Race: The Central Question

Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, April 5, 2013

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Race isn't everything. But it might as well be.

Americans live by lies. Or they are ignorant. Or they deliberately refuse to think. There may even be conscious deception, borne out of a sense of noblesse oblige or misplaced morality. Whatever the reason, race has been removed from any serious policy discussion.

The result is a society dependent on ignoring reality. Sure, we pretend to debate issues. We pay billions to support a huge bureaucracy supposedly designed to solve our problems. Our leaders attend prestigious schools for years and commission dozens of studies. All the while, we explicitly ignore the one thing that would make it possible to understand our problems. The result is policy by comedy. White advocates know our political leaders are either lying or stupid when they announce “solutions” to policy dilemmas.

Take education. Just as race realists would predict, white American students perform at levels roughly equivalent to other First-World nations. Just as race realists would predict, the achievement gap between racial groups persists across all geographic regions and economic levels. And yet, with tiresome predictability, television will give us a parade of supposed experts, liberal and conservative, all with new ways to help us ignore what is right in front of our eyes. Be it Head Start, small class sizes or “school choice,” we’ll do anything rather than acknowledge the reality of race.

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What we are told is the greatest nation in the world contains dozens of decrepit wastelands that were once some of our greatest cities. Camden, New Jersey; Cleveland, Ohio; and Detroit, Michigan have been more permanently destroyed by diversity than Hiroshima was by the atomic bomb. Yet, we can count on the Left to explain to us that racism and oppression doom what are delicately called “urban youth.” As for the so called Right, they will come up with even more absurd explanations, blaming socialism, unions, “Democrats,” or other baleful forces which have somehow spared prosperous, progressive cities like Portland, Pittsburgh, or San Francisco.

St. Louis, Missouri

St. Louis, Missouri

The city of Chicago, the community once “organized” by the President we elected to prove we are not racist, is today more dangerous than Afghanistan. Blacks commit 75 percent of the murders, despite only being a third of the population. Blacks also refuse to talk to police officers trying to stop the violence, creating a situation akin to a low-level insurgency. In response, the city’s white Chief of Police Garry McCarthy says that in order to understand the violence you have to go back to the Pilgrims. Meanwhile, Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s top priority is pressuring banks not to lend to gun manufacturers.

The state of California, which was once a symbol a middle-class paradise, is now all but insolvent. The city of Stockton has declared bankruptcy and Hispanics are now a plurality in the “All America City.” That city’s situation might be preferable to that of Bell, where the almost entirely Hispanic city has seen practically its entire government arrested for corruption. The mayor’s defense is that he did not know what he was doing, because he is illiterate. Hundreds of thousands of Californians are fleeing the state, the first time there has been “white flight” from an entire state. The left-libertarian magazine Reason, an enthusiastic cheerleader for illegal immigration, blames it all on “big government.”

Stockton, when it was majority white.

Stockton, when it was majority white.

Even the most fundamental questions about the nature of our society cannot be answered because we refuse even to consider race. The Left claims to be mystified by the collapse of the middle class, the destruction of private sector unions, and the end of class mobility in America. The Right cannot seem to understand why the state of Ronald Reagan will never vote Republican again, why the public is no longer afraid of socialism, and why the American soccer team is cursed at and booed at a “home game” in Los Angeles while illegal immigrants parade under foreign flags in the streets. Neither side can even began to grapple with the basic questions of class, values, identity, or economics that supposedly define them, because of their deliberate blindness about race.

Illegals demanding amnesty in Los Angeles.

Illegals demanding amnesty in Los Angeles.

But it’s not just the big questions. It’s the little things that affect us every day. It’s not being able to understand a clerk at the store because he can’t speak English. It’s the trash on the floors and the shouts of obscenities if you try to take your kids on the subway. It’s having to sit in traffic for an hour each day, to and from work, because your former middle-class neighborhood close to where you work has mysteriously turned into a “ghetto.” They tell us diversity is a strength. Actually, it’s just a word that means we can no longer have nice things.

Each day it gets more absurd. Nothing seems to work. Nobody does what he is supposed to do. The Border Patrol is filled with Hispanics and we act surprised when they ignore the law to help their co-racialists. We put Chinese in charge of military secrets and pretend that nobody could have predicted they would spy for their homeland. We pretend we don’t know what is happening when black elected officials run their cities into the ground but their constituents are more upset when a white person is put in charge to try to help.

Race is at the center of all of this. Race is not just a social construct. It is a biological fact that exists no matter how much people pretend otherwise. There is no issue in American life, be it crime, health care, the environment, education, defense, or even public transportation that can be addressed intelligently without confronting the central role of race.

Refusing to accept this means that official opinion and public policy grow ever more outlandish and divorced from reality. Even free speech becomes a thing of the past as we have to lie more and more to ourselves and each other to prevent us from seeing that the Emperor of Diversity has no clothes. Thus, we end up with a country where after Army soldiers are gunned down by a non-white, the Army Chief of Staff General Casey says, “As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.” We have to recognize that to actually believe this is to confess to being a madman.

Killed by Nidal Malik Hasan at Fort Hood.

Killed by Nidal Malik Hasan at Fort Hood.

Theodore Dalrymple once said of egalitarian propaganda, “When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.”

To have to live this way imposes costs beyond an incompetent government, a wasteful economy, and a collapsing culture. Ignoring race creates a feeling of alienation from everyone around else. In a diverse society, social trust plummets. Instead of being surrounded by kin, community, and real culture, we’re put into a war of all against all, even as we are lectured that we are all brothers and sisters. It’s no surprise that many modern Americans feel life is meaningless. They isolate themselves from the larger society and throw themselves into the accumulation of material goods, or simply indulge in pleasure as a distraction from the reality of American life.

Thomas Jefferson said, “There is not a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world.” Race is one of those truths that cannot be ignored. It is the key to the rise and fall of civilizations, the collapse or rise of a city, the hidden pattern behind a thousand everyday social interactions. As Benjamin Disraeli wrote, “All is race, there is no other truth.”

We can no longer afford to ignore this central reality of human existence and wonder why our society is failing and our culture collapsing. Race must retake its central place in the public debate. We cannot make public policy without acknowledging it. We cannot improve our everyday lives without understanding it. And most importantly, we cannot give meaning to our existence as individuals and as a nation if we continue to lie and deceive ourselves about the reality of race.

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Gregory Hood
Mr. Hood has been active in conservative youth movements in the US.
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  • Nathanwartooth

    One of the things that really interested me when I got into race realism was how much
    predictive power it had.

    It’s truly fascinating how much you can tell about an area just by which race lives there.

    I hope you guys are having fun at the AmRen conference! Which I could be there!

    • JohnEngelman

      The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

      - Jared Taylor from “The Color of Crime”
      http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html

      • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

        The single best indicator of when Engelman has said something really stupid (“I heart liberalism”), is when he follows up with a quote from Mr. Taylor that actually makes sense.
        Fancy that, Jared Taylor makes sense.

      • Derelictus

        True, but in the case of Hispanics, there are exceptions…El Paso TX consists of mostly (assimilated) Tejano Hispanics and the city has a low crime rate. Of course I think that’s the ONLY exception I can think of…are Tejanos mostly “white”? Versus the mostly/majority nonwhite Hispanics who are currently demographically transforming the whole country, and seemingly rarely for the better.

        • JohnEngelman

          I too have read that El Paso has a low crime rate. It merits study to discover why the crime rate is so low. I am confident that it is not low because of liberal social spending and social reform.

        • Johnny Clay

          Most Tejanos are majority-white, that I know of.

          • pcmustgo

            Yeah, I’ve met some “Mexican-Americans” who are very tall and white and also marry white.

          • KittyAmerica

            I don’t understand how this is true. My understanding of a Tejano is a Texan of Mexican descent; so either a Mexican Texan or a Texas Mexican (Texas State Historical Association).

          • MBlanc46

            Possibly because they were largely of European rather than Amerind ancestry.

      • David Ashton

        Only in racially mixed societies, of course.
        Racially homogeneous societies also have violent criminals. This is true, Engelman, by the way of both Han and Jewish societies.

        • Jefferson

          Jewish society is not violent. Israel has one of the lowest per capita murder rates in the world.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

          Eastern European countries like Ukraine and Russia have a higher per capita murder rate than Israel.

          That means certain Slavs act more like violent uncivilized violent animals than Jews . Which is to be expected, since Slavs on average have a lower I.Q than Jews.

          • David Ashton

            Violent crime is low in Israel – 130 cases a day on average last year – but still occurs. IQ levels are a factor. See also the BBC News Report on “Jewish” crimes, June 7, 2004.

          • Jefferson

            I bet the vast majority of violent crimes in Israel like rape, assault, murders, etc are committed by Arabs. Arabs are to Israel like what African Americans and Hispanics are to the United States when it comes to minority groups that disproportionally commit a lot of crimes.

            When Jews do commit a crime, in the vast majority of cases it is non violent white collar crimes.

            But street level thug crimes like home burglary, carjacking, rape, murder, liquor store robbery, etc is extremely uncommon among Jews.

          • David Ashton

            The sources I saw appeared to refer separately to the Arab community, but I welcome more precise analysis. Except for Purim Jews have always been known for comparative sobriety; I suspect a genetic aversion to alcohol. There was of course a notorious Jewish gangster element in the USA, and a connection with prostitution that has caused embarrassment to apologists.

            As for crimes among the Chinese inside China, see “The Economist”, April, 6, 2013.

          • Jefferson

            In Israel there is no Jewish version of Honduras or Detroit when it comes to out of control crime. Jewish men on average do not have high testosterone levels like Mestizo and Black men.

            Testosterone has been linked with crime. The higher the testosterone level in a male, the higher the chance that he will become a violent criminal.

          • David Ashton

            No: I have never avoided contact with Jews because there were and still are some criminals of Jewish origin. You attribute to me a “logic” that does not exist.

            I wished merely to note that crime, including violent crime, has ethnic dimensions, even to some degree ethnic characteristics.

            I think you are right about high male testosterone levels, combined with poor frontal lobe development.

            Engelman may imagine he has “won the argument” if his opponent cites factual evidence he refuses to read, but you may care to look just three of the excellent sources that helped to document and define my viewpoint on our particular difference of opinion:

            1. Bristow, Edward J. “Prostitution and Prejudice” (NY 1983).
            2. Short, Martin. “The Rise of the Mafia” (London 2009).
            3. Morton, James. “Gangland International” (London 1999).

            The last volume has chapters on the “Russian” Mafiya and on Chinese crime.

          • Defoe

            Wasn’t a large part of the “American” mafia leadership Jewish? And the Russian mafia also?

          • David Ashton

            Exactly so, and these books among others give details and explanations.

          • MikeofAges

            In the gangster era of the early 20th Century, the most prominent groups were Italians, Jews and Irish. The Italian and Jews in the organized crime world got along pretty well. Italians and Jews often get along well in other milieus also. For example, the elderly women from New York who live in apartment buildings in Florida with only Jewish and Italian residents, virtually.

            But crime itself is a universal. Probably even neolithic societies whenever they became more prolific and developed had the rudiments of organized crime as well. This is a topic not covered in the general histories, but how could there not be?

          • David Ashton

            As a generalization, Italians and Jews enjoy lively conversation and are more comfortable in dense urban environments than comparatively phlegmatic northern whites.

          • MikeofAges

            Blood is thicker than water.

          • David Ashton

            Even Engelman can manage the desktop stretch to consult “Jewish-American Organized Crime” and “Russian mafia” on Wikipedia, if nothing else.

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            “I suspect a genetic aversion to alcohol.”

            The existence of Mogen-David Wines argues against that suggestion.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogen_David

          • David Ashton

            Thank you.

          • MikeofAges

            No shortage of Jewish alcoholics and Jewish heavy drinkers. Think
            Hollywood and the entertainment industry. Think the singles scene in
            major cities. especially (but not limited to) New York and Chicago. I
            won’t bore you the story of my own family.

          • Defoe

            True enough; having spent a considerable amount of time in Israel, a pleasant place to visit btw, I cannot remember seeing an intoxicated Israeli.

          • David Ashton

            Some make one special annual exception on their Purimfest.

          • pcmustgo

            Don’t forget, Israel also has Ethiopian black Jews.

            Jews in America are also almost all upper middle class, wealthy, so yeah, privileged wealthy kids are not going to get into those kind of crimes.

          • pcmustgo

            Poverty does have SOME correlation to crime, of course.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            There is a link between poverty and crime. Crime causes poverty.

            Guess who agrees with that:

            http://countenance.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/president-obama-admits-its-not-that-poverty-cause-crime-its-that-crime-causes-poverty/

          • Jefferson

            When it comes to Blacks for example, there is no correlation between crime and poverty. Look at all of the Black millionaire rappers, NFL players, NBA players professional boxers, etc who have a criminal record.

            You can take a Black person out of the ghetto, but you can not take the ghetto out of a Black person no matter how much money you put in their bank account. Money can not always buy class, especially in the case of Blacks.

          • JohnEngelman

            During the 1960s, Chinatown was the part of San Francisco with the most unemployment and poverty, the highest rate of tuberculosis, the least education, and the most substandard housing. Nevertheless, in 1965, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the whole state of California.

            - Jared Taylor, from “Paved with Good Intentions.”
            http://lesenfantsdelazonegrise.hautetfort.com/media/00/02/1497255978.pdf

          • Morris LeChat

            The Chines have always had very insular communities. They dealt with their criminals themselves. They did not report them to the regular authorities. I am sure you are aware of the Tongs and their ubiquitous status in American Chinese communities.

          • MikeofAges

            Crime and gangsterism are constants in human society. Traditional American Chinatowns had to be rife with all the known vices of humanity. Especially the big three — drug addiction, prostitution and gambling. The difference was, the Chinatown communities were insistent on maintaining internal control. The Chinese in America had powerful gangsters in their communities who maintained control over vice and the criminal element. Traditional law enforcement always favored a symbiotic relationship with the traditional gangster. The gangster can do what law enforcement cannot do, deal with out-of-bounds criminals in harsh and immediate ways.

            In case you don’t remember, Mr. Engleman, you already conceded this point a while back. Almost all the people who post here appear to have I.Q.s around 130 or higher. You’re not going to fool anybody around here into thinking that there ever was any immigrant community which did not have crime and vice. Including East Asians.

          • JohnEngelman

            I have never said that Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews are never criminals. I have never said that all blacks are criminals.

          • MikeofAges

            Not the topic, Mr. Engleman. The issue was why there were in the era you referred to few criminal prosecutions of Chinatown residents. The point I and others have made is that it was likely (and may remain so) that Chinatown society dealt with the issue on its own. Read my post.

          • JohnEngelman

            In “The Color of Crime” Jared Taylor wrote:

            “Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate…

            “Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely…

            There is only one category of crime for which Asians (unfortunately, this figure includes Pacific Islanders) are more likely to be arrested than whites, and that is gambling, which is deeply rooted in some Asian cultures. The 2002 UCR tell us Asians/Pacific Islanders are three times more likely than W&H to be arrested for this crime.
            http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

            When I think of crime I think of what can hurt me. A youth gang that minds its own business does not. Illegal gambling does not. I know that the Chinatowns in San Francisco and Oakland are safe because I often visited them.

          • MikeofAges

            You’re still changing the subject. Just concede the point that San Francisco’s Chinatown in the era of the 60s maintained internal control over its criminal element. Go back and read my post. The astoundingly low conviction and incarceration rate to which you refer does not indicate an impossibly low crime rate. May have been relatively low considering the low economic economic level and poor assimilation status of many of the residents. But that does not mean crime was non-existent. Even gated communities have crimes committed in them by residents. Sometimes by the adult residents themselves, not just their underachieving children.

          • JohnEngelman

            The low crime rates of Chinese and Chinese immigrants in every country they live regardless of income is well attested by every credible source. If you do not accept the authority of Jared Taylor and Professor J. Philippe Rushton on this matter, I see little point in looking for further documentation.

          • MikeofAges

            You’re still trying to change the subject. That is not the topic. Go back to the original post and read it. People are aware of and concur in your main points, which are that I.Q. counts and is closely connected to certain types of achievement, that in North America settled and gentrified and whites, East Asians and Hispanics can live together harmoniously, and that East Asians for the most part have low rates of common crimes. But that doesn’t mean that there is not some other explanation for why traditional Chinatowns had astoundingly low criminal conviction and incarceration rates. Some things are still constants in organized society The big three — gambling, drug abuse and prostitution are as old as the world.

          • David Ashton

            Except in China? E.g. the “Cultural Revolution”.

            These two “authorities” used evidence accessible at the time, but with scientific minds, unlike yours, open to new information. They did not take into account the sinister secrecy of Chinese crime in the USA. See e.g. Peter Huston, “Tongs, Gangs and Triads: Chinese Crime Groups in North America” (iUniverse 2001).

            You see “little point in looking for further documentation” because you have a closed mind, which repeats the same old sentences without dealing with counter-argument.

          • JohnEngelman

            Let me try once again. I do not maintain that no Chinese are criminals. Jared Taylor and J. Philippe Rushton agree that they have lower crime rates than whites. For me that is authority enough.

          • David Ashton

            A “credible” authority is just one you prefer to believe.

            Do you believe in Noah’s Ark because it is in all your Bibles?

          • JohnEngelman

            Excuse me. Jared Taylor owns this website. He and I have a few different likes and dislikes. However, when he claims that Chinese have lower crime rates than whites his claims are corroborated by many other authorities.

          • David Ashton

            I was not insulting Jared Taylor on his own property, if that is what you are trying to suggest. He has an open, well-informed mind, and willing to modify his opinions as he goes along.
            It is you that subverts the general proposition of the “American Renaissance” he established regarding the racial basis of US civilization and the dangers of replacement through mass-immigration.
            I think that if you are comparing Chinese crime with White American crime, you need to take in both national societies, not just expatriate groups, but in this case you need (1) accurate information from the Chinese mainland and (2) new information on the nature and extent of crime among the expatriate groups, given the fact that the Chinese are self-contained and notoriously secretive. My updated “many other authorities” have mostly tried to do this.
            I do not suppose that Jared Taylor would be too disappointed to learn and admit that the Chinese crime rates, after all, were not so much lower than that of whites (and I mean whites, no-one else), or not all.
            You are infatuated with what you regard as Chinese, whereas Jared Taylor loves his own country, people, language and culture.

          • David Ashton

            Another illustration of your subjective egotism.

            If Chinese gangsters hurt other Chinese, and this violence is concealed from the non-Chinese authorities, it is evidence of criminality, and qualifies the claims hitherto made by Messrs Rushton & Taylor. See e.g. Ko-lin Chin, “Chinatown Gangs” (OUP 200).

          • JohnEngelman

            In “The Color of Crime” Jared Taylor acknowledged that Oriental youths are more likely to belong to gangs than white youths.

            He also said Orientals have a much lower rate of violent crime, without explaining what those gangs do. If many of them are not criminal gangs I do not care about their existence. They could be gangs of friends gathered together for mutual protection.

          • David Ashton

            You do not care about their existence because (1) you are not personally endangered and (2) they disprove your assertion about criminality. See the other sources I have quoted, including but not only Dr Ko-lin Chin, Martin Short, Daniel Schearf, Glenn E. Curtis, Peter Huston, the CIA, Vanessa Neumann, Amy O’Neill Richard, David McKie (CBS), Patrick Raddeb Keefe, &c.

            Half the Asian criminal enterprises smuggling humans into the USA are Chinese. Their gangs have long been involved in alien smuggling, prostitution, and brothel “protection”, and increasingly so. According to the Center for the Pacific-Asian Family, Chinese and Vietnamese gangs in California are the “most organized and vicious”.

            Hardly “gangs of friends” or is that a euphemism?

          • Defoe

            Correlation does not mean causation.

          • gemjunior

            “When Jews do commit a crime, in the vast majority of cases it is non violent white collar crimes.”

            They commit plenty of white collar crimes, especially insider trading. Let’s see; Ivan Boesky, Michael Milken, Bernie Madoff-with-everybody’s-money, Martin Frankel, Samuel Israel III, Andrew Fastow, Jerome Kerviel, Bernard Ebbers, Ken Lay etc. They are very prolific with this type of crime. Most likely because they know they’re smart and expect to get away with it. Who knows how many have gotten away with white collar crime?

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            “They are very prolific with this type of crime.”

            How prolific are they compared to other groups? Statistics? Sources?

          • Hardhat

            Violent of white collar, a crime is a crime. Moreover those “low IQ trailer trash meth dealer types” you look down on, are native WHITE Americans whose ancestors built America unlike the Jews, blacks and browns.

            White trailer trash types are my White brothers and sisters before anything else and they belong to America. We can take care of our own people in our own country, and you elitists can keep your Jews and move to Israel with them.

          • Jefferson

            You mean those trailer trash White meth dealers who sell destructive poison to other White people. They are a disgrace to the White race. I look down on them the same way I look down on inner city “yoofs”.

          • JohnEngelman

            How can you say that white Gentiles built the United States, while Jews, blacks, and Hispanics did not? Anyone who earns an honest living builds America.

            I will not use derogatory terms to describe low income whites. Nevertheless, I prefer the company of those who are intelligent, widely read, and well informed, even if they did not go to college. Those are my people, and I have found them in all racial groups.

          • Defoe

            ” Those are my people, and I have found them in all racial groups.’

            Then you are a troll. I guess your degree from Wikipedia gives you the right to instruct all of us ignorant White folks about tolerance, ehh. Your ignorance is appalling. Why not read a book other than THE 10,000 YEAR LEAP, and learn something about real evolution and the history of human evolution.

            You are tiresome.

          • Morris LeChat

            What john is is an IQ snob. He does not believe in race nor ethnicity. He is like the mad scientist from a bad science fiction movie that thinks he will gather the highest IQ people and create a super race. His philosophy is antithetical to the philosophy of Amren in that he sees no inherent right for white people to exist and for nations defined as ethnically white to exist. In his mind, they should not exist because others have scored higher on some tests..He has shown much hostility and hatred towards whites on this site at the same time as he demonstrates and obsequious worship of jews and asians. He thinks genetics are everything and that they alone determine IQ. The thing is, this is more than likely NOT true. The jews are a very good example of why this is not true. The ashekenazic jewish community tested at a slightly LOWER IQ than other Europeans when they first arrived here in great numbers. Since then their IQ has risen above that of the general population. The genetics did not change, something else did, nutrition. It is probably very likely that cultural food choices have influenced cognitive abilities.While in Europe, the majority of jews lived in poverty, so their nutrition was not adequate. The Japanese, one of the highest of the Asian IQ groups, has been known for having a seafood based diet. IF one does a google search on fish oil and IQ one will find some very interesting facts about it. Soy phospholipids also affect cognitive function and development. Contrary to popular belief, Asian diets are not heavy on unfermented soy products such as tofu, and these unfermented products can seriously damage a persons health if eaten in any sizable quantity.Asian diets however ARE are heavy on the fermented soy products such as soy sauce, miso, fermented black beans, and other condiments that are eaten with almost EVERY meal.

          • http://www.facebook.com/liz.rodgers.357 Liz Rodgers

            I come to Amren because of my interest for white preservation. My 6th great grandfather was born in the 17th century in Prince Georges County, a great great grandfather was a first settler in Dallas and a first merchant there, but no one in my family tree had superior intelligence.. They all worked hard, fought in wars, and lived decent lives. I am female of average intelligence and sometimes what is written here is over my head, but I appreciate truth and beauty. I have great respect and admiration for the inventors and scientists that built our country but I don’t think the rest of us regular white people shoulf be excluded from the society. We need to be united. The meth users are terrible people but they wouldn’t be that way if the 60s hadn’t introduced drugs, sex, and rock and roll–surely today’s meth users must have had some great grandparents that were decent and honorable. Today’s meth user wouldn’t have been a meth user 150 years ago, maybe just a Confederate soldier or farmer.

          • Morris LeChat

            my dear, the “meth users” are a “straw dog. They in no way are characteristic of white civilization.

          • Defoe

            I find little evidence in his posts that Mr. Engelman has a particularly high IQ; his posts seem to be rote. It’s as though he has about 15 flash cards with a post on each one, and from time to time he copies one of those flash cards to this site. Wikipedia seems to be his “source” of choice and quotes from that mass-markeded book, the 10,000 year leap. That’s about all he’s got. Oh, and he seems obsessed with IQ (whatever that is) and Asians.

          • JohnEngelman

            Read this at the top of this page, “We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate.”

            Your insults do not qualify as “polite debate.”

          • Morris LeChat

            your insistence on the obliteration of white defined homelands does not qualify as polite, nor debate.

          • Defoe

            Well, apparently the moderators did not consider my “insults” insulting enough to delete them. Besides, the fact that I find you tiresome is really not an insult; I am merely telling you how I feel.

          • David Ashton

            Your description of his mechanical repetitions was quite amusing.

          • Defoe

            Happy to put a smile into your day. :)

          • Morris LeChat

            They can say it because it is the truth. Earning an honest living is not “building” anything. It is the collective earning and creating of a community of people that builds something. That collective has been white christian Americans. Jews were insignificant in number and role in the building of this country all the way up to the early part of the twentieth century. Blacks never built anything, they were always a parasitical element.

          • JohnEngelman

            Jews have always had an importance out of proportion to their numbers because of their high average intelligence.

            Throughout the nineteenth century the American South produced the best cotton and tobacco in the world at the lowest prices. That was possible because of black labor.

