AirAsia Captain Left Seat Before Jet Lost Control: Sources

Siva Govindasamy, Reuters, January 31, 2015

The captain of the AirAsia jet that crashed into the sea in December was out of his seat conducting an unusual procedure when his co-pilot apparently lost control, and by the time he returned it was too late to save the plane, two people familiar with the investigation said.

Details emerging of the final moments of Flight QZ8501 are likely to focus attention partly on maintenance, procedures and training, though Indonesian officials have not ruled out any cause and stress it is too early to draw firm conclusions.

The Airbus A320 jet plunged into the Java Sea while en route from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore on Dec. 28, killing all 162 people on board.

People familiar with the matter said earlier this week that investigators were examining maintenance records of one of the automated systems, the Flight Augmentation Computer (FAC), and the way the pilots reacted to any outage.

One person familiar with the matter said the captain had flown on the same plane with the intermittently faulty device days earlier. There was no independent confirmation of this.

After trying to reset this device, pilots pulled a circuit-breaker to cut its power, Bloomberg News reported on Friday.

People familiar with the matter said it was the Indonesian captain Iriyanto who took this step, rather than his less experienced French co-pilot Remy Plesel, who was flying the plane.


Captain Iriyanto


Experts say the loss of the FAC would not directly alter the trajectory of the aircraft but would remove flight envelope protection, which prevents a pilot from taking a plane beyond its safety limits, and require the crew to fly it manually.

The decision to cut off the FAC has surprised people following the investigation because the usual procedure for resetting it is to press a button on the overhead panel.


Shortly afterwards the plane went into a sharp climb from which investigators have said it stalled or lost lift.

“It appears he (the co-pilot) was surprised or startled by this,” said a person familiar with the investigation, referring to the decision to cut power to the affected computer.

Co-pilot Remy Pelsel

Co-pilot Remy Pelsel

The captain eventually resumed the controls, but a person familiar with the matter said he was not in a position to intervene immediately to recover the aircraft from its upset.

“The co-pilot pulled the plane up, and by the time the captain regained the controls it was too late,” one of the people familiar with the investigation said.


Lawyers for the family of the French co-pilot say they have filed a lawsuit against AirAsia in Paris for “endangering the lives of others” by flying the route without official authorization on that day. Investigators have said the accident was not related to the permit issue.


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  • D.B. Cooper

    Remember what I keep saying about “acceptable losses”? It does NOT matter to the Powers That Be if a large number of lives are lost, or millions of dollars of equipment is ruined.
    ALL that matters is diversity, at ANY cost.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Praise the diversity Allah.

      • D.B. Cooper

        I usually use the term “golden calf”. It makes more sense.

        • cjkcjk

          I prefer Satan because it’s even more descriptive and accurate.
          It could be argued they are the same though.

          • Nancy

            Allah and Satan? You know it, brother.

        • gemjunior

          I’m surprised your comment isn’t being removed, actually, for your reference to the “golden calf” – it might remind people about who danced around it and we can’t have that….

          • AndrewInterrupted

            There’s still time….

    • A Freespeechzone

      Don’t forget that they want to put unqualified minorities (blacks) into control towers as air traffic controllers in the USA to meet ‘diversity’ requirements…..

      These ‘diversity’ hirees have very questionable educational and emotional backgrounds……

      Just wait until these folks are directing air traffic in the sky……air travel will become riskier…

      • A couple of pissed off blacks in a control tower can do us a lot more damage than Al Qaida and ISIS combined!

        • TL2014

          They don’t need to be pissed off to do a lot of damage.

      • bilderbuster

        Air Traffic Controllers will resemble many big city 911 dispatchers.

      • LHathaway

        They’ve been doing so for 40 years . . . hello.

        • Speedy Steve

          Yes they have. Now let’s examine their record; this from last year’s Wall Street Journal;

          Africa has just 3% of global air traffic, yet manages to rack up 20% of the disasters. Maybe it’s because they let passengers bring crocodiles on board.

          • B.A_2014

            The pilot’s and air traffic controllers are clearly suffering stress due to racism and sheet.

          • silviosilver

            That link didn’t work. Can you post it again please?

          • Speedy Steve

            I couldn’t get back into the article without subscribing. Google “africa global air traffic accidents”

    • MeanWhiteBoy

      negros have lots of trouble when they have to do critical thinking. They do even worse with critical during stressful situations i.e. on a plane that is in trouble

    • Oil Can Harry

      I wouldn’t trust a black to hurl a paper airplane, let alone fly a real one.

      And of course after da brutha kills 162 people his family hits the airline with a ghetto-lottery lawsuit.

