year’s 19th District race).

Groups like ACCORD, Korean Americans for Political Advancement or the Asian-American Legal Defense and Education Fund (AALDEF) profess to be nonpartisan and bristle at any assertions that they support one candidate or oppose another. {snip}

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Mr. Halloran and his predominately white civic allies had their own qualms with the commission as well, testifying that a section of suburban northern Flushing should be drawn into Mr. Halloran’s leafier district. This proposal was not contested by members of the public, unlike the latest draft of the 28th District, which ropes in Jamaica, Rochdale, Richmond Hill and South Ozone Park. While the district, until this point, has been primarily a place where the aforementioned advocacy groups have argued that the area’s booming South Asian and Indo-Caribbean populations should be granted greater voting power, it emerged last night as a battleground between Asian civic groups and the larger African-American community on the other side of the Van Wyck Expressway.

Represented by the African-American Ruben Wills, the district has traditionally elected black council members. South Asians in Richmond Hill have complained that those council members, like the late Tom White Jr., neglected the western portion of the district. The proposed district would be about 45 percent black, down from 48 percent in the current district with the Asian population growing from about 16 to 18 percent and the Hispanic population growing from about 17 to 18 percent.

“This is a predominately and historically black community of middle class families residing in one and two family homes,” said southeast Queens resident Florence Johnson. “I find these attempts to skew these lines to create a new majority that includes Asian, Hispanic and other ethnicities is a clear attempt to disenfranchise my historically black community.”

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  • Alex

    Archie Bunker was right in wanting to keep the blacks, Puerto Ricans and Asians away from him (and out of America). How quickly we’re degenerating into third-world, tribal politics and keeping any legitimate integrity as far away as possible. Diversity, what a false and dangerous god.

    • pcmustgo

      A multi-headed monster!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • pcmustgo

        A 1,000 headed , hyphenated-american monster!!!!!!!!!!

        • Some Guy

          Monster-Americans have rights too!

    • You don’t see a lot of ‘All in the Family’ reruns. It makes me wonder. Are they now afraid people would see Archie Bunker as a prophet and not a bigot?

      • Cheri Rodriguez

        Not a whole lot of “Sanford & Son” reruns either with Redd Foxx screaming about Puerto Ricans. Funny how they aimed the gags at PRs (a handful in California in the 1970s) instead of Mexicans and/or Chicanos.

      • Marc B.

        Almost every episode I’ve seen convinced me he was the rational one, and that was in spite of his depiction as being simple-minded and agitated most of the time. Meathead always seemed like the delusional one. There is a mildly race realistic episode where the family get’s held up in a home invasion by black criminals who mock race traitor Meathead for making excuses for the blacks who are robbing them. They show more respect to Archie (who they deem a bigot) and show scorn for Stivic “well lookee here, what we got here is a libber-al.”

        I’ve often thought the show is not shown much any because Archie’s sensibilities might mesh with a new generation of brainwashed White viewers buried survival instincts.

  • LastBastionOfHope

    Ok when blacks want their own areas. Ok when asians want their own areas. Ok when hispanics want their own ares. When whites want their own areas…WHAT?! You must be a skinhead nazi racist white supremacist! If I had to invite any race of people in my area though it would be asians because whites and asians get along very well. Similar values and same work ethic, and emphasis on education with almost zero crime.

    • pcmustgo

      They get a long well, but mingle very little socially in the grand scheme of things… most asians stick to their “asian-american” social groups. I mean, other than the asian women dating a few white men.

      • Doppleganger

        According to the NY Times, although the U.S. is becoming more multicultural, interracial dating by Asians is actually decreasing. Most likely because the identity of Asian-Americans as a group has become significantly stronger in recent years. They’re breaking out of traditional areas of strength, and have a greater presence in things like pro sports and music; 2012 was a banner year for them in that regard.

        Compared to Asians, there have been far greater intentional efforts to integrate blacks into American society. However, despite all the welfare and artificial elevation, African-American’s are unable to make any lasting improvement to themselves, and are a huge net drain on America.

    • The__Bobster
      • TeutonicKnight67

        THAT was my final wake up call with ‘asians”. 75% voted against the white guy. Any respect that I may have had for them was destroyed by the election. They can go straight back where they came from.

        • anonymous

          While Asians will not beat you up or gang up on you, they will stick with their own like blacks, like Hispanics, like Middle Easterners, etc. It’s whites who don’t think they should and/or are told not to. There’s got to come a point where white people’s collective guilt and fear turns into collective racial pride and backbone like we used to have. There has to come a time where the traitors in our race will be ran out of town or the countries we live in and will pay for their anti-white agendas.

          • Marc B.

            That is a byproduct of most US Whites coming from a “high trust” societies in Western and Northern Europe and being the dominant group in the US for so long. Southern Europeans and Whites in racially marginalized areas know better.

          • Pearl

            Very true. I’ve been pretty tolerant about Asians because I’m not worried about them hurting me. If you actually live or spend alot of time in “their” areas, you will notice their hostility. True, they won’t likely harm you physically, but if you think they are your natural societal allies, you live in a world of illusion.

  • Joseph Magellan

    “I find these attempts to skew these lines to create a new majority that includes Asian, Hispanic and other ethnicities is a clear attempt to disenfranchise my historically black community.”

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    What hypocrites.

    I have to laugh, by the way, because otherwise steam would be coming out of my ears.