          • Luca

            Those blacks had to be forced to produce that labor. Studies show that Southern slave owners would have been better off paying laborers rather than keeping slaves. They were cared for from birth and into their elder years when no productive labor was possible. Slaves worked hard during planting and harvesting but were mostly idle during winter months. Considerable money was spent to purchase them, feed them, house them, oversee them, care for their medical needs, and the owners could count on losing money through theft, poor work output, sickness, death and runaways.

            Slavery was a sad mistake of history that was never handled properly. Don’t forget there were a number of Jew slave traders and investors who profited handsomely off this insidious practice, especially in the Caribbean markets.

            No one deserves credit for anything associated with slavery including the blacks who sold their own people nor the labor they produced.

          • Morris LeChat

            Jews were NOT important in the founding nor building of this country, nor of England, Nor of France, Nor of Germany etc. etc. etc. Get that through your head john, we did it without the jews, they weren’t necessary.

          • Defoe

            The growing of cotton in the South was possible because of the conducive climate and soil. That cotton would have been grown without the blacks. Economics 101.

          • JohnEngelman

            I think we on this website will all agree that Southern whites should have grown their own cotton and tobacco, and that slavery and the slave trade should never have existed.

          • Defoe

            “Throughout the nineteenth century the American South produced the best cotton and tobacco in the world at the lowest prices. That was possible because of black labor.”

            My comment above was in response to this statement in your post. It had nothing to do with your non sequitur above.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Go be with your people; we are most certainly not your people.

          • JohnEngelman

            My people I choose to like from all races. At least they are decent folks who obey the law. At best they are intelligent, widely read, and well informed.

            I do not care about their income, or their education. A self educated person intrigues me more than someone with years of education, and lots of degrees.

          • Morris LeChat

            Trailer parks have very low crime rates. Home ownership is very high in these places. The typical slander of “trailer park trash” is a reflection of a jewish snobbishness towards gentiles that goes back to the old world and the arena tax system of Tsarist Russia.

          • johnny from Alberta

            You know,
            Kinda getting sick of the “trailer trash” comment.
            I graduated, have a half million a yr job in a Very technical part of the oilpatch, have beautiful Well behaved(!) children all with strong education ethics, I grow my food, Love and help my neighbours(Whites) and “chose” to have a trailer(with land) as I do not need VANITY, into what my home represents. I do no crime, throw no rocks, and Many good people I Love, live in trailers.
            So, why do I not lump all you people with 2000+sq foot houses into a term like,,, lets say,,, as we question men with big trucks,, maybe similar to, Your house makes up for your manlyhood?
            Not everyone choses the same. House, car, fight to live Happily.
            Are we all not White, because of the home we chose or are forced to because of what you all hope to be the norm???
            Many posters here have my total respect, but some are just as bigoted as the non-|Whites are to those of us that stay strong, and connected to all of Our people. No matter what dwellings they have.
            Sorry, needed to get that out.

          • David Ashton

            I agree. White people should not be in divisive conflict with one another because of class, taste, language, etc. It works in both directions however. We are a giant family. We should avoid crime and vice, but also together oppose those few but influential members of our own race who seek to destroy us as a great people and a wonderful civilization.

          • Jefferson

            I do not consider White meth dealers to be part of “my family”. If you consider them “part of your family”, than you are no different than Black people who defend the scum crack dealers of their race and adopt the no snitching rule.

            I do not believe in blind racial loyalty.

          • David Ashton

            All races have good and bad members. Why did you think I said “all homogeneous societies have violent criminals” and that whites should “avoid crime, vice and welfare-scrounging”? Read carefully before you comment.

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            “I do not believe in blind racial loyalty.”

            As an outsider who has formed some immediate impressions, you may be hanging out at the wrong site.

          • Luca

            This is a site for free speech. Blind racial loyalty is an opinion that some are vocal about. Others are not. I’m just looking for the truth/realism and I don’t believe everything that is written here, nor do I share the more radical opinions.

          • Morris LeChat

            he has blind loyalty to jews. Lazar kaganovich and other jewish bolsheviks killed tens of millions of christians in russia, yet he steadfastly insists on remaining blind to that, as well as to so many other things that have been pointed out. He is as blind as they come, he is intellectually dishonest, he links only some polls are articles while hoping others never find the multitudes of polls and article that contradict his. His is a petulant child, that is bitter about something in his life and projects it onto white people.

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            “Lazar kaganovich and other jewish bolsheviks killed tens of millions of christians in russia,”

            I’m not going to research this, at least not now, but let me make sure that I understand your statement correctly …

            A tiny number of Bolshevik Jews killed an enormous number of Russian white Christians. In so doing these Jews had no help from anyone else, and the white Christians simply accepted their fate of being killed by Jews.

            Ri-i-i-i-ght. Got it.

          • MikeofAges

            The major European groups in America today are Anglo-Celtic (my catch-all for British, Scottish and Scotch-Irish), Germans, Scandinavians, Irish, Italians, Slavs, Portuguese, Dutch and Jews. There are other nationalities as well with smaller populations. And some “whites” who are not European at all. All one giant family? Maybe not. But all can get along. Above all, no one seriously complains because one group predominates or succeeds differentially in one or the other business, vocation or profession. Or fears displacement at the hands of another group.

          • David Ashton

            You get quarrels in families, and civil wars can be the most savage. But white folk do need to get along and prevent their own common racial suicide in all the hitherto “white” countries.
            As I write I can see on my other desk the London “Daily Mail”, November 9, 2012, headline: “THE SLOW DEATH OF WHITE AMERICA”. This “Limey” stands with you “Yanks” over this.

          • pcmustgo

            No, it means the Russian culture has been really screwed by poverty and a culture of corruption, brutal regimes, alcohlism, etc.

          • pcmustgo

            The Russians have been through hell.

          • Morris LeChat

            yes, the jews diverted the bus that was russian civilization, to hell. One of the drivers was lazar kaganovich.

          • Defoe

            Who was Lev Bronstein?

          • David Ashton

            Trotsky was not involved in the starvation of Ukrainians. He grew up on a Ukrainian farm. Stalin secured his expulsion from the Soviet Central Committee in 1927, later accused him of conspiracy with the Nazis (!) and got him murdered in exile in Mexico in 1940.

          • Luca

            The Russians suffered from Communism which is an extreme form of Liberalism/Socialism. We are getting a dose of it now and are in the incubation stage. if not stopped and treated soon we will succumb to the same illness.

          • gemjunior

            Slavs certainly have a lower IQ than Jews in most cases, as all European Whites do. It’s because Jews practice eugenics, believe it or not. You can read about this in several articles by Kevin McDonald, who does a wonderful job of explaining how.

          • C N

            Why is it that Slavic, or European Whites, are perfectly capable of building and maintaining a prosperous, healthy 1st world civilization without Jews, yet Jews are not capable of these same acts and ALWAYS want to live in societys created by these “low IQ” Whites?

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            “It’s because Jews practice eugenics, believe it or not.”

            Yes — It’s called “taste”.

            Instead of just throwing dice to pick a mate, Jews tend to encourage their daughters to marry a “nice Jewish doctor”. Honestly now — is that “practicing eugenics”? Or do you believe it is better to practice “mongrelization of the races”.

            I’ll stop here for tonight, folks. My blood is beginning to boil.

          • David Ashton

            As someone always opposed to “mongrelization” of the primary races, may I help to reduce your BP by pointing out that white Gentiles could actually learn something from “Jewish eugenics” as documented by such diverse writers as John Glad and Anthony Ludovici, and as shown by current counselling to reduce Tay-Sachs disease?

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            All intelligent racial groups practice eugenics, as you’re calling it. My reaction was to your choice of term, which is semantically charged in a negative way.

            And I don’t need to read such diverse writers and John Glad and Anthony Ludovici — half my family was Jewish, and my mother herself wanted me to marry a nice Jewish girl instead of hooking up with a Quaker as I did 53 years ago.

          • David Ashton

            The Galton Institute struggled to find an alternative roseate term for “eugenics” and gave up. Can you think of anything better?

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            “Can you think of anything better?”

            Yes — breeding. It’s the term that’s been in use since before the Civil War by people who are concerned about, and who practice, good breeding.

          • Defoe

            That word works for farm animals and dogs, I guess it’s good enough for people, huh? I do remember my grandma, a Southern lady, using that phrase. She would admonish me not to date “so-and -so” because her people were not “well bred”. Of course, she didn’t understand my aims.

          • Morris LeChat

            hmmmm. so the starvation death of 30 million Ukrainian Christians in the Holodomor was just a matter of “taste”. Wow, I have to take a screenshot of this, in the future, people will not believe the amount of arrogance jews had.

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            I think that it was around 3.5 million Ukranian deaths under Stalin due to starvation, my belief being that Stalin repatriated the grain so that Ukranians would starve instead of Russians.

            No, I haven’t researched the numbers but I’d be stunned if there had been 30 million Ukranians to begin with, forget starvation.

          • Defoe

            The grain was sold to sources outside of Russia.

          • MikeofAges

            No innocents on the naked planet, my friend. This is getting a little far afield, but read applied physicist Stanton Friedman’s “Flying Saucers and Science”. In the course presenting a “race realist” explanation for why advanced beings from another world might not want open contact with our world, he comes up with a pretty good description of what life on earth is all about for the advanced species, us. He sums it up as this ” … a primitive species whose major preoccupation is tribal warfare.”

          • Defoe

            Are you a fan of Friedman? Having read some of his work, I am ambivalent. Not sure if he is part of a disinformation campaign or not. What do you think?

          • MikeofAges

            Stanton Friedman’s interpretation of the reasons why an extraterrestrial civilization might be interested in our world is pretty solid. Does that proves that they exist and are here? No. Not at all.

            One thing to keep in mind, however. If there are extraterrestrials visiting or observing Earth, they are not human beings. You cannot automatically expect them to act on the basis of human motives and human patterns of behavior. Even so, if you expected them to act on the basis of human motives or something close to them, they still might be loath to land on the White House lawn or some other place of similar significance. Friedman’s hack on job on science fiction writers Asimov, Bova and Clarke is classic. Clarke gets pretty good treatment considering.

          • C N

            Is that so? Slavs are perfectly capable of building and maintaining their own civilizations without billions of dollars of confiscated money from White Americans, unlike Israel who is unable to create or build anything withou

          • Jefferson

            Slavs murder more people than Israeli Jews do.

            Compare the per capita homicide rates in Ukraine and Russia to that of Israel.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

            Russia even has a higher per capita murder rate than The United States, a country that has over 100 million Black and Brown people.

            Russia as a nation is a disgrace. Russia is not even considered a fully developed nation according to the human development index.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

          • David Ashton

            Russia has been through a century of grueling experiences, remember. The massively dysgenic effects of communism, WW2 destruction, and post-communist criminality. National recovery will depend on a rapid (if unlikely) birth-rate increase combined with an exclusion of non-white migrants.

          • http://www.lexonaut.com/ Lexonaut

            “unlike Israel who is unable to create or build anything without outside non-Jewish help.”

            Utter nonsense … And they built the American A-bomb as well as the Israeli A-bomb … and they invented reactive tank armor … and the use of UAVs and camera drones … all so they could more easily eat the flesh and drink the blood of innocent Palestinian children, whose parents are guilty of nothing more than seeking to safely store expended munitions within the borders of the Zionist Entity.

            You’re sick. Your real enemies are in DC and Riyadh, not Tel Aviv.

          • Defoe

            Part of the low Israeli murder rate might be because so many of its citizens carry weapons. I have been to many, many business meetings in Israel, and you would be surprised how many of the participants are “carrying”, both men and women. Love it.

    • White Mom in WDC

      I really wanted to go. Will be at the next one.

      The diversity experiment in America is a failure. A big lie. To speak the truth that America was better when it was all white is to be called a racist.

      Our government is the enemy of the white middle class. It is a separate self-serving entity that functions to usurp mobility from working white Americans. It’s power must be deflated.

      • JohnEngelman

        White working Americans are losing ground economically because the rich whites who own America and run the economy are exporting good jobs while importing cheap labor. The government allows that to happen, but it does not cause it to happen.

        • Nathanwartooth

          Actually it does. Businesses aren’t moral or immoral. They are not good or evil. They merely always act in their self interest.

          If congress passes a law that lets them move manufacturing out of the US and pay third worlders 2 dollars an hour instead of course they are going to do it.

          Even if companies resisted at first, after the first company did it the rest would have to follow suit to match prices.

          • JohnEngelman

            Those who vote Republican are voting to increase the wealth and power of the plutocracy.

          • Nathanwartooth

            Neither does taxing rich people.

            The only thing that creates wealth for the middle class is a shortage of workers. Then companies have to pay higher wages to compete for the few workers there are.

            Those who vote Democrat are voting for more immigrants, more globalization and more workers.

            Both sides are working against us. But go ahead and think that the Democrats are the good guys who just love the middle class. They don’t.

          • JohnEngelman

            Although the average standard of living has declined since President Clinton left office, corporations are making record profits, and America’s rich are richer than ever before. Unfortunately, they are not hiring people because people are not buying.

            Raising taxes on the rich and spending the money in ways that benefit those who are not rich will create better consumers. As these buy more employers will hire more people to produce and sell what is bought.

          • Nathanwartooth

            That logic just isn’t right.

            If it was, many European countries wouldn’t have an unemployment rate of 25%.

            Not to mention people buying more things does not equal them hiring more people. Which is pretty obvious when you see how much more profit these companies are making but we have had stagnant wages for over 10 years. If they needed more production they would open up a new factory in the China, not the US.

            Like I said the ONLY thing that makes them want to pay more money per worker is worker shortages. Why pay more money per employee when you have hundreds of people applying for the same job.

            The second part of that is to force a tariff on goods that enter the US so it is more profitable to make something here than it would be to make it in China.

            If you still think that higher taxes on the rich are the feel good all purpose remedy to all of our problems just remember that over 50% of federal taxes go straight to the military anyway. So only a relatively small number of people even benefit from selling the military a 100 million dollar drone.

          • JohnEngelman

            Nathanwartooth,

            You mentioned three issues.

            First of all, I favored the North American Free Trade Agreement at the time, but now I think it was a bad idea. Arguments presented against it at the time have been substantiated by subsequent events. If an American company moves production to another country I think it should pay high tariffs if it sells the produce in the United States.

            Second, taxes in Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark are higher than in Greece and Spain.

            https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html?countryName=Denmark&countryCode=da&regionCode=eur&rank=12#da

            Unemployment in those four countries is much lower.

            https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2129rank.html?countryName=Denmark&countryCode=da&regionCode=eur&rank=67#da

            In the United States during the 1950s the top tax rate never got below 84.4 percent, and was usually 91 percent.

            http://www.ctj.org/pdf/regcg.pdf

            During this time unemployment fluctuated from 2.9 percent in 1953 to 6.8 percent in 1958.

            Third, in 2012 the defense budget in the United States was 25 percent.

            http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/defense_budget_2012_3.html

          • David Ashton

            NAFTA, Obama…kept on living and learning, and you might get there in the end.

          • Defoe

            “Unemployment in those four countries is much lower.”

            The demographics in those four countries is much different from those of the US making any kind of useful comparisons difficult.

          • Luca

            Rewarding failure does not produce success. Punishing success does not promote greater success. For all your eloquence you lack common sense.

            Suppose you had 5 kids and they all had chores to do and you paid them all a weekly allowance. The first 3 kids work hard and earn their allowance. the other two are lazy and do nothing and yet you pay them. The first 3 will quickly feel this is an unfair arrangement. you can tell them the other 2 are disadvantaged or unfortunate all you want but even a child knows this is patently unfair.

            And so you propose the same thing on a larger scale. The more successful you are, the less you get to enjoy the fruits of your labor, risk and intelligence.

            The more you make the more you must share with the lazy so they can spend it as they see fit. The less effort you put forth and the less you produce, the more you are rewarded. These axioms defy the laws of nature. Only an eloquent Liberal intellectual could come up with so stupid a premise.

            Poor people generally have poor IQ’s, habits, culture, work ethics, education, and or drive. rich people are motivated, successful, have considerable IQ’s work hard etc. etc. etc.

            There is of course, a commons sense happy medium, but common sense is in short supply as illustrated by your comments. You sound like you are reading straight out of a manifesto.

            Have you heard of this Cherokee legend:

            “A Grandfather was sitting by the fire with his two young grandsons, teaching them about the difference between good and bad, positive and negative. The Grandfather tells his grandchildren, “There is a good wolf and a bad wolf living inside each of us. The good wolf is love, compassion, courage, generosity, fortitude, discipline, laughter and every worthy virtue a human being is capable of. The bad wolf is anger, hatred, laziness, jealousy, envy, greed, sloth and other vices a human being is capable of. In each and every one of us, these two wolves are engaged in a fierce battle.”

            Sitting on the edge of their seats the two grandsons, hardly able to contain their anticipation, blurted out excitedly, “Which wolf gets to win Grandfather!?”

            “The one you feed”, the Grandfather answered. “The one you feed.”

          • JohnEngelman

            Luca,

            Your common sense homilies do not explain why since the inauguration of Franklin Roosevelt there has usually been more economic growth and job creation under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents.

            I do not believe that since Bill Clinton left office the rich have started working harder, and everyone else has gotten lazy. What I do believe is that an economy and a society where the rich get richer while the average standard of living declines is unhealthy and unstable.

          • Luca

            I’m not trying to explain it. I’m using common sense. If you’ve studied economics (as I have) you’ll find there are thousands of different variables that make a market, a company, a person or a society succeed or fail. But there are some basics. I speak of basics, so as to not get tangled in a web of anecdotes, minutiae and exceptional exceptions.

            Natural basics: reward success or failure and you’ll get more of it.

            Plain and simple, prima facie, no need to Google that one and dredge up minor or complicated details.

          • JohnEngelman

            Poor people generally have poor IQ’s, habits, culture, work ethics, education, and or drive. rich people are motivated, successful, have considerable IQ’s work hard etc. etc. etc.

            - Luca

            Whenever I point out that IQ matters, and that Orientals and Jews tend to have higher IQs than white Gentiles I am buried by a landslide of insults. I do not recall you coming to my assistance.

          • Luca

            I agree with you, but I am not spellbound by IQ as you are. I’ve told you before, IQ is a very important factor but other things must be considered such as common sense, education, hard work, ethics, persistence, risk-taking, morality, and logic etc..

            Throughout history there have been many evil men with high IQ’s.

          • Carlos Geary

            I found information regarding IQ by country: http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/edu_ave_iq-education-average-iq&b_printable=1

            Showing latest available data.
            Rank – Countries – IQ Amount

            # 1 China – Hong Kong: 107
            # 2 Korea, South: 106
            # 3 Japan: 105
            # 4:
            = 4 Italy: 102
            = 4 Germany: 102
            = 4 Austria: 102
            = 4 Netherlands: 102
            # 8 Belgium: 100
            = 8 China – Mainland: 100
            = 8 New Zealand: 100
            # 11 Hungary: 99
            = 12 Denmark: 98
            = 12 Mongolia: 98
            = 12 Australia: 98
            = 12 France: 98
            = 16 Czech Republic:97
            = 16 Finland: 97
            = 16 Canada: 97
            # 19 Argentina: 96
            # 20 Israel: 94
            = 21 Bulgaria: 93
            = 21 Greece: 93
            = 21 Ireland: 93
            # 24 Malaysia: 92
            # 25 Croatia: 90
            = 26 Colombia: 89
            = 26 Indonesia: 89
            = 28 Iraq: 87
            = 28 Brazil: 87
            = 28 Mexico: 87
            # 31 Lebanon: 86
            = 32 Cuba: 85
            = 32 Morocco: 85
            = 34 Iran: 84
            = 34 Fiji: 84
            = 34 Marshall Islands: 84
            # 37 Egypt: 83
            # 38 India: 81
            # 39 Ecuador: 80
            # 40 Guatemala: 79
            = 41 Barbados: 78
            = 41 Nepal: 78
            # 43 Congo, Republic of the: 73
            = 44 Jamaica: 72
            = 44 Kenya: 72
            # 46 Ghana: 71
            # 47 Nigeria: 67
            # 48 Guinea: 66
            # 49 Congo, Democratic Republic of the: 65
            # 50 Ethiopia: 63
            # 51 Equatorial Guinea: 59
            Weighted average:
            88.1

          • JohnEngelman

            Carlos,

            Thank you. I have been aware of that chart for some time. The average IQ on Taiwan is 104.
            http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

            Because IQ is slightly effected by standard of living, as the economy of China improves I believe the average IQ of China will improve by several points.

          • MariaOConnor

            China should not be divided in Hong Kong and Mailand. Countries with longer compulsory schooling have higher IQ.
            Is very hard to measure inteligence in non western societies, because IQ test are cultural biased, but is important that students in poor areas / countries
            remain in school longer time.

          • David Ashton

            Chiang took his elite to tiny Taiwan.

            Chinese mainland 100, Israel 94. Worth all the same old selective quotes from Rushton &c.

          • MikeofAges

            I am of Jewish descent myself, but I find it irritating and offensive that you insist on constantly connecting your arguments about the role of IQ (which everyone here agrees with, some with specific reservations) with your harping about Jewish and East Asian performance on this measure. All you are doing is endlessly repeating the same rudimentary Aristotelian-democratic universalist cant. Society is not a product. People are not fungible.

          • David Ashton

            Are any of the Superior Chosen People “richer than ever before”?

          • David Ashton

            Does this “plutocracy” have any percentage of your Chosen People?

          • http://azzmador.com/ Azzmador

            Pat Buchana is absolutely correct when he says America must return to economic nationalism. Of course, the Republicans are so afraid of the real n word (nationalism) that they begged him to refer to it as “economic patriotism.”

            Suicide of a Superpower: Pat Buchanan on the Death of Western Civilization

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GG1rFA_QEk

          • Morris LeChat

            It seems we have the people on the left, that say the superior abilities and achievements of whites means that whites must live for the benefit of other races and ethnicities, and then we have john englemean, that says no countries defined as white should exist at all, since others are known to score higher on IQ tests.

        • pcmustgo

          And most “whites” are too busy watching reality tv to get the message… or rise up or care.

        • MBlanc46

          The government really is an enabler. Without “free trade” legislation, this couldn’t have happened. Of course, the corporate elite are, to a considerable extent, the paymasters of the political elite.

          • Nathanwartooth

            Yeah when the corporations starting lobbying congress and making their own rules things went south real quick.

            But that just shows how easily congress can turn on the American people when a few dollars are shoved in their face.

          • MBlanc46

            I’m sceptical that Congress can “turn on” the American people. Congress has always been the instrument of the elites. It was designed that way.

        • David Ashton

          Do these “rich whites” include any members of your Superior Race?

    • pcmustgo

      It’s amazing how much you can tell about PEOPLE just by what they look like. What they think of you (black racial hostility), what music they are into, etc.

  • Luca

    The Racial problems have always been with us, but we haven’t always lied about them. I think it is the infiltration of Liberals (Marxists, Socialists, Progressives, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists etc) into Hollywood, academia, politics and media, that has pushed this agenda of lies unrelentingly for the last 50 years. They do it to pander to the ignorant masses who become useful voting idiots.

    Liberalism is a cult that is destroying our way of life. Liberalism has always been steeped in good talk and failed theories when what we need is action based on proven success. It has a record of failure so spectacular that only a pathological liar could deny it.

    Until the Liberals are brought under control in this country, they will continue with the insane destructive lies and policies.

    • JohnEngelman

      The Second World War discredited the general belief that racial differences mattered, because the Nazis thought that way. Also, blacks contributed loyally to the war effort.

      During the early civil rights movement segregationists did a bad job of getting their message out. It was difficult for them to convince whites with little experience with blacks that most blacks were dangerous when segregationists responded violently to peaceful civil rights demonstrations.

      The black ghetto riots that happened from 1964 to 1968 did not have more of an effect on white attitudes because the tragic futility of the War in Vietnam caused many whites to move to the left.

      Since the Rodney King riots of 1992 there have not been large black ghetto riots, and the rate of violent crime has declined.

      The persistence of de facto segregation means that most whites still have little experience of blacks. When blacks are in the minority most try to behave.

      These factors are more important than the effect of the popular culture and the media in shaping white attitudes. Political messages only resonate when they tell people what they want to believe, and what they sense to be true from their lives.

      • Nathanwartooth

        There have been many riots but they get contained faster and the media doesn’t harp on them. The one recently when that kid Grey got shot in NYC went on for three days and had hundreds of Blacks rioting.

        True there hasn’t been one of that scale since the Rodney King riots but there have been plenty of smaller ones.

        • Non Humans

          It’s just a matter of time before we see another on that scale. Katrina probably would have been it, but tons of water beez raaayciss…too.

      • Cid Campeador

        John,

        The rate of violent crime only APPEARS to have decreased because the media doesn’t report them and because “liars figure”. If anything, law abiding innocent people are in more danger on city streets in parks or even their own houses than ever before and anyone who can’t see that is either blind, insane or living a fantasy.

        Riots are still breaking out except that now they’re being brought to shopping Malls or in shopping and restaurant areas of cities where White and other non-Blacks people gather. The crime rate of the far Northeast Philadelphia has increased drastically due to the opening of the Franklin Mills Mall in that area several years ago. Black on White assaults and robberies committed at that Mall have greatly increased the crime statistics of the entire area.

