Affective Empathy, An Evolutionary Mistake?

Peter Frost, Unz Review, September 20, 2014

In a previous post, I asked, “How universal is empathy?” The question is tricky because empathy has three components:

1. pro-social behavior–willingness to help people out, hospitality to strangers, acts of compassion.

2. cognitive empathy–capacity to see things from another person’s perspective and to understand how he or she feels.

3. affective or emotional empathy–capacity not only to understand how another person feels but also to experience those feelings involuntarily and to respond appropriately. Failure to help a person in distress can trigger a self-destructive sequence: anguish, depression, suicidal ideation.

Pro-social behavior is very widespread among humans and may even be universal. It isn’t unconditional, however. It can be used strategically and is often influenced by previous experiences with the person in question.

Cognitive empathy seems much less universal. In Oceanic cultures, for instance, there is both an unwillingness and an inability to know what other people feel. A person’s inner feelings are said to be private and unknowable (Lepowski, 2011).

Affective empathy has an even more restricted range. If the range of empathic guilt is indicative, it may reach its highest incidences in the “guilt cultures” of northwestern Europe. In these cultures, guilt outweighs shame as a way to enforce social rules. What’s the difference between the two? You feel shame when someone from your community sees you breaking a rule. With guilt, no witnesses are needed. You feel guilty when no else is watching or even when you merely think of breaking the rule.

Until recently, empathy has been studied only in Western populations, with the result that it is often assumed to have the same characteristics everywhere, at least potentially. {snip}

When Siu and Shek (2005) studied empathy in a Chinese sample ranging from 18 to 29 years of age, they found that the participants made little distinction between cognitive empathy and affective (emotional) empathy. These two components seemed to be weakly differentiated from each other. The authors attributed this finding to “cultural differences” “Chinese people might not perceive the items from the two dimensions as too different in nature.” The authors went on to note that “there are still debates concerning the boundaries of emotional and cognitive processes underlying empathy” and that “the causal relationships between cognitive and emotional processing underlying empathy are not simple or unidirectional.”

In short, the Chinese participants could see things from another person’s perspective and understand how that person felt. There is much less indication, however, that they involuntarily experienced the feelings of other people, especially feelings of distress. This is not to say they were incapable of such emotion transference, but rather that it seems limited in scope, perhaps being confined to family members and not extended to strangers.

In general, empathy is perceived in China as a moral duty and not as an involuntary emotional response. {snip}

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In humans, empathy seems to have differentiated progressively into its three components, with pro-social behavior being the oldest and most widespread one, followed by cognitive empathy and, finally, affective empathy.

This kind of mental evolution has been certainly possible in our species:

First, all three components display moderate to high heritability, especially the last one, i.e., 68% (Chakrabarti and Baron-Cohen, 2013). There has thus been a potential for gene-culture co-evolution.

Second, gene-culture co-evolution seems to have been widespread. About 10,000 years ago, human genetic evolution accelerated by over a hundred-fold, yet by that time our ancestors had colonized this planet from the tropics to the arctic (Hawks et al., 2007). They were evolving primarily in response to different cultural environments, and only secondarily to different physical environments.

Third, people have thus been selected for their ability to function in a certain cultural environment, just as they have been selected for their ability to function in heat or cold.

That answers the “how” question, but what about the “why”? Why was affective empathy more advantageous at the northwestern end of Eurasia? Together with empathic guilt, it may be part of a larger behavioral adaptation called the Western European Marriage Pattern, which seems to reflect a culture where kinship ties are relatively weak and thus insufficient to enforce rules of correct behavior.

The WEMP predominates north and west of an imaginary line running from Trieste to St. Petersburg and has the following general characteristics:

– men and women tend to marry relatively late and many never marry

– children usually leave the family to form new households

– a high proportion of non-kin circulate among different households (Hajnal, 1965)

This zone of relatively weak kinship existed before the Black Death of the 14th century and is attested by fragmentary evidence going back to the 9th century and even earlier (Hallam, 1985; Seccombe, 1992, p. 94). I suspect its origins go back to a unique Mesolithic culture that once existed along the North Sea and the Baltic (Price, 1991). At that time, an abundance of marine resources drew people to the coast each year for fishing, sealing, and shellfish collecting, thus creating large but fluid settlements unlike anything seen in other hunter-gatherers. Social interactions would have largely involved non-kin, and there would have thus been strong selection for mechanisms that could enforce social rules in the absence of kin obligations.

Conclusion

Through their high capacity for affective empathy and empathic guilt, these Northwest Europeans had an edge in adapting to later cultural environments that would be structured not by kinship but by other ways of organizing social relations: the State, ideology, and the market economy.

This has been one path that leads to advanced societies, but it is not the only one. East Asian societies have pursued a similar path of cultural evolution while having relatively low levels of affective empathy and empathic guilt. They seem to have done so by relying more on external means of behavior control (shaming, family discipline, community surveillance) and by building on cognitive empathy through learned notions of moral duty.

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  • MekongDelta69

    Empathy and altruism is a normal and good thing – in a normal and good country.

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          • me

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          • Rurik

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        • Garrett Brown

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  • I think this kind of empathy which is a subset of pathological altruism is actually a good thing and in fact a beneficial thing, a form of wider group evolutionary strategy, if the peoples who behave this way are de facto permanently isolated from the rest of the world’s people. But it’s an evolutionary dead end when tribe-minded people show up.

    • Cecil Broomsted

      It is good until you invite a tidal wave of racial aliens into your nation who not only do not share your sense of empathy but actually prey upon those feelings. Gets lots of whites raped and murdered.

      • Mark Hillyard

        When I entered the Army in 1969 I had no feelings towards anyone of another race. I was naïve but soon learned that others had a deep hatred for me. When I left the Army I was fully and completely, so it seemed, changed. I now knew there was a difference between them and me so I chose to segregate myself from them. Some might call it a sense of self preservation.
        I’ve since moderated my “feelings” in that I can contain my hatred and not let hatred contain me. That’s also a self preservation mode as unrestrained hatred can lead to ill health physically, mentally and spiritually.
        This is my personal opinion and I find that I do just fine in my desire to segregate. I even choose to segregate myself from certain White people who are so far left of me that there is no point on which I can agree with them.

        • none of your business

          A woman friend from a small town with no blacks at all noticed the same thing with the guys who joined up right after high school in the mid sixties. When they came home on leave they were full of stories about the horrible behavior and stone stupidity of the blacks. It was race realism.

        • Rurik

          Same year, same course of development, my brother. I am certain that we are not alone either.

          • PvtCharlieSlate

            You’re not alone.
            Same year, same Army, same experience.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        Excellent point. Empathetic altrusim, is indeed, one of our traits as whites, and must be nurtured and guarded cautiously, not used foolishly. Our strengths as whites can be taken advantage of, and tragically, turned into weaknesses. yes, it has led to tragic consequences, such as the recent murders in Africa when white medical teams tried to bring treatments to the heathen who murdered them.

        • The problem here is that white guilt has to intervene in other racial matters, inevitably getting themselves killed in the process.

      • Including little girls.

    • White Mom in WDC

      And that they are, tribe minded. These immigrants are not here to assimilate, but dominate and they are being encouraged by The Tribe that is occupying our federal government.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        Sometimes the voice of Hispano-Supremacy makes its intentions known loud and clear. Voter registration deadlines are nearing for the 2012 midterms, and when Michelle Obama came to Atlanta for a campaing rally, Rafael Navarro, in his article in “Nuevo Georgia” let it slip that the First Lady was here to register minorities to vote. yeah, to register minorties. Not whites or just anyone to regiister to vote — only “minorities.”

        • kikz2

          i hope she wakes up one night w/one standing over her bed……

          • Samuel Hathaway

            Hispanic men just might prefer to suffer financial loss than enter Michelles bedroom.

        • Nancy

          Samuel, are you here in ATL as well? We’re hangin’ in Gwinnett…

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Their numbers in government jobs are as disproportionate as in Hollyweird, no doubt.

    • evilsandmich

      Certainly a double edged sword. It makes for good organized violence, but not so much disorganized violence in which the rest of the world excels.

