Christianity ‘Close to Extinction’ in Middle East

Edward Malnick, Telegraph (London), December 23, 2012

Christianity faces being wiped out of the “biblical heartlands” in the Middle East because of mounting persecution of worshippers, according to a new report.

The study warns that Christians suffer greater hostility across the world than any other religious group.

And it claims politicians have been “blind” to the extent of violence faced by Christians in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

The most common threat to Christians abroad is militant Islam, it says, claiming that oppression in Muslim countries is often ignored because of a fear that criticism will be seen as “racism”.

It warns that converts from Islam face being killed in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania and Iran and risk severe legal penalties in other countries across the Middle East.

The report, by the think tank Civitas, says: “It is generally accepted that many faith-based groups face discrimination or persecution to some degree.

“A far less widely grasped fact is that Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers.”

It cites estimates that 200 million Christians, or 10 per cent of Christians worldwide, are “socially disadvantaged, harassed or actively oppressed for their beliefs.”

“Exposing and combating the problem ought in my view to be political priorities across large areas of the world. That this is not the case tells us much about a questionable hierarchy of victimhood,” says the author, Rupert Shortt, a journalist and visiting fellow of Blackfriars Hall, Oxford.

He adds: “The blind spot displayed by governments and other influential players is causing them to squander a broader opportunity. Religious freedom is the canary in the mine for human rights generally.”

The report, entitled Christianophobia, highlights a fear among oppressive regimes that Christianity is a “Western creed” which can be used to undermine them.

State hostility towards Christianity is particularly rife in China, where more Christians are imprisoned than in any other country in the world, according to the report.

It quotes Ma Hucheng, an advisor to the Chinese government, who claimed in an article last year that the US has backed the growth of the Protestant Church in China as a vehicle for political dissidence.

“Western powers, with America at their head, deliberately export Christianity to China and carry out all kinds of illegal evangelistic activities,” he wrote in the China Social Sciences Press.

“Their basic aim is to use Christianity to change the character of the regime…in China and overturn it,” he added.

The “lion’s share” of persecution faced by Christians arises in countries where Islam is the dominant faith, the report says, quoting estimates that between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have left the region or been killed in the past century.

“There is now a serious risk that Christianity will disappear from its biblical heartlands,” it claims.

The report shows that “Muslim-majority” states make up 12 of the 20 countries judged to be “unfree” on the grounds of religious tolerance by Freedom House, the human rights think tank.

It catalogues hundreds of attacks on Christians by religious fanatics over recent years, focusing on seven countries: Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, Nigeria, India, Burma and China.

It claims George Bush’s use of the word “crusade” after the September 11 attacks on New York created the impression for Muslims in the Middle East of a “Christian assault on the Muslim world”.

“But however the motivation for violence is measured, the early twenty-first century has seen a steady rise in the strife endured by Christians,” the report says.

The 2003 invasion of Iraq left Iraqi Christians “more vulnerable than ever”, highlighted by the 2006 beheading of a kidnapped Orthodox priest, Fr Boulos Iskander, and the kidnapping of 17 further priests and two bishops between 2006 and 2010.

“In most cases, those responsible declared that they wanted all Christians to be expelled from the country,” the report says.

In Pakistan, the murder last year of Shahbaz Bhatti, the country’s Catholic minister for minorities, “vividly reflected” religious intolerance in Pakistan.

Shortly after his death it emerged that Mr Bhatti had recorded a video in which he declared: “I am living for my community and for suffering people and I will die to defend their rights.

“I prefer to die for my principles and for the justice of my community rather than to compromise. I want to share that I believe in Jesus Christ, who has given his own life for us.”

The report also warns that Christians in India have faced years of violence from Hindu extremists. In 2010 scores of attacks on Christians and church property were carried out in Karnataka, a state in south west India.

And while many people are aware of the oppression faced in Burma by Aung San Suu Kyi and other pro-democracy activists, targeted abuse of Christians in the country has been given little exposure, the report says.

In some areas of Burma the government has clamped down on Christian protesters by restricting the building of new churches.

“Openly professing Christians employed in government service find it virtually impossible to get promotion,” it adds.

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  • razorrare

    I’m confident Israel is gleeful about this report since it never mentioned them of their oppression against Christians in Israel as well as their neighbors,the palestinians, who are estimated to be 30% of their population.Islam hates Christians but judaists hates Christians even more.

    • SintiriNikos

      Agreed. They were left of the hook, as usual.

      • razorrare

        Not sure why this post was deleted but am reposting it here…
        I’m confident Israel is gleeful about this report since it never mentioned them of their oppression directed at Christians in Israel as well as their neighbors,the Palestinians,who are estimated to be 30% of their population.Islam hates Christians but Judaists hate Christians even more.

        • There are no Palestinians. There are Arabs who like to prretend they are Palestinians so they can take advantage of Jewish money.

      • razorrare

        Yes,and as usual they are very little busy bees deleting or removing my posts.

  • In Nigeria, the persecution of Christians exists in Northern Nigeria, that part of the country is Islamic. Christians dominate in Southern Nigeria, which are home to several megachurches that preach the prosperity gospel.

    • Christians dominate in Southern Nigeria, which are home to several megachurches that preach the prosperity gospel.

      That must explain all the e-mail scams coming from Nigeria. Mega-churches:dens of bloody hypocrites.

      • The__Bobster

        I always wondered what church the 419 scammers belonged to.

        The name 419 comes from “419 fraud”, another name for advance fee fraud, and itself derived from the relevant section of the Nigerian criminal code.

      • Exactly, The pastors of these churches are all multi-millionaires.

    • OlderWoman

      The prosperity gospel is false doctrine taught by money-grubbing ‘ministers’ like Fred Price at Ever Increasing Faith. He enriches himself and his family. Joyce Meyer is another one.

      • These folks in Nigeria are worse than Fred or Joyce. I once read that some of them demand cash before they will pray with anyone.

  • HamletsGhost

    Saddam Hussein and Bashar Assad protected Christians in their countries when in power. Now that Saddam is gone and Assad is going, thanks to the neo-cons in control in D.C., the last vestiges of Christianity being wiped out in the Middle East can be another in a long list of disasters entrained by our masterminds in power.

    As they say elsewhere, “Smooth move Ex-Lax”.

    • Now that Saddam is gone and Assad is going, thanks to the neo-cons in control in D.C., the last vestiges of Christianity being wiped out in the Middle East can be another in a long list of disasters entrained by our masterminds in power.

      And the chair-moisteners in Washington still wonder why thinking Americans so deeply loathe them.

    • OlderWoman

      The Copts in Egypt are being persecuted.

    • Can also be another in a long line of “successes” entrained by our neo-con masterminds in power.

