Drop George Zimmerman’s Murder Charge

Alan Dershowitz, NY Daily News, May 18, 2012

A medical report by George Zimmerman‘s doctor has disclosed that Zimmerman had a fractured nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head and a back injury on the day after the fatal shooting. If this evidence turns out to be valid, the prosecutor will have no choice but to drop the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman—if she wants to act ethically, lawfully and professionally.

There is, of course, no assurance that the special prosecutor handling the case, State Attorney Angela Corey, will do the right thing. Because until now, her actions have been anything but ethical, lawful and professional.

She was aware when she submitted an affidavit that it did not contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. She deliberately withheld evidence that supported Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. The New York Times has reported that the police had “a full face picture” of Zimmerman, before paramedics treated him, that showed “a bloodied nose.” The prosecutor also had photographic evidence of bruises to the back of his head.

But none of this was included in any affidavit.

Now there is much more extensive medical evidence that would tend to support Zimmerman’s version of events. This version, if true, would establish self-defense even if Zimmerman had improperly followed, harassed and provoked Martin.

A defendant, under Florida law, loses his “stand your ground” defense if he provoked the encounter—but he retains traditional self-defense if he reasonably believed his life was in danger and his only recourse was to employ deadly force.

Thus, if Zimmerman verbally provoked Martin, but Martin then got on top of Zimmerman and banged his head into the ground, broke his nose, bloodied his eyes and persisted in attacking Zimmerman—and if Zimmerman couldn’t protect himself from further attack except by shooting Martin—he would have the right to do that. (The prosecution has already admitted that it has no evidence that Zimmerman started the actual fight.)

This is a fact-specific case, in which much turns on what the jury believes beyond a reasonable doubt. It must resolve all such doubts in favor of the defendant, because our system of justice insists that it is better for 10 guilty defendants to go free than for even one innocent to be wrongfully convicted.

You wouldn’t know that from listening to Corey, who announced that her jobs was “to do justice for Trayvon Martin”—not for George Zimmerman.

As many see it, her additional job is to prevent riots of the sort that followed the acquittal of the policemen who beat Rodney King.

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  • Detroit_WASP

    When leftist liberal Alan Dershowitz says Zimmerman is being rail-roaded, you KNOW the guy is innocent.  HOWEVER, all they have to do is get a mostly black jury seated and nothing presented in the trial will even matter….Zimmerman will be lynched.  The couple of whites on the jury will cave in to the majority as they did in the OJ case.

    •  Again, GZ’s lawyers will have more leeway over who is and isn’t on the jury that Corey.  Because GZ is Hispanic, Corey will not be able to preemptorily challenge any prospective Hispanic jurors.  GZ’s lawyers can preemptorily challenge any prospective black jurors.

    • blight14

      While I agree with your premiss, I can assure you the vile Dershowitz has an ulterior agenda….he is rabidly anti-white so we can be certain he has deeper goals in mind….now, what they are, I have no idea….but it ISN’T some sudden epiphany……

  • libertarian1234

    I’ve never agreed with Dershowitz before, but I do on this one.

    The only other unbiased report I’ve seen on this has been on Fox News: http://tinyurl.com/6ubt37x

  • blindsight

    Dershowitz has gone public about this case several times, always voicing opinions favorable to Zimmerman. I wonder if this has to do with him being a “PEP” – “progressive on everything except Israel.” Obama is perceived by many Jews as being insufficiently pro-Israel if not anti-Israel. Given that much of the media spin about the Zimmerman case seems designed to mobilize blacks to help reelect Obama, I can’t help but wonder if the reason or at least one of the reasons Dershowitz has made his views on this case public has to do with a desire on his part to see a more Israel-friendly Republican in the White House.

  • slobotnavich

    Why isn’t this prosecutor under arrest?  Her actions are so egregious that they certainly fall under the definition of criminal conduct.

    Did Zimmerman brandish a weapon?  No. Did he draw and fire his weapon before being attacked?  No. 
    Did his condition after the incident show clear evidence of being attacked?  Yes.

    This case speaks volumes about the rife corruption within this administration and all city governments controlled by Democrats throughout this country.

    • “Why isn’t this prosecutor under arrest?”
      Super excellent question.
      Those of us who are politically active need to push even half an inch in all the places where it can be done and can be continued to be done, the rules, regulations, precedents, and laws, and law changes and so on, that would stop prosecutors from committing such obviously blatant egregious violations of their affidavits and tasks and whatever. I have a great worry it is not only this one prosecutor.

      • refocus

        The courts down here in Texas are famous for being corrupt. 

        The government throws a bone to the lawyers, effectively shutting them up – a safety valve if you will, by letting them feed on the population.  It takes corrupt judges, court reporters, and the very process of jury selection to make it all work, but work it does.

