A white homeowner who gunned down an unarmed 19-year-old black woman on his porch last year has been sentenced to at least 17 years in prison.

Theodore Wafer was convicted of second-degree murder in August for killing Renisha McBride outside his home in Dearborn Heights in Detroit, Michigan home in the early hours of November 2.

Theodore Wafer

Theodore Wafer

Before getting his sentence, 55-year-old Wafer apologized to McBride’s family, saying he killed a woman who was ‘too young to leave this world’.

‘I will carry that guilt and sorrow forever,’ said Wafer, often pausing to control his emotions.

Wafer was convicted last month after a nine-day trial that centered on whether he had a reasonable and honest belief that his safety was in peril.

He testified that he was awakened by pounding on his doors and shot McBride–who was found to be extremely drunk–because he feared for his life. But a jury rejected his claim of self-defense.

Renisha McBride

Renisha McBride

Wafer is white and McBride was black, and some wondered whether race may have been a factor, likening it to the shooting of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin–but race was hardly mentioned at the trial.

Prosecutors recommended at least 17 years in prison for Wafer, including two years for unlawful use of a gun. Defense attorney Cheryl Carpenter asked for as few as six years in prison.

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‘I am confident that if you weren’t going to prison today, you would never commit another crime,’ Judge Dana Margaret Hathaway told Wafer in court on Wednesday.

‘I fully recognize that you did not bring these circumstances to your doorstep. They arrived there. But once you did, you made the choices that brought you here today.’

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After the sentencing, McBride’s sister, Jasmine, told NBC: ‘I’m very happy. I believe justice was served and I believe my sister can rest peacefully now.’

No one knows why McBride ended up at Wafer’s home about 4.30am, although prosecutors speculated she may have been seeking help. She had crashed her car into a parked car about a half-mile away in Detroit around 1am. An autopsy found she was extremely drunk.

Wafer opened the front door and shot McBride in the face, firing through a screen door. He first suggested to police that it was an accident but later admitted to intentionally pulling the trigger.

The jury convicted Wafer of murder, manslaughter and a gun-related charge on August 7. He will be eligible for parole after serving the minimum sentence.

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  • MekongDelta69

    Was there any doubt as to the outcome of this trial?

    • AndrewInterrupted

      The do-gooder judge was just saving lives. Think of how many people would have been injured or killed stealing Air Jordans from store window fronts if the judge had handed down an honest sentence.

    • Laura Dilworth

      no

  • DaveMed

    Was this the woman who had both alcohol and marijuana in her system?

  • Lewis33

    Google this judge for some tax cheating stories. She lives out in the burbs, away from all the wonderful diversity!

    • Whitetrashgang

      Yes, Diversity our greatest strength . Same thing happened to me and I called 911 and would not open or answer the door.Of course that makes me a racist, but not a convict. God Bless America.

      • cherrie greenbaum123

        First rule is to stay as far away from them as humanly possible. Everything else is secondary.

        • Neue Sachlichkeit

          I agree with you completely, but as we watch a demographic crescent closes around what was once America from the south/coasts. Run to the middle……..surrounded is not my idea of a good idea.

          I wish I had an alternative to offer.

          Or at least one I’d offer in a public forum.

          Meaning, staying away is rapidly becoming impossible.

          • Nancy

            I noticed this as well, when communicating to that John DeNugent guy out in Pittsburgh. I actually pointed that out to him: he thinks the New White Homeland should be in Pittsburgh and surrounding states like W VA. He says he doesn’t agree with the pacific NW Front idea because that area is full of white liberals.

            That’s why we chose northern Utah as our relocation destination next May: bantus aren’t exactly known for traversing huge snowy mountains to get to us (the Wasatch Mtn range is MUCH bigger than the Allegheny of PA), and if push comes to shove, we have an all-white area straight up to Canada, so we’re not surrounded.

            I still think this is our best bet. Especially if we begin a co-op community, self sustaining and all that. It’s already done south of ATL, called Serenbe (Google it), and it’s fabulous if not for the fact that it’s filled with wealthy liberals and too close to the Atlanta ferals should they decide to raid them.

          • Blogger Viking Bitch moved to Salt Lake City, but has moved out. The mormons sold out to diversity for money and are taking in vast numbers of africans via some mormon charity that gets paid to take them in. Plus huge numbers of illegal mexicans. She published a number of ground reports from Utah while she was there. They’re on her web site.

          • me

            Northwest is it. Libs can move out, once awake people become the majority.

          • Who Me?

            There’s a LOT of aware or half aware whites in the northwest. The liberal idiots are mostly over on the west side of the Cascades, over in the Seattle-to-Portland strip. Other than that there are very few liberals and damn few blacks. (Lots of mexicans, but they will leave as soon as the welfare gets cut off.)

          • Periapsis

            Or they are driven out.

          • bilderbuster

            The Romney’s are loaded and they’re even adopting them.
            While the Romney’s are adopting them, the Ryan’s, McCain’s and the Boehner’s are marrying them.
            What’s wrong with these “conservatives”?
            The next thing you know, one of Rand Paul’s sons will elope with one of Obama’s daughters.
            Sorry to go off topic but that Little Brown Romney always sets me off.

          • me

            It wasn’t long ago these Mormons were saying that Negroes didn’t even have souls. It’s amazing what a few decades of pc brainwashing and ostracism can do….

          • bilderbuster

            Even when Mitt went recruiting for the Mormons, instead of going to Vietnam, he went recruiting on the topless beaches of France.
            These days the Mormons are recruiting big time in Central and South America.

          • Neue Sachlichkeit

            Better White liberals than……….the alternative. I am sorry, dear, but I wish I didn’t see your alternative as merely eventually being swamped by Bantus and lawsuits. I promise I WISH I agreed with you, but sadly, I cannot. I do think your option is the best of a sad, ugly few, at this point. I sincerely wish you well and hope I am completely wrong.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Can’t do that anymore. The lizards in those DC think-tanks came up with HUD vouchers. They follow you, and you pay their rent. There was a poster here yesterday who encountered two Africans in New Town, North Dakota of all places, as they were guilting White people into paying for their junk food at a convenience store. One of them was also doing his Emmitt Till impersonation with the White girl behind the counter. I said to myself, “What in the Sam Hill are Africans doing way out there in God’s country?!” It left me sick to my stomach. The answer is probably: HUD vouchers.

          • anony

            I live in a very White area of Pennsylvania, but in the last three years I’ve seen an increase in black/hispanic “come-heres”. No reason they should be moving into this economically depressed area.

            A friend got his car “keyed” the other day and the sheriff blamed it on the increasing die-versify in the area.

            Separation is the only answer.

          • me

            HUD is corrupt and wasteful to the core. Needs to go!

        • Bunky

          Amen.
          This poor slob lived a mile away from Detroit?

    • me

      What a clueless, corrupt, atti-White pos this pandering butch judge is….probably a clueless, man-hating, feminazi Merchant, to boot!

      • ElComadreja

        Probably has a black girlfriend.

        • Orion_Blue

          More likely, a versatile not to say multitudinous posse of playmates. The degenerate, immoral dog probably got a real kick and bang out of delivering a white male to 17 years in prison for doing us all a favour (think benefits costs and metastizing spawn that would otherwise ensue).

          And people think giving the bitch mafia the vote and financial independence (shaft the hard-working male to gouge independence and a lump of beefy thug-beef to satisfy the old nasty-nasty appetites), qualifies as ‘progressive’ polity developments?

          The cleverest stunt our Traditional Adversaries, the String Pullers ever managed to effect, was the carcinoma of TruePerson-hating feminizm that has been so spectacularly effective In splitting Our Race asunder

    • Laura Dilworth

      no jury?

  • Christorchaos

    After the sentencing, McBride’s sister, Jasmine, told NBC: ‘I’m very happy. I believe justice was served and I believe my sister can rest peacefully now.’

    I am glad the system is producing some satisfied customers. Most justice I am familiar with produces a measure of dissatisfaction for both sides.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      That is a very good point.
      She is acknowledging the judge’s cowardly overkill.
      Very good point.

      • Christorchaos

        Well, it is, “out of the mouth of babes … the truth”. If all the race hustlers were not otherwise occupied in Ferguson, one would have been at her side to help her craft a statement saying “not enough to reverse the legacy of racism”.

  • Fed Up

    The guy should have claimed it appeared the person was pointing a weapon at him and that he fired in what he thought was self-defense!

    Blacks lie all the time when accused of crimes. About time White people started lying for their own defense!

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      He should have done what they do; say she called him a Ni**er.

      .

    • Samuel_Morton

      He seems genuinely affected by the tragedy that occurred that unfortunate evening. I’m afraid that he will become a cynic very quickly in prison after everyone with a darker complexion than he exacts revenge with extreme prejudice and medieval fury.

      • R L Buds

        I must have missed it, what tragedy are you refering to?

      • ElComadreja

        The white race traitors and minority scum that run the prison system will set him up for it too.

