How the GOP Lost Middle America

Patrick Buchanan, Vdare.com, January 30, 2014

Out of the Republican retreat on Maryland’s Eastern shore comes word that the House leadership is raising the white flag of surrender on immigration.

The GOP will agree to halt the deportation of 12 million illegal aliens and sign on to a blanket amnesty. It only asks that the 12 million not be put on a path to citizenship.

Sorry, but losers do not dictate terms. Rich Trumka of the AFL-CIO says amnesty is no longer enough. Illegal aliens must be put on a path to citizenship and given green cards to work–and join unions.

Rep. Paul Ryan and the Wall Street Journal are for throwing in the towel. Legalize them all and start them on the path to citizenship.

A full and final capitulation. Let’s get it over with.

To understand why and how the Republican Party lost Middle America, and faces demographic death, we need to go back to Bush I.

At the Cold War’s end, the GOP reached a fork in the road. The determination of Middle Americans to preserve the country they grew up in suddenly collided with the profit motive of Corporate America.

The Fortune 500 wanted to close factories in the USA and ship production abroad–where unions did not exist, regulations were light, taxes were low, and wages were a fraction of what they were here in America.

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While manufacturing sought to move production abroad, hotels, motels, bars, restaurants, farms and construction companies that could not move abroad also wanted to replace their expensive American workers.

Thanks to the Republican Party, Corporate America got it all.

U.S. factories in the scores of thousands were shut down, shedding their American workers. Foreign-made goods poured in, filling U.S. stores and killing the manufacturers who had stayed behind, loyal to their U.S. workers.

The Reagan prosperity was exported to Asia and China by the Bush Republicans. And the Reagan Democrats reciprocated by deserting the Bush Republican Party and going home. But this was not the end of what this writer described in his 1998 book, “The Great Betrayal.”

As those hotels, motels, restaurants, bars, fast-food shops, car washes, groceries and other service industries also relished the rewards of cheap foreign labor, they got government assistance in replacing their American workers.

Since 1990, some 30 to 40 million immigrants, legal and illegal, have entered the country. This huge increase in the labor force, at the same time the U.S. was shipping factories abroad, brought massive downward pressure on wages. The real wages of Middle Americans have stagnated for decades.

What was wildly wonderful for Corporate America was hell on Middle America. But the Republican Party had made its choice. It had sold its soul to the multinationals. And as it went along with NAFTA, GATT, fast track and mass immigration, to appease Corporate America, it lost Middle America.

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When Republicans accede to the demand for amnesty, and immigration without end, it does not take a political genius to see what is going to happen. For it is happening now.

Almost all of those breaking our laws, crossing the border and overstaying their visas are young, poor or working class. Between 80 and 90 percent are from Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Latin America.

They are Third World peoples. They believe in government action and government programs that provide their families with free education, health care, housing, food and income subsidies. They are not Bob Taft or Barry Goldwater conservatives.

Perhaps 85 percent of all immigrants, legal and illegal, more than a million a year now, are people of color. And while over 70 percent of Hispanics and Asians voted Democratic for Obama, among voters of African descent, the Obama vote was well above 90 percent.

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As has been observed often, America, demographically, is going to look like California. And while Nixon won California all five times he was on a national ticket, and Reagan won California in landslides all four times he ran, California has not gone Republican in six straight presidential elections.

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If Bush I had built that border fence back in 1992 and declared a moratorium on legal immigration that fall, as many implored him to do, the party of the Bushes would not be facing its demise well before mid-century.

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  • Erasmus

    I should have voted for Perot in ’92, instead of wasting it on Poppy Bush.

    • LACounty

      I voted for him but I don’t think it would have mattered. The puppeteers had long been in control.

      • Erasmus

        While I think you are correct, had I voted for Perot, I wouldn’t now have this self-loathing for throwing away my vote on Poppy.

        • LACounty

          If it makes you feel any better, I voted for him (Bush1) the first go-round.

          • Ella

            So did I……..sigh but I refused to vote for Bush Jr. I came to my senses.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          Remember that Perot split the conservative vote and that’s how Clinton got elected. The only way to get a Republican elected again is to make sure the Dems have two strong, competitive candidates that will not give up to the other. But I don’t think that’s likely.

          • I don’t think that conventional wisdom is necessarily true. It relies on the assumption that most Perot voters would have voted Bush but for Perot.

            My mother voted Perot but would have stayed home but for Perot waging a credible campaign.

            At about election day, a credible national poll which got close to the actual result between Clinton-Bush-Perot also asked Clinton-Bush only in the same poll, and the result was 48/48 tie. But even that’s problematic because in the real world, Perot did run. If he never did, Clinton’s and Bush’s strategy and other circumstances beyond their control would have been different.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            In the summer of 1992, Perot was actually ahead of both of them in a couple polls.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah it’s a big iffy what-if.

            At the time I (prezzy of my university’s YD’s) was thankful Perot ran because I thought Bush 1 would have won otherwise, but in retrospect who knows?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Well, Perot and Bush41 could have been considered both fiscal conservatives. So that part jives.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Clinton was sharp in his time. Manbearpig (Gore) was the best VP of the three too.

            Quayle…not as bad as Palin, but…a gift that kept on giving nonetheless…

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Quayle was an enigma. People who knew him off camera said he was sharp as a tack. He’s one of those people who goes camera goofy I think.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Which was all that mattered in that game.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            We also saw Saul Alinksy’s rule at work. Just as the MSM decided they didn’t like Howard Dean and played that howl 24/7, the MSM did the same thing with Quayle’s archaic spelling of potatoe.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            YES! Poor old Howie. That was quite unfair, and actually pretty dirty, lol. The noise level in the room made it almost impossible to hear him if you ere there…

            Was funny though.

            But I’m sorry, don’t mean to harp, but…

            When Flippy Mac chose that unvetted mushmouthed MILF as his running mate…

            What was he or any other Pub thinking???? I knew lifelong Pubs who disliked blacks who either sat home or actually voted O…because of her.

            Sure the media had a field day but…how could they not have? I lost so much respect for McCain then…

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I know exactly what happened——–> more Alinsky. Force your enemy into unfamiliar territory where the become confused.
            They knew they’d be up against diversity darlings–some combination thereof–they thought it would be Hillary–so they were serving up a like demographic. They fell for it. Then the MSM appartchiks like Tina fay proceeded to rip her to shreds. That apparatus is also one of Alinksy’s rules.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            We could do worse than utilize that fellow’s tactics. But then politically, who are “we”?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Countering with their own dirty tactics is our only hope. Sun Tzu the situation. Think dirty like them–then dirtier.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Absolutely. Hate him all you want, Alinsky was a political genius. Rove was pretty sharp too. The pubs seem eminently bereft and bankrupt of such talent these days.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, it’s a race to the bottom–so race to the bottom. It’s not complicated.

          • Not fond of Karl Roverrated, and I never thought he was that good, even before the days starting in Fall 2012 when I came to despise every fibre of his existence. Lee Atwater, from whom Roverrated supposedly learned the trade, did know how to work it. Unfortunately, his work consisted of scamming us into Bush 41.

            But Atwater’s brutal attitude is what we need.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            A fellow Souf Crakalakan that one. Lord how I hated him at the time. But yeah…better than Rove.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            You know…speaking of idiocracy, below…
            The Palin decision. Maybe I should follow my own advice and just Occam this thing, see the obvious…
            Dems – cool charismatic mulatto guy the youngsters like…
            Counter with HOT MILF!
            Just look at the apparent lack of vetting.

          • Pelagian

            She *is* extremely hot. First pic i saw of her she had those nerdy glasses on and I thought she was the hot Comptroller MILF. Instead she was the hot airhead/fundie MILF. The former would have helped McCain. Either way, I’d be all over it like white on rice.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            OK, maybe more like the hot librarian.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            One poster has a comment in moderation about too much talk of Alinsky–too much plugging Alinsky into everything. I mostly agree. That is an old template. I’m constantly defining the evolving Leftist template.

            But, there are still examples of Rules For Radicals that can be found. The problem with the Right is that they don’t understand leftist tactics.

            The Palin thing happens to be classic Alinsky. McCain and the GOP got completely suckered. The began looking for a hot, middle-aged female before Obama won the Demo-rat primary. This was for the purpose of serving up a demographic like Hillary, only prettier–and less corrupt. But, also like Hillary, a half term, default Governor from AK wasn’t ready for prime-time. And a demographic that could counter any diversity darling, like O’Bummer.

            Being coaxed into doing the Diversity Dumb-Down-Drill (going 3D) arena was the GOP’s fatal mistake. This is Alinsky RFR Rule #3.

            The Demo-rats are the party of appearances, the Repugs are the party of performances. The GOP was coaxed into playing on their tilted playing field–the playing field of appearances. There they became confused from the unfamiliarity and summarily slaughtered by the Apparatchiks waiting in the wings, like Tina Fay. This comprised three more RFR rules, Rule #4, 10, and especially #13. Nearly the whole RFR template was thrown at them here–and they still seem to be clueless about what had hit them.

            And they still prop Palin up 5 years later, reminding the Demo-rats how stupid their enemy is. Their shiny badge of gullibility. They should have excommunicated McCain and Palin right after the election and marketed her as a Demo-rat induced social engineering disaster. A dirty trick:

            “Yup–you got us. You tricked us into playing your game: Appearances over Performances. That’s what you guys are about and we fell for it. We should have stuck with our core principles and served up the most qualified candidates to lead America, not just the prettiest”.