    • me

      Some jokes just write themselves.

    • RexRazor

      Diversity is our strength sayeth the social tyrants. At ALL costs DB.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    More affirmative action at work. This time it resulted in the death of 162 people.

    • D.B. Cooper

      So what? As long as AirAsia has black and Asian pilots, all if good. This plane crashed because of white racism, haven’t you learned anything yet?

      • Yeah, Asians driving cars; blacks flying planes. What could go wrong?

      • Alucard_the_last

        If you believe the Afro-centrists, you’ll find that they use to fly. I have to admit, I invented gravity to hold them down.

        • cjkcjk

          Sh!t, they were flying spaceships while us crackers were still living in caves. Ask any tenured African American studies professor if you need proof.

        • Speedy Steve

          You could always fly on Ebonic Airways with Shirley Q Liquor.
          www youtube com/watch?v=b7Lue-xOBts

        • me

          Gravity is raaaycis’!

        • Julius Caesar

          What’s the Sharpton quote…?
          Here it is. “Sharpton was quoted as saying to an audience at Kean College in 1994 that, “White folks was in caves while we was building empires…. We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”

          • Alucard_the_last

            Needless to say, the gay community was silent over this. One can say anything negative about gays and not get a rebuttal unless they one’s making the statement is white. The gay’s have nothing to say about isis throwing gay men off of cliffs.

    • Brady

      Has affirmative action spread to Asia? That’s news to me.

      • Tim_in_Indiana

        “Affirmative action” is being used as a catch-all term to mean “hiring for the purpose of political correctness.”

      • AndrewInterrupted

        They’re catching the western diversity disease. It’s already killed more people than small pox.

  • Affirmative action kills!

    • Ronald

      You may be right. As the Government more and more takes control of the once great American medical industry for the purpose of effecting social “diversity”, it seems inescapable that more and more patients will be victim of medical “mistakes” resulting from the medical personnel assigned to them. Any resistance to “the program” is likely to raise the ire of the IRS.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Public relations is more important than public safety.

  • italian guy

    I feel bad for laughing at the idea of the black guy flying the plane solo after reading the title.

  • Maybe he couldn’t say ‘Mayday’ on the mic? I heard his last words were something more like, “Damn, dis mutha-f***a be going down!”

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Co-pilot Remy Pelsel: “….Fly the plane?! I’m a f**king diversity darling. You suppose to fly and me watch…!”

      • cjkcjk

        In other words ‘I just get paid to show my face’.

  • dd121

    It took a long time to get the basic facts of the crash on the table. But now we have the a clear picture of who crashed the plane. Knowing this, it’s just not that complicated.

  • David Ashton

    What ARE these airlines thinking of? Where are the blind pilots of feminine gender with PMT and their deaf lesbian co-pilots? You’ve tried Snakes on a Plane, now try Dumb Dykes in the Henpit. The Equality Revolution isn’t over yet, you know.

    • propagandaoftruth

      What ARE these airlines thinking of?
      Lawsuits to the left, law suits to the right, into the valley of intrusive gubbamint charge the captains of industry and commerce.

      To get pooped out the flaming sphincter of best intentions. That means some must die 4 die-versity.

      I love Marxism!

    • Dindu Nuffins

      We need NFL receivers and running backs in wheel chairs. Diversity matters.

      • David Ashton

        That’ll teach Leni Riefenstahl!

  • Earl P. Holt III

    Another kill for “Affirmative-Action” and race quotas…

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Those AA admins love the taste of sausage.
      They just don’t want to see it made.

  • TomIron361

    black “pilot” – oh boy…

    • D.B. Cooper

      Shoulda got Denzel Washington. HE can fly a plane upside down, and while drunk!

      • Classic! Love it!

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        Have you watched the new Denzel Washington movie ‘The Equalizer’. In it he is a negro hero that fights against the evil White Russian and white criminals and saves a white russian girl from russian sex slave trade and his fellow workers at Home mart who are black and hispanic from the evil white man. The movie is a complete piece of filth.

        • JInSanD

          Have you seen Taken 3? Liam Neeson fights Russian mobsters in Los Angeles instead of maybe a black or Mexican gang or muslim terrorists while he’s on the run from the screwup cops. But super cool Forrest Whitaker is the police detective who’s always right there correctly anticipating Liam’s next move.

          Have you seen John Wick? Keanu Reeves fights Russian mobsters in NJ instead of a black or hispanic gang or muslim terrorists. I suppose we’re just lucky it wasn’t the mafia again.