    • ATBOTL

      And imbecile American Evangelicals are fanatically devoted to neocons.

    • razorrare

      There is no such thing as “Christian Zionists” nor “Judeo-Christianity.” You should be asking the question…Who in the West has been persecuting,exterminating our very symbols and teachings of Christianity…

      http://www.davidduke.com/?p=49

      An excerpt from article:

      The evil elements which opposed Jesus Christ and orchestrated his crucifixion were of course the Pharisees, the very body which created modern Judaism and its Talmud six centuries after Jesus Christ. Jesus rebuked them in the same way as should every true Christian leader of the 21st Century.

      …Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me.

      …Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it.

      …Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou are a Samaritan, and has a devil…(John 8:42-48)12

      May all of us, religious or not, have the strength and the courage to use the truth to defend our people from the fathers of the lie. There are a number of Christian ministers from many denominations who courageously stand up to the Jewish corruption of our Christian faith. They, and many Christian lay men dare to tell the truth about the Jews, face the same slanders and hatred that Christ faced. The New Testament repeatedly warns us of their power.

      Yet for fear of the Jews, no man spoke openly of him. (John 7:13)

      “Fear of the Jews” is just as real today as when Jesus Christ walked the earth. Their great power to intimidate, slander, imprison and even murder is as great today as it was in those ancient times. We must understand that it is not only the Palestinians who are occupied by Jewish power, it is America, too. Until we stand up to their power, there will be no freedom for the occupied West Bank of the Jordan River or the Jewish-occupied East Bank of the Potomac, the heart of the federal government. So this broadcast is dedicated and directed to my Christian listeners. May we not let “Fear of the Jews” prevent us from doing what’s right.

      Sincerely,

      David Duke
      those who conspire to delete or remove the words of this post so shall i delete or remove any possible future considerations for supporting financially this site and will work tirelessly for others to do the same.

  • David Ashton

    The western political class is not much interested in defending Christianity anywhere. It takes much the same attitude that the western ecclesiastical establishment used to take towards communist persecution of Christianity and KGB infiltration of its international institutions.

  • PesachPatriot

    Israel was left off the hook because its one of the only places in the near east a christian can openly wear a crucifix or display a christmas tree without meeting brutal shari’a law…The christian population of the holy land started looking for greener pastures when the british were still in charge….I’d wager that most christians would rather walk through bnei barak instead of baghdad…I still remember the 2003 hostage incident at the church of the nativity in bethlehem…a bunch of muslim militants took priests hostage and barricaded themselves in the church…Israel surrounded the building instead of storming it and damaging the church…the religion of peace defecated in the church…yeah, there are a few medieval fanatics in black hats who think of christianity as paganism, but most Israelis, and i have known plenty, don’t think ill of christians at all, it is a pretty important part of Israel’s tourism industry….I have been inside the church of the holy sepulcher and the church of the nativity and thought they were beautiful.

    • Sue

      ATTACKS AGAINST CHRISTIANS & THEIR HOLY SITES
      BY ISRAELI SETTLERS & EXTREMISTS
      The
      number of violent attacks by Jewish settlers against Palestinians,
      including Christians, and their property has risen by about 150% each
      year since 2008, with 154 attacks in the first half of 2012, according to the Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights.

      DISCRIMINATION BASED ON RELIGION

      Christian
      Palestinians who are citizens of Israel suffer from the same widespread
      official and unofficial discrimination that other non-Jews do, in
      everything from land ownership and housing to employment and family
      reunification rights.

      DENIAL OF FREEDOM OF WORSHIP

      Although
      Israeli officials frequently claim that Palestinian Christians and
      Muslims have free access to their holy sites in occupied East Jerusalem
      and other areas under Israeli control, in reality Israeli restrictions
      make it difficult or impossible for most Palestinians in the occupied
      territories to worship freely. http://imeu.net/news/article0023369.shtml

      DISHONOURING Christian religious symbols is
      an old religious duty in Judaism. Spitting on the cross, and especially on the Crucifix,
      and spitting when a Jew passes a church, have been obligatory from around A. D. 200 for
      pious Jews. In the past, when the danger of anti-Semitic hostility was a real one, the
      pious Jews were commanded by their rabbis either to spit so that the reason for doing so
      would be unknown, or to spit onto their chests, not actually on the cross or openly before
      the church. by Professor
      Israel Shahakhttp://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/hatred.html

      • PesachPatriot

        ah, mr. shahak…he’s an old one but a good one…do you really think the same rich american jews in LA or NY who drive on saturdays and order unkosher food in fancy restaurants really obey and practice things written down that long ago? I’ve walked in front of plenty of churches in my life and never hocked a loogie…My head doesn’t start spinning when I hear christmas music in the mall. I’m pretty sure these same accusations were used against the very christian knights templar by some pope in the 1300’s as an excuse to burn their leader…jacques de molay was his name I think….

        Israel’s government can be fairly criticized for many things, but destroying the churches under their jurisdiction isn’t one of them.

        • The__Bobster

          Sure, keep on denying it, but the world can easily discover the truth about Israel. Rich jews in LA and NYC find more devious ways to destroy Christian traditions.

          http://www.vdare.com/posts/war-on-christmas-in-israel

          Publicly visible Christmas tree could “injure the souls of Jews”

          When the Israeli occupation municipality in Jerusalem this year put up a small Christmas tree near the Jaffa Gate, there were strong protests from rabbis. Occupation municipality city council member Rabbi Shmuel Yitzhaki told settler news website Arutz 7 that the display was a “desecration” and a “grave offense against the Jewish people” and that it was “inconceivable” that a Christmas tree should be allowed in a “public place” where it might be seen by Jews on their way to pray at the Western Wall in eastern occupied Jerusalem.

          • PesachPatriot

            This rabbi needs to get out and about more…I’ve walked by lots of christmas trees every year…I even like driving around looking at other peoples lights…my soul was never injured by one…I may have gotten a splinter once or twice when helping friends remove them after the new year but thats it.

            We don’t have any mystical powers to “destroy christian traditions”…if we did we’re doing a piss poor job of it. The entire western world has become less religious over the last 100 years or so. Also, red skull was always one of my favorite comic book bad guys.

          • Sue

            Wonder why that is? Couldn’t be what the media, Hollywood, tv, and papers teach for the past 70 years or so, could it?

          • whitepony87

            The Jews own the media, the media attacks our culture, family unit, corrupts our youth, and is now actively attacking our second amendment rights. That doesn’t raise some red flags with most of you? Go to Israel and see if they tolerate shows like “Teen Mom” and see how they would respond to an American going to Israel and demanding they hand over their firearms. Go see for yourself how Israelis would react to being told they must accept massive waves of third world immigrants. None of these things would go over well there. But what is bad for them is good for us? No. “God’s chosen people” wouldn’t behave the way these people do.