            That would have been my counterattack. Repugs are idiots. By now, everyone should have been saying “Palin who?” And yet they still keep her around for self flagellation purposes.

          • Sick of it

            It should be noted that, while I’m not a Palin fan, McCain was the worse of the two. Surely people have come to realize that by now. He might as well be a card-carrying member of the Communist Party.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Respondeat Superior if nothing else regarding McCain and Palin.

          • Tom B

            McCain was answering the the NeoCons even before they were formed.

          • “Manbearpig (Gore)” – LOL!!!

          • John K

            Palin is not the imbecile everyone makes her out to be. She cut out a lot of corruption and overspending in Alaska, and was the reason that fool McCain even came close to Obama in the polls. McCain knew about Obama’s voter fraud and had proof of it, but he buried the evidence and blamed Palin for ruining his campaign. I bet he was laughing at her the whole time. We should change his nickname from Maverick to”The Fall Guy”.

            The Republitards were finished long before then anyway. Even if you vote for them, you still get a Democrat.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I think she was cute too, had her good points, but…

            As someone who was on the other side I’m telling you…

            Chum for the sharks. Blood in the water. Broad side of the barn.

          • If you want my more in depth (i.e. rambling on and on) thoughts about that:

            countenance dot wordpress dot com/2009/10/11/the-1992-that-wasnt/

            Andrew:

            Definitely in May Perot was on top. Clinton was so far back in third that Jay Leno’s joke, (this was just after he took over the Tonight show day to day, and now he’s about to end it) was that: “How do you pronounce the name of the third candidate in this race? Clin-TON.”

          • NeanderthalDNA

            That was an exciting race regardless of outcome. Perot really threw a monkey wrench in that one.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It showed us one silver lining—-that a 3rd Party is technically possible.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yes. Our presidential system is not a bicycle built for more than two. A third wheel could win with 33.4% of the vote in many local elections.

            Electoral? To Congress…still a monkey wrench…

            Perhaps the pub’s shift to Don Juan Beanerdom could open some possibilities…

            But regardless of presidency, a third wheel party could win many state and local elections, get a real discussion going, set a foundation.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Good point. see my modified response below.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The Electoral College has been the bane of everyone’s existence.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yes, though I kind of like the way some states divide it up by districts. More later but gotta go.

          • refocus

            During the 1992 Presidential campaign Ross Perot observed that “a
            general lack of accountability among elected officials and those in the bureaucracy was the one specific reason that the people in America suffered”.

            Mr. Perot then suggested that the best and perhaps only way to make government officials accountable was to include the citizens in the decision making process. He went on to note that this can easily be done with computers and called the proposed mechanism THE ELECTRONIC TOWNHALL.

            With this computer program every citizen can indicate whether or not they agree or disagree with every law, policy and program on the books or that was being advanced. It can work for every level of government and in every jurisdiction.

            The Constitution and Bill of Rights would be exempt from review but the various laws and government policies that do effect each and every one of us would be available for the citizens ratification or annulment. The program would even allow a citizen to go back and change his vote as he matured.

            The gray area…
            As the data is collected, a reasonable person would expect that the
            government officials would modify the laws, policies, and programs and make them congruent with the will of the people they are supposed to be representing.

            With tens of millions of laws there is plenty of work to be done.

            According to Mr. Perot, this, the harnessed experience and the combined intelligence of hundreds of thousands or even millions of citizens focused like a laser light on the real issues, will, as surely as night follows the day, perfect every law in our country and eventually it will right every wrong.

            Mr. Perot publicly announced his intention to give the people in America the ELECTRONIC TOWNHALL if he was elected President.

            But this modern concept for truly representative self government was so far removed from the business-as-usual-two-party-system that the talking heads, trolls, and cointelpro agents yelled out that Mr. Perot was trying to destroy our Constitution, our government and our way of life.

            A reading of The Constitution shows that the founders specified the representation of one congressman for every thirty five thousand persons. Today we have one congressman for every 650,000 persons. None the less, and certainly not to be swayed by the facts, the media was so intensely negative towards the ELECTRONIC TOWNHALL that Mr. Perot was forced to stop talking about it.

            We now enter our fifth national election cycle since the introduction of the concept. No other person of national reputation or of significant influence has since picked up the idea, but the talking heads for both parties regularly stage “townhall meetings” where they talk of “reform” and “returning power to the people”. Thus they try to ingratiate themselves with those who share a favorable sub-consciousness towards the idea without actually adding to its manifestation.

            We are offered only one solution: “candidates with a sense of morality and respect for the Constitution who really understand true brotherhood, justice and democracy and who will do the right thing for us each and every time”. Many of these same people denounce the ELECTONIC TOWNHALL as unworkable. They claim that allowing the average citizen to pass judgment on public law is tantamount to anarchy. But the truth is: only the concerned will bother to participate.

            While we cannot make light of sincere individuals we must acknowledge the fact that regardless of who has been elected to public office the problems in our government get more complicated and our people continue to suffer.

            It appears obvious; we need something besides business as usual.

            Could we possibly admit that our national situation, now being made global, is far too complicated for the President and the 535 elected members of the legislature to manage in our best interests?

            You, the person reading this know some of the things we need.
            Your friends, our fellow countrymen have their solutions too.

            But the only way to organize the workable ideas is to create a device that will enable all of us to simultaneously contribute our best thinking and most benevolent experience towards solving our most complicated problems.

            That device is THE ELECTRONIC TOWNHALL and the place to begin is with our existing laws.

            In 1996 Rush Limbaugh mentioned the demonstration site by accident. We got 15 thousand hits in 24 hours and 4 thousand people answered the homepage survey question: (after some preamble)

            *How long should a legally arrived elderly immigrant have to wait before they start collecting social security?*

            In less than two weeks the US Congress changed the criteria from 6 months to two years.

            As living witnesses to the political power this device holds for civilized humanity, we urge you to participate fully in the prototype ELECTRONIC TOWNHALL and forward the news of its existence to all those you know to be interested in the future well being of the people of our country.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Jeepers creepers, and I thought I was a Perot follower…<;-)

            Thanks for refreshing my memory on the electronic townhall thing.

            NUMBERSUSA.COM is doing something like that with their robo-faxes–and it's driving the gangsters nuts.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Very well stated and good argument but I still disagree.
            I fear an electronic town hall thing would be as fraught with danger as our current election process regarding fraud and such – perhaps even more so.
            Furthermore with the “Californication” of the country’s demographics…
            Honestly I’ve grown very suspicious of that word “democracy” and what it really means in the mouths of many whether thy will admit it or not. Tyranny of the majority, mob rule, or what I refer to as “totalitarian democracy”. Honestly I think we have too many elected officials as it is, a squawking henhouse of mediocrity and pandering posers…
            I think we need a “Cromwellian” interregnum to clean house more than an easily manipulated e-democracy.
            But well thought out and presented, your case. A few years ago I might have agreed, but…

          • Epiminondas

            The problem with bringing in a temporary dictatorship is the period that is subsequent to that regime. In Cromwell’s case, his rule was followed by a licentious period known as the Restoration. Everything Cromwell hated came storming back. So be careful what you wish for.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            True, but then Britain proceeded her zenith of power and influence.

            Hard to say cause and effect. History never repeats itself – but it does often resemble itself.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Exactly, one should be very careful what he wishes for, he just might get it and find out that it’s not what he though it was.

          • refocus

            # 1 Fraud would be easily detectable and side stepped the same way the credit card companies do it.

            Perhaps I did not properly sketch the workings of the Electronic Townhall. Established law would be ratified or annuled.

            Example:

            Should elderly immigrants get social security? or

            Should NAFTA be repealed? or

            Should ObamaCare be repealed?

            New laws…

            Should a time limit be placed on legal pornographic images displayed on the Internet?

            #2 Furthermore with the “Californication” of the country’s demographics…

            it would be necessary to be a citizen to vote and a poll tax could be assessed to weed out the totally undesirable.

            # 3 Honestly I think we have too many elected officials as it is, a squawking henhouse of mediocrity and pandering posers…

            — this is exactly what Mr. Perot stated in the prolog.

            The magnum opus of marketing text books DIFFUSION OF INNOVATIONS begins by acknowledging that new ideas are painful to at least 85% of the population… but when we recognize the fact that,

            # 1) NOT ONE US Congressman saw even one line of the 186,000 lines of text in just the ObamaCare Bill, and that,

            #2 NINETY NINE other bills were voted on the same day ObamaCare was passed into law,

            then…

            something fundamental has to change in the legislative process or we are really completely doomed.

            Our future is being decided.

            There is no way that this type of E democracy can be manipulated provided that the process is transparent BECAUSE the entire sapient population cannot be bought off, threatened or blackmailed.

            As it is now we do not stand a chance.

