Racial Hatred Bill Offers Open Slather to Obnoxious

Paul Sheehan, Sydney Morning Herald, January 14, 2013

Vermin n.1.noxious, troublesome, or objectionable animals collect-ively, especially troublesome or disgusting insects …3. obnoxious persons collectively.’

Several years ago I wrote a book about vermin, the kind defined by the third meaning in the Macquarie Concise Dictionary. Researching the book required me to sit in courts for months and go out and interview dozens of people. The heroine of the book was a teenager named Tegan Wagner who had been gang-raped by a group of young Muslim men. She came from the Shire and as her case was nearing an end, and I was nearing completion of Girls Like You, the notorious Cronulla riot took place.

It was December 11, 2005. Wagner was there. “When I heard about it, I wanted to go,” she told me at the time.

“I’m a Shire girl. I’ve been going to Cronulla for years. I’d seen first-hand how people get treated, not by the local Lebanese, but by the Lebanese Muslims that come in from places like Bankstown and Riverwood. They treat our beaches like a sleazy nightclub. They treat young women like garbage. And as soon as you say anything, they are on their mobile phones, to 50 of their closest friends, and their mates come down and outnumber people. If it’s guys, they will beat them up. If it’s girls, they will terrorise them.”

After the riot, and the following violent rampage by Muslim men in convoys of cars, I interviewed dozens of people from the Shire and they all gave me variations of what a teacher at Cronulla High School told me: “It’s so disturbing that the images [of the riot] distributed around Australia and the world never mentioned the beatings, the provocations, the filth. They were not even discussed.

“Every girl I know has either been harassed or knows someone who’s been harassed. It’s not just young girls. I’ve been followed on numerous occasions. It’s just constant harassment. The word ‘slut’ gets used all the time.”

None of this was aired at the time. The media’s story had one theme, the Shire’s white racism. A deafening silence about the real cause of the tension came from the feminists, much the same people now so indignant about white male misogyny.

Seven years later, nothing has changed. Now Fairfax Media is supporting the complaint by the NSW Premier, Barry O’Farrell, that nobody is being jailed for hate speech, which means the anti-discrimination laws should be toughened. The prime example used by Fairfax Media in its coverage was Alan Jones.

In the week before the Cronulla riot, Jones described the young Muslim men who for years had been sexually harassing women on the beach as “vermin” and “mongrels” who “rape and pillage”. That was the context of his comments, a context which dropped away entirely as a prosecution for hate speech by the Administrative Decisions Tribunal dragged on for seven years. No mention was made in Sunday’s news reports of the far more sinister and contemporaneous example of public hate speech on September 15 last year.

During a demonstration that turned violent in Sydney, some protesters carried provocative placards including one infamous message, “Behead those who insult the Prophet”. Many wore headbands with Arabic script exhorting jihad. Among the chants was, “Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell”.

Another telling moment came in the aftermath of the demonstration when supporters of a Muslim man charged with assaulting police refused to stand when the magistrate entered the court. It was a calculated act of disrespect for Australian law.

One hopes the parliamentary inquiry ordered by the Premier, which will consider diluting the section of the Anti-Discrimination Act that requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt of serious racial vilification, will be alert to the way in which anti-discrimination and anti-vilification laws are abused.

Vexatious or zealous litigants, such as religious fundamentalists, have only marginal interest in the outcome of their complaint. It is the threat of formal complaint, and the complaint process itself, with the burdens of compliance, which is used as a weapon against opponents.

As if to confirm every warning made before the previous Victorian Labor government introduced laws on anti-vilification, the first major test of the law came when Muslim fundamentalists sought to use it as a weapon against Christian fundamentalists.

This proposal by O’Farrell is part of the latest push by the political class, of which he is a fully paid-up member, to increase the power and reach of the political class. In Canberra, the Attorney-General, Nicola Roxon, has released a draft Human Rights and Anti-Discrimination Bill 2012, which seeks to introduce an expanded never-never of nebulous categories of discrimination offences. It includes speech that “offends” or “insults”. It extends the categories of potential discrimination to “political opinion” and “social origin”.

Every aspect of the draft law is biased towards expanding the possibilities of complaint. It will make it easier for complaints to be lodged.

Shockingly, the draft bill reverses the onus of proof. A person accused of discrimination will be deemed guilty until the claim has been dismissed. The bill then even requires defendants who have been found not guilty to pay their own legal costs.

