Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

Stephanie Pappas, Yahoo! News, January 26, 2012

There’s no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

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“They’ve pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics,” said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. “When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it’s bound to upset somebody.”

Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience. {snip}

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Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured. {snip}

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Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as “Family life suffers if mum is working full-time,” and “Schools should teach children to obey authority.” Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as “I wouldn’t mind working with people from other races.” (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson’s work can’t speak to this “underground” racism.)

As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.

People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.

“This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice,” said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.

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“Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order,” Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. “Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice.”

In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. {snip}

Hodson and Busseri’s explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn’t conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you’d have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren’t possible.

The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like “every kid is a genius in his or her own way,” might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

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Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group’s point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

“There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners,” Hodson said. “Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups,” rather than thoughts.

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  • Considering that the most dogmatic racists are black, this study confirms the Bell Curve. 

    • I’ve never read the Bell Curve but seems to me, all one needs to do is look Eastward to see who is Right and who is Wrong.

      I don’t mean to be short, it’s just, East is Backward and West is Forward from what I’ve garnered.

  • Ottawa4000

    This explains why blacks are the most homophobic and racist people (racist toward Whites, Asians and Hispanics) that I have ever met.

  • Anonymous

    Like Newt Gingrich, I have hundreds of thoughts swimming in my head after reading this article, any of which I could tangentially expand upon for paragraphs to the boredom of everyone here.  So let me say this…

    I wonder which political bloc would answer in the affirmative to this question.  “Are whites, on average, more intelligent than blacks?”  I’d place quite a bit of money that people who self-identify as “conservative” would do so at higher rates than those self-identifying as “liberal.”  And, unlike the subjective issues (like homosexuality) the above study addresses, it can be factually proven that whites on average (IQ = 100) are much smarter than blacks (IQ = 85).  The question thus becomes, is it liberals who neglect facts and hard evidence due to their emotional attachments to a specific worldview (i.e. egalitariansm)?

  • Anonymous

    Ah, now I understand. IQ cannot be linked to anything silly like race or genes. It’s all in one’s political affiliation.

  • This study should take in experience dealing with people.  I grew up in a “Lily White Town” in CA.  I had no idea what prejudice or racism was.  I did feel for the blacks because I thought they were dumb.  I have no idea where I got that thought except maybe my Grandmothers missionary magazines which always showed the Africans living in huts and dressing funny.
    When I joined the Army in 1969 I still had no ill feelings toward any race.  While in the Army I came in contact with the Black Panthers in Germany.  I came to absolutly hate even the site of a black person.  Then my so-called girlfriend dumped me for a black man.  I hated them for 40 years until I went to the VA and enrolled in a PTSD group.  I discovered that half of the men there had the same exact idea I had.  I learned that I no longer needed to hate them.  I am free from hatred but I do not ever want to live with them, near them or be around them.  It’s not hatred just common sense.  I know they hate us more than we hate them.  I look at it as “free association”.  Something we all should be able to live with instead of the government forcing  their ideas on us. 
    JFK was quoted as saying in a recently released tape.  “After all it is we who are forcing the Negro on the white people.”

    • La Santa Hermandad

      Mark H,
      Just out of curiosity, did you ever hear anything about your ex girlfriend’s  future after taking up with a Mau Mau?  If that had happened to me, I would like to think that I wouldn’t have given  a damn about what became of her. I guess that it would have depended on how deep my original feelings for her were.
      I’d wager that it ended badly as do most relationships between White Females and Black “Men”. 

  • B

    Knowledge of the very disproportionate level of violent predatory behavior by blacks leads to prejudice. 

    • Anonymous

      I came to the same conclusion as the writer of that story. 

  • Anonymous

    The old Soviet bloc, end even today’s EU, had a tactic whereby anybody who disagreed with them was considered to suffer from ‘mental illness’. Looks like today’s liberal pro-diversity crowd are trying the same tactic. But explain this, I have a MENSA tested IQ if 116, yet I’m definitely a rac(real)ist.

  • Anonymous

    For years, the left has told us that IQ was a racist myth. Now they tell us it’s real and measurable.

    Since blacks have lower IQ’s than whites, that means blacks are conservative racists.

    • This is the same tact used in certain criminal defenses; i.e. a black criminal had a very low IQ.  Oh, now IQ matters and will be used to persuade a court to grant leniency!

  • Anonymous

    But there’s all the difference in the world between believing blacks are, on average less intelligent; and believing a single individual must be unintelligent because he happens to be black.

    Prejudice means PRE-judgement, of an individual on the basis of something like race.
    Believing that blacks are on average less intelligent, is a POST-evidentiary judgement, based on a lifetime of experience and reading the likes of Jensen.

    Making pre-judgements about anything is a sign of low IQ.
    Failing to notice the conclusions of a lifetime of experience, shouldn’t be considered a high one.

    • I wouldn’t say that making pre-judgements about anything is a sign of low IQ.  If you face an unknown circumstance you’re going to do the best you can.  I suppose repeating the pre-judgement – if it didn’t yield a good outcome – might be low IQ.  But since low IQ people probably group together I suspect a large dose of socialization.

  • Anonymous

    The fact is that most prejudice is rooted in limited edcuation and ignorance.

    • Anonymous

      Or perhaps it is rooted in experience, common sense and reality!

  • Anonymous

    I would say that my initial response is correct.

  • As I read this libtard propaganda, I was reminded of this famous hoax that the MSM spread in 2004 without once challenging it:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp

    • Mississippi is said to have an average IQ of 85, and Connecticut an average IQ of 113.  In order for that to be true, MS has to have a virtually all black population, and CT must have zero minorities and its white people have to have an average IQ almost a whole standard deviation above the national white mean.  We know CT has minorities, from all the Latino-Hispanic CT stories here on AR in the last few days.

      • Marcy Fleming

        First of all, where do you get your figures here ? Mississipi has the highest percentage of Blacks in the country, 36%. Only DC is higher and they are not a state. Connecticut is a braindead PC leftist stronghold.
        My IQ tested at 148 and I KNOW Blacks are inferior.
        Yahoo News is leftist trash as I know from 11 years at Yahoo email before I switched due to their lousy service.

      • Marcy Fleming

        First of all, where do you get your figures here ? Mississipi has the highest percentage of Blacks in the country, 36%. Only DC is higher and they are not a state. Connecticut is a braindead PC leftist stronghold.
        My IQ tested at 148 and I KNOW Blacks are inferior.
        Yahoo News is leftist trash as I know from 11 years at Yahoo email before I switched due to their lousy service.

      • Anonymous

        Those numbers seem a bit off. The stats I saw say CT was around 100 and MS 94.

  • Anonymous

    IQ is one topic that comes up frequently on this website.  However, I feel it is used too literally.  There is a pretty wide margin of error, I think, which is highly subjective.

    Every measurement has an uncertainty.  For example, the IQ difference between Europeans and Africans is obvious and substantial.  The difference between Europeans and Orientals less so, but still there and widely distributed.

    What really bothers me, and why I frequent this website, is just to get a breath of fresh air.  I believe the races were meant to exist separately and peacefully.  I see the Hispanics and blacks as a destructive and pernicious influence in a white land.  All-black cities like East St. Louis, Detroit, New Orleans, and Philadelphia are a shameful mark on the USA.  At least the Asians pull their own weight here.

    I mean seriously, people wouldn’t complain about discrimination if it didn’t have a chance to occur.

  • Bardon Kaldian

    Prejudice- a bias against a group of people – has nothing to do with IQ. Actually, it’s something emotional & completely disconnected from mental powers. For instance:

    + Aristotle- racist
    + Isaac Newton- virulent anti-Catholic, thought Catholics were “heathens” and all going to hell
    + Voltaire- anti-Semite
    + Karl Marx- racist, anti-Semite
    + Richard Wagner- Francophobe, anti-Semite
    + Victor Hugo- Germanophobe
    + Joseph Conrad- racist
    + Edgar Degas- anti- Semite
    + Augustin Cauchy- vitriolic anti-Protestant & anti-secularist
    + T.S. Eliot- anti-Semite, racist
    + Fyodor Dostoevsky- anti-Semite
    + David W. Griffith- racist
    + Walt Whitman- soft white supremacist
    + Jack London- racist
    + Friedrich Nietzsche- racist
    + Charles Darwin- racist
    + Francis Galton- racist
    + James Watson- racist (according to “modern” criteria)
    + T.A. Edison- racist
    + A. Graham Bell- racist
    + …

    • La Santa Hermandad

      Bardon,
      Are you sure about Karl Marx. He was a Jewish by ethnicity.

