In Blow to PM Cameron, Lawmakers Criticize UK’s Immigration ‘Mess’

Kylie MacLellan, Yahoo! News, October 29, 2014

Britain’s border and immigration system is a “mess”, lawmakers said on Wednesday in a report which will increase pressure on Prime Minister David Cameron’s government to take a tougher line on migrants ahead of next year’s national election.

Opinion polls show immigration is a major concern for voters and it has fueled the rise of the UK Independence Party, which may scupper Cameron’s chances of staying in power after the May election by splitting the right-wing vote. UKIP backs stronger immigration curbs and Britain’s exit from the European Union.

In a damning report, parliament’s Public Accounts Committee said the government could not track people through the system or check whether those refused the right to stay in Britain had actually left the country.

The government has also failed to tackle a long-standing backlog of tens of thousands of asylum applications and the number of new cases awaiting a decision is increasing, it said.

“The pressure is on and the Home Office (interior ministry) must take urgent steps to sort out this immigration mess,” said opposition Labour party lawmaker Margaret Hodge, chair of the committee.

At the end of the 2013-14 financial year there were more than 175,000 people whose applications to stay in Britain had been rejected, the report said.

“It is deeply worrying that the Home Office is not tracking those people . . . to ensure that they are removed from the UK,” said Hodge. “The department should, as a matter of urgency, take more steps to identify people who remain in the UK illegally and speed up their removal.”

A YouGov poll published on Wednesday showed 57 percent of voters considered immigration the most important issue facing the country, with the economy coming second on 49 percent.

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Nick Boles, a government minister and member of Cameron’s Conservatives, said Britons felt parliament had lost control over immigration and might never regain control due to EU rules on free movement within the 28-nation bloc.

“The difficulty that has arisen is this sense that we don’t have that control and, bluntly, they’re right. It’s true,” he said in an interview with Total Politics magazine.

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon spoke on Sunday of some British towns being “swamped” by migrants. On Monday he apologized for his use of emotive language but said the thrust of his remarks about immigration was correct.

The mayor of the northern French port town of Calais, from where migrants often attempt to cross the English Channel to Britain, urged London on Tuesday to overhaul its generous welfare system and lax identity controls, saying they made it a magnet for illegal immigrants.

The new report said outsourcing group Capita had been hired in 2012 to check the records of more than 250,000 people who should have been removed from Britain and by the end of last year it was unable to trace more than 50,000 of them.

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  • MekongDelta69

    I’m hardly any kind of ‘expert’ on UK’s politics, but Cameron’s a “Conservative”?!?

    Do they mean ‘conservative’ as in, Jeb Bush is a ‘conservative’?!?!

    • If David Cameron was an American politician, changing nothing about him, he would be a northeastern/New England RINO of the great Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe tradition.

      • MekongDelta69

        So… in other words… useless

        • Ike Eichenberg

          Or useful idiot.

      • propagandaoftruth

        Brit labour and conservatives both detest their petty middle and working class. The Whites especially, of course.
        They’ve unleashed a storm they will not be able to control. Whatever UKIP’s deal, they look poised to destroy the destroyers.

        • me

          I hope so! They should also throw a bunch of political whores into prison for treason against the Crown and the British people.

          • propagandaoftruth

            UKIP is hitting it’s stride. Step one, halt process and gain power. This is what it looks like UKIP is capable of as opposed to BNP etc.

            Once Ukip is the new thesis, then we can see what the next antithesis is – something BNP-like?

            UKIP and FN are savvy realistic leaders in the new Europe. Once they are in power I suspect many Muslims and aliens will begin feeling less and less welcome and that could go any number of ways.

        • SlizzardAjeosshi

          Yep run of the mill conservatives hate white working class people because they are poor peons in their eyes, lefties hate white working class people because they tend to be socially conservative (and well also because…they are white), same excrement, different fan.

          I often tell Italian libs i debate online if they ever feel sketchy about sharing the same pro-immigration camp with such champions of the working class as the Waltons, Sheldon Adelson, JPM, the WSJ, Microsoft etc. etc.

          Needless to say i am invariably met with the proverbial deafening silence

    • Thorsted

      I think after the end of the cold war conservatism became utopian too -the right became like the utopian left. Not just on immigration -but also to bring democracy to arabs that are tribal -is utopian to me. That is why we see the rise of Ukip and Front National.

    • JohnEngelman

      A conservative is one who pursues policies that benefit the rich, like bringing in more immigrants to lower wages.

      • Publius Pompilius Quietus

        John, you’re confusing plutocracy for conservatism. The right and left are outmoded, so this might be a pointless conversation, but the genuine right isn’t concerned with making rich people richer. You can argue that economic liberty has that effect, but it’s simply an ad hominem fallacy to suppose that’s the motive of everyone who supports economic liberty. Indeed, the genuine right has always been more concerned with maintaining classical liberty, which often comes at the price of equality—a la John Randolph of Roanoke.