    But when I remember what their IQ is, I forgive them and just laugh at their insulting hypocrisy.

  • Lost

    Queens, NY is a veritable Babel. It is probably the most diverse area in the world. If you are
    of European ancestry you will feel as if someone chloroformed you and shipped you
    to some non-disclosed 3rd world country where 500,000 of every nationality/ethnic group has been transported and dropped off as well… you will wake up the only white guy and immediately plan your escape.

    • kjh64

      I agree. I took a vacation to New York City about 5 years ago as I had never been. I stayed in Queens because it was cheaper. I looked around and asked myself if I was in America? The majority of people were non-White and not only non-White but all different types and all different languages and cultures. I remember it being dirty in a lot of places and trash piled up. It also seemed a cold place where there was no sense of culture or community. It felt lonely. I realize I was just a tourist but I’ve never felt more alone then in a place with all these cultures. I felt like I was in a foreign land.

      • Lost

        I live in Queens, NY and I feel as you felt here every day. This virtual homestead is my gasps for air. When my girlfriend retires from teaching in 9 years we will head out West (South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana are all in the cards; one of them will be our Elysium). I feel there is nothing worth fighting for here. If North Koreans started parachuting from the sky I’d probably make them eggs and give them a long list of names and addresses of those who work for The New York Times.

        • Pearl

          9 years? It’s none of my business, but wouldn’t your girlfriend rather spend the next 9 years teaching in one of the places you mentioned, rather than Queens?

          • Lost

            She wants that pension and she has an elderly father. I think she is worth the wait; it is just unfortunate that the waiting room is filled with many undesirables. If it is true, what does not kill one makes one stronger I should be the toughest SOB if I survive it all.

    • saxonsun

      It’s the most diverse area in the nation, meannig it has been destroyed. We go there a lot and I can tell you that there are areas where one sees NO white folks. My friend has a joke; “I go to Flushing Meadows park and count the white people.”

  • The__Bobster

    “I find these attempts to skew these lines to create a new majority that
    includes Asian, Hispanic and other ethnicities is a clear attempt to
    disenfranchise my historically black community.”
    ____________

    Gee, what happened to the Rainbow Coalition?

    • liberalsuck

      Yeah, and what about “uniting” the Asians, Hispanics and black together ‘against whitey’? You will see more and more of this as time goes on. As the white population grows more armed and more pissed at their government, I think the powderkeg will explode. You can just feel tension in the air these days.

  • Ulick

    ““We do not have proposals to create an Irish district, an Italian district, a Greek district, a district of green eyed people or a district of left handed people.”

    This guy is trying to use logic and a sense of fair play and ‘we’re all in this together’ sentiment on minorities. Ha! Foolish whites don’t get it. Minorities don’t care about logic, fair play, and being in it together. They care about allegiance to their race and how much power that can garner them. So, foolish white, rather than having your argument fall on deaf ears, just say, “Alright, we’re going to redistrict for the benefit of white Americans so that white Americans can have more power.”. Afterall, that’s what everybody except for whites do.

  • RaymondWalnuts

    If all of these pets can have their own districts, the next logical step is white districts. Lets just segregate again, purge,and rebuild.

  • RaymondWalnuts

    Whine, whine, gibsmedat…

  • enough already

    Queens has certainly not benefited from 1965 immigration bill.The Orientals have wrecked a once nice town,Flushing.Not to mentionJackson Hts. and almost every other former white section.Nothing for us in Queens.

  • Some Guy

    “This is a predominately and historically black community of middle class families residing in one and two family homes,” said southeast Queens resident Florence Johnson. “I find these attempts to skew these lines to create a new majority that includes Asian, Hispanic and other ethnicities is a clear attempt to disenfranchise my historically black community.”

    What about historically White communities? Ohh wait that would be rayciss! Enough with the liberal hypocritical double speak!

    • BernieGoetzFan

      I hope they do disenfranchise her.

  • kjh64

    ‘There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americans,’” Mr. Halloran said. “We do not have proposals to create an Irish district, an Italian district, a Greek district, a district of green eyed people or a district of left handed people.”

    The problem is that multiculturalism of different races goes against human nature. When you get different races together in large numbers, they split according to racial line. That is why the USA will eventually disentigrate along racial lines if things continue.

    • IstvanIN

      Teddy Roosevelt was right and the multiculturalists are wrong. Latin America is a 500 year old failed experiment in multiculturalism.

  • bigone4u

    I love it when diversity and multiculturism creates chaos, especially in a liberal enclave like New York. Too bad no fist fights and multicultural mischief did not break out. Maybe next time.

  • “I find these attempts to skew these lines to create a new majority that includes Asian, Hispanic and other ethnicities is a clear attempt to disenfranchise my historically black community.”
    I’ve said it before: ‘That which is historically white must be destroyed. That which is historically black must be preserved at all costs’.

  • IKantunderstand

    This a predominately and historically White country, Florence Johnson. I find the attempts to skew the population to create a new majority as a clear attempt to disenfranchise my historically White community.

  • MartelC

    ‘There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americans,’” Mr. Halloran
    Those are ‘white’ views. Chinese for example will respect them as much as they respect our exotic species laws.

  • me

    Where are the ethnic “White” political advocates in this country? Oh, yes….that would be RACIST!

  • ATBOTL

    These Asians in Queens aren’t buying white conservative delusions of colorblindness they are making a racial power grab.

  • mike5586

    Diversity is our strength!