        What is a lawsuit?  It is a multiple felony crime committed by two lawyers and a judge against an honest working man with the intention being to cause him such a conundrum that he commits suicide.  The crime partners bet that the grieving wife will throw the contested assets on the floor and walk away broken hearted.  The judge and the lawyers will then divide up the spoils.  

        The lawyers joke goes like this:  You are the one with the money.  And you are being raped, lay back and enjoy it.   Ha ha ha its so funny.

        The jury?  All, each and every one on it, is selected on the basis of: lack of income, lack of business experience, lack of property ownership, whether or not they are being proscribed psychotropic drugs which is preferred, and the condition of their abode.

        Zimmerman does not stand a chance.

        • anarchyst

          We need to eliminate “sovereign immunity” for ALL public officials.  If these “public servants” had to fear lawsuits from wrongfully convicted victims, they would be forced to “clean up” their acts . . .

          • refocus

             America was ruined by lawsuits a long time ago. 

            As near as I can place it, in 1820 John Marshall, a judge on the SCOTUS wrote an opinion that has stood until today, imagine that.  Here it is:

            “A wrongfully sued defendant has no recourse upon the plaintiff because to do so would tend to deny a poor man his day in court.”

            I will come out and say it:
            two white trial lawyers and one white  judge selected at random have killed more white people and stolen more money from honest white people than all the convicts in prison.

          • anarchyst

            You are correct about lawsuits being a problem and that lawyers and judges have been responsible for the deaths (and ruination) of many white people. 
            That being said, lawsuits CAN prove to be a powerful deterrent when used properly. 
            NO person should be immune from lawsuits for irresponsible (and possibly criminal) actions, ESPECIALLY agents of government.   Personal liability would do much to reign in the excesses of government bureaucrats. 
            If bureaucrats feared losing everything they have, they would most certainly act more responsibly. 
            The situation we have now encourages  groups like the ACLU, $PLC, EPA and others to employ government attorneys to browbeat (and bankrupt) citizens and groups that they do not agree with.  Environmentalist wackos also employ the same techniques without fear of being countersued.  Enabling those on the receiving end of frivolous lawsuits to countersue officials personally would be a balance to the one-sided lawsuit-happy system that we presently have.
            This should also apply to irresponsible reporting by the so-called “mainstream media” . . . the journalistic malpractice in the trayvon case (among others) should demand redress . . .

  • anarchyst

    It turns out that Mr. Zimmerman was on the ground being pummeled by “poor little” Trayvon Martin. Mr. Zimmerman was merely defending himself against “great bodily harm”. The police report and witnesses state that Mr. Zimmerman was attacked by “poor little” Trayvon Martin (who outweighs Mr. Zimmerman by a considerable amount). The grass stains on Mr. Zimmerman’s back and the wounds to the back of his head PROVE that he was attacked. Of course the feds will get involved in this so-called “civil rights (for some)” “violation” because no crime was committed by Mr. Zimmerman. Of course, it will be brought out that Mr. Zimmerman uttered a racial “slur” (never happened). What we have in MY country is “mob rule” with the certain minority as the complainant and the federal government as the “enforcer”.
    The media Ignored America’s worst hate crime a few years ago when a white couple in KNOXVILLE, Tennessee named SHANNON CHRISTIAN and CHRIS NEWSOME (google it) were brutally tortured and killed by blacks! They were both raped and burned, the man had his genitals removed, and the girl was forced to drink bleach among other things! They were finally after days shot in the head and killed and the lib media was SILENT because they were WHITE! I wont shed one tear for this black kid until the media cares about the innocent whites being brutalized by blacks!Look at the inaction against the “Jena 6” and the “Knoxville murders” . . . google them and prepare to be sickened by the depravity of the “minorities” involved . . .

    • Detroit_WASP

      Ditto on all points.  Also, I have NEVER heard anyone in the media mention the fact that little 6 foot Trayavon had a cell phone and IF he were afraid of the big bad white man, why didn’t Trayvon call 911?…or run to dad’s house??? 

      Trayvon could have said to Zimmerman, “hey, why are you following me, I am Trayvon Martin and my dad lives in this complex.” 

      Instead, he apparently called his girlfriend, came back and assaulted Mr. Z.  And based on all the YouTube vids I have see of youths in action,  T probably would have robbed Z as well if he had not been killed.    

  • anarchyst

    Why is our “mainstream media” showing “poor little” Trayvon in a photo as a 12-year old when his age 17 “gangsta thug” picture is available?
    Our so-called “news media” practices journalistic malpractice when it comes to race. 
    The “Jena 6” and the “Knoxville horrors” are downplayed while a “gangsta thug” gets elevated to near “sainthood”.
    The solution is to BOYCOTT the advertisers in these media outlets and LET THEM KNOW WHY.  Money doesn’t just “talk”, it “screams”. . . Hit them in the pocketbook.  When they see their “bottom line” collapse, they will get the message.
    Since whites have been effectively disenfranchised from the legal system (according to “attorney general” eric holder, whites are not afforded “protections” under the so-called “civil-rights (for some)” laws) , this may be the only way to get “justice”.