          • Itooktheredpill

            I literally just saw both these movies the last couple days. Had the same exact thoughts. The propaganda is so obvious to anyone with half a brain. Unfortunately thats pretty rare these days.

          • Lt. Greyman, NVA

            You guys are complaining about all the “Russian are evil” references in movies? Its even harder when you are making a picture here in the USA. It is very hard to get Whites in USA to fight Russians but we must have war if White race is to be eliminated. My Rabbi told me so.

        • kenfrombayside

          Thank you. “The Equalizer” is nothing more than anti-propaganda. I glad someone else noticed.

          • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

            You’re welcome. It is made to look like the negro is a strong honorable man and the white race a degenerate criminal race that needs punishing by the negro. The Hollywood Semites do love pushing the negro is good agenda on us. They forget to mention that the Russian mafia is mostly headed by Semites. Various plots in the movie ended abruptly or had no sensible ending. A good example if how he managed to get the entire mafia into the refrigerating unit by himself. They never explained that

          • Cid Campeador

            The Black HHM “HERO HE MAN” always rescues the White woman from rape by fellow Whites.

        • TCA

          Liked him in Training Day, which has a White hero who’s righteous naivete triumphs in the end, and the one where he puts the time-bomb up the bad guy’s culo. Also liked the scene (same movie) where he interrogates the Mexican in the car.
          “No sabe?”

      • David Ashton

        With Jeff Goldblum as co-pilot he could drive us to the moon.

        • bilderbuster

          What about Will Smith?

          • LexiconD1

            He got them stuck, don’t you remember?

          • bilderbuster

            No I don’t.
            Independence Day right?
            A cutie I was dating at the time wanted to see the movie when it came out so I took her.
            I thought Smith flew a UFO.
            It was a very stupid movie and I wasn’t paying attention at all.

          • LexiconD1

            Yes, and yes. If not for an accidental bump to the ship, they would have died with the aliens.

            I saw it on July 4th. Last film I ever saw in a drive in. It was a lot of fun.

          • bilderbuster

            I had fun in spite of the movie.
            Though I do remember the theater applauding when the White House got hit by the death ray 🙂

          • David Ashton

            I stand corrected. They all jump about alike to me. (I don’t really mean that, just a joke.) God made flesh as Morgan Freeman will have already established a Base when they get there. Whoopi!

    • AndrewInterrupted

      AirAsia meets Idiocracy.

      • John Smith

        Indonesia doesn’t have affirmative action, so why did they do this unless it was a calculated risk to save money?

        • Because Obama is from Indonesia, and he was angry at how the Asian kids treated him in school. He demanded that the Indonesian people end their racist ways.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I like how the MSM has convientely made Co-pilot Remy Pelsel, a Frenchman, when in fact he is a negro.

    • Cid Campeador

      Wait. Do you have trouble seeing his striking Gallic Features?

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        LOL, through the negroid mask. YES!!!!

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Like all those “Frenchman” Islamo-freaks in Syria and Iraq.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I am sure somewhere down the line White racism will be blamed for the pilot crashing the air craft.

  • JohnEngelman

    I wonder if Remy Pelsel got his job because of affirmative action. IQ matters.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I am guessing DIE-versity did not work like the libs planned it and 162 people ended up dying including the affirmative action hire.

  • BlueSonicStreak

    Didn’t someone here say only a few weeks ago, “wait until a black crashes a plane”? Well…

  • Whitetrashgang

    Can you imagine, he was probably bagging groceries a year before and killed someone while doing that job.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Mixed the Ph+ stuff with the PH- stuff and blew up grandma.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I am surprised that the MSM did not bury this fact that a negro crashed the plane and blamed it on the Indonesian pilot. To counteract that they made the negro a frenchman to give the wrong idea.

    • Magician

      possibly because the indonesian pilot was not a white heterosexual male.

    • Yeah, but more information gets out nowadays. Damn that Internet! Seriously, if this was 25 years ago, that fact would have been buried. How about all the things that came out about Martin Luther King or Emmitt Till for that matter, recently?

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite


  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    If I see a negro flying the plane I am about to board into, I think I will turn back and take another plane.

    • John Smith

      Claim dizziness and feeling faint – it may not even be an act after seeing a primate at the controls.

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite


      • ROTFLMAO!

      • AndrewInterrupted

        “Are you guys filming a Quentin Tarantino movie, or something??”

        • Julius Caesar

          My sides are in pain after reading these comments.

    • SentryattheGate

      MY friend, when getting prepared for surgery, saw the fat, black anesthesiologist speaking Eubonics, he refused her and got one to his liking!

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        Good for him. If he did not refuse her, he would not have lived to tell the tale. What excuse did he give??? I am curious to know.