          • M&S

            As others have suggested, any ‘voting’ system which is subject to volunteers from a given group hand-counting (and adding multiple dead people under their own hands) or electronically subject to skewing bias by simple candidate/amendment is one which invites the crowd sourcing to be corrupted.
            But beyond this is the reality of levels of stupidity as divergent interest which would have to be contained lest an R-Breeding demographic be convinced to take control by becoming politically active ‘because the racist minority are taking away our welfare!’
            As such you would have to have weekly contextual tests beyond simple multiple-choice (certain context sensitive words having to be pulled from summaries and used correctly to answer a question) to allow for participation. This would discourage the illiterate and force the poverty classes to up their game before they could influence subjects of interest.
            Myself, it would be better, on the road to a system like this, if we simply reduced the 500 Kings Theory anonymity for law makers as a conspiracy of consensus. And further to this restricted the number of laws up for consideration at any one time and the number of people who could vote for or against it as a function of it being illegal to lobby or vote for laws which effected your State or any company operating therein. It being further illegal, with a 20 year sentence, to take or receive bribes or contributions, before or after holding office in any company for which you ever voted.
            In trade for which, all top level governmental salaries would have to be increased by at least a factor of 10 so that people who had ‘no interest’ in applying their commercial/business/legal skills to a time in office might suddenly be tempted by 2-4 million per year salaries and we could start buying quality back into the system.
            Finally, every major topic of more than say 5 million dollars in a budget would have to have floor debate and every legislator be present for a statistically significant number of those debates in order to vote. Failure to debate and to vote being tantamount to justification for recall on a _yearly_ basis of judged loyalty to campaign principles.
            Force people to accountability at the same time you tempt quality of leadership into office and you automatically create a combination of competition with personal ethics that is better than today’s standard where 90% of the legislation passing through the Senate is not debated and voted by proxy.
            It’s easier to control and oversee this group than it is to rely on vetting crowd source for bias, stupidity and corrupt influences as well.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I will see what you’ve got.

          • Rhialto

            You allude to an important point. It’s meaningless to change one historical event and pretend everything else remains the same.

            It may be a good premise for speculative fiction: If the South had won; If Adolf Hitler had been killed in WWI, if H. Rodham-Clinton had become prez in 2008; etc., etc. In the real world, it’s irrelevant. What happened, happened; what didn’t happen didn’t happen. End of discussion!

          • One can buy a book about “what if” history, then read it.

            Once you’re done with it, put it in the same garbage box that’ll never see the light of day in your garage with that device that gives you rock hard abs if you use it only five minutes a day three times a week, and the bottle of non-pharmological substances that’ll do the same thing as the blue pills but costs way less.

            Snake oil, all of it.

            There are way too many variables in the real world and in real history, that if you changed one, it would take all the computing power man has ever invented to figure out how things would have turned out. Even then you can’t trust it, because computer models had us both burning up from global warming and freezing to death by global cooling by this time.

          • Sick of it

            Those computer models were based upon fraudulent data.

          • Even if they were based on real data, there are still lots and lots and lots of variables that aren’t known to us, and even if we did know them, five different runs of projecting Earth’s climate 100 years out would produce five different results.

        • Who Me?

          I voted for Perot, for all the good that did…

          • refocus

            If you had voted for Bill Clinton you would be a recognizable winner and all the hot girls would love you.

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        Nonsense, Reagan had been president for two terms and Bush1 after him. Before that we had Ford and Nixon. We’ve had more Republican presidents than Dems in the past 40 years. It’s just that they misrule so badly and are now so lame that they can’t possibly be elected. But who can? That’s what I wonder. Hillary will be the end of the U.S.

        • LACounty

          Not sure what I said you don’t agree with. That Perot wouldn’t have made a difference, or that we’ve been ruled by puppeteers.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Hard to see how one man, even a president, could have really turned everything around.

            I think we’re living on borrowed time, but it could be a while yet. Rome lurched on – on its inertia for a couple or three centuries at least after the rot set in.

            But then they didn’t have massive influxes of low IQ types, they just rotted themselves. As much as I love my people, we’ve rotted to a great extent too I’m afraid.

          • Sick of it

            With the full resources of the Executive, a President could launch criminal investigations that would remove almost every politician from office, prevent criminals from attaining office, showcase the corruption in the system, etc. A President could order the military to defend the border – No more immigration. A President could demand that our currency be backed by precious metals and work through procurement agents to ensure that it is done. Presidents can also not send troops all over the world and order troops home who are languishing in random parts of the world which have nothing to do with us. Presidents have a lot of power and potential to do good, if they gave a d*mn.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Good points. Look at what el prezzy is doing now with execumative privlij…

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Watch out. If you really want to engage that guy you should start talking about Tolkien and Star Wars. He thinks Star Wars is better than LOTR and he’ll tell you why.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Had Perot not got squirrely he would have won and so would Whitey.Of course we don’t know the real extent of the intimidation of him and his family by the usual suspects.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Yeah, that was weird. I think they were death threats. He just toned it down to prevent too much media hype. That was a critical stitch in time that went the wrong way.

        • refocus

          What else could Mr. Perot have done?

          Commit suicide?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Like Rommel?

      • NeanderthalDNA

        He could have picked better than poor old admiral Belltone for a running mate. Still a better choice than Sara Palin for “Flippy Mac” as I used to call McCain, lol…

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yeah, the Stockdale VP debate was part of the whole crash&burn process after Perot popped ahead in the summer polls.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Oh yeah. I loved admiral Belltone, lol. I was worried until then.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            He was actually the A6 squadron leader during the Gulf of Tonkin incident. The event he later said was a lie on LBJ’s part. One of many.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Oh he was really a sharp guy, just not…the most photogenic nor politically savvy.

            Ever seen that movie, “Idiocracy”? Modern America seems to be really sliding that direction does it not?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I actually meant the one in bold print a few paragraphs up, but yes ‘idiocracy’ is in my top 5

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Ah. This forum gets a little confusing sometimes…

            Check out “Dredd” on Netflix. Very good flick, very believable dystopia.

            No Stallone.

      • the sound the flood the hour

        I read somewhere that he dropped out of the 92 race over concerns for the safety of his family. I don’t remember the source so don’t quote me on that. Anyway, his debate with gore over nafta on larry king is quite prophetic. I’m watching it for the first time right now.

    • D.B. Cooper

      I was so disgusted at Dole’s strategy of “prevent defense”, that I didn’t even vote in ’96.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yeah, he was the only anti-NAFTA candidate of the three. I voted for him.

      • Sick of it

        I was just a kid, but he seemed more interesting than the other guys. I remember thinking that Clinton was sleazy even when I was a kid. Too bad so-called adults couldn’t see that.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          It was a timing thing, too. He peaked in the polls a few months early.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            I remember him saying that he was being threatened by Republican thugs. I thought he was a nutcase at the time, but since then, I’ve learned a lot and I wonder.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It was very bizarre.

            He basically said that he was no longer running because someone ‘…..threatened to disrupt his daughter’s wedding’. They even produced the guy’s name and picture. He turned out to be some hack Paparazzi wannabee of some sort.

            Since Perot could have hired half the retired Navy SEALs in the country to cover security for his daughter’s wedding, that excuse was hollow. There had to have been a bigger threat. Or maybe Ross was just a flake? I know Ed Rollins broke off the advisor gig with him in a huff.

            So, we all went to the polls to vote for a guy who was on the ballot in all 50 states–but said he was no longer running.

            Bizarro-world.

    • JohnEngelman

      I was in favor of NAFTA when it was signed into law. Over time I have come to recognize that Ross Perot’s arguments against it were valid.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        The famous ‘….giant sucking sound’ quote.

      • Sick of it

        Reality trumps ideology every time.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Eventually. Like after it all completely implodes…

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        I was against it from the start, and Perot was right.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Me too.
        Funny. Even when I was a liblefty I always liked a lot of the paleocons and their ideas, like Pat Buchannan.

        • Erasmus

          I hated NAFTA from the get-go and even argued with people “who knew better” that it would pauperize the American middle class. I realized that free trade would only work without causing major social disruption if things between the US and Mexico were equal, which they weren’t/aren’t.

          (Never a good idea to ignore that two word phrase “Ceteris paribus.”)

          • AndrewInterrupted

            What is also contradictory to the ‘immigration reform’ urgency is that Mexico’s economy is growing 3 times faster than ours. And their unemployment rate is lower. So, why are they here? And why wouldn’t you adopt a Romney self deportation plan, if they were all headed to like minded culture, speaking the same language, and an economy that is 3 times hotter than ours?
            They are doing it for Democrat votes only.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          “Paleo-Con”. I like that. He’s no fan of either party either.

          Andrew Breitbart was a recovering liberal.

          I read his two books. Did you read either of them?

          Righteous Indignation & Hollywood Interrupted.

      • RisingReich

        Christ, John. No wonder we’re in such a mess.

      • It seemed like a good idea to me at the time because I would much rather have had Mexicans working in Mexico for US corporations than coming here. Sadly, I am not infallible.

        • JohnEngelman

          American companies that produce manufactured goods in low wage countries should pay the same tariffs as foreign companies in those countries.

    • John K

      Voting for Perot only meant that Bush would not be reelected; that was the good news. The bad news is that we got Clinton instead.

    • Epiminondas

      I voted for Buchanan. Don’t regret it, either.

  • If they do this, I am done with the GOP forever. I already don’t have any gun rights.

    • If they do this, what you and I do won’t matter, they’ll do themselves in forever.

      • RisingReich

        God willing. I’m SO sick of them.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        The Right will never win another major election after that. That’s why the Demo-rats are doing it. Obama, Holder, Johnson–they’re all intentionally violating immigration laws to get those votes. I can’t understand why the pundits aren’t dwelling on the voter fraud aspect of it. It’s gerrymandering on a mass scale.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          It was pretty clear back in 1965 that the Immigration and Naturalization Act was for importing instant Democrats.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It has been so obvious for so long and yet the Coulters and Buchanans of the Right don’t dig their teeth into it–and keep them dug in–the way Alinsky would have. If they had spent the last few decades enforcing the voter fraud aspect of what the Demo-rats have been doing we might be in a better place now.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Was it Jay Leno that made the crack about eleven million unregistered Democrats?