      • Marx was Jewish, but that didn’t stop him from espousing “anti-Semitic” views.

        Bardon, your list could have included:

        George Patton – racist

        Albert Schweitzer – racist

        Che Guevara – racist

        Emperor Hirohito – racist

    • This is the garbage of the term ‘racist’.

      It is been used to define white people who have a racial identity, believe race is important to who they are, care about those interests and make selection and decisions based on the fact.

      So of course the ‘anti-racists’ find racism everywhere– because they HATE any people who care about race and are conscious of it–particularly those whites who threaten their status.   Such awareness interferes with their ability to control the dialogue and achieve status at the expense of others.  Anti-racism is one of the most despicable positions to take–full of envy and spite for people’s freedom.

  • (From the article)…….. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like “every kid is a genius in his or her own way,” might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
    I’d agree with this last statement, and I think that ‘the truth does live someone in between the right and left wing worlds.
    I think that living in a country or region that was run under the rule of any extremist (including the militant racial right wing) would be hell on earth, but before you jump on me for saying that accusing me of being soft, weak or indoctrinated,  think for a moment about whose definition of the racial right wing we’re talking about exactly and would you ‘make the cut’ yourself?
    My background is Irish/Scottish/Prussian (German) but I was raised a Catholic, so thirty-forty years ago I wouldn’t have ‘made the cut’ myself even though I’m a blue eyed boy, our politics surely must mirror the times.
    For instances if the Stormfront types ran the show, I think you’d find a whole lot of us Amreners instantly becoming left wingers in contrast to their extreme beliefs.
    And really is having a right wing fascist telling you how to live your life really any better than having a left wing fascist telling us how (like we do now) any better?

    My ‘racism’/racial conservatism is a reaction to the balant anti-White racism that runs rampant in the Western World, we Whites truly are the invisible and mute, anti-group who only exist when it comes time to officially discriminate against us. 
    I wish for no tyrannical ‘final solution’ or forced sterilization policy as a solution to our problems, I’d rather we’re were simply given the opportunity actively choose (discriminate) who we live with and work with, if we’re all equal after all, what does it matter if we choose to separate.
    Even on the immigration issue, by having a racially egalitarian view of all immigrates creates a ‘us vs them’ dynamic where it’s the foundation stock (i.e.Whites who founded this particular ‘White nation’) vs ‘all immigrants’ from a Japanese brain surgeon to a Somali pirate, which is another type of extreme (or binary, black/white) way of looking at the situation without acknowledging the racial hierarchy, because not all outer groups share the exact same characteristics. So we get a situation where you have highly educated Indians fighting for the immigration door to left open on behalf of ALL immigrates. So we have the smart outer groups defending the criminal prone outer groups, at all of our expense.
    Saying that there is no racial hierarchy and that there is only an economic or class
    hierarchy, just opens the door for the egalitarian theorists say that economic disparities which exist along racial lines must be due to racism/discrimination, as no other explanation can fit into their mold. 

    How I wish we could turn back the clock and stop all of this mess ever starting, but hey we’ve got to look at the here and now and be realistic, and work towards being recognized as a legitimate group, with a valid voice as a start. Splintering off to create your own doomsday bunker is a pessimists back up plan, I’m not saying “don’t do it”, but we have to walk forward into the mess head held high too, edging our bets on the Western world potentially not collapsing. 

    When I first discovered Amren, I don’t mind admitting that I was less informed and more ignorant to the nuisances of racial politics, and to be frank when living in the world of the uninformed, my ignorance turned to frustration, which became emotional anger. 
    In same ways having access to Amren has galvanized some of  my views, but it has softened most others which would probably shock those who’d want to shut sites like this down.
    Thrown back into the darkness of ignorance but those who’d censor us, I’m sure frustrated anger would again be the result. 
    When we come on here and vent our most frustrated power fantasies on line, it feels good (guilty as charged here), but we have to be realistic and remember what we’re aiming for, recognition and equality, as we have neither right now.
    Again this is not a me wimping out, but I have to ask “where are the medieval battlefields now” where we can bury an ax in our enemies head, they are gone, the current battlefield is in the minds and hearts of the our people.  
    The people who we’re trying to protect ourselves from are still battling now ‘medieval style’ on our public streets, trains, buses, restaurants and schools and they’re losing the hearts and minds of ‘our people’ for it, we need to do better ourselves. 

    • Anonymous

      Sorry, I do not want to be recognized as a minority group everywhere on the face of the earth.  I want what my people built.  I want to be the majoirty someplace.  Being the minority means being white in Zimbabwe, which mean eventual extinction.  We need our homelands back.

      • I don’t want minority status in anyway what so ever either, but as you know all the demographic indicators show how fast we’re heading towards it.
        Either we breed more or completely stop the other guys coming to the West and breeding. Thanks to the entrenched cultural Marxism that prevails throughout our entire academic,political and business systems I see no gains in either of the fore mentioned areas
        Revolution, secession, a complete break down of the financial system, a grass roots democratic turn around, invasion, a 911 type moment.
        I don’t know what it’s going to take to turn all this around.
        My long winded post above was never going to appeal to any hard liners here, as it is a moderate race realist’s viewpoint.
        The ignorant conservative theme of the original article compelled me to try and  illustrate that we race realists are normal and open minded people too and that all of the forced social changes that we’re enduring are likewise forcing our hands
        politically to extremism.
        Globally we already know that we’re the minority, in our respective countries we currently are holding onto majority status, but what benefits is that getting us exactly and what power do we have to wield?
        All surveys of ‘the people’ always show that the majority are anti immigration, but again it doesn’t stop anything. Once every three or four years we get to line up and go into a little booth and pretend that our vote means something, then sit back and watch over the elected period as (whom ever politician) goes back to making shady back room deals to sell us all out.What we want and where we’re at, are two completely different places.I’m just trying to pragmatically look at the ‘baby steps’ required to get from ‘here to there’ to become a majority/majority ethno-political force, not the minority/majority sect that we are now.

        • Bardon Kaldian

          Stop the immigration. It’s doable. One can do it  completely (Japan) or keep it acceptably low (Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland, ..) 

  • Anonymous

    What I suspect is that the researchers are composing statements that are over simplified, and more likely for a person with a low IQ to agree with, and defining the statements as as conservative and racist. 
     
    In the United States few people are likely to say they are racist, but more people label themselves as conservative than liberal.
     
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/Conservatives-Remain-Largest-Ideological-Group.aspx 

    It would be interesting to compare average IQs of those who say they are liberal, or conservative. My guess is that the liberals would be slightly better educated, but that the conservatives would have more practical knowledge, and that the IQ differences would be statistically insignificant.

  • Anon

    From where I sit, it is those who are NOT prejudiced or racist and or try to cover it up, that has the low IQ and are dumb as rocks.

  • I disagree with this completely.

    Bashing makes one Prejudice.

    At first, you listen to all these people telling you how automatically bad you are because you’re White and then, you look at yourself and say, what did I do?  After examination, you come to the conclusion that you’ve done nothing you haven’t already paid for and then you begin to feel a little resentful over being blamed for things you had nothing to do with.

    Outright Lies makes one Prejudice.

    When you’re constantly being told how evil the White Man is and all the evil they committed against the poor minorities and then you find out that a good deal of it is false and the rest has been blown way, way, way out of proportion, you then question the Integrity, Honesty, Ethics and Morals of those who spread these lies and yes, the non-whites who go along with it and after that, a little resentment begins to set in.

    Double Standard makes one Prejudice.

    White People cannot even be Free to Associate with their Fellow White People without being “racist” but non-whites can.  White People cannot just hire their own but non-whites can.  Non-whites are allowed to promote their Race, their Language, their Culture but White People can’t.  The Double Standard goes on longer and deeper than any Sea or Ocean you can name and you know what comes from it?  Resentment.