        These preplanned out breaks of violence that are now called “Flash Mobs” used to be called “riots”. Flash Mobs were originally done by talented people who would break into song or dance or both, to the delight of shoppers in Malls, train stations and other public places. See You Tube videos of the Flash Mob performances in the Reading Terminal market in once great Philadelphia. Members of the Philadelphia Opera Co. mixing in among the shoppers suddenly break out in a rendering of the Brindisi “Libbiamo” from La Traviata and on another occasion, the Toreador Song from Bizet’s Carmen.

        The Press calls these new phenomena “fights” as though they’re battles between willing participants instead of wanton, violent beat downs of innocent White and Asian victims. There’s one video of a White girl being punched and kicked by a gang of “female” ( “girl” suggests a degree of femininity ) Blacks while pusillanimous Whites walk by pretending they don’t see it. Not one passerby offered her help. It was reminiscent of the brutal sexual assault and murder of Kitty
        Genovese in NY who screamed for help while craven White people looked on from
        the safety of their apartments and didn’t even call the police.

        White won’t defend themselves either because they’re afraid of sustaining injury to themselves and /or they don’t want to be seen as racist due to years of conditioning by our educational system , the media and our so called “leaders”. Yea they’re leading us all right; directly to Hell and we keep voting them in.

        We’ve got to stop this fatalistic posture as though our demise is inevitable. This “it’s all over for us” mentality serves only to embolden those who read these posts.

        We must be filled with “the terrible resolve” that Admiral Yamamoto is credited with saying.

        • JohnEngelman

          I get my figures on crime from FBI, Uniform Crime Reports.

          http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

          I doubt that these have become less accurate and honest since 1960. They have probably become more accurate as better methods of recording crimes have been developed.

          A person accessing this website may conclude that rates of black crime are increasing. That is because a black crime anywhere in the United States if not the world is often reported here. I have contributed some of those reports myself. Nevertheless, better reporting of an event does not mean that the event is increasing in frequency.

          • Tom_in_Miami

            “Nevertheless, better reporting of an event does not mean that the event is increasing in frequency.”

            Nor does it mean the contrary. To get an accurate picture one sometimes has to open his eyes and stray out of his normal habitat.

          • IstvanIN

            NYC “loses” crimes down grades the charges to make it seem crime has dropped.

          • Vyncennt

            There was much less theft, rape, assault, and murder in Philadelphia in the 70′s, 80′s, and 90′s then there is now. Maybe you will find a different set of published numbers. I personally don’t care. I have lived here for 40 years and personally witnessed it.

          • a multiracial individual

            It seems we have a paradox. More Hispanics, less crime.

          • Non Humans

            There is also the possibility that more crimes are going unreported. The exceptionally crime-tendent nonhumans seem to be more concentrated nowadays, in large pockets of urban areas.
            .
            Nearly uniformly, they have made it clear that they don’t want a (raaayciss) police presence in their communities. TBH, most cops probably don’t want to be there, either.
            .
            As we all know, murder, rape, robbery, etc is just business as usual in nonhuman communities. Always has been, always will be, worldwide.

          • Gerónimo Anónimo

            Well John that would suggest that anything reported by the FBI is accurate; especially an agency that has connections with the DOJ and Eric Holder. Remember that several NYPD precincts were ordered to under-report violent crime. Why is it so hard to believe that the FBI would be any more forthcoming? Remember that when a non- Black Hispanic commits a violent crime he is often recorded as White.
            In these times if a government official tells you that it’ll be sunny today, I suggest that you look at the window. I have abandoned the “trust but verify” position and stick to “verify”.

        • MBlanc46

          I am very concerned about the flash mobs, but there is certainly a quantitative difference between the flash mobs on Michigan Ave. and the West Side of Chicago burning in 1968.

        • Bad_Mr_Frosty

          “blind, insane or living a fantasy”

          You listening to this John?

      • dmxinc

        “Blacks contributed loyally to the war effort.” Are you aware that fewer than 800 blacks lost their lives in defense of this country during WWII? That many would have been lost by the Russians in a minute during those four years or in the first few minutes of the D-Day invasion by our troops. 50,000,000 people died in that war, but on 700 or so American blacks. A drop in the bucket.

        I’m not going to say they weren’t “loyal.” Of course, it was an easy choice when facing the Japanese or the Nazis who thought of blacks as “subhuman,” so don’t put too much credence in that.

        The fact is most blacks weren’t asked to do much except contribute on the home front or in support roles.
        They may have been willing to put their lives on the line in mass numbers in defense of our nation, but we will never know. We also will not know how effective that contribution would have been. It didn’t work well during the Korean War or Vietnam.

        • Luca

          The stories of black cowardice in Korea and Vietnam, whether they are the acts of black individuals or groups, are tragic legends. They generally resist all forms of “White” authority and think they can make their own rules and do as little as possible.

          To misquote the great General Patton: “I’d rather have an enemy division in front on me, than a black one beside me.”

        • Morris LeChat

          I’d venture to say that the majority of that 800 were actually casualties of other blacks. Blacks were not put in combat roles. They were and still are notorious for infighting and killing each other. There is another informative statistic. out of the 50 or so rapes committed by American servicemen in France, against French women, 49 of them were committed by blacks, who were only a percentage or so of the whole armed forces.

      • Richard Williams

        “The Second World War discredited the general belief that racial differences mattered, because the Nazis thought that way.”

        John, here you go again. The Nazis appeared to have hated Slavs in a very general way, but Slavs are members of the diverse white Europeans just as the Germanic peoples are. Really now, were racial differences the only way they drew lines on population maps as you suggest? The Nazis were able to work well with the peoples you call Orientals…remember Japan?

        Your claim is a constant remark in the anti-German narrative, but no one seems able to cite a disinterested scientist’s researches that document a principal and determining role for racial differences. Whose research are you relying on?

        • Derelictus

          I think JohnEngelman’s point was that the Nazis were turrrrible people, and thus anything they believed (or didn’t believe, it’s the mythology that matters, not actual facts) is, ipso facto, also turrrible, even if some of those things are biologically provable. That fact that Nazi Germany also did good things for their nation and even, dare I say, the Western world at large (note I’m NOT an apologist for their more vicious racialism or Jewish policy!) is verboten to say in public, lest you be labeled as a vicious Racist Genocidist.

          • Morris LeChat

            Engelaman is most likely the descendant of a German who committed atrocities. He seems driven to “make up” for this in the way he puts jews on a pedestal and worships them. Whereas the Nazis had a one dimensional view of them that was negative, he has a one dimensional view of them that is always positive and glowing. HIs view of them is as wrong as the nazis view of them.

      • LastBastionOfHope

        “…there have not been large black ghetto riots since 1992″

        Wow. Really? I guess the media is partly to blame for not covering this, but you do realize exclusively black flash mobs routinely loot, and beat the ever living crap out of every white person they see almost every week right? There are a few websites documenting each one and I believe they are up to around 200 cases in the past few years or so. That’s 20 with an extra 0. TWO-HUNDRED!

        • ProWhite son of Jacob

          Katrina. Never forget what happens when White rule disintegrates.

      • fakeemail

        It wasn’t simply the nazis that discredited the belief in racial differences. Remember, post WWII America before the counter-culture and 65 immigration act was still racialist. It was the long march through the institutions that ultimately made race-realism verboten.

        • David Ashton

          The Cultural Marxists added The Holocaust to Slavery to their armory to induce suicidal white guilt.

          • Defoe

            Look at how incredibly effective it has been. I have read, though I cannot quote the source now, that the cultural marxists specifically chose the black Americans as a “cause” to divide the US. That would explain why the NAACP has had non-black leadership for most of its existence.

          • David Ashton

            Marcuse and his intellectual allies chose blacks, immigrants, sexual minorities and students as the groups to promote an “egalitarian” revolution, instead of the white working-class patriotic and often religious family men who had been bought off by “imperialism”.
            Many documentary sources exist, but just one might suffice: Herbert Marcuse, “An Essay on Liberation” (1969), ch.3. “Subverting forces in transition”.
            Black ghettos (he writes) are “centers from which the struggle can be mounted against targets of economic and political importance”, located for spreading contagious “upheavals”. The “student rebellion” also hits society at “a vulnerable point” (though more ambiguously). As often in Marxian writing there is some truth in his social analysis, but as usual there is little value in the revolutionary strategy or its utopian “aims”. Objectively, as these ideologists themselves phrase it, this amounts to a pretext and fake justification of violent black criminality.

      • MBlanc46

        That’s a pretty nice summary. In addition, I don’t think that a lot of whites want to think much about blacks. They want to think that the deficits are cultural and can be overcome, but they make sure that they don’t have much contact with blacks in their daily lives They ignore it and just hope that it will go away.

      • Luca

        The rate of violent crime has declined in direct correlation to the rising prison population.

        When wild beasts are contained behind the zookeeper’s cages, they have less chance to run around wild and create havoc in our streets.

      • whiteuncleruckus

        If a nazi said one plus one equals two, would people disagree just because a nazi said it? I’m not defending them but bad or evil doesnt necessarily mean stupid.

        • JohnEngelman

          I agree with you. Racial differences are important. Unfortunately, the legacy of the Third Reich made it dangerous to discuss them, and continues to make it dangerous.

          • Defoe

            The civil rights movement culminated in the 60s with the cr act of 1965 but it started way before the second world war. Notice when the NAACP was founded. In fact, one could make the case that it started with the emancipation movement way before the War of Northern Aggression. Even so, I am not sure that WWII changed “popular attitudes”. It was simply another example of big brother government shoving its policies down the throat of the people whether they liked it or not…sort of like Obama-care.

          • JohnEngelman

            The United States government is a democracy. The civil rights movement would not have been successful without broad popular support. That support did not exist before the Second World War. It did exist afterwards.

          • Defoe

            “The United States government is a democracy.”

            Actually, it’s a constitutional republic.

            As has been explained to you many times on this site, public opinion (broad popular support) can be manipulated by the “powers that be”. When the power brokers want to do something, it is not at all difficult to conjure “broad popular support”. Read about the uses of propaganda and the molding of public opinion.

          • JohnEngelman

            Letter to Isaac H. Tiffany

            Thomas Jefferson
            August 26, 1816
            Monticello

            “The introduction of this new principle of representative democracy has rendered useless almost everything written before on the structure of government; and, in a great measure, relieves our regret, if the political writings of Aristotle, or of any other ancient, have been lost, or are unfaithfully rendered or explained to us. My most earnest wish is to see the republican element of popular control pushed to the maximum of its practicable exercise. I shall then believe that our government may be pure and perpetual.”
            http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=2197

            There is no contradiction between a constitutional republic, and a representative democracy. The United States is both.

            It is true that the plutocracy has political power far out of proportion to its numbers in the population. It exerts this power to shape political opinion in the direction of right wing economic values in order to preserve and increase its power and wealth.

          • Defoe

            You wrote, “The United States government is a democracy.” it is not.

    • JohnEngelman

      Until the Liberals are brought under control in this country…

      - Luca

      How do you intend to bring liberals under control? Prison camps? Executions?

      Just wondering.

      • Laguna Beach Fogey

        Prison camps, trials, and executions come later.

        First we will employ methods to knock them down and round them up.

        It’s very do-able.

        The Provisional Government of National Restoration (PGNR) presently has a committee drawing up plans for these sorts of actions.

        • Derelictus

          You’re not helping the cause with comments like those…

          • JohnEngelman

            I was about to say that myself.

        • Vyncennt

          “The Provisional Government of National Restoration (PGNR) presently has a committee drawing up plans for these sorts of actions.”

          I usually make an attempt to be polite. Yet you seem to be permitting the wrong hole to speak for you.

      • IstvanIN

        The people destroying this country are not really liberals. These people are thought-control Marxists who have no respect for freedom, hardly liberal.

        • MBlanc46

          They’re not Marxists. Marxism collapsed in the 1980s and 1990s. But you’re right that the identity politics brigade are not liberal. In the 1950s they’d have been Stalinists.

          • Defoe

            I don’t think Marxism has collapsed at all. I see examples of Marxist thought throughout governmental policy existing and proposed. A prime example of Marxist thought in action in the US is the progressive income tax. That idea is directly out of the Marxist agenda. I could go on and on, but will leave it to you to do your own homework.

          • MBlanc46

            Marxism calls for the classless, stateless, moneyless society. It’s difficult for there to be taxes, progressive or otherwise, when there’s no state to levy them nor any money to pay them. Whatever you’re talking about, it’s not Marxism.

          • David Ashton

            The eventual withering away of state machinery may be an ultimate communist fantasy but “progressive taxation” &c was a step on that road, according to Karl Marx’s own “Communist Manifesto”.

          • MBlanc46

            But it’s the democratic step (“to establish democracy”-sorry, I don’t have the German to hand), and nothing that could be called Marxism (unless you think that democracy is Marxism). And if what you’re trying to say is that those who favor progressive taxation are Marxists because Marx favored progressive taxation (in a special case), you’re committing a simple logical fallacy (undistributed middle). But the real question was the existence of the Marxist movement. In the 1920s and 1930s there were tens of millions of people in Marxist organizations around the world, Today, it’s more like tens of thousands in marginal grouplets mainly on university campuses. If you want to tilt at windmills, fine. Marxism in 2013 is a windmill.

          • Defoe

            You are probably right that “Marxists” per se do not “belong by the 10s of millions to Marxists organizations, but the ideas expounded by Communism/Marxism are everywhere today. Collective thinking is rampant throughout most institutions even in the West. I call that Marxism; you may not.

          • Defoe

            ” But the real question was the existence of the Marxist movement. ”

            No, the real “question ” was your statement that Marxism collapsed in the 80s and 90s. I said it did not. I say Marxism has morphed into many “movements” not the least being the “green movement”. Or so says Vaclav Havel who should know something about Marxism having lived under it for decades.

          • David Ashton

            I am not “trying” to say anything. I simply quoted the Communist Manifesto on progressive taxation to answer a different point of fact. As regards Marx on Democracy, I would refer to the Critique of the Gotha Program.
            You are absolutely right about both the size of parties and fronts affiliated to the Soviet-directed Communist International, compared to the groups on (western) campuses. However, Western Marxism of the 1960s onward has had a considerable ideological impact, and is ultimately responsible for the “equality and diversity” legislation in my own country. Race replaced class as the prime focus of struggle, but the current “crisis of world capitalism” may well see a substantial revival of Marxian thought and organizations; in fact, there are unfortunately straws already in the wind, to adapt your own quixotic metaphor.

          • MBlanc46

            I should think that the responsibility for equality and diversity lies with bourgeois liberalism, not Marxism. Did avowed Marxists support those things? Of course they did. But what brought them to prominence in American politics is liberalism. They both have deep roots in American liberalism, Jefferson and Jackson, especially for the former, Abolitionism for the latter. If you want to call them all Marxists, then “Marxism” has become devoid of meaning.

          • David Ashton

            I don’t want to call non-Marxists “Marxists”.
            That there are some similarities between Marxism and other political or even religious ideologies in this or that respect is well-established.
            Many modern liberals have been suckers for communist “peace, democracy and equality” propaganda, except for those (like e.g. Sidney Hook) dismissed as “cold war liberals”.

          • MBlanc46

            But that does seem to be what you’re trying to do when your call “peace, democracy, and equality” communist ideas. Again, did communists (and Communists) endorse those ideas? Sure they did. But those ideas long predated Marxism and they have all outlasted it. What made Marxism Marxism was the abolition of private property in the means of production. And that idea has no place at all in the modern American (or even European) political world. Because people in the ’30s such as Hook were temporarily attracted to that idea and later abandoned it doesn’t demonstrate that liberalism is Marxism. If anything is shown by these examples, it’s that Marxism retained a good deal of bourgeois liberalism, at least in its vocabulary.

          • David Ashton

            I don’t really see all that much difference in our views.
            The “peace, democracy and equality” slogans I had in mind were those of Soviet propaganda which impressionable minds interpreted in the wrong way.

          • MBlanc46

            I’m always happy to be agreeable. I do find the many references to Marxism these days to be both strictly false and, worse, misleading. Rather than bang on about a long-moribund movement, I want to focus on the what I take to be the real culprits, corporate and political elites. I gather from your other posts that you’re from the UK. I have a bit of knowledge about the UK, having lived there for a couple of years in the ’80s. I’m not sure to what extent the problems of the UK and the US regarding Afro-minorities and immigrants are identical, but it appears that they have many similarities.

          • David Ashton

            The existence of a community descended from slaves is one major difference, though the anti-segregation movement and Stokely Carmichael’s ideas were “adopted” by our “anti-racist” groups. These latter groups were largely New Left/Cultural Marxist in outlook (I had personal experience), though Indian Communists here had a surprisingly important initial post-WW2 role. It was well under way towards the end of the 1980s. The corporate elites and socialist ideologists were effectively allies on the migration issue.
            The pro-immigration and multicultural “academics” in US and UK fertilized one another, and still do.
            Too much to add for a short post.

          • MBlanc46

            Your Afro-Caribbean population are descended from slaves, are they not? I work in academic publishing and see some of the influence of British academics in multiculturalism and identity politics. I guess it’s an open question as to which of us is in a more deplorable situation.

          • Defoe

            ‘Marxism calls for the classless, stateless, moneyless society.”

            Those things are the ultimate goals of Marxism, but getting there is where they implement their methods. Getting there is, of course, impossible since we are dealing with humans and not automatons.

            A progressive income tax is surely one of tenets of Marxism as exemplified by one of their mottos…”from each according to his ability, to each according to his need”.

          • MBlanc46

            The Marxian Communist principle of distribution has nothing whatever to do with taxation for the reasons stated above.

          • Defoe

            It is obviously a start. To say that “The Marxian Communist principle of distribution has nothing to do with the progressive income tax simply doesn’t make sense. You are speaking of Marxism in its purist form, which has never has and will never exist. I am talking about how “they” intend to get to that pure form.

            You are either being obtuse, trying to show off your “knowledge” of Marxist thought, are a sophomore or just sophomoric, or simply a polemic. I care not which.

            I tire of this bs. It’s a waste of my time. Be off.

          • MBlanc46

            You started the BS with your trolling. I won’t miss you.

        • Non Humans

          That’s pretty well put, except that true marxists wouldn’t tout the “Free-Thinking” lines that all libtards do. They (libtards) are hypocritical in that aspect, though. The second they stop flapping their self-righteous babble, that’s supposed to be the end of the discussion.
          .
          The trick is to remind them of this “Free-Thinking, Open-Mindedness” that they so proudly (hypocritically) flaunt. Then that will allow you to discredit them with the fatcs that they don’t want to hear. In time, it can become effective at destroying them and their arguments. I’ve done it to libtards that I know countless times.

    • gemjunior

      You have said it very clearly. I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head. They’re utterly destructive, and they’ve destroyed the country.

  • Richard Williams

    “Americans live by lies. Or they are ignorant. Or they deliberately refuse to think. There may even be conscious deception, borne out of a sense of noblesse oblige or misplaced morality. Whatever the reason, race has been removed from any serious policy discussion.”

    This statement possesses some accuracy, but discourse about race is everywhere in America. Little morality tales appear on TV news programs & entertainment, and across the board in “explaining” differences between various demographic affinity groups. We can’t pick up the daily newspaper in San Jose, Washington, New York, or San Francisco without reading about race. And the discussion has a name….the anti-white narrative….along with pitying the oppressed of this country as vibrant & unrecognized contributors.

    The real story is that the diverse white Americans have a fundamental difference from many other groups, and it has proven to be a stumbling block for us. The difference is that our reaction to the sound of a child’s crying overwhelms most of our orderly thought. We couldn’t possibly cry or moan or whine enough to distract members of other demographic affinity groups. Sounds like a simple-minded analysis, but ask yourself: does social discourse directed to our attention differ in one whit from baby-talk? Real whining or fake crying, it serves to de-center us from our white centricity and our white voice.

    Let’s stop blaming ourselves, especially for the quality that sets Europeans apart from Asians & Africans….namely we care very much for children…we just have a hard time focusing on our own in the midst of all the caterwauling. When we develop a ten-step recovery program for the diverse white Americans to toughen up on whining & crying appearances, we’ll be able to shake off the manipulations by other peoples. Where is that vaccine?

    “Even the most fundamental questions about the nature of our society cannot be answered because we refuse even to consider race.”

    As a matter of fact, the anti-white narrative explicitly demands that “race & racism” be accounted the fundamental basis for impossible demands for “equality.” We are swamped with talk of race….we are suffocated with talk of racism.

    “Race must retake its central place in the public debate. We cannot make public policy without acknowledging it.”

    But race is the central point of our society…it’s just not the kind of talk about race that we believe to be more balanced, rational, and scientific.

    • JohnEngelman

      Let’s stop blaming ourselves, especially for the quality that sets Europeans apart from Asians & Africans….namely we care very much for children.

      - Richard Williams

      I assure you most Orientals care about their children. They have lower rates of illegitimacy and divorce than whites.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Picking the right mate and staying with them is correlated with both partners IQ, not level of caring for their children.

      • Richard Williams

        The actual comment said this which you have left out:

        “The real story is that the diverse white Americans have a fundamental
        difference from many other groups, and it has proven to be a stumbling
        block for us. The difference is that our reaction to the sound of a
        child’s crying overwhelms most of our orderly thought.”

        Provide even one major instance in which Asians, undoubtedly a wonderful people, set aside caring for their own children because they were hypnotized by the crying & whining of others. They may care for their own children, but they are not distracted by others. I’ve never seen evidence that they cared about mine. We care far too much about theirs.

        • Vyncennt

          “They may care for their own children, but they are not distracted by others. ”

          A quality we may be wise to emulate…

        • JohnEngelman

          Orientals do not need your help in supporting their children. Most of them make more money than whites because of their superior intelligence. They have lower rates of illegitimacy and divorce than whites too.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            But they can only do this in a White nation so their success is not a reflection of them but of Whites allowing them to go abroad and be successful. They don’t make nothing in their home countries, the places they created.

            They have superior intelligence? Yet nobody wants to go to China and nobody in China really wants to be there. The Chinese are thoroughly impressed with The West, everything they have now is a result of other people’s ideas and technology. If it not for Western innovation China would be in the middle ages forever.

            As a collective they are not smart, inventive or impressive in any way.

          • JohnEngelman

            You said earlier that I repeat my arguments. The arguments that high rates of Jewish and Oriental success in the United States is somehow illegitimate is repeated again and again.

            The truth is that they tend to be more successful than white Gentiles because they tend to be intelligent than white Gentiles. All of the relevant evidence, including much I have found on this website, confirms that.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            So your argument is that Chinese do well in America because they are smarter than Whites but they don’t do well at all in China where they are the complete majority, of 1.5 billion Chinese maybe a few hundred thousand live a life on par with Western standards.

            This is counterproductive to your argument; if they were so smart China would be the most advanced nation on Earth with a standard of living and human rights so high that people would be jumping out of planes to be a part of.

            The Chinese do terribly when amongst their own in their own country but put them in a Western country and they do well…

            You make your own arguments sound absurd when you try to back them up too much.

            Just keep quiet and be the self loathing person you are in silence.

          • JohnEngelman

            This will be another one of my arguments that I have repeated, but it remains true.

            During the days of the Roman Empire extraterritorial visitors to our planet would have probably determined that the Roman Empire and the Han Dynasty in China were technically comparable.

            During the Middle Ages in the West, extraterritorial visitors would have almost certainly agreed that the Liao Dynasty in China was superior.

            European civilization did not really surpass those of the mid east and far east until the Renaissance.

            While this was happening the Chinese, having recently liberated themselves from the Mongolians, were becoming xenophobic. They thought they had nothing of value to learn from other countries, and looked to the past.

            This contributed to Chinese weakness in responding to Western and Japanese aggression during the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.

            Right now, however, China is in the ascendancy just as the United States is in decline.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            You’re wrong but that is what liars do, they lie. China was never ever on par with The Roman Empire in technical achievement, they were not on par with Rome’s predecessors even, classical Greece.

            If you knew more about history you might know that the renaissance was a realization and rediscovery of the glory of Roman architecture, arts and sciences.

            The accomplishments of The Middle Ages in Europe is more impressive than China’s, long and mostly unimportant history. Few things that have come out of China have relevance in today’s modern world. China never developed science beyond basics and even then much of it is ritualistic.

            Do you see ascendancy in China? It is a dirty, polluted, primitive country with way too many people and way too little human rights to ever be a beacon of desire for humanity.

            I challenge you to give us specific elements and examples of China that are so impressive and would never have been realized without the brains of the mighty Chinese.

            That country is a hole that even with their cheating ways still won’t ever be anything I or most any Westerner will ever admire.

          • David Ashton

            It is now thought that Marco Polo did not travel around Cathay after all.

