Harvard and UNC Sued over Their Admission Policies

Philip Marcelo, AP, November 17, 2014

Lawsuits filed Monday against Harvard University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill argue that affirmative action policies should be banned at colleges across the nation.

The federal suits allege Harvard and UNC rely on race-based affirmative action policies that impact admissions of high-achieving white and Asian American students. The Harvard lawsuit also contends that the Ivy League university specifically limits the number of Asian Americans it admits each year.

The Project on Fair Representation, an Alexandria, Virginia-based legal defense fund, said Monday’s filings will be the first in a series of legal challenges against colleges across the country in an effort to ban race-based admission policies outright.

“Allowing this issue to be litigated in case after case will only perpetuate the hostilities that proper consideration of race is designed to avoid,” state the lawsuits, both of which cite “Students for Fair Admissions” as plaintiff, a nonprofit group based in Austin, Texas made up of recently rejected applicants, prospective students and parents. “Racial preferences are a dangerous tool and may only be used as a last resort.”

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“Statistical evidence reveals that Harvard uses ‘holistic’ admissions to disguise the fact that it holds Asian Americans to a far higher standard than other students and essentially forces them to compete against each other for admission,” the lawsuit argues.

The lawsuit goes on to allege that Harvard is engaging in “racial balancing,” enrolling the “essentially the same percentage” of African Americans, Hispanics, whites, and Asian Americans year after year, even though the application rates and qualifications for each racial group have undergone significant changes over time.

“Harvard’s remarkably stable admissions and enrollment figures over time are the deliberate result of system wide intentional racial discrimination designed to achieve a predetermined racial balance of its student body,” the lawsuit states.

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Elite schools should also stop giving preference to so-called “legacy” students and offering early admission deadlines, both of which tend to hurt low income and minority applicants and favor wealthy and white ones, the lawsuits suggests.

The Project on Fair Representation is affiliated with Project Liberty Inc., a nonprofit organization focused on “free market and liberty oriented solutions to society’s most pervasive and radial needs,” according to its IRS filings.

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  • Lion’s Mane

    Our elites insist that there exists absolute race equality. Therefore, they must live by that principle. It really is vital that policies which discriminate against those who really are proven high achievers be abolished. I wish this campaign great success.

    • Max

      They needn’t live according to the principles they promote to the unwashen masses. These leaders are facilitators; idea men. The owner of the vineyard does not tread the grapes.

      • Lion’s Mane

        But this can change fast in revolutionary times — as practiced and advocated by Thomas Jefferson and the American Founders, no less.

        • The Worlds Scapegoat

          If whites brought the same thing to the table, they would be taken out back and beaten with a metal pipe. Asians only care about themselves: They did not mention white in their lawsuit. Whites are the only group of people who are stupid enough to put others ahead of themselves.

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          • Whitesneedtobebrave

            I agree and worry about other races welfare and also paying for those women not to abort their babies but encouraging them to have them because abortion is murder. What these Christians do not understand is that those black babies that are not aborted will grow up to commit crimes and also be a liability. They may even kill someone who is near or dear to the very white people who saved them from abortion.

          • Alucard_the_last

            Negresses should get free abortions. Even a small bonus would save the taxpayers millions in welfare and prison costs.

          • Whitesneedtobebrave

            Add to that list white trash women that become mudsharks by sleeping with negro men and having mulattoes that are worse than full blooded Negros.

          • Alucard_the_last

            You are correct. I have noticed that the majority of white women who go out with simians are too fat and ugly for the human race. They are guilty of bestiality and should be charged with a crime and forced to get abortions.

          • LexiconD1

            Especially, Stanley Ann Dunham, may she rot in hell…

          • Lion’s Mane

            The very least that could be done is mandatory tubectomy for would-be welfare mothers.

          • Au contraire, as you’ll note in my quote here, they most certainly did mention whites … negatively.

            “both of which tend to hurt low income and minority applicants and favor wealthy and white ones, the lawsuits suggests.”

            This is pro-asian, not anti-affirmative action. They just want a bigger slice of the pie.

          • Alucard_the_last

            And stupid enough to keeping the negro alive. No one else is shipping money, medicine and food to Africa. Kick all blacks off of welfare and they’d rather starve than to look for work.

