Ferguson: A Police Officer’s Perspective

Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, September 2, 2014

Jared Taylor interviews officer John Sullivan for AR’s inaugural podcast.

For some time, readers have suggested that we make podcasts, and this is our first. Please let us know if you like this one and think we should produce more.

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Jared Taylor
Jared Taylor is the editor of American Renaissance and the author of White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century.
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  • shatwood

    I haven’t even clicked play yet and I’m already going to tell you, Produce MORE podcasts!

    Jared probably doesn’t have the time to make a weekly video, but a weekly podcast would be appreciated.

  • nasedo

    This is a wonderful addition to this site, I hope there will be a daily podcast at some point soon.

  • Christorchaos

    Anyone know how to bring this into the IOS environment?

    • HenryWWolff

      We hope to have the podcasts on iTunes soon. In the meantime, you can download the file and import it into iTunes.

      • Christorchaos

        And how do you download it please?

        • Dave In Guelph

          Click the blue button that says “download” on the embed player above.

          • DaveMed

            Thanks! Will make tomorrow morning’s drive very pleasant.

        • sbuffalonative

          If you click on the podcast player, a full screen will come up.

          On the bottom left, is a button titled ‘download episode’.

  • KevinPhillipsBong

    Thank you for this. A very enjoyable and informative development for our side. Mo’ betta!

  • I prefer to read, but I listen to podcasts and videos in the background while I read. Interviews like this can lead to surprise bits and pieces of truth that don’t come out any other way. Thus, keep posting the podcasts.

  • sbuffalonative

    Congratulations on the Inaugural Pod Cast.

    I’ve been recommending them for AR for years.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I would like to see (hear) a John Derbyshire-type (Radio Derb) weekend wrap-up show, too. I listen to Radio Derb every weekend. He’s been on vacation all month.

      Jared has the voice for it.

  • James Gatlin

    The truth is black people are natural born racist

    • Sick of it

      No no, natural born killers.

      • cherrie greenbaum123

        I’m going to write a black children’s story entitled, “The Gentle Giant of St. Louis Who Din Doo Nuffins”.

        • Whitetrashgang

          Michael, who went to the store and found himself a victim of a strong arm robbery flagged down the Police, and was immediately shot for being black.I would think a black person would have to be in atleast in grade 12 to read it, so maybe a picture book?

          • Nancy

            My last set of 12th grade literature students struggled to get through third-grade level books. (And these were the ones who managed NOT to drop out yet, although I had one kid who was 21 years old.)

      • Shadow

        And natural born RAPISTS.

    • sbuffalonative

      Self-centered. It’s all about ‘us’. Us being ‘our race’.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        They lack the European wiring. In particular, the impulse control genes and the DNA responsible for delayed gratification. All this higher evolution happened in the frontal lobe. Which is why Mother Nature tilted the forehead vertical for Europeans. This for the purpose of increasing volume in that growth area. These are two examples of the highest evolved human.

        http //www democratic-republicans us/neanderthals-%26-semites

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        • antiquesunlight

          Who is the first one? She is flawless.

          • Bantu_Education

            Probably a picture of an Aryan stereotype pulled from a Nazi-party propaganda magazine.

          • antiquesunlight

            I strongly support an increase of Aryan stereotypes in the world.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            She was actually a model for the Hitler youth, but I’m OK with that. Note the broach. I found her here, at John de Nugent’s site:

            http //www democratic-republicans us/neanderthals-%26-semites

          • antiquesunlight

            Say what you want about Hitler, but he had pretty good taste in girls.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Hitler’s interest in eugenics was no different that what the tribe has always done. And what feminists and lesbians do daily when select-ing daddy juice at the local fertility clinic. Eugenics for me, but not for thee.

          • Sick of it

            I have a cousin who’s much prettier and more Aryan looking.

          • antiquesunlight

            The world is a happier place for her being in it, then.

  • Garrett Brown

    Podcasts are absolutely wonderful. If you want a loyal, vocal fan base make podcasts and give the ability for your audience to call in. It will grow amren tremendously.

    Great idea Mr. Taylor and company

  • John Smith

    Eric Holder feels “my people” are intellectually inferior and is forcing police departments to lower their entrance exam passing grades to F.