          • JohnEngelman

            Skeptics have wondered if Marco Polo actually went to China or if he perhaps wrote his book based on hearsay. While Polo describespaper money and the burning of coal, he fails to mention the Great Wall of China, Chinese characters, chopsticks, or footbinding. [31]Yet, if the purpose of Polo’s tales was to impress others with tales of his high esteem for an advanced civilization, then it is possible that Polo shrewdly would omit those details that would cause his listeners to scoff at the Chinese with a sense of European superiority. Besides, Marco lived among the Mongol elite. Foot binding was rare even among Chinese during Polo’s time and almost unknown among the Mongols. The Great Walls were built to keep out northern invaders, whereas the ruling dynasty during Marco Polo’s visit were those very northern invaders. Researchers note that the Great Wall familiar to us today is a Ming structure built some two centuries after Marco Polo’s travels. The Mongol rulers whom Polo served controlled territories both north and south of today’s wall, and would have no reasons to maintain any fortifications that may have remained there from the earlier dynasties.[32] Other Europeans who traveled to Khanbaliq during the Yuan Dynasty, such as Giovanni de’ Marignolli and Odoric of Pordenone, said nothing about the wall either.[32]

            Supporters of the book’s basic accuracy have replied in even greater force. University of Tübingen sinologist and historian Hans Ulrich Vogel argued that Polo’s description of paper money and salt production supported his presence in China because he included details which he could not have gotten otherwise.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo#Debate

            Even if Marco Polo made the whole thing up there is plenty of other evidence that the civilizations of the Far East and the Near East were more advanced than European civilization was during the period of time from the fall of the Western Roman Empire to the Italian Renaissance. That would be from the fifth century to the fourteenth century.

          • Defoe

            We are talking about averages in IQ; given that there are many more Whites in the world than there are Japanese, it follows that there are far more Whites with IQs above the average than there are Japanese.

            Your generalizations are ridiculous.

          • David Ashton

            To use your own language, I am “confident” that Jews and Chinese in the US are successful not ONLY because they are clever but ALSO because they help one another ethno-centrically. Same with less intelligent groups. Nothing surprising about this.

      • Maj Allen E. Wilson

        Ever heard of Pearl Harbor? Maybe some of the extreme brutality of the Japanese in WWII? Somehow, I doubt many WWII vets would agree with your assessments re Orientals. Reality is the best teacher.

        • Anonymous

          Most of today’s Japanese weren’t even born back then just as none of today’s White people was alive during slavery and many weren’t around during Jim Crow. The nuking of two cities wasn’t exactly benign on our part especially since it was done at least as far as Nagasaki, to send the Soviets a message.

          • MikeofAges

            My thesis on this issue is that the Japanese war cabinet did not want to surrender after the first atomic bomb because they needed to know that the United States was able to make not just one or two atomic bombs, but a steady supply of them. The point is, they knew that it might be possible to collect together enough U-235 by experimental methods to produce one or two bombs whereas once a plutonium bomb was produced, the jig was up.

            Reportedly, some in the Japanese cabinet wanted to wait until the second bomb had been studied by their scientists. What this seems to mean to me is that they wanted to determine whether it was plutonium bomb. They were not idiots. They must have made preliminary determination already based on the blast characterisitics that it was a plutonium bomb, but wanted to make sure.

            The Japanese wanted above all the avoid occupation. The end game was that they wanted to keep the war going long enough that the American public would rebel against the “Home Front” restrictions and demand that the American government negotiate an end to the war now that Japan was no longer a threat to America or interests and allies in the Far East.

            The presence of the Soviet Union in the war had a large role in prompting the Japanese to surrender. Stalin had told the West that 90 days after the end of the war in Europe, the Soviet Union would declare war on Japan and start hostilities. As an ally in the war, Stalin did everything he said he was going to do. He commenced hostilities against the Japanese in Manchuria on August 9, 1945. The Red Army ran over Japan’s best divisions like they weren’t there.

            At that point, the Japanese realized that they were facing not only occupation but division into zones of occupation, with the Soviet Union occupying the northern part of their country. It was only at that point, as the Japanese realized that they now were facing alone the greatest agglomeration of force the world had ever seen, and might ever see, that the decision to surrender was made. The decision was made by the emperor. Even so, there were factions in the Japanese government and military that did not want to surrender, ever.

            I personally think that if the Japanese had been fighting only the United States they might not have surrendered even with the atomic bomb campaign.

          • Morris LeChat

            the nuking of two cities was indeed benign. The japanese were prepared to suffer millions of casualties fighting us on their homeland. We would have lost at least a million men. When they realized we could inflict the casualties on them without suffering hardly any losses, there was no longer any point to holding out. We had them, and they knew it. In the end, it was war, and the purpose of war is to defeat the enemy, it is not to be “benign”. One’s own side always comes first.

        • JohnEngelman

          A tsunami that followed a massive earthquake last month may have destroyed some of Japan’s structures, but police say the honest practice of turning in lost items, especially cash, remains intact.

          Residents have turned in lost cash across the tsunami zone at a much higher rate than usual, the Miyagi Prefectural Police Department tells CNN.

          Between March 12, the day following the earthquake and tsunami, and March 31, those nine police stations [on the Pacific coastline] collected 10 times the amount of lost cash collected at the other 15 stations combined.
          http://www.amren.com/news/2011/04/japanese_citize/

          • Morris LeChat

            so they are not haitians, who went on killing, raping robbing and murdering sprees as soon as they saw the police were crippled by the quake. So what is your point? We are not haitians either, at least the white people aren’t. Sure, there is video of people looting stores in New Orleans and in NYC before, during and after hurricanes, and they are always videos and pictures of blacks, so what is your point? We are not black.

        • Derelictus

          Because whites in history have always been immaculately well-behaved and never committed atrocities against other races? Come off it. Modern Japan is highly civilized and very attuned to the needs of their children, certainly moreso than America today. One reason being, of course, that modern Japan is still 99.9% Japanese and still (justifiably) suspicious of foreigners.

        • Vyncennt

          You have knowledge of wars devoid of extreme brutality? This is news indeed!

          We once were at war with England. Extremely brutal acts were committed. Shall we reassess the English?

        • Morris LeChat

          shhhhh, Engleman thinks that the Japanese, because they have a higher IQ, won the war

      • Maj Allen E. Wilson

        Of course they care for their children. Just not yours Mr Engleman. Just not yours.

        • JohnEngelman

          How much to you care about their children, Maj Allen E. Wilson?

          • Morris LeChat

            how much should we care about their children, and who decides that?

      • Cid Campeador

        I agree with that. As a teacher for almost 5 decades, I can testify to the veracity of your last statement.

      • DudeWheresMyCountry?

        And of course it is common practice to toss a baby girl in the drink, but that is just a cultural thing for The Chinese I’m sure.

        I assure you they have higher rates of baby river tossing as well.

      • Defoe

        And abort so, so many of the female babies! That shows so much caring!

    • Nathanwartooth

      You could make the case that Africans care a lot less about their children but I don’t think you could make the case that the Japanese care less about their children.

      China has a forced one child policy and I don’t really know much about other Asian groups to be honest.

      • Derelictus

        It’s a huge mistake to assume that all cultures/races have equal notions of unconditional love/caring for their progeny…Muslim honor killings come to mind right off the bat.

  • PBL

    Theodore Dalrymple is always a useful source. Too bad he is no longer at NRO, like another Englishman we all know.

  • ImTellinYa

    Yeah. Third-world savages and affirmative-action parasites are sucking the lifeblood of White civilization. And I hear intelligent White people lie every day and say, “diversity is our strength.” If you laugh at the wrong ones you can lose your job.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

      Diversity will set you free.

      • http://azzmador.com/ Azzmador

        True! Free of your money, possessions, life, livelihood…

    • JohnEngelman

      The different races have evolved in response to different population pressures. These have differed significantly since agriculture began slightly over 10,000 years ago.

      The life of a paleolithic hunter is exciting, varied, and violent, like the life of a ghetto thug. Agriculture requires the ability to prepare for the future, to defer gratification, and to get along with people one may not like. Civilization places a premium on superior intelligence while gradually excluding those with criminal inclinations from the gene pool.

      Whites began civilization 10,000 years ago, and civilization 5,000 years ago. Orientals began these slightly later. The Bantu began agriculture less than 4,000 years ago. They only began living in cities to any extent during the last century. Urban areas where blacks live are seldom known for civilized behavior.

      • Richard Williams

        “Whites began civilization 10,000 years ago, and civilization 5,000 years ago. Orientals began these slightly later.”

        Well, John, which is it? 10K years ago or 5K years ago? I suspect neither time period is correct. Traveling across major waterways and constructing major monuments vastly precede either time period.

        It’s a shame to throw this confusion into this discourse.

        • JohnEngelman

          Thank you. I corrected that sentence. Agriculture began before civilization.

          • Curious

            Are you talking about fertile crescent and Nile civilizations?

          • JohnEngelman

            Agriculture began in the fertile crescent. As agricultural populations increased they crossed the Sinai Peninsula, and began to farm the Nile Delta. While this was happening the Sahara Desert was increasing in size.

            The Sahara Desert was a barrier between north Africa and the rest of of Africa. The Caucasian races evolved in Asia and Europe after modern humans crossed the Sinai in a eastward direction about 60,000 years ago.

            Caucasians migrated back perhaps 7,000 years ago. Civilization began independently in Egypt, and in what is now Iraq. It was begun in each case by whites.

            After agriculture began in the Fertile Crescent it began independently in what is now China and the New World. Several thousand years after agriculture began various civilizations began.

          • pcmustgo

            I’m not sure they were “white”. More like Semites or mixed race looking middle eastern people.

          • JohnEngelman

            Semites are Caucasians.

          • pcmustgo

            With kinky, black hair… I’ve been to many ancient sites, even Ancient Greece… by god the people painted on the mosaics looked like Puerto Ricans. I have trouble believing the ancient Egyptians were “white”. Ok, ok, I heard they dna tested them and they are caucasian…some of the pharoahs. But all the paintings show brown Puerto Ricans with Afros and braids… the kind of braids black people where (heads full of tiny little ones).

            Where are the paintings of “white” pharoahs or Egyptian people?

            Where are they?

            I am not saying the ancient Egyptians were Black, but it’s not hard to imagine why Blacks or anyone would look at them and think… afros, braids, brown skin… black… or certainly mulatto.

            Also, I’ve heard of the blond mummies, but were ALL the mummies blond? I’ve heard hair turns blond or red through aging thousands of years… true?

            EITHER WAY, EUROPEANS HAVE A RIGHT TO SELF-PRESERVATION. It doesn’t matter where civilization started. What matters is we have a right to exist.

          • pcmustgo

            Btw, I understand the people on those particular mosaics *might have been slaves… but I didn’t see any other people in the mosaics, so I wouldn’t know… nothing to compare them to.

            And by god, some greeks have the kinkiest afros on earth…

          • Dutchman

            Do a google image search for ” Old Kingdom Egypt Sculpture” and you will see that the earliest Egyptians were NOT Sub-Saharan Africans.

          • David Ashton

            I have read that Raymond Dart said the earliest skulls in Egypt were Nordic, but have been unable to track this down for verification.

          • http://azzmador.com/ Azzmador

            IMO, whites are “Caucasian,” but not all Caucasians are white. Period. If an East Indian immigrant who is blacker than an eight ball is Caucasian, (as well as all manner of Arabs, Semites, whatever) and thus can register as white on all his gov’t papers then something is wrong with the classification system. I am an Anglo/Celt, and my race has zero in common with those mentioned above. Pictured below, a “White” civilization founder, as described in the little history lesson above.

          • joesolargenius

            I have seen white homeless people look like that after a few years living in the Arizona sun , and when I use to nude sunbathe I could pass for an Hispanic.

          • ProWhite son of Jacob

            That, my friend, is an Arab. The demographics of the Middle East underwent radical change after the Arabic/Islamic conquest of the region/Byzantium/Persia. Babylonians, Persians, and many Levant people would have been White, even the Semitic ones (due to the fact there weren’t any differences between them in art). Some like the Akkadians were considered “Semitic”–but the Akkadians were also “White” (although not Nordic). The Sumerians, as non-Semitic, were depicted as identical to the Akkadians. Both were responsible for the Sumerian empire, Sargon of Akkad being its first “emperor.”

            Also, Egyptians were never black or African in any capacity whatsoever (even if they did have some Asiatic features). Even their pantheon was distinctly Caucasian. People are thinking of Nubians… Which were not Egyptians. Egyptians have changed somewhat since the Arabic conquest… For example, Coptics are still often lighter than Muslims in Egypt. They sometimes consider themselves a different ethnicity, closer related to the original Egyptians.

          • Morris LeChat

            I have met Coptic Egyptians that looked as if they were pure blooded Irish. Then I have also met some that looked almost as if they were from India.

          • MariaOConnor

            People confuse race, ethnicity, nationality and ancestry.
            There are very few homogeneous countries, so in each country there are people of different races and ethnicities. For example: The new Pope is white (race), ethnicity (latino), nationality (argentinean), nationality of origen or ancestry (italian).

          • MariaOConnor

            Caucasians are divided in sub races. That man may be much lighter, but
            sun exposure and poor hygiene can make your skin look different. However, his ethnicity (culture) is very different from an European. Celts/Etruscan/Basques are the oldest Europeans.

          • JohnEngelman

            Some posters here seem to think that only Nordics are authentic whites. When whites in Egypt, Israel, Assyria, Babylon, Greece, and Italy were building sophisticated civilizations Nordics were at the level of the Bantu before European colonialism. They had iron technology, but no cities, system of writing, or mathematics. The political unit was the tribe. The economy combined primitive agriculture with hunting.

          • Morris LeChat

            you are showing a tremendous amount of ignorance concerning Egyptian art. The truth is there are wall paintings that show blond haired blue eyed Egyptians. The truth is that wigs , found in tombs, can range in color from dark blonde to black, with reddish brown predominating. The truth is that mummies of several pharos have blonde hair. The truth is that genetic analysis of ancient egyptians shows them to be very close to kelts in Europe and not at all close to the modern day inhabitants of Egypt. That “kinky” hair is just braiding, and it was done because everyone shaved their heads and wore wigs. They shaved to protect themselves from lice. The wigs were braided because that was an easy way to keep them together and neat.
            If you look at the paintings agin, you will notice the women are always painted as having white skin. The men are always painted as being reddish. the women did not work in the sun. You can keep a puertorican and a black person inside all their life, but they will never be white like the women in Egyptian art are.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            That might just be your perception of those artifacts. When I look at ancient Greek or Egyptian images / paintings / art I don’t see Puerto Rican. There weren’t even Puerto Ricans yet but I know your just using that as an example.

            Looking at Egyptian artifacts I see White features in the powerful people, skin color I imagine they must have had good tans! I suspect the Egyptian ruling class of the classical Egyptain era, before Alexander conquered North Africa were Caucasian with a non-White serf class.

            Greeks of antiquity were without question Caucasian.

          • darnell

            A semite is simply someone whose mother tongue is a semitic language, like Arabic, Aramaic or Hebrew. There are speakers of Arabic who are fully negroid and there are some who could pass for Norwegian. ‘Hispanic’ is misused the same way (by the U.S. government no less).

          • Jim G

            No they are not.

          • JohnEngelman

            Conceived as one of the great races, alongside Mongoloid and Negroid, it was taken to consist of a number of “subraces”. The Caucasoid peoples were usually divided in three groups on linguistic grounds, termed Aryan (Indo-European), Semitic (Semitic languages) and Hamitic (Berber-Cushitic-Egyptian).
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

          • David Ashton

            The Caucasian subraces are Nordic, Alpine, Mediterranean, Armenoid, etc. The authorities to consult include J. R. Baker, C. S. Coon, H. F. K. Guenther.
            There is some connection between language and genetics, but they are obviously different things.
            The originators of the ancient Egyptian civilization were primarily Mediterranean, never Negroid. There is a picture (better known, I supposed) of four racial divisions known to the Egyptians in the royal tombs at Biban-el-Molouk (see A. C. Haddon, “History of Anthropology” [1945] p.4).

          • JohnEngelman

            I agree with you that the Egyptian civilization was a Caucasian civilization. This is obvious both from paintings Egyptians made of themselves, and from DNA testing of Egyptian mummies. There was one Nubian dynasty, but it only lasted about a century.

          • MikeofAges

            The linguistic tree of the human race closely follows the phyletic tree. Likely to the extent that people who fall into a linguistic group who are not the same as the primary type in that group are people who became assimilated into it later.

            Just a little point here. Evolution, and evolution really is the observed result the processes which produce transformation and speciation, not a process in and of itself, is not so simple as it seems. “Evolution”, if you want to call it that and I concur that it is a convenient term, can only work with what is. And can only do so much with what it has to work with in any given segment of time. Stephen Jay Gould copiously made this point in his works on the topic. His politics are his politics. I doubt many people here agree with them, but his natural science was much to the point. All is contingent, and “there is no stepping in the same river twice.” Don’t you think it is at least a little bit ironic that the same people who are driving around with “Extinction Is Forever” bumper sticker on the back of their cares are ever so busy engineering their own phyletic extinction?

          • eiszeit

            But they are not White Europeans, and that’s what matters. Semites are spiritually no different from Blacks or Latinos.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Your timelines and places are antiquated. Read about Gobekli Tepe in Turkey. Civilization started long before Mesopotamia and Egypt and Caucasians started civilization many thousands of years before China.

        • tarczan

          Ghetto thug? Pretty weak.

      • Lygeia

        You should read some of the books by Michael Cremo. We may older than we have been told. Perhaps 500,000 years old as anatomically modern humans. Everything we may have been told about race being an adaptation to climate or eating a certain plant or animal may be wrong.

        • David Ashton

          There will always be controversy about the origin of races, and hominid origins in general. What we do know is how they exist and differ today, and what the Europeans have achieved over the past 3000 years.

        • MikeofAges

          Or closer to the mainstream, Bjorn Kurten.”Not From Apes”. Kurten’s thesis is that there is a “stem” animal which continually evolves, while offshoot line degenerate into apes. Many implication to this idea, including the issue of where the “stem” line is today, or who it is.

        • Defoe

          You are onto something; the erosion around the Sphinx enclosure has been shown to be water erosion and not wind erosion as has been thought for so long. The Sahara area has been shown to have had a temperate climate some 20,000 years ago. This climate change is thought to be caused by the wobble of the earth on its axis. It completes on cycle about every 25,000 years. When the northern hemisphere is pointed toward the sun, we have the deserts move North, when the northern bemisphere is pointed away from the sun, the temperate belts move south. The thinking is that the Sphinx pre-dates the pyramids by thousands of years and was built by an advanced civilization of which we know little.

          This is part of the reason that I have little use for commonly held “timelines” about the movements of peoples and the development of agriculture, etc. Modern “Egyptology” is just as moribund as many other fields of study and extremely reluctant to accept new discoveries since so many egos are on the line.

      • Morris LeChat

        John, give it a rest

      • Diversity is BAD

        As usual, the same irrelevant post from our resident asiaphile to associate Whites and Orientals to shift the focus of this article that ALL non-Whites are bad for America:

        “We put Chinese in charge of military secrets and pretend that nobody could have predicted they would spy for their homeland” .
        http://www.amren.com/news/2007/07/law_enforcement/

        Nice try engelman, but the gig is up.

        • JohnEngelman

          There is no indication in that article of the percentage of Chinese Americans and Chinese visitors in the United States who are spying for China. I am confident that it is fairly small.

          This is what Jared Taylor has to say about Chinese crime rates.

          Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
          http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html

          During the 1960s, Chinatown was the part of San Francisco with the most unemployment and poverty, the highest rate of tuberculosis, the least education, and the most substandard housing. Nevertheless, in 1965, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the whole state of California.
          http://lesenfantsdelazonegrise.hautetfort.com/media/00/02/1497255978.pdf

          • David Ashton

            See e.g. Phyllis Schlafly, “Spying and stealing by Communist China”, at http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2012/mar12/12-03-28.html

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Yet they had the highest unemployment, poverty and tuberculosis, least education and the worst housing… yeah you win (sarcasm) every time you whip up that tired statistic.

            Did you know 17 of the world’s 20 most polluted cities are in China, and that that statistic is expected to grow?

            Are you aware that Han Chinese already have a country that isn’t multicultural with close to 1.5 BILLION people?

            Wake up Hangleman, we don’t need Chinese people spreading their wings in America,

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Hangleman, you are a mental and physical coward. You can’t back up your twisted opinions so you just do a quiet thumbs down on posts you have no answer for. Weak man you are.

    • Elton John

      Hey Moron ! All great civilizations – Egyptians, Sumerians, Mesopotamians, Phoenicians, Indians and Chinese were non-white third world citizens. Stop bloviating about white savages. Whites haven’t really been civilized until after the second world war.

      • David Ashton

        All the civilizations mentioned engaged in cruel warfare.
        European civilization from Greece, through Rome, Christianity and the Enlightenment preceded WW2. In science, philosophy and music it has been the most impressive of all.

      • Funruffian

        What a completely asinine statement, ignoramus. All those ancient people you mention, except the Chinese, were Caucasian. Color has little to do with ethnicity or Race. East Indians are of the Caucasoid haplotype, yet are sometimes darker than most Native Africans.

      • saxonsun

        All of them were white.

      • jambi19

        Let me guess, if it wasn’t for “colonialism” and “white privilege” the ancestors of all third world cesspools would have space programs and pharmaceutical industries correct? Imagine all societies aren’t inherently equal….it’s easy if you try. You’d have to change the name of the song from “imagine” to “reality” in that case however.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aunti-Occupy/100003232140389 Aunti Occupy

      ONE OF AMERICA’S MOST PROMINENT ENGINEER FIRMS WITHE THE INITIALS LUCENT SOLD DIVERSITY TO ITS SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS

      They said Diversity was their most important product yet they moved operations to areas of the World where there wasn’t any Diversity. They would only hire and promote incompetent non-whites and even broke Federal emigration laws hiring minorities in foreign nations then advertising for the jobs in small towns out West. The stuff didn’t work, they missed delivery dates and earned a bad reputation.

      America is gone with the wind and will never return. America was an idea and the idea has been destroyed. The only salvation is Secession but there are not enough whites left to accomplish it. Once whites loose their guns what they own will then be taken from them by force. There will not be anyway for them to stop it.

  • JohnEngelman

    I like many things liberals like. I like cities. I like downtown areas of cities. I like public libraries, public transportation, public recreational facilities, public this and public that. The reason most whites do not like these things is because they associate them with blacks, and more specifically with black crime.

    Without large black populations the downtown areas of our once proud cities would be known for atmospheric restaurants and taverns, book stores, used book stores, theaters, art galleries, and so on. They would be known for things liberals like. Instead they are known for the sound of gun fire and police sirens.

    • Bobby

      And leftists, Mr. Engleman, because of their “programs”, do everything in their power to destroy all of those places that we all like. That is true.

      • Mahound

        Thing is though that leftists like to revolt against society. If we had all those nice public facilities then their would be no need for joining a protest in favour of them. And if there was no crime, violence, poverty and misery, there would be no case for claiming that capitalism is evil.

        • Derelictus

          Yes but leftists claim that ALL crime, violence, poverty and misery is the result OF capitalism, so even if there were no violent nonwhites in America and crime was significantly reduced from its present levels, what little crime was left would be “proof” of the evils of capitalism/imperialism/classism etc.

          • David Ashton

            And “poverty” is a relative matter. Some people will always be better off than others.

          • MBlanc46

            I’m not sure which leftists you are referring to. Marx certainly would have said no such thing.

      • JohnEngelman

        On racial matters leftists are torn between what they want to believe and pretend publicly to believe, and what they privately know to be true and try not to think about. What they want to believe influences the political policies they advocate. What they know to be true keeps them from walking along Martin Luther King Blvd. at 10:00 p.m.

        Because it is no longer possible for a well informed person to believe that the races are intrinsically equal, “Stop. I don’t want to hear about it,” has become the leftist response to one who tries to list evidence that they are not equal.

        • Nathanwartooth

          The road to hell is paved with good intentions…

        • ProWhite son of Jacob

          Quite interesting and true. I have a liberal acquaintance. His family and he are constantly concerned with the proximity of blacks to their neighborhood. They know blacks bring crime… They know blacks lower property values and that this is just not where you want to live. They consciously prefer to live among whites. Unsurprising, considering how many participants in White flight are actually liberals. Yet for some reason, their rhetoric doesn’t reflect what they “know.”

          Sometimes Sociology gets a bad name (even though Sociology is what is behind “The Bell Curve”–although it is a discipline largely taken over by people who lie to themselves), but sociologically speaking, you cannot take a primitive people and expect them to become civilized in a few hundred years. Especially when those in question often actively resist assimilating to proper civilization. It is counter to thousands of years of their culture and biological adaptation to an environment that didn’t have civilization or social structure. And intelligence was never an important adaptation in Africa. It wasn’t sexually or environmentally selected for.
          Liberals (non-Marxist ones) should be race realists, honestly. Because these are all arguments supported by rationality and logic.

          • JohnEngelman

            anonymous,

            I agree with most of what you wrote. A paleolithic way of life did reward superior intelligence. That is why the Bushmen of southern Africa and Australian Aborigines are more intelligent than Chimpanzees. Nevertheless, civilization places even more of a premium on superior intelligence.

            In an urban civilization men of superior intelligence tend to be more prosperous, and consequently more prolific, than man of average and below average intelligence. The twentieth century tendency toward dysgenics was a temporary phenomenon that is coming to an end as the welfare system is scaled back, and as computer technology increases the relationship between income and IQ.

          • MikeofAges

            “In an urban civilization men of superior intelligence tend to be more prosperous, and consequently more prolific”

            More prolific in urban civilization? Are you and the rest of us living on the same planet? In there an alternate Earth somewhere with a portal to our internet? Or what?

            Even in in traditional white countries like England and France, back when there was no safety net and you could literally starve to death, the lower strata out bred the upper. Traditionally, urban society never replenished itself, but always had to be replenished by immigrants from the countryside or provinces. Only in the contemporary era of mass third world immigration has the trend been different. And even then, eventually the situation will revert to form.