    • Mike

      I don’t think it’s good. It needs to be dialed back. Christianity has played a big part in all of this, in convincing people that objective facts don’t matter what matters are feelings and faith. I think if we return to our pagan roots it would be good.

  • BillMillerTime

    According to the author, shame is when “[y]ou feel guilty when no else is watching or even when you merely think of breaking the rule.” Wrong. Shame is a completely different emotion than guilt. Guilt makes you want to apologize and make amends to the person(s) you have harmed. Shame makes you want to cover up and hide.

    In the mythological garden of Eden, after Adam and Eve ate the fruit of knowledge from the tree of good and evil, did they feel guilt or shame? Shame.

    • Yancy Derringer

      You read the writer’s definitions wrong, BMT. He didn’t define shame as you say he did. His does say shame and guilt are wholly different. His definitions are consistent with yours.

  • Unstated is that this makes a case for white nationalism. In our multicultural, “diverse” utopia, we’re sheep surrounded by wolves. We are strongest as a racial whole.

    • Samuel Hathaway

      This is true, we are strongest as a racial whole. When white Europeans of every nationality from Greek to Icelandic, from Russian to Portuguese find their collective voice to to put a stop to the Islamo-Afro invasion, NOTHING will stop White, western man.

  • Cecil Broomsted

    Fairly obvious. Northwestern Europeans have the most empathy. Africans, the least. And no, it has nothing to do with ideology. It is racially based.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      What is an essential positive to create and maintain western civilization becomes
      a negative called “white guilt”. The Marxist invaders are exploiting the exclusive genetic trait that had separated Europe and European-America from the jungle.

      • ricpic

        Is the white Achille’s heel quilt or trust? I’d say it’s trust. A high percentage of whites of at least average intelligence and above not only trust strangers of every race, they trust that, on no evidence whatsoever, completely unreadable non-whites will somehow, over time do to them as they would do to the other. It’s an incredible breach in whites’ defenses and of course ruthless advantage is taken of it.

        • John R

          One stems from the other. Most Whites are good people, and, sadly for some, project that goodness onto others. Hence, you have the roots of the pathology of liberalism.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          The western Europeans have the highest evolved frontal lobes. That is evidenced by the near vertical foreheads, to allow for more volume to advance. The pre-frontal cortex was recently found to be the region where “conscience” comes from. It’s the highest evolved brains of the western Europeans that made western civilization possible. The protruding chin and the near vertical forehead are markers for the highest evolved humans. Here are two examples.
          .

          • B.A_2014

            Miss Lawerence looks like a goddess in that photo.

          • Paleoconn

            The b&w pic reminds me of Nicole Kidman.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        It started before Marx. Marx was/is just the newest package of the same old product.

        .

      • Charlie

        There are a myriad of reasons, for Whites being the most altruistic, more than any other race…for starters, since White nations tend to be the most peaceful and organized, there is less chance for wars, either internal or external, which eventually, if it goes on long enough, results in the breakdown of society…what the Leftist media never tells you, is that, there are far more conflicts for ethnic and racial reasons in the Third World, i.e. the non-White world, than in the West…just take Nigeria, for instance…Nigeria is the largest country in Africa, in terms of population, yet there are so many different tribes in that country, competing for the scarce resources, that is makes the breakup of the Former Yugoslavia, look like a picnic…what makes the Europeans a truly gifted and superior creature, is the fact that, in spite of the various ethnic conflicts that plagued Europe since the 18th century, Europeans have been able to patch up their differences, albeit with a few “unification movements” i.e. civil wars…Germany was once a patchwork quilt of nearly 1,800 different political entities, as late as the early 19th century, yet within 50-60 years, Germany became a Reich, and the strongest country in the world…Italy was ruled over by at least a dozen different non-Italian groups, over the past 500 years, yet by 1861, they were able to unify themselves as well…those two success stories, have absolutely no precedent in the
        non-White world…

        • AndrewInterrupted

          What is contradictory in many African countries is that they have (and have had) vast resources and still can’t/couldn’t build an advanced civilization.

          The Boers of southern Africa were well on their way to building something from almost nothing until the black swarms devoured them.

          • Mike

            Brain are a social construct. There’s no such thing as intelligence, what matters are feelings. (sarcasm)

    • anew

      Evidence? Look, I’m a white nationalist, and a race realist too, but c’mon, Frost’s argument here is very weak. His hypothesis is definitely possible, but this article is certainly not convincing.

      If we’re to progress as a movement, we’re going to have to stop trumpeting every half-baked speculation on evolutionary racial differences. They’re not all brilliant and fearless truth-tellers. Some of their ideas are just as clumsy and stupid as the opposition (well, maybe not quite that stupid).

      • Rick O’Shea

        I hear you and I salute your insistence on remaining skeptical and not just swallowing stuff you might like to believe. That’s the right approach.

        But I will point out that empathy has long been known to be connected to intelligence, and intelligence gaps are already well established.

        • kikz2

          one of the author’s names…is cohen.. so.. grain of salt…

          • Augustus3709

            cohen-cidence?

          • kikz2

            well done!.. did you also notice that the article mentioned autism research…. so.. apparently cohen and his ilk think they’ve established a correlation btwn autism and altruism…… figures.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        How ’bout just screwing evolution and just doing it. White western civilization is under attack and western peoples being pushed aside. It’s time to push back.

      • Cecil Broomsted

        We do not always need a formal study to prove what is readily obvious by plain observation. Think about the human activities that are associated with high levels of empathy. Which race is predominantly involved in those activities? Which is least involved? Which countries would you think would be the most empathetic toward the welfare of the poor, white ones or non-white ones? I could go on here.

        Where is your evidence to the contrary?

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      Africans have less empathy than my dog. At least when my dog tries to get me to give her a piece of tri-tip, she brings me one of my shoes as a trade. A negro would not even try to trade me one of my own shoes. He would just kill me and take it – and then take my shoes as well.

      .

      • Rurik

        If you have more than one dog when one of them takes ill, it’s fellows will nose around with evident sympathy and concern. Dogs can show more empathy than some peoples.

  • If whites are to survive we must limit pro-social behavior to our race. That’s easily done as I know some white women who won’t hold a door open for people of other races. No need to feel guilty about. “If she was on fire, I wouldn’t pee on her” is the idea.

    Cognitive empathy can help us survive by seeing things from other’s perspectives. The more I see things from a black perspective, the more disgusted I grow with these creatures. The problem for some people who understand blacks is that they suppress their feelings of disgust. Let it all hang out, as they used to say. Get in touch with your disgust.

    My emotional empathy is strong in that when I see someone of any race or ethnicity hurt, my body experiences literal momentary physical pain, like that person is experiencing. It happens with animals too. I can’t suppress my emotional empathy, but I sure can fight any feelings of guilt or depression associated with it.

    White guilt has never worked on me. Does that make me a psychopath or sociopath? I think not.

    • Mary

      I agree with this. I also experience intense emotional empathy when I see someone in pain or distress. I couldn’t stop it if I wanted to. But, I keep my head and see the bigger picture. We can help others, but we must be discerning. Whites are often not good about making distinctions and using judgment in this area.
      As far as White guilt goes, I feel absolutely none. Never have. And this despite knowing that some of my ancestors were slaveholders. Not my fault. Although I do wish they had not imposed this menace on us.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        Next time someone tells you that “there is no such thing as race, that there is only one race… the human race” and that race is just a social construct, just let them know this: “White guilt is a social construct.” I can’t take credit for that one, though. A fellow AmRen reader provided that one…. I’ll never forget it.

    • John R

      Good point. I hate blacks not because I don’t understand them, but because I understand them all too well. “Hey, YT’s backing down. It’s our turn to take it to ‘the man’ let’s get’em…”

    • Samuel Hathaway

      The fact that white guilt has never worked on you doesn’t make you a psychopath or a sociopath. It makes you normal. 🙂

    • Periapsis

      Indeed, we should use the double standard to our advantage for a change, Empathy should be reserved only for those of OUR kind. Others do not. I for one can care less about the blacks and browns because they do not give a **** about themselves, only about terrorizing, raping, killing, robbing, displacing and murdering us.

