Falling through Cracks: Anti-White Discrimination on Rise in South Africa

Russia Today, August 3, 2012

The discrimination of the apartheid in South Africa has long come to an end. But now, two decades after the country’s long-fought battle for human rights finished, it’s the whites who now feel they’re second-class citizens.

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  • Ulick

    “Whites Claim Reverse Discrimination and Don’t Expect Change for the Better.”

    Nor should they expect change for the better.  Such change would require blacks being able to understand why eradicating whites from South Africa would be against their best interests, and it would require blacks to have the morals to know that murdering innocent people and gang raping women is wrong.  Unfortunately, as we know, morals and the ability to understand are not black strong suits.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      No, these are HUMAN strong suits.

  • dhs

    Expect the unexpected!  In the 1952,  how many Americans would have believed that in 2012 the Russian news media would be expressing the truth that America’s newsers are  ignoring/supressing?

    • Sardonicus

      Interesting isn’t it. Now we know why the Fourth Estate hates Putin so much.

      •  When are we all going to go ahead and admit that the Fourth Estate is now the First?  Just wondering.

  • Anan7

    This is the future of America.

    The Blacks and hispanics will not coddle us the way we coddle them now.  The multiculturalists and pro-immigration politicians like Romney and Obama are only ensuring that the USA looks like South Africa in 50 years.

    • Vil

      In 50 years? That’s rather optimistic.
      I’d say in just a few more years if Obama wins the election.
      Afterwards it’s Western Europe’s turn and then maybe Eastern Europe’s and Russia’s.

    • MekongDelta69

      50 years?

      How about in 3 months if Senor black muslim marxist wins re-election, declares martial law and declares himself a Mugabe for life.

      • Major

        If he does…and the Congress won’t act and if the military follows his “orders”…I can guarantee that we’ll be in a civil war and facing an insurrection.

        Martial law aside….I see about 40 states declaring secession and break away from the Republic and form another country. I hope I’m in one of them that does. We should need a passport to enter CA, NY, NJ, MD, ME, MA, NM, OR, WA and others anyhow.

        Let the illegals, OWS, frauds, grifters, socialists, commies, Acorners, welfare crud, non taxpayers and ALL demrats  flee to these hold outs…and watch the chaos…PopCorn anyone?

        Thanks for your service too…BZ!

  • Seek

    Oh?  It’s just now that people are “discovering” that whites in South Africa feel as though they’re second-class citizens?  Welcome to reality:  Whites in that country ARE second-class citizens.  And they’ve been that way since 1994. 

    • newscomments70

      Whites are second class citizens in every western country, but it is most obvious in South Africa. 

  • KevinPhillipsBong

    All groups, all nations discriminate in favor of their own. It’s only whites who’ve laid down their arms. Twenty years ago the “evil” pro-Apartheid groups saw this coming, not that they will get any positive credit for their prescience. White South Africans opened the homes of their own construction to blacks and now we’re supposed to be surprised when White South Africans are told to sleep on the back porch while blacks raid the fridge. 

    Any one of Mother Nature’s creations who would open its larder to a competitor (whether it saw the “other” as a competitor or no) will find itself exploited and dispossessed. This is not hate. This is nature. Ask Aesop, should the ant feel guilty for the suffering of the grass hopper? Answer: not if it gives a fig for the survival of its children.

  • Church_of_Jed

    We want to feel sorry for the White South Africans, but they voluntarily set up their civilization in Africa. They should have know that the future was full of rape, murder, and mayhem.

    Ditto for Southern slave owners. They built their lives around enslaved Africans without fully preparing for the inevitable day when they’d be surrounded by Africans who were no longer controlled by slavery.

    You just can’t regret Whites who make themselves vulnerable to the horrors of afrovoodoo.

    • Altruism. When we were isolated in Europe and only interacted with other Whites our altruistic nature was a powerful advantage. We prospered in the cold, cloudy North.

