Churchill on Islam

Churchill Centre, January 14, 2015

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property either as a child, a wife, or a concubine must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

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  • MekongDelta69

    From Churchill to Londonistan.

    ‘Nuff said…

    • See The Future

      All reference to London in the new name will be gone. Everything dear to the whites that built London will be destroyed.

  • Churchill also participated in the last cavalry attack by the British army, at Omdurman in 1898. He was still nursing an earlier shoulder wound at the time, so he used a Mauser C-96 “Broomhandle” pistol.

    One of my other favorite Churchill quotes was in this exchange at a party.

    Woman socialite attendee: “Sir, you are drunk!”

    Winston Churchill: “Yes, ma’am, and you are ugly, but in the morning I shall be sober.”

    Got most of his books here.

    • The Dude

      Mean, but epic.

  • Pro-Apartheid

    Churchill one of the British mafia, elitist capitalists only looking out for their fellow gang.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Wonderful man. A true hero.

      • Pro-Apartheid

        Did you vote for Mitt Romney?

        • See The Future

          I am not aware of a single politician in the USA that can lead us out of this mess.

    • propagandaoftruth

      Well he certainly was “racist” it appears!

    • Canadian Friend

      I do not understand your comment…”British mafia”…”looking out for fellow gang”…is this a joke? what am I missing here??

  • LeonNJ

    Someone send this to CAIR as a belated holiday gift.

  • John

    Churchill was conflicted I believe. He also wrote about the perils of Zionism in the 1920s and penned a piece about the Jewish nature and personnel of the “Russian Revolution”. Jewish money men bailed him out of a near bankruptcy situation in the 30s and from then on, they owned him lock, stock and liquor cabinet. Small wonder he completely ignored all the peace overtures made by Hitler, even before war broke out.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Yes too much money does seem to corrupt most whites,I wonder why?To me its just sick.

      • Sick of it

        Money is not more important than the survival of one’s race, let alone one’s own descendants. Picture these men cutting the throats of white children. Or perhaps, more realistically, firebombing them.

        • See The Future

          They will rape the white children.

      • John

        By the same token, too much truth around here seems to sicken some mods seeing as how my OP was arbitrarily removed. Since it dealt specifically with Churchill and his decided shortcomings as well as his widely known problem with the bottle, I wonder what the problem was? Could it be I dared mention that he was a bought and paid for sock puppet for the Jews after they paid off his debts and saved him from bankruptcy? Or could it be mentioned the horrible truth that the Russians had very little to do with the “Russian Revolution”? It was, in fact, a kosher certified op from the get go. Just wondering.

    • robinbishop34

      Bingo.

    • David Ashton

      A truly tragic figure, as in another way so was Hitler. Someone could write a Shakespearean-style drama about them both. If only Hitler had not refused to meet him when he had the opportunity in Germany.

      Martin Gilbert’s “Churchill and the Jews”, David Irving’s “Churchill’s War, Vol.1” and Patrick Buchanan’s “Churchill, Hitler & the Unnecessary War” should be read together.

      To his credit, Churchill opposed colored immigration and even suggested that “Keep Britain White” might be a vote-winning slogan for the Conservatives, but his policy, which lost the Empire he originally defended, brought “anti-racism” in tow with all its consequences.

      • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

        In his generation, opposing non-White immigration was the view held by most Whites. Only a Gentile hating tribe member would have favored welcoming the Negroid and Islamic masses to Merry Ole’ England.

        • David Ashton

          Sir Frank Soskice, Gerald Nabarro, Alfred Sherman, Harold Soref, most taxi-cab drivers of tribal stock….

      • John

        I’ve read Buchanan of the 3 you mention. But only as far the point where he started in with the obligatory “Hitler was evil yada, yada..”. Pat knows better. Surely he knows what Patton said about WWII. We were allied with the wrong people and should have been fighting with the Germans against the Soviets. Back when he wrote the book, Mr. Buchanan still had his network job so I understand he was just throwing a bone to the PTB.

        • David Ashton

          Read further on, and get a pleasanter surprise.

    • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

      Churchill was honest about the threats posed to White Christian nations, as was the norm in his generation. He saw that both Judaism and Islam cause great harm to Western lands when large numbers of residents continue to practice both religions in White Christian lands. Churchill could obviously see that Jewish usurious banking and business practices, where Jewish business owners overcharged their customers purposely, and banks were charging usurious interest rates, were largely fueled by a Jewish hatred of Gentiles. An attitude that Gentiles were Goyim, a Yiddish term of disparagement and denigration translating, literally, to “cattle”. Churchill knew that this on-going hatred for, and abuse of, Gentiles was why the German people voted Hitler into office. He knew that hatred for Jews ran deep all throughout Central Europe, and knew that, without the centuries of hatred that had developed between Jews and Gentiles in Europe’s core, Hitler would never have won the trust of the German people, and never would have become Germany’s Fuhrer. He understood that, while not all Ashkenazi Jews hated Gentiles, and many Jewish families in Germany had converted to Christianity, that Judaism is opposed to Christianity.