      • TL2014

        Are you serious? How did your friend manage that?

    • BulgAryan

      They’ll probably declare you an evil ray-ciss and handcuff you to the seat.

  • james AZ

    How many black pilots serve in America and canada

    • John Smith

      Still very few, but let Al and Jesse get their way. I even seem to recall some story along that line in the past few months

      • Magician

        They will gladly lower the standards just to force any colored pilot to qualify

      • RedOnTheHead

        Wasn’t Trayvon Martin anticipating a career in the aeronautics field?

        • John Smith

          I guess since they curtailed the use of chimps in the space program….

      • Will never happen. Remember, THEY fly in planes too!

        • John Smith

          Private jets.

    • I never saw one. That is why they have to go to Indonesia. These people don’t yet understand just how stupid Negroes can be.

      • throttler

        Obama should show how much he believes in his brothers by letting a black pilot fly him in Air Force One.

    • kenfrombayside

      Only 1 percent of the 71K commercial pilots are knee grows. A former U.S. Airways pilot told me to get off the plane when you see a knee grow in the cockpit.

  • james AZ

    Add. Europe and Australia……..

  • Luca

    Another tragedy while a black is in charge for just a few minutes. Now imagine a black President in charge for 8 years. (I know, sadly we don’t have to imagine).

    • John Smith

      Anything goes into a tailspin with a negro at the helm.

    • Seriously, if you or I had said that to anyone before the 1950’s, they would have thought we were joking, “A Negro president? HA HA HA, good one!”

    • SentryattheGate

      And Attorney General!

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Yes, strap in for another white knuckle ride pulling onto the runway.

  • John Smith

    It used to be you could see your pilots when you boarded, pre-GWOT, pre-TSA, now you take your chances in ignorance. It should be said, however, that flying third-world airlines is almost a guarantee of a third-world pilot.

  • Capn Dad

    I knew “Red Tails” was a bunch of liberal BS hype.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      A lot of those fliers were half breeds and octaroons.

  • ckmariner

    Now this explains a lot. Last year when I flew to the Philly airport, a pilot was black and I was nervous, not just for that flight, but for my future flights infected with inferior affirmative action black hires. I literally fly less now because of affirmative action hiring of black pilots and air traffic controllers.

    • Anglo

      Me too. I won’t fly unless really necessary.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    This story shows that affirmative action hires are not only a danger to others, but also to themsleves.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I do not think I have had negro piloting any aircrafts I have flown in. I have had negro and negresses as stewards.

  • nignogger

    I hope this would serve a lesson for other air carriers who want to hire lower IQ negroids and relax the passing flying standards/academics in order to promote Marxist racial mixing. Putting this lower IQ race of man on such complex flying machine is a joke, and 162 innocent people lost their lives for it. I hope this carrier goes bankrupt after a large judgement, then others will think twice on putting negroes in flight control positions.

    • Maximo Partagas

      A lesson, are you kidding, the liberal one-worlders will double down on affirmative action and diversity hiring. A few deaths, a few million $$ lost nothing compared to a one-world utopia.

    • We can only hope, that SOME common sense gets through and people see the obvious.

  • ckmariner

    And wasn’t it a black quarterback who made the dumb play and lost the super bowl? It has long been known that few Blacks are quarterbacks because they don’t have the intelligence for it.

    • Michael Samuel

      It was the Seattle coach to blame they had it in the bag! until the coach made the wrong call!

      • libertarian1234

        Some are claiming the quarterback called an audible and the original play was for running the ball.

        I can’t imagine a coach deciding to pass in a situation like that, but it fits right in with black thinking.

        • Charles Martel

          Nonsense! Seattle was in a 3 wideout formation. They were NOT going to run the ball from that set. It’s the coaches’ (Pete Carroll & the Offensice Coordinator’s) fault.

          • libertarian1234

            I didn’t see the game….I quit watching years ago…….so I don’t know what formation was originally set, but I still can’t imagine a coach calling a pass play.

            It seems odd the coach would have them set up in what the opposition would perceive to be a pass play telegraphing his intent.

            But I can imagine a black quarterback thinking he knows better than everybody else doing it.

            If the coach called the play then I’m inclined to believe he’s been around blacks so long he’s thinking like them. If it were the offensive coordinator I’d have to wonder if he were black.

            To blacks no sense makes sense.

            Something’s not adding up here.

          • mikey7777

            yup keep blaming the white guy

  • Rhialto

    As the original article states, the matter is still under investigation, so I think it premature to blame Diversity policy for this catastrophe. On the other hand, I have witnessed many failures in the software development business due to employing incompetent and semi-competent Diverityites, rather than fully competent White men.