Complaints will be heard by the Australian Human Rights Commission, which is desperate to increase its relevance, and the Federal Magistrates Court, which already has more than enough of a caseload. The draft federal bill has been submitted to the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee, which is due to report on February 18.

In NSW, the parliamentary inquiry ordered by the Premier will conduct public hearings in April.

Both these proposed changes to the law are being treated as paradisaical by the human rights industry.

This alone should send an alarm to the rest of the community.

It should also alarm the parliamentary inquiry but it never seems to occur to the members of the political class—politicians, staffers, lobbyists, bureaucrats and lawyers—that the extension of the government power via micro-management, regulation and compulsion has been cumulatively unceasing for more than a century to the point of social, legal and moral sclerosis.

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  • Dude

    You could fairly describe me as “anti-Semitic”, for all types of Semite.

    • JohnEngelman

      Those who dislike Jews resent them because Jews are superior.

      • Dude

        Go tup an Asian, you donkey.

        • JohnEngelman

          Orientals are superior too.

          • Dude

            Name me an Asian Michelangelo, Tesla or Hitler.

          • Svigor

            Engelman’s such a loser, lol.

          • JohnEngelman

            Dude,

            You seem to admire Adolf Hitler. Do you?

          • Dude

            That very name makes your payot stand up, doesn’t it?

          • The__Bobster

            You like your Orientals in a female superior position, Yuan.

          • IstvanIN

            Keep the conversation clean.

          • Anders

            I agree….but I did have a laugh there Istvan.

          • Ron

            Then why are so many of them living in shacks and eating dog meat? Why are so many of them flocking to White western countries? If you think Asians are so superior then move to China and go work in a sweatshop.

          • JohnEngelman

            If Professor J. Philippe Rushton, who spoke at six American Renaissance Conferences, was still alive, he could give you a better answer than I can. This is what he wrote in his essay, “RACE, EVOLUTION, AND BEHAVIOR.”

            “On average, Orientals are slower to mature, less fertile, less sexually active, less aggressive, and have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole. Whites fall in the middle…

            “Race differences start in the womb. Blacks are born earlier and grow quicker than Whites and Orientals. The three-way race pattern occurs in milestones such as sexual maturity, family stability, crime rates, and population growth.

          • Gus

            IQ is a big factor but not the only one. Other individual traits play a huge role as well. Willingness to try new things, innovative abilities, conformity levels things that cannot be measured accurately at least for the time being. The evidence we have at the moment, points to the conclusion that while Orientals have a higher IQ (this is a fact) for some reason they didn’t became the prevailing civilization.

            Saying that Orientals are superior to whites because of higher IQ is incredibly shortsighted

          • JohnEngelman

            After the fall of the Western Roman Empire Europe fell into a dark age that lasted for centuries. The ability to read and write was lost to virtually everyone but Roman Catholic clergymen. Most of these were of limited literacy.

            From the fall of the Western Roman Empire to the Italian Renaissance China and the Arab world were more advanced than Europe.

            After the expulsion of the Mongolian conquers in 1368 the Chinese became xenophobic. They decided that they were “the middle kingdom,” surrounded by barbarians who had nothing of value to teach them.

            When European powers began to aggress against China in the nineteenth century the Manchu Dynasty had entered into the sort of organic decay that Chinese dynasties experienced after one or two hundred years. Moreover, the Manchus were Manchurians rather than Han Chinese. This limited their ability to appeal to Chinese nationalism.

            When Sun Yat Sen died in 1925 no Chinese leader with his leadership ability and integrity rose to take his place. Chaing Kai Chek and Mao Tse Tung were dictators who valued personal power more than the well being of the Chinese.

            The civil war they fought, and the Japanese invasion further impeded the development of China.

            Currently China is ascending, as the United States declines. It is not even clear that the United States will remain united. If it happens the fall of the United States, unlike the fall of the Soviet Union, will be violent. There are too many guns in this country, and too many groups of people who hate each other.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2RREUyPe38

          • Gus

            I am well aware of the fact that there are many factors at play here. Which is exactly why blanket statements about a superiority of one race solely based on IQ are, again, shortsighted.

            Psychology is a big factor. You think whites would have that big of a problem with blacks if they had the same intelligence but their aggressiveness was massively lower? Of course I would still not want them but some very serious issues would be solved that way.

            Same thing with East Asians and to a lesser degree Arabs (disregarding the cancer that is Islam) I respect them, and the civilizations they have built and are capable of building. I don’t want them in my country though. I don’t think them or us, overall, are ”superior”. Superior at what exactly?

