Witnesses Say Racial Slur Could Have Sparked Shooting at Sanford Apartments

Click Orlando, April 16, 2012

Witnesses say a shooting at a Sanford apartment complex that led to one man being arrested and the other critically injured, could have started from a racial comment.

Police said Corey Michael Rose, 30, was in an altercation with Brandon Long at the Cedar Creek Apartments around 5 p.m. Monday.

Witnesses said Long, who is African-American, according to police reports, called Rose, who is white, a racial slur before hitting Rose in the face with his .40 caliber Glock.

“He came from behind the guy and pistol-whipped him and the man was bloody,” said witness Browdy Smith.

Police said Long pointed the gun at Rose. Rose pulled out a gun from his pants and the two hid behind cars. Rose then sought out Long and shot him multiple times, according to the police report.

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Rose has been charged with attempted first degree murder, criminal attempt to solicit conspire and carrying a concealed weapon.

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Witnesses said from what they saw, Rose acting in self-defense.

“I hate to see him go to jail, because that was self defense,” Smith said.

But Sanford Police Sgt. Dave Morgenstern said the chain of events doesn’t exactly point to a self-defense claim.

“It’s not really self defense whenever you go chase the person down who’s hiding behind a car, you go around the car and fire more shots at the person, that’s not self defense,” Morgenstern said.

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  • Pat Riot

    Of course, it cannot be self-defense if it is a white person defending himself.  Doesn’t fit with our new Ingsoc (or should I say AmerSoc) vocabulary.  Thank you, George Orwell.  

    • white_privilege_stigmata

      “Blacks are very aggressive and they feel empowered with one of their own as president and Eric Holder as Attorney General. But what we see now is nothing compared to what we can expect in the future when violence against Whites will go unprosecuted, not just ignored by the media.”

      -Dr. Kevin MacDonald, Occidental Dissent, 2012

      “Did you notice that during all the outpouring of shock, grief, and sadness at UNC over the murder of Eve Carson, not once did you hear screams of outrage and demands for social justice, institutional change, immediate action? The ignorant Whites at UNC simply accepted that her death by Diversity was within the realm of acceptable tragedies, just like getting killed in a car wreck or when smokers die from cancer. Chapel Hill is too close to Durham for any White student to go unarmed. As much as they refuse to admit it, racist hatred isn’t so bad if it saves your life.”

      -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “What Eve Carson’s murder tell us about the blacks,” 2008

      • Anon12

         I still cannot understand the denial by so many Whites of what is REALLY going on in our country. Try to engage one in a conversation about all the black on White crimes and how Obama and Holder even condone it, and they will look at you like you are the most evil racist on earth to even bring it up!  You can give them example after example and they still shut down.

        Most Whites I have talked to before seem to just want to shut their ears and invariably always say, “well, what can we do about anything”, or the ole standby, Whites commit crimes against blacks too, (they have no proof of that one!) they only mouth what the media tells them or they heard it from someone else. Or they say, “oh, I don’t want to hear anymore, I’m too stressed as it is, and don’t want to hear it”….Hell, aren’t we all stressed, especially us racially aware White folk where we see it all and hear it all everyday on our computers?

         They are either too AFRAID to wake up, they are truly wimps or they really are hopeless. Either way, they are a lost delusional people.

        • white_privilege_stigmata

          We need to improve our tactics. Subtlety and timing should guide us. We must first acknowledge that we can’t “wake up” anyone.

          All we can do is deprogram them. We must picture their natural racist instincts as wrapped in layers of anti-White conditioning, and we need to help them gently unwrap those layers themselves, with little nudges and hints from us.

          We take the fast route, because we are in a panic, when we should take the slow route and give others the freedom to express their own panic.

          The main reason Whites won’t speak up about what is bothering them is because they have an image of Klu Kluxing Neo-Nazis in their mind. They don’t want to think or say anything that moves them toward that picutre.

          The best opportunity for the preferred technique is to wait for some extravagant display of TNB or Negro Stupidity to hit the news, and then say, “Isn’t that what you would do?”

          That question gets them thinking about just how different we are from Diveristy.

          We keep hoping that if we express our concerns, that other Whites will hear them and immediately feel free to join in the conversation with their own anxieties and Diversity stories. That doesn’t work. Mostly, we just alienate ourselves by getting called “raciss”.