  • Luca

    No amount of common sense, evidence or explanations is going to appease the negros or the blood thirsty race hustlers in the media.

    • Periapsis

      Of course not, and that is why the enemy controlled media are constantly trying to incite violence against both white Americans and police officers as well. How they treated the Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown shootings are examples of “yellow journalism.”

    • jayvbellis

      Sort of disagree. We’ve exposed many of these racial hoaxes in the past like the Duke Lacrosse team rape hoax, Trayvon Martin, Tawana – the powers that be, the hustlers move on to the next one.

  • Lee_CPA

    Several folks on this site and other like sites have correctly noted the size of Michael Brown. Also need to consider there were TWO people that officer Wilson confronted in the street. One attacked him, but I’m sure it was in the mind of the officer that there was another subject nearby who also posed a threat to the officer.

  • ZB01

    This interview is fascinating and revealing on so many levels. One “small” thing that stands out—and this is a compliment to Mr. Taylor—is the man’s humility. By that I mean he admits that he himself doesn’t particularly care to be pulled over by the police, nor deal with the TSA at airports, and that having to do so, he’s a little bit on the defense. He actually understands why blacks would feel this way; although, of course, he is nonetheless cooperative and keeps his feelings to himself.

    It also shows that given the situation, it’s not bad, per se, to feel a certain way; what is inexcusable is to act with incivility. And this is what separates the generality of Whites from Blacks.

    • antiquesunlight

      In a way, I wasn’t too surprised by his admission. He has always given off a feeling of being very polite but also very assertive. I think you have to be a bit scrappy and rebellious to do what Jared does. A lot of white people don’t have the guts to speak honestly about race with their friends much less give interviews, lecture, write articles, and run a website about it.

  • DaveMed

    Terrific. The more Jared Taylor I can distribute, the better.

  • sbuffalonative

    It turns out White officers are hesitant about shooting blacks.

    From the NYTs: “Are Police Bigoted?” (Aug 30, 2014)

    The experiment’s 102 subjects, a mixture of police officers, combat veterans and civilians, were run through a random sample of 60 scenarios drawn from actual police encounters. The scenarios, using white, black and Hispanic actors, were projected in life-size high-definition video on laboratory screens.

    Whether officers, veterans or civilians, the subjects consistently hesitated longer before firing at black suspects and were much more likely to mistakenly shoot an unarmed white suspect, the researchers found. And when they failed to fire at an armed suspect — a potentially fatal mistake — the suspect was about five times more likely to be black than white. The study’s 36 police officers were the lone exception in failing to fire: The suspect’s race wasn’t a factor in their decision not to shoot. “The findings were very unexpected given the previous experimental research,” said Lois James, an assistant professor who conducted the research.

    “The notion that cops want to shoot anybody is a lot of baloney,” said Dr. Klinger, who has interviewed some 300 officers involved in shootings. “But white officers are much more reticent to shoot a black man than a white man because, all things being equal, they know the social context in which they’re operating.”

    By that theory, officers are more careful when confronting black suspects because they know a fatal shooting will open them to controversy.”

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    Explosive! Encore! Seriously, I don’t even deny being “raciss” anymore. I made a comment to a friend the other day, nothing vulgar, just a comment on how the black community needs to take responsibility for their own actions. Their refusal to do so has destroyed any hope of them ever assimilating into white society. And the successful blacks like Bill Cosby get called an Uncle Tom when they bring this up. So, yeah, she said, “You’re so racist!” To which I replied, “Yes, yes, I am.”

    • sbuffalonative

      That’s part of the reason I became racially aware.

      I used to passively believe what I was told about blacks. But as I grew older, I started making comments like, ‘maybe blacks are at least in some ways responsible for their own conditions’. People told me I was a ‘racist’ for saying something that obvious.

      I realized if you deviated one bit from the approved list of causes of black pathology you were a ‘racist’.

      • Douglas Quaid

        Right, I’ve come to the conclusion that “racist” just means “thought crime”.

    • Cosby has said some very good things but it is always sobering and telling that he contributed money to the Tawana Brawley hoaxers.