      • me

        You mean, where the grapes of wrath are stored?

        • Max

          I like that thought but have low expectations.

    • APaige

      This might actually expose me as a hypocrite, but I have no problem with a PRIVATE school deciding who they want to admit. It would be foolish to not except the best, but their choice. As for a PUBLIC school, race should not be allowed in any case.

      • Anglokraut

        Schools would just find another way to discriminate against Whites, with more and more peculiarly-phrased qualifications: special consideration for teenaged mothers/fathers, special consideration for applicants of atypical citizenship (illegal aliens), special consideration for adherents to non-Christian Abrahamic religions…

        • LexiconD1

          We did that in CA. We were the first to outlaw AA for college enrollments at our public schools, they just found ‘OTHER’ avenues to award extra points etc to ‘minority’ applicants.

          They still drop out in droves. Wasting time and space for students who actually want to succeed and graduate.

      • me

        It is a consideration when you have Yale, Harvard, Princeton, etc. putting on a dog and pony show but keeping the reins of political and corporate power in the hands of their ‘legacy’ brats–like the Bushes, Hunts, Gores, etc. Globalists that are ruining the country for a few shekels.

      • Alucard_the_last

        The issue is that unqualified ‘people’ are getting in while qualified humans are not. Why even let some idiot in because they probably won’t be able to pass enough classes to graduate. Negroes will just take up space just to major in something retarded like negro studies or drop out of school. For the love of God, they can’t even speak proper English and need a calculator to add and subtract.

        • LexiconD1

          And, those are the honor roll students at the nearest ghetto high. Think how stupid their HS drop outs are…

  • antiquesunlight

    Now that it isn’t just whites complaining about the pro-black/Hispanic racism, maybe something will be done about it.

    • Max

      If it adversely affect the admission of say, a *certain* religious/ethnic group, the problem would be solved yesterday.

      • me

        Chicken twirlers!

        • Max

          Indeed, whites ARE the chickens they are twirling.

          • me

            Good thing the Negroes aren’t making us into KFC–Kentucky Fried Caucasians!

  • Harvard’s ethnic bias?

    Next to nobody, except for Ron Unz or Espenshade-Radford, is going to want to open up that Pandora’s Box.

    • Tony Murphy

      Yes because YKW, although classed as ‘White’ in the figures, are massively over-represented. The already under-represented Whites, especially those of the working and middle classes, are therefore dealt a double whammy.

    • Ike Eichenberg

      A few Jews are honest about the reality.

      • Unz proved that Jews are way overrepresented in the Ivy League relative to their qualifications; Espenshade and Radford demonstrated that proletarian rural to exurban to suburban working to middle class whites with the resume that one would expect of them (4-H, FFA, JROTC, etc.) are way underrepresented relative to their qualifications.

        However, there is an FFA that can get you into the Ivy League: The one in the ghetto: Future Felons of America.

  • JackKrak

    Good. Anything to get it in the news and force the defenders of the whole rotten house of cards to step into the light and explain why we need every campus full of double digit IQ’s.

  • Luca

    Expose these academic cretins for what they are. Instead of being institutions of higher learning they are altars to the religion of the liberal agenda.

  • Asians score very well in a great number of fields and do genuinely get burned in the so-called interests of “fairness”.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      They don’t get burned as much as whites.

      .

      • White Christian straight males are last place in the affirmative-action hierarchy.

    • me

      Who cares?! I only care about Whites, and so should you.

      • What kind of bantu would I be if I couldn’t see past my own White nose?

        • me

          Ha! There are plenty of liberal, self-loathing Whites. There are plenty of Negro-identifying Whites, Asian-identifying Whites, Mestizo-identifying Whites, etc….They’re Whites’ worst enemies…

  • Mack0

    It’s a good strategy to draw attention to Asian’s being harmed by affirmative action. Asian’s need to realize the system doesn’t benefit them. No reason to stay loyal to the left if they do nothing but undermine the success of your children

    • With one caveat:

      Remember, the other side has the luxury of moving goalposts when it comes to defining diversity. It can mean anything from only black Americans on one extreme, to anyone but straight white non-Jewish cisgendered men on the other extreme, with lots of gradations in between.