            He still on?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            This is his last week I think.
            That quote was ripped-off from an anonymous blogger.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            “That quote was ripped-off from an anonymous blogger.”

            DAMMIT! LOL…

          • refocus

            Coulter and Buchanan are both well paid shills.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            There is a big ego problem on the Right. I’m not so sure it’s a shill problem with those two. Everyone wants to be General.

      • refocus

        We will be done for that is certain, but the Republican operatives will get their $50 million Swiss bank accounts and live happily ever after.

    • sbuffalonative

      If they do this, the decline will accelerate exponentially. The questions are how bad will it get and how quickly.

    • Long Live Dixie

      I can’t believe there are dissidents who still haven’t given up on the Republicans.

      • Ella

        Some conservatives vote between two evils and know it. They may hate Gore worse than Bush as an example, but also cannot stand Bush oligarchy. Choices have been poor since 1970’s. There are very few true Repubs since most are really progressives in America since the 20’s.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          Wow, you’re old. But if free market Republicanism like in the 20s and Prohibition is your cure, I’m off the bus you’re riding on!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            No, she’s wise and you’ve got a big, dumb mouth.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          A vote between two evils is no vote at all.

          • There is always a reason to vote, even if it is on local issues. This is the way one’s streets are taken care of.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Oh, there’s always a reason to vote, only not always the one the Chose Ones and their accomplices imagine. I vote with my wallet and my feet too. But when it comes to national elections, there is NO reason whatsoever for whites to vote. Locally there are ways we can rock the boat, yes you are right about that. But to vote on the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. Both parties nationally betray us at every turn, I can no longer vote for either for that reason.

      • slash345

        I have just since 2012.

        That party is officially dead.

        I won’t be voting again until an opportunity to secede from the union presents itself.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          Really, it’s pretty hard to figure out who to vote for any longer. Anyone is a mistake. The Republic is over… let the purging begin. Where’s Napoleon?

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            We will sooner see a Robespierre than a Napoleon.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Robespierre was guillotined in turn, once the middle class got control again and ended his maniacal rule. Of Napoleon, I am attempting to point out what happens when large catastrophe’s create power vacuums.

            I think it’s interesting that so many here post as “We,” as if they are the elected representative of, what?

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            In this case, I mean white Americans will sooner see the like of Robespierre and his infamous Committee of Public Safety because of the dire straits most whites are in. That leads to radical politics and even more radical action, which can of course turn on those who carry them out. Robespierre’s story is a splendid example of how the road to Hell is paved with good intentions but awful outcomes.

          • Sick of it

            Considering the people involved in the French Revolution, I’m not sure any of them had good intentions.

          • refocus

            Robespierre was on the payroll.

          • I could do that, and I already know the finale.

          • Epiminondas

            A Trotsky.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Repugs winning in 2014 and 2016 might be the only opportunity for secession hopes. Maybe hang on a little longer.

          • slash345

            Fine…I’ll throw my last vote to the Republicans and if they don’t make any moves after that then I wash my hands of them.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The plausible scenarios are fewer and the odds always ever higher, but it looks like the white woman vote is turning against the Demo-rats. That’s a big deal. That block decided the last two major elections.

            If the white female vote comes thru in 2014 & 2016, we will have to strike when that iron is hot. That will truly be the last chance to eject the Marxist coup from North America.

          • Epiminondas

            It won’t be secession. The USA will simply break up.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      I am done with them, and if a white nationalist or even National Socialist movement emerges here, I am going with that. Those who cannot be named, and their shills in both parties have swung the pendulum so far to the left, it cannot go any further to the left. It’s about to swing back the other way and they will pay dearly for it. Are you listening GOP? You’re done for, only like most people aboard Titanic you don’t realize how done for until you’re about to drown in a sea of brown.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        Let’s hope that pendulum swings as far right as it can go, all the way to the ultranationalist far right. It’s reached the point where the only way to save the US is by staging another January 1933. Our situation is in fact far worse than the situation as it existed in the Weimar Germany of the late 1920s. At least Uncle Adolf didn’t have to fight off hordes of third world parasites, in addition to the tribe and Germany’s other traditional enemies.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          One thing is certain, when it does swing all the way to the right, left wing tyrants and their followers are going to die en masse. You can count on it. What happened in Germany and in Ukraine will pale in comparison to what is coming here.

      • I always said in federal prison that there is no situation so bad that it can not become worse.

        • Who Me?

          I thought it couldn’t get any worse than the McCain/Palin joke they gave us to vote for in ’08, till they dragged out Mittens & his crew in ’12. I only voted for then to try and beat the “magic knee-grow”. It didn’t work obviously.

          • refocus

            Why did you not vote for one of the third party candidates?

            answer: Everyone knows they can not win.

            Thanks for telling me.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Well, given who the federal prisons are full of, I agree with you there. The GOP are like a bunch of maniacs who just blew up all the sea chests aboard ship, and now they wonder why the vessel rolled hard to starboard then dragged them down with it 15,000 feet to the sea bed.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Cruz made a good suggestion. He said the GOP should bide their time thru the 2014 election. The theory is, if they postpone amnesty, they will pick up many seats like they did in 2010. They think the swing voters are burned out on Obama and there is good GOP momentum going into the 2014 elections.

  • Homo_Occidentalis

    Growing white populations = conservative electoral victories.

    Growing non-white populations = descent into authoritarian socialism

    The math is simple enough. All the corporate campaign donations in the world can’t reverse the demographic-driven death spiral of the Reptilian party.

    • Erasmus

      When the country is browned, I hope all those business people happy to sell us out for 40 pieces of silver and their families get “diversified” on some dark night by some Guatemalan or Mexican amnestied illegal.

      • Praetorian

        You know Haiti was once a paradise…but then..

        • Bossman

          Yes, it was once a paradise for the white colonists but they became too sure of themselves and refused to even extend basic rights to free Mulattoes. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Whitey’s foolish compassion for non-whites, a feeling that was never reciprocated by the unworthy objects of his affection, undermined his ability to successfully rule Haiti. The white man’s kindness is often his own undoing.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Was just reading about it tonight. The fact is that slavery of so many by so few is a bound to fail and go wrong. But that event did make slave owners all over the Western Hemisphere become harsher. If, if, if…. I wish history was different. But it’s not.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            The other thing is that in such a short time, there were so many mullatoes. Why were there any at all?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The straw was giving them any quarter.

            Jane Johnson’s “Wished we’d picked our own cotton”.

        • 48224

          Detroit was once pretty nice too.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Rhodesia was once one of the best places to live in the world.

          • Erasmus

            Once the breadbasket of Africa, now the basket case of Africa.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        Even the elites aren’t safe from diversity. Diversity destroys everything it touches. No one is safe from the ravages of diversity.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        They will get a chance to embrace diversity–on all fours.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      The kind of societies developed by whites and non-whites are a reflection of their underlying population genetic structure. Different population-specific biological constraints determine different patterns of cultural development. Because level of cultural development and the racial matrix in which it occurs are highly positively correlated, whites will develop one kind of civilization, whereas non-whites will develop another.

      It cannot be stressed often enough that there’s nothing worse than a steadily growing population of non-whites. This is because, without white people, there can be no western civilization. Non-whites undermine western civilization by inevitably recreating their own failed societies in our countries, largely because of their inability to properly assimilate principles of liberal democratic governance and free market economics. This is the result of genetic factors, such as IQ and the actual heritabilities of various personality traits.

  • Oil Can Harry

    So the GOP sucked up to the wealthy by allowing a Third World invasion of “cheap labor”?

    The results: not only did most immigrants vote for Obama so did most wealthy Americans!

    • Sick of it

      Obama’s campaign was supported by more billionaires than every other campaign combined. That tells a story right there.

    • refocus

      I knew a fellow who like Bush and NAFTA because it drove his competitors out of business. Ten years later he too was finished.

  • DLRisVH

    I can’t wait to see the look on the face of the democRAT candidate that loses the election to the first “LaRaza” candidate!

    • AndrewInterrupted

      You mean the Sanchez sisters?

    • RHG

      Yep, at some point the reconquista’s won’t need useful idiot white Democrats and they will be kicked to the curb….brutally and painfully, I hope.

  • Sue

    Numbersusadotcom If you don’t know about the organization, you need to. They need people, contributions, and writers. PLEASE check it out.

    • Marc Zuckurburg

      But you didn’t see the news today.

      My lackeys have just released a report exposing “numbers usa” as advocating extremist ideology, that is, any idea which hinders my wealth accumulation, which, as you know, was more than $3 billion on one day this week.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        I joined them over a year ago. Donated a couple times. They are a good outfit.

        Their robo-fax system is so effective that the politicians are already proposing legislation to block robo-faxes.

        Apparently their concern was—->the American people might actually be heard.

        NUMBERSUSA.COM is just good fiscal conservatives who know that all that has to happen is for the politicians to follow the Constitution and the existing laws.

        That is the extent of their extremism—->they’re Americans.

      • Puggg

        Traitor billionaire logic:

        Retired eye doctor in Michigan the most evil person in the world, he must be driving 100% of the opposition to erasing the borders.

        Twenty something creep who has an overglorified internet billboard and somehow road that to now $27 billion of a personal fortune, and who wants to erase the borders in his maniacal drive to help him make even more money: America’s lovable teddy bear.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          He’s no Puggg.