  • The Indonesians never learned something that we Americans have known all along: You never let a black man fly a plane! Hell, in football, we generally don’t even let them be quarterbacks. Blacks aren’t made for that technical stuff.

  • Capn Dad

    I can just imagine it: “I bet ifn I take dis MoFo offn autopilot I can fly dis sheet!”

    • AndrewInterrupted

      “…I got diss. I got diss…”
      Like the juggling chainsaw commercial.

      • Capn Dad

        Yep that’s the way they talk…..just “ax” them!

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    This negro looks like the liberal gay blck commentator on CNN “LZ” Granderson. Without the dreads though. Must be faraway cousins.

    • Alexandra1973

      Don’t look like no Frenchman to me….

  • MekongDelta69

    Yep – book me on that flight ASAP.

    That’s always been my dream – to get on a plane where the two jockeys are muslim and black.


  • Evette Coutier

    Blacks shouldn’t be pilots. All the pretty lights on the instrument panel distract them.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Disco flashbacks.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    Maybe the fried chicken bone he was chewing on fell down and he bent down to pick it up.

    • MartelsGhost

      That grease on the fingers will make a yoke a might bit slippery……………………..

  • Tarczan

    Those situations where things are happening quickly are the real tests, like in an aircraft emergency or a QB deciding who to throw to.

  • MartelsGhost

    Well those two accompanying pics tell the whole story don’t they…………………………………I guess gravity bees raysiss and shiiiiiittt.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Hey, the next CNN sub-title!

      “Is gravity racist? Was it therefore invented by white men?”

      • MartelsGhost

        “Was water invented as a tool of death by White men? Is this the reason so many blacks drown?”…………tonight with Melissa “tampon ears” Harris-Perry.

      • Alexandra1973

        Because we sit up all night thinking of ways to oppress The Black Folk due to the color of their skin.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Diversity kills a plane-load. An average day’s body count for the cultural Marxists.

  • Alucard_the_last

    If I ever board a plane and see a negro in a pilots seat, I’ll find a reason to get off the plane. I’ve flown over 40 times and never saw a minority pilot. I know it is difficult to train for one so the only time I ever see a black is when it is an airline stewardess.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The pilots of AirAsia Bhd. Flight 8501 cut power to a critical computer system

    Don’t mess with Hal9000

    • AndrewInterrupted

      “…Did he say “always” or “never” cut power to that critical computer system?!….”

    • Speedy Steve

      Daisy Daisy you almost drive me crazy.

  • Cornelius Croid

    Looky dose foos!!!! I aint gettin inna plane if I bees nowin dat a mutant monkey anna negro bees drivin dat muddafuqqa. I allais look into da cockpit afore I leaves da ground …….. nomesane

    • Capn Dad

      Dat beez racis n sheet!

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yee-uh. Aight.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    “…Did he say “always” or “never” cut power to that critical computer system?!…”

  • RacialRay

    I am suddenly put in mind of poor, doomed Albert, the space monkey, who also met an untimely end some distance off the ground decades back. Perhaps we should add “piloting air vehicles” to the ever-growing list of Things Black People Don’t Do Well.

  • Anglo

    He’s Black. He’s not French.

  • OK, I have to say it:

    “I be’s flyin’ dis ting now, gnome sayin’? Step aside, cause I be representin’! I gots game, dawg! You best recognize!”.

    • Alexandra1973

      Or swim.

  • LHathaway

    To view this a bit more objectively . . . White men have crashed a lot more planes. That’s what I’m saying.

    • Like US Airways Flight 1549, in which nobody other some FOD geese died?

      Dey gots ta be haben some “respeck”, gnome sayin’?

    • libertarian1234

      “White men have crashed a lot more planes.”

      Well, I agree with that.

      But I’m wondering if any white pilots ever lost control of a plane while it was cruising and wasn’t able to keep it from diving.

      I know a few years ago blacks in South Africa were being given training to be pilots by white instructors. One of them who was described as a repeat failure trainee forgot to drop his wheels before landing and crashed. Another had problems in the air and had to eject his fighter aircraft, but didn’t hit the canopy release before he ejected. I’m not sure, but I think he wound up as a black spot on the inner roof of his canopy. Another failed his tests several times, but because of PC he was allowed to keep trying. He was killed when his plane crashed.

      The black defense minister said the incidents were due to racism.

      • Nimadan

        About ten years ago, the first black submarine skipper in the
        South African Navy steered his boat right into the seabed.