      • Rurik

        Reciprocity …. squared!

    • kikz2

      i saw a Black nanny out the other day w/two small White boys in her care… i did it for them…..

      • Samuel Hathaway

        At the farmers market three weeks ago, I witnessed a really bizarre sight… African immigrants with three children in the shopping cart and a white child in the cart, too. It was weird. I wondered where the white mother was. Something just didn’t “look right.”

        • kikz2

          that is odd, S. Hathaway…
          note my edit above… (opened a door)…

          Big1-4
          i generally try to treat everbody nicely..like i’d want to be treated…… but some people just negate that ‘default’ upon encounter, some even before close physical proximity is reached….

          my empathy has always been strong, but as i’ve aged.. it’s become more of a live and let die thing………even though i still can’t stomach seeing people injured.. of any race.. i simply can’t watch “funniest videos” because i don’t think seeing people injured is funny…and i can’t understand how others can think it……

          i find myself having to literally hold my tongue w/White women i see w/Black males.. especially if they’re toting a ‘halfrican’. on my part its outright disgust, which almost jumps out of my mouth, i also try to avoid eye contact, because i’m sure my disgust registers on my face, and i really don’t feel like being attacked in public.

          then there’s the muslim woman thing… my derision level usually is contained to my eyes…. it just depends on just how tightly their headscarf is pulled up around their chins. the ones that resemble sockpuppets piss me off the most…… it’s 110 in the shade in Dallas, i have on shorts and a tank top… and sometimes you get the ‘evil eye’ from them, or their ‘sisters’ dressed like caspar, ya know w/only the eyeslits and hands showing…. but sometimes you don’t. unless the righteous indignation “infidel/whore” vibe coming at me is strong, coming off them….my usual default is..something akin to pity…… you poor stuipd cow…. hiding like that… first of all by cowtowing to a religion that demands it, a husband that demands it.. or your self-peity that demands such (in my opine) false modesty, because your males are so uncivilized they must cover females in public to their eyeslits to prevent their rape on the street.

  • Samuel_Morton

    Affective empathy is an incredibly beneficial trait when living among like-minded individuals. On the other hand, in diverse societies with groups who do not have the capacity to empathize on an emotional level, this trait is an absolute death sentence for those who have it.

    Northwestern Europeans can’t even stop themselves from reacting to someone in distress with empathy. The problem today is that this trait is being exploited by other intelligent groups who know how to empathize intellectually but share no emotional connection with people in distress. So they can basically turn it off, unlike the Nordic races. Those intelligent groups without pathological altruism can use this against the Occident to make them work against their own self interests, all the while fanning flames of resentment in less intelligent groups who have no idea what empathy is, intellectually or affectively.

  • Mack0

    A very effective adaptation for maintaining a harmonious and congruent civilization. A negative adaption when dealing with manipulative psychopaths.

  • Agent Smith

    I think one could very rightly argue that it, like all facets of the human mind, has both drawbacks and benefits. I think society becomes dangerously feral without at least a touch of emotional empathy. The problem is when it becomes so dominant that it overcomes more base and important functions of the mind, like self preservation or the continuation of ones own genetic heritage.

    We see this more and more in the west unfortunately. Young adults refusing to have children, instead adopting those of lesser genetic stock, and willingly destroying that which their ancestors strove for tens of thousands of years to safeguard. Or of the tearing down our idols, both religious and historical, only to replace them with ones that are but a crude mockery.

    We have allowed emotional empathy to be used as a weapon against us. The powers that be (I think we all know about whom I am talking) found this to be the Achilles Heel of the west and are exploiting it for all they can. It is such a powerful force that the last nations to use emotional empathy as a tool of self preservation for their nation, race, and culture were destroyed in 1945.

    • me

      But, Agent Smith, you have no empathy.

      I’d like to see about 1000 Agent Smiths that are fanatically pro-White, cold-hearted mothers, take over the immigration departments, the Congress, the Supreme Court, all bureaucracies, and all state and local governments.
      We are all aware by now, I hope, that the only people we should be worrying about are White people. We are 14% of the world’s total population–the true ‘minority’–and a target of every other race’s hatred, envy, jealousy, covetousness, abuse, animosity, violence, and genocide.

  • Pax Romana

    Our weaknesses are their strengths. They are using our sense of kindness and mercy to destroy us. The meek will NOT inherit the Earth, and turning the other cheek will only be seen as a sign of weakness, and will guarantee that you get hit again. All white nations are being overrun because of our collective kindness and mercy, and it is destroying us. As one poster in another web site exclaimed: “Your children will be 4th rate shitizens in a third world country. They will show your “precious” children NONE of the politically correct, suicidal “tolerance” you showed them.”

    Other races never worried about the welfare and treatment of others before themselves.

    “In civilized warfare, an obviously contradictory phrase, wounded soldiers could be left in a field hospital which might be occupied by the enemy; but when fighting Indians this would be a death sentence. An Indian thought a battle was not finished until he or his opponent lay dead. The white man’s concept of mercy struck him as not only peculiar but cowardly”.-‘SON OF THE MORNING STAR’, pg. 281-2

    And it was the same for Black Africans…..

    “The reason for this no-prisoners policy was seldom articulated by its practitioners. In many cases it was simply tradition, a practice so common and universal that it needed no explanation. For example during the Zulu War, a British officer asked the Zulu prisoners why he should not kill them, as Zulus always killed the British that fell into their hands. One prisoner answered, `There is a very good reason that you should not kill us. We kill you because it is the custom of the black man, but it isn’t the white man’s custom.’ Impressed by this appeal to the power of custom, the officer spared the Zulu prisoners.” [“He ordered the prisoners released and gave them safe passage through British lines.”] -‘War Before Civilization’, by Lawrence Keeley

    [“Two months earlier, a Zulu army had slaughtered a British force at Isandlwana. They had shown no quarter, killing and, in many cases, horribly mutilating more than 800 British soldiers and 52 officers – more British officers than were killed at Waterloo.”]

    Re: “Before Isandwhlana, we treated all your wounded men in our Hospital, but when you attacked our camp, your brethren, our black patients, rose and helped to kill those who had been attending on them. Can any of you advance any reason why I should not kill you?” One of the younger men, with an intelligent face, asked, “May I speak ?” “Yes.” “There is very good reason why you should not kill us. We kill you because it is the custom of the Black men, but it isn’t the White man’s custom!” So, putting them in charge of an officer and a couple of Colonel Bullcr’s men, I had them sent safely past our Outposts, as far as the Zunguin mountain.”

    “Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.”– Adam Smith

    “Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”

    • AndrewInterrupted

      “Your children will be 4th rate shitizens in a third world country. They will show your “precious” children NONE of the politically correct, suicidal “tolerance” you showed them.”

      Yes, indeed. If only the ‘useful idiots’ submitting to the Cultural Marxists truly understood what they were enabling.

      • Augustus3709

        They don’t care about the future. They are cowards with no sense of duty. They would gladly set the world on auto-destruct so long as it happened right after their own death.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          And many of them have children and grand children, which is the saddest part of it all.

          • Augustus3709

            “A society becomes great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they will never sit.”

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Listed as a Greek proverb. Good stuff.

  • IstvanIN

    They haven’t studied Negroes, and for good reason: they have NO empathy of any type.

    • me

      Not even for their own, as evidenced by the high rates of violence, homicide, and rape in their communities towards each other. I don’t even have to add the continent of Africa and the tribal genocide….

  • IstvanIN

    1. pro-social behavior
    2. cognitive empathy
    3. affective or emotional empathy

    These are the inherent traits that enforce the European Social Contract. We (Whites) do not need a law to cover every aspect of day-in and day-out life. We do not need a master or guard or cop to watch and observe our every movement to make sure the majority of us behave. The above are probably what made Swedish socialism work when Sweden was Swedish. These traits also seem to be inherent, perhaps in different proportions, in the North East Asian societies. On the other hand these traits are uncommon among the black and Arab groups and thus they need a strongman to control them. Just one more reason why we:
    1) Should live among ourselves.
    2) Are more advanced: we don’t require constant baby sitting. Freedom requires self-control.