          • razorrare

            Well stated…tamudic jews are not God’s Chosen people…nor any people who reject Christ…under the New Covenant Jesus clearly states in the N.T. God’s chosen people are those who accept Christ,not those who have rejected him—Judaists.

        • OlderWoman

          Jacques de Molay…now that is a dirty one. What an evil group that was.

          • PesachPatriot

            I was always interested in the Templars as a kid…They have become such mythic figures that it is very hard to separate fact from fiction. I don’t know if they could really be called “evil” by the standards of their day, but if you are interested a very good book I read about them was called Dungeon, FIre and Sword…I wish i could remember the author’s name

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            I have the book. The author is John Robinson, also the author of “Born in Blood,” which makes a good historic case for the Freemasons as the continuation of the Templar underground. Another good book on the Templars is The Knights Templar, by Stephen Howarth.

            If one reads these well documented, scholarly histories it becomes clear that the KT were a scapegoat for a conspiracy by the French King, Phillipe dit le bel. He was heavily in debt to the Templars (they were the premier bankers in Europe at the time). Phillipe first moved the Holy See to Avingnon, France and then placed his own man in as pope. In this way, he was able to have the KT condemned and most if not all of them in France arrested on the morning of Friday, October 13, 1307. This is where the tradition of the unlucky days comes from. If one reads, Born in Blood, it becomes very obvious how thoroughly Templar and FM has been in our culture.

            Jacques de Molay and the KT Preceptor of Normandy, Geoffrey de Charney were arrested together during the initial raid. They were tortured into confessions of the most ridiculous sorts, but including that they spit and trampled on the cross. They later recanted, were tortured again and then burned (really slow roasted) at the stake in a very famous event. At the stake, the elderly de Molay made a speech, declaring his and his orders innocence and condemning both the King and Pope to meet with him before the throne of God ere the year ran out. Both the King and the Pope were dead before a year was up.

            So Jacques de Molay has been held a martyr in FM and to many others. The other interesting thing about this is found in another book recently published (2001). It is titled, The Second Messiah. It goes through the history of the capture and torture of Jacques de Molay and other relevant information to show the initiation shroud used by the Templars was used to cover de Molay after his first torture when his multilated body was released to the marshall’s brother, Jean de Charney and the family convalesced both. The authors showed by reproduction, that the GM had been set upon a reclining couch, typical of the day, face up and covered with an initiation shroud. They showed for example the where the hands met, so low on the lap, could only be done if the trunk was slightly bent. That shroud showed up 60 years later at a church in the village of Lirey, after being donated by the family de Charney. This became the controversial “Shroud of Turin.” Both carbon dating and the other correlating facts show that the artifact is no older than 13th,14th century. Of note is that the figure on the shroud describes a European in both stature and facial structure. Since Jacques de Molay’s appearance is known and we also now have shown through dna studies that a typical middle-easterner in Jesus’ time would have been short, dark haired and bearded with decidedly non-European features further shows that the famous image on the shroud is none other than Jacques de Molay’s.

        • Sue

          There are less Christians in the holy land now under Israeli control then ever before with or without your head spinning. What would you consider fair criticism?

          • PesachPatriot

            yes it is fair criticism. I have pretty thick skin. The majority of the christian population under israeli sovereignty lives in just a few towns…east jerusalem, bethlehem, and nazareth…very solidly muslim areas now for at least the last 30 years. There are issues for christians in the holy land, but nothing compared to what goes on in the muslim countries…I have seen most of the important christian sites in Israel…my favorite is the natural beauty of mt. megiddo….israel’s government tries to keep the sites safe and open for visitors as much as possible given the chaotic situation in that part of the world…I would take UN statistics about their favorite punching bag with a grain of salt.

          • StillModerated

            The IDF bulldozes the houses of Arab Christians in the West Bank.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        Some scholarly references? But some of this early dishonoring of Christianity by Jews might be because Christian attacks Jews in places like Alexandria first. Read, Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Vol 3, pages 137-169 and Vol 5, pages 18 for the specifics on the murder of Hypatia and the other activities of “St. Cyril” in the pre and post pages. Then there was the forged scriptures blaming the crucifixion on them. Expulsion from Israel, expulsion from European cities by Christians, 14th century accusaions of well poisoning by a Church impotent against the Plague, etc.,,,No reason for Jews to be bitter, eh?

        • David Ashton

          Ancient Jewish sources refer to Jesus being hanged by Jews on the eve of the Passover.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            If you were anywhere near to a scholar, you would know that when a source is given, the name and location of that source is required to give it any validity as it is needed for review and possible confirmation.

            There is only one “ancient Jewish source” from the first century and that is Josephus. Nowhere in Josephus does it say that “Jesus Christ” was “hanged” by Jews at any time, let alone on the eve of Passover. There are 14 characters in the histories of Josephus who bear the name “Jesus.” Some where leaders that were executed. In Jewish law, the condemned were stoned, not “hanged” and certainly not crucified. All 13 other Jesus’ are accounted for if they were put to death, and I did not review every instance of method, so they could have been “hanged,” as we know that such a method was known.

            There is only one witness to Jesus Christ in Josephus, and scholars have shown through very simple forensic methods such as hand writing, phraseology, and the existence of earlier copies that don’t contain the passage, that the “witness” to Jesus was forged; added to later copies to make it appear as if Josephus knew of and bore witness to the Jesus of the New Testament.

      • OlderWoman

        I wouldn’t believe anything the U.N. posts. Their ‘human rights’ isn’t human at all. They have one agenda. To persecute Israel and Christians to implement their New World Odor one-world religion. I’d imagine Maitreya is their god. U.N. are thugs.

        • StillModerated

          It’s New World Ordure!

    • OlderWoman

      Hasidim harrass Christians in Israel streets. There was a youtube video of this. But, it’s unavailable or it has been renamed and I can’t post it’s link.

      • PesachPatriot

        I think I’ve seen that one…those guys are class A jerkwads…some of their friends in the states are not much better. When I was a kid in NY my dad would sometimes take me to their neighborhood to buy passover stuff….they would give us dirty looks simply because we were dressed in regular american clothes and not black hats and coats…There is no youtube video of the thousands of american, canadian and european christians enjoying their visits to holy places and having a good time because that would be boring and wouldn’t get many hits

      • shmo123

        From what I’ve read and seen on video, the Hasidim don’t like anyone coming into their neighborhoods in Israel who isn’t one of them. You can argue whether that’s right or fair all day, but that seems to be the way it is. If you don’t believe me, go to Williamsburg in Brooklyn sometime and see what kind of reception you get.