            All races have advantages and disadvantages. Throw a white guy and a black guy in the jungle with a stick, the black has an advantage because of biology and evolution over thousands of years. Put the same guys in Iceland and the situation is reversed because of the same reason.

            I don’t put down East Asians, I was commenting against your view of their ‘superiority’.

          • David Ashton

            Sheer intelligence (as measured by IQ tests) is not the only criterion to consider. The ethnic issue is also important. White Gentiles have to look at whether Jewish or Oriental activities are in their own long-term ethnic interests, in the same way that Jews and Chinese look at the world from their own ethnic viewpoints (“Is it good for us Jews?”). I do not hate or despise Jews or Chinese, and think that on some important questions Jewish majority and White Gentile majority interests can coincide. I prefer to seek tactical alliance (e.g. against Muslim immigration) to the revival of Hitler’s view that the Jews are a “race” of incorrigible criminals, which is mistaken in fact, but intensifies fearful yet effective opposition by influential Jews towards white nationalists generally.

          • JohnEngelman

            Civilizations develop most rapidly when they learn from other civilizations. This requires mutual respect. Among other achievements, the Chinese invented paper, gun powder, and the compass. Mathematicians in India invented what we refer to as “Arabic numbers.” The Arabs invented algebra. Important crops, like corn, many beans, potatoes, and tomatoes were developed by the American Indians.

            Diversity that is forced by lowering standards for blacks and Hispanics is not valuable. Nevertheless, diversity that is allowed by admitting Jews and Orientals to the best universities and the best companies certainly helps the development of American technology.

          • David Ashton

            There is a big difference between voluntarily learning this or that from other cultures and replacing your own culture with one or more of theirs by mass immigration and/or geopolitical subjection. The English still like to drink tea, and the Indians still use English as a lingua franca, but we were asked to “Quit India” – and went.

          • David Ashton

            Internet browsing I noticed Michael Hoffman’s Newsletter no 59 on the new nation “The United States of Chinese-Israeli America”, and thought of you.
            Is this publication worth getting?

          • JohnEngelman

            That looks interesting. During a brief cruise on the internet I could not find it. If you have a link to it please post it.

          • David Ashton

            Just up your street, or possibly not! I haven’t read it myself.

            revisionisthistorystore.blogspot.co.uk

          • David Ashton

            revisionisthistorystore.blogspot.co.uk

          • JohnEngelman

            David Ashton,

            Thank you. the author of that essay seems to think that the economic rise of China is somehow illegitimate. I see is a the result of one country having over a billion of the most superior sub race of humans after the Ashkenazim.

            As China rises, the United States declines for reasons that evade easy or obvious political solutions.

            Under the circumstances I think it is prudent for the United States to adjust to the ascension of China, while hoping for the emergence of a democratic government there.

            I do not want Uncle Sam to suffer the fate of the blue adventurer in the following website:

            http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/goodstrategyp11.gif

          • David Ashton

            Previous reply deleted.
            These racial comparisons are not absolute, but statistical overlaps. Also, the bell curves may differ in shape.

      • David Ashton

        I like some Jews and dislike others. I don’t resent anyone superior in socially acceptable abilities to myself, especially as others profit from their gifts. But it is ridiculous to suppose that Jews, whether intelligent or not,never do anything undesirable, or should be immune from accurate criticism, either individually or collectively. The “Holocaust” should not be used to deter reasonable comment, whether or not it is described as “hate speech”. Incitement to violence or crime is something else, and most pornography is not “speech”.

      • The__Bobster

        Their behavior is far from superior. That’s why they’re been expelled from nations over 100 times.

        • Svigor

          No, you ANTI-SEMITE!!! When a man gets thrown out of every bar in town, clearly every bar in town is to blame, and not the man. Evil ANTI-SEMITE!!!

        • JohnEngelman

          Antisemitism is the socialism of the sewer.

          • David Ashton

            Rats from the sewer: Kant, Fourier, Proudhon, Wagner, Sombart, Hyndman.
            Paragons of humanity: Bela Kun, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Yagoda, Kaganovich.

      • Svigor

        Haha, so I suppose the Palestinians are superior to the Jews, then? You empty suit, you. Come to think of it, that makes everyone superior to Jews.