    • John R

      You touched on something interesting. After World War Two, the United States helped establish democracy in the two defeated fascist countries: Germany and Japan. Our success there has since encouraged us to go on in “nation building” experiments around the world that have never been successful. But our two successes occurred in a White Nordic nation (Germany), and in a Northeast Asian nation (Japan). The one had people capable of emotional empathy and the other at least had people capable of shame. This is just another example of problems caused by the “all races are equal” view of the world.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        Germany was democratic before the US destroyed it. There was no reason to make Japan a democracy since they were happy following an emperor.

        The US attacked Japan around 1850 forcing them to do trade with the globalists.

        “The first contact with the West occurred about 1542, when a Portuguese ship, blown off its course to China, landed in Japan. During the next century, traders from Portugal, the Netherlands, England, and Spain arrived, as did Jesuit, Dominican, and Franciscan missionaries. During the early part of the 17th century, Japan’s Tokugawa Shogunate suspected that the traders and missionaries were actually forerunners of a military conquest by European powers. This caused the Shogunate to place foreigners under progressively tighter restrictions.

        Ultimately, Japan forced all foreigners to leave and barred all relations with the outside world except for severely restricted commercial contacts with Dutch and Chinese merchants at Nagasaki.”

        It would have been far better if the US had kept its nose in it own business.

        If American whites really were so intellectually superior to everyone else, the US wouldn’t be in such a mess.

        .

        • IstvanIN

          The Emperor was largely powerless and symbolic through most of Japan’s history. He functioned as the top Shinto priest. The Meiji Restoration was anomaly (less than a 100 years) and much of the government was dominated by the military.

        • me

          It isn’t about intellect, it’s about emotions like empathy and altruism that are a detriment to Whites when extended to the other races. Again, the blame isn’t on the Whites in this country–it has to do with a Merchant class that has no empathy or altruism for the ‘outsider’, and who have used our best qualities against us to usurp us in our own countries. Our projection of our own best qualities, along with our belief in non-White ‘integrity’, have allowed the catastrophes of these last two centuries to befall upon us. We need to realize that the alien ‘others’ are not White, and do not share in our genetic predisposition of fairness and kindness towards others. We had better toughen up and become more ‘exclusive’ in dealing with people that are NOT our kind, or we will become a genocided people, and our history another mythos like that of Troy or Atlantis…

      • IstvanIN

        Couple of other points:
        1) Both were advanced, internally civilized societies.
        2) Both were occupied and forced to become more democratic.
        3) In Japan the Emperor was allowed to retain his throne (should have had a Hohenzollern on the German throne after WW1).
        4) Both Japan and West Germany were allowed and encouraged to reindustrialize.
        5) Both were then racially very homogenous.

        South Korea finnally got around to Democracy in the 1980s. Vietnam does quite well these days with a home grown form of communism. Not all societies should be republics. In fact republics, where the least productive and least intelligent have the same vote as the wise and productive is a bad form of government. Our founding fathers didn’t want universal suffrage. Some countries need a strongman. I firmly believe most western countries need a monarch with real powers to counter balance the short-sighted politicians whose only real loyalty is to their party not their nation.

        When I was graduate school I read a lot about King Michael of Romania (our ally who we sold out to Stalin). If I recall he saw being King as being the man who refereed all the different parties and views with the ultimate goal of choosing the path that served the best interests of the majority of his subjects. Name one elected politician who truly wants what is best for his (or her) people?

        • Charlie

          America needs a strongman now…Democracy has been used against the goodwill of Whites, by “lobbyists”…

      • My grandfather was a prisoner of both the Japanese army and the German army. He said while he was treated well in a German camp until release, in the Japanese camp, he was beaten multiple times and his army mates got worse, some had their fingers nails ripped off one by one for refusing to speak. Teeth-pulling was a sever punishment for trying to escape. These inhumane torture practices did not exist in western military in the early 20th century.

        • HE2

          Low Burning, same Japanese POW experience in my dad’s family.
          Shot down over Burma, a pilot uncle was tortured beyond description and died.
          Surviving buddies reported the guards targeted him for special maltreatment because they hated his toe-headed blond hair and blue eyes.
          To this day, dad’s family holds bitter contempt for the Japanese.

    • Yancy Derringer

      There’s a tremendous amount of nuance and delicacy in advanced white society. It is learned and polished over the course of one’s lifetime. To believe that a contingent of Somalis, or ghetto blacks, can be plopped into the heart of it and synchronize with it — ever — is delusional and ludicrous.

      I am sick of holdng the door patiently for groups of black women; every time, they sashay right on through, continuing their conversation, never even glancing at me, much less thanking me. White women almost always do.

      Again, that’s a never and an almost always.

      Now, I’m not going to lower myself to outright ungentlemanly behavior for having to suffered this microaggression; instead, now when I see the door-holding scenario developing I slow down or stop several yards short of the entrance, let the black women reach the door and admit themselves, and then I’ll continue through, well away from them all the while.

      I must say, dumb trashy white women sometimes act the same way — no smile of thanks for holding the door. Funny, though… a white man will always thank another white man. The one who goes through first hangs onto the door just long enough for the trailing man to catch it. A quick ‘thanks’ and a ‘yup’ and there you have it — one small example of polite society operating. Needless to say, we don’t smash a fellow citizen in the face with a brick without good reason.

  • Kay

    I recall watching a Youtube video where a hidden camera was set up to capture people’s reactions to a freezing child in Oslo, Norway. Whether ultimately staged or not, I wasn’t the least surprised to see the generosity of Norwegians giving up their garments to help keep him warm. Also unsurprising were the comments sneering how such goodwill would never be seen in America or if, for instance, the child had been black. It’s amusing that those who most loudly bewail the racism and disunity in America fail to understand that it is their very multicultural ideal that hinders trust and empathy in a society.

    Ironically enough, the video was intended to “raise awareness” of freezing children in Syria.

    • Melvin Bonzarelli

      There was, and probably still is, a video on YouTube taken by an overhead traffic cam somewhere in a city in China. A small child about four or five years of age wanders into traffic and is struck by a car. Passersby just look at the child lying in the road as one truck after another runs over the child. No one comes over to help, they barely glance at the inert form, or ignore it altogether.

      • me

        I had the misfortune of seeing that video as well…..completely heartless. Of course, this has been the character of the majority of the Chinese people for millennia, as shown by their history. (With exceptions, of course. God bless ‘Tank man”, whoever he was! May he rest in peace.) This is a perfect example of the inherent differences in the races.

      • The only people horrified would have been European tourists, some who would gladly run between the traffic in desperation to help.

  • Easyrhino

    If I ever hear another White parent offer forgiveness to the black perpetrator of a murder/rape/robbery of their White child I’ll implode.

    • Rick O’Shea

      I would have been one of them before I woke up, I was the most vile of that kind.

      If something happened to a loved one of mine now, I would be filled with a beautiful, pure hatred.

      I believe everything is made more beautiful when it is fueled by good reasons, strong evidence, and powerful intellect. Even hatred.

      Blind, dumb hatred should never be lumped in with pure, white hot burning hatred come by honestly.

      • none of your business

        Ever hear what Theo Van Gogh’s Mother said when she finally spoke about the murder of her son by an arab muslim immigrant on welfare?
        “Let no social worker or psychologist tell me I cannot hate the man who killed my son.”

      • John R

        Love and hate are two necessities. If you truly love something, or someone, you must then ate that which threatens it or hurts them. It cannot be otherwise. This is one of the many things that liberals do not seem to understand. If someone hurt someone whom you love, you have every right and even a duty to hate them.