    • MrGJG

       I’m beginning to wonder if ideology trumps profit with these leftist zealots. They’ve no doubt made the connection yet they keep forging ahead with seemingly little regard for bottom line.

  • anarchyst

    IF “young master Trayvon” were still alive, he would be applying for classes at the University of Corrections to get his degree in “street cred” . . .

  • The “African-American Community” (sic) cannot continue holding the American justice system hostage under a mass threat of violence when they don’t get their way.  The search for the “Great White Defendant,” as Tom Wolfe called it, continues…

    • mikejones91

      That’s what I said when I heard his actual voice. It sounds vague but just something about the way he spoke/phrasing, led me to the same opinion of him. Well put by the way.

  • blindsight

    CNN continues to refer to Zimmerman as “white Hispanic,” as it and the New York Times did months ago. Technically, the term is correct given that it is consistent with how the US Census Bureau classifies people. But as a Lexis search reveals, it is nearly unprecedented for the media to use it as it has been used in this case.

    Had Zimmerman been victimized by a non-Hispanic white, the media would’ve referred to him as Hispanic.

    Had he accomplished something newsworthy, the media would’ve referred to him as Hispanic, Latino, or a person of color, to emphasize that what was accomplished was accomplished by someone who is not white.

    The media has been bent on spinning this case as a case of a stereotypical evil white racist straight out of a movie like Mississippi Burning, who “racially profiled,” “stalked” and “murdered” an innocent, unarmed black “child.”

    Yesterday the NYT ran this headline on its front page: Whites Account for Under Half of Births in U.S.

    As we all know, many people consider news about a dwindling white population cause for celebration (in a country where 90% of the population was white before the 1965 immigration act). It is this type of anti-white sentiment that is behind the spin put on this case and behind repeated references to Zimmerman as “white Hispanic.”

    • mikejones91

      I was watching World News the other night and they showed the actual copy of the police report (photographed) and under race it read “White”. Not White Hispanic, just White.

      • sarah stein

         The police are reporting all crimes being committed by Hispanics as white.

    • George zimmerman is white yet Warrens is the first woman of color at harvard with 0/32 indian

      • blight14

         Granted, 0/32’s IS a low percentage(lol) but by golly, surely she’s been ‘wronged’ by whitey somewhere along the line…..see, its called liberal ‘math’, she’s 100% female and 0/32’s indian which makes her a 100% uber protected minority….the list of grants/jobs/benefits must be staggering!

  • Of course Dershowitz is right. And of course the prosecutor won’t follow his advice. The goal here is to crucify George Zimmerman in order to pacify the blacks. At least, that’s what the state hopes to do.

     Look for Corey to use her challenges to remove as many Whites from the jury pool as possible, because she knows she can’t get a conviction with a mostly-White jury. An all-black jury will convict him, for certain; a mostly black jury with two or three Whites and/or Hispanics probably will too, unless the Whites hold out stubbornly and don’t allow themselves to be intimidated in the jury room. But seeing the way so many Whites act nowadays when approached threateningly by blacks, don’t count on that hung jury.

     If it does come, then the ball’s back in Corey’s court, and she faces a real conundrum: Re-file the charges, and the whole thing will be prolonged for probably a second year. Let the hung jury stand as an acquittal, and black riots sweep Florida — and maybe a lot of other places, too.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    just because she has negroid features and shame and self-hate because of it she tries to hurt an innocent person. disgraceful

    • The__Bobster

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Corey

      Corey was born and raised in Jacksonville, Florida, where she attended Englewood High School. Corey is of Arabic (Syrian) descent.[3]

      • Major

        I’ve never thought of Arabs as white either. Nomadic, moon worshippers and a thorn in the backside of humanity along with their “brethern” in America should be remembered. It’s not whites who fly planes into buildings…it’s the savages of ME deserts.

  • mikejones91

    Poetry. 

  • radical7

    I question Dersowitz’s motives for being so vocal in this case? He was also very outspoken in the O.J. Simpson case as well. He seems to love taking a contrarian and controversial viewpoint. I guess he needs to get back on television again. After all, we have not seen him that much over the past several years.

    • The__Bobster

      He seems to love taking a contrarian and controversial viewpoint….
      _____________

      Is he any relation of yours, Jamal?

    • blindsight

      He might figure that undermining the anti-Zimmerman forces also undermines pro-Obama forces, and might help at least a teeny bit toward preventing the reelection of someone who is considered by many Jews to be insufficiently friendly toward Israel, and who might be reluctant to attack Iran at Israel’s insistence. Dershowitz may be contrarian, but he has never ever said or done anything contrary to the interests of his tribe.