      Depending on what agenda it has in mind, the left or sub-components of it can define Asians as either diverse or non-diverse.

      • Tony Murphy

        I think we all know only too well ‘the agenda they have in mind’.

  • John Smith

    Blacks (and hispanics) are collectively such a cancer.

    Colleges don’t let in unqualified blacks & hispanics – racism.

    Colleges let in unqualified blacks & hispanics – a much higher failure/dropout rate & worse, giving degrees to those who were pushed through.

    On two occasions, a high ranking Japanese politician has stated that the long term prospects for the US are bleak – because there are too many blacks & hispanics.

    • IstvanIN

      On two occasions, a high ranking Japanese politician has stated that the long term prospects for the US are bleak – because there are too many blacks & hispanics.
      I recall that and he was spot on.

      • John Smith

        Agreed.

        Hmmm…is “Asians/Jews” one word?

        • John Smith

          Moderator, apologies – my above comment was supposed to be below…can you delete above and this one?

    • Max

      The Japanese can afford to be frank. They are not white.

      • Alexandra1973

        I happened upon a video of, I guess it’s a show called “Tokyo Morning” where this Japanese family is, heheh, aping blacks…and dropping more than a few N-bombs. It was literally a knee-slapper.

        • Max

          -and they are quite literally laughing all of the way to the bank because they do not have to support this ponderous burden of dark-matter as we do-

    • antiquesunlight

      He might as well have just said the entire West. Except replace Hispanics with Muslims in some cases.

      It seems close to inevitable that Japan and a few other East Asian countries will carry the light of civilization into 2100.

  • Lewis33

    The next time anyone mentions the words “white privilege”, your one word response only need be “Asians”.

    • John Smith

      Spot on.

      Hmmm…is “Asians/Jews” one word?

    • Dave West

      Or any other group, besides blacks, for that matter!

  • MekongDelta69

    It reads:
    “Racial preferences are a dangerous tool and may only be used as a last resort.”

    It should read:
    “Racial preferences are a dangerous tool and should never be used as any resort.”

  • KevinPhillipsBong

    In other words, as long as there are still white seats to plunder why should we be inconvenienced?

  • JohnEngelman

    Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action.

    • antiquesunlight

      I’ve seen polls which show that a majority of blacks are against AA. I don’t see them trying to get rid of it, though. They might be embarrassed by it, but they still don’t mind benefiting from it at Evil Whitey’s expense.

      • JohnEngelman

        Affirmative action does not create opportunities. It takes them from those who deserve them, and gives them to those who do not deserve them.

    • Whitesneedtobebrave

      They have no shame or manners.

  • Extropico

    Whites should be very careful of stating that race should be irrelevant to admissions/hiring in nations that they created. This notion in a vacuum can provide an excuse for ethnic cleansing for inappropriate reasons. Asians receive many benefits on trade/immigration that are not available to YT now.

  • Rhialto

    It’s good when members of the Liberal coalition attack each other.

  • IKUredux

    Gee, I’m sorry, but I don’t care about the fing asians. Stay in asia and go to school, you little tools. Harvard was founded by White Christians, why the hell can’t it stay that way? As far as I know, no Whites are clamoring to get into elite yeshivas. Or, elite madrassas. Or, elite HBCs. So, if we are all equal, why is it of paramount importance for all these non White, non Christian persons to attend our elite White Christian Universities and colleges? No, really, why? Is it because all these non White, non Christians have some sort of inferiority complex? And, despite the fact that they are equal, they don’t really feel like they are? And, so, therefore, they must insert themselves into White society to what, prove that they are equal? I mean, if you are equal, why do you feel compelled to insert yourself into White Christian society? It makes no sense. Unless, of course, you have a sneaking suspicion, that perhaps you aren’t on some level, equal to White Christians. Oh, and by the way? Your sneaking suspicion is right on the money.

  • Whitesneedtobebrave

    Asians maybe the model minority, but they do not support white interests. They are for the colored people. if you look at the stats, a majority of these Asians voted for Obola because they want a man of color as the president. Time to stop kissing their skinny butts and boot them out of the country as well.