    • Neue Sachlichkeit

      ” About time White people started lying for their own defense!”
      QF very sad truth.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yeah, what was he thinking, throwing himself on the mercy of PC kangaroo court. They don’t do honor and integrity. You’re right, it’s time to roll up our sleeves and get into the gutter with them.

    • Cid Campeador

      We’re supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard.

      • ElComadreja

        And how’s that working out?

        • Cid Campeador

          It sucks!!!

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Bah! ‘…When in Rome, do as the Romans do…’

        We gave them the benefit of the doubt.
        Now it’s time to fight dirty like them–only dirtier.

    • Garrett Brown

      We have too much integrity for that.

    • Magician

      There were many possible things he could have insisted she was doing to cause him to fire….. but it appears this man would rather be responsible, and on top of that, to make matters worse, the trial was held at the wrong time when judges around the countries must have been very badly pressured mentally to be unforgiving when it comes to cases like this

    • Orion_Blue

      Well, he was presented with an offensive weapon; it was banging on his door.

      This presages what is likely to come, where The Most Exalted & Aggrieved begin to exercise their own tru hidden agenda of Racial ‘Reparations’.

      Why, oh why, were these animals banished by force extreme majeure when the possibility. Existed to do so?

      Why indeed, did we in Europe not resist this imposition shortly after we lost the biggest argument of the 20th Century? (Enter as a loser; leave as a loser?).

  • We never answer the door after dark. Kitty Genovese could be out there, and I would keep my family safe every time.

    • Whitetrashgang

      I will answer the door after dark, as long as it not diversity knocking.

      • Periapsis

        Not me, if it’s someone I do not recognize, I am calling the police and reporting someone is pounding on my front door.

        • Nancy

          Amen, brother! I never go anywhere without Uncle Glock. He’s my favorite relative. Certainly wouldn’t be answering the door after dark. My kids find me “amusing” for walking around the house armed, but after taking self-defense gun classes, the instructors impressed on me that a gun won’t do you any good if you’re in one part of the house and the gun is in another.

    • Luca

      I would answer the door, but only with Mr. Rossi, Mr. Taurus, or Messrs Smith & Wesson accompanying me.

      • anony

        Personally, I like Mr. Remington and his brother Double-aught for that situation.

        • awb

          Ithaca Mod. 37, 02 buck.

          • anony

            Remington 870, 00 buck.

      • Cid Campeador

        YOu forgot Sturm- Ruger.

      • Orion_Blue

        Unfortunately, the castrated, (dis)United Kingdom prevents the ability to exercise the only viable form of self defence. In England, the only crimes routinely prosecuted are those of self defence or retaliation.

        Oh, there are, of course, the vast array of secular orthodoxy infractions that can invoke a show trial, entailing loss of gainful employment, destitution and ultimately, squalid homelessness.

        For example, suggesting that no, we really do not need the influx of zillions of turd world interlopers squatting on the country and inevitably, pulling it down to their own level; the cesspits they have absconded from, will bring about utter ruin.

        This is why I view articles from and post to AmRen through either a VPN Server or through the much-maligned TOR network.

    • TheCogitator

      My rule is that unless I know who is at the door, and additionally that they are friendly to me, and that I wish to engage with them at that time, I will not answer the door. Also I will not call out to ask any questions. I want whoever is there to think no one is at home. Should they try to break in, that will be the last foolish move of their life. Home invasions happen because people open the door to people they do not know are friendly to them. Also people should not open the door to the police. They are not your friend.

      • Tim

        I read some where you always make yourself known in the day time but never at night. One is to prevent burglary and the other to keep safe..

    • evilsandmich

      I picked up the habit of my neighbors and don’t open the door for anyone. 99% of the time it’s Mormons/JWs.

      • Nancy

        I bought an awesome book years ago called “The Challenge of the Cults and New Religions” by Ron Rhodes. He goes into each one of these “religions” and gives you arguments to shoot back to them. As someone very interested in and familiar with bible eschatology, I LOVE coming back at these people with the holes in their beliefs. Rarely do they have a comeback…they generally just thank me for my time and move on to the next house.

      • That sounds familiar. There’s only one entrance to my neighborhood, and the sign there says “No Soliciters”. We constantly get people selling vacuum cleaners, magazine subscriptions and other dreck we don’t need who think that “No Soliciting” doesn’t apply to them.

        I would like to add a sign saying “If You Need Help, Do Not Knock On Our Doors. We Are Not Your Friends”, but that would doubtless also be ignored.

  • Putting up with s**t is the price we pay for having diversity around. The crazy stuff blacks pull to annoy whites could fill a 24 volume encyclopedia set. But now we have to put up with them banging on our doors at 3 am. I don’t like this one bit.

    I wonder whether a “Trespassers will be shot on sight” sign would protect a homeowner in a case like this one. I also wonder why Wafer never called 911 before shooting, claiming rightly that he feared for his life. I guess when you’re woken up fearing a home invasion you might be confused.

    The question now is whether the “brothas” are gonna get wafer in prison. He may spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement. If so, that’s cruel and unusual punishment.

    • Nancy

      I used to have a sign that read, “Warning: We Don’t Call 911” and an image of a gun, but took it down as we were worried that 1) the vibrants will know there’s guns here, and 2) if I had to eliminate a vibrant, the “defense” will use my sign as evidence of vigilante-ism.

    • me

      A sign with a gun picture and a German shepherd dog picture will be a great deterrent. Even the illiterate, ‘diverse innocents’ at your door at 4 in the morning will pick another house. It’s also good to have a scary white clown mask and a barking dog tape. Look through a window with your clown mask on and fake bloody butcher knife in your hand, while blasting your multiple-dogs barking tape or cd. Also helps if you have a video camera mounted above your front and back door, and big-ass muddy work boots by the front mat. Don’t forget the high-beam motion-activated lights and megaphone. Yelling into a megaphone in an angry voice will get them running as well. Start a rumor that your house is ‘haunted’. The Spooks hate spooks, and are very superstitious about ghosts, devil worshipers, and crazy Honkeys.

      • Periapsis

        Maybe a picture of one of these armed with an a machine gun would do.

  • ZB01

    If it is indeed true, as the article states, that Mr. McBride gave the police one story, then later changed it, that does suggest malfeasance on his part, does it not? Especially if the sequence of events was to first state it was an accident, and then later to state that it was done with malice.

    The “race” angle should have been kept out of it entirely; it serves no good purpose and only serves to unnecessarily foment tension (like there isn’t enough already)!

    • Christorchaos

      How would *YOU* like to be faced with the rest of your life in prison with Big Bubba as your cellmate. Lying is a sin, but we tend to shade the truth when it *might* save our a$$. Especially when, as the judge said, you didnt invite trouble, it arrove at your doorstep.

      • ZB01

        “Officer, I thought she was a threat to my safety and I was trying to protect myself. She was pounding on my door in a threatening manner. [then if it gets to this point] With all due respect, Officer, I’d like to further cooperate with your investigation, but at this point I would request to have an attorney present.”

        NOT

        Today: it was an accident.
        Tomorrow: No, it wasn’t an accident; I did it on purpose.

  • TheCogitator

    This guy screwed up when he opened the door. It was stupid thing to do. Had he just waited inside his house, and if she broke through the door, then it would be possible to make claim of self defense. I don’t like the idea of drunken Negroes beating on my door in the wee hours of the morning, but with a locked door between him and the Negro, I don’t see how his defense makes sense. And since we know that the legal system favors blacks, one has to think about what will happen after shooting a black.

    • Tarczan

      Yeah, call the cops, sit down with your gun, and if the afro smashes through the door, fire away.

      • TheCogitator

        Exactly. Well said. When you kill anyone, white or black, you had better have strong case. By opening the door he lost his defense.

        • Cid Campeador

          I don’t know all the facts. Did she try to breach the door? Was he aware of anyone else accompanying her?
          It’s a hard call.

      • Sick of it

        Tell the cops they have a weapon and let them commit suicide by cop.

        • ZB01

          Good, if true. If not true, Police are in trouble and the person making the false police report will face felony charges.

          • Sick of it

            Percentage chance dictates they would have a weapon on them. They are not friendly, law abiding citizens.

          • ZB01

            You are right about this, of course….but I wouldn’t want any law abiding citizen to do time in jail, when they’re law-abiding (as I imagine Amreners are), and are only reacting in the heat of the moment.

          • The proper approach is to tell the police that you don’t know whether the individual has a gun.

          • Who Me?

            Call the police and say that someone is beating on your door and shouting, and you are afraid because you THINK they MAY be armed. You cannot be charged with making a false police report for your THOUGHTS (yet).
            Doesn’t Michigan have a Castle Doctrine law, or is it a Duty To Retreat state? In either case, the Homeowner wasn’t out and about, he was already in his home, which is about as “retreated” as you can get at 1 am.
            As for “prosecutors speculated she may have been seeking help. She had crashed her car into a parked car about a half-mile away”. Did the judge and jury actually think that this was the closest place she could have asked for help along that half mile? In a city? That is pure BS.