          • JohnEngelman

            Keep in mind I am talking about urban civilization, and not specifically urban living. Also, urban diseases were more likely to inflict the poor than the rich. The rich were nearly always immune from famine, and that continually thinned the ranks of the poor.

            Intelligent men, then as well as now, tended to be prosperous. They were able to provide well for their children. These children were more likely to survive and reproduce.

            The process is explained in “A Farewell to Alms,” by Gregory Clark.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Clark_(economist)

            The seventeenth century equivalent of the unmarried, crack addicted welfare mother usually died of starvation, malnutrition, or disease before she could spread her bad genes.

          • MikeofAges

            You’re right about that much. The prosperous did not die out, but I don’t think they have ever been prolific either. Still, you’ve got another change of subject going on here. My point was, primarily, that historically urban populations were known not to have replenished themselves, but rather had to be replenished by migrations from the provinces and hinterlands. Not so today, obviously, when you have migrants producing children at prolific rates. Exactly when it started to be the case that lower strata migrants could expand their populations I am not sure, but I imagine it coincided with the advent of the industrial revolution. That is when metropolitan centers started to turn into megas-cities.

          • JohnEngelman

            Gregory Clark’s point is that centuries and thousands of years of civilization breed for higher intelligence and lower crime rates. That is evident when we compare what used to be called “the two civilized races” with third world peoples.

          • David Ashton

            See Richard Lynn’s website for documentation on western intellectual decline.

          • Defoe

            “Gregory Clark’s point is that centuries and thousands of years of civilization breed for higher intelligence and lower crime rates. ”

            How does Clark garner crime statistics and “intelligence” data from thousands of years ago. What a vacuous statement.

          • Lygeia

            To say that living in Africa means you don’t have to be intelligent may not be true. There are ruins of a white civilization in Zimbabwe that may be 100,000 years old.

          • Derelictus

            How do you know it was a white civilization? Current fashionable opinion is that Blacks built it…and then somehow lost that knowledge thousands of years down the road…

          • Non Humans

            Because it wasn’t constructed of mud, feces, sticks, stones, and bones (or acquired through section 8 vouchers) the most common building materials of nonhumans. I highly doubt there was an MLK Blvd discovered within it as well.

          • Defoe

            The problem with “fashionable opinion” is that it isn’t fashionable after awhile.

          • ProWhite son of Jacob

            The problem is that those ruins aren’t 100,000 years old. The other problem is that if they were White, we are not their descendants–and they would have to have been a group of Whites that went extinct.

            Also, you can be intelligent to live in Africa, sure… But not as intelligent as someone in another area. Caucasians who migrated from near the Black Sea and populated Europe and the Middle East, had to deal with colder climates (and an Ice Age). In colder climates, if you are not smart and resourceful you will die and your genes will not continue. The smart and resourceful ones will live.

            When civilization began with Sumeria and Akkadia, it then increased the need for intelligence at a more exponential rate. So even when cold wasn’t a factor, intelligence was still important.

            In Africa, if you are less intelligent you can still manage to survive. They didn’t need to be intelligent. And they are basically inherently primitive. Genetically. Same with aborigines, who have the lowest tested IQs on the planet.

            And with how things are today, the less intelligent often have the most children…

          • Derelictus

            Liberals’ fanatical beliefs in “equality” and totalitarian concepts of “fairness” supercede whatever rational thoughts they may otherwise hold, it seems…

          • Defoe

            I suspect “rationality and logic” have little to do with the “liberal agenda”. Their agenda seems to focused on power.

        • Derelictus

          Eloquently spoken! But then what to do with “leftism”? You seem to agree that at least some aspects of it are a mental illness (suicidal altruism).

          • JohnEngelman

            One could argue that conservatives who are not rich practice suicidal altruism toward those who are rich.

            I do not think that liberalism is a mental illness or moral deficiency any more than I think conservatism is. I think there are decent adherents to either persuasion.

            There are conservative aspects to my own thinking. I am pessimistic about human nature and human potential. I think there is often wisdom in tradition. I distrust abrupt economic and social changes and untested economic and social experiments.

            Nevertheless, to the extent that I am conservative mine is a conservatism without affection for rich people and capitalism. I accept capitalism. I do not like it. I no longer believe in socialism. I do not dislike it.

          • David Ashton

            What you personally like(d) and dislike(d) are not as important to the rest of us as what most people, and the ruling elites, think and do.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            If you have such a disdain for capitalism why not move to a non-capitalistic country? Your all talk. If you don’t like capitalism then that means you are a big gov Orwellian socialist.

            You don’t like America or The West. You think Whites should be bred out of existence and free markets should be controlled by governments.

            Seriously, why are you here?

          • JohnEngelman

            The closest approximation to democratic socialism can be found in the Social Democratic economies of Scandinavia, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Those countries have responded better to the Great Recession than the United States.

            One of the reasons I am here is that I like to point that out. Another reason is that I enjoy expressing my admiration for Jews and Orientals quoting sources I have found here.

            If by “bred out of existence,” you mean annihilated, that will not happen to the white race. What will happen, and what is happening even as I write, is that opposition to interracial marriage has dwindled to an very small minority and the practice is increasing. I like pointing that out too.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            One of your main reasons for posting on this site is your joy in expressing your admiration for Jews and Orientals? This is not the place for that. You are a troll.

            I’ll personally cut you a check for $500 if you will kindly move to China, Cambodia or Israel. I mean it, I will paypal you.

            Do you think you would be treated well and fairly in those places? Would you get the same benefits they get when coming here? You really need to spend some time in a non-White country, it would be a revelation for you.

          • Defoe

            ” Those countries have responded better to the Great Recession than the United States.”

            Once again you are comparing countries to the US which have demographics quite different than those of the US; therefore, your comparison is without merit.

          • JohnEngelman

            Things would not be better for most whites in the U.S. with a lower top tax rate and weaker labor unions. That is what the Republican Party wants. The leaders of the GOP also want more immigrants.

          • Defoe

            “There are conservative aspects to my own thinking. I am pessimistic about human nature and human potential”

            Conservatives are NOT pessimistic about human nature; they are realistic about human nature. They don’t have these do-gooder blinders on about people like so many mis-guided liberals do. Most conservatives I know are optimists about human potential. We see ourselves populating the stars some day!

            Where do you come up with these ridiculous ideas?

        • David Ashton

          What should/can we do about it?

          • JohnEngelman

            End Aid to Families with Dependent Children, affirmative action, and forced school busing.

            Scrape the criminals off of the street. Execute many of them. Make the rest work at hard labor enforced by the whip until they are too old to commit crimes. That is the only way to get any value out of them.

            There is no point in trying to rehabilitate them. There is nothing of value to rehabilitate.

          • MBlanc46

            “There is no point in trying to rehabilitate them. There is nothing of value to rehabilitate.” I think that’s a bit strong. Until about sixty years ago, blacks were economically productive. Granted, the work that many of them did–cotton culture–is now mechanized. We can’t just go back to where we were in 1950 Work that people with an 87 IQ can do would have to be created. It wouldn’t be optimally efficient economically, but by providing blacks with useful employment it would be socially useful. If whites would finally come to the conclusion that blacks can’t integrate into modern, technological society and need physical labor to employ them, whips probably wouldn’t be required. Decent drivers (slave owners used blacks) and vagrancy laws would probably be sufficient.

          • David Ashton

            Heil, Engelman!

          • David Ashton

            Dachau quite mild in comparison.

        • fakeemail

          No Mr. Engelman, Liberals are not well meaning at all. They are some of the most close-minded and nasty people on a personal level. And all their well-meaning do-gooder ideas are NOT meant to do good. They are meant to display their self-righteousness and moral superiority as well as inflict pain on the “bad” whites. All the while they stay comfortably away from the havoc they create. So they can continue to blame the “bad” whites for the problems.

          • Some Guy

            I agree. I lived around liberals for years and found them to be the most arrogant, self-righteous, intolerant and ignorant meddlers I’ve ever met in my life. They will turn on you in an instant at the slightest indication of politically incorrect thinking, even if you’ve been friends with them for years. You have to watch everything you say around them or you’ll get the “indignant lecture.” They get really angry about things they know nothing about and I finally decided that it wasn’t worth my time to argue with them or talk to them and now I avoid all contact with them as much as possible. If I do run into one of them by accident and they say something idiotic–which they always do–I just nod and agree and head for the nearest exit. .

          • gemjunior

            It is very very true that libs are arrogant and self-righteous. They are always trying to look down on others to make themselves feel better. They really like to pull the superiority stuff. I grew up with a girl who is a liberal, she comes from a nice family but the parents divorced and her grandmother always lived with them. They are Jewish but absolutely non-practicing atheists. She has always looked down on religious people as superstitious idiots. She can’t help what she was taught. However, she was also taught to look down on a lot of people for wrong reasons. She never stops with the snide comments that it’s such a stereotype that I married a NYC cop when I was working as a nurse, but it was kind of annoying actually. “Oh my gawd, a cop and a nurse. You’re so original.” But my marriage is still going strong while she never married but lived with a string of guys who mooched off her. Yet, I’M the pathetic one? She always started fights with me about being a racist and being unfair to the poor for not supporting welfare. Obviously as adults we do not often see one another, actually never. We drift apart from those we don’t agree with. Nothing in common anymore.

        • Luca

          Liberals are talkers and not doers. I worked with them for 30 years and their love of unsuccessful theories knows no bounds. Since all they can do is talk, they are very good at it, especially when their audience is loaded with dummies.

          They ultimately want the money and power that they can’t get in any other way. They remind me of a Miss America candidate who gets up on stage and says she wants to cure world hunger. It sounds so good, but where is the plan to actually execute this dream? Well, just ask a liberal and he’ll tell you “Tax and spend and tax some more.

          Liberals promote great sounding ideas like solar power, racial equality human rights, war on poverty, affirmative action, etc. The only problem is they leave common sense at the door, they solve nothing, make matters worse and want me to pay for that and the next great scheme waiting in the wings. And at the end of the day they really don’t care what they didn’t solve or how much they spent, they just wanted votes so they could stay in power and they have enough idiots to help them with that.

          • JohnEngelman

            Liberals are talkers and not doers. I worked with them for 30 years and their love of unsuccessful theories knows no bounds.

            - Luca

            What about the conservative theory that cutting taxes while raising defense spending will balance the budget?

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            Don’t get Neo-cons confused with conservatives

          • Luca

            The two need not go hand-in-hand, however, cutting taxes is a very good thing and providing for a common defense is essential. What typically happens is Government is too big and bureaucratic, and engages in out of control spending through waste, fraud and abuse. Therefore, if military spending is kept in check and taxes are kept at a responsible minimum a balance is struck which benefits all.

            What we have now is 53% of Americans carrying the other 47% who are generally parasites but useful idiot voters being bribed with our tax money. Do the poor really need cellphones and cash cards? I”m not talking about SS recipients and the truly needy but the I am talking about the subsidized Obama voters.

            I’d rather have my tax money spent on border security than on Jose’s 4 kids getting food stamps so they can buy Cheetos and soda.

          • Morris LeChat

            well, cutting taxes doubled tax REVENUES in the Reagan years. Are you saying that a doubling of revenues somehow leads to an unbalanced budget? Did the defense spending consume most of that increase? Look into it john. The answer is no, the defense increase consumed very little of that surplus revenue. The social spending by the libs consumed all of it and more. Once again, You are intellectually dishonest. You do not tell the whole story, you hold back facts to give an erroneous impression, to enable you to put forth a falsehood. You know, I don’t believe you are not jewish, because this is the exact type of unethical behavior that jews are known for..

          • JohnEngelman

            Anyone with an accurate memory of the Reagan years knows that it was not a time for bold new initiatives in social spending. It was a time for substantial increases in military spending.

            During the Carter administration the top tax rate remained at 70 percent. Under Reagan it declined to 28 percent.

            http://www.ctj.org/pdf/regcg.pdf

            During Reagan’s first year in office income tax receipts were $285,917 million. During his last year this had grown to $401,181 million. This amounts to a growth of $14,408 per year, although not quite double, as you claim.

            This would seem to indicate that cutting taxes generates more tax revenue.

            However, during Carter’s first year in office income tax receipts were $157,626 million. During his last year this had grown to $244,069 million. This amounts to a growth of $21,610.75 million per year.

            http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=203

            If you do these kind of calculations, you will see that since 1934 income tax receipts have usually increased from one year to the next because of economic growth and inflation. With few exceptions they have increased more when the top tax rate was raised than when it remained constant. They have increased more when the top tax rate remained constant than when it was decreased.

            If it was necessary to raise defense spending during the Reagan years it was fiscally responsible to raise taxes to pay for the increases. Because the Soviet Union was collapsing it was not necessary. Instead, provoking an arms race with the USSR when Soviet leaders felt their power slipping away was dangerous.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Affirmative Action is a great sounding idea? As good as solar power? I know you don’t really think that.

          • Luca

            They sound good to the gullible.

        • MBlanc46

          That’s a pretty good characterization. I do think that you have to distinguish the identity politics-multiculturalist-feminist crowd from the sort of liberal that you’re describing. Sixty years ago they would have been Stalinists.They are not civilized and tolerant. However, they probably also stay away from MLK Drive.

        • Defoe

          ” Liberals are well meaning. Unfortunately they are too civilized to understand the mentalities of those who are less evolved than they are. ”

          Too civilized? How about too dense? How about too deluded? How about too self righteous? How about too ignorant? How about too closed-minded? Too civilized? I would say most liberals are the opposite of civilized; civilized implies educated, clear thinking, law abiding, courteous, etc. Liberals tend to have little of these traits. They tend to be dictatorial and want to impose their thinking on the people because of their arrogance.

          The current mayor of New York City is the prime example of a modern “liberal”; they are the opposite of the real meaning of liberal.

          Consider what “liberals” did to South Africa.

          • David Ashton

            The SA Communist Party worked in effective harness with “liberals”.

      • Morris LeChat

        joh has tunnelvision. He does not understand the world but thinks he does because he has read books about it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

      John, I think your problem is with guilt. You know the old saying that “once you’ve gone black, you can never go back,” romantically speaking? Well, admittedly, John, you went outside of your race to find romantic partners– and that’s fine of course, I just don’t think it is the wisest course of action.

      Remember that gentleman, and his name escapes me, he was a politician and he was speaking at Bob Jones University? He took a glass of chocolate milk and poured it into a glass of white milk, and said that you could never get the white glass of milk back. He of course had to apologize and grovel, but so true, so true.

      I mentioned earlier that Mr. Taylor has said :

      “In a speech delivered on May 28, 2005, to the British self-determination group, Sovereignty, Taylor said of his personal feelings to interracial marriages, “I want my grandchildren to look like my grandparents. I don’t want them to look like Anwar Sadat or Fu Manchu or Whoopi Goldberg.”

      Fu Manchu. Yes, Fu Manchu is in there. John, I happen to be a young White guy who is unmarried and looking and I know what it is to be a heterosexual guy. We all get the same urges. I can honestly say that I’ve never met or seen a black girl that I would want to date. I don’t drool over the black girls in the media, and none of their names come to mind, who are supposed to be so beautiful. The same is true of Mexicans or what have you.

      But you know what John? I have honestly met some very beautiful Japanese girls in my time. Super-intelligent, fit, perfect English-speakers, pretty and on and on. I have plenty of Japanese friends. Great bunch of folks. But John. John. I fight it. I always remind myself in the back of my head what the end result of that would mean. To take that big step– the step that you have taken several times across the line, just not the wisest thing to do. My ancestors bred among their own kind for generation after generation to form me. I owe it to them to pass on what they gave me.

      You talk from time to time about your high-iq jewish friends. I hate to pull the iq card, but speaking for myself, my own iq is several standard deviations above your 115 quote you use time and time again. They don’t impress me. And I certainly don’t want to throw that away. I don’t want my grandchildren to look like Fu Manchu.
      But you know this. You, out of guilt, try your best to pull over people to your side in order to convince yourself that what you’ve done is best. It is not. I understand why you do it, but I can’t agree. Please don’t try to corrupt others, just to make yourself feel better.

      • JohnEngelman

        Jared Taylor and I agree on basic reality perceptions. We know that the races are different in terms of average ability levels and behavior, and we know that the differences are caused genetically.

        Some of our likes and dislikes are different. He wants his decedents to be Caucasians. For me that is not a concern.

        I was probably six or seven when I first learned that Orientals girls existed. I remember thinking, “With white girls some are pretty, and some are not. With Oriental girls all are pretty.”

        I have regrets, but nothing to feel guilty about.

        • David Ashton

          You have told us this more than once. Are all east Asian girls really pretty? Was it their similarity to one another that influenced you?

        • fakeemail

          I appreciate Asian women as well, but they aint perfect by any stretch. And no woman is more beautiful than a beautiful white woman.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

          I’ve seen, with my own eyes, entire American cities go from White and breathtaking to grey and dismal. Cities turned to ash. I have observed it all comes down to genes. The race, indeed, is the place. I have seen my people go from top of the heap to the object of ridicule. anger doesn’t begin to touch what I feel. When you have to watch something beautiful die, anger does not begin to describe.

          • David Ashton

            As an Englishman I can sympathize with this sentiment.
            Just one personal example, if someone had told me as a child sitting at the back of an aunt’s shop in an outer London borough that one day this very place would be a base for an Asian airplane bomb plot, that the beautiful library up the road would be attacked by immigrant arsonists, that our famous local grammar school (founded 1527) would eventually be turned into a “multicultural” dump, and that my home area a few miles north would be plagued by half-a-dozen black youth gangs, I would have thought the messenger mad, but it all happened.

        • MBlanc46

          As a former colleague of mine one put it, considerably more crudely, “No dogs among Asian women”.

        • Caucasoid88

          I just see all the amazing things white people have brought to this world and I don’t want my children to be anything but white. You can’t quite say the same about Asians. I’m sure your intentions for miscegenation were good, but you could’ve done better. Good luck.

        • Proud White father

          “With Oriental girls all are pretty.”

          And then he, and a few others, wonder why we he receives so many negative replies and thumbs down to such nonsense. Not only you illogically keep coming to a website dedicated to White interests to obsessively praise Asians day in and day out, but you do it by repeating the same juvenile, if not borderline pedophiliac statement ?

          Asians are not our brothers and sisters. They are not White and do not belong in any White countries. Their contribution to diversity is just as evil since they are taking jobs, school seats and federal grants away from native White Americans all while taking over neighborhoods and even entire towns like in Northern California (ie: Daly City, Fremont, Milpitas, Cupertino).

          Whether a non-White is worse or better than some Whites is a moot point. The result is the same displacement of Whites in the country their ancestors built. And that is and never will be acceptable to any White who still cares for the preservation of the White race and White America.

          You don’t and never belonged here, and it’s about time you get the memo after all these years.

          • Vyncennt

            “you do it by repeating the same juvenile, if not borderline pedophiliac statement ?”

            “Juvenile” would better be defined by your judging of someone by their aesthetic taste in women. “Pedophiliac” is another immature insult that you’ve thrown at someone who has different tastes than yourself. I often do not agree with John on his general views of Asians, but if he chooses to marry one, it in no way makes him “juvenile” or “pedophiliac.” The immature name calling on the forum has become a bit over the top lately.

            “Asians are not our brothers and sisters. They are not White and do not belong in any White countries.”

            This is true. They aren’t our brother and sister, and make no secret about it. They also are not “white”, at least in the Western/Northern European sense of the word. As to whether they belong in this country? If they migrate here legally, and assimilate thoroughly, I have no problem with them being here. I would never advocate for them becoming a majority, or even a large minority, but their mere presence in small pockets I find non-offensive.

            “Their contribution to diversity is just as evil since they are taking jobs, school seats and federal grants away from native White Americans all while taking over neighborhoods”

            Just as evil? Really? Are you that obtuse? Unlike the blacks and hispanics, Asians at least create jobs and contribute taxes to those grants and schools. It is not Asians that have taken all of our big cities and destroyed them. Don’t mistake my intent…I have no desire to see Asians taking over anything in our country…but I would never classify them or their actions to be anything close to equivalent to the “browns.”

            ” The result is the same displacement of Whites in the country their ancestors built.And that is and never will be acceptable to any White who still cares for the preservation of the White race and White America.”

            The result is not the same displacement. We are not being displaced by Asians. We are being displaced, numerically, by blacks and hispanics. We are being displaced, legislatively, by liberal white politicians. There are shades of grey is most situations. Ignore them at your peril.

          • David Ashton

            Not only that: he doesn’t care if our descendants are not Caucasian.

          • Defoe

            “Boring” is the operative word. As I said earlier, I think he has 12-15 flash cards with canned statements on them. Mr. Wikipedia who took the 10,000 year leap! Mr. Polemic.

          • David Ashton

            Just so.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Hangleman is not one of us either.

        • Defoe

          It’s tiresome reading your constant references to “Jared Taylor and I agree”. So you’ve read his books; many of us on this site have. That does not make you his personal friend. It also does not give you any special position on this site. It only makes me wonder why you do it.

          I’ll bet you brought the teacher an apple every day.

          • David Ashton

            Only if she happened to be Chinese, I should suppose.

        • DudeWheresMyCountry?

          All oriental girls are pretty? You have bad taste in what is attractive. I’m glad you don’t care if your genes carry on, at least my ancestors won’t have to hear yours taking about wishing to be Chinese. You are a strange character but I take solace in knowing you are the last of your bloodline to be White… hopefully your offspring can find a nice Asain-centric website to support in 2030. They certainly won’t be of our concern.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Hangleman, you are a coward. You don’t respond with words, only a negative on the counter. You are mentally weak. I’m glad you are the last White of your clan. We don’t need more weaklings who would kiss the shoes / sandals of people who care nothing about your future.

      • Derelictus

        You said his decision to mate outside his race was “fine” (for him) but then argue that he shouldn’t try to “corrupt” others. Which one is it? Either what he did is “bad” or it isn’t. I’m supportive of “race realism”, but if most AmRen supporters would, given the opportunity, make interracial relationships illegal, that’s something I can’t get behind, as it’s a violation of free will and individual choice. That’s the libertarian in me speaking. It violates Western concepts of individualism by replacing it with a creepy all-encompassing “racial collectivism” at gunpoint. My 2 cents.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

          It’s fine because it is done and there is nothing you can do about it but to influence others from buying into the idea of a rainbow planet.

          • Non Humans

            I’ve been following this conversation, and I’m not very keen on your remarks at John. I have, usually, found his posts to be insightful and informative. I am getting the impression that perhaps the issue here is that of the perception of thresholds, particularly IQ and subsequent behaviors related to, and to that of personal preferences.
            .
            Most of everyone on this site has, at some level, a deploration of nonhumans due to their criminal tendencies and other societal/civilizational destroying effects. Their genetics lend them a closer relationship with primates than with humans, causing them to be, understandably, undesirable on many levels. To be fair to them, with said tendencies and genetics, they honestly have none or very few suitable roles here amongst us.
            .
            Nearly all other races, lacking such a close genetic relationship to primates, don’t suffer such undesireable features and effects, and therefore the taboo is lessened or nullified. I can understand the desire to want to keep ones bloodlines pure in tribute to one’s ancestors, but I can also understand attraction to other races, excluding nonhumans. When someone finds love, they are usually blind to most things at topic here, well within reason anyways.
            .
            Personally, do I find asians/japanese girls attractive? I do. Would I date/marry one? No, my personal life experiences tell me that the majority of them are usually stab you crazy. (No offense, John ;)

          • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

            Well, we’re certainly on the same page. This is just a special time in history. With the advent of modern cheap transportation, it is possible for a man to be living in the jungles of South America one moment, and in a few hours, he’s eating tacos in Los Angeles and signing up for food stamps. Non-Whites are making a huge push, and we Whites are getting squeezed out, and blended with to oblivion.
            Just a few short years ago, the idea of a White woman willingly breeding with a non-White would have been scandalous. Today, it is considered noble and ground-breaking. Proof that one is not racist.
            Our White genes are not a renewable resource. Once those little beautiful strings are corrupted, once the information is sullied– that’s it. We must protect what we have left.
            It’s all happening very fast. Like I’ve said earlier, my brother, I saw with my own eyes Southern California go from being a garden spot, to being majority mexican in many cities. It is shocking how fast it can take place. The Whites left in the area for whatever reason, when it comes to dating– whom are they to choose? What is around them, of course. And Whites are so enamored with abortion and birth control, which is akin to human pesticide. No one else worries about the overpopulation of the planet, or the whales or whatever nonsense our enemies use against us to keep our numbers down.
            There just aren’t any more frontiers for us to flee to. The barbarians are making their push, the gates are down (gone), and we are unarmed. The least we can do, the very least we can do, is make good breeding choices. This could be the beginning of our last stand.

          • Vyncennt

            “and in a few hours, he’s eating tacos in Los Angeles and signing up for food

            stamps. ”

            LOL…that was worth the response in itself!

            “Just a few short years ago, the idea of a White woman willingly breeding with a non-White would have been scandalous. Today, it is considered noble and ground-breaking. Proof that one is not racist.”

            I still find it scandalous in most cases. Noble and ground-breaking in none.

            “Southern California go from being a garden spot, to being majority mexican in many cities.”