        • me

          The liberal’s inability to distinguish right from wrong, good from evil, and justice from injustice, is the prime cause of the dysfunction of the West. They are literally incapable of discrimination. They’ve even made laws against ‘discrimination’, the bedrock of logical thinking. Liberals are immature and insane. If your only cause is for ‘egalitarianism’, then everything else is moot–including excellence, beauty, justice, the rule of law, achievement, and the discernment between indiscriminate ‘hatred’ and the righteous fury of the honorable, moral man. All they have in their bag of tricks are obnoxious behavior, emboldened aggressiveness, propaganda, blatant lies, bullying, simplified labels, silly catch phrases, and the dubious talent of preying on people’s emotions. Drag them into the light and expose their wickedness, and they slink off like the filthy vermin that they are.

          • anony

            Excellent summation! I shall include it in my library of outstanding statements.

          • Charlie

            Because Liberal values, are imposed upon them by the “enemy within”, the Zionists…prior to the rise of Zionism, the very concept of Liberalism, was alien to the world, and in particular, the European concepts of social thought and discourse…Liberal “values” will destroy any society, in which it is imposed upon, much faster than any civil war, or invading force, ever will…

          • Liberal (elites) are psychos and need sectioning, not put in high positions of power. Before long, their sheer incompetence will be legalising murder and rape and robbery, so long as the victims are white.

            Any atrocity is allowed if the prevention of it will disgrace the name of non-white peoples.

            This gives blacks and browns the nod of the head to racially abuse whites in anyway they would like. Deranged liberals are building a prison of physical and emotional torture for whites, in what use to be their cultures. Even white children are not spared the mercy of psychotic liberals.

            Western societies and liberalism support evil, not because monsters exist, but because they refuse to do anything about them.

          • Periapsis

            Sooner or later, that will lead to whites turning the tables on them, and the darkies. When that happens whites are going to repay the mental and physical torture, abuse, rape and murder against them. The slaughter the blacks, browns and their enablers too will face will be justified.

    • JSS

      Those displays make me nauseous but I think those sentiments are more about emotional self gratification and an excellent illustration of the spiritual sickness and rot that Whites are in the midst of today. I don’t think those Whites who forgive their children’s vibrant murderors are really doing so out of genuine empathy but are simply engaging in public holier then though nonsesene. If their children had been murdered by a White person it’s a safe assumption they would show no such forgiveness. If their empathy was true and natural then it wouldn’t be so selective. But they are only slavish and self abassing towards nonWhites. And even then they still don’t want to actually live around them. The problem isn’t empathy it’s who controls our society, programs us and our children and shapes the narratives we live by.

      • kikz2

        well, if i have affective empathy through genetics…….. it doens’t extend to fly covered snotnosed crying africans or mexicans….. sorry… the animal abuse commercials get to me more…

      • me

        I can’t think of a more horrendous thing than to exalt and forgive the murderer of your own flesh and blood, especially that of a murderer that kills your child because of undeserved racial hatred and animosity. Such betrayal of your own is absolutely incomprehensible. This is a rare insanity that was NEVER taught under the guise of ‘Christian’ charity, until the Merchants gained control.

        • Periapsis

          I would never convict the relatives for finding and killing a loved ones’ killer or killer. Time for whites to start killing those who murder them because of racial hatred, and others to hang juries.

      • Rurik

        Just look at the mob in Ferguson, Mo.

    • Samuel Hathaway

      In Ferguson, MO at the “prayer” vigils, how much forgiveness was offered to the white policeman who shot Michael Brown? “From the REVEREND Al Sharpton” no less?
      I think forgiveness in this context is the white parent trying to cope with the loss of a child whithout going crazy. If its motivated by “white guilt” and anger over the racial “sins” of the past, it it wrong.

      • me

        The police officer, Darren Wilson, has nothing to be forgiven FOR. These feral Negroes are the most hateful group of people to ever walk the face of the earth. The mother of Michael Brown should plead for forgiveness for birthing and raising such a monster.

    • kikz2

      i had quite the shock last wk. last week’s topc was diversity…..my MGMT professor admitted in open class that White males are openly discriminated against.. he doesn’t like it one bit, and admits it is racist…. i almost fell on the floor……..

      • me

        Buy that man a drink! Kudos to him!

  • JSS

    Most ultra liberal/bleeding heart Whites I have met don’t actually possess much true empathy for anyone. They sneer down their noses at fellow Whites who don’t profess the same fashionable opinions that they do and their love for diversity doesn’t extend to actually sending their kids to diverse schools or living in proximity to them. The number of Whites who really do volunteer to build wells and schools in Africa or other such wastes of time is fairly low in my casual observation. For most nominally liberal Whites who profess to love the modern multiracial utopia it is more because of societal pressure to do so and a lack of having heard other opinions then from genuine conviction in my opinion. Basically they have had their empathy for their own kind bred out of them more then they actually feel some real love and connection to the blacks and browns. If they truly did love the “other” white flight and the general hypocrisy of White racial liberalism wouldn’t exist.

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      I consider them to be more stupid and misguided than insincere. That’s just my take, though.

      • JSS

        Stupid and misguided certainly applies to many of the younger Whites of both political persuasions. But the very real phenomenon of the most self professed anti racist and social justice crusading Whites wanting to live as far from diversity as possible points to deep cognitive dissidence and hypocrisy.

    • Periapsis

      Indeed, that is why I think ultra-liberals are really wolves in sheep’s clothing, as in dangerous psychopaths who use what is good about others against them.

    • LHathaway

      So true!

  • Rick O’Shea

    Interestingly, I’m 100% Irish genetically but mine was the first generation in my family that was not raised Catholic (only baptized, nothing more) and the well known Catholic guilt was *not* infused into me. Guilt was in no way impressed upon me by my family.

    Yet, I still have that classic Irish Catholic guilt anyway. Super minor transgressions from years ago will haunt me, etc.

    It’s intriguing to think I may have this as a genetic trait.

    • Kenner

      Have a drink, you’ll feel better.

      • Kenner

        [I’m half Irish.]

        • cherrie greenbaum123

          And I’ll raise you a half pint, Ole Kenner, being that I’m half Irish me self.

          • Kenner

            I thought you were a nice Jewish girl. Is Greenbaum an homage, like your ikon?

      • Rick O’Shea

        Heh, I’ve never touched the stuff precisely because of what I know it can do to my people.

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      I’m Irish, too. I blush easily and have worked my whole adult life to be more outgoing because I’m quite shy. My dad used to tell me that it was an inherited trait from his side of the family and I believe it. The influence of genes and heredity very much influence who we are as a race. Stereotypes exist because they tend to be for the most part true. It is hard for me to name one member of my family who isn’t alcoholic or has some sort of substance abuse problem. Typical Irish trait. My dad also said that as Europeans, we were probably the dumbest of the lot, with Ashkenazi Jews being the smartest. Also the ones with the most deplorable manners and unfettered avarice. The list goes on, but the point of the article is genetic traits, specifically, empathy. Along these lines you could argue that the negro cannot fully be responsible for his behavior, because what he has to deal with is a somewhat inferior intelligence. Where do you draw the line on this after you open up this can of worms?

      • Samuel Hathaway

        Does your Irish ancestry date back to Ireland or Northern Ireland?

        • Rick O’Shea

          I think you were asking someone else but I’ll answer anyway: for me it’s from Ireland, not Northern Ireland.

      • M.

        Once I heard an old Irish friend of my father’s say: “My old man used to proudly say, ‘We built this country’s prisons, and then we filled them.’

        Makes me smile every time I remember it.

        But more seriously, keep in mind that these tendencies are mere averages, and are found in every other ethnic group. The proportions may vary slightly, that’s all.

      • Kenner

        ‘The dumbest of the lot??’ –Next to the Jews, the Irish are the wittiest.

      • saxonsun

        Don’t forget the Albanians and Bulgarians.

    • Samuel Hathaway

      Congratulations on your 100% Irish ancestry. Marry a good Irish girl, also 100% Irish and keep the trend going. We need more and more of you.

  • Bossman

    Empathy is what makes us human and civilized.

    • ricpic

      If someone is failing out of weakness, an expression of empathy with that person can be one of the most corroding things done to him. A good kick in the rear in that circumstance is actually an act of kindness.

  • White Mom in WDC

    I am now a full on sociopath, one has to be to survive in Amurkistan.