    • Nonhumans

      When they call you a raciss, ask them why noticing behaviors and trends that are consistent within all nonhuman populations (Predisposition to crime and violence, ghetto warzones, explosive aggression, etc) is notably raciss. Afterwards, I usually express how stupid the person calling me a racist is for denying reality. There are countless examples that can be used to make the point.

    • Douglas Quaid

      I don’t know what the word “racist” means anymore, it seems to me that it simply means “thought crime”. Ex: I don’t think we should let Muslims immigrate to our country, thought crime. Blacks tend to commit more crimes per capita than whites, thought crime. It’s just a way to shut down discussion from veering to areas that don’t conform to the narrative.

      • Jack Burton

        Racist is the modern form of heretic. Someone, usually a white person, who has violated anti-white PC orthodoxy.

        • Sick of it

          Except that “racists” have done nothing but form an opinion.

    • Luca

      You should respond: “Well, actually, I’m more of a realist,” or: “Yes, I am, but in a good way”. That word has been hijacked by the left, lost its true meaning and is now simply used as a verbal weapon.

      • Grantland

        I’m a racist. Big deal. The left can suck on my dick. Then I’ll hang them. Freaks and traitors.

    • Jack Burton

      If you’re a racist, then the other person must be a mongrelist. I mean if they don’t care about race, and promote miscegenation, then they’re a mongrelist.

      I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon with the word troll. It becomes a reaction and loses its original meaning in most cases these days. Someone will call you a troll, when in fact they’re the troll, similar to blacks calling any white person who says something they don’t like a racist, even though they’re the ones vehemently promoting their race.

      As to your notion of assimilating them, good, they’re doing us a favor then.

  • Snakes on a Car

    I like listening to Jared Taylor’s voice.

    • sbuffalonative

      And the quality of this recording is amazing. It’s so clear and perfect I feel like I’m in the same room with these guys.

    • Jack Burton

      You should watch the YouTube clips of him on various talk shows, he always does a great job and stays cool under pressure. Jared as the lone, rational, white voice against the black mob on the Queen Latifah show is a testament to his courage.

  • I was once turned down from a police job for scoring too high on their written exam.

    • thomasdosborneii

      You could go to law school and become a lawyer, instead!

  • i enjoyed this podcast very much. Hope to see more in the future!

  • Spikeygrrl

    The device I use most often to access this site does not support podcasts.

    • Thank you for that helpful and stimulating addition to the commentary.

  • Tbone

    Bravo, encore!

  • SentryattheGate

    It was quite refreshing to hear this podcast, and I imagine it was especially refreshing for the police officer to be able to discuss these things openly! And it was probably with gratitude that the officer received the concern felt for having to do such a tough job, especially as a white man in a multicultural/politically correct miasma! Thank you, Jared, for, as usual, doing such a good job with another touchy subject! I look forward to more podcasts.

  • LHathaway

    ‘blacks have an incomplete picture, and incorrectly believe whites have been behaving in some gruesome racist way”.

    This is completely insane. Maybe I’m someone who has been exposed to too much diversity and vibrancy, but this is insane. A look at American in 1970, or in 2014, and the issue is to point out that it is WHITES who are or are not (in this case not) behaving in a racist way and need to defend themselves from charges of racism? This could not possibly be more backwards from any reality with racism I’ve experienced. .

    I remember Jared Taylor describing one of his appearances on the Donahue show by saying someone called in and thanked him saying, ‘My God, I had thought I was insane until I heard you talk on the show”

    We now need someplace for therapy a little more intensive than AmRen. At least I do.

    Whites likely do commit violence against people of color, and violence they initiate on their own and not just as part of ‘tensions’. I believe it actually happens, and even happens towards blacks. It’s likely 95%, or more, the other way around, but then that’s me being ‘crazy’ again.

    Jared’s voice sounds really good.

  • glennm

    we treat them as human when they are not. this is the basic problem

    • Jack Burton

      It’s a form of psychological projection. Liberal whites falsely project their own behavior and standards on others, including non-whites, pretending we’re all the same and equal. The black version of projection is the negative version, which they use as a defense mechanism, projecting and excusing all of their faults onto whites as racism, conspiracies, historical grievances, etc.