      • gemjunior

        Jews are not superior. If people dislike the ones who are public, it’s because they connive incessantly with one another to increase their control and ownership of everything in whatever area they are in. If that happens to be media, then they will publish and air the parts that are helpful to them and harmful to their enemies. If you are Jewish, you are very typical. I’ve noticed that Jews are convinced of their superiority, and they act based on that idea.

        • IstvanIN

          They work together, something Europeans, and the European diaspora, do not do.

        • Ron

          They run the adult film industry, which degrades white women. They run the media, which is corrupting our youth and attacking our traditional way of life. They are infiltrating our government and attacking our second amendment rights, something that this country was founded upon, a right our forefathers fought and died to protect. They tell us racism is bad, we need to be a rainbow society, meanwhile they murder and force another racial group from their very homes and steal their land, while enforcing policies they would condemn us for pushing and call racist and hateful. Their politicians, such as Feinstein, tell us that we should be disarmed for our own safety and that we cannot be trusted with firearms, meanwhile their home country of Israel has one of the highest rates of gun ownership on the planet. I have never been one to blindly hate anyone, but all of these things considered you would pretty much have to be insane to not oppose these people. I wonder how long my comment will stay up, god forbid someone speaks the truth about the “chosen people”.

        • JohnEngelman

          Jews do not control American media. They have prominence out of proportion to their numbers because of their superior average intelligence. There is no conspiracy. Jews earn their achievements and prosperity.

          If I was Jewish I would not draw so much attention to Jewish superiority.

          In his essay, “Jewish Genius,” Charles Murray wrote this about Jewish humility, “I have personal experience with the reluctance of Jews to talk about Jewish accomplishment—my [Jewish] co-author, the late Richard Herrnstein, gently resisted the paragraphs on Jewish IQ that I insisted on putting in The Bell Curve (1994).”
          http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/jewish-genius/

          • David Ashton

            Your view is too simply mono-causal.
            You disregard the possibility that some activities by Jews or specifically Jewish interests might be reasonably unwelcome to others (and, of course, vice-versa). If so, intelligence and prosperity would only aggravate the annoyance.
            This subject is something that could be discussed on AmRen – if space and time permitted.

          • Amanda

            “Jews do not control American media.” You’re so silly, you’re cute!

          • gemjunior

            Jews do not control American media.
            God John, I’m surprised at you. I think you are just trying to provoke some commentors but you lose all credibility when you make this sort of crazy statement, cancelling out the many intelligent things you’ve said and added knowledge to the comments on so many things. The Jews control media now to the point that not only are they all directors and producers but they are increasingly using actors and actresses that are Jewish, with an eye to eventually phasing out gentiles. No matter how ugly, they will foist them on the public until the public no longer know the difference between ugly and attractive. Lucky for Jews that they’ve interbred with gentiles to the point of introducing some much needed pulchritude into their gene pool, decreasing much of the remaining alien features from their middle eastern origin. Also, they control not only media but academia, finance, government to the point that no one can ever say what they feel unless they are prepared to be destroyed in every way. Nobody denies their high intelligence, but some have been brought to the point of considering it overly focused on projects which cunningly take from others. One thing that no sane person would deny is that they completely and utterly control American media, politics, and academia.

        • Vacheron

          Many tend to think of themselves as aristocrats, entitled to rule everyone and own everything. The arrogance can be breathtaking. This ugly attitude is noticed and creates resentment and anger. They slot the resentment and anger as “antisemitism.” Such a convenient term.

      • StillModerated

        The average IQ of Israel is 94. The average IQ of Germany is 102. Germany is superior to Israel. Lump it John.

        http://www.rlynn.co.uk/pages/article_intelligence/t4.asp

        • JohnEngelman

          StillModerated,

          Richard Lynn’s “Intelligence and the Wealth and Poverty of Nations,” is the most thorough study of IQ differences between countries. Nevertheless it is a series of estimates based on limited data. I think he is usually accurate, and draw your attention to the fact that he estimates that Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Singapore outscore all predominantly white countries:

          http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

          His estimate of of an average IQ score for Israel is perhaps his most controversial estimate. Richard Lynn has spoken at American Renaissance conferences, and I respect his integrity.

          According to a book review that appeared in American Renaissance of Richard Lynn’s book “The Chosen People: A Study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement,” “The development of IQ tests confirmed the impression that Jews were unusually intelligent, and Professor Lynn’s extensive review of the literature indicates that Jews in the US have an average IQ of 110 compared to 100 for other Europeans. This would help account for their outstanding performance in a variety of fields. Though Jews are only about 0.2 percent of the world population, half the world’s chess grandmasters, for example, and 16 percent of Nobel Prize winners for science have been Jews.”

          http://www.amren.com/features/2011/12/the-chosen-people/

          Other estimates of the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews have placed it as high as 115.