            Thank our white treasonous politicians for that demographic. It is an outrage on many different levels. Of course the Mexicans did not overwhelm CA with breeding (that comes next!)….they did it by immigrating.

            “The Whites left in the area for whatever reason, when it comes to dating– whom are they to choose?”

            Either each other or a new home. Mexicans are not close enough to whites, physically, mentally, or culturally, to even loosely consider mixing with. Even in desperate situations.

            “And Whites are so enamored with abortion and birth control, which is akin to human pesticide.”

            White are encumbered with being financially responsible for their children AND brown children. My wife and I would love to have a 2nd child. As both of us, AND our parents, are single children…along with the fact that we both work full time +….we have been having a difficult time figuring out who will raise this 2nd child (we could easily swing it financially). I feel this is the same problem other whites have also. Having 10 children is easy if people refuse to raise them themselves and have the government (read: my wife & I) subsidize the entire family.

            “The least we can do, the very least we can do, is make good breeding choices. This could be the beginning of our last stand.”

            If that is all we can do for a last stand, I fear we won’t be standing for long. Our own disinterest in our replacement is a much larger threat than the occasional white/Asian couple.

          • David Ashton

            May I reiterate my advice: (1) Breed like kind, (2) Save the heritage, (3) Master the technology and content of the internet.

          • MariaOConnor

            I agree with you, that is important to make good breeding choices. However, a man living in the South American jungles will take more than a few hours to get to the USA. The diet of South Americans (South of Panama) consist of potatoes, rice, pasta, bread and succulent steaks in a Sub Continent known for its beef production. In South America, there are tropical jungles, temperate prairies (pampas) and ice in the southern tip with penguins playing in the sea cost.
            There are South Americans of all colors and races, including descendants of a massive 19th and 20th century immigrants, from all parts of Europe.
            Mexicans and Central Americans, eat tacos and tortillas, but not South Americans.

          • Vyncennt

            Now there’s a post I can get behind. Reasonably stated and well written.

            I don’t know if we would agree that “all” the other races lack the negative qualities we associate with blacks, but I’d go so far as to say “most” of them do not possess those qualities to the same extent.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            We have seen mass long-term race-mixing to a level that virtually the entire gene pool is a mixture of two or more races… Mexico. How did that turn out for White genes? Do you think Spaniards today are proud of the genetic boulabase their ancestors helped create? Do they view Mexicans as their brethren? They don’t. Is Mexico a success? Even with possibly one of the most resource and mineral rich pieces of Earth under their feet?

            Now if Mexico’s real estate was 90%+ White would Mexico be different? Would it be the parasitic, violent, poor disease frap that it is?

            I believe without the Aztec genes Mexico would be one of the most powerful, influential and important nations on Earth.

            Something to think about.

          • Non Humans

            I totally agree. It is definitely very easy to see a very distinct primitiveness in the mexican/ latin population. The US would probably be a much better country if “Texas” would have been claimed to the Yucatan and beyond. We also wouldn’t have this “Illegal” alien takeover being allowed by the libtards going on either.

      • Vyncennt

        I don’t believe Johns choice of a wife, nor that wife herself, is the crux of our modern day issues. Whites and some variations of Orientals can live side by side harmoniously. Some few may even choose to intermarry. If these situations and/or occurrences are a small minority, I see no harm to either whites or Orientals.

        If you really possess an IQ several standard deviations above the standard, you’d likely realize that you do not possess the information necessary to instruct John as to what is or isn’t best for him. That is simply presumptuous.

        I don’t agree with much of what John says and I’ve argued with him in the past about quite a few of those comments. Yet slinging schoolyard labels such as “Fu Manchu” at him is simply childish. Attacking his choice of a wife is simply ignorant. I’ve encountered plenty of whites that speak and act as bad as the worst blacks. Would you encourage I breed with them instead of a highly intelligent well mannered Oriental? Which genes, exactly, should I be propagating? Only a fool ignored the shades of grey.

        • David Ashton

          In Britain we see a lot of young blacks with young white girls, and a lot of older men with east or southeast Asian women. Clubbing is a factor in the first case, and internet searching for domestic help in the second. If there were no differences of race, this sociological contrast would not be so obvious. Personally I deprecate both developments.

          • Vyncennt

            ” If there were no differences of race, this sociological contrast would not be so obvious. Personally I deprecate both developments.”

            I never implied there were no differences between the races. There are many, both physical and mental. Nor do I advocate for mixing of the races. In the vast majority of cases I believe we should stick to our own and they to theirs. The Orientals, for the most part, appear to believe the same.

            What I did say, and still believe, is that setting your targets on a few decent white men…for no other reason than their marital choice of an Asian woman…seems counterproductive. Calling them childish names is even more so. This issue is not so widespread…so prevalent…that we should be giving it the attention it is getting here.

          • David Ashton

            Personally I do not call men who marry outside their race childish names. There are social and biological arguments against wide crossing which have been neglected or suppressed since the mid-1960s.
            Miscegenation is becoming a familiar phenomenon in England and encouraged by the media.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

          I’m saying John has done what he has done, and you live with the consequences of your actions. I’m originally from Los Angeles and believe me, had had to live with the consequences of people’s actions every day.
          In this life there is the way things are, and there is what is best. we should always strive for the best, and that is for White men to marry and breed with White women.

          • Vyncennt

            “We should always strive for the best”

            Agreed. Yet we should never assume we will always achieve the best. We should always avoid the “worst”, if possible, and even the “bad”…but if no other option is reasonably available….”2nd best” should be a viable option. Blacks and whites together never achieve anything remotely close to “2nd best”.

            “White men to marry and breed with White women.”

            Again, I too believe that is the best combination. I’m not so shortsighted to assume it is an option for every white man in our country. If a small minority of white men wish to be with Oriental women, I don’t see where the issue is in the grander scheme of things. It is not widespread or systematic. I see many more white woman with black men where I live than Oriental women with white men. Many more. I choose to center my attention on the greater of two evils. Approaching either issue with grade school name calling helps neither cause. I’d like to believe we’re above that.

        • DudeWheresMyCountry?

          Go right ahead but don’t be mad when your kids are Asian and your family heritage is an irrelevant detail.

          • Vyncennt

            My kid has dirty blonde hair and blue eyes and my wife is not Oriental. I was defending Johns right to make the choice he did and not be labeled with prepubescent insults.

          • Defoe

            Would postpubescent insults be ok?

          • Vyncennt

            They’d be a welcome change at least? =)

      • a multiracial individual

        The child of a White person and an East Asian is white.

        • jay11

          This is an interesting point. The skin color will be white, and I have seen half white, half-asian kids who were as white as you and me. There are some blended facial features though, so the ‘edge’ of otherness will still be there. Ukraine and some places in southern Russia have interesting mixed white/asian peoples who mixed for thousands of years. Ever see a blonde woman with asian eyes? I have.
          The truth is that some combinations are ‘better’ than other, if there must be combinations. Some of the caucasians of northern india on up into afghanistan could pass for blonde or red headed, blue eyes americans if you took away the cultural garb and put them in blue jeans and a t-shirt.

          • SF Seal

            “I have seen half white, half-asian kids who were as white as you and me”

            You’re either lying or yout haven’t seen that many who had a full blood White parent . The overwhelming majority of half-asian kids will also go through a stage called “puberty” where their asian features will completely take over to end up looking nothing like the White parent.

            I’m from San Francisco which is the epicenter of White (mostly jews) asian couples, and I know what I’m talking about. If that’s the future of the White race, it ain’t gonna be White at all.

          • Vyncennt

            “You’re either lying or yout haven’t seen that many who had a full blood White parent . The overwhelming majority of half-asian kids will also go through a stage called “puberty” where their asian features will completely take over to end up looking nothing like the White parent.”

            I have a 100% white friend (a 6’4 southern redneck..by his own account, not mine!) who has a daughter with a 100% Chinese woman. Their daughter has blue (round) eyes, blonde hair, and facial features nearly identical to her father (unfortunately, lol). She is 18 years old this year. I’m pretty sure that’s past puberty. You’re painting with a very broad brush and looking the fool because of it.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            If you are comfortable doing a crapshoot with your genes go right ahead… maybe you won’t end up with a Chinachild… but maybe you will.

          • Vyncennt

            “If you are comfortable doing a crapshoot with your genes go right ahead”

            I don’t have an Oriental wife. All my genes are as safe as can be.

          • David Ashton

            The “Turanid” population probably descends from crossing between Europid=white Caucasian and Mongolid peoples. Many people in north-western India have Europid skulls, though also a dark pigmentation. I use John Baker’s terminology.

        • pcmustgo

          No… many come out looking purely Asian… some come out looking white… goes 50/50 in this department…. or some come out in between,. I don’t consider them white unless they look white.

        • Bad_Mr_Frosty

          Really? These kids are 3/4 White and 1/4 Korean, do they look White to you? White features are recessive, White+other=other, always.

          No offense, but I find multiracial people to have little, if any, real understanding of race.

          • a multiracial individual

            How does being a multi corrupt ones’ perspective? I have no blind loyalties. Is Keanu Reeves White?

        • Asians aren’t White

          “The child of a White person and an East Asian is white.”

          And you expect people to take you seriously with this kind of illogical statement, while referring to yourself as “multiracial” on top of that ? Oh the irony !

          • a multiracial individual

            That’s your reply? An ad hominem? As everyone on Amren admits, one can be 1/2 White and 1/2 Black and still be considered “Black.” So there is already a precedence for such a thing.

          • Defoe

            Oblabla!

      • DudeWheresMyCountry?

        Think of the bright side. Hangleman if he has offspring they won’t look like him or be like him or his ancestors. When they grow up they won’t think like him or identify with his heroes. They won’t view history or America as he does.

        And they won’t be people we have any alliance with nor will they be of our concern.

        In the end he loses, his ancestors lose and his bloodline dies.

        Best of all his genes will never be able to be race traitors again.

    • David Ashton

      You would have liked living in fascist Italy, then, more than you probably think.

    • fakeemail

      If I had the power, I would present the libs with a grand bargain: I’ll accept all your socialist, gay, and green bulldunk ONLY IF it is practiced in a virtually all white society where the vast majority of non-European peoples are ejected and barred from coming back.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        I would like to think they would accept. But knowing what I know of libs, they would tell us to screw off, because they can have both their “bulldunk” AND diversity with them running things. It’s not as if we’re exactly negotiating from a position of great political strength.

        • fakeemail

          True. The self-aware master minds of the left would realize that their bulldunk wouldn’t last long or be as potent in a white homogenous society.

          • Non Humans

            IMO, without the presence of nonhumans and other races with a considerable tendency towards violence and crime, otherwise, the things that liberals strive for (and force upon us) could conceivably work pretty well.
            .
            Up to the points of fundamentally altering our constitution (IE limiting free speech, restricting gun ownership, enforcing socialism, etc), anyways.
            .
            It’s the fact the the nonhumans (and other small criminal elements) abuse the systems and conditions that liberals put in place, to their unhindered advantage, that prevents their ideas from being a mostly positive influence.
            .
            But then again… I have been wrong in the past.

    • MBlanc46

      That’s pretty nicely put.

    • Jefferson

      With the exception of New York City, the majority of America’s safest big cities are all cities that have a lower percentage of Blacks than the national average.

      Big cities like Portland, Honolulu, Seattle, Austin, Salt Lake City, Boise, San Francisco, etc are pleasant places to live because the percentage of Blacks in those cities are all in the single digits.

    • MikeofAges

      Not to go into too much detail, but the liberal and progressive factions has sought to make every institution of which you speak into an outpost of popular front ideology. Live theater more than anything. Try writing and marketing a play that deals with social conservatism as a positive theme. I gave. I wrote a one-hour play several years ago that should have at least been produced somewhere. Never was, and never will be. These people have been marching through our culture like pig through a pile of acorns. I only hope that I live long enough to see the last die, and with my final, feeble breath get to declare, “At last, our long natural nightmare is finally over.”

      Hey, there’s a topic for you. Write a play about an old hippie who grow disillusioned with his beliefs and peers. You can even have the final line. And see how far you get trying to get it produced. You won’t, because it won’t have anyone in it who wants to marry a beagle or a horse. Even if the producers and directors wanted to run it, the undisciplined, delusional fools who are our actors and actresses would walk out in fit in the middle of rehearsals. When they want a mainstream audience, they put on Shakespeare and pretend like he was leftist social critic, not a monarchist. Just to pay the bills. And then they go back to type.

  • Bobby

    Gregory Hood is one of the best writers on contemporary racial politics, hands down!!

  • a multiracial individual

    I certainly lean left on social issues, that is why many liberals make me upset. I believe in a society that is not hostile to women or gays, so do most liberals, except for the fact that they invite the most homophobic and misogynistic third worlders into our societies. Liberals hate 1%ers, and wide gaps in wealth distrubution, yet they support their displacement through cheap immigrant labor (something that makes those 1%ers they hate so much very rich). Insane.

    • Nathanwartooth

      Yes they scream about how the gap between the 1% and everyone else is getting bigger all the time. But yet they can’t seem to figure out that outsourcing and increased immigration is what is widening the gap.

      I suppose this is because they are told that immigration and globalism are good things. So it would cause cognitive dissidence to believe it.

    • Derelictus

      A significant percentage of liberals ARE “1%ers”, or at least “10%ers”. Both mainstream liberalism and conservatism in this country (US) are beyond all hope, entirely contradictory and hypocritical. I see no hope in either party. I think, politically speaking, I’m throwing in the towel, as least as far as federal elections go.

      • pcmustgo

        Amen. Hello Occupy Wall St. This was proven. The leader was a trust fund kid and a half.

      • Defoe

        Totally agree. Go to youtube and look for “The speech that got Judge Napolitano fired”. He had his own show on fox news channel until about 4-6 months ago. Now he only “appears” occasionally as a spokesman.

    • Morris LeChat

      oh good, you are gay, the mixed line ends with you

      • Nathanwartooth

        You do know that gay people can have kids too, right? Biological kids, just like they have been doing for thousands of years.

    • Nathanwartooth

      ” Liberals hate 1%ers, and wide gaps in wealth distribution yet they support their displacement through cheap immigrant labor (something that makes those 1%ers they hate so much very rich). Insane.”

      Trying to explain this to a liberal is futile.

      In their brain all immigration is good, therefore it can’t help rich people.

      People don’t understand that the only way to raise wages is to have worker shortages. Not by importing millions of people to lower wages.

  • DailyKenn

    I think of racial discourse as the land of liberals where conservatives are deemed unwelcome illegal aliens and race realists hated as outright subversives.

    There is a reason for their jealous obsession.

    In 2012 non-whites overwhelmingly supported their presidential candidate and their agenda. 71 percent of Hispanics, 73 percent of Asians, and 93 percent of blacks defied the will of the white majority.

    How interesting that liberals obsessively chatter about race, often salting their conversations with racial code words and ‘dog whistles’ such as ‘diversity,’ ‘social justice,’ and ‘equality.’ It is an issue they own outright, jealously guarding their domain against that rare courageous conservative who would venture to trespass by expressing race-realist truths. Such honesty by conservatives is promptly shot down as ‘racist’ or ‘white supremacist.’ (See here: http://www.amren.com/news/2013/04/protests-against-white-separatism-group-planned-at-park/)

  • KenelmDigby

    “Those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
    We must be mad. Literally mad as a nation………….”.
    (Excerpt from the ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech, delivered by the Right Honorable Enoch Powell MP, at Wolverhampton, England 1968).

  • KenelmDigby

    “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
    George Orwell.

  • KenelmDigby

    “Insanity is rare in the individual, but common in the collective”.
    Friedrich Nietzsche.

  • Bad_Mr_Frosty

    For a logical argument to hold, every element within the proof must be true. If even one statement is false, the entire proof is worthless. For example, it is possible to logically prove that 2+2=5 if you assume that 0/0=0. A lot of people forget that you cannot divide by zero.

    The entire liberal worldview is false and invalid because it contains blatant lies and holds them to be true.

    • Defoe

      The problem is that the “entire liberal worldview” has, for the last one hundred years, pretty much destroyed the Western World. Not bad for a view that is “false and invalid”.

      Is something else at work??

  • LHathaway

    It’s easy to criticize someone else and harder to face up to your own problems.. A higher portion of black women gradate from college than white men.

    • robinbishop34

      How many white men major in black studies or gay social sciences? How many black women major in the hard sciences? Don’t you get it? Throw in affirmative action, quotas, pressure to pass minorities, and discrimination against the very white men who invented universities and you can cook the books however you like.

      • LastBastionOfHope

        Hey come on! There is one social science that is not a walk-through. Certain fields of psychology are very respected and considered a hard science. While psych used to be very subjective, it has become extremely research-based and statistical. Getting into some psych grad programs is just as hard as getting into med school and harder than many law programs.

        • robinbishop34

          Never respond to me again.

    • KenelmDigby

      I remember reading somewhere that the median net cash worth, (in terms of assets), of a ‘typical’ black woman was a completely trivial sum.

      • [Guest]

        There’s always a lot of propaganda bundled in with such claims. Here, for example, is an article on a study called “Lifting as We Climb: Women of Color, Wealth and America’s Future.” 



        “Study finds median wealth for single black women at $5″

        (http://tinyurl.com/cwewxvu)

        Among the gems in this propaganda piece: “Black women, in general, were more likely to have participated in the subprime loan crisis….”

        In more accurate words, white taxpayers bought black females nice houses that they ended up not paying for.

    • rightrightright

      Blacks find it very easy (and make it their living so often) to criticise someone else, blaming that someone for their own problems which they can’t face up to.

    • LastBastionOfHope

      Look at the role affirmative action played, the major they got involved in, and what that led to. I know a black girl that got into John’s Hopkins with the same grades as me and I can assure you I was nowhere near Hopkins material.

    • dhs

      That’s a significant point. Many white men who a generation ago would have studied engineering, medicine , law, etc., are going into plumbing, auto repair, etc. This situation is caused by the importation of genius talent from Asia and India, as well as Fedgov mandated discrimination against white males. These are the “problems” that young intelligent white men are “facing up to”.

    • IstvanIN

      ….with degrees in Afro-Caribbean studies and then go too work in a government job that requires precious little actual intelligence. I have had to put up with many nit-wits at work who had Bachelor degrees, and even Masters degrees, who could not put together a simple declarative sentence resembling standard English. A BA isn’t worth as much as a HS diploma was 35 years ago. As for white men graduating from college, white men are actively discriminated against in college admissions. In addition we need bright men in the trades. A white auto technician, computer equipemtn technician, plumber, electrician, HVAC technician, etc. will no doubt be more competent than his black counter part. Look at African cities and then tell me that skilled tradesmen are not needed to maintain a modern society.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

      ? What on earth are you talking about ?

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      Simply not true. You actually believe more Black women graduate from college than White men? Hey, I’ve got a big statue to sell you, ya it’s in New York Harbor right off the coast of New Jersey.

  • K Foy

    Tour de force article, I felt I was reading emperor Julian’s ‘Against the Galilaeans’.

  • sbuffalonative

    Succinct and on point. This piece cut to the heart of every issue; why some ‘progressive’ cities thrive (because they’re white) as opposed to why other ‘progressive’ cities fail (because they’re black).

    Both the ‘progressive’ left and the right dance around the issue. While we may not like it and see them as cowards, race is a dangerous issue for white conservatives. Uttering one politically correct word can end a life-long career. The ‘progressive’ left controls the language and the debate.

    The question is how do we as realists take the language back and get our message across.

    This this piece is a good example of cutting through the nonsense and the obfuscation both sides are boxed into. The facts are right in front of us. We just need to keep pointing them out until people admit they’re true.

    • JohnEngelman

      Affluent whites, whether they are liberals or conservatives, usually know few blacks. These few are exceptional, or they occupy subordinate positions without resentment.

      In order to learn what most blacks are really like one usually needs to see them up close every day on terms of approximate equality in an environment where they are in the clear majority.

      When blacks are in the minority most try to behave. When they are in the majority most behave the way they want to behave. Many do not want to behave well.

      Affluent white conservatives are mainly concerned with skewing things a little more in favor of the affluent. Do not expect them to be your allies if you live in or near a black neighborhood and cannot afford to live, and/or the only job you can find is in or near a black neighborhood.

      • LastBastionOfHope

        You don’t have to know every black person to generalize in the same way that you don’t need to get to know every great white shark to generalize they are dangerous. I live in the NYC metro area just 25 minutes from a 70% black town, and only 45 minutes from inner city NYC. I am either passing through, or in the area all the time. I have probably seen thousands of black people in my lifetime. I would estimate that anywhere from 55-60% are the ghetto, rude, hip hop culture type. I have had doors shut on me by black women, I have walked on a train with my sister to which a black woman refused to move aside walking past and bumped into her then gave us a dirty look, I have been told I was in “the wrong side of town”, and the only 3-4 times I’ve ever nearly gotten into an all-out brawl was instigated by blacks. Save your rhetoric…I know how they are.

        • Vyncennt

          I believe you misread Johns post. He was saying much the same as you…

      • DudeWheresMyCountry?

        Do you ever look at your posts? You say the same thing over and over. You rarely acknowledge good arguments against your opinions. More and more I’m thinking Hangleman is a bot; or at least operates like one.

        • JohnEngelman

          I love to respond to civil debate and debatable points. I try to ignore insults.

      • David Ashton

        Do these “affluent whites” include any Members of your Superior Race who “skew things a little more in favor” of the Superior Race, or are these simply individuals with Superior Intelligence and Superior Integrity?

  • Tim

    As a student of the cold war, I read a line that sums up our own demise. “America is headed to the dustbin of history for the exact same reason as the Soviet Union. The false and unenforceable assumption of the universal brotherhood of man.”…

    • fakeemail

      Yes. A nation that holds as truth a “noble” lie that is contra to human nature will ultimately fall.

  • dmxinc

    As much as people don’t like the question, they are even more disturbed by the answers and the solutions.

    Eliminate or control blacks, hispanics, or whatever in our society? In today’s societies, people will accept their death, the deaths of their family members, the death of the future to avoid confronting the answers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

    I was just reading this article I found on the Drudge Report–

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b29afeae-9dc9-11e2-bea1-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Ph07O1cp

    Apparently the pollution in parts of China is getting so bad, the locals are thinking of leaving. In the article, a Chinese man talks about where he is headed, and he says the logical choice is London!!!
    London??!! If I had problems here in the US, problems bad enough to move, Beijing wouldn’t be my first choice. Oh Dear God. They believe living in our nations is a birthright. We’re at the top of their lists. Get me off this planet.

    • KingKenton

      Just curious if anyone has any knowledge of what the process to immigrate to Russia is? Are there any American expatriates living in Russia that can share their experiences? Honestly, once our second Amendment rights have been eviscerated, I can’t really say I see any reason to stay in America. I’m not naive, I don’t see Russia as a utopia or a panacea to anything. But they do seem to be going in the right direction in general (which is to say, the opposite direction of America). What other countries do people on Amren see as potential destinations for immigration? I realize there are still Whitetopias to be found in some parts of the United States. I live in one. Even so, the array of cultural problems that beset America are so legion that at some point one no longer wants to be a part of that culture.

      • Derelictus

        I’m not sure why you think Russia’s gun rights laws are better than America’s, considering its collectivist history of property confiscation? Russia is still an authoritarian state, it never really moved on from communist-style rule.

        • KingKenton

          The tide has turned in America for gun ownership. It is only a matter of years before the 2nd Amendment essentially becomes null and void. Gun ownership in America is going to look like Britian, Australia, or Russia. Once the 2nd Amendment is gone what does America really have to offer? Fredom of speech? Maybe… But as the country slides furthur into Liberal Totalitarianism expect America to become like the rest of Western Europe, which essentially means severely restricted speech, harrassment, and possible prosecution.

          I hate to sound so pessimistic, but this appears to be our future short of something happening that borders on the miraculous. The lunatics are running the asylum, expect the worse.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

        You know, tipping our collective hats to America and parting ways would have sounded horrible just a few years ago, but the way things are crumbling fast, it’s something to think about. I don’t know if I would go to Russia, but anything would be on the table if the area was majority White. In the end, it doesn’t matter where we end up. Nature has seen to it that we come out on top when left alone. The only problem is, no one ever leaves us alone, plus, White people have a nasty habit of importing cheap or even slave labor. Stupid, stupid, Stupid. Pick your own fruits and vegetables, clean your own toilets and pool. Raise your own kids.

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        Russia is being flooded with Muslims just like the rest of Europe. The government is funding the building of new mosques. Ever since the fall of Communism it’s been like the the US border with Mexico. Putin talks tough, but he’s no different than any other White leader, a slave to the globalist bankers.

        • KingKenton

          Not saying your wrong, but here’s my impression of what’s going on in Russia today.

          1) After decades of persecution under the Communist’s, the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) has once again become an important part of Russian life and enjoys the popular support of the people. The number one priority of the Communist (jews?), was to murder the ROC.

          2) Putin is (supposedly), a devout ROC and is very friendly / favorable to the ROC playing a role is helping Russia to reestablish itself as a post-Communist nation and to reclaim much of what Russians consider good.

          3) Given 1 and 2, I doubt very seriously that Russia is looking to allow to Islam establish itself in White Russia. It is true that Russia has a Muslim population that it has to contend with, but I’m pretty sure they plan on containing it in the historically Islamic enclaves.