    • LHathaway

      Whites try and treat people of color, blacks in particular, as if we are equal to them. We are not. We are each guilty, starting off, of being racist and also being un-intune and unhip. Relations with people of color always improve in cases where whites realize they are not as good as people of color, and never will be, and show them, at minimum, a certain amount of deference.

      This is a second class status for us that seems unlikely to change in the near future, if ever. It’s amusing when whites, particularly white women, make an attempt to engage with them as ‘equals’. We note on here, at times, that they are getting their ‘comeuppance’ or their education.

      It is becoming harder and harder for us to favor blacks or ‘the other’ as we whites become more unchristian like and less humble.

      A Christian form of political correctness could just save your life.

  • Douglas Quaid

    I will just come out and say it, I love how Mr. Taylor pronounces the “H” in words with “wh”, reminds me a bit of Stewie from Family Guy and “Cool Whip”.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I believe it’s called “…aspirating the W…”

      • Jack Burton

        Most aspiration of the h is derived from Germanic languages. It’s usually silent in Latin and Greek.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      As in Whill Wheaton…

      • Jack Burton

        His name is Wil, not Whil. It’s also not Wil Weaton.

    • Jack Burton

      You say “cool wip?” That’s strange.

  • Robert Johnson

    As always Mr. Taylor does a great job with questions. Officer Sullivan did a wonderful job in answering. I would love to hear more podcast but I’m still a big fan of the Amren video’s! I’m a visual guy and I find myself “lock in” better. I seem to drift when just listening.

  • joe pat

    This kind of interview lets you know how incredibly biased the ‘mainstream’ media is.

    What is the source of the bias?

    Liberals claim the media bias is due to corporate ownership. Conservatives claim media bias is due to too many liberals in the media. But both sides agree the media is biased.

    But how can the media be biased against EVERYONE at the same time?

    In my opinion there is another fact that better explains media bias. If you do just a small amount of research on the internet, you can find that there are currently (and have been for decades) just 6 jewish men who control the entire national American TV news media.

    This is the only explanation I can think of that makes sense.

    • Shooga J

      Ruppert Murdoch is Jewish?

      • Jack Burton

        No, not to any significant degree. He’s of English, Irish and Scottish descent, as most white Australians are.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Oh no. Read the Malgus entry.

          There was most definitely a “shlomo in the wood-pile”.

          He-he-he—God I love that line. Despite his name and regional origins, Murdoch’s DNA would come back heavy Ashkenazi Jew based on the Malgus information.

      • jayvbellis

        Murdoch isn’t Jewish. He’s White British Australian Gentile.

        He’s an exception to the rule, like Ted Turner was, before he sold out, disappeared after the merger of Turner Broadcasting CNN with Gerald Levin’s Time Warner inc.

        Murdoch stands out as a non Jewish, Gentile media owner – heFox can do some things the Jewish Lib media doesn’t but Murdoch and fox are careful to toe the line in other ways.

        Rupert Murdoch is fanatically open borders immigration to the USA, the West and strongly pro Israel in all things. M’thinks the Murdoch media empire will go over to the Chosen tribe when old man Murdoch dies. Walt Disney studios, Disney inc went over to the Chosen Tribe when Michael Isner took over.

        • Malgus

          Sorry, no. He’s not a Gentile. Not picking on anyone, but the truth is the truth, and that’s all I care about…

          Rupert’s daddy – SIr Kieth Murdoch – married into a wealthy Jewish family by wedding Elisabeth Joy Greene in 1928. Since “jewishness” is passed through the mother, this makes Murdoch a jew whether he denies it or not…

          From the magazine Candor:

          “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

          The exact word used to describe his rise to prominence is “artificial”, and it’s long been hypothesized that Rupert was being used to deflect attention away from the real movers and shakers, like Michel Fribourg, Armand Hammer and Edgar Bronfman (described as a “Zionist Mafia”), guys so rich they make Rupert look downright puny…

          Just clarifying some things… no insult intended.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Nice work, Malgus. And no surprise.