    Violence makes on Prejudice.

    To feel unsafe on a constant basis, on the Street, in the Store, traveling by Public Transportation, in your very own home and all due from a non-white majority crime rate, it tends to lean one towards yes, resentment toward a folk whom tend to represent a larger share of the crime committed.

    Being overwhelmed makes one Prejudice.

    To take a Peaceful People and Country and then FORCE upon them, peoples and cultures that are UTTERLY OPPOSITE of ours and then proceed to tell us that it is us, The Natives who must change in order to suit, what is to many to be, the invader, does indeed cause resentment.

    There’s about a Ton of Reasons as to what makes one Prejudice and every single one of them is Right and every single White Person who is Prejudice is Rightfully So.

  • Anonymous

    This is what I have believed for many years!

     That is, I have always suspected that the “open minded” pseudo intellectual liberals secretly believe they are smarter than everyone else.   These people tend to be more “artsy fartsy”  than logical or scientific in their thinking.  Actual facts and data confuse them.

    They believe they are smarter simply because they are more accepting of blacks even though the only experience they have with blacks is watching re-runs of The Cosby Show on cable TV.  The quickist way to cure them is to force them to move to an all black neighborhood or send their kids to a school that is at least 50% black.  Reality has a way of erasing fairy tales!  
     
    These liberals have drank the Kool-aid of political correctness and their beliefs of equality remind me of a religious view that says you should believe something (with zero proof) simply because someone says it is so.   This is the type of person that says,  “Facts be damned, the planet is only 4,000 years old.”   So, we end up with people that say,  ” data be damned, blacks are just as smart as whites and if YOU don’t think so, YOU must be the stupid one!” 

  • I have recently discovered my own incredible bias after reading articles like this one.

    I hear or read the word “racist” and I automatically picture a bald-headed, tattooed, young white man. This automatic response was bashed into my brain since childhood by the media and public education despite the fact that the only virulent racism I have ever witnessed or experienced was at the hands of violent black girls.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with this article. Blacks are anti-white ,and they have low IQ’s. It must be true.

  • Anonymous

     the people with the highest iqs are the mobs of primitive blacks seen randomly beating and throwing chairs from the food court at each other in malls  all over the u.s.a. they only scored a 75 on the test because the test is RACIST AND CULTURALLY BIASED even though it involves arranging simple patterns, repeating basic sentences back word for word and other things that require no prior knowledge or skills.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have very accurately identified the explanation for the paradoxical findings of the author.  People with a somewhat higher than average IQ are most susceptible to racial propaganda currently prevalent in America, especially if they are otherwise incurious. 
    Their fairly large numbers can misleadingly skewer the statistics toward a higher  IQ for those who don’t think blacks are less intelligent or more violent.  These people are more insulated from the lower class more violent blacks, and don’t have a reality based refutation of the mindless dishonest indoctrination they are being force fed.  If you are more intelligent, and have only contact with more gifted blacks, and all news is selectively biased in favor of blacks, and you read a limited amount, you will fit the author’s view of not being “prejudiced”.   If you are somewhat less intelligent and live in a rougher part of town, you will have a more accurate view of blacks, which the author will categorize as more “prejudiced”.  Furthermore, the author equates having a negative view of blacks generally as prejudice, which is a fallacy in itself.  Prejudice is inaccurately pre- judging a group.  If there is proof that blacks have 7 times the murder rate, and 14 times the rape rate of whites, and a 15 point lower IQ, then a negative view is in no way prejudice, but instead a realistic appraisal.  The confused mis-analysis by the professor, in all probability to mislead,  self impugns his professional integrity. 

  • Anonymous

    I have done three IQ tests in my ife and ranged from 136 to 144. I hold a Phd in Computer Science and run a small company. I am also a committed race realist. Noone asked me to take part in this study.

    You can deliberatly rigg any study. Pondering the motives of someone who would carry out such a study can give you an insight into their desired outcome.

    • You mean like taking something that does not exist (in the way they intend) into something that does?

      Seeing through them is easy.  Look at yourself is all one needs to do.

      You can belong to the most Pro-White (racist) Group you want to and I can still, for the most part, guarantee that should you take a look at yourself, you will find that you have not done anything to any non-white that could possibly be deemed as “racist” in Webster’s Dictionary Terms.

      Please, please don’t tell me Webster doesn’t count.

  • Bardon Kaldian

    Irony is a foreign concept to many, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    This from the same people who will tell you that IQ is a meaningless, hopelessly biased concept that proves nothing (except that certain death row inmates should be spared).

    • http://www.innocenceproject.com  The Innocence Project.

      I am against The Death Penalty for two reasons:

      First, Innocent People and Second, let those who Deserve to Rot, Rot.  Prison is not a kind sort of Life so May they Live Forever in the Very Volatile and Violent Home they chose for themselves.

      Innocent – Many a White Man has been Unduly put to Death and this, I cannot accept.

      • I support the death penalty.

        First, guilty murderers.

        Second, innocent prison guards.

        Third, innocent people whom the executed murderer can’t possibly murder if he escapes from prison.

        Fourth, witnesses in criminal cases.

        If you want to use the death penalty as little as possible, fine.  But the death penalty should still be on the books and still be an applicable punishment to protect prison guards, innocent denizens of towns near prisons, and criminal case witnesses.

        • Escapes.  I forgot.  I’m sorry.

          I’m not that against it BUT, and not to exclude Victims here, it’s The Innocent White People that I can’t get over.

          I extend this to non-whites as well because for me, to pay for what you do not owe, is just wrong in my humble opinion.

  • Anonymous

    Once you get over your knee jerk reaction, the study may be part right. The republicans have always been the stupid party. there is no other explanation for a party that consistently elects  and re elects candidadtes that refuse to do anything about massive unending 3rd world immigration that will inexorably erase them as sure as the sun rising. The republicans have become a party that only cares about lowering taxes for the rich and ending welfare and medicare for the poor. I know there are other things but those two things make up the overwhelming majority of their concerns. Immigration, which will doom them demographically, and make taxes and entitlement reform seem a quaint idea once we become Mexifornia, is almost never a serious topic.

     As far as tolerance, the study should recognize there is two sides to every coin. I think Conservatives have been too tolerant, and the lack of tolerance on the progressives side for ideas that go against their own is unequalled.

    • The republicans have become a party that only cares about lowering taxes
      for the rich and ending welfare and medicare for the poor.

      We’ve had plenty of Republican Presidents and Congresses.  Yet Medicare is so here.  As far as your other point, have you ever heard of the Laffer Curve?

      I guess we all failed or ditched Econ 101 today.

      But I liked your comment for the immigration point it made.

      • Republicans seem to have this “magnificent obsession” about electing a rock-ribbed true-blue consrvative as president. Suppose Newt Gingrich is the nominee. Do you really expect him to carry California, New York or New Jersey in the election? Heck, Reagan couldn’t be elected governor of CA today, given that state’s demographic makeup.

        • No Republican will ever win California, New York or New Jersey ever again.  Once Texas and Florida become demographically out of reach for Republican Presidential candidates, that will be just about it for the Republican Party.

      • Anonymous

        I heard of the Laffer Curve in conjunction with the tripling of the national debt under Ronald Reagan. It says bad things about the Republican Party that many Republicans believe that tax cuts generate more tax revenue than tax increases. 

        • Marcy Fleming

          I agree and the great thing about tax cuts is MUCH LESS revenue for government. Laffer was trying to defend individualism on a collectivist-statist basis and that never works.
          If there is only ONE book every one could read on political economy it should be Economic Controversies by Murray Rothbard, available from Amazon.
          Bush 2 and now Obama even more have soared the national debt out of sight, it will never be repaid and one day will be repudiated as the whole economy & society crashes.
          After his first tax cut, Reagan & Bob Dole put forth three huge tax increases. The USSR was internally collapsing bigtime by the 70s
          according to Gorbachev because central planning and command economies never work. Even in Sweden 95% of all industry has always remained private and it’s the only reason they at one time could seem to afford a vast welfare state. See The New Totalitarians by Roland Huntford, 1970.
          The only thing more hypocritical than a Repub giving bogus reasons for tax cuts is Dems moaning the national debt ! As Harry Hopkins said, tax & tax, spend & spend, elect & elect.
          I want to thank the brave folks who took the time to refute that Chinaphile, anti-white racist earlier. China has a failed culture going back thousands of years. Ralph Townsend’s 1932 book, Ways That Are Dark, is a great intro to what it was like well before WW2. Since then Mao’s policies killed 110 million people in 27 years AND only by imitating the West have they dug themselves out of the Maoist rathole.