    • Detroit_WASP

      Now Al Sharpton can have a double lynching of two “white” guys.  Zimmerman and Rose.   God bless America.

  • Rocky Bass

    Just because an assailant, makes a tactical move to cover does not mean he will not pop right back up when your back is shown. Once it’s to pistols you have to put your threat DOWN, then consider an exit.  To have done otherwise is to ask to be shot in the back. I have long said if two break into my house and I have a 30 round mag. Simple math 30/2=15 . I  would tell the perps they were “splitting this mag” too.

  • Rocky Bass

     DYWW – Doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue does it? Defending Yourself While White.
    You do still have an excellent point though.

    • The__Bobster

      It will soon be changed to “breathing while White”.

  • I guess there no such thing as “self-defense” anymore if the person defending himself is white and the other person is black.

    • radical7

      Reverse the Black and White in your sentence and you are correct.

    • Shawn_thefemale

       Nope. Then it’s a (white on black) hate crime.  I’ve long said the only people whites are legally allowed to defend themselves against now are other whites.

      But black, white or striped – you break in my house, the shot will be loud and you’re going to bleed.

  • The bad news: Another White man in Florida facing trumped-up charges for defending himself against a black thug. The good news: The White men are actually starting to fight back.

    • Anon12

       What good is fighting back when they will put the White guy in PRISON for 30 years or more who was merely protecting himself with due cause!  “They” are deliberately doing this to Whites only, so they will never fight back against a black perp and to institute even more draconian gun laws for us honest law abiding Whites to where we will never be allowed to own a gun. This is what is coming and it is plain as day!

      WE had better get out in the streets, start LOUD protests and stop all this insanity NOW and call it what it  Anti-White hatred and their agenda to do away with the White race.  We have to wake up those who will not see what most of us do see happening to our race.  It has become blatant and in your face for the last few years especially and most Whites just twiddle their thumbs.  I do blame these neocons for that. They couldn’t tell racial truths if their lives depended on it.  Hannity, O’Reilly, Levin and Rush haven’t uttered a word over the years about all the horrific crimes blacks commit against Whites. They never call it what it is, either. They are too afraid. All they do is give the stats on black on black and how “bad” that is…Never do they give black on White stats.

      • Impertinent

        The answer is…..thousands of whites…begin to fight back. Shoot back…and reclaim the upper hand.

        • That’s right. Maybe — I hope — Whites are starting to think of themselves as an “endangered majority,” as a distinctive race of people, again. If they are, then that’s the first step on the road toward stopping all these inner city predators who have been preying on us while we cowered and ran for our lives, for the last 40-odd years. The thing that a bully understands, and respects, most, is a good solid punch in the nose.

  • Whiteyyyyy

    Unbelieveable, It’s like blacks are untouchable. Even in the wrong, their in the right. 

    • Impertinent

      ““It’s not really self defense whenever you go chase the person down who’s hiding behind a car, you go around the car and fire more shots at the person, that’s not self defense,” Morgenstern said.”

      Here we go folks…the “gangstas” emboldened by the coward AG’s Corey…the sissie bald queer Gov. Scott….has given the signal to black criminals to have a field day while assassinating whites.
      Pam Bondi…the supposed testerone hindered Attorney General of Florida…has peed her panties over the possibility of arresting black militant thugs ( like the NBPP’s Malik Shabazz ) who have placed a bounty, called for the abduction and murder of an innocent man ( until proven guilty by a jury of his peers ) his OK. “Gangsta”and militant thugs are now allowed to threaten, confront and hunt down white men…for the kid…”trayvon”.

      Let the war begin.

      And watch out all you whites…..”Stand your Ground” will be repealed by the cowards, white hating nuts and POS in Tallahassee.  You are now…soon to be killed…cause it’s not PC…to stand your ground. The “gangsta’s” have won.

  • jackryanvb

    My self defense trainer told me this about what to do in life and death situations where you might be violating some local weapons law:

    “It’s better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6”

    Rose – the White guy is alive, yeah, he’s going to face some rough days ahead, but he’s alive.

  • radical7

    There does seem to be a sudden rash of murderous attacks on Blacks (Black men) throughout the nation lately. The justice department may very well have to intervene to stop such racially motivated violence.. 