        • JohnEngelman

          Edmund Burke is considered to be the progenitor of conservatism. In his “On the Revolution in France” he wrote, “The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do what they please: we ought to see what it will please them to do, before we rick congratulations, which may be soon turned into complaints.”

          With economic liberty comes competition.

          In his review of “The Road to Serfdom,” by F. A. Hayek George Orwell wrote, “The problem with competitions is that somebody wins them.”

          And most people lose. In the capitalist marketplace most people benefit from a government that places its thumb on their side of the scale.

          There are various kinds of conservatism. I am pessimistic about human nature and human potential. I think there is often wisdom in tradition. I distrust untried social and economic experiments.

          Nevertheless, I am not an economic conservative. An economic conservative wants to skew things more in favor of the rich. He wants to starve the public sector of the economy, and use its emancipator as evidence of the superiority of the private sector.

          One of my favorite political philosophers is Edmund Burke. Nevertheless, my conservatism is without concern for the economic well being of rich people.

          • Luca

            I prefer reading Milton Friedman because when he speaks, he speaks with common sense.

            “A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it …
            gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks
            they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is
            a lack of belief in freedom itself.”

            “A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither. A society
            that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both.”

            “So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear, that there
            is no alternative way so far discovered of improving the lot of the
            ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that
            are unleashed by the free-enterprise system.”

            “There is one and only one social responsibility of business–to use it
            resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so
            long as it stays within the rules of the game, which is to say, engages
            in open and free competition without deception or fraud”

          • JohnEngelman

            You like Milton Friedman because in an articulate way he expresses what you like and dislike. Other people like Stephen J. Gould for the same reason.

            Milton Friedman cannot explain why during the twentieth century there was usually more growth in the job market, the per capita gross domestic product, and even the stock market under Democratic presidents.

            He liked to say, “There is no such thing as a free lunch.” Then during the presidential campaign of 1980 he encouraged the voters to believe that they could have tax cuts, an expensive military buildup, a better economy for them, and a balanced budget. In effect, he was telling the voters that there is a free lunch: they could eat their cake and have it too.

            Unfortunately, the economic record of the Reagan administration substantiated his earlier maxim that there is no free lunch.

          • Luca

            Big taxes are necessary for big government. Government is an ever growing, over-reaching enterprise that thrives on power and money. Other people’s money.

            “Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military
            defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals.
            It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their
            property. When government– in pursuit of good intentions tries to
            rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests,
            the cost come in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom.
            Government should be a referee, not an active player.” –
            M. Friedman.

            I worked in government for over thirty years, I have seen the redundant departments, over bloated budgets, waste, fraud, abuse, special interests, inefficiency and incompetency that comes from any enterprise that does not have to turn a profit and has an unlimited source of funding. And yet you would argue for more funding, whereas I would argue for less.

            Friedman was a Nobel Prize economist and an adviser to Reagan. He was never intellectually dishonest, more libertarian than Republican and even espoused certain ideas that made conservatives shudder, especially about government control of illegal drugs, prostitution, conscription and the justice system.

            Reagan faced and inherited worse conditions than Obama and while you cherry pick your statistics on certain aspects of the Reagan years, the historic “big picture” is that Reagan created a recovery and rebound from a series of economic problems that started with LBJ’s “Great Society” and his spending on the war in Vietnam. Then came Jimmy carter who was an utter failure on economic and foreign policy issues. Reagan’s military spending is justified by what he contributed to defeating the Soviet Union’s cold war. Defense spending should be a priority for a nation with a role as a world leader.

            You must somehow realize, as I have come to learn, that government will never be efficient, rarely effective and absolutely insatiable when it comes to taxation. (This country was founded on a citizens’ revolt of unfair taxation.) I have also learned that whenever an organization, public or private, becomes too big, it becomes unmanageable and out-of-control. We are there right now and have been for some time.

      • WR_the_realist

        Nope, a conservative is someone like Pat Buchanan, hated by most of the establishment Republicans.

        • JohnEngelman

          Pat Buchanan is moderately liberal on economic issues, and reactionary on social issues.

          The leaders of the Republican Party are the other way around. They lack enthusiasm for the social issues, while favoring anything that benefits the rich.

          • none of your business

            What do you mean by social reactionary? Marriage instead of drifting from man to man until you are 50 and no longer pursued? Having children within marriage? Sexual virtue and chastity? Being against abortion? Providing a loving well organized clean home for your children whatever our income? Participating in some kind of community activities and volunteer work? Signing your children up for scouts, sports and other activities? Teaching your kids to sew and maintain their cars and basic home repair and remodeling? Going to Church? Participating in your kids school activities? Not abusing drugs and drink? Living within your income? Being faithful to your spouse? Being polite and pleasant to your spouse instead of grouchy and nasty? Not getting parking and traffic tickets?
            Obeying all the persnickety picky laws, ordinances and regs such as renewing your dog license? Taking care of older family members? Helping other relatives in various ways such as taking the kids of an overwhelmed single Mother for a long summer vacation so she can concentrate on her job for a while or remodel her house? Helping a divorced man keep in touch with his kids no matter how much he hates his wicked witch of an ex?
            That is what social conservatives and all us eeevvviiiil redneck flyover country WASP and Catholic White Americans do.