      What was a strength is now a weakness. When mixed with “diversity” our natural altruism is a one-way street. The dark ones cannot return what they don’t understand.

  • Hirene

    Blacks who showed promise and ambition were helped  to go as far as they could in the old South Africa.  Nelson Mandela was educated to be a lawyer.  The opposite is true today.  Whites who are talented are kept down.

  • MrGJG

    What did they think was going to happen when they turned the asylum over to the inmates? 
    There was a reason SA operated under apartheid with whites at the top,  it worked and everyone got fat.
    The opposite, as anyone with half a brain could have predicted, has been an unmitigated disaster.
    Nature has dictated since the beginning of man, that blacks not only smell bad, but their also bad administrators.  

  • “Equality” in human relations is usually a pipe dream.  The odds of two people being exactly equal in status are lower than the odds of two people having equal IQ scores, down to the point (and given the fact that IQ scores come with a margin of error…).  The vast majority of the people we meet in life are either of higher or lower status than ourselves.

    So it goes with races and ethnic groups.  Two groups living in proximity will almost never be of equal status.  One will be higher or lower than the other.  This tends to cause no end of problems between the two groups.  Ergo, separation is the best answer; a far better answer than being subjugated by a black majority.

    The sooner stupid dumbkopf libs figure out that equality is not attainable, the better off humanity will be.

    • JohnEngelman

      Orientals and whites get along fine together. We do not need to be separated. 

      • Boereseun

        Speak for yourself. Asians have their own lands, let them make a success or failure there. 

        • JohnEngelman

          Asians have as much right to be here as you do. The only people who have the right to complain about your presence are the same people who have the right to complain about yours: the American Indians. 
              
          I like Orientals a lot. If you do not, go back to Europe. 

          • Boereseun

            I don’t even live in America… if you hadn’t noticed. If you like Asians  so much, go live in Asia and get your yellow fever cure there instead.  

            Your comment made absolutely no mention of America, it was merely a pro-Asian comment everyone has come to expect from you. You are speaking for yourself John, so drop that ‘we’.

            If Asians and whites are forced together, whites will eventually be destroyed. You might not mind that much but I do and will be pro-segregation till the day I die.

            Hat-tip on the typical lefty argument though. It whites don’t like the multicult, they can F-off back to Europe. Which also happens to be facing huge immigration problems.

            Nah, seems to me that you agree with the left and that whites don’t deserve a homeland, a place that is all white like China or Japan.

          • JohnEngelman

            How will whites be destroyed by living with Orientals? 

          • Boereseun

            Ask that same question with blacks and Hispanics, John.

            Give it time and soon the population of Asians in America will be giving the Hispanics a run for their money.

          • Achaean

            Whites built North America and Australia, and therefore have a sovereign right to decide whether they want Asians or not. If Asians are so great, why are they longing to come to white nations? Clearly, non-whites, Semites, have an obsession with the cultures whites creates, the beauty of whites, their mannerisms, decency and physical prowess as exemplified in the fact that they have always dominated most of the Olympics, with Semites and Indians always coming last.  

          • ncpride

            John’s claim that Asians have just as much right to be here as we do is absurd. One would think that Europeans who have been here for centuries (like my family), fought in many wars for this country, and help build it to what it is today would get a few more brownie points, huh? Not according to John. He has no problem rapping my ancestors on the knuckles about the poor Indians, yet after we have poured sweat and blood into this country, made it a safe and thriving first would nation, NOW everyone is invited in and it belongs to them as
            well! I wonder if China or Japan would appreciate if I made the same assertion about their homelands? I think… not.

          • rightrightright

            I live in England.  I am English.  We are swamped by Asian migrants.  I don’t like it.  John, where do I go?  

          • JohnEngelman

            In England you do seem to have a problem with Pakistani immigrants. Orientals and east Indians have low crime rates. I wish more of them lived in my area. Their cultures,and the civilizations they built over a period of several thousand years fascinate me. 