    • Flagged for trolling.
      Someone ban this clown already…

  • radical7

    Bobster wrote:

    “Is he any relation of yours, Jamal?”

    You are such a di*khead!

  • Hirschibold

    On the one hand, it is true that George Zimmerman had video evidence of wounds corresponding to his statement given to the police; but on the other hand, young Trayvon apparently had gone to the store earlier to purchase Skittles. These were not lowly chocolate confections; these were Skittles.

    And while one could argue that the autopsy report shows knuckle scrapes consistent with the wounds on Zimmerman, and witness corroboration, it bears repeating that the candy which Trayvon purchased prior to this incident was Skittles; not Reese’s Cups, and certainly not a chocolatey nougat confection like a Snickers or Three Musketeers.

    The media may have been derelict in this case; they may have published misleading photos to confuse the public as to the actual height of each man in question, and they may have edited audio of a 9-1-1 tape to make Zimmerman seem racist, and they may have even invented a new racial category (the “white Hispanic”) just to gin up a racial controversy where none existed, but that is beside the point. When Skittles are involved, all bets are off.

  • s shadow

    Corey, the prosecutor, appears to be on very shakey ground.  It is apparent that she deviated grossly from her legal and ethical obligations.  She may even be subject to legal sanctions for prosecutorial misconduct.  Someone in the area should file a complaint with the Florida Bar.  Read the local newspaper articles and write a hard hitting letter. The Bar will be obligated to start an investigation, and she will have to submit a formal answer to the complaint.  She could lose her law license over something this blatant.  If she committed a felony, it’s automatic.  The Florida Bar can easily be found on the internet.

    • She’s another Mike Nifong, willing to railroad an innocent person in order to curry favor with black and liberal white voters.  She deserves Nifong’s fate.  I have to say, this is the case that finally, fully, opened my eyes to what is going on in this country.  They will never be closed again.

      • mikejones91

        haha Rusty Shackelford. Nice. With a name like that, I am sure you have known what’s been going on LONG before this case. You know where I can purchase alien urine?

  • Church_of_Jed

    Rejoice with us over the coming news that Angela Corey will be the new Mike Nifong.

  • ageofknowledge

    If the glove doesn’t fit, then you have to acquit.

  • Johnny Reb

    This doesn’t matter.  It wouldn’t matter if Skittles was stabbing Zimmerman with a pitchfork when he got shot.  All that matters to dumb blacks and corrupt white libs is that “Zimmerman started it” by following Skittles around.

    Remember that the average black has an IQ of 85.  Remember too that blacks, as a species, lack the analytical skills and conception of time that allows whites to envision a scenario where the event happened in phases . . . in the first phase, Zimmerman followed Skittles . . . and in the second phase Skittles attacks Zimmerman.

    It’s only the last phase that matters.

    Of course, also lost on blacks are the fine points of Florida law . . . among them the principle that it doesn’t matter who started what . . . if someone is beating you and you fear for your life, you have the right to defend yourself with lethal force. 

    It has nothing to do with “Stand Your Ground” . . . it’s a totally different principle . . . the common law principle of self-defense.  All states have something similar.

  • I can’t stand Alan Dershowitz.  Every interview I’ve ever seen featuring him has him coming across as an arrogant, self absorbed, dirt bag….and of course he’s a far left idiot. 

    But in this case he’s right.
    Insert comments about blind squirels, broken clocks, etc here….

    • IstvanIN

      A broken clock, even an old one with Roman numerals, is right twice a day.

  • Yup.
    Shades of the Duke Llacross Team incident.

    • eunometic

      Sadly most whites have a tiny fraction of the funds the duke lacrosse players had to achieve justice.  Isn’t Mr Zimmermann 100% Native Peruvian descent apart from one black grandmother  and adopted into a Jewish family.   Woe may befall a genuine White man falling into these circumstances.

  • To be fair, I’m not sure that the drugs in Saint Skittle’s system were the cause of his violent assault.  But they do go a long way toward shwoing that he had a habit of commiting criminal acts.  This will help to destroy that “harlmess little kid” fairy tale the left and the press are peddling.

    •  They also show that Zim was correct when he stated that Martin looked like he was on drugs.

  • radical7

    Afrikanner stated”Someone ban this clown already…”Can you dispute anything that I said? I didn’t think so.

    • Shush, child.
      The adults are having a discussion here.

  • IstvanIN

    If George Zimmerman had had a spanish last name we never would have heard of this story.  The last name is what made them go with the white racist angle.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    pasted from breitbart
    Trayvon doubled back……Zimmerman was on the phone with the dispatcher
    for 4 minutes, at two minutes into the call, Trayvon started running.
    Based on the map, he was somewhere between 75 and 150 yards from his
    dads girlfriends house. He had a minimum of Two minutes to cover that
    distance.