      • Sue

        I’ve found out through “educational” television everything I think is extreme. Might as well make use of it then.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Most of you will still vote for the GOP anyway, while it reaches out to minorities.
    I was dumb enough to vote for Bush, McCain, and Romney. I have, however, since learned my lesson. The last time I voted, I had a short list of sell out republicans, and voted for their democrat challengers.
    Next time, I’ll have a short list of republicans I will vote for, while the rest will be straight ticket democrat. I’m ready for the bottom to fall out. Country boy can survive.
    I laugh at the white male democrat who’s working the cash register at 25 years old despite having a Bachelor of Arts degree.

    • Erasmus

      Most of you will still vote for the GOP anyway, while it reaches out to minorities.

      Just two words: Like hell.

      • Pro_Whitey

        If Jeff Sessions gives it a go, I hope you fellows might be willing to give him a shot. His foreign policy might not be what folks around here like, but I think he gets the issue and is at least sounding implicitly pro-white. I might be getting old and useless, but I hold out hope for my kids.

        • NoMosqueHere

          President Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III has a nice ring to it. Sort of pre 60s America — pre 1860s that is.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          What is it about his foreign policy that would disagree with us?

          • WR_the_realist

            I think his foreign policy is pretty much conventional neoconery. Despicable, of course, but then the presidential candidates from both parties always have the same foreign policy, with Obama no exception.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Shall we say, hell bent on fighting other peoples’ battles?

        • lily-white

          I wish I could believe you but I don’t think Jeff is what our handelers have in mind… Its the Obama types that they want… I have lived a pretty long life myself and all I have come to see is repeated presidencies that put in place a scumbag that is worse than the last one…

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Indeed, I have live long enough to see each new clutch of politicians are bigger thieves, crooks, scumbags, corruptors and genocidists than the last.

    • NoMosqueHere

      You may reconsider if the Dems run another black radical in 16. They had great success with a crypto muslim song and dance man black. You know: once you have black, you never go back?! So, maybe they’ll run a real black muslim in 16 such as Rep. Keith Ellison. That prospect may actually send me back to the GOP.

    • Steven

      You laugh at people who struggle with honest jobs?

      • D.B. Cooper

        I laugh at those too stupid to realize they are in their predicament partially because of their political leanings. These white male democrats under 30 have been affirmative actioned out of the job market, yet blindly support the political party that hates them. These are the same type of punks who make death threats to an Amren convention.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          What is this punk’s story?

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Hmm…

        • AndrewInterrupted

          They’re just testosterone fueled monkeys trying to earn their diversity cookies.

    • RisingReich

      They are dead to me, and many on here, DB.

    • refocus

      I’m ready for the bottom to fall out. Country boy can survive.

      Just like the Russians survived from 1917 onwards….?

  • bigone4u

    Pat is a national treasure, one of the few willing to tell the truth and pay the consequences. When he dies, a giant voice of reason will have been silenced, so long live Pat Buchanan. In this article, he lays out the truth more starkly than I’ve seen before. Yes, the entire freaking country is beginning to look like California. Darkskins are everywhere and everywhere there is hostility to whites as well as massive incompetence. Say hello to the world’s newest banana republic, the former USA.

    • bigone4u

      Two quotes from the late anarchist Edward Abbey seem appropriate to add:

      Counterpart to the knee-jerk liberal is the new knee-pad conservative, always groveling before the rich and powerful.

      What’s the difference between a whore and a congressman? A congressman makes more money.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        His essay on immigration remains one of the best:

        “Immigration and Liberal Taboos” [Reprinted in 1988]

        In the American Southwest, where I happen to live, only sixty miles north of the Mexican border, the subject of illegal aliens is a touchy one. Even the terminology is dangerous: the old word wetback is now considered a racist insult by all good liberals; and the perfectly correct terms illegal alien and illegal immigrant can set off charges of xenophobia, elitism, fascism, and the ever-popular genocide against anyone careless enough to use them. The only acceptable euphemism, it now appears, is something called undocumented worker. Thus the pregnant Mexican woman who appears, in the final stages of labor, at the doors of the emergency ward of an El Paso or San Diego hospital, demanding care for herself and the child she’s about to deliver, becomes an “undocumented worker.” The child becomes an automatic American citizen by virtue of its place of birth, eligible at once for all of the usual public welfare benefits. And with the child comes not only the mother but the child’s family. And the mother’s family. And the father’s family. Can’t break up families can we? They come to stay and they stay to multiply.

        What of it? say the documented liberals; ours is a rich and generous nation, we have room for all, let them come. And let them stay, say the conservatives; a large, cheap, frightened, docile, surplus labor force is exactly what the economy needs. Put some fear into the unions: tighten discipline, spur productivity, whip up the competition for jobs. The conservatives love their cheap labor; the liberals love their cheap cause. (Neither group, you will notice, ever invites the immigrants to move into their homes. Not into their homes!) Both factions are supported by the cornucopia economists of the ever-expanding economy, who actually continue to believe that our basic resource is not land, air, water, but human bodies, more and more of them, the more the better in hive upon hive, world without end – ignoring the clear fact that those nations which most avidly practice this belief, such as Haiti, Puerto Rico, Mexico, to name only three, don’t seem to be doing well. They look more like explosive slow-motion disasters, in fact, volcanic anthills, than functioning human societies. But that which our academic economists will not see and will not acknowledge is painfully obvious to los latinos: they stream north in ever-growing numbers.

        Meanwhile, here at home in the land of endless plenty, we seem still unable to solve our traditional and nagging difficulties. After forty years of the most fantastic economic growth in the history of mankind, the United States remains burdened with mass unemployment, permanent poverty, an overloaded welfare system, violent crime, clogged courts, jam-packed prisons, commercial (“white-collar”) crime, rotting cities and a poisoned environment, eroding farmlands and the disappearing family farm all of the usual forms of racial ethnic and sexual conflict (which immigration further intensifies), plus the ongoing destruction of what remains of our forests, fields, mountains, lakes, rivers, and seashores, accompanied by the extermination of whole specie’s of plants and animals. To name but a few of our little nagging difficulties.

        This being so, it occurs to some of us that perhaps evercontinuing industrial and population growth is not the true road to human happiness, that simple gross quantitative increase of this kind creates only more pain, dislocation, confusion, and misery. In which case it might be wise for us as American citizens to consider calling a halt to the mass influx of even more millions of hungry, ignorant, unskilled, and culturally-morally-genetically impoverished people. At least until we have brought our own affairs into order. Especially when these uninvited millions bring with them an alien mode of life which – let us be honest about this – is not appealing to the majority of Americans. Why not? Because we prefer democratic government, for one thing; because we still hope for an open, spacious, uncrowded, and beautiful–yes, beautiful!–society, for another. The alternative, in the squalor, cruelty, and corruption of Latin America, is plain for all to see.

        Yes, I know, if the American Indians had enforced such a policy none of us pale-faced honkies would be here. But the Indians were foolish, and divided, and failed to keep our WASP ancestors out. They’ve regretted it ever since.

        To everything there is a season, to every wave a limit, to every range an optimum capacity. The United States has been fully settled, and more than full, for at least a century. We have nothing to gain, and everything to lose, by allowing the old boat to be swamped. How many of us, truthfully, would prefer to be submerged in the Caribbean-Latin version of civilization? (Howls of “Racism! Elitism! Xenophobia!” from the Marx brothers and the documented liberals.) Harsh words: but somebody has to say them. We cannot play “let’s pretend” much longer, not in the present world.

        Therefore-let us close our national borders to any further mass immigration, legal or illegal, from any source, as does every other nation on earth. The means are available, it’s a simple technical-military problem. Even our Pentagon should be able to handle it. We’ve got an army somewhere on this planet, let’s bring our soldiers home and station them where they can be of some actual and immediate benefit to the taxpayers who support them. That done, we can begin to concentrate attention on badly neglected internal affairs. Our internal affairs. Everyone would benefit, including the neighbors. Especially the neighbors. Ah yes. But what about those hungry hundreds of millions, those anxious billions, yearning toward the United States from every dark and desperate corner of the world? Shall we simply ignore them? Reject them? Is such a course possible?

        “Poverty,” said Samuel Johnson, “is the great enemy of human happiness. It certainly destroys liberty, makes some virtues impracticable, and all virtues extremely difficult.”

        You can say that again, Sam.

        Poverty, injustice, over breeding, overpopulation, suffering, oppression, military rule, squalor, torture, terror, massacre: these ancient evils feed and breed on one another in synergistic symbiosis. To break the cycles of pain at least two new forces are required: social equity – and birth control. Population control. Our Hispanic neighbors are groping toward this discovery. If we truly wish to help them we must stop meddling in their domestic troubles and permit them to carry out the social, political, and moral revolution which is both necessary and inevitable.

        Or if we must meddle, as we have always done, let us meddle for a change in a constructive way. Stop every campesino at our southern border, give him a handgun, a good rifle, and a case of ammunition, and send him home. He will know what to do with our gifts and good wishes. The people know who their enemies are.

      • WR_the_realist

        A whore is much more honest than a congressman, because she sells what actually belongs to her.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      A multicultural elite, in league with the transnational corporations, seized the reins of government and ran the world’s greatest superpower into the ground. Yet most whites stood by and did nothing while their country was being taken over by hostile third world colonizers. This just goes to show that they haven’t been hit where it really hurts. When living standards and wages fall to such an extent that white livelihoods are finally placed in danger, there will be major social upheaval and a reversal of the demographic transformation that undermined American social cohesion and economic prosperity.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        White livelihoods are in danger. It’s been creeping so slowly though, it’s hard to see and a critical mass are caught between comfortable and terrified of falling down and out.