          • Anonymous

            Marcy Fleming, 

             You seem to think that tax cuts will lead to a crushing debt that will in turn lead to economic chaos that libertarians will successfully exploit in order to restore laissez faire capitalism. A true conservative is one who cares about the health of American society and the American economy. If I read you correctly, yours is not a conservative perspective. Nevertheless, you might be right. 

            On the other hand, an economic collapse may cause the United States to swing to the left. A large and probably growing minority of Americans prefer socialism to capitalism.

             http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/young-people-socialism_n_1175218.html  

             http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewed-Positively-Americans.aspx  

            http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2009/just_53_say_capitalism_better_than_socialism

  • the watcher

    I have been tested as having an IQ in the  Mensus range of 145 to 150 yet like many here I find blacks to be a particularly vile, angry, obnoxious, loud, tempetuous, racist, etc race of man that one should stay away from as they are very prone to violence, as it seems to be a natural part of their culture(s) wherever sub-Saharan blacks go. 

  • Guest 18

    Supposing every word is true, and remembering IQ can be lowered (trauma & disease) but not raised, this article solves the problem of racism. It’s not a problem, it’s just something that happens. High IQ people can get along well enough, low IQ people can keep to their own kind (whatever that means). Sounds like… the world.

  • Lasvegas201165

    It would be nice to have the IQ tests of the liberal racist idiot who wrote this nonsense never naming any global studies such as the Bell Curve and all the other clearly documented reports over the decades notwithstanding the real racists who are currently occupying the WH and AG slot among other including the Congressional Black Caucus and all the cities run by racist minorities. Racism is a 2 way street but liberals own and run all the media as is clearly known.

  • Anonymous

    I think this test, http://www.scribd.com/doc/77349055/Coming-Apart-by-Charles-Murray-Quiz is tangentially related to the points brought up here.  There is a huge schism in White America as demonstrated by the IQ article and findings shown by Murray in his upcoming  book. 

    If you take the above and mix in the info from here, http://www.the-american-interest.com/article.cfm?piece=1183, you will have a treatise on where the modern white world is probably going to go.  Probably a mash up of  Mr. Taylor and Mr. Buchanan’s latest books. 

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how we explain so many buying into progressive lies while feeling superior.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Since when do “cognitive” psychologists or sociologist get to set public policy?  A lot of misinformation, outright lies and VERY bad laws and policies have come about from fancy “psychological” or “sociological”studies and lofty academic or judicial opinions.  

    Remember Brown vs. Board of Education?

    Black psychologist Kenneth B. Clark reported that nine out of sixteen Black children from segregated schools in South Carolina preferred to play with a white rather than a black doll. Clark did not mention that his study of desegregated black children found the same phenomenon. But citing this crude experiment as ‘modern authority,’ the Supreme Court decided that the segregation of Black pupils imposed upon them “a feeling of inferiority… that may affect their hearts and minds in a way unlikely ever to be undone.”

    Results have been disastrous.

    Remember school busing? 

    In Brown, Chief Justice Earl Warren claimed that segregation is psychologically harmful to black children and implied that all-black classrooms are inherently inferior. Warren’s opinion opened the door for lower courts and lawmakers to being ordering forced school busing in the name of social justice and racial equality.

    The results were disastrous.

    @loyalwhitebriton: : 

    The old Soviet bloc, and even today’s EU, had a tactic whereby anybody who disagreed with them was considered to suffer from ‘mental illness’. 

    Don’t think this is not going on in the US as well!  Opposed to same sex marriage?  You are homophobic, which is abnormal and a sign of mental illness (so says the left).  Opposed to miscegenation?  You are abnormal and mentally ill (so says the left).  Opposed to forced integration? To urban blacks being placed into YOUR neighborhood or children’t school?  You are mentally ill (so says the left).  Don’t like massive Third World immigration?  You are abnormal, low IQd and mentally ill!  Opposed to White displacement and White genocide?  You are abnormal and mentally ill!!  

    For 50+ years, Marxists have been shoving down our throats the notion that it is human nature and normal for us Whites to want and desire multi-cultualism, integration, massive non-White immigration and race-mixing .  What is psychologically abnormal (they tell us) and a sign of low IQ, is to reject massive non-White immigration and forced integration and desire to be with one’s own kind.

    Of course, this only applies to WHITES and WHITE culture, no one else.

    The ones saying this live and work nowhere near blacks or hispanics.  

    Their goal is the destruction of Whites and White culture, there is no other explanation.

    Marxists will use the “mental illness” argument  to explain away Whites wanting to preserve their culture, heritage, language, and the countries they created.  They tell us that it is perfectly normal and natural for humans to love and enjoy “cultural diversity” and “multiculturalism.” Something they themselves do not practice in their everyday lives.

     Then to “prove” their point, they’ll trot out articles such as the above to show us how WRONG we are to want to preserve our White heritage, that such heritage and culture are inherently evil and anyone who wishes to preserve such is mentally ill.

    Don’t fall for it!  Our culture and heritage are under attack, our living spaces are being wrested from us.  There is nothing natural or normal about wishing for one’s own genocide.

    Bon

    • Anonymous

      specific policies based on premises that conflict with scientific truths about
      human beings tend not to work. Often they do harm.              
                                        
      – Charles Murray, from “The Inequality Taboo”                 
                                 
      http://www.bible-researcher.com/murray1.html                              
                                                
                       

    • Anonymous

      In Brown, Chief Justice Earl Warren claimed that segregation is psychologically harmful to black children and implied that all-black classrooms are inherently inferior.                                                               
      – Bon, From the Land of Babble                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                             
      ————-                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                             
      Integration is physically harmful to minority children, when the majority in their school is black.           

  • Bardon Kaldian

    This was a joint work by Frankfurt school emigres, as I recall (Theodor Adorno, Max Horkheimer,..). Being para-marxist by ideological affiliation & having fled from Hitler-  it’s understandable that from their point of view, only “right” was “bad”.

  • Anonymous

    It’s  common knowledge among the liars in academia and Washington that they can provide a study for any point of view that will support it.  They are able and willing to twist a view in any manner possible no matter how ludicrous it might sound to someone with real intelligence.  And, if what they try to get you to believe is dismissed as nonsense, they respond, not with substantive rebuttal, but insults and name calling.  They have to in order to have a reply, because what they always espouse sounds as if it came from the mouth of a child or someone mentally ill.  That’s hardly a display of intelligence.

    The fact is that some liberals are accomplished in their chosen fields, because some of them can learn subject matter easily enough, but they’re ill-equipped to think on a logical,  broader scale than what they’ve learned inside the box.  Too, many of them are so handicapped with airhead visions and imaginary theories it’s obvious they have no understanding of what the real world is all about. 

    Conservatives might entertain those same theories, but can so readily see the silliness of them they rightly dismiss them as nonsense.  But, the liberal has some kind of perversity of thought wherein he convinces himself his lundicrous mental meanderings give him special insight which, to him, translates into intelligence, when they are no more than the products of various mental disorders that make him out to be some kind of clownish fool.

    Every fool, fop, nincompoop and idiot,  who entertains liberal fantasies loves to think his bizarre mental inadequacies are proof of his intelligence, instead of legitimate evidence that he’s laboring under some kind of mental disorder.

    It is as they say:  Liberals have both feet planted firmly in the air.

     

     

  • Anonymous

    It’s  common knowledge among the liars in academia and Washington that they can provide a study for any point of view that will support it.  They are able and willing to twist a view in any manner possible no matter how ludicrous it might sound to someone with real intelligence.  And, if what they try to get you to believe is dismissed as nonsense, they respond, not with substantive rebuttal, but insults and name calling.  They have to in order to have a reply, because what they always espouse sounds as if it came from the mouth of a child or someone mentally ill.  That’s hardly a display of intelligence.