  • Magician

    Just for your information UNC is the school that Eve Carson was the student body president of, before he was murdered by two black males by gunshots, who only was attempting to steal money.

    The animals are named DeMario Atwater and Laurence Lovette, and both are serving their life sentences without parole.

    • Magician

      ….

      • me

        Cold, dead, soulless eyes….

    • Max

      Obviously, whites must work harder to improve race-relations. THAT is the message we should take from this.

  • Spikeygrrl

    What’s wrong with early admissions? (Full disclosure: I was a Seven Sisters early admission.)

  • OyVey00

    Asians are being targeted because they cannot limit the tribesmen. Guess why.

  • superlloyd

    In a race-neutral competition for the approximately 50,000 places for first-year students at the nation’s 25 top-ranked universities, high-scoring blacks would be buried by a huge mountain of high-scoring non-black students. Today, under prevailing affirmative action admissions policies, there are about 3,000 black first-year students matriculating at these 25 high-ranking universities, about 6 percent of all first-year students at these institutions. But if these schools operated under a strict race-neutral admissions policy where SAT scores were the most important qualifying yardstick, these universities could fill their freshman classes almost exclusively with students who score at the very top of the SAT scoring scale. As shown previously, black students make up less than 1 percent of these high-scoring groups or 244 out of 50,000 or 0.49%.

    Ca. 3,000 actual v 244 eligible.

    • Adolf Verloc

      And of course, none of this means that blacks with good cognitive skills would be denied a college education. It just means that those who would have gone to Harvard would instead go to U of M, those who would have gone to U of M to Michigan State (my alma mater and so on.)

      • MBlanc46

        Absolutely, which is a fact that AA advocates refuse to acknowledge.

  • Alucard_the_last

    Good for them. They sued the University of California because they were denied entrance to Berkeley so unqualified negroes and Hispanics were getting in through the highly racist affirmative action policies. They won the lawsuit. The sad thing is if whites would sue, we would lose.

  • AmericanCitizen

    This shows you how race-obsessed our nation is. You would think that elite college admissions would be based only on merit and ability, not pigmentation. Since the opposite is true, the logical conclusion is that individuals who do not qualify to study in these institutions nevertheless attend and are graduated.

  • pcmustgo

    See? Here is an opportunity for Whites and Asians to align. Again, I’ve posted many times about asians being racist to me and whites and asian “unpleasantries”. But still, opportunities are opportunities.

  • Well how else are you going to meet the race quota? If we are to make it equal for every one, and you want to look as your establishment has a mix of people, why not pit blacks against the blacks, white aganst white, asians aganst asians.
    I think this is more fair than just giving some one a free ride becase of their race alone.
    one shouls be accepted by there merit, not becase of the shade of ones skin. But if you want to have that mix races group equaly, you can’t compair the white with an asian or black. You must compair a black with black white with wite ect.
    But the p.c thing i believe has gone too far. but that i know some would argue.
    my suggestion who thinks so grow some thiker skin, life is a kick to the head after another.
    you have to make the best with what you have, and laugh off the a holes,

  • shmo123

    Moldovans would probably take anyplace that would have them, and getting to western Europe is a lot easier for them than getting a visa for America. Same for the Poles and Rumanians. It’s far easier and cheaper to go to another European country, especially when you’re from another EU country, than trying to get a visa to the states–and much less expensive. It’s not a matter of preference, it’s a matter of accessibility and economics.

  • shmo123

    “Life in Eastern Europe is not good.”

    That depends entirely on where you are in Eastern Europe. If you’re living a hard scrabble existence in Belarus or Ukraine, it probably isn’t very good. If you’re living in Warsaw, Krakow, Budapest, Prague, etc. and have a good job, you’re probably not at the income level of your UK or German counterpart, but you more than likely have a pretty good life–if less materialistic. Those people have come a long way since the horror of WWII and communist repression–they rebuilt their cities without any foreign aid (no Marshall plan dollars), have successfully adopted free market economies, and should be commended for it. Again, they may not be as materially wealthy as their counterparts in Bonn or Paris, but to say life is not good, on the surface, is simply not true. They are Europeans, not third worlders.