      • refocus

        When living standards and wages fall to such an extent that white
        livelihoods are finally placed in danger, there will be major social
        upheaval and a reversal of the demographic transformation that
        undermined American social cohesion and economic prosperity.

        Maybe not.

        A certain amount of testosterone is required to stand up.

        And it takes a real man to recognize that he has believed an obvious lie, and now awake… must rectify it.

        The vast majority of the people I have known would rather die quietly in their sleep than look in the mirror and acknowledge they made a fundamental mistake of political judgement. Nothing is as painful as a new idea.

    • WR_the_realist

      I voted for Pat in the primary the last time he ran for the presidency. Of course he had very little chance of winning then, and would have no chance whatsoever now.

      • LACounty

        True. But it doesn’t hurt to dream of secession, with Buchannan or some other race-realist as President. It doesn’t hurt to dream of Whites seceding and defending their borders with the firearms they currently own. Let them try to take that dream from me.

        • SoulInvictus

          Two practical things I don’t understand why people don’t do.
          Support ultra liberal third parties to undermine/split the Dem vote.
          A concerted effort to move en masse to a swing state.

          If a sizable chunk of Alabama or Miss. for example, up and moved to Florida, the conservative vote in those two would still be locked up and FL would easily tip.
          Those two strategies would easily fix every natioanl election for the foreseeable future.
          I hope the wheels fall off this amnesty thing somehow… they can’t get it together for an unemployment bill, but an issue as divisive as immigration and amnesty is sailing through the ranks, wtf…

          • Sick of it

            Liberals from California have been flooding large swathes of the country for decades now, tipping elections the wrong way. Changing everything the wrong way.

          • SoulInvictus

            I had a lefty friend that moved from CA to Alabama for his job.
            It took… maybe 6 months of living in our diverse community before his opinions changed drastically.
            He saw the attitudes and the blight firsthand, and it wasn’t a hard sell to convince him to buy is first self defense firearm soon after.
            But mostly, you’re absolutely correct. It could work the other way too though. I think most conservatives are just more tied to their locale.

          • refocus

            Because 85% of the whites will not get up off the couch and vote.

            A woman close to me resents it when I try to discuss the politics of voting. She tells me she is mature and can make up her own mind.

            If I produce a sample ballot showing 40 contested positions and ask her about any of them she goes ballistic and tells me to leave her alone.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Judging by the large increase in women blogging on conservative websites lately, I think the (white) woman vote is heading hard right. That block is the national swing vote.

            If the Repugs hold back amnesty until November there will be a bigger positive change than happened with the Tea Party in 2010.

  • So CAL Snowman

    The thing about articles like these (and I respect Pat Buchanan) is that they assume the USA will continue functioning in one way or another for the foreseeable future. Now I’m a believer in the slow burn theory but eventually this whole thing is going to collapse, it’s a mathematical certainty given inflation and quantitative easing. Eventually enough states and municipalities across the FUSA will go belly up and there will not be enough funny money in all the world to keep them afloat. The only solution will be to try and appropriate the remaining wealth of the middle and upper class Whites. Such action will cause a revolution as most Whites in America care only for their bank account’s bottom line.

    • LACounty

      Don’t flash your cash to Uncle Sambo.

      • So CAL Snowman

        If only their was a way to invest in being gay or hispanic. I would be a billionaire and I would buy a huge island for all of us.

    • RisingReich

      He’s on record for recognizing multi-cultural society’s don’t last.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        Well, no society lasts. The crucial difference, I think, is that ethnically and racially homogeneous societies may end up being conflict-ridden and dysfunctional, but are generally harmonious. In contrast, all ethnically and racially heterogeneous (or “multicultural”) societies are necessarily conflict-ridden and dysfunctional.

      • So CAL Snowman

        Oh I know, my point was that it doesn’t matter how or why the GOP lost middle America because the USA is toast regardless of what the GOP does.

        • Pelagian

          Yeah, but there was a fork in the road 20 years ago after the Cold War and the GOP took the wrong road.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      The fact that the American economy is predicated on the logic of exponential growth makes it a mathematical certainty that the US will experience civilizational collapse in the near future. As we all know, and what pro-growth nuts fail to understand, exponential growth is inherently unsustainable in a finite world. Because technological progress is thermodynamically constrained, Ponzi demography is ultimately a road to nowhere.

      We are headed towards a trap from which we will not be able to extricate ourselves, not without the greatest difficulty. Our elites have betrayed us. They are both evil and stupid, but probably more evil than stupid.

      • The only way we’re really going to have any real big growth in the near future if we have some really big technological breakthroughs. But as things are, the only way to “grow” the economy is to feed more producers and more consumers in the current paradigm, and that’s code for amnesty and open borders. That grows the economy but shrinks GDP per capita.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          “….big technological breakthroughs” funded by American tax dollars, the patents of which will be purchased by Mother China for pennies on the dollar.

        • As things currently are going, there are increasingly absolute barriers to really genuine technological breakthroughs. Too much barrier to those who think deeply and who have integrity and spirit.
          At least no such breakthroughs in the West. And the rest of the world seems to stumbling through the thought muck it is always slogging through.
          Welcome to the end of a world era.

  • ncpride

    I remember well when they started shutting down the factories in the small town I grew up. Textile plants, furniture factories, shoe factories and many more closed up shop and left our town devastated, and it has never really recovered. Generations of families worked in these factories without complaint, and they were tossed aside without a thought.

    • Ella

      People like me proudly bought these products that could last 5-20 years, especially textiles. USA clothing costs slightly more but paid off immediately. 90% of female clothing is made overseas and choices are very minute. I detest being forced to purchase so many products overseas and at times, refuse to buy.

      • Despite the gloom and doom outlook of some, there are choices that exist. Many don’t notice the current trend of Made in the USA that is making a resurgence, because the mega corporations are the ones with the clout and money to spend in the advertising world. But you are correct about female clothing that isn’t made overseas being hard to find. And when you do find it, it can be considerably more expensive. But it’s there.

        • Ella

          It’s mostly teen clothing or high end like $50-100 per shirt and $150 plus per dress. I buy on sale or few items, but US clothing just comes in very limited styles due to less production.

      • ncpride

        I remember looking at the tags on my clothes a couple of months back…..most were made in China, but I actually found a shirt that was made in Pakistan. Sheesh…

        • Depending on what style of clothing you wear, there might a way to slowly get rid of the slave labor attire and replace it with American Made stuff. You’ll have a greater selection with some little everyday items. For instance, there should be no excuse for any man or woman that cares about U.S. manufacturing to not have made in the USA socks. There are about half a dozen manufacturers I can name off the top of my head, and they are much better quality than the slave labor stuff. I don’t think I’ve bought anything but U.S. socks in over 10 years.

          Some of the major manufacturers have noticed the trend and started to make sure consumers notice the Made in USA print on the packaging. The manufacturers of American jeans/pants and shirts are slowly growing because of the demand. New Balance is the only manufacturer left that produces a few lines of American athletic shoes. They are trying to compete in a market where their dedication to protecting U.S. manufacturing puts them at a disadvantage with the other companies who only care about the bottom line. Because of that, when I need running shoes, I only buy their U.S. made lines.

          • Does “Made-In -USA” clothing really matter if illegal aliens are being paid to do the work?

          • The key word being if. The attitude that it might not matter if something were true can be applied to just about every facet of life. If clothing does not have a Made in the USA tag, then it has about a zero percent chance of regular, hard-working White Americans being anything other than end consumers. No ifs need to be applied.

        • Sick of it

          Quite a few things are made in Latin America or the Philippines as well.

        • And why are textiles coming from Pockeystahn?

          Because Bush 43 had the bright idea that Pockeystahnis were going into the terrorism business because they were poor, (Osama bin Laden was poor?), so it was just a good excuse to ship what was left of the American textile industry to Pockeystahn.

          Though that did not prevent Pockeystahn’s deep state from hiding and stuffing away OBL for almost a decade.

          • ncpride

            I was wondering how in the world I came to have a shirt made in Pakistan. I’m not surprised it’s because of yet another betrayal of our government.

      • WR_the_realist

        I buy American when I can. I buy Diamond Gusset jeans because they are made in the USA and they actually make my size. I found the one company in the U.S. that still makes stainless steel flatware and bought from them. I have several pieces of furniture custom made by U.S. craftsmen. This is expensive — its much cheaper to buy the Chinese made junk from the discount stores — but it the furniture is of good quality and should last me the rest of my life. Also, the craftsmen almost always belong to the most despised group in America — working class white men.

        • Chasmania

          I find it ironic that people who talk about the flood of low cost foreign labor actually think that the ‘Made in USA’ label is anything but a marketing ploy, and that it was actually an American who made it.
          Odds are better than even that the item made here was made by Paki, Chinese, etc… labor.
          Myself, I’m a free market type. Bastiat, Von Mises, et al…

          • Homo_Occidentalis

            Exactly. American Apparel is one of the largest clothing brands dedicated to manufacturing its wares in the U.S.A. Their manufacturing is all done in California, and whatever workers they hire that aren’t illegal aliens are almost certainly not white.

          • WR_the_realist

            Actually, some stuff really is made in America. But your cynicism is certainly useful to those who want to export every last U.S. job.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Well ‘free market’ type is great bumper sticker, but it basically means there are no rules. A game that has no rules is exciting to watch at first, but it then has diminishing returns. It’s a mindset that smacks of “It will never happen to me”. That’s what the Vichy French were saying. And not long after that they were saying: “It wasn’t me! It wasn’t me!”