            The whole trial and sentence are a gross miscarriage of justice, but the outcome was inevitable, given the location it happened and the state of our current so-called “Justice” system.

          • Cid Campeador

            RIght.
            You call the cops, sit or crouch with your weapon in hand and when the door is kicked in, open fire and hope that it isn’t the SWAT team.

          • Who Me?

            The S.W.A.T. won’t be out there yelling and pounding on your door before they come in. The first thing you’ll know about them is when the iron bar comes through your front door with a bunch of guys behind it yelling. You’ll be handcuffed and thrown on the floor, they’ll shoot your dog, stick a gun in your ear and demand to know where “it” is. If you’re lucky they will tell you what “it” they are looking for. Once they figure out they have the wrong place. if your luck still holds, they will let you and the rest of your family out of the handcuffs and leave. Your dog is still dead, and your door is still busted, and your kids will still have nightmares for years but hopefully you’ll be alive. (Some innocent folks haven’t been lucky.)

          • Texan1st

            There are 800,000 to 1million police officers in the United States running close to 100 million police calls per year. That’s ONE BILLION police calls in just the past 10 years. How many examples can you provide where things went wrong? Errors happen when humans are involved. Especially when they get 1 billion chances to make one. Nobody can claim they did everything perfect in their jobs. Especially those that are tasked with entering potentially volital situations with guns involved. The stakes are just raised as well as the scrutiny. That still doesn’t alleviate the potential for mistakes being made from time to time. Do you seriously think those cops said, “Let’s go break into a random home and start killing innocent people and their dogs for the fun of it!”. Hindsight is always 20/20. However, even with the best planning and training, foresight never is.

          • Who Me?

            This is true, but in some cases the police are poorly trained, or their superiors use S.W.A.T. to deliver no-knock warrants for non-violent crimes. THAT is when you’d “better pray it’s not the police” on the other side coming in as Cid wrote.

            As to how many, go to:

            http://the7thpwr[DOT]wordpress[DOT]com/accidental-police-shootings/

            I don’t know if it’s up to date anymore, but it’s more than “just a few” and they are all documented. You’d be hard-pressed to find anyone anywhere that respects the job our law enforcement people do and usually do well, but I do know that since there is so much diversity throughout the ranks and so many affirmative action hires at the top, public safety has declined dramatically.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Like Jonathan Ferrell a black former Florida A&M University football player, shot by a White cop:

          McBride’s case recalls a September 2013 incident where 24-year-old Jonathan Ferrell knocked on the front door of a house in Georgia in the early morning following a car accident. The homeowner, instead of opening the door, called 911. When three police officers arrived, Ferrell ran towards the squad before officer Randall Kerrick drew his gun and shot him 10 times, killing the unarmed Ferrell.

          Officer Kerrick is White.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I think Ferguson, MO was suicide by cop. The guy must have known he had nothing the live for. He was a stupid fat slob. He had “Please kill me” written all over him.

          • Garrett Brown

            I think he enjoyed the life of free skittles and grape drank through intimidation of Indian store owners.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Sup, GB. I’m poaching over here, if you’re interesting in wading into a pack of Libtards. Then off to work.

            http //abcnews go com/US/justice-department-announce-civil-rights-probe-ferguson-police/story?id=25239768

          • Garrett Brown

            Into the hornets nest eh?

          • Laika

            You seem to be rather good at it. I read some of your comments on a previous thread.

            Just know when to get out and cut your losses, too many libtards are completely brainwashed and will repeat the marxist mantras when confronted with truths they don’t like.

          • Garrett Brown

            I should stop arguing over the Internet so much, causes stress and doesn’t really change their thought process. I have gotten much better about it in the past year, I’ve learned that many things just aren’t worth it, and you might never recieve the things that actually are.

          • Garrett Brown

            I posted a few Andrew, too much stupid for me. I haven’t listened to the podcast with Mr. Taylor yet so I’m going to do that before I pass out. Good luck sir.

      • Cid Campeador

        Exactly. You shoot someone through the screen you may as well cut your own throat.
        Once an intruder crosses the threshold, all bets are off.

      • Actually, you call the cops saying that there is a crazy African’t freaking out on drugs on your doorstep and tell them you can’t tell whether they have a gun.

        That way, the cops do the shooting and then THEY take the legal heat.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      True dat. But, even the judge said Wafer didn’t bring this upon himself. If McBride had been White and this happened in a White blue collar trailer park, Wafer would have only gotten probation, given his clean record.

      • TheCogitator

        I cannot argue with you there. White people have no organized groups that would demand revenge like the negroes. Our legal system is perfectly fine with sacrificing a white person to appease the black blood lust.

    • Ultimate187

      He made a big deal about not wanting to cower in his own home.

      • Who Me?

        “Cower in his own house” I get that, I really do, but the alternatives are even worse. Stay inside, don’t open the door to them, don’t go outside leaving yourself open to harm (even armed you CAN be harmed) or leaving your home open for them to go inside and do whatever. Unfortunately he will have 17 years to think about it, and believe me, he will do all 17 years if he lives that long. He will not get parole or early release due to good behavior, overcrowding or anything else.

    • Laura Dilworth

      was she on his porch?

  • IKUredux

    Actually, I am surprised he got off this easily. The climate in the Detroit area is completely anti-White. I suspect his punishment wasn’t as harsh as it could have been because Dearborn and Dearborn Heights are predominantly arab. (Don’t want to set too harsh of a punishment precedent) as arabs will probably be involved in the same kind of confrontations in the future.

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    There are still whites in Detroit?

    • Sick of it

      He might have been the last one. Never know.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Except for that one kid looking through rose colored glasses who was profiled here. Remember that article on the kid who bought a Detroit dump and wrote about it?

    • AndrewInterrupted

      He’s some sort of Latin/White cocktail. Certainly White and male enough to be persecuted by a White Lesbian judge, batting for the grievance industry.

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    The madness continues. His first mistake was not getting the “f” out of Detroit years ago. It’s end game for whites. You can’t call the cops because in Detroit, black teenagers passed out on your front porch is like finding a stray, braying cat there. Shooting the negro or negress causes this type of travesty of justice. And we cannot escape. Everywhere we go they follow. Systematically destroying neighborhoods just as quickly as we can build them up.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      “…His first mistake was not getting the “f” out of Detroit years ago…”

      But “White flight” is racist?

      • LHathaway

        Depends how close to diversity you are, but in many cases white flight is about whites trying to avoid being victims of racism, or being victims of racism once again. In a final insult the victims of racism are then labeled the racists.

  • DiversityIsDeath

    Travesty of justice. But until Whites start to give a damn, until Whites start to organize and fight back and protest en masse like the negroes and the illegal aliens do, nothing will change. I would love to take part in a White protest but they just don’t happen.

  • Periapsis

    What bothers me about this incident is the real possibility that she might not have been alone. I think the homeowner must have thought the same thing. What is home invaders use a young woman to trick a white homeowner into opening the door so they can surprise and murder a white family? That sort of atrocity happened in my city to two young white men at the hands of four blacks. At least they were caught and sentence to life behind bars.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Pounding on doors at 4:30 AM is never a good idea.

    Opening your front door to a stranger at 4:30 AM is never a good idea.

    This woman could have been a decoy “needing to use the phone” for a home invasion.

    But… the homeowner was just taking Joe Biden’s advice about self-defense:

    “if you want to protect yourself, get a double barreled shotgun. You don’t need an AR-15. It’s harder to aim. It’s harder to use. Buy a shotgun!”

    • Cid Campeador

      Joe is positive validation of Hoffman’s Theory.

  • Mike Reade

    I understand why Mr. Wafer may have panicked. I grew up near his neighborhood, which used to be solidly Polish and working class. Within the past 20 years it has been infested with Arabs and blacks. Previous reports said Mr. Wafer was concerned about the neighborhood and feared for his life. I can understand panicking in the middle of the night in that neighborhood.

  • Luca

    This guy screwed up. My law enforcement buddy told me, “Make sure you shoot them inside your house. If you shoot them outside, drag the body inside.”

    • Ike Eichenberg

      Your buddy is a moron.
      Dragging a body inside will leave evidence behind that the crime scene techs WILL find.

      Nothing makes you look as guilty as trying to deceive the investigators.

      • evilsandmich

        Yeah can’t really mess around with that stuff. His BIG mistake was apparently talking to the cops without going through a lawyer.

      • Who Me?

        “Drag the body inside” MIGHT have worked 50 years ago. They have better forensics now.

        • Periapsis

          Indeed, that is a sure way to go to jail.

      • Cid Campeador

        Actually a cop in my town gave me that same advice. I didn’t respond.
        I couldn’t believe that he said that. I can imagine the police arriving while I’m scrubbing the perp’s blood from my front step.

        • Ike Eichenberg

          I can believe it.
          Not to disparage those who choose law enforcement as a career, but some cops are dumber than a bag of hammers.