    • Kenner

      You’re manipulating the system, and good for you.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I was having the same argument with silviosilver last week. We have to temporarily abandon tenets of western civilization and start fighting the pirates like pirates. I suggested even bypassing ‘…innocent until proven guilty…’ and silviosilver almost had a stroke.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      You cannot become a sociopath. You are either born one or you are not.

      To many people through the word sociopath around and don’t even know what it means.

      .

      • Thorsted

        Yes, it is a personality disorder. There are some genetic components and some nurture factors in the first years. I think there is a documentary on Youtube on “Iceman” were he speaks with a psychiatrist about his killings and in the end he asks the psychiatrist how he thinks he became who he became. The Dr said that didn´t he not have violent parents that was so violently.He would have been a man that would like activities with adrenalin rush in sports or like it.

  • Dr. Kevin MacDonald talks about this also in detail. good guy.

  • Melvin Bonzarelli

    Levels of empathy exist in a human population in direct proportion to the IQ level of members of that population, which is why … oh, well, you can certainly fill in the rest of this sentence.

    • M.

      There seems to be a correlation between smartness and empathy, yes. But that still doesn’t explain why there are so few East Asians doing charity work in Africa.

  • LHathaway

    “these Northwest Europeans had an edge in adapting to later cultural environments”

    There’s nothing in the article that suggests this. If there is it must be contained in the ‘snipped’ part.

    The irony being this ‘altruism’ that is unique to white western societies may be the result of our ‘anti-racism. Our awareness of the ‘poor plight’ of others. It’s more likely that than something else. If we can just get people of color to share in our superior altruism. Can we do it, or, following our example, they would never be that stupid? We can do it, right, their IQ’s are so low. . .

    I would say I personally have a failure with cognitive empathy at the least. I was abused as a child, I likely felt the outside world was something to be resisted and buttressed against.

    • me

      Well, you still seem to ’empathize’ with the fact of misplaced altruism being harmful to Western society. Sorry for your shitty parents.
      There are things that can be taught, and there are things that cannot be taught. The extremely high incidence of child abuse and neglect, along with the low IQ of ‘people of color’, may have something to do with their lack of empathy, but I have to agree with the above authors and say that it’s also genetic. And, perhaps even something inherent in the soul.

      • LHathaway

        ‘Evolutionary psychology’ aside, from first hand experience I’d say these are learned quantities and not something inbred. Taking a more mainstream view, however, we learn that some things are caused by genetics and others by environmental influence. We’re learning more everyday. Mental illness, alcoholism, drug use, attention deficit disorder, suicide, homosexuality, these things are all caused by genes (so there’s no reason for us to concern ourselves with them?). Everything else wrong in this world is caused by an oppressive system that is unfair to some.

  • Mack0

    It’s like alcoholism, some people have the genes for dependency and never become drunks. Liberals are the alcoholics in a drunken stupor from to much empathy.

    • Thorsted

      I am living in Denmark and we are going from a homogenous population 30.years ago to total destruction now with problems on all scales in society with 3.world immigration and the do-gooders can stop and all the augments you come with funded in empirical data they don´t listen to the just continue like it is an addiction to them. They are the worst junkies in society and they are selling out all to get more drugs ( 3.worlders)

      • Mack0

        It’s a shame the situation in the your beautiful country has deteriorated to such a state. These people don’t believe in facts or logic. They are religious zealots marching towards an apocalypse of their own making. It is their intention to take us all down with them.

        • Periapsis

          Nay, they are genocidal tyrants that must be eliminated by any and all means necessary. They are dangerous, and the only way to stop them is going to be force. It’s either them or us.

        • Thorsted

          Acutully, many knows there is something wrong -but they are also very emotional beyond reason. It is as if is not politics but a religion. But in many european countries many center-left voter are in deep cognitive dissonians. The feel and see one thing but to be nice the vote on the parties as usual -I think this will change within this decade in many countries. Germany will be the last because many germans are censoring themselves because of their past. An right wing party could get around 20-24% in Germany today if a similar party as in Denmark or in France existed -when the rest of Europe start to change Germany will start to follow.

      • M.

        Two questions:

        1. I heard there was an immigration restrictionist party that has become quite popular there recently. How is it doing?

        2. Denmark is a small country. How many third-worlders can they take anyway? From this perspective, this problem could just be a self-correcting one.

        • Thorsted

          1)Yes, right now it is around 20-23% in polls. But actually many center-left voter share the partys views -like in France.

          2) we are around 5.5mio and 400000 from the 3.world and increasing . We right now have a center-left government that lifted restrictions on 3.world immigration. Many are coming to Denmark form the 3.world around 100.a day from arab and african countries to clam asylum -the vast majority is against there coming so the right will come to power in the next year. There is some pressure in the press form some to withdraw Denmark from the UN asylum convention some their not can clam asylum in Denmark. The alternative is to say camps the 3.world and if you come to Denmark you will be repatriated to a camp in Africa. Sweden by the way is close to economic and social collapse .In Finland, Denmark and Norway the look at the Swedes as being a sectarian PC state almost to the religious fanatical. Things will happen in Scandinavia the coming Years. Sweden has not seen the last political murder and the chairman for the anti immigrants party is at risk. Left-wing violence is very normal in Sweden -but the are also many extreme right wing groups there. Norway had its setback because of Breivik mass murder. It was a gift to the left. But I think a setback will come soon.

          • M.

            Yes, I saw that Vice mini-documentary on the far-leftist thugs in Sweden. Youtube “the rise of sweden’s far-left militants” if you want to see it. Not reassuring. But their SD party seems to be making progress, so there’s that.

            I hope the immigration restrictionist folks take control quickly to stop the damage in Denmark, and maybe give some birth incentives to the natives.

            I’ve never been there, but I saw many reports on it on TV. Nice little country with beautiful people. Best of luck.

            Thanks for responding.

          • Thorsted

            Thanks, There is a lot of press censorship in Sweden but not in Denmark. In Sweden there is very professional sites on anti-immigration around 40% of their material comes from Denmark and is translations from danish- these sites are growing by 25% a year with 2.mio visitors a mouth . They say that Denmark is 15.years ahead of Sweden. There is a strong conservative tradition in Denmark that even visitor from Britten is surprised by -it is the material from this environment that comes to Norway and Sweden. The danes are also very anti-autoriterian unlike the swedes.Finland is the lest effected but I think it is the 2.things there 1) Finland is geography is partly Scandinavian and their languish can not be understood by other Scandinavians 2) the Winter war with Russia has also shape Finnish mentality to be patriotic -unlike Sweden with more 200.years of peace -they have become defeatists so they think it will last for ever.

        • Thorsted

          I wrote to you about Finland and i was remembering a Finnish girl I meet at campus 25.years ago. She had the black belt in karate, not so tall . I was told that she was in family with the royal family in Denmark but she was very down earth and funny. She was called the “daughter of the general”. Later I found out the whole story. Her father was the highest decorated general in Finland and was leading the main battle against Russia during winter war. He got 3.girls and a boy with a women from the danish royal family-he was in his late 50th when he married. He raised his daughters like boys -so it explain to me why she could drink all that vodka -so much for a little women!! Her father died at 99-years old and got a state funeral in Finland

      • Yancy Derringer

        Everywhere, simultaneously. So very, very sad.

        • Thorsted

          Yes, It is an invasion with the use of Mahatma Gandhi methods. In history when people became to many to survive they took arms in their hands and tried to invade a country. Today, they can not do that. But there is the Human rights and the asylum conventions and because almost all 3.world countries are failed states and anarchy they can come because our juristriction has become global. This is not about my right within a state -but the rights of the rest of the world. So, old nation states has been exposed for a “Coup etas” by the do-gooder in slow motion.

          If marxism was an egalitarian ideology between individuals -todays ideology is egalitarianism between people.

          Globally they are intolerant and egalitarian -the rest shall be like us. Justice in the whole world. They can not accept multiculturalism on a global level – but when they come to us ,they can say it is an enrichment and they become tolerant and love relativism. It should be the other way around.
          It is the whole idea with the UN -this 70.years liberal utopia has to go with its human rights conventions and other bullshit.All its 3.world members are “failed states” . How can you be member of an organization of states when a majority of the states are “failed” and the others are playing there game. It is only the west that plays the game -stop playing. A over 70.year old liberal idealist idea?-time to die!