      • John

        If you’re interested in a much deeper and more accurate analysis of why Hitler came to power and the dynamics of post WWI Germany, I suggest “Hitler’s Revolution” by Richard Tedor. 300 pages. Kindle edition only $8. 5 star reviews. Good book. “The Bad War” by Mike King is also recommended. Available on the Tomato Bubble’s website, PDF version. Inexpensive and worth every penny. As far as the popular explanations of European antisemitism go, the PTB would have us believing, at least until recently, that it all began and ended in Germany. Germany was at the tail end of a long line of such beliefs that was more or less justified by the Jews rampant, avaricious behavior everywhere they went. When the Jews were kicked out of England in 1290 by royal decree for example, the richest man in England was a Jew money lender. His wealth made the King look like a street beggar.

        • David Ashton

          Proudhon possibly the non-German “worst offender”. Hitler’s admirer Chamberlain attacked anti-Semites, and Gobineau praised the Hebrews, but who lets a bit of primary research get in the way?

          “You cannot understand National Socialism without Wagner” (Hitler).

        • Jacobite2

          They weren’t allowed to return until the Deputy Devil, Cromwell, took a huge bribe, in 1655.

          • John

            It wasn’t a “bribe”, it was an “agreement” (sarc/) that he made with a Dutch Jew financier in order to fund his revolution. The only interest due on the loan being that they were admitted re-entry if Cromwell won and of course, the King’s head.

          • Jacobite2

            Although my Irish ancestors had plenty of reasons to hate Cromwell (and do, and always will), I admit he might have screwed the English even worse.

      • David Ashton

        “Goyim” literally means (other) “nations”. Some Jewish sectarians have held that Gentiles are not fully human, but that wasn’t the view of German Jews as a whole. Hitler’s votes were mainly related to the economic situation of Germany. His linkage between finance and communism was previously expressed by the Anarchist Bakunin, the Tory Disraeli and the Zionist Herzl.

  • dd121

    Here’s Churchill’s common sense evaluation of who Moslems are. Where did common sense go these days?

    • Sick of it

      Notice that even back then he was praising certain muslims? Americans were 100% anti-muslim.

      • dd121

        I frankly don’t know how Churchill survived the complete fiasco he engineered at Gallpoli that got thousands of Englishmen killed. It wasn’t a big recommendation for his future leadership.

        • He did lose his slot at the Admiralty over that, and went to the Western Front in the army.

          • dd121

            Do you know the story of how he got rehabilitated politically?

      • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

        He was speaking of the errant individual while accurately portraying the Muslim cultures as the cess pools that they are. Islam is not a race. Bosnian Muslims are mostly non-practicing, peaceful, and hard working. This is the result of their Slavic European genes. Reflecting on what Churchill pointed out, though, Bosnians have not been enhanced by Islam. Without Islam, Bosnia could resemble Croatia or even Slovenia. The pent-up rage which spilled over in the late nineties Serbian genocide against the Bosnians was sparked by a long history of Islamic abuse of Christian South Slavs dating back to the Ottoman Empire. Without the evil of Islam, Slobodan Milosevic would never have become a household name.

        • David Ashton

          There is an ethnic basis to Sufism compared to Sunni Islam.

    • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

      His evaluation was pointed, incisive, and squarely on the money. He accurately describes the attitude towards life and hard work that Islam inculcates. He also accurately points out that Islam does not improve anyone, that peaceful and intelligent Muslims are not so due to Islam, but have managed to be so against the odds. They must go against the grain of a culture that encourages violence and sloth over hard work and a desire for peace.

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    I believe it was Churchill who, at a party, was drinking and seated next to a woman who said to him “Sir, if I was your wife I’d put poison in your drink”, to which he replied “Madam, if I was your husband I’d drink it”.

    • See The Future

      Great one!

    • David Ashton

      Lady Astor?

      The other one was Bessie Braddock, a fat and hideous Old Left battle-axe.

  • See The Future

    Just listened to Cameron on the news. He talked about removing encryption from texting software. He is going to take bold steps to protect the public. What an absolute imbecile. He has facilitated the setting and lighting the fuse of the powder keg. It is only to wait for it to blow up in his face.

  • Anon Emus

    Does this post?

  • IstvanIN

    Not much has changed since 1899.

    • David Ashton

      Except Europe, the USA and Southern Africa!

  • Anon Emus

    LONDON — British leader Winston Churchill was once begged to not convert to Islam, a recently unearthed family letter shows. The letter appears to disprove claims the iconic World War II leader was anti-Islam, according to the academic who found the correspondence.