  • Speedy Steve

    Black co-pilot was left flying the plane.

    Surely you can’t be serious. Enough said, and stop calling me Shirley. www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=RrZlWw8Di10

  • Reverend Bacon

    So this poor guy was executed for “Flying While Black.” And he took 161 others with him.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Same is true when making the defense product. One of the few actual Americans left working at a defense contractor walks out of those places every day wondering whose side those people are on. Not the American side, certainly.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    The MUGgers (minority underlying government) do their dirtiest work there.

  • Paul Franken

    I don’t think the race of the co-pilot had anything to do with this tragedy. Seeing that Air Asia is a Malaysian based airline, my thoughts are this flight was in trouble from the start. Let’s see: one Malaysian airliner has disappeared, one has been shot down, this one was having very strange problems with its flight control computer.

    I’m thinking Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission. Madmen are in charge.

  • KenelmDigby

    Honestly, I would have thought that an Asian airline would never ever had employed a black man as a pilot, no matter what the black man’s qualifications and experience were.
    I always thought that Asians were very astute and unabashed about this sort of thing.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      They probably came under recent pressure by the multi-culti demons to dumb down their workforce. No one will be allowed to escape the cultural Marxist grip.

    • Nimadan

      The globalists are putting heavy pressure on local Asian elites to get on board
      with the agenda if they want to reap the profits of globalization. Worldwide racial integration is one of the major planks of the globalist agenda along with gay rights, population control, and state control of child-raising.

      There are now something like a half-million black Africans in China. The resulting mutts, so-called “Blasians”, are being celebrated in the mass media in several Asian countries. I hear different things about the status of blacks in Japan but there IS beginning to be a phenomenon of Japanese women deliberately seeking out-of-wedlock children with White fathers. While this may please White male egos, it is at the same time a symptom of profound social decay.

      If you don’t believe me, search “gaijin hunters” and “white blindness”

    • What if they receive a lot of training? These pix are from an airport in Africa & here they’re getting experience with commercial aircraft.

      Goma Airport in the Democratic Republic of Congo
      Photojournalist Michael Christopher Brown

  • Alexandra1973

    My son loves that video and will do a search on YouTube for it.

    • Magician

      IQ higher than 100 – only crosses the street when it is safe to do so

      IQ 90~99 – crosses the street when it is not safe to do so

      IQ 80-89 – dances his way across the street when it is not safe to do so

      IQ lower than 70 – dances his way across the street backwards when it is not safe to do so

      • AndrewInterrupted

        That is actually part of an insurance fraud trend. The white guy in Detroit who was disabled after being beaten by a black mob, after hitting a kid–the kid intentionally darted out into the road, as a store camera revealed.

        IQ lower than 60 – dances his way across the street backwards when it is not safe to do so, when trying to get an insurance settlement.

  • How great would it be if their case was “you let an incompetent negro pretend it was intelligent enough to be a pilot, and this negligence caused his wrongful death.”

  • Black gunners on a B-52 shouldn’t cause any problems. If anything it’d teach commercial aircraft & everyone else to stay away from the B-52’s.

  • Epiminondas

    Once flew in a prop plane in the Bahamas piloted by TWO blacks. I was never more relieved to have arrived safely in my life. Never going to let that happen again.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Two black pilots = white knuckle ride.

    • Bill Brady

      I had a chance to fly on a plane in Jamaica.

      I passed at the opportunity and took the bus instead.

      Feels good to still be alive…

  • mikey7777

    Wow, I love ,just love how this whole article just dances and dances to make the co-pilot have absolutely,unequivocally any fault at all.Since he is black and not really French I am not surprised.

  • Giovanni704

    I’m reminded of a frightening podcast done by Richard Spencer and a PhD scholar that exposes how even prestigious medical schools like Harvard are drastically lowering standards so minorities can get degrees. I’d post the link if I could find it….

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I have to blame France for letting this negro’s parents immigrate from Africa to France and then let him go to flying school. Thanks to that162 people ar dead. Shame on you France for bowing down to your semite bosses and trying to be all multiculti and enforce DIE-versity

  • Bill Brady

    Flying while black.

    Too bad there wasn’t a white cop around to pull him over and protect the passengers…

    • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

      He would say that is racist.

  • Big Blue 11

    Remy “What are all these little round dials and switches all over the place fo” OoLawdy Capin MayDay MayDay

  • Manxman3

    How many black faces are there in professions which are not so likely to enforce discrimination in favour of blacks (affirmative action) because they require extremely high intelligence due to financial or safety reasons? Industries such as space science, computer science or management of huge investment funds?