  • 48224

    I have long believed that being a sociopath is an evolutionary advantage because those people don’t have a conscience and will do pretty much anything to get what they want or survive.

    • M.

      “I have long believed that being a sociopath is an evolutionary advantage.”

      It’s not. At least not since humans have had some semblance of civilization, and therefore some sort of justice system (lynch law included). And humans have had that for thousands of years now, even in the most primitive societies. Which means that for thousands of years, sociopaths have been most likely to get ostracized and/or executed, and have had less surviving children.

      Today’s sociopaths tend to be so more for psychological reasons (nervous breakdown, etc), than because they inherited sociopathic tendencies.

    • Periapsis

      We are imperiled because the ruling class is by and large a cabal of sociopaths. It is not an evolutionary advantage because impulsive behavior is the norm for them. In the age where the ruling elite could kill 8 billion people with nuclear weapons, that is not a good thing.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        Sociopathic traits seem to be a dominant trait in ruling classes and tyrants alike. Recently i completed a study on Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, Mexican dictator in the 1830s. The author pointed out the traits of a sociopath, which Santa Anna was. After reading the list of traits of a sociopath I thought to myself, Oh my, this sounds just like B. Hussein O.

    • me

      A sociopath usually dies very early, or is eventually locked up in prison or a mental ward. At the very least, they live precarious lives of deception and discord, and usually die alone in misery. Nothing much to envy, if you ask me. I also believe in the ‘unfashionable’ divine retribution after death.

  • Samuel Hathaway

    The article tackles a real social truth, that whites have more empathy in being more deferential to others. I see this in myself as well as especially in my now-sainted dear mother.

    However, as someone who does not believe in evolution, I don’t give evolution credit for it. Altruism and empathy are to be used cautiously, however, motivated by Chrisitan values, rather than believing it to be under the control of evolution. The Bible calls us to discernment, to be wise as serpents, harmless as doves. This is good to remember to avoid throwing away time and resources on those who have an entitlement mentality.

    • me

      There is a BIG problem with “Christians” dragging the Third World into my back yard. Where does it state in the Bible that you have to risk your very life, the lives and futures of your children, and the unvolunteered cooperation of others to risk their lives and the lives and futures of their children, for your misplaced altruism? It was NEVER taught in Sunday school, nor did the churches teach this until the takeover by the Merchants. If the so-called “Christians” want to sacrifice their lives for the ungrateful anti-Christians, then they should do what they used to do–go to the Third World. Don’t drag these anti-Christian, anti-White, covetous, envious, disruptive, and hateful hordes HERE! You’re committing genocide by population replacement!

  • John R

    Just another example of the advancement of the White Northern European. I would add, however, that the one major weakness of this is that such empathy is extended to peoples of different cultures who do not share those same feelings. In the past, Europeans made the distinction between “Christians” and the “heathen” peoples. This was a stand in for racial classification. But, in recent years we have abandoned this, and the result is that all peoples are thought to be the same. The result? Disaster.

    • Thorsted

      Yes, but “we” also tried to turn the “Heathen” into christians because we thought that civilization was in the bible ( “The white mans burden”) -and it didn´t work .The “New bible” is democracy and Human rights and it will not work either.

      • Augustus3709

        You could argue that indeed it did “work”, that the darker races enjoyed a much better life under the guise of White Christian Civilization. It is now with these pillars being pulled down that they are reverting to something even worse than they were before.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    I think whites have more false empathy. Taking in a useless black and helping him is not empathic; it is stupid. Helping your own people first is empathetic. Empathy is not about helping the most pityful person you can find; it is about helping people who need it. A black man doesn’t need to go to Harvard anymore than a hermit crab needs to learn to read Italian. White children need to be educated and nurtured to their full extend. If white truly had empathy, they would dump all the useless minorities and concentrate on their own children/people.

    .

    • Samuel Hathaway

      “A black man doesn’t need to go to Harvard anymore than a hermit crab needs to learn to read Italian.” Now, THAT sentence was my hearty, belly laugh for the day. This was a great line.

      My father enountered an elderly lady from Europe, her name was Ms. German, and she was stranded in a snow-storm at the airport. He offered to bring her home and stay with us a couple nights. She was a wonderful lady, I’ll never forget her. My mom used to travel to Europe quite often and they talked for hours about Europe. This is the kind of empathy we whites really need to have.

    • Thorsted

      I think there is a lot of narcism in being a politically correct do-gooder- it is a secular form of calvinism or puritanism. They think they are secular -but why all this hypocrisy and rejections of empirical facts? They religious not rational.

      • me

        Being religious and being rational are not mutually exclusive. However, the Merchants have usurped organized religion, and have shoved their ‘egalitarian’ cult down everyone’s throat. Did any Christian church ever preach this type of insanity before the 20th century? NOPE!

    • Jack Burton

      I agree, it’s not empathy, it’s ingroup competition, self-hatred if anything. Where is the empathy for what whites have to suffer through? I’m calling BS on this.

      Kevin MacDonald likes to write on this foolishness as well. He drones on and on about how whites are so individualistic, it’s in their DNA, and how blacks are “hypermasculine.” What absurd nonsense. How the hell can a slave class since recorded history be “hypermasculine?” No, they’re hyperprimitive, hyperstupid, hyperpsychopathic, that’s not the same. Then he calls the white warriors who conquered and civilized the Americas and created a civilization from nothing not masculine. F off with that nonsense.

      • me

        If you’ve not been to any of the indoctrination centers known as ‘universities’ lately, you’ll be horrified to learn that you may be in the minority. The feminists and egalitarians have taken over, just like female hyenas and their growth of their mutated ‘penises’. You are a dying breed of masculinity. And you’re right about the Negro ‘masculinity’–it’s just the emboldened behavior of the feral, overly-coddled pavement ape that has no accountability in today’s insane Amerika.

        • Jack Burton

          What the hell are you talking about? If people like me were in the majority our problems would be solved.

          Even in pro-white circles I’m in the minority.

          However, I believe that there is a spark of what I speak of in most white European males, it just needs to be kindled. My fire is already burning bright.

        • kikz2

          they don’t bother to masquerade as egalitarians……equal? their reply to that is a silent/mute “f that’……. its vengence time….on the evil White race. they’ve found a weak spot and are going to exploit it to the hilt.

  • MBlanc46

    Empathy has very likely been adaptive for creating civilization. Apparently it’s maladaptive when whites encounter less civilized populations.

  • IKUredux

    This is fing depressing. Obviously, the only way to advance as a society(in any meaningful way), is to be non-tribal. The difference between White Europeans, and the rest of the colored world is this: We finally got over killing each other. Now, you might argue, well, it took you long enough. Fact of the matter remains is that the different Africans are fighting each other. The different Indian people are fighting each other. The different Asian people are fighting each other. And yet, those conquering, bloodthirsty, rampaging, imperialistic Europeans, have become “tame”. Amazing, isn’t it? One would think, that for this to happen, we Whites must have been defeated in a terrible war, where all the non-Whites, decided to gang up on we Whites. And, then, of course, being horribly outnumbered by one hundred to one, or, some such, we were soundly defeated, and the conquering armies took over our countries. Changing our cultures, our religious beliefs, our laws, and, well, EVERYTHING!!! I believe that Whites have accomplished what we have because we were able to rise above being clannish. We have been basing everything we do vis a vis the third world on the premise that the colored hordes were exactly like us. They are not. The colored masses still need to be tribal. They have not evolved past their primitive forbears. It is reckless, and suicidal to assume the other races are the equals of Whites.We Whites are trying to tell nature that ten thousand years of development, matters not.

  • Paul

    ‘ East Asian societies have pursued a similar path of cultural evolution while having relatively low levels of affective empathy and empathic guilt’??

    What? They simply stole our technology.

    Ps go away Engelman.