        • PesachPatriot

          This is a good point…the ultra-orthodox neighborhood in jerusalem, mea shea’rim, is riddled with internal rivalries…to most non-jews, and even the more secular americans and israelis, the hasidic groups are one large black mass of beards and glasses…there are dozens of small groups clustered around charismatic rabbis who are constantly excommunicating and excoriating each other….they lock themselves in to their neighborhoods in america, canada, uk or israel to hide from the modern world and basically try to ignore the world and pretend its 1910 in warsaw or krakow

          • shmo123

            Thank you Pesach for clarifying my point. I noticed that my posting got a thumbs down, which normally would elicit no response from me, but I wanted to elaborate.
            Yes, the Hasidim do close themselves off from the world. That is their prerogative. The vast majority of people would not choose to live such lives, but as a culture based on religion, I actually do admire a people who are so dedicated to their faith. I wish there were more of that in me. A more important question regarding them would be (and you could ask this of any religious based group that tends to isolate themselves): Are they good citizens? I’ll base it on three criteria: Being law abiding, paying taxes, volunteering, or serving in the military.
            I’m sure most are law abiding. At any given time, I doubt you’d find many Hasids in any NYC lock-up.
            Individually, nearly all of us pay taxes in some form. But the Hasids have huge families–10-12 kids is not uncommon– and while I don’t have figures, I understand they have no compunction about using social welfare benefits, to the extent they can. I doubt studying the Torah all day pays very well, so how they manage is a mystery to me. Of course, there are groceries, dry-cleaners, etc. like any neighborhood, but not sure of the employment rate. Their schools are all private, religious institutions, so not much tax money there. Added up, I would guess they’re probably a net drain on the system.
            I know that in their neighborhoods they have crime-watch groups etc. but it doesn’t extend beyond their borders. As for the military, I somehow doubt it. I don’t know what Israel does, but I don’t think you’ll find a Private first class Menachem Schneerson in the US army. I just don’t know how that works.

          • PesachPatriot

            Some good points in your post. Most of the orthodox in america and canada have about 5-6 kids because its far more expensive here than in Israel. You know the thing about rising incomes and education levels. Kosher food and jewish schools are not cheap. Some definitely abuse the welfare system and are looked on with disdain for it by most of the more assimilated american jewish community. Others are more honorable where wealthy group members help support the poorer ones. Gentile politicians court them non-stop because they will vote as a block for whoever their rabbi tells them to vote for, the more assimilated among us tend to vote their own independent views.

            The way the men study Torah all day is by having the wives work in the real world. Other men work in the diamond district, in the computerized world of finace, selling holy books and religious objects or as doctors and dentists. There are definitely some people of jewish descent in the US military, but no probably not many hasids…In Israel some of the more pro-state groups like Chabad send their men to front line duty in the west bank and gaza, or judea and samaria if you prefer the non PC biblical terms. I hope this answers some of your questions

  • BAW

    Maybe Malcolm X was right when he said that Christianity is a religion for white people.

    • Dude

      Christianity is degenerate, like everything produced by the jews.

      • So CAL Snowman

        In a way you are right, all of the Chirstian Apostles and such were JEWS. Christianity it seems is no more than Jew worship.

        • OlderWoman

          They were converted Jews to the Christian faith. It is NOT ‘Jew worship’. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

      • JohnEngelman

        Hey Dude, here is somebody you should like:

        “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew.”

        – Adolf Hitler, from “Hitler’s Table Talk”

        • OlderWoman

          Hitler was Catholic but he turned away from his Catholic upbringing. However, he did have some Catholic support from Pius XII.

          • JohnEngelman

            Adolf Hitler was raised as a Roman Catholic, but he had lost his religious faith by the time he moved to Vienna as a young man before the First World War. Nevertheless, unlike Vladimir Lenin, he realized that to be openly hostile to Christianity would needlessly alienate those who might otherwise support him.

            “Hitler’s Table Talk” was written by a secretary who with Adolf Hitlers permission recorded remarks Hitler made in private conversations. The book is full of expressions of contempt for Christianity by Adolf Hitler.

            Pope Pius XII seems to have thought that in the conflict between Communism and Nazism Nazism was the lesser of two evils. Many conservatives at the time thought that way. In her book “A Choice Not an Echo,” which supported the candidacy of Barry Goldwater in 1964, Phyllis Schlafly makes it fairly clear that she regretted America’s entry into World War II, although she supported the war effort after the U.S. declared war on the Axis.

          • shattered

            Basically he was a BS’r like Obama. Both populations lap it up.

          • David Ashton

            From the RC viewpoint both were evils but Communism correctly seen pre-WW2 as worse in terms of the murder and incarceration of priests, church closures, &c. The “Jewish” factor in the militant anti-religious campaigns in Russia, Spain and Hungary also influenced RC opinion. During the war the Nazis persecuted Polish Catholics and then re-opened Churches in Ukraine and Russia!

        • Dude

          You know me so well.

          • JohnEngelman

            I think Adolf Hitler was the most evil man who ever lived. I wish he had died of a childhood disease. What do you think of him?

          • Sherman_McCoy

            I’m torn. Surely he’s right up there with Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot (sic?) and others. He certainly did whites no favors.

          • JohnEngelman

            Stalin and Mao took backward countries and turned them into industrial giants. They did their share of helping us win the Second World War. Their methods were cruel. One can argue that their achievements could have been achieved with less human cost. One cannot doubt their achievements.

            Hitler started an unprovoked war that devastated Europe. He achieved nothing.

          • JohnEngelman

            Stalin and Mao took backward countries and turned them into industrial giants. They did their share of helping us win the Second World War. Their methods were cruel. One can argue that their achievements could have been achieved with less human cost. One cannot doubt their achievements.

            Hitler started an unprovoked war that devastated Europe. He achieved nothing.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            As the husband of a half-Ukrainian whose family suffered unspeakable horrors under Stalin’s Holodymyr, I might have a little different perspective.

          • JohnEngelman

            I respect your perspective. I wish the Russian Revolution had never happened. Even under the Czar Russia had a Duma and was developing a democratic government.

          • anonymous

            The Russians didn’t help us win WW II. We helped them. They did most of the hard fighting (the war on the eastern front was one of the largest military confrontations in history) and they’re the ones who really defeated Germany (with the financial and, later, military assistance of the U.S.). And Hitler did not “start an unprovoked war.” This is a complete distortion of history. As for Stalin and Mao, you make it sound like the deaths they caused were just the regrettable byproducts of industrialization policies that could have been handled better. They were psychopathic monsters who killed tens of millions with their purges, collectivization programs and insane ideology.

          • David Ashton

            Not many are likely to challenge your omniscient cliche about Hitler’s outstanding “evil”, nor that the WW2 outcome was a disaster for Germany. But your moral criteria need some factual interrogations, even if we leave aside the Chinese Communist and Imperial Japanese representatives of a race you consider superior to (Gentile) whites.