          • JohnEngelman

            I am not criticizing social reactionaries. I am one myself for the reasons you suggest. I have always disliked the sexual revolution. I am a practicing Christian.

      • NoMosqueHere

        Blacks, self hating whites, and sick liberal jews won’t respond to your argument. They respond to politicians who want the US swamped with illegals, so the nation will be destroyed asap.

  • LHathaway

    “57 percent of voters considered immigration the most important issue”

    What percent of respondents were foreign born?

    • MekongDelta69

      43 percent – of course!

  • Luca

    ” …57 percent of voters considered immigration the most important issue facing the country…”

    The other 43% are immigrants.

  • The foreigners are going to kick the Royal family out of Buckingham Palace and onto their royal butts, once Elizabeth is dead. You might think that the Royals would have a stake in this, but I’ve never heard a word from any of them.

    • none of your business

      They are not supposed to even think about the state of Britain let alone say a word about it. They are actors whose job is to learn their lines, put on their costumes and hit their marks. You might enjoy a book “The Queen and I” A Republican is elected because the Union of Television Engineers and Technicians inserts subliminal messages “Vote Republican” into every show . The Republican is elected, becomes PM and ousts the royal family. They are sent to live in tiny nasty council housing and go on welfare.
      If you dislike the royal family you will love this book.

    • jane johnson

      Funny you should mention that, big, especially considering the sorry state of affairs in Calais. I’m reading a somewhat obscure bio of Elizabeth I, and I’m at the point (1559) where she’s scheming how to keep that port from reverting back to the French. Wonder if things would’ve been different had she succeeded.

      • none of your business

        Might be different. The British government would charter those huge 2,000 passenger ferry boats to cross several times a day. The British government
        would be passing out cash money to them on the boat. As soon as the boat landed at Dover the British would have buses to take them directly to EXTREMELY overcrowded London and drop them off at their hostels.
        Can’t house Africans in the isolated suburbs like the French do. The British are so proud of the African dregs they want the dregs in plain sight lurking all over London.
        The hostels the British house the single immigrants in were built for students and low paid young people on their first jobs. Now they house single African men right in the better parts of London.
        If Britain still owned Calais there would not be Africans hanging about. They would be picked upon arrival and shipped directly to England. It’s only about 20 mile to Dover.

  • none of your business

    Out of control immigration? Just like America.

  • RacialRay

    “generous welfare system and lax identity controls”

    Keep throwing bird seed on the ground and you will eventually get rats.

  • WR_the_realist

    Why don’t 57 percent of Americans see mass immigration and illegal immigration as the greatest problem this country has?

    • Ella

      Answer: Because most Americans do not live on an island.

  • IKUredux

    Well, blimey! What are our choices here? Continue on this path of genocide , or say : NO MORE! OH MY GOD!!! EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON who advocates “dieversity” needs to DIE.Oh my God, do not the White people who advocate diversity have a fing clue about what will happen when the dark hordes take over? Hello? Haiti! Hello? South Africa! Hello? Zimbabwe. We Whites are marked for extinction. Because, we are smarter, and more attractive than any other races in the world. We will be forced to miscegenate with other races. This will be done to make the lesser races smarter and, they think, better looking.RESIST. Because”Every DNA goes better with WHITE DNA”.

  • KenelmDigby

    This is the reason why Enoch Powell hated the EU, all the way back to UK accession in 1973.
    The real question is this – ‘If the UK parliament doesn’t have the power any longer to legislate for vital UK interests, what is the point of having a UK parliament in the first place?’

  • Castle Moon

    Let us hope that the policy on immigration desired by the majority of the British public are finally translated into votes for leaders who share those beliefs.

  • scutum

    There are a number of David Cameron’s in the Republican party. John Boehner, the Bushes, John McShame, Lindsay Gramnesty, and Mitch McConnell immediately come to mind. After all his dirty tricks to defeat the tea party candidate in the primary and his support for Thad Cochoran, I was hoping that the useless Mitch McConnell would be defeated by Ms. Grimes. But it looks like he is going to pull the wool over the voters eyes once again and win re-election. I know Ms. Grimes is a liberal/socialist, but Mitch McConnell is no better, he’s just a more skillful prevaricator.

    • me

      I’m beginning to wonder if, indeed, these ‘people’ are really voted into office, or if the Diebold machines, the paper votes, and any other votes are of any use. What would stop the bankers, the corporations, AIPAC, and other sundry outlaws from putting whatever whore politician they wanted in office there?

  • SlizzardAjeosshi

    Aren’t guns outlawed in the UK ?