  • LHathaway

    There’s something ironic in listing ‘whites greater altruism’ as an example of white superiority, and being proud of it, when this ‘greater altruism’ is a result of their ‘anti-racism’ and their awareness of the ‘poor plight’ of others. This ‘altruism’ or ‘white supremacy’ will likely be our undoing, or our death. I know I’ve said this before, but sometimes you have to say things twice.

    • Thorsted

      You are right. The is an evolutionary conflict. It is a social behavior that made sense before but because of social changes in the environment and input it becomes maladaptive. There is much of these evolutionary conflicts in medicine and psychology.

      • LHathaway

        Whites ‘altruism’ is a social construct.

    • Jack Burton

      Where was all of this greater altruism through the terrible wars in ancient times and during WW1 and WW2? Most of the “great individualism and empathy” have occurred in the last 150 years, that’s not genetic.

      • Beloved Comrade

        If our ancestors were altruistic, there would be no White race.

      • LHathaway

        I gave you a positive vote and I agree with you, but how many of these wars were fought were both sides felt they were doing the right thing and feelings were aroused of some kind?

        • Jack Burton

          Your comment doesn’t make any sense.

          By nature people believe they are doing the right thing, otherwise they wouldn’t do it. That has no bearing on the actual value of their behavior, as humans are often irrational.

          • LHathaway

            I was just pointing that out. Soldiers on both sides felt they were doing the right thing. Newspapers on both sides told them going off to war was the right thing to do, because, the other side was so bad, normally. Nowadays, all this ‘right-thinking’, printing and writing includes places like message boards and YouTube videos.

  • Gary John 金白龍

    So in diverse societies, non-Whites are taught to take advantage of White guilt and compassion, and dumb Whites think non-Whites will reciprocate the same levels of compassion.

    But they cant. Why? Races are biologically different.

    And yet our retarded governments cannot understand this.

    • Thorsted

      I think it funny if is raised in a debate people starts to be hysterical and starts saying that “one supports racial theory” as if it was a kind a prejudgement. But that statement can also be made the other way -that the equality of humans is a race is a theory and a prejudgement.
      In the 1950 the UN made a commission under UNESCO with of leftist anthropologist and one biologist and they came out and said all races are equal. From there it to 10.years to rewrite textbook in the education system. And here we are today.

      • Beloved Comrade

        It started with Boas in the anthropology depts. of major universities in the early 20s when Darwinism was replaced by Cultural Marxism. Boas declared all races were the same, even if data had to be manipulated and twisted, along with the line that race is a social construct. This became dogma at American universities and is still pushed by accolades of Boas, Gould, et. al.

        If we were to select the most intelligent, imaginative, energetic, and emotionally stable third of mankind, all races would be present.
        –Franz Boas.

        I believe behind closed doors they well know there are racial difference in intelligence, behavior, levels of violence etc., but this dogma was pushed on us Whites in order to destroy White civilization and justify open borders to the 3rd world.

        We’re just replacing ourselves with those of equal value, according to this twisted narrative, so why are you complaining?

        It’s all part of the War on Whites/ White Genocide agenda to make sure the last one of us is eliminated.

        • Augustus3709

          It has occurred to me:

          There’s college, and then there’s college.

          The vast majority of “Universities” today are nothing more than debt and indoctrination centers.

          There’s a reason why only 3% of the population used to go to college. That was when college was REAL. Now they want everybody and their uncle in a classroom, racking up debt and wasting away with useless leftist dogmas.

    • Beloved Comrade

      Oh, the “retarded” government well understands this. They are masters of using our White altruism against us.

  • Jack Burton

    I don’t buy it, not universally for Northwest Europeans. The South is Northwest European, in fact we’re even a higher percentage of Northwest European than Yankees, yet we have traditionally been very racialist. Even after the Civil War we were still racialist, still defiant, not showing this supposed “affected empathy” for outgroup members. It took them integrating us at gunpoint again.

    Either there is a specific type of NW European or religion and constant propaganda are the majority causes, mostly contributed by the hostile non-European elite that we’re all aware of.

    • Mack0

      It may very well be the effects of constant social pressure applied over generations on a population predisposed to excessive empathy.

      • Jack Burton

        People with “excessive empathy” don’t require a war and military enforced integration. The South was held at gunpoint, like Germany we’re occupied, and now we’re reading this nonsense about how we’re all affected empathic individualists.

        Do you really think that if the propaganda machine, forced integration, the emotional bullying/shaming in the media , threats of violence, black protests and anti-white organizations and lawyers stopped their abuse against whites that whites wouldn’t naturally resegregate? Of course they would. Any white in their right mind would. We’re living under an anti-white soft tyranny.

  • MooTieFighter

    It works so well when we all have it. It destroys us when we apply it to those that hate us.

  • Mrfinoni

    To understand the bible you must understand context. Likewise, Western Liberalism and its progeny such as radical feminism, socialism…. etc…etc.. were born in a certain context. We the West have been reeling since the horrors of the 20th Century. World Wars 1&2, Global communism….. etc. The only real players on the planet even today are the elite White Europeans regardless of where they live, Americans, British, French, Russians…etc..etc..are all Europeans. Its GENETIC!!!! I have come to understand that Whites are rightly afraid of their own power. That is why the elite Whites are working so hard propping up the 3rd world by giving them trillions of dollars and using their propaganda machine to make Western Whites hold the darker races in higher esteem. Go to any frat party or Finnish sauna and it is plainly obvious that Whites will never accept other races as equal. If we accepted them as equal we wouldn’t be giving them trillions of dollars in aid, and setting them up in our own societies with cradle to grave social welfare.

    • Augustus3709

      Whites are systematically brainwashed by the hostile culture into fearing White power, –that it always leads to something bad. But that is an intentional misinterpretation of history. White people didn’t fear their power when they were exploring the planet and charting the oceans, conquering enemies and building nations. Where was the self-fear then? The modern mindset is fake. Average Whites are just trying to fit in, inside an anti-White culture. That is the insane part of it.

  • “In these cultures, guilt outweighs shame as a way to enforce social rules.”

    I would argue that guilt outweighs shame in every aspect in these cultures. The guilt
    of white Britons and their supposed ‘racism’ outweighs the shame of their female
    children being grossly abused and tortured by the men of other races. These paedophiles
    would have been executed in China, and their families would receive a bill for
    the bullets. And that would be the lightest sentence.

  • saxonsun

    It’s good for our people and bad when dealing with non-whites.

  • Sam_Bowdin

    Its apparently time to start un-feeling empathy, if Whites are to survive.

  • White existence is racist within itself.

    White extinction is essential for anti-racism.

    Can we all agree that liberalism is psychotic?

    • AndrewInterrupted

      White extinction is essential for egalitarianism.

  • Nancy

    Love this, Mr. Taylor!

    I’m currently doing some research into a parallel topic, and this further supports my conclusions.

    Also (an interesting side note): The last few years of my classroom teaching had me up to my eyeballs in Special Ed. middle- and high-schoolers. Many of them had Asperger’s as well (lots of fun, that).

    One of the main characteristics of the Aspie students was called “social blindness”, which seems to be the exact same thing as cognitive empathy. They simply had no ability to put themselves in another’s shoes. My current research is finding this prevalent in minorities with personality disorders as well (more so than whites with similar personality disorders). They just don’t experience the same levels of guilt that whites do.

  • boot70

    Yes when a white robs,rapes and murders he is rightly called a low empathy psycopath,when blacks do it nobody barely raises an eyebrow.why is that?.

  • Man of the West

    I’m not convinced that most blacks have any empathy intra-group much less any four outsiders. I seldom see them developing long term pair bonding with a spouse which suggests a real problem with forming an emotional bond with another person. In addition, the strong propensity to mindless violence, for the pure purpose of entertainment, suggest an inability to view pers are truly human. These are both hallmarks of a sociopathic personality and may go a long way, when coupled with low IQ, to explain all of the social pathologies in that population. Regardless, we are different people. We have crazies but on the fringes, not in the majority.

  • Paleoconn

    Empathy is essential for a healthy community. But when that community is no longer homogenous, it is counterproductive for the most empathic race, if not suicidal.