  • Richard Roelofsen

    I don’t see the relevance in this tragic incident being used to show what? Black incompetence? Indonesian incompetence? South Asian incompetence? I can give you a list of numerous incidents where pilots made blunders and errors that were far more serious than this. The Tenerife airport disaster is the deadliest accident in the history of aviation. It was caused by the arrogance a senior captain KLM who took off without getting clearance. That little incident caused the death of 583 people.
    Or how about Flight 447 Air France crash in the Atlantic Ocean. The pilots made numerous blunders with a brand new A330, causing it to stall and then crash. I wonder if amren reported this incident which occurred not so long ago (summer of 2009).

    I believe amren is valuable and I especially like the analysis, book reviews and other contributions from the amren staff, however these type of articles (including the comments from people who have no knowledge of, in this case, the aviation industry) seem not too valuable.

    I have worked with numerous airliners throughout my career and can say that some of the whitest were the worst (Eastern European), whereas some of the black flag carriers were very impressive (Kenya Airways and especially Ethiopian Airlines). I’ve had plenty of discussions with aviation industry experts from Boeing, ICAO, NTSB, FAA, OAG and others about Ethiopian Airlines and the airline industry in emerging countries in general. This flag carrier is about to become the biggest in Africa (overtaking ‘white’ South African Airways), it has it’s own pilot school and aviation maintenance school (which trains not only Ethiopian pilots and technicians, but also foreigners and is FAA accredited), a young and expanding fleet, it has joined Star Alliance, and it makes a healthy profit. More than six million passengers fly Ethiopian annually and that number is growing. If I were to travel to the Middle East from Europe, I would prefer Ethiopian Airlines with it’s Ethiopian (and thus black pilots) anytime over Aeroflop, or many other Eastern European airliners with their white pilots.

    • IstvanIN

      You make valid and excellent points. Please remember, however, random examples of black competence or random examples of White incompetence do not negate the simple fact that black societies are far more likely to be failed societies than White societies.

      • 4321realist


    • 4321realist

      What this story tells us mostly is that this is very likely a case of an airline hiring an unqualified black due to political correctness. None of the remarks state or imply that there are not white mishaps, but that has no bearing on rampant black incompetence.

      Also pointing out that you know of cases where blacks aren’t incompetent doesn’t negate the fact that blacks are put in positions due to black privilege and the results, more often than not, amount to a disaster. Nor does it mean your examples are not exceptions….which they certainly are.

      And examples of black incompetence occur so often I don’t think it’s out of line for people to react with disdain over this incident and be hypercritical.

      • Richard Roelofsen

        ‘What this story tells us mostly is that this is very likely a case of an
        airline hiring an unqualified black due to political correctness.’

        Political correctness? How do you get that idea? Where in the story does it indicate that this copilot was accepted due to political correctness? Remember we are talking about Malaysia here not the US. If it were an American airliner I would have understood and shared your assumption, but in a semi third world country in South East Asia where there are hardly any blacks, they don’t have to show any leniency to this group fearing they would cry racism and send some Sharpton type of leech threatening them with a boycott.
        The reason he was accepted was most likely due to the economic growth of countries like Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia and others in that region, which has resulted in a rise in demand of cheap airline flights. Asia is currently one of the fastest growing regions in the aviation industry. These budget airliners have a shortage of pilots and will take on any pilot from anywhere in the world, regardless of experience. That is why an inexperienced black pilot from France is co-pilot on a Malaysian flight. And don’t forget that the Indonesian pilot probably made an error too (we’ll have to wait for the final report of the Indonesian investigative board). Strangely enough there is little mentioning of this Indonesian incompetence.

    • guest

      “If I were to travel to the Middle East from Europe, I would prefer Ethiopian Airlines with it’s Ethiopian (and thus black pilots) anytime over Aeroflop, or many other Eastern European airliners with their white pilots.”
      I don’t believe a word of what you’re saying, especially about Eastern European pilots, since those countries you’re referring to have a proven historical track record of turning out excellent pilots in both war time and peace.
      And if your black airlines are excellent, it’s a first for any of the countries they represent to be excellent in anything, because they give example after example of sub-standard proficiency in anything they do of an intellectual nature.
      In checking your past posts I find there are none. This is the only post you’ve made under the above name, which indicates you’re probably a troll whose purpose is to do as leftists always do which is to inanely promote all things black by citing false examples or making invalid claims.
      It is delusional people like you who promote all things black and all things of a rabid leftist nature who will lie, steal and obfuscate anything you deem will promote your idea of a rainbow utopia, although, to a man, you’re all dangerous and detrimental to any nation you occupy.