          4) Putin, Duggin, the ROC, and other Russian leaders and intellectuals are acutely aware of the cultural meltdown in the West due to Liberalism and multiculturalism. Witness Putin’s recent mandate to disallow adoption of Russian children by homosexuals. This decision was wildly popular with the Russian and American people. Also, note that Russia is booting out Western Liberal NGO (front-groups) that are in Russia to act as agent provocateurs and establish 5th columns. (which has caused much wailing and gnashing of teeth among the Western Liberal establishment).

          5) AFAIK, Russia want’s nothing to do with the global international banking system. Which is why the are buying large quantities of gold and looking to establish an alternative to the existing system. This is one of the reasons why the Western media establishment is running propaganda stories trying to make Russia out to be a rouge nation and a threat to America that will have to be dealt with. (along with those listed in item 4 above)

          6) Putin is actively encouraging the White people of Russia to reproduce and is even paying them to do so. He is also looking to eliminate the use of abortion for demographic reasons, though he may have personal reasons and may be under pressure from the ROC.

          I have no doubt that Putin or Russia could or does exhibit totalitarian behavior. But does not America also? How many times has the totalitarian federal judiciary of America trampled the will of the people with little or no resistance from the executive or legislative branches? Or for that matter, Presidential directives, which seem rather “authoritarian” to me.

          Just my $.02 worth… thanks for reading.

          • Defoe

            You are correct about Putin and Russia; both are being vilified by the western media BECAUSE Putin does not play well with the globalists. The more I read in the international media about Putin and the things he is doing for “his people”, the more I admire the man.

            Nevertheless, I am an American, and no matter how bad it gets here, I will stay and do my part to make things right again.

      • Talltrees

        Some Whites have moved to Ukraine and like it.

    • Bossman

      Yes, every Chinese person wants to leave China. The only problem with that is that there are almost 1.5 billion of them. A billion is one thousand million.

      • Defoe

        Engelman would love for those 1.5 billion to come here. He’d be in “hog heaven” as they say.

        • David Ashton

          “Put me among the girls” anyway.

    • David Ashton

      England is a world magnet. Our judiciary seems to think that anyone who might want “asylum” here (e.g. the female population of Muslim societies) are welcome.

  • Bossman

    I did not learn anything by reading this article. The writer is all over the place. Thoroughly unfocused and alarmist.
    American democracy is a work in progress and so far it has survived. What is now the United States has always been multiracial from the very beginning. First, there was the American Indians, then came the Europeans who did not like doing the very heavy work involved in taming the continent so they imported millions of enslaved Africans. Then came the American revolution and the Founders said that all men were born free and equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights. Good government and good citizenship should be about integrating people into the society. People in this forum will become credible once they stop bashing so-called Hispanics. Hispanics are not a race but a cultural group who want and need to be integrated into the American family

    • Tim

      Sounds good on paper guy, but before yo sway me I need to hear what they really think of us… No just what we or you think of them.

    • LastBastionOfHope

      No. Sorry, can’t let you get away with lies. Listen to me and listen good. THE NATIVE AMERICANS NEVER HAD THEIR OWN COUNTRY! They were never a part of the United States of America. They had nothing to do with it. America was the parking lot they inhabited, and we built our own country on it. Yes it was never 100% white, but it was damn close.

      • Bossman

        I said that democracy is a work in progress. And citizenship is also an evolving idea. At first American Indians and Blacks were to be excluded from it for ever. But concepts and ideas evolve over time. What do you want to happen?. That the U.S be balkanized? That we all revert to tribalism? Back to the days of the primal hordes?

        • Derelictus

          Balkanization is happening NOW, because of mass immigration and perpetual derision of the host culture (Western European/White-derived, that is).

          I don’t oppose nonwhite citizens, I guess some AmRen commenters do. But only if they agree to respect the laws/traditions of the dominant culture. Which many aren’t and never will do so.

          • Cannot Tell

            I hope you someday come to oppose non-white citizens. Or at least blacks, mulattos, and mestizos. They cannot respect the laws/traditions of the dominant culture. They cannot assimilate.

        • IstvanIN

          Universal suffrage has been a disaster. Allowing the retarded, the ignorant and welfare recipients to decide the fate of the nation is insanity. Balkanization would be preferable to a US where whites are a persecuted, hunted minority.

        • dhs

          “Work in progress” is a meaningless phrase, unless it references a specific task that is incomplete and those responsible don’t know how to complete it.

          The Africans were imported to work in the hot humid south. White men did the “heavy work of taming the continent”.

          Liberals will deem Amren and its supporters crazy, evil, or stupid, no matter what views they express on Hispanic.

          Please keep in mind that you are posting to Amren, not writing a paper for a Liberal indoctrination course.

        • John

          “What do you want to happen?”

          I want the clouds to rain donuts and candy and criminals to become sane and productive, and rainbows to extend peace and happiness and freedom over ever mountain and valley in the world.

          • Bossman

            Donuts and candy is not all that good for you. Happiness and freedom, I want that too.

        • Defoe

          “Back to the days of the primal hordes?”

          No, but back to the days where White American culture can thrive, where White American citizens have equal rights, where White American citizens can walk the streets of our great cities without fear for our lives, where White American children can go to school without fear of rape and murder, where White American citizens don’t have to pay and pay and pay for welfare for those who do not work and do not want to work. No primal hordes, but how about some freedom and civilization again?

    • Vyncennt

      “I did not learn anything by reading this article. ”

      I’d guess the fault lies more with the reader than the article in this case….

      “American democracy is a work in progress and so far it has survived.”

      “Has survived” and “is terminally ill” are not synonymous.

      “What is now the United States has always been multiracial from the very beginning.”

      If “multiracial” is defined as 95%+ one race…then yes…we’ve been “multiracial” from the beginning. Demographic percentages spanning the last century or more are not that hard to get a hold of. You might consider doing a bit of research prior to posting obviously inaccurate information.

      “Good government and good citizenship should be about integrating people into the society.”

      Even if specific groups of people absolutely refuse to be integrated? How do you propose we do this? Also, since when did “good citizenship” become defined by how well citizens intergrated other citizens? (or non-citizens for that matter)?

      “the Founders said that all men were born free and equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights. ”

      Born free and equal under the law. Not biologically. Only a fool would believe we are all born biologically equivalent. As to inalienable rights? Is this another ideal we’ve recently redefined? I don’t remember “inalienable rights” meaning that some people have one set of rights and others have another.

      “People in this forum will become credible once they stop bashing so-called Hispanics.”

      If you wish us to use another label, we’d be happy to oblige. “Hispanic” is not a title those on AmRen invented. It is one that our government provided for us and is widely utilized by the vast majority of US citizens. We will stop “bashing” these “so-called Hispanics” when they stop invading our country, bashing our country while illegally living in our country, draining our social safety net programs, and turning our neighborhoods into ghetto barrios. Fair enough?

      “Hispanics are not a race but a cultural group who want and need to be integrated into the American family”

      This cultural group refuse to integrate into the American culture. They push for American culture to mirror the cultures of their homelands. Replacing the people and culture of one nation with another nations people and culture is not integration or assimilation. Or have we redefined those two words also?

    • Derelictus

      Are you serious? Most of the “heavy work” in developing America was done BY Whites, FOR Whites. Slaves played a role, but nowhere near to what you seem to be implying, historically speaking.

      Also, all evidence points to a great many Hispanics not wanting to assimilate into American society at all. Some do, yes, but others simply want to assert their own culture and replace the host culture (i.e. White America, which according to many liberals isn’t even a culture at all). No offense but you need to do a bit more reading on the race/culture/immigration debate. You sound rather naive.

    • gemjunior

      Slaves were brought in by the “elites” of the time, as Central Americans are brought in by the same type of “elites” in our present time. They are too cheap to pay a white man a fair and honest wage, as well as all the other things they’ve done to destroy the one-salary home and surrounding society. The truth is that all whites have built this country and any help or heavy lifting that was done could have been done by whites and, had the idiot whites known the future, most likely would have been done by whites because they would not have imported any of these people. Hispanics will never assimilate and integrate into the American family – by their own choice. Never – their pride in their Hispanic heritage will never allow it.

    • ProWhite son of Jacob

      What you are saying is that we should repeat the same mistakes as the Roman Empire (whose main success was largely made in part by limiting citizenship. Without universal suffrage). Rome was taken over by hostile forces that were incorporated into Rome at a time of social and military decay (the Greek system had been abandoned, and the Senate didn’t control the army, but rather wealthy benefactors did or random chieftains whose legionares were ultimately not loyal to Rome but the general–who was also often hostile to Rome). These hostile forces did not consider themselves Roman, nor did they have any allegiance to Rome other than perhaps money.

      Thus, the great multicultural society finally fell. I do not mean to state Rome was not beautiful in many ways or that it was not a model society with Ius Civiles, Ius Gentium, and Ius Naturale… But what destroyed Rome is what is going to destroy America now. I realize Democracy (or a Republic, which is what this is) is a work in progress. But using the precedence of Rome–which functioned at its most optimal state when it was a Republic on the Italian peninsula colonizing and submitting other groups to Roman citizens, who had greater influence in the Senate–we must learn from history how to create that “more perfect union” our Founders wanted.

      The Founders also understood this and limited voting to Whites with property. There’s a difference between relative equality, and consideration for the selection of our leaders. As far as I’m concerned, the Whites back then selected our leaders well.

      Also, the suggestion behind perfecting “Democracy” assumes that our current strategies will not destroy our Republic. You can’t perfect something you don’t have. Presently, our Republic will survive for some time more… But like Rome, the catalyst of destruction will be when non-Whites begin to control most military positions. Currently, there are blacks and Hispanics in the military, but their commanders are people with brains–they are White. And the negative aspects of their behavior are ameliorated by the presence of Whites. When/if non-Whites begin to gain widespread positions of prominence in the military… The breakdown will be an echo of Rome. It doesn’t matter how pro-American some of the leaders might be, the sociology of the group will change… And likewise many of its objectives.

      • Bossman

        The Romans didn’t have the necessary technology to hold on to a very large empire. Their empire was held together by extreme violence and constant warfare.

        • DudeWheresMyCountry?

          Are you capable of saying anything that is actually true?

    • MBlanc46

      I don’t see a lot of evidence that they want to be integrated. Quite the contrary, we have to become a bilingual nation to accommodate them.

    • jeffaral

      Bossman: You are an anti-White racist.

    • David Ashton

      What is “La Raza” all about, then?

    • HKwills

      America in 1959: 88.5 % white. Review the stats on “hispanics” i.e. mexicans. It is nothing to benefit America.

  • http://christianlivingblog.com isaiah14

    Fort Hood was a drill. Nobody died there. I don’t know how anybody can believe this story when military personal freely carry their weapons on base. I know I did when I was in the military and I’m retired military. Go to a military base and you will find trash cans leaning at a 45 degree angle before entering a building. Those trash cans are filled with sand, and they are used by soldiers to unload their weapons before they walk into a building. The Fort Hood shooter is an actor and he is right now doing reality TV shows.

    • anarchyst

      Not true. Clinton signed an executive order banning carrying of personally-owned firearms on base.

      • http://christianlivingblog.com isaiah14

        Really, than how come when I was i the National Guard i carried my weapon with me all the time. Even in the chow hall. The Fort Hood shooter didn’t have a personally-owned firearm. The firearm was issued to him. Go to any Base and you will see soldiers carrying their weapons. I did so in Germany, Iceland, Suadi Arabia, Fort McCoy, and other places. Remember, the National Guard is the combat arms in our military. 85% of combat arms is in the National Guard. The Fort Hood Shooting was a drill. The military does this all the time. When I was in the national Guard we would train for domestic disturbances. May of us would be in civilian clothes acting as the rioters. I have trained with National Guard snipers and also 82nd. airborne snipers in the same way. In the Fort Hood shooting there was no blood, many of the participants were wearing tags that designated them as being in a position of monitoring the scenario. Sort of like at Columbine where members of the ATF were on the roof of the school, and a man with a clip board went up to them and started to jot down things on the clip board. He was monitoring their actions, and accessing what they were doing to ensure that they were doing it correctly. There is a video; unless it has been taken down, of Kleibold rehearsing his lines for his part in Columbine. The video is only about three minutes long, but Kleibold is dressed in a trench coat, and has a stupid hat on his head. In the video he cusses and walks toward the camera; than he makes a mistake, and walks back to where he started from and does it again. Go to the internet and look for it. I have seen it.

  • LastBastionOfHope

    Reading such stark truth, I get that feeling in my gut that says “YES! This is reality! This is EXACTLY what is going on!”. But dare I express this in grad school or god forbid a job and I will hastily be kicked out. Whites are enslaved today. We are forced to walk on eggshells around anyone non-white, especially blacks. We are forced to standby, watch black thugs grinding on our white women in clubs, and say “Hooray! I love diversity!”. We are forced to take classes in prestigious colleges next to blacks from the inner-city who couldn’t even pass a high school statistics class thanks to affirmative action. Then when there is racial tension and the black students give you that “stare”, we are supposed to say, “Hooray! Diversity…I love it!”.

    We are required to wear painted smiles, and exclaim artificial lust for diversity. But at the end of the day we all go home and this is where we end up…AmRen. Why? Because this is truly one of the last bastions of unabashed reality. One of the last places the PC tank has not mowed down and ravaged. It’s the equivalent of pristine forest the lumberjacks and urban developers never got to. We can tell the truth here and not get fired or called that god forsaken “r-word”. I think of white people like a white baby playing with minority babies in a play pen. We offer them our toys out of kindness. They then take them, and never give them back…we never get our turn. That’s what this country has turned into. It was our country that WE founded, and then we were told to share it with brown and black people. Now they have La Raza seeking to literally reclaim lost territory in previous wars, blacks destroying every square inch of once pristine urban areas, and there are so many minorities (especially illegal ones) who will now ensure that non-Democrats will never win another election. America, it was nice while it lasted. Unfortunately I was born after the golden era that ended in the 60′s…before the feminists and the “let’s see how non-racist we can be” groups took over. What are whites waiting for? We need to talk about this en masse NOW! We are only losing numbers and power, not vice versa. Become immune to silly names and speak the truth.

    • Non Humans

      Most are probably waiting until they have no choice but to deal with it, thus they are not paying attention, and do not care. The saddest part is that when the point comes that they have no choice but to deal with it, it will be too late, for them anyways. For they will be the ones who have not prepared at all for the eventuality. Most will not even be at the realization of the truth of the situation until they have the gun to their head.
      .
      I find this staggering because the truth of the situation is obvious, and depending upon exactly where you live, is right up in your face, everyday.
      .
      Oh and AmRen isn’t the last bastion, man, it is actually among the first. There are plenty more out there, and more appearing daily. People are coming around, but (unfortunately) it seems that it’s going to take something catastrophic to catalyze any serious action against the libtards stranglehold. It’s probably not far off, though. Why else would DHS be hoarding ammo as they are?

      • Defoe

        ” Why else would DHS be hoarding ammo as they are?”

        Perhaps simply to keep it out of your hands.

  • Mike Lane

    The last time I asked liberals what the “strengths of diversity” are, I either received no reply, or “ethnic food” as an answer. The best reply I’ve heard was that biodiversity broadens the gene pool, and interracial mixing prevents inbreeding, which falls apart as soon as you note that broadening the gene pool only works when you take in superior elements, and that past white societies (Persia, Vedic India, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Rome, Europe, America) are at their highest when homogeneous.

    What we need to do is start going on Left wing forums and bring in these ideas. With enough of us, we’ll get them join, or at least see race realism a serois topic.

    • Non Humans

      Or they will simply do what libtards do best in the face of reality and facts….
      .
      Call us names we’ve been called millions of times before. And deny all of us (including them) the opportunity to have an intelligent debate on the topic.

    • David Ashton

      Worth trying, if you start with suitable language.

  • anonymous

    “If diversity truly was unity, our Cathedral commissars would not have to blare the message on every street corner and ram it into our skulls. The unity would be self-evident. A good rule of thumb is that the more a ruling class idea is separated from reality, the more diligently it must be propagandized.”

    Quote from a brilliant article in Chateau Heartiste titled “The Stongest Links”

  • ProWhite son of Jacob

    “They tell us diversity is a strength. Actually, it’s just a word that means we can no longer have nice things.”

    That was beautiful.

  • Lygeia

    I could not have said it better.

    This is the best article on race that I have ever read.

  • LastBastionOfHope

    I just watched a documentary called “Runaway Slave”. It shows how liberals are the true racists because they treat blacks like children with no expectations and keep them dependent on the government plantation. GREAT movie. I really suggest it. It’s on Netflix now.

    http://www.runawayslavemovie.com/

  • David Ashton

    Disraeli’s aphorism was an overstatement, but the problem today is the lip-service given to its opposite, except when “race” can be exploited against white people.

  • Cannot Tell

    As soon as I start making enough money, I’m going to start offering essay scholarships about the evidence that genetics plays a much bigger role in IQ than environment does. This scholarship will be offered to white high school, college, and graduate students. I’m hoping that rewarding students for studying issues related to race realism will wake them up.

    Egalitarians cannot suppress the truth forever.

  • fakeemail

    A beautifully written article. Honest, heartfelt, and true. Only a total fool, madman, or liar would deny the elegant self-evident truth so simply stated here. Unfortunately, our country seems to be comprised of at least 80% fools, madmen, and liars. To them this article is “hate.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/rentiadiedericks Rentia Diedericks

    There is an answer: APARTHEID

    • Defoe

      Speaking of which, brace yourselves for the death of Mandela. The entire liberal world will be wailing like never before. We will hear nothing from the electronic toilet for weeks except what an outstanding leader he was. He will be lionized like, well, like MLK.

      I think I will go on an extended hike during that period.

  • Funruffian

    If Diversity is ever shown in a good light, it’s almost always a planned or manufactured event like the Academy Awards or other Entertainment award shows where all these celebrities are forced and obliged to partake in a phony Love-in of mutual appreciation and respect. And sometimes those phony environments even fail to live up to the pretense of Diversity. But if it ever is successful, it’s temporary and stops right there. The instant they leave the Grand Hall, aauditorium or pavillion it ends.

  • Jefferson

    [QUOTE]Refusing to accept this means that official opinion and public policy
    grow ever more outlandish and divorced from reality. Even free speech
    becomes a thing of the past as we have to lie more and more to ourselves
    and each other to prevent us from seeing that the Emperor of Diversity
    has no clothes. Thus, we end up with a country where after Army soldiers
    are gunned down by a non-white, the Army Chief of Staff General Casey
    says, “As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a
    casualty, I think that’s worse.” We have to recognize that to actually
    believe this is to confess to being a madman.[/QUOTE]

    In the eyes of liberals, being a racially aware White person is a trillion times worst than being a mass murderer.

  • Potestas_Tenebrarum

    And ye shall know the TRUTH, and the truth shall make you FREE. ~John 8:32

  • Andrei

    Stockton looks worse than a 3rd world country. All you see is ghettos , stinky Mexicans with sagging pants wearing red, black prostitutes in every corner, junkies , buildings falling apart, and drunk hobos. I rarely see any whites around the city. I always say that liberals are more destructive than an atomic bomb, and by the looks of it , I’m totally right !

    • http://www.facebook.com/jasbo.adink Jasbo Adink

      My, that’s a very offensive pic you have there. Keep up the good work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

    As Benjamin Disraeli wrote, “All is race, there is no other truth.”
    ++++++++

    Cool.

  • anonymous

    “Race must retake its central place in the public debate.”

    There is no public debate and there will never be one as long as the mainstream media remain in the hands of the “Left,” but in the final analysis it doesn’t really matter. There’s no reason to debate the role of race in the first place because the facts are already known.

    We don’t need a debate; we need a solution.

    This is an excellent article, well written and argued, and I don’t really disagree with any of it, but the bottom line here is that Gregory Hood is just restating the obvious and avoiding the obvious question, namely what can be done about it?

    • Derelictus

      …Apparently nothing? You’re right, I see caterwauling and denouncements from WNs and opponents of multiculturalism, but I never see anyone proposing actual solutions for the problem…’white homeland’ is the closest thing I see resembling a solution, I guess all Whites should pack their bags, move to the Dakotas, and shut the gates?

  • jay11

    I live this reality every day. I work in a public institution that caters to blacks and latinos. The mostly white teachers pretend – literally pretend – that the students are no different at all than kids from Leave it to Beaver or any nice white suburb.
    Our students are preggers left and right, or they show up only once or twice a week (and late to boot) and almost none do any homework. Our “Top” students would be less than average in any suburban school, but we laud them as “so smart” or as a “genius.” The gassing up I see is nauseating.
    In reality, 99% (no exxageration) of our ‘students’ mostly are unruly, distracted, disinterested, low IQ or just come to school for the free food, structure and health services. Most know they have to get this mystical paper called a diploma to get a decent job, but so few have the chutzpah or capabilities to attain one (at least without the fabrication of grades I have seen for YEARS going on).
    I send my three kids to private school and have to pay for a type of education that was once free for all, until diversity showed up and made everything third world in substance and nature. I live in a city that is something like 70% non-white now. (My area is still fairly white, though asians are making serious inroads.) In most places I go, I am usually the ONLY white face I see. I don’t feel that that mexican guy over there or that korean woman over here or that nigerian chap is ‘my fellow american.”
    These days, when I see more than three white people in a group on the street I stop and stare, because I don’t usually see that much anymore. Outside of work, when I see any white on the street, it’s usually an old lady scurrying by or some lone white kid on the move. There’s a big public middle school near where I work. It is 100% latino with a few blacks and ‘other’. One day, to my surprise, I saw a lone white student walking on the sidewalk at dismissal time. One waif of a blonde girl. She was walking alone, head down, while throngs of latinos were walking by in big boisterous groups. I felt sad for here. Foreigners have taken us over and are picking over the dying corpse of a once great nation. China will remain, as will India, Mexico and all the rest. The U.S. will be picked clean and ultimately divided into small racialist-based states. Liberals and Conservatives are both to blame.

    • Bobby

      Jay, it’s interesting you mention Leave It To Beaver. My niece is attending a community college and a loud mouthed Latina in the class pretending to be an Indian, suddenly started to berate the handfull of white kids in the class, because she said they “killed her people.” The worthless beard scratcher Professor, in this liberal arts class, did not say a word, no doubt biding his time till he retired, my niece stating he was an “older man”. Anyway, my niece sais that after this latina’s rant, she said in a loud voice, “This isn’t “Leave It To Beaver “, anymore”. At that, finally one white kid, said, ” that’s for sure”, leaving the whole class dumbfounded and some kids laughing.

    • JohnEngelman

      Like many here you are not distinguishing between Orientals and third world peoples. If instead of our large black and Hispanic population we had an equally large number of Orientals things would be working a whole lot better in this country. The crime rate would be much lower. Your students would be respectful and studious.

      • Derelictus

        You seem quite driven with your East Asian advocacy, I know you find Asian women attractive but this is a ‘White nationalist’ site, do you think you will convince the majority of the site’s readers to allow mass immigration of ‘Orientals’ simply for the fact that they’re a better choice than violent mestizos or blacks?

        Personally, I’m increasingly convinced by some ‘race realist’ arguments, but I’m not a 100% immigration restrictionist, I’ve known too many good people in my life who aren’t ‘white’ and who assimilate well into American society. I’d imagine a great many AmRen commenters keep to themselves and have very little interaction with nonwhites, thus they have a too-all encompassing generalization of all nonwhites as ‘undesirable’ to have around them. But I guess I’m just a race-traitor, which is fair enough.

        • David Ashton

          I don’t see why one cannot have friendly contacts with interesting non-white individuals and yet also wish our own societies to remain predominantly and permanently “white” in race and culture.

        • Bossman

          East Asian women have no tits and not much ass. They have flat, vapid, expressionless faces. They generally don’t smile too much. They have zero sex appeal for me. I always wonder about white men who find them attractive.
          Many old, decrepit and unattractive American men who can’t find wives in the U.S. go to the Philippines or China to find a wife. I know one such man myself.

      • Bossman

        Why was there a Chinese Exclusion Act by the U.S government? Why did Mexico and Canada also have similar laws? I worry that some day they will overrun North America. Asians are like ants; they will take over a place if not checked.

      • David Ashton

        This contribution recalls a story told to me by an English teacher who worked in Singapore schools with “Oriental” i.e. Chinese, pupils, then quite rowdy. She went into one classroom where there was a riot, grabbed the first little chap by the scruff of his collar, and shouted at him: “This is quite disgraceful! You are making most of the noise!”
        “Put me down instantly, Madam,” he said. “I am the teacher.”

    • Luca

      You must live in So Cal as I do, if not, we have the same environment. The problem with “Diversity” is that it discourages assimilation. In other words, it promotes being different, not being American and not being White. A recipe for disaster. I see older generations of Hispanics and Asians who came here in smaller numbers who over two or three generations became largely assimilated into mainstream America, not through protest and public handouts but through hard work, education and merit.

      These newer waves of immigrants encouraged to remain “diverse” and emboldened by their leftist enablers want it all, want it now and want in their language.

      America is purposely being divided along racial, cultural, gender, political, age and economic lines. We have been infiltrated and indoctrinated through Hollywood, the media, politics and academia and this is what has kept us divided.

      If the insanity does not stop and enough people do not wake up, there can only be dire consequences. The increase in gun and ammo sales are a good indication that many people are tired of the leftist agenda.