            1. Before the war Soviet political prisoners vastly outnumbered Nazi prisoners.
            2. Whereas Hitler put millions back to work, Stalin killed millions by famine.
            3. Even between 1930 and 1939 the Soviet Union was greatly assisted by technological transfer and plans from western capitalists, while Germany faced an organized international boycott of exports.
            4. Hitler invaded Poland, and so did Stalin, who also invaded Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Romania.
            5.Total Soviet territorial annexations from the war exceeded 690,000 sq.km. (many times the size of Danzig).
            6. Lenin, the Comintern and Stalin never ruled out an aggressive attack on capitalist countries to “extend socialism” when time was ripe, and there is some evidence that Stalin was preparing to attack Germany.

            All mass-murder is evil, whatever its scale. Attempts at numerical comparisons between Hitler and Stalin (e.g. Richard Overy, Timothy Snyder, Rudy Rummel, &c) are anyhow problematic. Personally I think camp deaths in each case have been exaggerated; for example, Rummel should subtract approximately 3 million from both his Nazi total (Kogon) and also his Soviet total (Kosyk).

            Prof. Steven Rosefielde examined the statistics carefully in “Red Holocaust” (NY Routledge, 2010). He concludes that Stalin displaces Hitler as the greater killer, and that Soviet mass-murders were in vain because “the communist economy was doomed to fail”.

          • JohnEngelman

            I will try to deal with each of your points.

            1. Conceded

            2. The Great Depression hardly effected the Soviet Union at all. This was one of the reasons that made many liberals and radicals in the West to idealize the Soviet Union. Keep in mind that in the United States people did not join the American Communist Party because they liked slave labor camps purges, and starvation in the Soviet Union. They joined because they did not like mass unemployment, poverty, and racial discrimination in the United States.

            3. I would need to do some research on this one. I think a number of industrialists in the West, including Henry Ford sympathized with Hitler and gave him financial and technical assistance.

            4. At the negotiations at Munich the Soviet Union said that it would fight Germany to defend the independence of Czechoslovakia, but that it would not fight Germany alone. When Great Britain and France capitulated to German demands Stalin thought they were trying to encourage Hitler to invade the Soviet Union, so he did what he felt was necessary to give the USSR somewhat of a buffer zone.

            5. If you only consider Danzig, this is certainly true, but what about Australia and the Sudetenland? Still you are probably right, so I will concede your point.

            6. Vladimir Lenin’s takeover of Russia at the end of the First World War violated conventional Marxist theory. Karl Marx had held that Communist revolutions would first take place in the most developed capitalist countries, although as suffrage was extended to factory workers he came to think that violent revolutions might not be necessary.

            Lenin justified his takeover as the “spark” that would ignite Communist revolutions elsewhere in Europe and the United States. There were uprisings in Germany, and a brief Communist takeover in Hungary, but these were put down.

            When Joseph Stalin took over after the death of Lenin he said that the Soviet Communist Party would create “socialism within one country.” From then on Soviet military planning was largely defensive.

            During the Russian Civil War, that happened between 1917 and 1922 a number of capitalist countries including the United States did intervene, and occupied parts of Russian country, so the Soviets had reason to fear Western military aggression, and not only from Germany.

          • David Ashton

            While I support the “white west” I am sufficiently detached to see that historically international relations are “interactive” both in analysis and reactions; this applies to Anglo-German relations, east-west relations, Gentile-Jew relations, Islam-Zionism relations, etc. So up to a point I understand Stalin’s buffer-state precautions.

            Details of the International Boycott of German Goods and Services are difficult to gather together from a variety of now obscure sources, but evidence of western “aid” to the USSR can easily be found in the late Dr Antony C. Sutton’s “Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development 1917…1945”.

            Austria and Sudetenland were German like Danzig and mostly pro-Nazi.

            Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Gramsci all “adapted” Marxism. In March 1850 Marx urged the organization of an “armed proletariat” and in January 1879 said no great movement had ever been inaugurated without bloodshed.

            Lenin said the victory of socialism was possible in a few or even in one single capitalist country and the victorious proletariat would “confront the rest of the capitalist world, raise revolts…and if necessary come out even with armed force against the exploiting classes and their states”. Stalin endorsed this.

            Of course, people joined the communist parties for utopian reasons, but were very susceptible to Soviet propaganda and easily encouraged to follow its violence dimension.

          • JohnEngelman

            I think we can agree that if Lenin and Hitler had died of childhood diseases the world would be a better place.

          • David Ashton

            Or taken up painting (see earlier posts)?

          • JohnEngelman

            Adolf Hitler was a fairly decent painter.

            http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Adolf+Hitler%22+%2B+painting&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=nPz_UOrpAYeH0QGDvIGICg&ved=0CD0QsAQ&biw=597&bih=518

            If he had been given some encouragement the twentieth century would have been nicer. Before he began to hate the Jews a Jewish congregation should have commissioned him to design their new synagogue and paint scenes from the Old Testament for it.

          • PesachPatriot

            This is surely one of the biggest ironies of history. Hitler’s landscape paintings were quite beautiful, but he was rejected from art school because he couldn’t paint people very well….orthodox austrian jews back then are very different from most modern american jewish congregations today…they didn’t approve of much art or stained glass windows in synagogues back then. Most of the worship places in central and eastern europe back then were small, windowless prayer rooms that could barely hold 30 people…the grand synagogues were the exception, not the rule.

          • David Ashton

            Did synagogues normally have scenes from the Torah which forbids graven images? Just wondering. “Semitism destoyed art” (Disraeli).

          • JohnEngelman

            That’s a good question. Synagogues may be without paintings.

            Hitler obviously had talent as a painter. He should have been encouraged. In the United States he certainly could have been a commercial artist, painting advertisements and stuff like that.

          • David Ashton

            Norman Spinrad wrote a novel called “Iron Dream”, in which Hitler goes to America and writes commercial stuff which turns his “racist fantasies” into vivid sci-fi.

          • JohnEngelman

            Ann Frank’s father was a German lieutenant on the Western Front during World War I. I am confident he was a brave and just junior officer. If he had been Hitler’s platoon leader, and especially if he had saved Hitler’s life during a battle, he could have changed the course of history.

            Hitler painted some of his works during the War. Perhaps Lt . Frank could have encouraged him, and helped him get started professionally.

            Alas…

          • David Ashton

            A good short story there, perhaps?

          • Dude

            He fought heroically against genocide, because he knew the German people to be worthy of life.

          • JohnEngelman

            Hitler wasn’t very effective, was he? As a result of the war he started 6,750,000 to 8,800,000 Germans were killed. This was 8.0 to 10.5 percent of the German population.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Third_Reich

          • Tom in MI

            I wish that he had never been born.