    The fact is that some liberals are accomplished in their chosen fields, because some of them can learn subject matter easily enough, but they’re ill-equipped to think on a logical,  broader scale than what they’ve learned inside the box.  Too, many of them are so handicapped with airhead visions and imaginary theories it’s obvious they have no understanding of what the real world is all about. 

    Conservatives might entertain those same theories, but can so readily see the silliness of them they rightly dismiss them as nonsense.  But, the liberal has some kind of perversity of thought wherein he convinces himself his lundicrous mental meanderings give him special insight which, to him, translates into intelligence, when they are no more than the products of various mental disorders that make him out to be some kind of clownish fool.

    Every fool, fop, nincompoop and idiot,  who entertains liberal fantasies loves to think his bizarre mental inadequacies are proof of his intelligence, instead of legitimate evidence that he’s laboring under some kind of mental disorder.

    It is as they say:  Liberals have both feet planted firmly in the air.

     

     

  • Anonymous

    I am confident that those with Ivy League degrees are more likely to be able to locate Syria on the map than whites who drop out of high school. The problem is that the Ivy League graduates suffer from what George Orwell called, “money sheltered ignorance.” They live in safe, which is to say white, neighborhoods. The few blacks they know are exceptional, or they  occupy subordinate positions without resentment. 
     
    White blue collar workers probably have more difficulty locating Syria on the map. Nevertheless, they have a better understanding than Ivy League graduates that when blacks are in the majority, many of them are dangerous. Those doing this study call this understanding “prejudice.” I call it “street smarts.” 
     
    George Orwell also said, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” 

  • Anonymous

    In the social sciences, an opinionedated bias is assumed and an experiment is done to confirm (not prove or disprove) but confirm the bias of the researcher as can be seen here:

    Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as “Family life suffers if mum is working full-time,” and “Schools should teach children to obey authority.” Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as “I wouldn’t mind working with people from other races.” (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson’s work can’t speak to this “underground” racism.)

    There are two questions here.

    “Family life suffers if mum is working full-time”.

    Personally, I happen to believe that children suffer in a multitude of ways if they’re left without adult supervision and guidance. If both mom and dad worked and no one was rearing the children, children will find other teachers (friends, TV, video games, movies, etc.) that form their moral compass. Think of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. I know one of them was left money on the table to buy food to feed himself. Put one boy who has no parental guidance and he takes his moral bearings from an unstable peer.

    “Schools should teach children to obey authority”.

    The operative word “obey” is a highly-charged authoritarian word. Do any of us want our children to OBEY authority or do we want our children to respect authority?

    Children should be taught AT HOME AND BY PARENTS  to respect people but to not blindly obey them. Would any parent tell their children to trust and obey authority thereby setting them up for physical, emotional, or sexual abuse?

    These are loaded questions that can’t be answered yes or no. They only show the bias of the researchers.

  • Anonymous

    “Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order,” Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence.

    Really? You mean the left doesn’t offer structure and order? So all the gay, black, mestizo, jewish, socialist, communist, and transexual clubs at my former university weren’t “structures” ? Doesn’t 90% of the MSM count? Isn’t “weez all be eekwaahl” an order inducing mantra?

  • Anonymous

    “There’s no gentle way to put it: Black people may simply be dumb.”

    No one would ever print such a line.

    Yet the difference they found between the most liberal and most conservative study subjects (I’ve seen questionable claims approaching ten points) would surely be smaller than the gap between whites and blacks, and would be insignificant compared to the gulf between, say, Ashkenazim and African bushmen.

    A better headline for the story might be, “Liberals suddenly believe in IQ.”

  • Anonymous

     i only got three likes on my comment. its because of racism

  • Anonymous

    America can be divided into three groups of people:

    1) White Americans with high IQs and high college  degrees who live far removed from diversity and who therefore feel sorry for oppressed groups constantly: blacks and other minorities, as well as women, social outcasts etc…. These are the liberal white people.

    2) White Americans with high IQs but who don’t always have college degrees (but can just as likely have them).  These whites are most likely to live around and in areas enriched by diversity.  Either that or they have degrees in business, medicine, and engineering and don’t have to live around diversity to be smart enough about how the world really works.  These are the conservative white people.

    3) Nonwhite Americans and white “outcasts” with low IQs who align themselves with group number 1 since they know they will receive sympathy, protection , and handouts from them. These are the people who either don’t vote or who vote Democrat, but they can’t really be called “liberal”.

    What these biased IQ studies don’t take into consideration is that white people in group 2, who tend to be the main topic of  amusement for group number 1 and who also tend to be the people that the ” low IQed group” in these studies is supposed to represent…..what isn’t taken into consideration is that this same group (group 2) tends to live in the states that have the largest populations of group 3.  Therefore, so-called “red states” tend to be more likely to have overall lower IQs many times. 

    What needs to be done is a county by county study as opposed to an overall state by state IQ study. Either that, or we should only be comparing states based on their ethnic make-ups (mostly white red state Montana vs. mostly white blue state Vermont, or diversity enriched red state Alabama vs. diversity enriched blue state Hawaii).

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, people that “give into racism and prejudice may simply be dumb’? Wow, this article would seem to be tarring a whole lot of black people since they openly display their bigotry. And it’s the leftwing dummies who also openly display their racism with their constant attempts to reward people simply based on the color of their skin.

  • GERRY

    So now we have another liberal whiner ( Stephanie Pappas ) that is going to bad mouth anybody that is to the right by calling us all a bunch of dumb racists.  She thinks racism and prejudice are a result of low IQ and conservative beliefs. Stephanie is barely out of diapers and because she attended the University of California  (University of liberal propaganda)  all of a sudden she has all the answers when she doesn’t even know what the question is.  Maybe Stephanie will get a taste of the real world some day by getting raped, tortured, beaten, or mugged out in the street, or perhaps get passed over for a good job because the employer had to meet minority quotas,  or maybe get stomped to the ground on a public bus because she is a pretty white girl.  Perhaps after a taste of reality bites her in the butt,  Stephanie may find she has a few prejudices of her own.  

  • Marcy Fleming

    It’s been proven that men have generally a higher IQ than women (myself excepted), Republicans have a higher IQ than Democrats and whites have a higher IQ than blacks.
    So sorry if our little Yahoo “News” princess can’t face it.

  • The obvious answer to them using a study like this as propaganda is to stop using Yahoo email and search engine. 

    I’ll soon switch to MyWay.

  • all the test through life averaged 130+- for me. I exell as a redhead, a truck driver and can organise my garage. But, I don’t like black dogs. I had to admit somehow, I was racist.

  • Riiiiight.  Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the most prominent Nazis have IQs in the high triple digit range?

    Ignoring that, I can’t wait to hear leftists try and use this study.  Simply point out that “oh, so that means all blacks must be immensely racist – since their average IQ is so amazingly low.”

    The ensuing hilarity will almost make up for the sad, sad fact that tripe like this still gets aired on major news outlets, while people like Jared Taylor are practically ignored.

  • Did they consider that more intelligent people with more to lose by being socially/professionally  ostracized have simply learned to give the “proper” answers when questioned about their beliefs?
    A White engineer could give a better explanation of racial differences than, say, an unemployed forklift driver in a trailer park. But the engineer wants to keep his position in life and he knows how to do it. So the most qualified to explain something has the most to lose by doing so, and vice versa.

  • This agenda-driven science is similar to what the infamous Franfurt school ‘discovered’ a generation or more ago.  But evidence of this kind is cooked up for the consumption of whites.  This study should have included a panoply of races, not just whites of different socio-economic levels.

     But the familiar message seems to be this:  if you’re white and have any self-respect, show it.  Adopt the liberal agenda and give your culture away.  To do otherwise is a sign of low class stupidity.  Unfortunately, many white liberals have taken this contrived message to heart.

    As for the link between racism and IQ, consider the high levels of ethnocentrism that’s common among high IQ groups like the Chinese and Jews.  Is this an anomaly?  I don’t think so.  I’m therefore not sure what this study proves, if anything.  Then again, low IQ blacks seem very race conscious.  Therefore… what?