    Zimmerman started to follow then the dispatcher told him they didn’t
    need him to do that. The call was calm as he explained where the police
    could find him etc.

    Treyvon should have been safely home by then.

    Lots of other things that have been brought up countless times, but this
    point is pretty clear….he had plenty of time to get away, however he
    didn’t, he didn’t want to run to the town home….he doesn’t appear to
    be scared of the guy in the red jacket at all? He doubled back or hid or
    something.

    • Likely the black punk was thinking, “I’m ‘onna mess this honkey up,” as that’s the way they usually think when they perceive themselves as holding the advantage. I think Zimmerman walked after Martin for a short distance, but then if you’ve listened to the tape of the 911 call he made, you hear Zimmerman say, “He ran.” His voice drops on the word “ran,” as much as to say, “And I’m sure not going to run to try to catch him.” That’s when he was returning to his vehicle, and the punk decided to “mess him up.” Bad choice, punk.

  • radical7

    Afrikanerhart stated:

    “Shush, child.The adults are having a discussion here”

    Then it’s time for you to leave.

  • O’Mara had better peremptorily challenge every black jury pool member he possibly can. He’s got to keep the number low enough that they can’t intimidate the non-black (probably White) members into voting for conviction.

    • Assuming that the whites don’t vote for conviction simply as a matter of self preservation – not from the blacks on the jury but from people everywhere else.  You know that if Zimmerman is acquitted, it will be open season on those jurors.  Even if their names were not formally released, somebody would find a way to make sure that info got out there. 

    • He needs to get at least one stubborn, unreconstructed White (or “latino” – a Florida Cuban might do the trick) man on that jury.

  • ncpride

    That’s what I’d do in his shoes. No way does he get an unbiased ‘jury of his peers’ after the media hack job and relentless race baiting for months.

    • Strider73

       It’s SOP after the prosecution rests its case for the defense attorney to move for a directed acquittal on the grounds of insufficient evidence. 99.9% of the time the judge denies that motion, but every once in awhile it does happen. If the judge in this case has any ethics at all, he will do that here.

    •  If the judge is unbiased (i.e., a White, male, non-leftist gentile) then I’d agree.  The odds seem pretty low going in, though.

  • blight14

     Well stated Guest……………

  • Athling

    Perception is everything. We do not have a problem with black on white crime because the Ministers of Information who control what the masses see and hear say we do not.

    We must keep pressure on them to tell the truth. Keep reminding them of their hypocrisy through emails to journalists, post messages on their blogs, phone calls, whatever you can do.

    As Detroit_Wasp has indicated, this case will boil down to who is selected for the jury as in the OJ Simpson trial.

    If white people do not wake up and start standing together soon then dangerously troubled waters are ahead.

    • Very true. But it’s much harder for the mainstream media to hide things from us that they don’t want us to know about, than it used to be, what with numerous blogs such as AmRen, Human Events, and others, who aren’t afraid to tell it all. Even Fox News has started looking into this black-on-White crime syndrome. And the tone of comments has changed in the past couple of years; I think we Whites may throw off some of our complacency and indifference soon.  It’s coming … Wait for it …

      •  Whites are now in a position to be able to wage a slow war of attrition against the MSM.  Like when a besieging force has to make a ramp of bodies to get over the curtain wall.

  • BO

    The tale we are supposed to understand about Angela Corey is that because George Zimmerman is ‘white’ and Skittles was ‘black’ that she, as a light-skinned mulatto, would be an ideal, and impartial judge of the case.   

    A photograph of Angela Corey.   

    In reality, the Zimmerman case presents us with a very different teachable moment. The tribalism gene in Neolithic peoples is very strong, and is rarely bred out even in quadroons or octroons. The ‘ethics’ that Dershowitz refers to is a human trait developed in an environment of organized agriculture. It is a recessive human trait.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      Eye bleach!  Dear God, please! I need EYE BLEACH!!!

    • refocus

       She is a self hating person of color, evidenced by the fact that her hair has been dyed blond.

  • Periapsis

    What bothers me about this whole affair is had Zimmerman been white like me, and had he shot and killed St. Skittles even if he broke into Zimmerman’s home and went after his family, he could be railroaded right into death row. If evidence was withheld that shows as a growing number of Americans seem to think he was acting in self-defense, then all whites are in grave danger from the darkies on the one hands, their puppetmasters controlling both the government and the legal system on the other. Whites are going to be attacked, injured and killed if he walks or is convicted on lesser charges. The whole purpose of how this case was handled was directed towards that end goal. Had this shooting been handled quietely, without the yellow journalism on the part of the media, Zimmerman would never have been charged in the first place. He could have just as easily have been a white man. defending his wife or daughter from being raped and murdered in their own home or automobile.