  • Evette Coutier

    Jared once said that we need to carry ourselves with reason to convert people to race realism. Jared, I love you, but situations like this above should make you reconsider that calculus. I have held countless rational and factual conversation with people on this issue. No one converts based on facts. They become more irrational and extreme in the defense of their egos. Make no mistake, this is more about them “being right” than fact or reality. What does work is regular exposure to core emotional appeals. They can intellectual distort fact to fit their make believe world, but that doesn’t work against their feelings. Eventually, their feelings always win.

    • Ours is not the kind of cause you can talk people into, either with rhetoric erudite or emotional. People have to come to our conclusions on their own. Where Jared Taylor’s strategy pays off is that once people start becoming aware, they have somewhere credible to go where these things are discussed and debated from the neck up.

      • Evette Coutier

        I don’t agree. If people can be indoctrinated to hate themselves and their own race, the can be guided and taught otherwise. I am certainly not critical of Jared and his work. I can’t think of anyone who has done more than he, and who is the right person at the right time. In my opinion Jared is one of the great men of our times. However, true intellectualism has a limited appeal to the general population. I’m simply suggesting expanding into other markets of opportunity.

        • robinbishop34

          The maladaptive appeal of multiculturalism is of particular interest to me. People ostensibly go along with it because it is professionally or social advantageous to do so, it is not intrinsic.

          This dovetails into your point of being indoctrinated. Whites have simply come to identify with their captors. What is important is revealing the motivations and the methods in which this is done.

          • me

            Like the ‘Stockholm Syndrome’ in Stockholm….

        • LHathaway

          “I’m simply suggesting expanding into other markets of opportunity”.

          What do you mean by that?

          Reading too much into your comments (and it Is more effective when you imply something rather than come out and say it), you seem to be saying AmRen is not conservative or extreme enough?

          Honestly, I’m not sure what you mean here. Tell us if you have the time.

          I generally think AmRen is too extreme, and too unreasonable, almost as though the whole point is to turn people Off race realism. Even the name race realism turns people off, at least it does me. I’m talking here more about the comments section than anything else. The comments are often so extreme they aren’t going to convert anyone not already converted. Most readers have a least found a place where other’s are even more angry than they are.

          Likely AmRen is designed to appeal to ex-convicts, working class types, those who have been victims of racism, and the poor and unaffected among whites. No doubt those that run the site know more about me, then I know about me, and this is just another outlet where, as a reader, I’m once again being manipulated (they have to reach even us). Even we must be manipulated. Lets not pretend it’s about anything else?

          I do love reading the comments, however, and the site was a Godsend when I first stumbled upon it.

          .

          • robinbishop34

            Do you think the feelings expressed here are unreasonable and extreme, or simply their tone? In other words, do you sympathize with what is being said but wish it was said with a little more finesse?

          • LHathaway

            Yes, that is exactly right.
            What is the statement, ‘there is nothing more I hate than position I agree with being presented in slap dash manner’?
            My failure may be in that I actually imagine I understand leftists and those in the mainstream. Much of what is writing here would just send up giant alarm signals and is information they could never agree with it. Heck, some of it even defies logic or common sense.
            But come-on, these aren’t ‘positions’ were talking about. Half to 3/4ths of it is meant to control and manipulate those of us reading. Leftists. . . must. . . control. . . all. . . thoughts.
            Especially the words coming from those who are the most ‘extreme’?
            I’ve found a home, anyway. I can say this stuff. Perhaps nowhere else.
            What exactly was the person suggesting? I honestly don’t know. An appeal to sports fans, something like that?
            Personally, what I’ve suggested before is a site that adheres 100% to the rules of political correctness but advocating for whites. Heck, lets be even more politically correct than they are (of course we wont be held to the same standards). Theoretically (in some fantasy land we ourselves will create) political correctness is completely race neutral, as are terms like racism.
            Perhaps such a site would appeal to both the rich and poor. Perhaps This site appeals to those from all kinds of socio-economic backgrounds. I get the feeling, however, it’s targeted towards those they believe would cause the most trouble (the most wife-beating, lol), those more likely to be poor and also who have been victims of minority racism.
            The powers-that-be have turned us into conservatives (for their own inscrutable reasons) and now that we are they want. . well I don’t know what they want. .

          • “Likely AmRen is designed to appeal to ex-convicts, working class types, those who have been victims of racism, and the poor and unaffected among whites”

            It appears you have Amren confused with another site, perhaps stormfront or chimpout? I don’t think there is a more “genteel” race realism site to be found than here… you say some truly off the wall stuff here on occasion, but the above really takes the cake.

            (Disclaimer: I take no particular issue with the two sites I listed, but the commentary present there fits the “working class” portion of Hathaway’s ludicrous description above more often than not)

          • LHathaway

            Oh, I imagine those sites, Stormfront and ‘Chimpout’ are more controlled than this site. I haven’t read them. Controlled by the ‘well-intentioned’ of course. I imagine many folks who read that are glad they are. There are even whites out there that scare people.

            I do say plenty of off-the-wall stuff. I’m glad someone has noticed.

          • Evette Coutier

            I’m not suggesting amren become more extreme. If folks are attracted to more militant groups, there is stormfront. If you are aware of median voter theorem, you know that more extreme equals less support. I believe Jared is very insightful in his moderate approach. I am suggesting that vivid emotional appeals would expand our audience. They should not be appeals to violence or extremism. In fact we represent the exact opposite. I think we are all sickened by the senseless violence of blacks, we all want a peaceful life were we avoid lunatic extremists. I really don’t want to live next to militant Islamic extremists. I am not suggesting manipulation either. We are not dishonest. Actually, we are very honest and factual. But truth can be presented with feeling.

            I believe you are mistaken about the amren audience. You will find there are many highly educated folks here. If at times it sounds extreme, it is because of the frustrations we all feel. Moreover, this site is not manipulative in nature. It is perspective driven, but I have never seen a dishonest post here intended to distort facts for political gain.

          • LHathaway

            “If at times it sounds extreme, it is because of the frustrations we all feel”

            Are some of the posts extreme because of frustration, or are they meant to appeal to common folks, helping them feel better and that ‘something is being done’?

            There’s something to say for the idea that if we feel better about ourselves, we’ll be less likely to be unsettled. What’s sad sometimes is what has to be written in order for many of the white victims of racism feel to better about themselves?

            No, a fair amount of what is written here in the posts isn’t meant to be honest it is meant to manipulate the ‘law abiding’ folks who are disaffected enough to be addicted to this site, like me.

            Is it a conspiracy, or is a fair amount of it monkey-see, monkey-do? Or even individuals taking it upon themselves in efforts to manipulate us, thinking, it’s what is said here, surely it must be for the best?

            I copy some of the phrases used here. I think I’ve written the phrase (one I didn’t come up with myself), “words spoken by whites are taken more seriously than violence by people of color” many times over the years.

            I’ve read some of what the communists and those on the far left have to say. What is unsettling is how each individual writer more or less says the exact same thing. In a sense that is understandable being they’re living under the yoke of political correctness, and in the case of the communists, they had reason to be even physically afraid (even without the shadow of a person of color nearby). What exact force or political pressure would cause those who post here to all say the exact same things?

            Some of the comments sound almost inhuman in their baseness and cruelty. My favorite comment on that is to say, “look what they’ve turned us into”. I honestly believe that comment.

            I’m not even going to defend this site by saying, “hey, you can say anything here” because I know in the past AmRen has censored or kept out liberal posts here. At least if I said something more liberal, AmRen would delete my posts. In those days, what you wrote appeared all at once. They posted peoples comments all at once, two or three times per day, and often what you wrote wouldn’t make the cut. Going from pre-disquis days, it appeared that around 20% (or perhaps even more) of the comments were being posted by those who work for AmRen themselves, posted as just anonymous people or under different names made up by those who run the site.

            Now there is some truth. I hope my whole comment is meant to contain truth.
            Again, If I myself were running the site, I myself would likely censor to keep out ‘provacatuers’, those going on about jews, that kind of thing. I suppose there is something to be said about being completely open. . . They let me post here and these days I’m not censored at all. There is some truth or proof in pudding. . . but liberals surely must come in here all the time commenting, attempting to ‘set us straight’? I don’t know.
            I have to admit, you get something here you don’t get anyplace else . You also get (not often enough) personal stories one can relate to and you come to realize you are not alone.

          • Evette Coutier

            I can’t and evil not attempt to speak for the motivations of people who post here or who edit commentary. My observations are different. There us to be a guy here called Sparatus, and he posted comments that militant to say the least. They kicked from the site because of it. I really enjoyed his posts, not because I agreed with him, but his blunt commentary was refreshingly honest. He said what he meant without the filters of political correctness. I am not concerned with the motivations and agenda of other posters. I do think it is important to communicate with others and share ideas. I’d point out that many times I’ve taken heat for not saying what is popular here, and not been censored for doing so. The criteria is not blind agreement. The requirement is civil discourse. In fact the people here are about the most honest I’ve run into on blogs. By definition I don’t think you can call the people here common folk. This is a fairly intellectual, very informed, website for race realists. There’s not a whole lot of people right now who fit that demographic. In fact I don’t think it is well marketed to the average guy on the street. There are too many articles on international race issues and genetics to appeal to that market. I personally think the term race realist is not good at all in terms of marketing.