  • libertarian4339

    “Police said Long pointed the gun at Rose. Rose pulled out a gun from his pants and the two hid behind cars. Rose then sought out Long and shot him multiple times, according to the police report.”

    According to a more definitive account of this shooting, the black perp hit Rose upside his head with his pistol, afterwhich Rose drew his weapon. The black snapped off a shot as he turned and ran behind a car. 

    Rose went behind another car. 

    I know if I were in Rose’s place I would consider the black a threat to my life if I didn’t neutralize him before he did the same to me, feeling as if I tried to walk away I’d be shot.  I’m guessing here, but Rose probably outmaneuvered the black and was able to shoot first.

    I don’t care what these inept police claim, Rose was perfectly within his rights to shoot the black.  Certainly this wasn’t even remotely murder. This is just another overcharge, because these timid authorities are terrified blacks will riot if they don’t react unfairly towards a white in a racial situation.

    Rose was pistol whipped and shot at.  There’s no reason to expect that black wouldn’t try to kill him again.

    I’m beginning to lose all confidence in these so-called authorities.   In hundreds of black on white obvious racial incidents they say no hate crimes are involved,  in addition to covering up the race of the perps in most cases.  Now they’re leveling obnoxious charges that are totally unjustified.

    It’s self defense all the way.

  • MrGJG

    This is insane. If the tables were turned here and it was the white guy who pistol whipped than pointed a gun at a black guy who than shot and killed the white guy, everybody, including most people here, would say the black guy was 1000% within his rights. People, including idiot white people (idiots because it wouldn’t be returned in kind) would take to the streets if the black guy was charged, and frankly, I’d agree with them. This country just isn’t worth saving anymore and maybe it should just collapse and burn.

  • Impertinent

    ““It’s not really self defense whenever you go chase the person down who’s hiding behind a car, you go around the car and fire more shots at the person, that’s not self defense,” Morgenstern said.”

    Here we go folks…the “nigga gangstas” emboldened by the coward AG’s Corey…the sissie bald queer Gov. Scott….has given the signal to black criminals to have a field day while assassinating whites.
    Pam Bondi…the supposed Tampax hindered Attorney General of Florida…has peed her panties over the possibility of arresting black militant thugs ( like the NBPP’s Malik Shabazz ) who have placed a bounty, called for the abduction and murder of an innocent man ( until proven guilty by a jury of his peers ) his OK. “Nigga” gangster and militant thigs are now allowed to threaten, confront aand hunt down white men…for the kid…”trayvon”.

    Let the war begin.

  • Whiteyyyyy

    It’s getting bad when  a cop says “It crossed the line and wasn’tself defense”. They often shoot people for less. They’re becoming part of the problem.

    • StivD

      Cops only care about other cops.

      • Rocky Bass

         You are right on the money there. An encounter between a civilian and a “law enforcement officer” is several times more dangerous to the civilian then it ever is to the officer.

        • Shawn_thefemale

           I have a son who is one in Houston. He’s no longer the son I knew. I don’t know who he is anymore, but he’s become a flip, arrogant smart a** with an attitude on steroids. I don’t like that person, and I’m sure I wouldn’t like the cop. But the boy I knew isn’t in there anymore.

          • Rocky Bass

             That wasn’t my point exactly but I know what your saying too. I have a friend who is with HPD as well, and when he is in uniform I don’t know him.  Nicest fellow you could meet but as he does the last straightening of his gig line… There is a change in his face and a wholly different vibe exuded from him.

  • Djinn42

    You have to just love the comments at the original article, folks are speaking on that news site like it could be Amren, or really a site that allows comments to be a bit more inflamed, and here I am believing Florida to be lost to the liberal agenda. For once I hope that I am wrong.

    • ncpride

      I’ve noticed that too. The comments on the Pinata story are similar. It gives me a little hope that there are more awakened Whites than I thought out there. The comments are getting harsher and bolder as more and more Whites are just slap fed up with black on White crime, and the double standards when it comes to race in this country. I hope that’s the case anyway…

      • Rocky Bass

         These idiots are just getting so outrageous and blatant about what they’re doing, maybe a backlash is actually possible.

  • No

    QUOTE:  “It’s not really self defense whenever you go chase the person down who’s hiding behind a car, you go around the car and fire more shots at the person, that’s not self defense,” Morgenstern said.

    ………………………..

    That’s true.  That’s called TCB – Taking Care of Bidness.