          • Boereseun

            It never occurred to John that he can marvel at Asians in, oh I don’t know, ASIA! Why the need to bring them to white countries John? Do you hate whites that much? 

          • JohnEngelman

            Boereseun, 
            How does my admiration for Orientals indicate a hatred for whites? Those who think I hate whites are projecting their race bigotry onto me. I do not hate anyone because of his or her race, although I acknowledge that racial differences are significant, intractable, and largely genetic. 

          • Boereseun

            John, your admiration of Asians is your own business. Fortunately, both the Chinese and the Japanese have their very own countries. Whites are slowly but surely losing theirs. If you have a fascination with Asian culture and civilisation, you can go and see it in Asia.

            I do not hate Asians. I respect the Japanese and Taiwanese immensely for sticking to their guns on no immigration. I also respect them because they were two of the few countries around the world that still traded with Apartheid South Africa. I just have enough respect for them to tell them that I don’t want or need them over whites. I prefer whites over Asians and I will never apologise for that.

            I’m fully for trading and doing business with Asians but am not willing to do so over the sovereign right of whites to rule ourselves. If we allow Asians into our countries, just like with blacks and browns, they will rule US in due time. You can count on that.

          • ABM

            I think you need to go live in Asia. Your Asian lovefest is starting to disgust me.

          • JohnEngelman

            The anti Asian bigotry of some of the posters here started to disgust me a long time ago, and continues to do so. 
                      
            Orientals are wonderful people. They have low rates of crime and illegitimacy, and high average IQs. What’s not to like about them? 

          • LaSantaHermandad

            I agree with you. As an educator of many years, some of my finest and most likable students have been Asians. It was a teacher’s dream to have classes of motivated White and Asian kids.

          • JohnEngelman

            Everyone I know who has taught Oriental students has told me the same thing. Even when poor they are well behaved.
                              
            I lived in downtown San Jose, California in the early 1980s when the area was engulfed by an influx of impoverished Vietnamese war refugees. I would often get off work at 10:00 pm, and walk three miles to get home. I was never a victim of crime, and never thought I would be.                
            Now I live in a predominantly black city. If I tried to walk through it at 10:00 pm I would risk my life. 
                           
            Orientals earn their reputation as “the ideal minority.” 

  •  Rape statistics blow the “poverty is the sole cause of crime” myth right out of the water.  There is no plausible argument for poverty as the cause of the black rape rape (which is 6x the White rate, last time I checked).

    • The__Bobster

      After a Bantu mugs an old White lady, does poverty make him beat and rape her, too?

    • LaSantaHermandad

      All repeat rapists should be jailed for life and be required to undergo a penectomy or as Rush Limbaugh might say to the residents of Rio Linda- “Bobbitized”.
      Leave on the “cojones”. It would be like having ammo but no delivery system for the rest of their useless, undeserved lives.
       Or just use the ammo on THEM and get it over with. 

  •  There’s an awful lot of space between “the same fate” (as that of Whites in SA) and America, and narrowing your field of view to places where Blacks have become the majority is a non-sequitur.  Blacks are nowhere near becoming the majority in America, and are not on pace to do so any time in the future, either.

    • Nevertheless, militant, and hateful Hispanics are! La Raza Hispanics and their ignorant raza are just as capable of relegating Whites to a similar fate as Whites in SA, especially if we continue to disregard our sovereignty and immigration law in favor of third world invaders.

    • Fritz

      Svigor: They don’t need to ” become a majority”, if  Whites cede power to them.  Whites have passed countless laws giving minorities preference in hiring, government contracts, education, etc.  Whites have made it a crime to speak or even think negatively about minorities.  I could go on and on for pages describing how Whites are accomodating their own demise.  If you think we have nothing to fear until they actually outnumber us, you better think again.