  • Anon

    Muslims kill fellow Muslims at a higher rate than Muslims kill non-Muslims. The race to see who is the most put-down is contested. The race to see who puts down the most is not.

    • JohnEngelman

      Whenever Muslims are fighting other Muslims we should stay out of the way and let it happen.

  • Can’t Southern White Christian Zionists at least agree that mass Muslim immigration in to the USA, the West is not a godd idea seeing as the Muslims are persecuting, exterminating Christians in the Middle East?

    • curri

      No, because their Beltway neocon bosses-who do all their thinking for them-say that muslim immigration is fine.

    • Xerxes22

      The Christians in the mideast are the wrong type of Christians so these Fundamentalist Christian Zionists don’t care one iota about them.

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      Gee. I love these comments that single Southerners out as being brainwashed as if the rest of the country isn’t even worse. I don’t know many Southerners who are okay with Muslim immigration. How do New Englanders view this topic?

    • razorrare

      There is no such thing as “Christian Zionists” nor “Judeo-Christianity.” You should be asking the question…Who in the West has been persecuting,exterminating our very symbols and teachings of Christianity…

      http://www.davidduke.com/?p=498

      An excerpt from article:

      The evil elements which opposed Jesus Christ and orchestrated his crucifixion were of course the Pharisees, the very body which created modern Judaism and its Talmud six centuries after Jesus Christ. Jesus rebuked them in the same way as should every true Christian leader of the 21st Century.

      …Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me.

      …Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it.

      …Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou are a Samaritan, and has a devil…(John 8:42-48)12

      May all of us, religious or not, have the strength and the courage to use the truth to defend our people from the fathers of the lie. There are a number of Christian ministers from many denominations who courageously stand up to the Jewish corruption of our Christian faith. They, and many Christian lay men dare to tell the truth about the Jews, face the same slanders and hatred that Christ faced. The New Testament repeatedly warns us of their power.

      Yet for fear of the Jews, no man spoke openly of him. (John 7:13)

      “Fear of the Jews” is just as real today as when Jesus Christ walked the earth. Their great power to intimidate, slander, imprison and even murder is as great today as it was in those ancient times. We must understand that it is not only the Palestinians who are occupied by Jewish power, it is America, too. Until we stand up to their power, there will be no freedom for the occupied West Bank of the Jordan River or the Jewish-occupied East Bank of the Potomac, the heart of the federal government. So this broadcast is dedicated and directed to my Christian listeners. May we not let “Fear of the Jews” prevent us from doing what’s right.

      Sincerely,

      David Duke

      • There is simply no support for pro White groups who push open, anti Jewish scapegoating, Jew hatred. David Duke was very effective in the 1990s when he was pro White, opposed clear Black crime problems, mass non White immigration and he finessed the Jewish issue, went with a program that worked, identifying various Leftist White Groups that were hostile to the legitimate rights and survival of White Americans. Sure there are powerful Jewish people and Jewish groups that hate White Americans, sadly American Jews voted 80 percent plus for Obama, BRA, but so did White homosexuals.

        Open anti Semitic Jew hating is wrong and counter productive because it just doesn’t sell to White Americans. Go with what works and finesse the Jewish issue, let Jews in our side battle the anti White Jews.

        • razorrare

          No one is stopping jews from accepting Christ–anyone who accepts Christ is God’s Chosen people…one who accepts that truth,please explain to others here how that is “anti-semitic jew hating”…according to your definition of an anti-semitic jew hater Christ himself is a anti-semitic jew hater…for those jews who accept Christ or simply work for “our White interest” i say Bravo!! and i am their biggest Fan!!

        • razorrare

          Deleting or removing my reply to your slanderous accusation that anyone who may speak a truth or fact concerning Jews is an anti-semitic jew hater exactly proves my previous reply to you was 100% correct…
          According to your bias & hate-filled view even Christ himself is a anti-semitic jew hater.
          I have never met an anti-semite…Perhaps Jared Taylor can do a video on that one as well…Being called a racist is not near as damaging as being called an Anti-Semite!!!
          Jews are welcome to accept Christ and i will cheer them when they defend “White interests.”….unlike hypocrites & liars that deleted or removed my reply to you….I reposted the article and link whom you replied to with this deceptive,hate filled response complete with name-calling…now i suggest you look it up and repaste your reply to it.
          When Christianity dies so does Western Culture…

        • David Ashton

          There is a lot of common-sense in this.
          The question as to why many Jews have supported and still support multicultural immigration is complex, and fools rush in where Engelmen fear to tread. Albert Landemann’s “Esau’s Tears” is a balanced Jewish view of “antisemitism” which “both sides” would do well to study.

          • PesachPatriot

            Who is Albert Landemann? I have never heard of him. I like the name of the essay, when I was in hebrew school learning the story of jacob and esau I always had a problem with it. My own personal views on immigration is that controlled,legal immigration like the kind that existed between 1880-1930 during the ellis island period is ok, but unrestrained gatecrashing of the southern border is ok. Every prospective US immigrant should be required to speak at least some english before arrival and be able to prove a minimum amount of assets and a job to support themselves. All immigration should be halted for the next 30 years or so until america has a chance to sort out its problems. We can’t clean up a mess if people are constantly flooding in.

          • PesachPatriot

            sorry meant not ok to gatecrash the southern border

          • David Ashton

            Agree about an immigration moratorium, for the UK as well as US.

            Albert S. Landemann is Professor of History, California University, who wrote a book on Dreyfus, Beilis and Frank. The reference is to “Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews” (Cambridge University Press, 1997). Jacob symbolizes the sensitive, wily and successful Jew; Esau the brutal, coarse and disadvantaged Gentile .

  • JohnEngelman

    According to a Pew Research survey released: December 2, 2010 84 percent of Muslims in Egypt, 86 percent of Muslims in Jordan, and 76 percent of Muslims in Pakistan favor the death penalty for anyone leaving the Muslim faith.

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

    • shattered

      I heard Democrats had the same view.

      • JohnEngelman

        You ought to change your radio station then.

        • shattered

          Maybe you ought to change yours.

      • Dude

        The Democrat view is that you’re not even allowed to mention such facts.

        • shattered

          That’s one of the purposes of the secret UN treaties. Democrats believe that expressing an opinion different that their own is hateful. They are so “liberal.”

  • Guest

    The Muslims have been going at the Christians like pitbulls set loose on lambs.

  • Guest

    Obama secretly celebrates.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    Every regular poster knows that I don’t care for any religion as such, but what Islam is doing in the Middle East is destroying cultures and peoples who happen to be Christian. Just as in Kosovo, where I had a close up view of the destruction of world heritage sites of Orthodox Churches, I am against this and condemn Islam for being what Christianity was for so long doing in Europe. These Middle Eastern Religions are so horribly intolerant of anything but themselves and the entire world has to suffer because of it.