    “Please don’t become converted to Islam; I have noticed in your disposition a tendency to orientalism,” wrote Lady Gwendeline Bertie in a letter dated Aug. 27, 1907, according to A. Warren Dockter, a research fellow at Cambridge University. “So if you come in contact with Islam, your conversion might be effected with greater ease than you might have supposed,” added the woman who would become the future prime minister’s sister-in-law.

    Dockter found the letter in the Churchill Archives Center in Cambridge and told NBC News that “most amateur histories and people with a political ax to grind” cite a Churchill quote about the dreadful nature of “Mohammedanism.” But that quote was made in the context of a fundamentalist Islamic revolt in Sudan that was violently suppressed by the British and should not be interpreted as a reflection of Churchill’s view on the entire religion, Dockter explained.

    Churchill, who set up the Middle East Department in the Colonial Office of the British empire, had a lifelong interest in Islamic culture, according to Dockter, author of the upcoming book “Winston Churchill and the Islamic World: Orientalism, Empire and Diplomacy in the Middle East.” He added: “Churchill had Muslim friends, he liked Muslims, but did that mean he was always pro-Islam? Of course not.” NBC NEWS

    • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

      Just because Churchill was interested in Islamic cultures didn’t mean that he missed the big picture with Islam. Religion is learned behavior. Arab Christians have come to America for generations. They behave as other Whites, working hard and living in peace. Many German Jews, during the 1800’s, converted to Christianity becsuse they loved Germany, and didn’t view their Gentile neighbors as Goyim. Pure blooded Arabs and Ashkenazim are racially Caucasian. Fervor and fanaticism may indeed be Arabic/Semitic genetic traits, but they are not a problem when that fervor is channeled into loving Jesus and living a Christian life instead of into doing everything possible to oppose Christian values and cultures.

      • David Ashton

        Hitler, Mosley and Carlyle had a few good things to say about Islam and its Founder, but so what? The main problems are in the texts of the Koran and Hadith, the decree of death for apostasy, the notion of the House of Submission v the House of War, and the quasi-Islamic suicide-bombing “to Paradise in the Way of Allah”. The Prince of Wales is interested in Sufi mysticism and architecture, but has repeatedly condemned the persecution of Christians and others in Muslim states.

        There were two mistakes, not just one or other: (1) Admission into the West of massive numbers of Muslim settlers with high birth-rates and sharia commitments, and (2) the inflammation of Muslim sentiment against the West because of neo-con actions over Israel, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, &c.

    • Anna Tree

      It’s propaganda/whitewashing, like the story of A. Lincoln having a relation with a slave: it’s false and libel. Personally, reading the article, I find the tone to be teasing Churchill, the lady knew he wouldn’t convert, he hated islam, she just was having fun.

  • Canadian Friend

    No wonder one of the first things Obama did when he moved in the white house was send back Churchill’s bust back to England…because Obama sides with Muslims if he is not one himself and he feels insulted by the truths Churchill has said about Islam.

  • Jacobite2

    If you want to understand Weimar Culture, imagine being a believing Christian (if you aren’t already) and being strapped in a chair watching MSNBC and HBO 24/7. Weimar was an all-out attack on German culture, Christianity, morality, language, and anything else that could be imagined. A lot like pop culture in the US today. But ‘they’ learned a lesson. In 1920s Germany, 90%-plus were ethnic Germans. Today in the US, we’re down to 2/3 American.

  • David Ashton

    There are fairly objective specialist studies of Nazi support from the 1920s to to the war years. But I take your point. Germany was indeed directly threatened again by communist revolutionary plans, the techniques spelled out in Comintern handbooks. Hitler’s focus on the single enemy alienated many Germans, but his eloquence was nevertheless pretty effective. He was a risk which looked good at first, and was worth taking, as the economic fortunes improved. It all went badly wrong in 1938.

  • David Ashton

    Agree on war veterans – e.g. the few RC priests who were keen NS supporters had been padres.

    Hitler sacrificed sympathy overseas after the Czech crisis and the Broken Glass, and thus reinforced the war-agitation in the USA and UK. A more adroit policy in Russia might have won the war in the East.

  • Transpower

    None of the current world leaders compare with Churchill!

  • Anna Tree

    Don’t fall for their propaganda, it’s similar to the story of A. Lincoln having a relation with a slave: it’s false and libel.
    Reading the article, I find the tone to be teasing Churchill, no way he could convert, he hated islam and his family knew it.

  • Jim

    In 1970 President Nasser of Egypt died. Millions gathered in the streets of Cairo to mourn. Almost no women there wore the head dress. To do so would mark them as a backward country hick. The same was true then for women in Beirut, Teheran, and Istanbul.

    Nowadays most middle eastern women are covered and these societies are regressing to fundamental Islam because they have been oppressed by Shahs, generals and dictators of various kinds. Churchill was correct in his assessment of its backwardness.

    Now how do we influence over a billion people on this globe away from violence? Will we become like Israel with perpetual war and even more tightening of security? Want to have cops on every corner asking for your ID and searching your stuff?