    • IstvanIN

      You sir are correct.  Also, Dirtbagowitz only supports Zimmerman because he ISN”T white.

      •  Hmmm, I don’t know about that.  I think simple opposition to prosecutorial misconduct sounds more likely.

      • I bet if a white guy had been caught doing this,Zimmerman’s father would be in the front row demanding his head on a platter. These people are scum but we must defend them.

    • Mutant_Swarm

      In which case, when a White finds himself in a self defense situation under the circumstances you describe, the White should just take care of business because he’s going to jail anyway.  Go down fighting.

      • anarchyst

        Use the same tactic that property owners use against abusive “environmental regulations” . . . “shoot, shovel, shut up”.
        Living in a country setting makes the above described “situation” easier to accomplish, but it can be done anywhere . . .

  •  Times vs Sullivan makes that almost impossible.

    •  To paraphrase Kennedy, those who make lawful redress of grievance impossible make unlawful redress of grievance inevitable.

  • Dershie is a defense  lawyer. Its what he does. he judges and attacks prosecutors for their wrongful conduct every day of the week. In Angela Corey he has seen a textbook case of a cowardly,sleazy,dishonest slimeball . (I also think he doesnt like women,and that adds a bit to it. ) Why step out on this case? Principal? I think the guy who says he doesnt like Obama is right. But will Dershie speak out agaainst that no good son of a gun Holder when he tries to throw George into the cannibals pot????

  • Michael C. Scott

    Good point, Petronius.  My suspicion is that Mike Nifong and the Duke Rape Hoax will cast a very long shadow over this case.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    black man removes knife from package, stabs random white woman in dallas texas target
     http://phillyflashmobsmash.jigsy.com/

    • Church_of_Jed

      TDB (Typical Diversity Behaviour)

  • Greg West

    I am glad that she charged Zimmerman. The BS charge will force all of the truth to come out.
    What will be the benefit is it will show how corrupt The Martin’s, Crump, Julian(PR guy), the media, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barrack Hussein Obamugabe and Eric Holder are.

    This case will be followed by a billion people and Mark O’Mara will have a field day with the prosecution.

    Also the more light that is shined on to the facts of the case will hopefully exonerate Zimmerman in the eyes of the public who were so wrongly lied to by the press, race baiters and our idiots in office and it is this that will potentially make G. Zimmerman safer after the trial.

    I have donated to GZ’s defense fund and I encourage everyone who loves justice to do likewise.

    • Church_of_Jed

      “When it comes to racial politics and the long overdue White Awakening, worse for us is always better for us.”

      -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “Notes from my prayer journal,” 2008

  • refocus

     He works for the state supreme court as a clerk with a big salary and nice fat pension.

  • JackKrak

    Exactly. Trying to explain facts, reason and logic to a black jury? Easier to teach a turtle to play chess.

  •  He is “liberal” until Israel is involved. Then he’s a Nazi.

    This is the first time I have ever agreed with Alan Dershowitz about anything. I loathe the man.

    • anonymous_amren

      In what way is he a Nazi?

    •  Right.  In other words, not liberal at all.  This is not an exceptional pattern.

  • Hmmm:

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illinois/men-charged-in-arson-fires-were-nabbed-at-gunpoint-by/article_f604c35e-a05a-11e1-95cd-0019bb30f31a.html

    The given homeowner is lucky that his two “captives” didn’t have any Skittles or iced tea on them.  He should be really fortunate that they don’t look like they could be sons of Obama.

    Other than that, the stories are very much the same.

  • blindsight

    My speculation about what role if any identity politics may play in Dershowitz’s decision to publicize his views on the Zimmerman case have nothing to do with the case itself, and I have not suggested otherwise. My comment is relevant to core themes of AmRen: social identity, ethnic and racial identity, identity politics.

    My speculation is warranted given Dershowitz’s history of pro-black activism. He has bragged about doing pro bono work for black men on death row who cannot afford attorneys. He coined the term “testilying” to refer to when police lie on the stand, and he specifically stated that most of this lying is done to convict poor black defendants. It’s so unusual for left-leaning people who show as much concern for the rights of blacks as Dershowitz has shown, to make public any views they might hold that could possibly be construed to be in any way unhelpful to blacks. Suggesting that Zimmerman acted in self-defense and implying that he was arrested to avoid race riots is not something we might expect to hear from someone such as Dershowitz. It’s entirely possible that he just wanted some air time and wasn’t concerned if his comments might not please many blacks and many others who like himself lean left. And it’s also possible that his comments can be understood in terms of identity politics, and maybe both motivations are at play as well as others. It’s a relevant question to pose at AmRen.

    Characterizing my comment as you have is as unwarranted as it would be for someone to characterize your comments on things like “the ugly reality of black violence” as “race-baiting.”