    Or, as they used to say:  Taking OUT the trash.

  • Rocky Bass

     I could not agree more, once YOU, let the lethal force “genie” out the bottle, God have mercy on you, for I surely won’t.

  • white_privilege_stigmata

    When blacks confirm our stereotypes, aren’t they just committing racial slurs against themselves?

    Weave thieves hit MLK beauty store

    http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/weave-thieves-hit-mlk-1421964.html

  • Rocky Bass

     Amen.
    Just don’t go overboard and calmly walk about (on your own CCTV system) gathering other guns to empty into the “attacker”. Remember the pharmacist that got the robber a while back? I think he was within HIS rights to do what he did, but liberals, later in court, have no spine (unless burning a white that is).

  • Rocky Bass

     I actually had to look up your nick there Mr. Compound angled, orbital vector.
    I like the term “Nifonged”, like being “Nifonged” in the back.
    His name has reached a certain infamy hasn’t it? He is right up there with getting a “Lewinski” now days it seems.

    • Periapsis

      Periapsis is simply the low point of an orbit around a planet, star, or even an asteroid. Unfortuantely, periapsis is also where our race and civilization’s fortunes are.

      • Rocky Bass

         I hope your right, for to be at periapsis would suggest that the orbit would continue back around and out.
        Hard to not view our current position as being a ballistic trajectory rather than an orbit, in which case we should be meeting our shadow soon.

  • The Black Hate Group (local governments) will now look for ANY EXCUSE to persecute whites.

    No charges for the black guy making the “ethnic intimidation slur?” AND using a gun? ~NOPE~

    As whites increasingly use firearms to protect themselves the LIBERAL POWER will fight back.
     

  • J.P.

    Whats especially odd about this Man’s arrest is that this is an even more obvious case of self defense then the St. Skittles and Zimmerman case. Yet it took massive media pressure and black threats to have Zimmerman arrested. This time they didn’t even hesitate. So the political motivation is crystal clear, there is simply no justice for Whites. We are basically Helots for the blacks now, we take care of their every need and want and they are free to rape and kill us at will.

    I also still am wondering what Rose conspired and solicited. Did he conspire to have this thug pistol whip him? Did he solicit the thug to shoot at him?

  • ncpride

    I must say, after an experience with them a few years ago I don’t trust them as much either. I had been pulled over for a simple traffic violation, when I was suddenly  surrounded by 2 more cops. I had my kids in the back, and one obviously undercover cop commented something to the effect of.. ‘Look, she doesn’t even have her kids in seat belts’. That was too much for for me, so I looked him directly in the eye and told him for his information, my kids DID have their seat belts on prior to my being pulled over, but they thought they were SUPPOSED to get out of the car when being pulled over, until I screamed at them to stay put least thay be shot. I preceeded to tell him he didn’t know sh!t about me or my kids, and he could take his assumptions and shove them.. well you get the idea. I actually got an apology from him.

  • Rocky Bass

    It surely would be sad if the hesitation these leftists are trying to cause does in fact result in more dead whites. Don’t hold your breath awaiting any apologies when stories of dead whites, their guns in reach, start piling up.(Ain’t werkin on me)
    Like I have said before, I have shot a burglar in my family’s garage, and held him for the police. Just grazed him and the cops could not find where the bullet eventually ended up. One officer finally told me “if you smell anything funny in the next few days, check on your neighbors” and that was it. Texas used to be a lot cooler than I fear it is now.
    PS added in edit: And yes the burglar looked just like Obama’s Son.

  • Rocky Bass

     That depends on which 8″ appendage and who is doing the carrying and where we are going.

  • Rocky Bass

    I am with you on this. From the time it became a FIRE FIGHT, it’s like a row of dominoes there is no other logical path of events.
    An exit strategy with your armed opponent ready to re-engage your back, is just suicide by thug.

  • Impertinent

    “I hope whites will have more kids..”

    Maybe that’s a very, very LONG TERM solution to the problem. However…we DO NOT have the luxury of waiting another 30 years…when the stats and census say..we WILL BE the MINORITY.

    In other words…we will be guilty of turning our country over to 3rd and 4th world scum…who will have bled us dry by then….or hunt us down with impunity and with the backing of Eric Holder and his Kenyan fraud…his “pseudo African – American” Bro….Obama.