          • Jefferson

            Have you ever dated an Ashkenazi woman, or do you only date Asian women ?

          • Anders

            he estimates that Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Singapore outscore all predominantly white countries:

            Well, that’s lovely John…it really is.But I sure would like the British navy on my side instead of the Singapore flotilla in the case of an emergency.

          • Ron

            Without the contributions of white Europeans the entire world would pretty much be in the stone ages. No industrial revolution, no antibiotics, no modern science, no TV, no internet, no computers, no microprocessors, no combustible engine, no flights across the planet in a few relatively short hours, I could go on all day. Can you agree with this statement?

          • JohnEngelman

            From the fall of the Western Roman Empire to the High Middle Ages China was more advanced than the West.

          • Ron

            How about today? Who exactly is selling who military technology? Who is selling who cheap products that don’t last two months before they break, or are covered in toxic paint?

          • JohnEngelman

            This is what is happening today:”SHENZHEN, CHINA — Last year, Zhao Bowen was part of a team that cracked the genetic code of the cucumber. These days, he’s probing the genetic basis for human IQ.

            “Zhao is 17.

            “Centuries after it led the world in technological prowess — think gunpowder, irrigation and the printed word — China has barged back into the ranks of the great powers in science. With the brashness of a teenager, in some cases literally, China’s scientists and inventors are driving a resurgence in potentially world-changing research…

            “China has invested billions in improving its scientific standing. Almost every Chinese ministry has some sort of program to win a technological edge in everything from missiles to medicine. Beijing’s minister of science and technology, Wan Gang, will visit the United States in early July and is expected to showcase some of China’s successes.”
            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/27/AR2010062703639.html

          • JohnEngelman

            The contributions of white Europeans are impressive. Nevertheless, the ancestors of the Chinese left the stone age at least four thousand years ago when they began to work with copper.

            By the time of the Spanish conquests the Incas were beginning to experiment with bronze.

          • Ron

            By the time of 2013 the Incas has begun to experiment with shipping massive quantities of drugs into America and shooting one another by the tens of thousands.

            By the time of this foul year of our lord two thousand and thirteen the Chinese had begun to experiment with slave labor and dumping toxic sludge into rivers.

            Yeah they all seem like really great people.

        • Anders

          Germany One;
          Israel Nil!

      • Sherman_McCoy

        Some are, some are not. And it depends on the type of intelligence that you are referencing. People on Amren are the the first to admit that some races on average have higher levels of intelligence, or testosterone, for that matter. Fact is, superior or not, we prefer our OWN, which is what diversity seeks to take from us.

      • Ron

        You must love Feinstein and Chertoff. You probably love those several thousand dead Palestinian children too eh? Jews, Asians, hey John why do you even come to this site? Wouldn’t the Huffington post be a better hangout spot for someone with your type of views?

        • JohnEngelman

          I enjoy investigating different points of view, and expressing my own. I have enjoyed political arguments ever since I advocated the integration of Westlawn Elementary School in Falls Church, Virginia.

          This is how the Palestinians responded to 9/11.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOZvbYJMvU

          • Ron

            What about the “dancing israelis”?
            What about the Gulf of Tonkin?
            What about the gun grab frenzy from liberal jewish politicians?
            How about dragging us into the middleeast to fight their wars, and demanding we help them take out Iran while their sons are safe in Israel?
            How about the fact that we are forced to give them billions of our tax dollars each year?

          • JohnEngelman

            The Israelis do not force the United States to give them four billion dollars every year. The U.S. government gives Israel that money because most Americans, including me, love Israel.

          • David Ashton

            Somehow the word “love” in this case is wryly amusing.

      • Barrack Osama

        Suppose that Jews are superior. Does that invalidate the need for borders? Does that mean an extended ethnic familial group of peoples that acknowledges itself as a “nation” has no right to self-determination? Does it mean that freedom of association is immoral or evil?

        I think you just like to push people’s buttons around here.

        • JohnEngelman

          I think European Jews are Europeans, sure…

          I think if they — if European Jews wish to assimilate — I think many of them have and do. I don’t see any particular problem there.