            We are not alone in our plight. I regularly post very honest statements on other sites about race and frequently get a lot of thumbs up. My hope is to keep race reality alive and public so more in the closet realists will get the courage to come out into the mainstream. If we are to win we cannot hide. We must be seen not as extremist, but as everyday, decent, reasonable people who are dealing with the reality of our situation. We cannot continue to allow ourselves to be negatively branded.

          • LHathaway

            Who was the guy with the Romulan commander (from star trek) on this avatar? This guy wasn’t named Spartacus.

            Anyway, I loved reading the guy. His comments, combined with his photo made it a lot of fun. He was often pretty extreme but it was funny to read his comments. It helped that I remember the character from the old TV show pretty well. I would actually ‘hear’ is comments in the voice of the old actor.
            I assume he was someone very familiar with Roman customs and manners of speaking (it was said the Romulans on the TV show were said to represent, in a sense Romans) . This guy would post all of his comments ‘in character’. Sometimes, on some occasion, his comments were informative.
            He was often pretty extreme. While he was humorous to me random visitors may found it very off-putting. I don’t know.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        The problem with converting mentally ill people over to your cause is that they are still mentally ill. Another shocking piece of reality is that most Americans want a free ride. This includes the white Christian Republicans, and not just lazy blacks. Once you have made up the bed nice and comfortable, and arranged everything in the room to their satisfaction, the lazy white christian republican may decide to lie down in the bed you created. I am as sick and tired of taking care of white republican retards as I am of taking care of blacks. The benefit of dealing with blacks is that you know from sight that you are dealing with blacks. With white republitards you have to waste your time with them before you realize you wasted your time with them.

        .

        • Periapsis

          There is no converting the mentally ill, there is only treating them as they should be. Namely as dangerous enemies who are not worth the effort to convert.

      • anony

        I make a distinction between “true believers” who may also be intellectually gifted, and the simply intellectual.

        I find that time is wasted on the “true believers” whether they’re intellectual or not; their belief structure is hardened into a religious conviction and facts are indeed wasted on them.

        Intelligent people of the multi-cultural persuasion, on the other hand, who are honest with you, can be swayed by facts. It may take some time for them to admit they have been persuaded, but they will eventually come around.

  • Tarczan

    I would venture though, that this guys nerves were frazzled by living with darkies. I bet he had many similar experiences and he was at wits end. He probably talked all the time about how he couldn’t stand his neighborhood, how he was treated, and how tired he was of the constant stress from living in the area. He should have used the “afronesia” defense, that living with all the darkies drove him to insanity.

    I’ll bet that actually isn’t to far from the truth. How’d you like to have drunk darkies pounding on your door night after night? You know there was a lot that led up to this.

    • Periapsis

      You could be right. If this was indeed the case, why wasn’t that considered during the trial? It seems blacks do indeed like pushing whites to the edge, like another troublesome bunch, then punish them when they finally snap.

      • Neue Sachlichkeit

        Perhaps because even daring to THINK that blacks would do this would be rayciss?

  • Mason Gull

    It sounds to me like he admitted to being in the wrong and accepted the justice of his sentence. I’m not sure what the problem is.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I think he was giving them the PC answer they were looking for. And it backfired. Probably on the advice of his attorney. God only knows what he wanted, and would have said, if this had been the America that once existed, and not Marxist Ameri-stan. Even a person who made a mistake, as he did, can apologize to a victim’s family. There are laws on the books that a person isn’t responsible for their actions when first awakening, for a very brief period of time. That defense might have applied here. As well as the hyper-vigilant state Detroit residents are regularly in. This is a PC travesty. Judges like this one will be sent to the camps when the revolution comes.

      • LHathaway

        “Judges like this one will be sent to the camps when the revolution comes”
        For sentencing a murdering to prison? You could be right, though, there will come a reckoning. I pray to God there will be. Justice demands it. It could truly be one of the few things I live to see. The irony being it’s very unlikely I’ll live long enough to see it.
        The reckoning, justice, revenge: it won’t happen until we have our own country. Unfortunately, we will need them until we do. As our numbers decrease, we’ll need nearly all whites to show up and have their votes counted.
        We won’t be sending them to camps, I don’t think. We’ll kick them out of the country. It will probably be a small number of them, I would imagine. Maybe a thousand. Maybe 10,000. A small number, probably, making 60 million or so whites feel better. Time and time again, history records just is meted out. It’s always about justice. As I’ve said many times before, we will collect them, brand them, and place them outside our borders. Perhaps my AmRen comment was 3 paragraphs too long and I should have just said that, those 12 short words.

        • robinbishop34

          Imagine if we just let natural selection work its magic.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Do unto others as they would do, and have done, unto you.

          That is the lesson we’ve learned. Now let’s do it.

          The siege mentality alone in Detroit should have been a suitable mitigating circumstance. This judge is sacrificing him on the grievance industry altar.

          • Laika

            Do unto others before they undo you

            You can bet every other race and ethnic group feels this way.

            It is our unfortunate compassion for others that has been our undoing, and has been exploited by our enemies to use against us.

            I don’t know how anybody else here feels, but my compassion for others is long gone.

          • Periapsis

            I have none, and never did since I was a teenager.

          • Who Me?

            I think when we do form a new, White homeland, that is the time we DON’T do unto them out of vengeance. At that time we will have won. We will be separate from them them. They won’t be living among us. That is the time to stop. Don’t mess with them. They can no longer harm us, so further bloodshed would simply be evil on our side at that point. Just make sure they are never allowed to infiltrate our neighborhoods and schools again, don’t dwell on vengeance. That is what they do, dwell on vengeance for sins committed (supposedly) by people long dead. We are better than that.

  • Bobbala

    At least the judge won’t have to worry about being called a racist … Naaah.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    If that woman was pounding on my door at 4:30am, I would be scared poopless.

    .

    • AndrewInterrupted

      In Detroit, no less. I would have touched off a Claymore for safety’s sake.

  • bilderbuster

    The Blacks who stomped the White landscaper who stopped when he hit the Black kid with his truck and stopped to help didn’t get 17 years.
    He didn’t die no thanks to them but they will commit more crimes.

  • Paleoconn

    In the joint, he’s gonna have no choice but to open up for some blacks. Unfortunately, when people are forced to live in fear, stuff like this happens to poor chaps like Wafer. Black crime caused this even if that girl was innocent. Still, she shouldn’t have been knocking on doors at 4:30am.

    • Magician

      She should not have been knocking on a random door, but if I had been the homeowner, I would have offered to call for a cop to come and give her a hand if necessary, while keeping the door locked. That could have kept the homeowner out of any possible legal trouble and also made sure she received any necessary help.

      • IstvanIN

        A drunken 19 year old black female banging on my door at 4:30 in the morning would scare the heck out of me. He should have gotten off for self-defense. How was he to know she wasn’t a thug or had her thug boyfriend with her? A black guy got off for killing a White teen who was simply walking towards him because the black felt threatened. Sorry, I don’t recall the exact story but it took place in a suburban neighborhood. In fact there was a black journalist he killed a White teen who jumped his fence and got away with it some years back and believe that was in Washington, DC.

        • Douglas Quaid

          I agree, someone is screaming and kicking at his door at 4am, and he is expected to try to decipher her rantings and discern that she is in need of help? That drunken idiot wastrel ruined this man’s life, this was hardly murder, manslaughter at worst.

          • Neue Sachlichkeit

            I find it hard to understand them when they are supposedly utterly sober and at my workplace shrieking for me to do their jobs. I have no idea how this poor gentleman must have interpreted this……oh wait, I see exactly how he interpreted this. Sigh.

        • Neue Sachlichkeit

          I foolishly thought the issue was whether you FEARED for your life, not whether a dozen or so programmed morons AGREED with you. Nice country. So glad to be stuck inside it.

  • Magician

    This judge could also have been mentally pressured to give out a lengthy sentence because of the recent Michael Brown shooting.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      No doubt. Riot control. Just like the cops did when those Blacks shot that Australian jogger. That put words in the yoofs’ mouths along the lines of “we dis it because we were bored”.

      • Magician

        and the ones who murdered Eve Carson murdered her because they wanted to steal some cash from Eve.

        • Laika

          The ones who murdered Eve Carson murdered her because they wanted to murder a White.

  • You can shoot through the front door in Colorado, but most of us don’t want to.

    • Ngati Pakeha

      Doors are just too damn expensive Michael 😉

  • Magician

    Both of the two murderers who ended Eve Carson’s lives received life with no chance of a parole

    DeMarquis Elkins, who fired at one year old baby in the face and ended the baby’s life right in front of the baby’s mother, also received life with no chance of a parole. Elkins was 17 when he murdered the baby.

    The defence attorneys for Elkins said, “Life without parole for a juvenile is unusually cruel”

    ….. and firing at one year old baby and killing the baby right in front of the baby’s mother is not “unusually cruel”?