    I rate this study:  highly incomplete, and therefore stupid.

  • Bardon Kaldian

     I don’t have a problem with the Black low average IQ. Low IQ people can be socially very productive in certain areas (menial jobs, repetitive procedures etc.). Some mentally handicapped people I know are among the nicest folx I’ve ever met.

    What bugs me with Blacks is:

    *aggression & racial hatred
    * impossibility to control primal urges- this has nothing to do with IQ, but
    emotional-personality traits
    * criminal violent behavior
    * unpredictable behavior
    * their culture built upon the notion that hard work
    is for “sissies”. And hard work need not be mentally demanding.
    Extolling parasitical existence & a view of life as “fun without
    obligations”.

    If  White people live near Native Americans in reservations- generally,
    no much hostility or crime. The same with Chinese or other Orientals.

    Hostility & aggression towards Whites reads- Blacks, Hispanic Raza thugs, and
    in different context, orthodox Muslims.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t care how law abiding certain minorities are, I don’t want a bunch of them around me.  None of them are capable of replicating Western Civilization. The Asians may be smart but they have failed to invent at the level of whites.

      I am very young still and live in an apartment by myself.  My day starts off where I go down to my car to leave for work and I either pass a hispanic mother on my way down the steps or an arab woman in a head scarf, both walking their kids to the bus stop.  It is usually either one of those two I run into…….not a white person.  Then I stop at a gas station for coffee and the people behind the counter are usually black, as are a third of the people in the “store”.   Then I start my drive to work where along the way I see random blacks almost walking out into the road.  I also see many white men doing blue collar work like roadside construction, and I am instantly irritated thinking about how they got stuck with those positions while I see hispanics, Indians, and arabs in my apartment complex wearing their medical scrubs that they wear to work.  Then I get to work and I get to interact with several blacks who shouldn’t be in their positions to begin with.  Then I leave work and go grocery shopping and see old white women behind the cash register who should have had better retirement plans at this point.

      Reading my above paragraph you would think I am talking about the United Nations or New York City.  Nope, I am talking about part of Alabama.  The funny thing about my story is that the blacks irritate me the least considering that they have been in this state for a very long time (even though I avoid areas where they dominate for the reasons you say).  However, the people whose presence I resent the most are people like the arab woman in a headscarve who gives me dirty blank looks as I get in my car.  Never knew I would see the day when I have to deal with the United Nations in a state like Alabama.

      I shouldn’t have to come up with any other explanation other than, “I am just tired of seeing them”.  That should be all any white person ever has to say.

      • Bardon Kaldian

        **I don’t care how law abiding certain minorities are, I don’t want a
        bunch of them around me.  None of them are capable of replicating
        Western Civilization. The Asians may be smart but they have failed to
        invent at the level of whites. **

        Agreed, just it wasn’t what I was writing about. I am even more adamant about race issues re phenotype & behavior: I don’t mind about caveat about Asians & their intellectual heritage which is behind those of Whites.

        Simply, contrary to many AmRen readers, I don’t care much about IQ (although I admit  it can be used as an argument in a debate). To put it bluntly: groups of people want to remain surrounded by their own kind. If the White people were the dumbest & most unattractive & the laziest group of homo sapiens to grace the earth, I’d still insist that Whites remain on their own, demographically dominant & repel all efforts to be replaced or ethnically swamped.

        Because I’m White, and Whites are my tribe. And I want my tribe to prosper & expand. It’s this gut feeling, and I need not elaborate on the matter.

        • Anonymous

          I agree.

      • Anonymous

        Glad to see you are posting again Courtney, you were missing for a while and I thought that scary “proxies/encryption” post scared you off.

  • B

    Very true and thank you for the correction. It’s not prejudice if the negative bias is rational and justified and blacks having a ten fold crime rate certainly justify a bias towards them.

  • Realist

    IQ of 140, atheist, libertarian, gay, and unapologetic race realist.

    • Anonymous

      Any White that has bothered to crack open a history book knows gay men are some of the greatest military leaders in history. They can and will gentrify the most horrid ghettos, they are worthy of admiration.

      • Hmmmmm so now your willing to believe the history books? I guess when its convenient. Gays are no asset to my cause. No thank you.

        • Anonymous

          Yes John. Some folks think of White Nationalism as their own private little tree-house complete with a long list of people that are NOT allowed. By the time you finished your list you likely would have excluded 90-95% of the entire white population for one reason or another. The small percentage of people that are left gets even smaller when one realizes a lot of them really aren’t interested in joining your little club.  That isn’t a movement, that is a cult.

          • Anonymous

            To Anon —

            Oh please those stats aren’t that far fetched. First off you ban the gays that’s 10%, next goes anyone that says anything positive about gays, that’s another 30+ percent based on the 10 likes his comment received, then ban those females (closet feminists) that want to keep the right to vote, that will probably knock out at least 48% of the total population right there, then start on the Atheists, Agnostics, Pagans, or any other non-Christian/Jew which will eliminate a good 20%-40% of the population of most White countries. We haven’t even addressed the differences of political opinions yet. Of course some of the above categories will overlap for any one individual; regardless when you got done you wouldn’t have a whole lot of potential members left in your little camp.

            Anyone WITH a brain would realize that.

  • JasonC

    This kind of makes sense, people with low education have to compete with immigrants with a higher level of education for the same jobs, hence a dislike of immigrants. So tell me something that I dont know.

  • Maybe this explains on why blacks are so racist.

  • Anonymous

    “The first is their deep sense of racial cohesion.”

    That is the one thing I envy about blacks.  If whites had that level of cohesion we would have this nation to ourselves, instead of already being discriminated against by our own kind.  Already jury composition is a consideration as to whether we can get a fair shake.  One particularly annoying example of this lack of cohesion is Bill Gates scholarship program for college students.  He  excludes white students.  His background is English and German, but he excludes those groups from help.  Whites are funding most scholarships, but they abandon their own kind.  No wonder the great civilizations have all collapsed.

  • This article is just another example of the ‘Culture of Critique’, using pseudo studies without opposition or counter argument to make any interests or rights for whites appear dysfunctional
    and immoral.    This is just the authoritarian personality for the 21ast century.  See Kevin MacDonald.

    The money changers are in control and they are using our resources against us.

  • Marc B.

    “People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays.”

    Folks with linear cause-effect type thinking are much less likely to go through the mental gymnastics of abstract thought required to accept 90% of post-modern (Cultural Marxist) liberalism. Think of the completely non-linear thought it takes for an intelligent, educated white person to argue for affirmative action or any other programs that provide a special set benefits for non-whites. Some animals are more equal than others…  

  • Anonymous

    It is white Europeans that came up with the ideas of individual freedom, personal responsibility and being in charge of one’s own life and destiny. 
    No other race has even come close to these white ideals, but, all other races want to avail themselves of our unique concepts while eroding them by bringing their own cultures into ours (and demanding that we respect their cultures without any reciprocity from them).
    Orientals have the concept or ancestor worship and the “cult of personality” which elevates even despotic “leaders” to “demi-gods”.  In addition, their cultures are rife with institutionalized corruption which they accept without question.  To orientals, “that is the way things are” . . . attempts to “fight back” are seen as disrespectful to their demi-gods and culture . . .
    Orientals are expert at copying original ideas of others and do make improvements to the inventions of others  Individual accomplishment and recognition is frowned upon, consensus and compromise as a group is the oriental way . . .
    Blacks, on the other hand thrive best under the “strong man” type of government.  Dictators are rampant in EVERT black dominated country.  Our attempts to give them “western” political ideas and systems fail almost immediately.  The old concept of “one man, one vote, one time” is the norm.  Blacks are like children, who need a strong hand to “encourage” proper behavior. . .
    Our founding fathers were BRILLIANT in introducing the concept of limited government, “rights” from our creator–NOT government.  Too bad the rest of the world does not embrace these concepts . . .

    • Beloved Comrade

      Orientals are expert at copying original ideas of others and do make improvements to the inventions of others.  

      They are also expert at claiming our original ideas as their own.