          – Jared Taylor, from an interview
          http://www.amren.com/interviews/1999/1221russell-nieli.html

          • David Ashton

            In crudest summary, the overwhelming majority of people who define themselves as Jews are western Caucasians, i.e. “white”. But their specific ancestry within that group largely differs from the Nordic-Alpine-Mediterranean subdivisions of the white subspecies. The Sephardim minority were largely of the Oriental-Mediterranean subdivision. The Ashkenazim majority come primarily from the Armenoid subdivision, also known as Hither Asiatic or Assyriod; the influx from Khazars (if Turkic-Mongoloid) has been much smaller than some anti-Zioinists claim to judge phenotype and recent genetic data.

            The Jewish people also have a different cultural history and experience from the (other) white nations of Europe and their overseas settlement; and both “ethnic groups” have been conscious of this difference, which has often caused severe friction and is recognized by Zionism.

      • OlderWoman

        Perhaps intellectually, but they do have their moral failings by supporting the minority leeches who suck off the government and commit the majority of crime.
        Then there are those like the Rothschilds and Soros (Schwartz) who are crooks.

    • Svigor

      They treat young women like garbage. And as soon as you say anything,
      they are on their mobile phones, to 50 of their closest friends, and
      their mates come down and outnumber people. If it’s guys, they will beat
      them up. If it’s girls, they will terrorise them.”

      The lesson: “take action” immediately, then leave.

      • gemjunior

        I’m sure there are millions of Australians who would LOVE to take “action” but we all know who gets punished. How do decent Westerners who love their countries fight something as pervasive and as powerful as complete control of media and therefore of minds? It’s sometimes seems a daunting and disheartening task.

  • Tim

    You-tube “The Truth About Cronulla” It set me straight. It might set you straight… The opening ten seconds of part one reveals the true provocation.

  • razorrare

    It would seem that the same tribe that runs and mans the presses of MSM in America also runs and mans the presses in Australia.

    • Svigor

      I wouldn’t know. But the thing to remember is, no country is an island. The great Satan influences the rest of the world in myriad ways, and in depth.

    • STRANGE HOW WESTERN DEMOCRATIC NATIONS NOW CONSIDER THEIR OWN PEOPLE AS THE ENEMY

      What will they do next when placing unpopular speech in prison does not work. Will then then start to use Death Camps. So called Free Nations are becoming like the Nazi and Imperial Japanese nations they once loathed.

      • Sloppo

        The so-called “free” nations are on a more dangerous path than national socialism because we’re the multicultural socialists. National socialism forces the productive individual to support less productive members of his or her own race/culture. Multicultural socialism forces the productive individual to support unproductive and often openly hostile groups of people from other races and cultures.

    • zionism?

  • JohnEngelman

    The problem with anti hate language legislation is that it can be used against books like The Bell Curve. Anti hate speech laws can be used to inhibit the kind of dialogue on race that America really needs: a dialogue in which it will be safe to discuss racial differences and the genetic reasons for those differences.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      This is a minor and almost irrelevant part of “hate speech” legislation. The reason why “hate speech” legislation is a problem is because it is criminalizing something we have a God-given right to. And because of the way it is arbitrarily and unequally enforced, it gives some groups/peoples veto power over others.

      • JohnEngelman

        I am no more protective of the use of the n word than I am of burning the American flag. I am in favor of the free dissemination of facts and ideas.

        • Ron

          I love free speech, even if I don’t agree with whatever someone is saying. If someone wants to use the N word I really don’t care. That is their right as a free American citizen, for now.

    • David Ashton

      Do you think that Jews have exercised a disproportionate influence in pushing for “anti ‘hate’ speech” legislation? If so, why?

      • JohnEngelman

        Historically the Jews have had bad experiences with hate speech. That probably influences their stand on the issue.

        I am opposed to the suppression of antisemitic opinions because those opinions are easy to refute. The Jews are not morally inferior. They are biologically superior. All that I ask of antisemites is that they allow me to dispute their assertions.

        Stormfront did not. I was banned for praising the Jews and criticizing Hitler. I wish Stormfront would let me back, so that I could explain with more detail why I admire the Jews and regret the fact that Hitler was ever born.

        • David Ashton

          I agree with your first sentence. In the UK a major driving force for restrictions on “racial speech” was the Board of Deputies of British Jews, but they had some “excuse” in that several initial anti-immigration groups had a history of anti-Jewish activities.
          I also believe that people should be free to debate issues of Judaism, Zionism and “antisemitism”. They are a minefield. Thorough research is needed if such debates are to be fruitful.