      • Richard Roelofsen

        Mr. guest, you don’t have to take my word for it as I could care less. How about the officials from the FAA, Boeing, OAG and pilots and technicians from other airlines. All of these aviation experts were very positive about Ethiopian Airlines on numerous and separate occasions. Should we have trust in their expertise or some anonymous individual who has not shown to have any knowledge about the airline industry whatsoever.
        If you want to believe that I’m a troll then that is up to you. I do not consider myself a ‘white nationalist’, but a Dutch Nationalist. I don’t believe a Romanian should become a Dutch citizen anymore than a Moroccan should. And if that makes me a leftist in your confined view than so be it. The irony of people like you calling me delusional and dangerous while we have dozens of commentators here on this site, openly calling for either ethnic cleansing, violence, or a separate ‘homeland’ for whites in North America can not be understated. Good luck with that.

        • BlueSonicStreak

          I would agree with you about violence and ethnic cleansing; but you must be suppressing some intense cognitive dissonance to have the hypocrisy to scorn a white homeland in North America while simultaneously calling yourself a Dutch Nationalist.

  • Speedy Steve

    I heard the plane was climbing at 6000 feet per minute.

  • Alucard_the_last

    You are the source of stupidity.

  • MooTieFighter

    AirAsia uses quota’s too? Destroying civilizations and lives everywhere.

  • 4321realist

    You’re right, but the leftist dregs would NEVER agree to that. They want to create the impression that there’s no difference in anybody including the sexes as part of their sick delusional idea that everybody is the same. They bend to the whims of almost every flaky, kooky, oddball group in the country even though they know full well what they’re doing is wrong-headed and silly.

    Also putting homosexuals in barracks with normal men who they shower and sleep with and who they find sexually attractive is another sick scheme. Isn’t it strange they don’t apply the same standards to everybody and still mandate that men and women do not shower together and sleep in the same area?

    Feminists and homosexuals are mentally disturbed people who should be on the outer margins of society, because they deteriorate our culture in almost every way.

    You can bet Russia, Iran, North Korea, or China doesn’t follow the same silly policies. And it is Russia and China that will dominate the world as we get further into the 21st Century.

    The US has been the 800 pound gorilla militarily compared to other countries up till now.. But the others are catching up now…… VERY FAST…….. so let’s see what transpires with the new politically correct military from this point forward.

    • Isn’t it strange they don’t apply the same standards to everybody and still mandate that men and women do not shower together and sleep in the same area?

      Obviously you’ve never heard of World War T.

      • 4321realist

        I’ve heard of it o.k., but I regard them as an “it,” not a he or she.

        To me they’re no more than cardboard cut-outs to be ignored.

        According to latest CDC figures, homosexuals are 1.6% of the population, and since T’s are even fewer there can’t be many of them.

        It is the media as usual that promotes their agenda making it appear as if they’re in the majority and we’re bystanders whose opinion on anything doesn’t count.

    • You wrote:

      Isn’t it strange they don’t apply the same standards to everybody and still mandate that men and women do not shower together and sleep in the same area?

      I respond:

      Haven’t you ever heard of World War T?

  • BlueSonicStreak

    Gee, wonder why!

    Don’t many, many female soldiers bluntly admit from personal experience that women aren’t physically capable of many combat positions? Isn’t it true that only a small fraction of surveyed female soldiers even want combat roles?

    Who is pushing for this?

    • Butch lesbians. That was the driving energy behind the repeal of DADT. Other than the Navy, which has a lot of gay men, homosexuality and military service is a way bigger deal to butch lesbian women.

      • Richard Roelofsen

        Don’t ask don’t tell was an excellent policy that most people in and out the US military could live with. What a shame that this homosexual agenda is being propagated around the world with such determination. I’m ashamed that my country (The Netherlands) was the first in the world to have gay marriage. Virtually all parties (including Geert Wilders’ Freedom Party) support this and even believe we have some moral responsibility to promote this agenda around the globe since we were the first ‘Pioneers’ in this race to the bottom (no pun intended). Accepting homosexuality as normal is a sign of moral decadence and vulgarity taking over a nation.

  • 4321realist

    That’s the same post you made above.

    And it’s no more believable than it was the first time.

    Incidentally, on the above post I noticed you gave yourself 8 “up” votes., but the one down here only one.

    Did you like it less the second time around?


    • Richard Roelofsen

      No actually I decided to make a disqus account, whereas this post was made just using my email (you can ask the moderator if you wish). If it’s not believable you should try and refute my reply to your comment, which made very little sense (assuming Malaysian airliners have a PC policy towards blacks that is). Good luck with that.