      • Before the Industrial Revolution, Europeans were only good at copying such Chinese  inventions   as paper, compass, printing(both woodblock and movable type —400 years before Gutenberg) not only gunpowder,but also gun, cannon, bomb, rocket, both land and sea mines   These Chinese inventions greately influenced Europe.  Find out about the great  Chinese inventions which changed the world,  before running your mouth off.

        • Beloved Comrade

          Nonsense.

          You just want to discredit Whites, by running off your mouth.

          The “paper” the Chinese used was not the mass produced paper used now, but a type of parchment.

          The Chinese language does not lend itself to moveable print. There is no known connection between Gutenberg and any Chinese printing press. Gutenberg used a wine press.

          Rockets? Did the Chinese put a man on the moon? Did they invent anti-biotics? Did they discover germ theory which led to vaccines against deadly diseases such as polio?

          In 1996, Congress passed a new law making theft of industrial secrets a federal crime. The offense rises to espionage if the secrets are handed over to foreign governments.

          Every single person arrested or convicted under this law has been Asian, and the vast majority have been Chinese.

          –Jared Taylor, White Identity

          Despite the fact that since the communist revolution in 1949, China has developed only one internationally recognized drug — Artemisinin — to fight malaria.

          China is also the leading source of what are known as “junk” patents — ridiculous claims of “inventions” that are little more than snake-oil scams.

          Plagiarism and doctored results seem to be as common as chopsticks. A study by Wuhan University uncovered an entire industry of bogus report and thesis writers who raked in $145 million last year, a fivefold increase since 2007.

          –China Pushing the Envelope on Science, and Sometimes Ethics, Washington Post

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/27/AR2010062703639.html?sid=ST2010062800373

          Educate yourself before you go off bashing Whites again.

          Case Closed.

          How about finding out about White inventions before running YOUR mouth

          • Before talking a lot of white garbage, why don’t you pay  more attention to the  historical facts .  paper was invented in China  about 2nd century bc. Why don’t you google and find out?  According to Henry-Jean Martin a prominent French expert on printing, Gutenberg’s movable type was extremely similar to the Korean metal movable type which had been invented prior to Gutenberg in Korea.   He thought  Gutenberg’s movable type had been heavily influenced by the Korean metal movable type which was in turn  an improvement on the original Chinese movable type. Ancient  Greeks were the biggest copycats in the ancient world. The Greeks copied the Egyptian and Babylonian astronomy,math,medicine wholesale. Also the Greek Alphabet was copied from that of Phoenicians who were non-European  semnitic people from the Middle East.   How about the Romans they even replaced their own religions with Christianity which was an offshoot of Judaism of the non-European semitic people from Palestine.   As you can see in the Ancient times there was nothing original about  Europe. Even the Greek geometry was heavily borrowed from Babylonia.

        • You and some others have come to this Place that us Few and Far in Between White Folk can come to for Peace, Support and Good Will.  Why?

          I responded to a post of yours that sounded Pro-White but after reading this, you clearly are not.  Why are you here?

          Debate is Fine as long as you do it using Truth but not if you’re just going to stretch “fact”, try to deliberately mislead or “start” with being Pro-White and then not be, please don’t bother.

          Lots of people here are Happy to Debate but they Expect AND Deserve, Honest Debate.  Please Honor this.

          • When you look at the time line , I had posted my reply to Beloved Comrade before I posted my comment on the Jewish IQ.  So do not accuse me of  misleading you.  By the way I’m neither pro-white nor anti-white. I have nothing against white people.

        • Anonymous

          Chinese may have invented some rudimentary paper and firecrackers 10,000 years ago, but they have invented nothing in the modern age. Everything they make is a cheap imitation of Western technology. White Europeans invented the automobile, the rocket, the telephone, the light bulb, antibiotics, nuclear fission, computers…I could go on for hours. If white people are doomed, it’s because they were so generous that they gave their countries away. At this point, there is nothing left to give. 

          Whites not only invented every technological miracle that you enjoy, but we also pay for everything. When there are no whites, there is no electric power, no public services, no AA entitlement jobs, no food stamps, no roads, no toilets, NOTHING. Ask black Africans in former colonies. Many of the remaining elderly miss the whites and wish they would come back. They miss hard currency and running water. Right now, 2 out of 5 black South Africans miss Apartheid. In the early 2000s, a newspaper in Harare, Zimbabwe held a mock presidential poll. The voters, mostly black, were given the choice of the former white colonial president, Ian Smith, or their current ugly, hateful, corrupt  president, Robert Mugabe. Most chose Ian Smith. At that point, the newspaper was shut down, and Ian Smith was deported from the dead country.

          Our fight has only begun. You’re a disgusting troll and you speak so arrogantly. Without us, you would not even exist. If you want to prove me wrong, move to Uganda, Haiti, or Zimbabwe or similar. You will not do that, because you know you would not last five minutes. 

          A race war has been declared against us and our fight has only begun. We will win, because we are on the side of decency and civilization. You had better hope we win this war. Without us, you will cease to exist. 

          •  I really do not care about whether the South African blacks are missing apartheid or not.  That’s not my concern.  What makes you think I give a damn about it?       Where did you get this idea gunpowder was invented 10,000 years ago?  it was invented in the 10th century.  Do some research,before opening your mouth.  It’s also true Europeans and Americans invented many great things since the 19th century. But things will change in this centry.   As I said before, prior to the Industrial Revolution Euro-whites were nothing but copycats since the ancient times.     Read my long reply to Beloved Comrade down below one more time. 

          • Anonymous

            “I really do not care about whether the South African blacks are missing apartheid or not.  That’s not my concern.  What makes you think I give a damn about it? ” You should care. When whites become a minority in the western world, the deterioration will be even more evident.  Crime and chaos will escalate, and technology will deteriorate. 
            Where did you get this idea gunpowder was invented 10,000 years ago?…….” What makes you think I give a damn about it?” same answer as you. It’s nice history lesson, but who invented the modern world? I respect the accomplishments of Asia, but they do not invent anything in this age. The Japanese have been skillful at improving western technology, but they are not inventors.  That is why they lost the war. They lacked technological advancement in their war machines. They continued to use out-dated western technology. Ancient Asian inventions  are an interesting history lesson, but are not relevant to this discussion.  The Arabic numerical system is an exception. Not that it matters, but various Middle Eastern races are considered Caucasian. 

            By the way, I do not hate any particular race. I try to give every individual a chance. IQ, morality, etc varies in every group. It just fills me with rage when someone attacks whites either verbally, physically, or politically. It is an act of war. 

          • According Robert Temple, a famous sinologist, more than 50% of the inventions that laid foundations for the modern world came from China.   Europeans invented a lot of things in the 19th and 20th centuries. But before the Industrial Revolution, Europeans were basically copycats who were only good at  imitating,copying other civilizations’ inventions. Things will change in  this century. A lot of ground-breaking inventions will come out of China again in the next 20 years.  No racial or ethnic group has the monopoly on the power of creativity and innovation. Can you imagine moddern military without such Chinese inventions as cannon,gun,rocket, bomb, land or sea mine?

        • Beloved Comrade

          Hey boy, is 69 your IQ number? You sound like a pretty ignorant —–.

          It is YOU who are ignorant.  Why don’t you learn REAL history instead of coming here to bash Whites.  What’s your point, so you can “feel” superior to us?  

          Won’t work.  The FACTS are not on your side.

          On paper:

          Often the allegation is heard that paper was invented in China or Egypt. In neither of these two civilizations was paper used: in China a textile based parchment was used, and in Egypt bound reeds – papyrus – was made into parchment. The very earliest documents in Europe were also captured on material parchment – but there is no evidence that this development was transmitted from the East to Europe.

          In Europe, the process to make a textile thin enough to be comfortably used, meant a laborious process of pulping thicker scraps of textiles by hand. This process was revolutionized in 1798 by the French scientist Nicholas Louis Robert, who invented the first mechanical paper pulping machine. The raw material was still crude textile. Robert’s machine was improved by the British stationers and brothers Henry Fourdrinier and Sealy Fourdrinier, who in 1803, produced the first of the machines that bear their name.