        • Remington

          The jews are “biologically superior” now ? HaHaHaHa

          You mean those same big nosed, short, plain looking, unathletic, and unskilful jews whose IQ is supposedly so much superior that they still need the inferior Whites to rescue (WW2) and protect them ( Israel) ? Yeah engleman, and that certainly explains why the modern world you live in and use on a daily basis (i.e. the computer, the Internet and this website) was created and is still led by White people.

          And you dare criticizing Hitler while using the exact same rhetoric about biological superiority….Oh the irony !

          • JohnEngelman

            During the first half of the twentieth century Jews were prominent in boxing, not only as trainers, managers, and journalists, but as boxers. Benny Leonard is considered to be one of the greatest lightweight boxers in the history of the sport, if not the greatest. At the end of the 1920s Ring Magazine named him, rather than Jack Dempsey, as the greatest boxer of the decade.

            In Mein Kampf Adolf Hitler acknowledged the superiority of the Jews. In Volume I, Chapter II, “Years of Study and Suffering,” he wrote, “While thus examining the working of the Jewish race over long periods of history, the anxious question suddenly occurred to me whether perhaps inscrutable Destiny, for reasons unknown to us poor mortals had not unalterably decreed the final victory of this little race?”

            In Volume I, Chapter XI, “Nation and Race,” Hitler wrote, “Today the Jew is looked upon as ‘clever,’ and in a certain sense he has been so at all times.”

      • OlderWoman

        Probably because some of the rumors about their true relationship with the Germans will come to the forefront. It will expose them for who they really are.

  • The__Bobster

    A deafening silence about the real cause of the tension came from the
    feminists, much the same people now so indignant about white male
    misogyny.
    _________

    It’s the same all over the White world. Feminist have an unholy alliance with anyone non-White.

    • Sean

      Look at the “____ Studies”. Women are taught that they are an oppressed minority and are in the same camp as blacks, browns, and gays.

      The most insidious thing these marxists have tried to do is separate white men and women from each other.

      • OlderWoman

        This is disgusting…this talk about women being an oppressed minority. As a woman I am frequently in contact with women my age who claim to be feminists. They have a number of failed marriages, hard luck stories and buy into whatever Socialist propaganda they hear. They never question the validity of the programming they choose to hear…and they LOVE Melissa Harris-Penry. They are Bleeding Heart Liberals. These are Southern women I’m talking about and boy do they commisserate about how badly men have treated them. By listening to them complain I learn a lot…specifically why white men often chose Asians for mates.

        • Liberalsuck

          Pretty attractive white women are not oppressed. Sorry. If they are servers, they will get bigger tips. A man will give them a job or a raise simply because they’re cute. Women can get loans to start a business just because they’re a woman. A woman can declare her business a “women-owned business” but see if a white man can have a ‘man-owned business’ or a ‘white-male owned business’ and you will be in hell quicker than you can say Jesse Jackson.

    • Notice it’s not about ‘coexistence’, but, payback and retribution against Whites. Complacency will render Whites extinct, unless they ‘wake up’ and do what is necessary–by violence, if necessary to stop this crap.

  • Richard Williams

    Why are the diverse white peoples so reluctant to pick up statutes like these and file numerous complaints themselves? It seem obvious that an attackback is the best defense. Let’s realize that we have really passed into the sociology of a politicized multiracial land in which each demographic affinity group will have to stand on its own two feet.

    I know one organization at this time, ResistingDefamation.org, that teaches how to talk about, and attackback, at slurs and hate labels. They are pretty successful regionally. But that’s what we are going to have to do, not just complain. Yes, America changed drastically since G.I.s went willingly to fight in Europe during WW II when the slogan was, “A war to save our way of life!” We’ve all seen how that went.

    But quit complaining. Be men and women…come together to plan the attackback. We are far more often the victim of hate speech than we are the perpetrator, and the same goes for hate crimes.

  • bigone4u

    A third world crime spree is coming to America’s campuses and I can’t wait for the fun to begin.
    With the push to universalize higher education in America, more and more of the third world trash and scum that start sh*t with women and everyone else are showing up to get their cheap degrees.
    Crime and campus tension has been and will be going up. It will be interesting to see how long the antiwhite crap slung around by profs will stick when white students observe themselves being brutalized, insulted, and trashed. The third world students will have easy pickings with dumb liberal profs spouting their liberal nonsense about the noble nonwhite races and how terrible whites have been to them.