            People who say the are all for ‘free trade’ and ‘free markets’ are all jacked-up on that temporary 401K high that slave labor brings, but then there is that withdrawal. And withdrawals are sometimes fatal.

            Turning America into a bedroom country was a really bad idea. It will have fatal consequences.

          • A free market needs rules, just like a football game needs field markers and refs.

            A free market without rules is anarchy.

          • Chasmania

            To a point I agree. Industries that have a national security implication would need some degree of protecting, but ye gods, do we need so much protecting from the world ? I believe the American worker – steeped in fast food, cable TV and its other comforts – is still capable of producing better quality AND quantities than any pool of foreign labor.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The national security/sovereignty ramifications are huge. China has always been our enemy. They raped the U.S. of commercial and military IP.

            A few decades ago they were living in the Stone Age. Now they have operational copies of the F-35. I have a folder full of stories of how China has been robbing us blind.

            What is amazing about China is that they’ve never been an American ally, and they even tend to admit it. They stab you in the front. They are laughing at us.

            “Those idiots gave away their country”.

          • Chasmania

            But can’t we agree that the loss of large portions of our industry WASN’T the fault of free market principals, but instead was victimized by a heavy regulatory protectionist/Crony capitalist system ?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I think you describing “heavy regulatory protectionist” as a negative is what I described as a positive–a tariff system that rewarded business ethics, not sleaze.

            So, I would say we still fundamentally disagree. The tariff system in America isn’t a theory–it happened–and it worked. I lived it.

            The standard of living was never higher. Turning the Queen Mary a 180 degrees is another story.

          • Chasmania

            “Worked” would depend on what you want as an outcome.
            Anti-trust cases from the 19th century on were primarily attacks against successful companies by political operatives of less successful companies. Have you read “Antitrust and Monopoly: Anatomy of a Policy Failure ” and “The Abolition of Antitrust ” ?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            No.

            I was speaking big picture, macroeconomic ebb&flow stuff. Anti-trust cycles beat the alternative, which is revolution. Several people liken the blind arrogance of the 1 percent-ers we now see in America as being more analogist to conditions leading up to the French Revolution. Baby Zuckerbird being one blaring example.

            I remember how that similarity to the days before the French Revolution struck me also–during a part of the Bush43 administration. Bush had been presented with bleak numbers on personal savings and the health of people’s retirement funds. People were saving less and less as inflation and off-shoring cut into their wages and disposable income more and more.

            Bush43’s response to his aids telling him the news was chilling. He upped the allocation amount for people’s 401K’s. He increased the allowable max amount from 20% to 25%–or something along those lines. I imagined the close door meeting in my head.

            Bush Aid: “Mr. President, the people have less and less retirement savings from hidden inflation and off-shoring wage pressures. What should we do?”

            Bush43: “Let them save more”.

          • Sick of it

            Just like with the French Revolution, our current deplorable conditions were created intentionally.

          • Chasmania

            Not sure how you can attack free trade when you seem to be unhappy about the crony capitalism we’ve been experiencing for, well, since the civil war era essentially.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Because ‘Free trade” is a bumper sticker. It’s a lie. Canada is for free trade, except they subsidize their lumber industry, which wiped out the lumber mill industry in New England.

            Any woodcutter you meet will tell you that he cuts the trees down in MA or CT or ME and loads them on a truck for Canada. He gets 20 cents a board foot in the U.S., but Canada subsidizes that industry, so he gets 40 cents a board foot there. Up to Canada it goes.

            That is an example of how ‘free trade’ translates in the real world. It doesn’t exist. If the U.S. attached a 20 cent a board foot tariff on Canadian lumber to counter that, thousands of lumber jobs would still exist in New England.

            I know of a pallet manufacturer in New England who had to shutter their operation because of that wonderful ‘free trade’. They provided high school kids with jobs, handicapped people, and there were some semi-skilled and skilled jobs there, too. All gone.

            Free trade is a lie in so many ways.

          • Chasmania

            That’s my point, what people today think is Free Trade is not , in any way, shape or form. They toss around the term to sugar coat what it really is. Protectionist….Crony Capitalism…Whatever…
            It’s the same type of government double speak when they talk about budget cuts. They fail to mention the use of budget base lining, so when they say cut, they really mean INCREASE, just not as much as they hoped.
            If free trade was ever really used, there would be an explosion of productivity. But, alas, we’ll never see it.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I worked for a federal contractor for many years. I know exactly what you’re talking about. They are lumbering cesspools of dysfunction and inefficiency. There is no way they’ve ever turned a legitimate profit.

            So, they keep separate sets of books. They said it would cost $100 million, but it really cost $200 million. So, ever so quietly, they receive a ‘cash infusion’ on the side.

            Federal contractors perfected Chicago gangster politics. The Post Office is run the same way. And all for their wonderful brain dead diversity darlings.

          • Chasmania

            Worked for a few myself. Northrop, Dynaelectron ( Which became the beast DynCorp ), UNC, UNC/Lear Siegler, Lockheed…
            I always liked the UNC/Lear one. When someone asked who we worked for, we always answered ” It’s Unclear “.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Sounds like west coast?

          • Chasmania

            SAFB, ENJJPT program, up thru ’95.

          • It only looks like an F-35.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The ‘Made in USA’ issue is a whole other scandal. I have plenty of stories to tell there, too.

          • Chasmania

            If I’m not mistaken it was used by the unions at one time to drum up support for their members jobs.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, but that label is also a lie. I know of a large manufacturer–many actually, but this one stuck the ‘Made in USA’ sticker all over their products. They sold very expensive sub-systems, 95% of which was manufactured overseas. Some of the systems they sold were built all the way up where only a few panels were left to be attached–and the Made in USA’ label still went on. The sleaze factor in business is just stunning.

          • Chasmania

            And if I’m not mistaken, large protions of any product can be made overseas and assembled here and still get the same tag, legitimately.

        • Ella

          Thanks for the jean brand. If you want to support White males for furniture and families, buying Amish helps their growing communities in the Midwest too. They are excellent craftsmen, with choice woods, and have reasonable prices. I will not buy anything but American furniture -what is left of our trade. I don’t buy often. I also buy antiques for better deals too that help the local stores.

          • WR_the_realist

            The couch and chair in my living room were made by Amish. Everybody who sees them is impressed.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            But, if you send those jobs to a slave nation like China, Chasmania will get a better return on his 401K? And we’ll borrow more money from Mother China, too. What could go wrong?

        • Sick of it

          Many craftsmen are actually middle class/upper middle class, as they make quite a bit more money than, say, a factory worker. The more skill their trade requires, the more money they bring in. I would not be surprised to learn that 99-100% of skilled tradesmen are white men.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I know a union electrician who says they get fined if they don’t have their diversity pie chart in order. 5% of these 10% of those. He says, in many cases, it’s more cost effective to take the fine than it is to go hunting for diversity darlings all over the place. They can’t be bothered. There in business.

    • JohnEngelman

      In one of his books Pat Buchanan said, “Conservatives should ask themselves what they are trying to conserve.”

      Republicans like to talk about work, family, neighborhood. Nevertheless, when vulture capitalists close factories people are thrown out of work, families become destitute, and neighborhoods are destroyed.

      • WR_the_realist

        Pat Buchanan — the last conservative in America who’s actually conservative. I was shocked when MSNBC hired Pat Buchanan as a commentator. I was utterly unsurprised when they fired him for saying in “Suicide of a Superpower” the very same things he’s said in his previous books.

        • JohnEngelman

          Words have the meanings people attribute to them. I see Pat Buchanan as a social reactionary who is moderately liberal on economic issues. Unlike corporate Republicans he cares about the victims of what many corporate Republicans enjoy calling “creative destruction.”

          The way creative destruction works is that old companies go out of business to be replaced by new and more productive companies. That is find for the employer – investor class. For employees it is frequently catastrophic. When factories close factory workers do not get better paying jobs with more modern factories. They get fired. The fortunate factory workers get service industry jobs requiring more skills and paying much less. The unfortunate workers join the long term unemployed.

          This is true for university trained high tech workers too. The computer field has become very specialized and very competitive. Five years experience in anything is likely to be obsolete. It is more likely to be worthless to other employers in the area where one lives. Employers seldom train anyone. They seldom hire middle aged tech workers with years, perhaps decades, of experience who have retrained themselves at their own expense.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Again, a long time poster describing the race-to-the-bottom. When will we define the world as a race-to-the-bottom and take necessary measures?

          • JohnEngelman

            In the world of casino capitalism hard work means less than where the ball lands when the wheel stops turning.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            So let’s rig the ball and the wheel.

            Let’s p!ss on their collective legs and tell them it’s raining.

          • Sick of it

            And hard work/education mean less than what connections you have.

          • SoulInvictus

            Definitely, and could recount stories from personal experience on that one.
            It’s one reason I urge the wealthier/older folks on here to mentor some like minded younger guy. Help raise up some of your own, try and choose someone either with or open to having a large family.
            Tell them they get a bonus for every new baby ;).

          • Sick of it

            That’s a great idea, as modern folks tend toward selfishness to a degree that precludes such a beneficent gesture. We cannot survive by being completely mercenary.

          • SoulInvictus

            Well, one reason we’re struggling so much is that the older generation just won’t retire (damn boomers). How many people here work for a company where all the VP slots are people 60+? They’ve been making 6 figures for years and won’t move out of the way for someone in their 30’s trying to make/raise a family. Even in the Civil Service folks I’ve seen the top guys are older seniors… half ass working just to fuel their second/third home and boat.
            Couple that with the older folks living longer and all the wealth concentrates away from the people that need it most…
            If they’d at least mentor someone(s), they could make use of that position or business ownership for the betterment of their own.