    • PesachPatriot

      I have to agree with you here…i think religion is OK if it is a private thing that you engage in and if it makes you a better person. When it causes you to infringe on another persons liberties it becomes problematic. This is why I respect the founders for putting freedom of and from religion in the Constitution…america may have its share of religious fanatics of all stripes, but compared to the trouble religion has caused in the old world america has been very lucky. Our last episode of religion gone crazy occurred in 1692 in salem massachusetts. Religion seems to go crazy on a weekly basis in europe and the near east these days.

  • Tom in MI

    This sob story is another attempt to justify bringing in more third world immigrants.

    • razorrare

      Not to worry…the UN chooses what refugees get to come to America from the middle east suffering “persecution” and they are not Christians.Muslims arent being persecuted in those warring regions of the middle east but Christians are,yet they are the ones who are being denied approval for refugee status by the UN who are choosing Muslims who are not being persecuted in those warring regions and non-warring regions of the middle east to emigrate here to America.Its outrageous.

    • I wouldn’t classify Lebanese and Syrian Christians as third world. It would be like classifying the upper class of Mexico as third world.

  • bigone4u

    From what I read in the Daily Mail there is harassment of Christians by Muslims in London and in Paris. Next stop USA.

  • IKantunderstand

    You know, I was going to say: I’m shocked! …(the oft quoted line from “Casablanca”, right up there with Claude Raines’ “Round up the usual suspects” line). This is part of our culture. I know, I know, I’m off the subject. But, these new people who have immigrated to OUR country, don’t get this.These people are not Americans, and they never will be. The Blacks in this country, also, don’t get these references. Blacks in this country, on the whole, have NEVER assimilated. And they have been here how long? I used to think that they did not want to fit in. Now, I think they are not able to fit in. If a race which has been in this country for two hundred plus years, is still not able to fit in, why would we ever think that other ethnics, races, people with different cultural heritages and religions will fit in? They won’t. If we care about our country, we must fight any sort of immigration amnesty. We must also declare, loud and often, NO MORE IMMIGRATION!

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Why do people in this movement always have to bring up Jews behaving badly for every story about Muslims? It is as if a lot of you are Muslim apologists. I don’t really have a dog in this argument either way, as I realize Jews have caused plenty of problems, but why do they have to be brought up as an antecdote on every story about Muslims?

    • JohnEngelman

      It is unfortunately the case that American Renaissance attracts some posters who dislike Jews. These use every excuse they can get to condemn Jews. Morally there is no difference between Jews and white Gentiles. The only difference is that the Jews tend to have quite a bit more intelligence and everything that goes with intelligence, such as education, prosperity, and power.

      • David Ashton

        No, there is an ethnic difference. (Otherwise Zionism would not exist.) This has been the core problem over the centuries, but there is no reason why it should end with persecution either of “us” or of “them”. The political use of that “power” is what matters, not the morality or otherwise in its acquisition.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      75% of Jews self-identfy as Liberals. Of the remaining “conservatives” most are neo-cons, who never met a Middle Eastern war they didn’t like. For whatever reason. Jews are overrepresented in the groups that have undermined white society, and morality. There is a small percentage of Jews that identity as white racial realists, and because they are so rare and valuable, I wish we could get more Jews to see the truth and come over to our side. It is a sad fact that the majority of the Ashkenazim work against white interests, and use their considerable intellectual gifts to our disadvantage.

      I don’t subscribe to the idea of a global Jewish conspiracy, but I do believe that many are more inclined to take care of their own, and to act in what they believe to be their own best interests, as documented by Kevin McDonald.

      • David Ashton

        There is much common-sense in this too. The trick is to bring “their own best interests” (e.g. stopping Muslim immigration) into line with “ours” rather than to recreate a fear of an indiscriminate racial hostility of the Nazi kind.

        • Sherman_McCoy

          I think one of the problems is that the globalist elitists couldn’t care less about what happen to the everyday Jewish fellow who has his house firebombed by the muslims. I’d guess they are more busy with their bailouts and the destruction of the various fiat currencies and national borders.

          • PesachPatriot

            This is probably the best post in the thread…I know that rothschild, soros, bernanke, geithner, feinstein, blankfein and the other elites of my kind don’t give a rats behind about me, my wife, my kids or my extended family either here or in Israel. They are desperate to keep the fiat party going just a little bit longer….when the dollar collapses and the riots start they will be long gone on private jets. I feel badly for the religious jews in NYC who will probably be beaten to death in the streets by angry mobs when the brown matter makes contact with the rotary device. I am fond of saying there is no quicker way to spread jew hatred than jewish names on a failing currency.

          • Which might explain why Jack Lew has such a deliberately ugly slinky signature.

          • PesachPatriot

            who is Jack Lew? I was thinking of turbo-tax timmy g’s signature on the 2009 bailout bills circulating around the planet…spreading FTD’s financially transmitted diseases…

    • MartelC

      It’s increasingly difficult to ignore where anti-Christian sentiment comes from. Israel papers (and many Israelies i have met, are for more forthright and honest about it. Maybe its about time we stop ignoring the problem?

      http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099

      Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
      A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem’s Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window.

      • PesachPatriot

        I read haaretz every now and then…its the big liberal paper there…i like the jerusalem post better. An elderly person should know better than to spit on a priest. This is reprehensible, disgusting behavior and I condemn it completely. Aside from the fact that it is flat out wrong to spit on people, this is not a good way to win friends and influence people. The greeks also did a lot to help rescue their jewish countrymen during WWII…A lot of these religious fanatics know every letter of biblical law, but completely miss the spirit of it.

        • David Ashton

          Your last sentence echoes the Jesus of the Synoptic Gospels.

          • PesachPatriot

            I always did enjoy reading the philosophical writings of that long haired jewish trouble maker…what are the Synoptic Gospels? Is that sort of like the Gnostic Gospels? Revelations is my favorite book in the New Testament….I think the story of jesus and his apostles is amazing literature….compelling and interesting thousands of years later.

          • David Ashton

            Just the first three gospels, Matthew, Mark & Luke, which are similar but differ from John. Revelations uses imagery in a special way difficult to explain, and has been described as the happy hunting-ground of cranks.

  • MartelC

    Muslims are somewhat to blame -but more so US “Israel first’ policy which has exacerbated tensions there. Most middle eastern Christians are fleeing to Syria – which should tell you something – and we are trying to bring that regime down.

    Our policy makers CANNOT not know that Christians once lived in peace but are now threatened with every ‘spring’ we supported. They either do not care or actively want it that way. With the Neocons I would guess the latter.