    Sometimes, when I read what lawyers say, I wonder how such morons became a lawyer which must have taken them more than ten years in school

    • Neue Sachlichkeit

      Nothing human would be capable of shooting at AN INFANT. From any race, OF any race.

      (IN THE FACE???) (I am literally gagging) (and failing not to think of my exquisite niece)

      Where has reason and sense gone?

      Oh, right. Applying those is apparently unusually cruel. And oh, right, I’m presuming a society in which most members possess the ability to engage in both of the above.

      Well, let me be FAR FROM THE first to offer to work any job that requires this kind of unusual cruelty.

      I am glad of this outcome, but the comments around it indicate this is the OPPOSITE of the outcome They would prefer, and I suspect in the future such an outcome would be an anomaly, not the expected correct result.

      Magician, I wish you were correct about the lawyers being morons, and I agree in the larger sense that they are, but I am sadly afraid that they are NOT ignorant of what they are doing, and have chosen to do exactly that for the resulting large paychecks.

      • Laika

        Look, blacks are in the streets loudly calling for the killing of White babies.

        “New Black Panther’s: We Need to Kill White Babies by Bombing Nurseries”

        “After New Black Panthers calling for the killing of white babies, more shocking audio from the group’s radio program has now surfaced…they play a shocking segment from Khalid Muhammad, a former spokesman for Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam. In it, he advocates extreme violence against white people in general, and specifically gays, lesbians, babies, and women.”

        Hear about this in the media? Neither did I.

        Blacks are indoctrinated from birth that Whites have done them great harm and are responsible for all of their failures.

        In light of what the brainwashing has done to their pea brains, the killing of a White, or any other baby, makes sense.

        • Periapsis

          This constitutes terrorism and genocide, which will give us every moral right to return the favor. The families of these fiends will be the first to be executed.

        • Cid Campeador

          While King Samir Shabaaz of the NBPP stood on a street corner and went on his rant calling for Genocide and Infanticide against Whites, the Philly PD sat in their vehicles and did nothing.
          Did anyone see his You Tube videos in which he discussed ways of killing newborn White babies in their hospital nurseries?
          When ISIS tells us they’re going to kill us our media freak out yet there was a deafening silence when Shabazz did his act.

        • Neue Sachlichkeit

          How I wish I did not utterly agree with you, Laika, about the Black Panthers. I did not know all of that. I am only a few years awake, and not very social as you will see why below, though I try to listen and learn.

          I am a gay man. I know that is not viewed favorably here, but I am indeed a White man above all else, and I think we need to band together right now and hash this mess out later, because there are far worse threats than whether the community likes my choice of dates. I agree with every major point made on this site, EXCEPT the majority of those about GLBTQI whatever people.

          I find the majority of GLBTQI whatever it is this week, stupid social justice warriors who want ridiculous things and do NOT speak for me. And I utterly do not blame most people in this movement for feeling negatively towards that. I do too!

          But we, meaning “queer” Whites, have nowhere to speak. I suspect this is not the place to speak, but I’m going to try, because I love my race and I want it to thrive, survive, and frankly WIN. In my mind, “winning” is colonizing space, thus letting our survival forever go on even if Earth does not.

          And that is kind of my……….point, in being here. I personally think that WHITE should at this desperate point, be the defining quality. Yes, you don’t like my romantic attractions…………but am I throwing diapers in the street? Playing the knockout game with straight people? Sucking up welfare? I have NEVER ever received any penny of welfare, and I’ve been in a place where I really NEEDED it more than a few times. I did not qualify. Why? Because to them, I was a Single White Male, and deserved nothing. I did not persist in OH BUT I AM GAY. It might have benefited me if I had, but I did not. I was too disgusted with how much money I gave you idiots and how little help I really needed. Never mind, I’ll just pawn more of my personal belongings, until I somehow find a job that doesn’t prefer EVERYONE over me.

          I like the idea of “separatism” and am fine with living in just-queer neighborhoods. I’d kind of like that, actually. Everybody could relax a little.

          This may get deleted or even get me banned. I will accept that, though very sadly. If that happens, I wish you all and Amren well.

          I understand and accept that many here dislike this, but I have persisted in trying to post here because I love my race and long to support it in any way I can.

          You are dead on, Laika, about the indoctrination, but I think you may also be essentially supporting what I said: Nothing human would do this. THIS IS A BABY. I respect animals, but there comes a point where you draw a line between human and animal, and WILLFULLY KILLING AN INFANT, is animal behavior in my opinion.

          I can grasp war, and would sometimes almost “like” one……….but civilians? Women? Children? This is the behavior of savages, cowards, animals.

      • Magician

        If you want to read more about the crime and the trial, and view the photos of the criminal and the photo of the baby’s mother, go to this page

        nydailynews[dot]com/news/crime/teen-sentenced-life-prison-killing-baby-stroller-article-1.1454299

        Replace [dot] with an actual dot

        I am sure you have heard of the “knockout game”

        An 18 year old black male named Jesse Smithers who murdered a 20 year old white male by playing the knockout game, received 10 years.

        goo[dot]gl/IEEW9F

        I feel this Detroit white homeowner’s defence attorney could have done a better job. I do not see how the shooting of a young black woman deserves 7 more years than the knockout game who ended a 20 year old white man’s life. We can see that young black men do not need a weapon to end someone’s life. And the Detroit homeowner did have very valid reason to have felt threatened, but Jesse Smithers did not have any reason to be threatened. The fatal attack by Jesse Smithers was unprovoked

        But as already stated, the judge must have been mentally pressured to give out a long sentence because of the recent Michael Brown riots.

        Officer Wilson as well as all experienced police officers must also know very well that young black men do not need a weapon to end someone’s life. And if a 6’4” 290 lbs young black male who just punched him in the eye socket and had made an attempt to seize the gun from the officer one minute ago is running right at him….

        • Periapsis

          One hopes he will get an appeal, or even his conviction overturned. This sentence is unjust, no matter what he did or didn’t do, he was not looking to kill someone. IN his shoes, I would have thought someone was intent on killing me or my mother.

    • Laika

      Judges are far worse because they have far more power, including all the way up to SCOTUS, which is hanging on by a single vote.

      Remember the Carr brothers of Wichita Massacre infame?

      The Kansas Supreme Court overturned the death sentences of two brothers convicted of killing four friends who were robbed and forced to engage in sex acts before being shot to death and left in a snow-covered Wichita field.

      The court also struck down three of the four capital murder convictions each against Jonathan and Reginald Carr, citing procedural problems at the brothers’ joint trial for its decisions. It upheld one capital murder conviction for each of them.

      Both of these beasts should have been tortured and then executed 10 years ago.

  • IstvanIN

    Like the poor pharmacist.

  • IstvanIN

    He should have called the cops and waited until she broke the door down and then shot her but it is hard to be rational when you are first coming awake by violent pounding at your front door. The sentence is a travesty.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    “….shot McBride–who was found to be extremely drunk…”

    • Cid Campeador

      Being drunk is not punishable by death sentence if all one does is knock on a door.She needed help, not a round.
      Same with the girl in DC shot by the police after driving irresponsibly around the White House especially with a baby in the back seat.

      • me

        The ‘tragedies’ you speak of are a result of Negro dysfunction, not White racism. Get educated on Negro crime, and it will all become apparent to you as to the cause and results. Negro dysfunction and racism is the result of Negro death.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        If I were living in a war zone like Detroit and decided to beat on someone’s door at 4 in the morning, I would expect to be shot. Must be an IQ thing.

        • Magician

          This woman was badly drunk

  • Grantland

    We’re going to need to burn a lot of witches.

    • Laika

      We just need to make sure the right ones are targeted first, and they aren’t black.

  • How white convicts tolerate the noise black convicts must make
    in the course of daily confinement must put cotton balls at a premium.

    • Neue Sachlichkeit

      Based on a dear and decent White friend who committed no violent crime to be imprisoned: they don’t tolerate it. They basically go insane. Not sleeping for YEARS kind of wears on your cognition, apparently.

    • Periapsis

      Seems the relatives of white convicts ought to send ear plugs. Blacks and browns do indeed sound like a jungle cacophony to me for one simple reason, they were born without a volume control. You know they are loudmouthed cretins when I can hear them clearly over very loud power tools, and I have damaged hearing already.

  • Douglas Quaid

    No sensible person goes and pounds on the doors of complete strangers at that hour of night, which led to Wafer’s reacting as though he was not dealing with a person he could reason with. At worst this should have been manslaughter, he didn’t seek to kill anyone he thought he was defending his house from an invader. That drunken good for nothing low-life “Reneesha” in her idiotic bender ruined this man’s life.

    • Ultimate187

      Someone in a legitimate emergency might pound on doors looking for help. It has nothing to do with being sensible or not. Of course, her being drunk clearly didn’t help her cause.

      • Douglas Quaid

        The only scenario I can think of where it may be sensible to scream and pound on a stranger’s door at 4am would be imminent peril, a knife wielding maniac is chasing you down or something of that nature. In “Renisha’s” case the rational course of action is to simply wait by your vehicle, assuming you have no phone, for help.