          On the printing press:

          Allegation is often heard that printing was invented in China. This is also untrue: in China a simple system of pattern inking had been developed in which a strip of material was lain against a water based painted picture. This only worked for very basic patterns and was consequently was not widespread. 

          There is also no evidence that this technique was ever exported anywhere as it had virtually no applications.

          In Europe, printing was developed entirely independently after long thought on how to speed up the process of book copying: Johann Gutenberg, of the German city of Mainz, invented the technical aspects of printing in 1450. Basing the design of his machine on a wine press, Gutenburg developed the use of raised and movable type and from the start used oil based paints.

          http://tinyurl.com/7q69zmk

          •  It is common knowledge paper was invented in ancient China. Say whatever you like, that will not change the fact.  You might say the sun rises from the west, but we all know that’s b.s. The movable type was invented in the 11th century in China and metal movable type which Gutenberg seemed to have copied was invented in the 13th century. In the 17th century Francis Bacon, the famous British statesman,and scientist,said the most important inventions up to that time,were compass,gunpowder, printing.   He also said  all these inventions were not of European origin.  If Francis Bacon had thought Gutenberg invented printing, he wouldn’t have said it,  would he?    According to Robbert Temple,a noted sinologist, more than 50% of the inventions which laid the foundation for the  modern world came from China. All these people I quoted were well-educated white people. But I  want to give credit to the Europeans and Americans who have invented a lot of things since the 19th century.  But things will change in this century again.  You will see a lot of ground breaking inventions will come out of China again in the hext 20 years. Like  everythingg else in life, The  power of creativity and innovation ebbs and flows. No racial or ethnic group has a monopoly on it.

  • Prejudice means to ‘pre-judge’. 

    In its normal usage, the term implies prejudging others to posses character flaws.

    A prejudiced White person will prejudge blacks to be criminal, violent and intellectually challenged.

    However, prejudice can also prejudge others to posses character qualities. 

    A prejudice White person may prejudge blacks to be law-abiding, peaceful and highly intelligent. 

    Diversity advocates do not want to end prejudice. Rather, they strive to change White prejudice — from negative to positive. Their objective is for White people to prejudge blacks as being law-abiding, peaceful and highly intelligent. 

    That is, when multiculturalists advocate an end to prejudice, they are actually advocating an end to negative prejudice.

    In recent months a White woman applied positive prejudice. She prejudged a black male to be law-abiding. Her prejudice was misplaced as the black male violently assaulted her, raped her and robbed her. News reports revealed that the woman chose not to avoid the black male lest she appear ‘racist’. 

    Thinking people will objectively observe reality. If past experience justifies negative prejudice, they will be well advised to embrace it. 

    The Department of Justice reveals that 52 percent of homicides are committed by blacks; 13 percent of the population. Furthermore, most homicides are committed by males aged 18 to 49. When we consider that nearly half of all homicides are committed by black males age 18-49 (about 3 percent of the population), we would be wise to prejudge; to be prejudice. 

    This is not to suggest that all blacks are criminals, nor that all criminals are black. Rather, it is to simply accept reality as it is rather than suffer dire consequences.

  • Regarding Jewish IQ:  According to Richard Lynn, the foremost authority on IQ study,  American Ashkenazi about  107(not 113) Israeli Ashkenazi about 103,  Sephadic Jews about 92.  So the Jewish IQ as  a whole is about 100 which is the same as the IQ of white gentiles.  If you want to find more about Jewish IQ, just google TALK: IQ TEST CONTROVERSY.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Maybe they could explain why Asians, including Japanese are so prejudice.  They even have mono-cultural nations.  Yet the celebrated IQ is,….. there.

  • Hey boy, is 69 your IQ number? You sound like a pretty ignorant —–.

  • Anonymous

    If I have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. — Isaac Newton

  • Beloved Comrade

    Well, aren’t you the little authoritarian!  Pompous and presumptuous too!

    I don’t have to brag about the accomplishments of my people.

    Notice that you are writing in MY language?  Why is that?  Why is it that I am not writing in Punjabi or Chinese?  Why do you think Whites have had such a tremendous influence all over the world? Could it be our creations and inventions?  Hmmm?  Could it be the system of individual rights about the state? Hmmmm

    Jealous are we?  Seems so.

    After all, we are only 7% of the earth’s population — and if White haters like you have your way, that percentage would be 0. 

    We are trying to protect ourselves from the likes of you, those who wish genocide on us.  It is YOU who are jumping on the ‘hate Whites’, ‘evil White’ bandwagon.

    Why is that?  What is your point?  Does it make you feel superior to put Whites down?  Does it?

    You can thank Whites for the following (although I doubt a White-hating racist such as yourself ever would):

    The Internet, the bulk of mathematics, physics and chemistry, 95% of all medical advances and life-saving pharmaceuticals including antibiotics; the internal combustion and jet engines, satellites, rocketry and spacecraft, microscopes, recorded music, television, radios and cameras.
    This includes invention and application of the computer and the electrical grid that powers it so you can write your “lofty” White-hating, racist screeds putting yourself above us lowly, stupid Whites while calling us “arrogant.”

    Do you write for the New York Times, perhaps?
    What is your point?  Does bashing Whites make you feel good about the shortcomings of your own people or yourself?

    Why don’t you tell us why YOU chose to come onto a site about White issues and presume to tell us how stupid and arrogant we are?

  • Beloved Comrade

    While I do have certain realistic ideas about race, the difference between a race realist and racist is statements like yours–where “pride” becomes arrogance.

    Arrogance? For wanting to defend my people from the likes of you?  For fighting against revisionists and haters such as you?
    For trying to make sure my children and grandchildren aren’t lorded over by White haters like you?

    You bash and defile us while using our language and our creations.  Whites invented the modern world. You need to accept it and get over yourself.

    You have a lot to thank Whites for, although you never will — as you continue to use your electrical appliances, car powered by an internal combustion, travel by jet-powered airplanes, log on to your computer, drink clean water, use sewage systems and expect first world medicine and antibiotics if you become sick.  These things were all created by Whites.  These are facts you need to accept and get used to.  Asian, Africans, East Indians did not invent or create these things.  If not for White inventions, you would be living under a rock with a life expectancy of about 25.

    Don’t worry, if the American government and European Union has its way, we Whites will go the way of the Dodo Bird, never to return. 

    Enjoy your Brave New World.  You deserve it.  You see, it is only Whites that respect human life and believe in human rights and equality under the law.  This is why billions from Third World Hell holes risk their lives to get to White countries, to live among evil, racist, homophobic, hateful Whites.

    Oh, and don’t leave without looking at the images!  This is what you can expect once we Whites are gone.

    Images: #1 & #2:  Modern day India
    Images: #3,4,5:  Modern day China

  • Bebe

    There’s no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and
    prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to
    stir public controversy.
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    Well, Ms. Pappass, me thinks there is no gentle way to put this, but YOU are ignorant of any truths.  Do you know the meaning of IGNORANT?  If not, then look it up.

  • Hey,  is 69 your IQ number?

  • The true inventors of modern science was the Moslems who invented  the modern scientific method in the 11th century. The modern scientific method is fundemental to the modern science  which was further developed by Europeans later.

  • The mention of Chinese inventions and advances always come up (from some sources) whenever the slightest credit is given to Europeans. I admit to knowing only a few details of the glorious Chinese age of discovery. But it has always seemed true to me that they peaked very early in history and it was a downward slide for centuries; until they ‘copied’ a page out of American/Western capitalism. 

    BTW, the Chinese invented gunpowder and were brilliant.  The Western world capitalized on that invention, improved it, and we are bloodthirsty. They invented paper but there were other writing materials before that, papyrus being one.  If it makes me sound ‘ignorant’ because I’m not impressed with one time millenia old advances by the Chinese, so be it. Many of their discoveries can be lived without in the modern world. A lot of Western science can’t be lived without easily.

  • Try one more time. It’s hard to understand what you are trying to say.

  • mikejones91

    Well I am racist,conservative, and an atheist. I am also a genius. So am I not smart anymore? To be fair…I can’t really say I am an atheist as I have NO proof he does not/or does exist. So I am neutral. But still racist!