    • David Ashton

      Dreadful. My hometown in “England”, the London Borough of Waltham Forest (see my post above), is now officially only half English, but its white MP twitters on about its rich (!) and vibrant (!!) diversity.

  • Morris LeChat

    diversity has already become a “tragedy”/ The liberals just like living with the stinking corpse. All we here want to do is bury it.

  • pcmustgo

    For whatever reason, in the past few days, I have seen several white women with mixed race kids- I actually don’t see that much of this here in NYC… mostly white males with asian women and their mixes… last week it was a beautiful, 30 something, white germanic blond with a half black kid in tow (not a very white spectrum leaning one either), and today two sort of middle aged, frumpy white women with some kind of mix I couldn’t even tell what was… I guess half white/half east Indian… or Latino, I am not sure. The kids were totally brown looking and looked absolutely nothing like her. I of course wanted to ask her if they were adopted… I didn’t.

    I used to have no problem with race-mixing, but it is kind of sad to see, especially when the mixed race kids wind up looking nothing like the mother.

    I think many wind up regretting it. The kids just melt into that sea of Brown.

    I have nothing against black and brown children in and of themselves. I think many are cute…

    It is sad to see white women having kids that look nothing like them. Not like all children resemble their parents, many don’t. And some mixed race kids can at times resemble the white parent.

    • Romani

      I used to hold our women in such high regard. Yes, I know I am a hopeless romantic. Hut I am changing. I am becoming hardened to them because so many have had their minds corrupted. They cannot believe the way I do. They cannot see the world with eyes like mine. Many have betrayed their own flesh. Still, I find this such a beautiful image. . .

      • Nocturna

        Breathe deep in the gathering gloom
        Watch lights fade from every room
        Bedsitter people look back and lament
        Another day’s useless energy’s spent
        Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
        Lonely man cries for love and has none
        New mother picks up and suckles her son
        Senior citizens wish they were young
        Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
        Removes the colors from our sight
        Red is grey and yellow white
        And we decide which is right
        And which is an illusion…

        Blessed is the man who finds a good woman. She is as fine as the purest gold. They still exist but are hard to find.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

      Stats for 2010. White non-Hispanic mother- Black father: 62,726; Black mother- White non-Hispanic father: 19,237.

      Percentage: White non-H mothers- White non-H fathers 80.1%, the same with Black fathers 2.9%, with Hispanics 5.1%, “not stated” race of the father- 9.3%.

      Black non-H mothers: Black father 57.7%, White non-H 3.2%, Hispanic 2.1%, “not stated” 34.7%.

      Hispanic mother: Hispanic father 72.5%, White non-H father 9.4%, Black father 3%, “not stated” 13.5%.

      • DNA Researcher

        Stats are only for married respondants. In all likelyhood there are an equal number of non-married WF/BM pairings producing Bantu/Euro hybrids.

        The white race is by far the most easily and quickly destroyed race through miscegenation. This is because of the large number of recessive genes possessed by whites that give them their blue eyes, blonde hair, aqualine facial features and etc.

        • Concerned Canadian

          I would have to disagree on that. I believe there are many many more non-married WF/BM pairings. Not only is this on a par with the life-styles these people lead but also explains the relatively large sightings of these couples/offspring in public places.

          I knew about the DNA factors resulting from W/B miscegenation. Eye color, skin color, hair straightness, more primitive bone structures, eidened noses, protruding eye balls, and the like from the black father will dominate over the recessive genes possessed by the Euro mother. For example, black-eyed father and blue-eyed mother. Hybrid child will have black or brown eyes by 92% likelyhood.

          • DNA Researcher

            Consider the following:

            Black father, white mother, produce hybrid daughter. Daughter then mates with black and produces hybrid grand daughter. First generation; black father, white mother, ptoduces hybrid daughter. Second generation; black father, hybrid mother, produces hybrid grand daughter. Third generation; black father, hybrid grand daughter, produces hybrid great grand daughter, and so on.

            For generation 1, black father, white mother, producing hybrid child. Hybrid child will possess dominant black genes by 65% to 75%. We have an excellent example of this presented by President Obama. Looking at him, we clearly see the dominance of black genes over white genes. There is no mistaking him as a black man/hybridised African.

            Continuing on, how many generations would it take to wipe out all appearance of white ancestory produced by these pairings such that the person no longer looked white at all? Answer: about 3.5 to 4 on average.

            Now if we reverse this and examine white father, black mother, producing hybrid daughter who marries a white man and so on, how many generations would it take before a person was produced that no longer was recognisable as having any black ancestry? Answer: about 7 to 10 on average.

            The reason for all this is due to the recessive and easily dominated genes of whites by blacks. The white race is the easiest to destroy through miscegenation.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

            It’s wrong math. As long as such pairings are low, they may all remain in the black gene pool & not alter the percentage of Blacks plus mulattoes in the country. It’s Whites having fewer babies plus 3rd world immigrant invasion that matters- not that I approve of miscegenation, especially with Bantus, but it’s not that demographically significant.

          • DNA Researcher

            That wasn’t my point. The discussion was prompted by pcmustgo’s observation about mulattoes not looking like the white parent. My discussion was an explanation for this due to the recessive nature of various white genes. I am not talking about the percentage of blacks in the population but rather the effects of miscegenation on the white race. Also, as can be seen ftom the once popular TV show, “Eight is Enough,” even Asian genes have a preponderance of dominance over white genes. Kate, a white woman, gave birth to eight Asian/white hybrids. Not a single one of whom look like her but rather look like clones of the Asian father.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

            You cannot judge from such a small sample. For instance, many White-Northern Indian offspring is if not White, very close to White. In next gen they’ll be bleached completely. The same goes for White- Native American pairings. Of course- Bantus are off limits, and even White- Asian miscegenation should be kept as small as possible.

          • Kathy M

            Funny that you mentioned that. The show was called “Jon and Kate Plus 8.” Kathy Griffin did a hilarious parody of Kate with her kids looking like full-blood Asians. Check it out here…

            The patody isnt too far off either. Het husbands Asian genes completely dominated her white genes.

          • Bossman

            Not true at all. The child of a mulatto and a white person will look more white than black. Such a child might also possess what is called high-breed vigor; healthier and more fertile. The most successful blacks usually marry white women. Most successful Asians do the same thing The white race is always receiving genes from the best and brightest of the colored races.

          • David Ashton

            Not necessarily healthier, but greater fertility may be nature’s way of outpacing disharmony. There is no conclusive evidence of hybrid vigor in the human case. Unsuccessful blacks mate too often with white women.

          • Bossman

            What is true for plants and animals is also true for humans. Nature is a continuum. Darwin, from his observation made the case for the phenomenon of high-breed vigor. He wanted to raise it to a law of nature. Cross breeding varieties of a species endow the offspring with exceptional vigor in almost all cases.

          • Yusaku Matsuda

            hahaha you funny guy. No Nobel winner ever was mulatto. No great scientist, artisian, literary, or inventor ever produced with hybrid vigor. Only American president is produced. hahaha

          • Bossman

            Yes, that is true but perhaps those mulattoes were too busy playing with their big dicks to do tedious science. There’s this idea floating in science and philosophy that a truly superman would not be a scientist, poet or philosopher but rather someone out in the woods admiring his erection. As the philosopher Nietzsche put it: Those that can’t become pregnant with child become pregnant with ideas; fertility by other means.

          • David Ashton

            A few quotes rapidly retrieved from my library:

            (1) “The marked heterosis seen in agricultural plants and animals, such as hybrid corn…has no parallel in human populations…. Interracial crosses with few exceptions seem to result only in the progeny [of] merely the arithmetic additive of the parental characteristics” (A. R. Jensen).

            (2) “When two races, both low in the scale, are crossed the progeny seems to be eminently bad” (Charles Darwin).

            (3) “What about hybrid vigor in man? Now that racial intermarriage is more common than ever before, should this result in an increase in vigor? The answer is no…. Furthermore, it has not been observed. On the contrary, some of the most talented populations in the world have abstained from extensive intermarriage with those of other ethnic groups” (D. C. Rife [a leading authority on hybrids].)

            (4) “The general conclusion is that ‘hybrid populations are intermediate for metrical traits, without detectable heterosis or recombination effects’…. A situation where incompatibilities may arise is in matings between people with different proportions of the Rhesus genes [e.g. Mongolid men with Caucasian women]” (J. Z. Young).

            (5) “It is probable on inductive evidence that such marriages would not be infertile, but it is questionable whether the hybridity would necessarily be eugenesic” (J. R.Baker).

            (6) “The particular heredity factors of every race have been mutually interadapted by natural selection through countless generations, and this harmony can be disturbed by mingling…. If we continue to squander that biological mental heritage as we have been squandering it during the last few decades, it will not be many generations before we cease to be the superiors of the Mongols. Our ethnological studies must lead us, not to arrogance, but to action – to eugenics” (Fritz Lenz [1931]).

          • Bossman

            All the above quotations are very vague and does not answer the question. Every race horse has come about through cross breeding. It all depends on who is doing the assessing and judging and also on what qualities are deemed desirable. All I know is that all the colored races want to be half white. The evidence for this is all around us. Every black male wants a light-skinned woman. East Asians all want to look half white. In East Indian movies all the actors are light-skinned. Arabs want to have straight noses.

          • David Ashton

            My quotes were brief for reasons of space, and reinforced by context.
            Sexual selection (as noted by Darwin) is important in race formation, but physical appearance is only one aspect of crossing and its biological impact.

          • David Ashton

            PS. April 10. My competent sources refute the suggestion that human race crossing automatically results in enduring hybrid vigor, as claimed. Even the miscegenation enthusiast Kenneth Dyer in his huge study “Biology of Racial Integration” fails to establish this from the scant evidence available, despite some clever wording. Of course, racehorses, cattle and dog breeds are the result of careful and prolonged selection, not random mating.
            In theory a state eugenic policy could be imposed on humans to secure subspecies of high functional fitness, but it is unlikely that crossing between, for example, Congolese pygmies and Norwegian giants would be a sensible use of resources.

          • MikeofAges

            hybrid vigor

          • Bossman

            Yes, That is the correct spelling. It is easy to get confused with a word like that.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

            Wrong. 1. it’s for all people, not just married. 2. Cohabitation rate is around 3%, which is very close to the WW-BM children: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2009/05/marriage-and-cohabitation-rates-by-race.html

          • Concerned Canadian

            I am not convinced. I dont believe the stats. I believe my own eyes. Thanks.

          • Germanacus

            Wrong. We are second only to Brazil in miscegenation rates.

            http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJDA_CMY3W8&feature=related

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

            You seem to have problem with math. Here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/01/29/us/20110130mixedrace.html?ref=us&_r=0 If you read charts, you’ll see that WM marry WW at 94.7%, and WW marry WM 95.6%. Don’t make a beginner’s mistake to add figures in the 1st table- you would then get for American Indians a number greater than 1000 or 100%. BM marry WW 7.6%, which is for WW 0.7% of their marriage rate. Of course, this is for marriage. For ALL birth rates I’ve given you figures & link.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

          No, it’s for all. You can check it: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data_access/vitalstats/VitalStats_Births.htm To make a table, you must login (an easy thing).

    • David Ashton

      I know personally a case in my local area of England of a white girl married to a well-educated and likable black, who has a baby girl who could easily pass for white with rosy cheeks and European hair. This does not alter my conviction that BW miscegenation in general is undesirable.

  • jeffaral

    We need ACTION, ACTION, ACTION, not talking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

    And, by the way- enough with White women bashing. It’s annoying, you know. http://healthland.time.com/2011/02/22/love-isnt-color-blind-white-online-daters-spurn-blacks/

    • Winston Merryweather

      I bash white women and white men involved in miscegenation equally. They should be bashed. Often.

    • Manfredo Benitez

      Check this out. . .

      Getting to be more and more common. Are advertisers playing to something already there or are they trying to create the situation i.e. promoting it?

      • Winston Merryweather

        Good grief! Was S. Sailer the consultant for that commercial?

  • ricpic

    We can no longer afford to ignore this central reality [race] of human existence and wonder why our society is failing and our culture collapsing.

    Then we must talk about it openly. Publicly. In hostile surroundings. We don’t talk about it because of fear. It is perfectly true that jobs can be lost. That those with dependents risk the well being of more than themselves by speaking openly about race. I am not mocking the fear. It is there for a reason. Nevertheless the fear must be overcome. When the voices are few they can be singled out and silenced, punished. When the voices are many it is the silencers who are put on the defensive. Most vital of all is that high profile figures talk openly about race and pull no punches about the black and hispanic drain. Optimally those high profile figures should be in the political realm. But anyone with a public voice will do. A columnist, a writer, an entertainer, an academic, a blogger with a following: more and more of them must speak up. It may sound trite, but in numbers there is strength. The lone dissenter can be picked off and will be picked off indefinitely. A vocal army of dissenters will have to be reckoned with. That’s a start.

    • Winston Merryweather

      I think eventually high profile whites will talk openly about race. Right now, no way. There are just a very few. We’ve seen what happens to a Sam Francis, Derbyshire, and the like. They are immediately devoured as racists. Whites with clear vision are effectively silenced. Not allowed for consumption by the masses who live their lives in ignorance.

      • David Ashton

        Maybe the “racist” refrain will lose its impact in time, and even become counter-productive.

    • David Ashton

      Good advice. We are on sound factual, moral and rational ground. Once the ball starts rolling it will gather speed. I am beginning to sense this might be happening already.

  • PDK/Kelto-Scandic Secessionist

    In July of 2008, I realized for the good of the whites who
    choose to embrace their personal responsibility to mature, the non-liberals,
    the time had come and the need had risen for a separating out from the rest of
    the country and to begin anew an attempt at forging a culture that promotes
    liberty, wealth and the pursuit of happiness. By days end November 6th
    2012 I realized America was the proverbial dead man walking, that America’s
    Founding Fathers free enterprise Republic had finally been transmogrified into
    a new nation born of the vision of liberal ideology, a nation of egalitarian socialist
    democracy.

    White liberals were and are the main culprit; however,
    blacks are a powerful, 13%, contributor to the transmogrification of America
    via America’s fully enfranchised democracy. Further, blacks have a shorter
    neotenous, post natal, fetal growth period, which in turn produces a physically
    smaller, lower IQed cerebrum. The black lower IQ and quicker maturation process
    is ideally suited to, and tailor cut by the evolution process for, a tribal
    form of civilization. However, this form of sub-species human is not compatible
    with the white man’s higher, created and maintained, culture of civilization.
    In fact, all the blacks can do is imitate whites, trying to blend in as though
    they were the same sub-species of whites who just happen to be a different color,
    that they may parasitize both the white man’s culture and the white gene pool
    for the benefit of the black sub-species for both those alive today and their
    posterity.

    Long ago, two centuries or more, the battle between
    non-liberal whites versus white liberals, over the black problem, began. The
    non-liberal whites were prepared to let nature take its course, the white
    liberal leaders saw and seized their opportunity to actualize their God
    complexed, narcissistic, megalomaniacal, good shepherd personality. These
    mother hens of the white world embraced the policy that subsequently became
    known as the white man’s burden.

    The white man’s burden is on display in American cities such
    as Detroit and the now infamous, Birmingham, or in countries such as South
    Africa. The total ruination that materializes in the white man’s culture when
    the black race becomes the dominant population in said white man’s culture is inevitable
    whenever a tribal cerebrum attempts to run a culture of civilization. Blacks
    are so ill-equipped to govern the white man’s culture of civilization, that
    they are in fact, incapable.

    White liberals however could care less. As liberals fail to
    mature it becomes their prerogative to further themselves at the expense of
    others, including the white gene pool and our white posterity.

    All this behooves me to believe, that at this late date in
    the ruination and transmogrification process of America’s non-liberal, white,
    Founding Fathers culture of a free enterprise Republic form of civilization,
    the time has been made manifest for secession to transpire.

    A separating out and away from liberal, democrat states, and
    into non-liberal, republican states, followed by a declaration of independence,
    born of a new Constitution, which in turn outlaws all that is responsible for
    the transmogrification of America, that we may be capable of protecting
    ourselves from the same means to destroy us as has just done so.

    All members of the democratic, socialist alliance, white
    liberals, blacks, browns, Hispanics, Amerindians and all others who vote
    democrat must be outlawed. A new limited democracy to choose leadership and a
    lessening of federal government power needs be embraced.

    If not for ourselves, then for our white posterity; Godspeed
    our endeavor. Thank you.

  • http://mstrrick.wordpress.com/about/ Mstr Rick

    One can ignore reality, but one cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

  • U R racist.

    I would agree that race is a factor in many issues, and ignoring it is folly. But it is just at wrong to assume it is THE defining issue is race. This article raises agoid pint but it is clearly biased and written by a white racist. If it was as “rational and open minded” as it claims, then you could have written the same article from a non-white perspective.
    Sorry you hate brown people, and only pretend to be a free thinker.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

      In multiracial society, the defining issue is the race. The author was perfectly correct & balanced. I wouldn’t be. Need I repeat myself ? It’s good that Blacks are so high in crime & not a successful and
      “sympathetic” human subspecies re virtually everything. If they were, there could be a big chance that White phenotype would be greatly diminished through voluntary miscegenation with them.

      And I dislike that idea, because I like my White tribe. And I like it
      not only because of cultural & historical reasons (European culture
      etc.), but basically at the primitive, almost Neanderthal-type level-
      this is my in-group.

      Any racial group is a natural “in-group”, and members of
      this group want to preserve the group’s phenotype, culture, way of
      life, tastes,…. I remember when I was a youth strolling through the Vatican museums & part of the museum containing ancient Greek and Roman busts (Socrates, Pericles, Democritus, Caesar, Hadrian,..). Close to 150 busts or more. I vividly recall how I identified, spontaneously, not only famous historical figures, but also thought: hm, this guy looks like my neighbor…this one like my teacher …. hm, a local crook…

      Essentially, race is phenotype, and no one wants to see his group’s
      “looks” vanish. Looks plus something called Western civilization which can flourish & be appreciated only by going back to roots- where we encounter familiar faces from Greek & Roman busts of people who look… well, they look, more or less, like us.

      Whites, I mean.

      • Hal K

        Good points. These people who are trying to talk the white race into enabling their own extinction are demonic.

    • Hal K

      Everything is from a pro-non-white perspective in the mainstream. No one is for whites explicitly in the mainstream. Haven’t you noticed?

    • IstvanIN

      What you do not seem to realize is that we can not speak honestly in public because of race. The simple fact that blacks have the highest rates of every social pathology must not be noticed. When you notice that simple fact you are labeled racist. Nothing can be approached honestly in a multiracial society.

  • Commonsense80

    I find it quite disconcerting and depressing that I see comments all around the net from Irish who seek to join the anti-white “people of color” coalition by groveling and pronouncing their legitimacy by claiming to have been enslaved by founding whites. These fools make me absolutely sick, far more so than a non white ever could in a million years. Pols and Italians are also beginning to do the same. Anybody else notice the same?

    • Hal K

      All kinds of groups of people are looking for group victim status. I was reading up on Northern Heathenism a while back and noticed the same thing.

      If generic whites would start speaking up for their group interests then the Irish and others would return to the fold.

    • Carney3

      Count me out of that insanity. While many Irish espouse a generic leftist politics, I have not seen the specific behavior you refer to. I would say that most self-conscious Irish, such as working-class Irish in Boston, New York, or Chicago, are left-populists on economic issues but many lean right on law-and-order and national security issues, and some do as well on the culture war.

  • Edward_Teach

    Diversity tears a country apart from within. When a country is diverse the people of all races are more likely to do things to benefit themselves instead of their country. Example, muslims are raping Europe even though they have been offered a chance at a better life, they are in it for “what they can get”therefore it causes problems, some people like the muslims and some think the problems that comes with them is not worth it so now there is division.
    The muslims will put what they want first before they put the European country first now the people of that country lose their pride and respect for their leaders and are not as patriotic as they once were “why serve my country when they give it to others that don’t deserve it” at the same time the muslims have no love for the country because it’s not their mother land or their people, the country has now entered a downward slide, and the muslims could care less because after all they don’t care for the customs and cultures or the people anyway.
    You will find this in any country,state or city that has more than one race, all races for the most part will seek out others like themselves(their own race and or religion)to associate with. Multiculturalism is a failure just look at all of the problems where this failed program has been pushed, England, France,Sweden and the list goes on.These facts are the truth and I pointed them out so now you will call me a racist for calling it how I see it and if you can’t see this you are in denial for what ever reason and your children will pay the price.Diversity only works with stocks.

    • David Ashton

      You are so right about the key problem of the “multicultural society” – a contradiction in terms, and in citing England as an example. To point this out may incur the appellation “racist” but then so what? The pejorative aspect of this term is that it implies an intention to harm people because of their race. But pointing out the harm that multiracialism does to all concerned, and especially the harm it does to our own race, is a benign act.

    • SirMe

      Its the scramble for the West, to be honest the Muslims aren’t that retarded they know what they are doing, they know the West is weak and declining, so might as well take advantage of it and strip and take the wealth the West has created. They have wanted this since the 8th century. I’m not really sure about the Mexicans in the United States, they are probably are looking for a better life, but doesn’t seem to be working for them.

    • David Ashton

      Professor Roth’s book is just one of several recent scholarly books destroying the “diversity program” and supporting your argument. The intellectual resistance, at any rate, is on course at last.

  • dj2

    I can appreciate the flavor of this article but let’s be realistic. It’s also about a declining energy gradient and the collapse of an empire which has expanded beyond it’s usefulness. This may be true even if the structure was completely white. See Roman Empire, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, British Empire.

    Racial decline, multiculturalism, and massive immigration certainly doesn’t help, and in fact sort of represents a last, decadent stage.

    America could probably tolerate very limited amounts of high quality Latin American and Asian immigration. If it was strictly controlled we could get away with it for awhile.

    But we’re too stupid for that, right? We import millions of Mexicans, we import Africans, we give away free stuff year after year to American blacks. And the Jewish bankers keep laughing and the white corporate chieftains keep telling everybody nothing but blue skies ahead.

    It’s pretty lame now.

  • yo mama

    “… savages and affirmative-action parasites are sucking the lifeblood of White civilization? …”

    For a second there it sounded like the the truth and he was referring to the real root of the problem and of course this would be the X-killing “serpents” from hell you were warned to be be at least as wise as and that worked for about 1500 yrs until the founding of the west.

    Some believe these they were actually of the red yellow mongoloid Asian race as in Rothchilde translated as red children khazar muslim converts from 1000 yrs ago of Japheth, since the Romans finished off the original jew Shemites at Masada in AD74.

  • http://www.facebook.com/onyxena Morgan Love

    new to this site, very glad to see that this issue is being discussed in an intelligent realistic manner without all the BS propaganda about how diversity is so wonderful. The town I live in is nearly overrun with ignorant violent crude non-whites. Still decent areas but every place they infiltrate, they bring all their 3rd world crime and lifestyle and have zero tolerance or empathy for the people who already live their. I have never been more realistic about race til I moved here! Fortunately, I am not alone here, most whites I know feel the same and are quite open about it.

  • tarczan

    This is a very well written piece that sums up what we are facing quite well.

  • David Ashton

    Jared Taylor’s “What the Founders Really Thought about Race”, National Policy Institute, February 17, 2012, is a most valuable essay.

    Arthur Jensen’s “Educability and Group Differences” (London 1973) is also well worth reading for his definition of race (pp.130-133) and his skepticism about hybrid vigor in humans and other alleged benefits from wide out-crossing (pp.341-349).

  • http://www.facebook.com/draknats HAarlem VEnison

    To the author:

    Abandon your sentimentalism and abandon your
    national pride. Don’t appeal to such things. Else you’re merely
    eliciting emotive responses that have again and again failed to court
    the right minds, let alone achieve any sort of critical plurality. Play
    to win. Be sober-minded.

    I can’t even criticize you for being
    an ineffectual, fact-mongering poindexter; all you’re doing is
    insisting, singing to the choir.

    Isolate the problem—don’t
    confound the problem by discussing illegal immigration and socialism.
    As in physics, a problem can be remedied seamlessly simply by
    formulating it correctly and /understanding/ it. What our civilization
    is undergoing is a natural epoch, an emergent phenomenon. Once you
    meditate on it on a deep, theoretical level, and understand how it is
    meant to be solved—then you can solve it.

    That is, you need to
    look at the situation from a universal perspective, not an “I’m white
    and you’re white and we have to fight back” perspective. That is the
    initial spark which causes one to awaken to the failure of the
    hypothesis of racial equality, but it isn’t what history is waiting for.

    Yes, race is the central question, but a new discourse must first emerge before it can be re-introduced.

    • Carney3

      Your post was without content and worthless. If you have a coherent solution to offer, out with it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Hillyard/100000971153370 Mark Hillyard

    “For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” Rev 22:15
    This is a bit of the description given us to show that no liars will be allowed in the New Redeemed Israel (God divorced Israel and hence the need of Redemption. Because of this salvation came for all. But Redemption was for Israel only) coming. It’s called “Thy Kingdom come on earth..”, and it seems to be rushing to our steps.

  • Eugenia Lieu

    Maybe some of you think race is everything. But what about ethnicity in terms of racism? No one wants to admit that The Far East Chinese has a different standard with their EDAR genes that no one has through evolution. My understanding is that this gene that they possess through evolution could have took place all along as an inherited property. What this means is that whosoever possess the EDAR genetic can be more descriptive than vague. As this is one coin with two different faces.