  • Shooga J

    It is very true that the media, baiters and even the government paint a false picture that whites are out to get all blacks. I can understand the blacks buying into this drivel. But it really, really bothers me when I see droves of uninformed white people who also buy into it. As the explosion of black on white crime continues, many whites are ignorant of the fact or are so brainwashed as to actually make excuses for it. And if you calmly try to explain this issue to these people, they immediately go on the attack and call you a “racist”. People like to be ignorant. Life is better for them that way. Until a thug takes them or someone close to them out…

    • Jack Burton

      When you look at all of the nonsense that goes it, it’s clear that we’re all just held captive by black criminality and hysteria. The media and government respond to black threats and violence by trying to cater to them so they don’t riot even more than they do.

      When Holder says that this country is full of white cowards, he’s correct, but it’s liberal whites who are the cowards and who control the rest of us, like a woman trying to stop her man from speaking up even when he’s right. We have a government and media that keep white males feminized and silenced.

  • Demo P. Seal; PouponMarks

    Pictures of Blacks in the 1950s, relatively well dressed, families intact, and churchgoing were then the result of outside, from without, coercion. Blacks HAD to be good, emulate Whites because they had no choice. There was no tolerance or market for the sociopathology of Blacks as manifest by their behavior, toxic “culture”, and recidivism to below the mean. Legally or extra-legally, they were punished and received rapid and intense negative reinforcement.

    Without external controls, they have regressed and fallen to the behaviors particular to their race, observed where ever Blacks exist on the Planet. They lack the inner gyroscope necessary to exist autonomously.

  • Truthseeker

    Well done! I’d love to hear more AmRen podcasts in the future!

  • Nancy

    Loved it, Mr. Taylor!!!! I echo everyone else when I say to please keep them coming!

  • Bantu_Education

    I was hoping Jared would ask what the white police generally think of black recruits and how they tackle problems (i.e., black suspects) as opposed to white police.

  • Obvious Pseudonym

    Brilliant, more please! Mr Taylor has a great voice for radio

  • shawnmer

    In the struggle upcoming, white local police officers are going to be the LEAST of your troubles, sir. Wise up and aim your concerns in the right direction.

    • Grantland

      You have my reply. Nobody else does.

    • Grantland

      Well maybe this will get through.

      *a certain group* has incessantly used their media to stir the pot, raising hatred between the races. The Negro is not a threat to us. We can deal with the Negro, even if it gets totally feral. *that certain group* have been and are inciting a race war so that they can use the Police State (with your consent) to enslave or kill us all.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      This video probably has a couple of recent hyper-vigilant Iraq/Afghanistan vets super imposing their recent, most uncivilized, combat experiences over the semi-civilized world of the U.S.

  • Augustus3709

    I congratulate you on the inaugural podcast.

    Interesting topics about media narrative, police protocol, and racial differences in street encounters.

    (As a side note the volume levels fluctuated a lot.)

  • Visceral

    Amren – Please keep producing pod casts! They’re an excellent way to convey our message.

    For one, simply having the audio focuses the audience on only on the topic being discussed.

    Second, pod casts can be listened to while performing other tasks. For example, they can be listened to while driving, or working in the garage, or while cooking dinner, or while out fishing.

    Third, it frees the listener from any pre-conceived judgements. For example, as much as I love Jared Taylor, he’s an “old whitey”, enemy of the political left. Without seeing Jared’s race, identity obsessed leftists listening to the pod cast cannot immediately discount his narrative due to him being an “old whitey”, public enemy number one.

    Please continue producing pod casts Amren.

    Thank you

  • MekongDelta69

    Great idea for Podcasts.

    Please keep them up when time and opportunity permits.

  • clemensb

    Great! Thanks. This is another important addition to AmRen’s outreach. Great information presented well. Keep it up!

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Yeah, helmet cams didn’t help them there. Very trigger happy. Those guys must have been fresh from Mujahedin territory with those levels of hyper-vigilance. White poverty has certainly become a crime in America.

  • Mike

    Cops routinely use excessive force if you ask me. Just look at how they shoot so many people’s dogs needlessly. But it isn’t about ‘racism’, that’s the leftist spin the media puts on it. But I do think that we need to look at the police’s monopoly of power granted to them by government.

  • kury

    keep ’em coming Taylor!