        Manslaughter charges for Wafer make sense to me, not murder, not 17 years, that’s insane. For my part this case serves as another compelling reason for why I plan to move as far away from any sizeable black population as possible. I don’t want to get “Wafered”.

        • Laika

          This is why it’s imperative to keep your cell phone with you at all times, charged and ready in case of emergency. AFAIC, it’s the primary purpose of having a cell phone in the first place.

    • Tim

      I borrowed my buddys truck then set it on fire while pouring gas in the engine to get it out of the middle of an intersection. I pounded on the nearest door at 10;00pm than ran back and put it out with my shirt when I realized no one was coming…

    • MooTieFighter

      It is a sad story. We mix like oil and water. I don’t understand their behavior and they don’t understand mine.

      • anony

        And that’s exactly why we need to live separately from them.

        Forced integration was a crime against Whites.

  • Douglas Quaid

    The more I think about this case the more it bothers me, Wafer needs a medal not a jail cell, that low life sack of excrement got exactly what any rational person would expect. All the stories I’ve read assume she was there asking for help, in reality we don’t know what was going through what passes for her mind when she showed up.

    There were a few other stories very similar to this one that happened in the last couple of years, they all follow this same template: 1. Wild black (heretofore referred to as “WB”) wrecks their car at some ungodly hour of the night, 2. “WB” extracts their rotund torso out of said car. 3. “WB” proceeds to walk to an unknown home and pound and yell on the door fightening the homeowners. 4. “WB” is either shot by homeowner or police who arrive. 5. Idiots in the media label this scenario as being indicative of widespread racism, because we all know that if “Renisha” was white she wouldn’t have been shot. Which is true, because if she was white she would have had enough sense to not go pounding and yelling at the doors of strangers at 3am.

    • The thing I can’t understand is that blacks using decoys to get whites to stop in the road or open their doors, leading to the roadside murder or home invasion of the whites, is a pretty established practice in many parts of the country. If you live in these areas, no matter how liberal, you KNOW not to pull over for the black waving his t shirt at the side of the road, you KNOW not to open your door when a black is outside crying for help.

      I don’t know Detroit, but I can only imagine using a decoy for a home invasion is common practice there, or at least a known tactic. That fact alone should have been enough to exonerate him, if it was the case.

      • Tim

        We had a case in my city where the Dad used his own daughter to trick the young girls teacher into opening the door for rape and robbery…

      • Laika

        Look what just happened in Detroit on Monday, Sept., 3nd:

        Police: Man, (black) 69, kills man (White), 43, in road rage incident in Genoa Twp.

        The White man was on his way to pick up his kids after their first day of school. Unfortunately, the White male foolishly got out of his car to confront the black for driving erratically and almost hitting him. Black rolled down the window and shot the White dead. He’s in jail now but most likely not for long, he’ll claim he was called a n****, which will justify his use of deadly force against a White racist.

        Lesson learned: Don’t get out of your car to confront others in their cars (ask Kevin Ward how THAT turned out for him). Don’t open your door to enraged blacks at 2:30 AM.

    • Laika

      I too thought the “needing help” was a ruse. I wondered if a few homies were hiding in the bushes ready to jump out the second the White homeowner opened the door.

      Is there any doubt that almost all Whites feel far more threatened by a black than they would by a White? especially in Detroit.

      • Periapsis

        It’s exactly that, no matter what the race of the individual or individuals, More than once someone was in front of my house during the wee hours of the morning, never knowing I was waiting with a gun. Had they tried that, they would have made the last, and worst mistake of their lives.

  • ATBOTL

    “He first suggested to police that it was an accident but later admitted to intentionally pulling the trigger.”

    Never admit anything.

    • Laika

      I couldn’t agree more. I would have added that the person threatened me personally and called me a White MFer, just as blacks always claim they were forced to stomp their White victims to death after they were called n*****.

  • Ultimate187

    If you own a gun, make sure you know how to use it and under what circumstances. Know if it’s loaded or not. This guy panicked. Even if the victim wasn’t black, he would have shot anyways given his state of mind. I think the judge was genuinely sympathetic to him, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s in the wrong.

    • Laika

      As it was put to me in a gun training class: Become so comfortable with your gun that when there is a threat, all of your concentration is on the situation at hand, not the gun.

    • kikz2

      …loaded? a gun is always loaded.

  • robinbishop34

    For whom the bell tolls.

  • TonyWestfield

    Judging by the photo, at first glance I might have thought she was a he. Wonder if this would have made a difference in terms of the homeowner “feeling threatened.”

    The next new twist is going to be a homeowner/resident who plays it safe at 3 o’clock in the morning and doesn’t open the door. The person outside who is shouting and pounding on the door really is in distress, being beaten by some perp(s). Eric Holder swoops in to accuse the homeowner/resident of civil rights crimes for ignoring the ruckus…because the homeowner/resident is racist.

    • robinbishop34

      Realism 101

    • Laika

      Anyone pounding on my door at 2:30 AM can ask my rottweiler and pitbull whatever it is they need to ask at my house. I’m not a racist but my dogs are.

  • nBmnp

    No, this is not just rooted in “people’s concerns”, it is a consequence of lifelong brainwashing and training.

    Just turn up ANY crime program on TV. The murderer will in practically all cases be what can be described as “the class enemy”: A white, middle-aged, well-off man who usually has no prior convictions. Some characteristics may be changed (for example sometimes a white, middle-aged, well-off woman may be the murderer – or a white young man, etc.) but the basic “profile” is confirmed over and over and over.

    When people are brought up with the TV, they may consciously know crime statistics, but deep in the unconscious they see whites as evil people, because they have (literally) seen them commit evil deeds thousands of times.

    It is brainwashing.

    • Orion_Blue

      The question I have is this: Who on Earth would infiltrate the principal entertainment infrastructure (UK as well as North America) in the form of popular cinema and television, in order to promulgate an anti-White, anti-Male message that seeks to condemn those who made the civilisation as wel is the intellectual, philosophical and ethical framework that sustains Eusropean and North American civilisation possible?

  • Neue Sachlichkeit

    Wisdom resides above this grateful reply.

  • Neue Sachlichkeit

    It might also be a thing certain populations would celebrate victory for instilling…

  • I can’t say if I would have not capped on someone banging on my door . . . . that’s very threatening and if they had weapons ,one would have to be foolish to remain in the kill zone from bullets coming thru doors and glass . . I would have given one warning shot . . .but the following shots would have found their mark, and that’s the way I see it in darkville.

    • MooTieFighter

      I imagine she was screaming and acting absolutely maniacal. Can you imagine suddenly hearing that at your door one night?

    • Periapsis

      No, NEVER fire a warning shot, nor should you rack the slide or otherwise reveal your location. Let them find out where you are when your shots strikes them in their faces and kills them. That is why I keep weapons loaded with a round in the pipe, I do not have children around so there’s no danger of them getting a hold of them, Warning shots get you killed, or jailed.

      • robinbishop34

        “Rack the slide…” sounds like a porno movie.

        • Periapsis

          Racking the slide will alert an attacker where you are, and thus that will get you killed. Let them find out where you are, at the cost of their lives.

  • Laika

    At least she won’t get wasted and drive drunk again.

  • Demo P. Seal; PouponMarks

    What’s next? You have to shoot an intruder in the bedroom, not the living room or kitchen? Because, you know, they were not a threat YET. Until they take a swipe at you with a knife or point a gun (and it better be a gun, not a cell phone, in near darkness), can you finally act to protect your life?

    What was the composition of the jury? A jury of Blacks, a jury of “his peers”? More likely a jury of his inferiors, much low IQ, unemployed, uneducated, and no underwear.

    • david dorian

      Yes. Exactly

  • tancred guiscard

    I cant understand most black people’s words when they are sober. Its like they are arent even trying to enunciate.

  • Laika

    Must be those new targets with Whites on them that the Dept. of Homeland Security is using and distributing.

  • Laika

    The U.S. government lists Arabs as “White.”

    • Who Me?

      Also Mestizos–Remember the latest famous “White Hispanic” in the news? He ALMOST paid the “White penalty” just for looking somewhat “White”.

      • me

        Indeed!

    • Orion_Blue

      Indeed. It is one way of tricking the dolts into thinking that the White Race is not being rubbed out by the teeming hordes of third world types.

      Scary. Very scary.

  • Ringo Lennon

    Is this guy white?

  • MooTieFighter

    You ever seen a hysterical, drunk black woman? They do not act human. Hate it for the guy. He broke the golden rule; however, she was not “in” his house. Have you noticed all the “poor blacks” that cry foul put themselves in these situations, to start with. Rob a store, drive drunk, punch a cop, etc… etc…. Let me know when it was REALLY a black minding their own business, not breaking the law to start with.

  • JohnEngelman

    The judge had to give him a long sentence to keep the blacks from rioting.

  • brior

    White supremacism is the belief, or promotion of the belief, that white people are superior to people of other racial backgrounds and that therefore whites should politically, economically and socially dominate non-whites. …. Now here is the same source … Black supremacy is the belief of, and/or promotion of the belief, that Black people are superior to people of other racial backgrounds and that therefore Blacks should politically dominate non-Blacks. … Bias?