  • I think you’re being too pessimistic. I also think the government and legal system are finally becoming aware of the growing anger among the American White population about incidents like this, and are realizing that our patience just might not be limitless.

    And gun and ammo sales are at an all-time high. It ain’t over yet, my friend.

    • You’re absolutely right about firearms sales escalating, WLE. Expect them to increase from now, right up to Election Day.

  • sarah stein

     LaRaza, LULAC, and MECHA are weak and afraid of black people.   And it’s not just Zimmerman.  Cordell Lamar Jude shoots and kills an unarmed, mentally handicapped Daniel Adkins (Hispanic)  from the safety of his car and the Hispanic groups are hiding in a corner, pissing their pants.

  • sarah stein

    A judge will throw him under the bus just as fast as Corey.  Especially if it will keep the blacks from destroying the town.

  • And all those whites who voted for Obama, did so thinking they were buying racial “peace”. That’s why in the aftermath of the Watts riots in 1965, Lyndon Johnson, for the life of him couldn’t understand why the Bantus were rioting – especially after he had signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and all those “Great Society” programs into law.

    If truth be known, I did NOT vote in the 2008 election. I didn’t vote for McCain, because I could never vote for a man who promulgated the infamous McCain-Feingold Act that attempted to squelch free speech. As for Obama, well, I would vote for “Anthony Soprano” as a write-in, before I’d vote for Obama.

    Firearms sales are still increasing and will continue to do so, right up to Election Day. We are going to live in interesting times.

  • Lou

     “As many see it, her additional job is to prevent riots of the sort that
    followed the acquittal of the policemen who beat Rodney King.”

    Unfortunately,  this is exactly what she is doing .

  • Lou

     Sorry Herman, but Zimmerman is not white.. Hispanic isn’t white as far as I know..
    Unless you were being facetious ,then my accept my apologies please..

  • blindsight

    While some whites may “reflexively side with Zimmerman and against Martin in this case,” what motivates many of the whites who speak out about this case is concern over how the mainstream media has turned a case of one person of color killing another person of color into anti-white propaganda. The media has spun this case to fit a preconceived narrative where an “evil white racist racially profiled, then stalked and murdered an innocent, unarmed black child.”

    Whites did not pick this fight; the media and race-card players such as Sharpton and Jackson picked this fight.

  • mikejones91

    Maybe if they do start rioting (They probably will) it will FINALLY open the eyes of the skeptical/oblivious. They have been giving every thing to prosper. We bend over backwards for them. If they start rioting/looting, hopefully it will be the final straw for the average white.

  • blindsight


    Like I said, what’s Israel have to do with the whole Ziimmerman thing?

    I didn’t suggest that Israel has anything to do with it, so why do post such a rhetorical question? My comment is about identity politics in America; my comment has nothing to do with Israel.

    Who gives a rat’s a– what Alan Dershowitz thinks?  I don’t

    Many people who believe as I do that the Zimmerman case has been distorted by the media and mishandled by Corey care what someone who is arguably America’s most highly esteemed law professor thinks about this case. That you don’t give a “rat’s a–” about what Dershowitz thinks is irrelevant, not to mention odd given that you are commenting on a page with an article that is about Dershowitz’s views on the Zimmerman case. Why read such an article if you don’t give a “rat’s a– what Alan Dershowitz thinks”?

    I give a rat’s a– what he thinks because despite my disagreements with him about certain issues, I think his legal reasoning is as sharp as it gets, and I am glad that he has spoken out about this case. It disgusts me that much of the media has chosen to ignore his comments about this case. Had he said instead that he believed that Zimmerman committed murder and a hate crime, the media would’ve made his remarks into headlines.

    The issue has to do with race in America, not personalities or how, by some convoluted and tenuous extention of thinking,  it effects American — Israel politics.

    There is no single issue here that one can limit discussion to by calling it “The issue.” Race in America is but one of a number of issues relevant to this case. Identity politics in America is relevant to this case.

    The underlying suggetion implication that Alan Dershowitz’s loyalties lie with a foregin nation, Israel,and not America.  A common charge levied against the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

    I have not suggested or implied that Dershowitz’s loyalties lie with Israel “and not America,” and I have not made, suggested, or implied the type of “common charge” to which you refer. I have no problem whatsoever with Dershowitz or any other American regardless of whether they are Jewish, supporting Israel. I support Israel, though my sympathies are more in line with the kinds of views expressed in Tikkun and by J-Street (I’m a supporter of both and a member of the latter) than with those who, like Dershowitz, support Israeli’s right-wingers.

    •  Israel has everything to do with racial politics in America.  Exposing YKW “liberal” hypocrisy on Israel is exhibit A.  That’s why I like the idea of White Zionism – Whites seeking for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel.  And Whites defending that quest by pointing to Jewish behavior.