      • LaSantaHermandad

        This may seem irrelevant to the discussion but I bought Murder in Brentwood by Mark Fuhrman soon after it came out. I started it but the daily distractions of work resulted in my putting it aside. I picked it up again three days ago and have been unable to put it down. 
        He laid it all out about how PC dominated the prosecution who were apologizing to OJ for having to indict him and with the help of the incompetent prosecutors and lead detectives, he was thrown to the wolves. 
        What you say above could have been Fuhrman’s own words. A guilty, horrific murderer was set free due to a “word” that may or may NOT have been used. 
        Judge Ito was star struck and his wife was Fuhrman’s watch commander who took a dislike to him from the day she took command.  She so much as told him that she was going to may his life Hell. Ito should have recused himself because   a lot of his rulings definitely were prejudicial.
        As you said, “White ceded power to them.”
        And things like this continue to happen in courtrooms over the US.

    • LaSantaHermandad

      They certainly are ” Culling” each other in the large cities.

  • Oh dear! The tables have turned, haven’ they? Btw, I’m sure the white christian racists on this forum will be overjoyed to know that an African American Gabby Douglas ( from Gary, Indiana) has WON the  coveted all-round & individual GOLD medal tally in the formerly white dominated sport of gymnastics at London 2012,  leaving all her pathetic white female competitors losing and whining in the dust!  Ok now on the count, lets blame JOOOS, blacks, liberals and cultural marxists/ commies/socialists/ black moslems/ Asians/ Indians/ Hispanics/ LGBT/ Scientists/ leftists….oh wait….who else? GOD!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czq3qKHuw_c 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJtyLYSnCBo 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fATxdWLOktg 

    • ABM

      Stupid post troll.

    • JohnEngelman

      Angelina,
       
      I appreciate your presence here. Please keep posting. 

      • Thank you John! To be honest on this entire Amren forum, posters like you make the most sense.

    • Boereseun

      You actually watch the Olympics? 

    • LaSantaHermandad

      !Ay Mujer!.  ¿ Usted. sufre de odio propio por ser blanca?  !Que amargura brotando de una cara tan bella!  Supongo que la imagen es de usted. Si no es,  le ruego que me disculpe.

      Con todo respeto, sugiero que ud. busque algún tratamiento.  “Pathetic white female competitors etc.”?  Esa es una declaración llena de odio.
      A propósito, ud. mencionó  a los Musulmanes Negros. Los musulmanes ( el color no importa) son los que quieren matar a los judíos, los homosexuales, los cristianos, y a las lindas mujeres (después de violarlas) y hasta sus propias hijas  que se visten como ud. y a cualquier ser humano que escoja no vivir según los dictados de la Qu’uran. Oh,  se me olvidó incluir a los perros y los cerdos.
      Si algún día, que Dios no lo quiera, ud. se encuentra en peligro, no busque socorro de ningún Musulmán.
      Debe pensar en eso.Que Dios le bendiga.

  • Point of order:  You alluded to our favorite troll that likes to change names frequently.  In this case, the lovely and gracious “Miss” Angelina Mendes, aka Aaron from Rhode Island, aka Liberal Weiss, aka Lindsay Weiss.  “She” or “he” showed up frequently overnight, and of course I dispatched all of his/her/its posts to the File 13 that they deserve.

  • LaSantaHermandad

    You mean there’s something more than raping. mutilating and murdering that could be on the increase?

  • On the Rise?

    What, did they change forcing the ownership of large companies to being over 50% black owned to over 70%?
     

  • GravitonX

    All I see here is an incredible lack of common sense on the part of the Boers.  Did they really think they were going to be “on top” forever?  What happens when the people you oppressed eventually overcome your previous advantage?  Would they not seek revenge, giving you a “taste of your own medicine?”  These would seem to be extremely basic questions the Boers arrogantly dismissed and by now their descendants suffer.