    And by the way, Christians are treated horribly in Israel – priests are literally spit on by ultra orthodox jews – and our government (and silly christian zionists) ignore it.

    • razorrare

      Yes,glad you pointed that out…there is no civil war going on in Syria,it is a matter of outside agitators such as al-queda that is doing the warring…our policy makers supported pro-America Mubarek being brought down and helping Al queda in Libya overthrow Gadaffi who ironically it has been stated had a freindly relationship with Israel…and now of course we come to Assad who has been protecting Christians in Syria…Al Queda is a terroist group so why have our policy makers been siding with the true enemy,the muslim brotherhood & their terroist supporters Al Queda?…war profiteers like Marc Rich must be very happy with these new developments in policy that exacerbate more warring to feed their piggy banks.And then there is Bengazi……

      • PesachPatriot

        wasn’t marc rich the guy who was hiding in switzerland that was pardoned at the end of the clinton administration? Its pretty impressive that Assad the younger has managed to top his father’s body count in much less time in power.

  • white religion hated

    A rare article of truth and of course the pc liberal scum in America would disparage it anyway had it been reported all along.

    White Man Religion as Malcom X called it is hated just like the white race and it will also be eradicated. Forget the phony PR stunt of Obama the muslim using 2 liberal bibles from Lincoln and King troublemakers who were anything but a part of WMR and both justifiably suffered the same fates.

  • razorrare

    A Post that got deleted…

    There is no such thing as “Christian Zionists” nor “Judeo-Christianity.” You should be asking the question…Who in the West has been persecuting,exterminating our very symbols and teachings of Christianity…

    http://www.davidduke.com/?p=498

    An excerpt from article:

    The evil elements which opposed Jesus Christ and orchestrated his crucifixion were of course the Pharisees, the very body which created modern Judaism and its Talmud six centuries after Jesus Christ. Jesus rebuked them in the same way as should every true Christian leader of the 21st Century.

    …Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me.

    …Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it.

    …Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou are a Samaritan, and has a devil…(John 8:42-48)12

    May all of us, religious or not, have the strength and the courage to use the truth to defend our people from the fathers of the lie. There are a number of Christian ministers from many denominations who courageously stand up to the Jewish corruption of our Christian faith. They, and many Christian lay men dare to tell the truth about the Jews, face the same slanders and hatred that Christ faced. The New Testament repeatedly warns us of their power.

    Yet for fear of the Jews, no man spoke openly of him. (John 7:13)

    “Fear of the Jews” is just as real today as when Jesus Christ walked the earth. Their great power to intimidate, slander, imprison and even murder is as great today as it was in those ancient times. We must understand that it is not only the Palestinians who are occupied by Jewish power, it is America, too. Until we stand up to their power, there will be no freedom for the occupied West Bank of the Jordan River or the Jewish-occupied East Bank of the Potomac, the heart of the federal government. So this broadcast is dedicated and directed to my Christian listeners. May we not let “Fear of the Jews” prevent us from doing what’s right.

    Sincerely,

    David Duke

  • razorrare

    And yet another post that got deleted…
    I’m confident Israel is gleeful about this report since it never mentioned them of their oppression against Christians in Israel as well as their neighbors,the palestinians,who are estimated to be 30% of their population.Islam hates Christians but Judaists hates Christians even more.

  • Christians are persecuted in America….as long as they are white.

  • razorrare

    There is no such thing as “Christian Zionists” nor “Judeo-Christianity.” You should be asking the question…Who in the West has been persecuting,exterminating our very symbols and teachings of Christianity…

    http://www.davidduke.com/?p=498

    An excerpt from article:

    The evil elements which opposed Jesus Christ and orchestrated his crucifixion were of course the Pharisees, the very body which created modern Judaism and its Talmud six centuries after Jesus Christ. Jesus rebuked them in the same way as should every true Christian leader of the 21st Century.

    …Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me.

    …Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it.

    …Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou are a Samaritan, and has a devil…(John 8:42-48)12

    May all of us, religious or not, have the strength and the courage to use the truth to defend our people from the fathers of the lie. There are a number of Christian ministers from many denominations who courageously stand up to the Jewish corruption of our Christian faith. They, and many Christian lay men dare to tell the truth about the Jews, face the same slanders and hatred that Christ faced. The New Testament repeatedly warns us of their power.

    Yet for fear of the Jews, no man spoke openly of him. (John 7:13)

    “Fear of the Jews” is just as real today as when Jesus Christ walked the earth. Their great power to intimidate, slander, imprison and even murder is as great today as it was in those ancient times. We must understand that it is not only the Palestinians who are occupied by Jewish power, it is America, too. Until we stand up to their power, there will be no freedom for the occupied West Bank of the Jordan River or the Jewish-occupied East Bank of the Potomac, the heart of the federal government. So this broadcast is dedicated and directed to my Christian listeners. May we not let “Fear of the Jews” prevent us from doing what’s right.

    Sincerely,

    David Duke
    those who conspire to delete or remove the words of this post so shall i delete or remove any possible future considerations for supporting financially this site and will work tirelessly for others to do the same.

  • razorrare

    There is no such thing as “Christian Zionists” nor “Judeo-Christianity.” You should be asking the question…Who in the West has been persecuting,exterminating our very symbols and teachings of Christianity…

    http://www.davidduke.com/?p=498

    An excerpt from article:

    The evil elements which opposed Jesus Christ and orchestrated his crucifixion were of course the Pharisees, the very body which created modern Judaism and its Talmud six centuries after Jesus Christ. Jesus rebuked them in the same way as should every true Christian leader of the 21st Century.

    …Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me.

    …Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it.

    …Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou are a Samaritan, and has a devil…(John 8:42-48)12

    May all of us, religious or not, have the strength and the courage to use the truth to defend our people from the fathers of the lie. There are a number of Christian ministers from many denominations who courageously stand up to the Jewish corruption of our Christian faith. They, and many Christian lay men dare to tell the truth about the Jews, face the same slanders and hatred that Christ faced. The New Testament repeatedly warns us of their power.

    Yet for fear of the Jews, no man spoke openly of him. (John 7:13)

    “Fear of the Jews” is just as real today as when Jesus Christ walked the earth. Their great power to intimidate, slander, imprison and even murder is as great today as it was in those ancient times. We must understand that it is not only the Palestinians who are occupied by Jewish power, it is America, too. Until we stand up to their power, there will be no freedom for the occupied West Bank of the Jordan River or the Jewish-occupied East Bank of the Potomac, the heart of the federal government. So this broadcast is dedicated and directed to my Christian listeners. May we not let “Fear of the Jews” prevent us from doing what’s right.

    Sincerely,

    David Duke
    those who conspire to delete or remove the words of this post so shall i delete or remove any possible future considerations for supporting financially this site and will work tirelessly for others to do the same.