  • Token Finn

    I received a fine for a perceived “hate writing” last month and it drew the attention of national newspapers. It all started with an investigation last summer, followed by my written rebuttal and just as I was beginning to forget it, I heard I was going to be charged and was forced to attend a court session. Prior to this, I had to look for legal aid and when I visited the municipal counseling office, I was confronted by an emotional hipster who barely looked at my papers, except to express dievershittian contempt at me instead of a rational response. So I had to get a private lawyer. The prosecutor shot for a heavy fine and fabricated far fetched lies about hating “skin color” (like in the movies) and about me wanting to seek revenge against darkies. I was ultimately fined half of the demand, which is still plenty. I still have some PTS about it, although I’m proud of never backing down and trying to appease the multicult. Writing a long essay about the harm of multiculturalism (as opposed to whimpering about not being ‘racist’) probably did not work in my favour but at least they did not break me and much less the facts. They cannot help the facts and thus when we get mad about the state turning their biological weapons of multiculturalism on us, they get mad at us for not being good victims and try to crush us with the entire flab of the state.

    • Ron

      It is a pretty sad state of affairs when a man can be criminally charged for simply speaking his mind.

  • demonic liberal haters

    Sounds the real hater is this liberal pos no different than those in America or Europe. Liberal scum from hell and the same the world over being racists bigoted haters of true morality and decency enabling their beloved homo perversion sicko passion.

  • mrcan

    The actions of the feminists remind me of the biblical quote.”..if your children ask for a fish, do you give them a snake instead? …. Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion ?” Western white feminists have turned on their own sons….how insidious! That’s why the liberal-left hate the bible belt so much. they don’t feed their sons and daughters poision!

  • shattered

    Right because imprisoning everyone that shares an opinion different than yours is “liberal.” Of course it makes no sense. Liberals are fueled by totalitarianism not logic.

  • Achaean

    The historical evidence — list of great individuals in all the Arts and Sciences — shows in a decisive way that European Whites are the best equipped genetically to accomplish greatness. IQ is one measurement, but not the only one; there are other personality attributes which account for European superiority over Jews and East Asians, such as the assertive, daring, masculine, physical capacities to forge nation-states and empires. Jews have done well inside white nations, never outside, not even in Israel, which Whites gave to them out of compassion. Even in purely intellectual endeavors, Jews accomplish next to nil before the 1800s, and after that their achievements were mostly in career oriented fields such as medicine, law, and academics, and much less so in high level intellectual tasks. East Asians have dull, boring, conformist personalities, and on balance the record shows that Europeans accomplished 97% of all great things, whereas the Chinese (with a far higher population) accomplish only 1%.

  • Ben

    wow this thread quickly lost its way didnt it? The problem we are having here in Australia, and there are many, is with Islamist invaders. Thats what the article is about. They really are putrid scum and its very sad to see vast areas of Sydney given away to hostile aliens. Sydney is a beautiful city, except out west and now you know why. Its so sad to see all the foriegn people from the third world clogging the whole country up. They have nothing in common with us and offer nothing I wouldnt gladly live without.

  • anarchyst

    Add to that, the jewish “holocaust ™” that is considered sacrosanct and not open to honest discussion or debate. In fact, in many European countries, questioning the official jewish “holocaust ™” story will result in fines and imprisonment. Ask the noted WW2 historian David Irving who was forced to recant his brutally honest assesment of this historical event. In the USA, official government sanction is prohibited, but professional and personal ruin by the jews is the norm. Execution expert and engineer Fred Leuchter surrepitiously obtained samples from the so-called “gas chambers” at Auschwitz, had them tested for cyanide compounds and concluded that these “gas chambers” were in fact NOT and could not have been used for the purpose. . . the jews in the USA got the state of Massachusetts to charge Mr. Leuchter with the “crime” of “practicing engineering without a license”, a charge that had NEVER been used on anyone else. In addition, the jews were successful in getting various correctional instutions and states to rescind their contracts with him. He was financially and personally ruined for telling the TRUTH. The jews will stop at nothing to keep their “cash cow” going and have even resorted to tattooing their “concentration camp” numbers on their children and grandchildren. You see, this way, they can ALL be called jewish “holocaust ™” survivors. One-hundred years from now, there will STILL by jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”.

  • mike5586

    And yet they keep importing more of them. It was nice knowing you, Australia.