  • To Everyone here:
    I know this might be getting off subject, but, since we’re talking about race discrimination along with crime.  Can anyone here explain the incident that took place in Wisconson yesterday, where a “white nationalist” went into a Sikh temple in a Milwaukee suburb and killed 6 people before dying in a shootout with the police!?! I just like to know your take with feelings on this subject. Farewell!!

    • The Verdict of History

      Sadly, a small contingent of over-zealous actors occasionally lash out in violence in the name of race-realist and white nationalist movements.

      Most in our community denounce violence against any ethnic group, unless said groups perpetrate violence against us, in which case we have a NATURAL RIGHT to defend ourselves and our people.

      As usual, our enemies will employ their propaganda in an effort discredit perfectly healthy and understandable sentiments among White Americans, and they relentlessly brand our entire movement as “supremacist” or “nazi”… The more demographic trends continue to undermine the native born white population, you can expect incidents like this to spike… Blame liberal policy makers for promoting WAVES of immigration from non-European regions, and for inciting the IRE of otherwise amicable (yet alert) Whites.

      • GravitonX

         You feel undermined and need to assert your natural rights.  What does that mean?  I’m curious.

      • To Verdict of  History and Graviton X:
        Thanks for your response to my post and for giving your views.Furthermore, you’re right that people can feel threaten to ideas or others that may appear to be different. In addition, although as you can see, i’m a person of color, yet there’s changes i don’t like seeing either. For immorality is taking place. In additon, i, too, hate it when nice cities, neighborhoods, parks, apartment buildings ,and overall standards of living go down the tubes. Nevertheless, we have to accept the immigrants are here to stay. They work hard and keep the wheels of industry going. Without them,our society would come to a grinding halt within 5-10 yrs. The forces to be anger at is these greedy corps, investors on Wall St. along with this pitiful gov. All sides are going to have knock off the victim mentality and work as a team to solve these nations problems. Thanks!!

  • GravitonX

    Honestly, I find incredible that you don’t see the fundamental flaw in your statement.  If these Blacks had “a very long list” of benefits under white rule, why would they be seeking such heavy revenge on their “benefactors?”  Please, spare me the notions that they “don’t know what’s good for them” or their heads wee filled with propaganda because ultimately all humans react the same to oppression.  As for your response, it’s well documented that sometimes abusers think that they somehow were “the best thing” to happen to their victims, but usually we call that a psychological pathology.

  • GravitonX

     I think the fundamental difference between you and me is that you think of them as animals with a narrow reasoning skills and I think of them as humans.  Incidentally, I don’t assume your level of contact with blacks as you do mine.  I have a AfricanAmerican employee who is nothing like you describe.  In fact, I think he’s more reasonable than you.  In fact, I would probably never hire someone like you knowing how you think, but, that’s beside the point.

    So, now that we’ve establish that we pretty much disagree of the basics, and I’m not one to take more childish, insulting behavior, I think we’re done here.

    • Laager

      Based on your thesis in this thread would you say the same applies to the North American Indians, or First Nation which I believe is the the PC term today?

      After all, there are some parallels with South Africa  – to whit:
      the whites showed up uninvited from Europe, went to war against them countless times, destroyed their means of sustenance – the Buffalo herds, stole all their lands, incarcerated them in what was left over which the white man did not want – the reservations, and then supported the survivors on the first US welfare system.

      One of the comments most white South Africans make after visiting the USA for the first time is; Where are the Indians? 
      We do not see them in business, administration or sport teams.

      Would say they would be fully justified in breaking out of the reservations, going on the warpath, raping, robbing and murdering the Americans who are paying for their welfare subsistence, all in the name of rectifying past wrongs?

      That is the message I get from you.
      Am I right or am I wrong?   

  • refocus

    Is this why Hillary is dancing in South Africa?

  • Laager

     “no one can change their skin colour” Correct.Most of the posts on this site are not about skin colour per se.They are about the behaviour, capability and lack of performance that comes with a specific skin tone.