  • Usually Much Calmer

    “Experimental Criminology”?

    • anony

      Well, when “experimental” is used, it gives the study more heft.

      That works the same way it works to give some cheap perfume an exotic sounding French name.

      Millions have been made doing that.

  • scutum

    This type of thing is a huge problem. you dare not shoot a protected species unless they actually break into your home or your car. (in my state the castle doctrine includes your automobile) The result is that they feel, and actually are, entitled to act any way they wish. I can guarantee you that if we started taking some of these characters out, their behavior would change. The reason we can’t that is because our politicians have been bought and paid for by the big banks and corporations whose only concern is what’s good (or bad) for business. Since riots are bad for business, and profits, they will go to any lengths to oppress the white population to keep them from fighting back. In the eyes of the elites we are all just interchangeable economic units. The only thing that differentiates us in their eyes is whether we are at any given moment, a producer or a consumer. Our political and economic elites hold us in contempt, and like the European royalty of centuries past, have more in common with the elites of foreign nations than with their own citizens and race.

    • Jack Burton

      Look, it’s a simple case of some jackass with a gun who either accidentally shot her or is some kind of a psychopath.

      I have never in my life been threatened by a black woman. Are they irritating? Very much so. Do I feel like they threaten my life even when they’re yelling and going nuts? No. Now, what you do have to be wary of is if there’s a black male that she is working with who is hiding nearby and ready to pounce on you. Otherwise, there is no reason to shoot her.

      By law you cannot gun down people outside of your house, even if they’re on your property. This is not the Wild West. Home invasion? Yes, fire away. Knocking on your door at night asking to use the phone? No. Call the cops.

  • Jack Burton

    Simple case of a idiot who owns a gun and made a serious mistake.

    Lots of people shoot themselves or others by accident.

    Recently a little girl was at a gun range and accidentally killed the instructor from recoil.

    • Nancy

      You’re kidding! Where?

    • Cid Campeador

      That was negligence on the part of the father of that child. The instructor RIP used bad judgement. A little girl of that age doesn’t need to fire an Uzi; especially at “Full Auto”.

      • Periapsis

        Indeed, another child died when the Uzi he fired recoiled the same way it recoiled when the girl fired it. The weapon fired bullets right through his head, killing him instantly.

  • Cid Campeador

    I made a comment that was deleted. I said nothing that violated any of the rules.

    I questioned the judgement of the man who shot the girl. She was on the other side of the door. All he had to do was to request that she wait on the porch/ front step then close the door while he called for help.
    I also understand the paranoia that’s triggered among White residents of neighborhoods especially in or around Detroit that are surrounded or taken over by Blacks who commit the lion’s share of the violent crimes.

    • me

      You can’t understand the ‘judgment’ of a man who’s White, and living in an anti-White society, who has a crazy Negro violating his personal and sovereign domain at four in the morning? Oh, brother….

      • Cid Campeador

        me,
        ¡¡¡Joo forgot to read deh lahs paragraf ese!!!
        Para español marque el número nueve.

        • me

          I’m not your ese, pendeho.

    • Who Me?

      Kitty Genovese was murdered in 1964. It was a different world then.

  • Cid Campeador

    I also agree.

  • ElComadreja

    The cops will side with the black every time. They’re part of the problem.

    • Texan1st

      Your first sentence is simply not true. Demographics of prison populations prove you wrong. SOMEONE had to put the handcuffs on all those blacks that ended up in prison. If not those cops that you say “will side with the black every time”, then who arrested them? Your second sentence is an overgeneralization. What do you mean when you say cops are “part of the problem”? Are you referring to upper management or the beat cops that are tasked with confronting those like Michael Brown face to face? Are you suggesting the mindset of cops in San Francisco are identical to cops in Texas? FYI, cops in Texas are overwhelmingly pro-2nd Amendment, lifetime NRA members, and aren’t concerned at all that law-abiding citizens are armed. In fact, they encourage it. And probably agree with much of what is written here on American Renaissance. So before tossing out anti-cop rhetoric and generalizations, consider the possibility that you may be alienating a large swath of potential allies by doing so. Allies that are adept at confronting minority criminals. Fore as fed up as you are about black (and brown) criminality, how do you think white cops feel that must deal with it up close and personal on a daily basis?

      • ElComadreja

        I can’t speak for Texas. I understand things aren’t as far gone there as most of the US. I’ll stand by what I said as it pertains to cops here in the northeast. In a personal beef involving blacks and whites they’ll take the side of the blacks automatically. All one of them has to say is “he cawl me a ni**er” and you’re guilty till proven innocent.

  • Michigan Patriot

    If the races were reversed; the homeownher would have gotten a ” slap on the wrist “; more proof of self-destructing American over diverse races dominating every layer of society.

  • me

    “How dare you duck when I throw things at you, White man!” OR
    “How DARE you fight for your life, White man!” OR
    “Whitey done attak me fo nuffins! He raaaycis’ an’ sheet!” OR
    “Mah baby! He din’ do nuffins’! The popo be raaaycis’ an sheet! He a good boy! He be cleanin’ up his ak and comin’ a rapper an’ sheet! Dey din’ hafta kills him! Oh, Lordy Jeebus, WHY da evil Whitey do dis thing?! Why! Now, where’s my financial rep’rations?”
    Commence media lies and bias, anti-White racism, looting, arson, and rioting…

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Nice grasp of Ebonics there.

      At least they didn’t name the kid L’Genius Wisdom (IrishGirl).

  • Unless they’re in season.

  • From what I know of the case, the man should NOT have shot her. But given the environment of fear and persecution that he lived in, he should have received a much lighter sentence.

  • Paul

    I don’t quite understand the comments. Normally I’m one of the more extreme ones on this site and have even had comments deleted. But you can’t shoot an unarmed person in the face through a security screen. I’m sorry.

    • Periapsis

      Apparently, you can if you are black, and the victim’s white, and get away with it. But when the reverse applies, not so.

    • robinbishop34

      If only that courtesy was extended to you. That is the point of this and the Ferguson story.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      There are several good points made here, one of which is White flight. But, the MUGgers (Minority Underlying Government) in Washington, DC have come up with a counter-attack for White flight: HUD vouchers.

      Now when you escape those under-evolved creatures, they follow you–and you pay their rent with your tax dollars. The HUD voucher counter-attack (likely concocted by the tribe in DC think-tanks) will be the final straw leading to armed conflict, IMO.

      Had White flight remained a viable option, western civilization might have limped along for a few more decades. Now I think the revolution will occur within a decade. Maybe a peaceful one, with emboldened Republicans, after Obama Bin Laden’s overt anti-American behavior sinks in. Hard to say.

      The prospect of the armed conflict version of revolution is why the MUGgers jump at every opportunity to disarm us.

  • Douglas Quaid

    Any time someone ends an argument with “period” it is immediately launches out of the category of rational discussion and into realm of arbitrary pontification. Period.

  • Guest

    If by any chance he is gay, he should say, When he opened the door, she called him “f*g”

  • MoMo

    This man doesn’t look white to me.

    MoMo

  • Orion_Blue

    The clue here is in ‘historically oppressed’, whatever that is supposed to mean. I would guess it means in history, which by extension, means not today, folks.

    The management of incompatible, indolent undesirables implies a degree of rigorous control, just to prevent a contaminant of anti-Cultural values being able to gain the ascendant.

    Unfortunately today, the degenerate is in the ascendant and the fishy-whiffies are actually colluding with this benighted dystopia.

  • Mark Kaster Witha K

    Very familiar with this area of “Dearborn Heights”, which is basically a far west Detroit neighborhood, right next to my home – Brightmoor, and the area known as “Warrendale”. One theory is that Wafer actually knew this girl, that she was, ummmm, you know… some would say prostitute. But it’s not as simple as that. Anyway, that’s why she ended up on HIS front porch. Assuming that this is actually the fact of the matter, well, then there would be absolutely no point whatsoever in bringing this up in a murder trial. The defense tried to have the girls facebook and text messaging admitted as evidence and the Judge denied that request multiple times. Under the circumstances she was in, and any reasonable, even if smash drunk, person would be banging on vary many doors in the neighborhood if she were truly looking for help. But no. She went directly to Wafer’s and would not leave. They had a falling out. He owed her money or something.

    I really do not buy into much of what the media has reported as fact. Very, very little. But in keeping with the law, media must be extremely careful about reporting facts and doing in-depth investigation. In this case, whether my theory is totally correct or totally bass ackwards, the Wayne County Prosecutor, Kym Worthy, had complete and total control from the very first. There was no way that this guy was going to receive any sort of leniency from the court.

    To close: It is mostly accepted that race was not a factor. In the committing of the actual crime, no, I don’t believe race was a factor. However, in the sentencing – DEFINITELY AND WITHOUT A DOUBT race was the major factor. And it has sent a very strong message to the whites in and around Detroit.