  • drofmanythings

    No other event in recent history has better served the purpose of enlightening the general public of disparities in violent criminality between the races, and at least that is a good thing.

    • mikejones91

      L.A Riots. But I suppose back then people just kind of went along with the oppressed minority bit. Asians usually do fine, some prosper. Indians, for the most part, do fine. Hispanics, somewhat. Blacks, what the hell happened?

      • Church_of_Jed

        “Affirmative action is a racial Bill of Attainder against Whiteness; Diversity is cruel and unusual punishment.”

        -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “The right comment at the right time can bring forth the right kind of racism directed at the right enemy,” 1999

      •  Racialists would have had a field day with the LA Riots, if they’d happened in the Aughties.  Back in the 90s, there was no Internet to speak of.

  • Church_of_Jed

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC said the blacks, women, and gays struggled for rights, and that “those who fight to expand our liberties tend to eventually win the argument.”   That kind of gnostic progressivism pervades our culture.  The argument for minorities ruling the White, male, hetero majority is “won” at our expense, but he didn’ mention that.But why won’t he make the same argument for Israel?  Are the swarms of Africans only fighting to expand the liberties of immigrants in Israel?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_ILLEGAL_MIGRANTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-05-20-05-39-15

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    He says if Israel doesn’t stop it, then “60,000 infiltrators
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    • better_times

      An American schoolboy was asked to handle a blood-encrusted African carved totem figure in the name of Diversity in a U.S. social studies class.  

      The secular, atheistic Israelis will be inviting idol worship into Israel in the name of helping the oppressed. They need to stop assuaging their guilt with this kind of political action. 

      • Church_of_Jed

        Don’t you notice how when articles report that the fast breeding Arabs will swamp the Jews in Israel, nobody calls for Jews in America to move to their Israeli “homeland” to help offset the coming demographic catastrophe?

        Doesn’t it make you suspicious when American Jews demand we support Israel, but they don’t support it enough to move there?  Weird, isn’t it.  What’s up with that?

        • better_times

          Good question! I’m not suspicious though because I know how nutty & fractured Jewish thinking can be.

          American Jews are in every single belief camp on this one.  Some of the very religious black hatter Jews are anti-Zionist & organize huge protests. They believe only God will gather the Jews back to their land & to jump the gun is a sin.  The pro-Israel religious Jews are Republicans on a mission to bring religion to the American non-believers. Some trickle into Israel when they can’t handle the sexual permissiveness of American culture anymore. 
          The secular & atheist conservatives support Israel as the only democracy in the ME. The secular squishy liberals support Israel as the only liberal ( gay rights, women’s rights etc.) state in the ME but don’t support its right to protect itself demographically.  Most of the atheists hate Israel and are NWO useful idiots. The secular left hates Israel & wants it to disappear as a Jewish state.  The secular center supports Israel out of guilt, fuzzy nostalgia & fear that if Shariah becomes the law in the US, Jews will at least have a place to be banished. 
          They don’t actually want to go there. They want to continue leading their non-religious typical American life-style. 

  • Church_of_Jed

    But everybody knows it’s coming, especially the White parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles of the new minority White babies.  So we have ample time to stock up, train,  and prepare.  Given our suffering, calls for “patience, understanding, compassion, reconciliation, and healing” will be ignored.

    “They told me I was supposed to ‘do more’ to help expand liberties for Diversity. I asked them what Diversity was supposed to do for me in return for my concessions. They told me that my embrace of Diversity is my first step toward racial reconciliation and spiritual healing, because I must atone for the sins of segregation by holding myself accountable to the beloved community of color for my unearned White privileges. I told them they could  all go to Hell.”

    -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “Walking with Jesus while remembering Channon Christian, Eve Carson, and Brittny Watts,” 2012

  • Church_of_Jed

    Obama was just angry because he lost a recruit to his Diversity Army:

    “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

  • It’s interesting to see Dershowitz, a true ethnic warrior if there ever was one (he helped cover up the YKW involvement in 9/11, the Israeli vans thing), doing a bit of a change in the expected tack on this one.

    ‘Cause believe me, folks, he ain’t doing this for the White man.

  •  Dershowitz’ background is germane to the discussion, and Israel is germane to Dersh’s background.  This isn’t complicated.

    Stop White-baiting.

  •  Stand Your Ground laws have no bearing here.  They have no bearing when someone is on top of you, pinning you to the ground, beating your head into the pavement.

  •  I think of it as a win-win.  Whites defend Zim under the auspices of anti-black-crime sentiment, and “but for the Grace of God, there go I.”  And if the libtards and blacks succeed in lynching him, well, at least it wasn’t a White man.

  • ageofknowledge

    This young white man did like a BOSS: http://youtu.be/9mqpoPfZkcI