          • Sick of it

            I’ve been saying the same thing for years re: older folks not retiring. Many of these people fell into high level positions with only a high school diploma…but can’t understand/don’t care when we younger folks cannot take care of ourselves after getting a graduate degree.

      • Luca

        Factories close when they cannot make money or can make more money by changing their operations. When a government tells a factory they must pay a certain wage, hire a certain class of people, then saddles them with lawsuits, regulations and taxes, they become less profitable or go bankrupt. Add union labor, higher cost of logistics and competition from imported goods and the death spiral happens quicker.

        Without vulture lawyers, vulture politicians and vulture unions a factory can be more productive and remain where they are. Or else they move.

        • JohnEngelman

          This is not your father’s American free enterprise system any more. This is casino capitalism. The odds favor the house.

          Hard work matters less than where the ball lands when the wheel stops turning. Loyalty to a company matters nothing at all.

          • Luca

            Your post comes no where near the definition of a response. I would call it more of a baseless, senseless, statement.

            You are right about one thing, it is no longer a free enterprise system and I can define why that is in two words: Government Intervention.

          • JohnEngelman

            When the government intervened more, and when taxes on the rich were higher the U.S. economy worked for most Americans.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            That is the fine line the Independent voter walks. They see it not as a one or the other proposition.

          • Max

            In that time there was no “Civil Rights Act”, no open border, the country was 89% white and the illgitimacy rate was 1/4 the present rate. We did not have either the same weight of entitlements to fecund loafers nor the exponential increase in the money supply by which means the government created and protected banks have been taxing the middle class at a real *additional* rate of 5-15 % per year. Many things have changed in 50 years but government intervention overall, in ways which cost the middle class real money, is in no way less than it was then.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            True. It’s misdirected government intervention.
            Or maybe better stated, misdirected anger.

          • JohnEngelman

            Most Americans still benefited from high taxes on the rich, strong labor unions, a high minimum wage, and more regulations.

  • Luca

    This article is true, but not the full picture. Pat forgot to mention technology and “globalism.” Technology made it cheaper to hire people in India to answer phones than to have a US based call center. All forms of communication and computer technology was doubling every 18 months and dropping in price just as quick.

    The big push in global markets happened in the late 80’s and early 90’s. European countries were doing it with their overseas holdings. BMW was making cars in Turkey and South Africa, cutting labor costs and dropping prices. VW must be in at least 15 different countries.

    How were American factories to compete? One by one they went the way of the rest of the First-World and outsourced their labor.

    For factories to return to the US, there will have to be a wage reality. As long as people can make about $10 an hour on unemployment benefits they are not going to work for $14 an hour using their labor.

    Bottom line, this is not completely the fault of Republicans although they certainly carry enough of the blame.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      When American manufacturing was at its finest–in the 1950s and 1960s, heavy tariffs were levied on countries who undercut with products made with slave labor, no environmental laws, manipulated currency, etc.

      Keeping the tariffs in place would have kept them rising to our level, not us racing-to-the-bottom to theirs. The less sleaze they engaged in, the less their tariffs would be. That system worked.

    • Sick of it

      A lot of folks would stand in line for days today in order to obtain a $14/hr job. They’re getting more rare every year.

      • Luca

        You are speaking of honorable, decent, responsible people. The entitlement crowd, of which there are many, will not show up.

        • Sick of it

          True, but we know the traditional demographics of such groups (though others may deny it based upon their warped sense of reality).

    • Chasmania

      This problem we face has its roots in the early 19th century, care of Hamilton.

      • Sick of it

        Hamilton didn’t belong to internationalist circles, unlike the modern banker.

    • Tarczan

      The unions also share some of the blame. The costs and labor practices they forced upon industries made them uncompetitive. Unions complain about outsourcing, but what were companies to do?

  • Steven

    When the aristocratic landowners brought in slaves by the boatloads, the elite ruling class thought nothing of the associated social costs – many of whom were slave owners themselves. Whites were displaced and became the minority in many southern states and were largely ignored by their leadership. Fast forward to the current trend in labor and we find the same thinking by those in charge: lower labor rates without an ounce of regard to the citizenry. The problem that many here have with this observation is that they were under the misguided belief that this country was for Whites only and it becomes difficult to rationalize the perceived loss of control of their country. If we start thinking in terms that this country was for rich Whites only, then things become clearer. And no, the current and past labor situation is not a Jewish conspiracy to commit genocide against the Whites – this is just capitalism at its finest.

    • M.

      Actually, the United States was a white country. White people were the founding stock, and the setters of every major institution of the country. Up until the 1960’s, immigration policies were white-oriented, and laws were enacted to keep the white gene pool as untainted as possible.
      It was very well a white country.

      • Chasmania

        Those were aka ” The Good Old Days “.
        Amazing how introducing one pesky species into an environment can create such havoc, but history is replete with examples.

    • Flanders21

      Just capitalism at its finest? Then please explain how every former
      White homogeneous country in the world has the same policies to
      diversify the White population with non-White third worlders. You think
      it mere coincidence?

      Obviously,Pat Buchanan didn’t tell the whole story in this article.

      Capitalism at its finest? Is that why General Mills is spending millions of dollars
      to show an ad during the superbowl that does nothing to actually convince people
      that the product is delicious and desired by children but rather promotes miscegenation?

    • M.

      Capitalism itself is a good economic system, in my opinion. Provided it
      should be kept from degenerating into corporatism, which is what
      happened in the US.

      But it’s not just about capitalism running amok
      and corrupt politicians, because open immigration policies are always
      pushed from the left. Scandinavian countries have been keeping
      capitalism very well in check for decades, but the socialist leftists in power have still managed to flood their lands with tens of thousands of racial aliens.

      • WR_the_realist

        International capital can always rely upon the left to back its cheap labor immigration policies. So when I hear progressives whine about increasing economic equality I say, “Ha ha ha!”

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Corporations became the government. That’s when things headed south.

  • Mike Smith

    Bush says he doesn’t remember where he was when Kennedy was shot. Maybe he doesn’t remember where he was when he signed the Immigration Act of 1990.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I know the Immigration Act of 1980 that Carter signed caused hell on earth. What damage did the Immigration Act of 1990 cause?

  • RisingReich

    More likely just greedy, and evil.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Let’s not forget ‘useful idiots’.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        And what happens to them when they are no longer useful, but become a liability.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Hmmm…

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Those are the Balkan area Khazars at work there. Fanatical wolves.

            Don’t shop for DNA past Poland, if you know what’s best for you.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Ustase sawing the head off a Serb. I have no desire to put down fellow Whites but think it is important to not go so “rah rah team” as to ignore the fact that some Whites have indeed gone places which should be avoided.

            Those guys preferred Muzzies over Serb Orthodox. Freaked out the Italians and even the Nazis a bit.

            When I posted it below, however, it was a dark desire regarding that silly Beiber-boy race traitor pictured above it.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I inquired about that Goober’s picture, but it was moderated out. Maybe you can sneak up on the answer a little better and not inflame El Moderator?

          • The one on the top is Bolsheviks murdering a Pole.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            That is indeed what the picture is all about. They tied pregnant Russian and Ukrainian women to trees, bayonetted them and did much worse things to them before they died. Before that they often raped them. Now you can understand why I harbor utterly cold hatred towards those who cannot be named, and why Ukrainians and Russians would if they could expel them all from their countries.

          • The last division-scale battles between Soviet forces and free Ukrainians were in about 1955.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Had they done that, Stalin, Kaganovich, Beria, Yagoda, Sverdlov and all the other leading Bolsheviks would have been hung in Red Square by the summer of 1942. And yes, the world would have been a better place. Israel would not have been formed, the Cold War would not have happened, at least not with Russia and Eastern Europe, and the Muslim menace likely would have been held at bay.

  • dave

    I will vote Republican when they cater too the white race. If the Republicans can pander too blacks,hispanics and others,they can surely pander too the whites who keep them from going into extinction. If the Republicans want my vote,they must stick up for white ideology,culture and advancement.

    • LACounty

      In my opinion there is no way in hell we will have a shortage of those that will want to lead and represent White Americans. Can you imagine what White American conservatives would be able to do on their own? If what it takes is for things to get worse, so be it. All those arms and ammo weren’t purchased solely for hunting. We don’t need no stinkin’ Republicans.

  • antiquesunlight

    I feel like the end is inevitable at this point. We will all live in a multicultural ghetto.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      More like a multicultural third world hellhole.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    With one critical difference. He was the only anti-NAFTA candidate.

  • RHG

    I think big business can say goodbye to their “cheap labor” dream with an amnesty, because big labor is frothing at the mouth at the prospect of 12 mil plus street agitators demanding unions and union wages. I think big business will come to regret their support for this amnesty. Then of course the inevitable one party, anti-capitalist, leftwing dictatorship, masquerading as a “democracy”, will follow with the Democrats assuming permanent majority rule thanks to all their new voters and this country will then eventually start to resemble Venezuela, Cuba or possibly Zimbabwe or Detroit. Then when Democrats can’t fulfill all their promises and there aren’t any more pockets to pick and police and the military are no longer paid, anarchy, ethnic violence will begin and the US empire will then join the likes of the Egyptians, Romans and the Greeks in the trash heap of history. Good riddance, it will be deserved. Maybe from the ashes, some different thinking will have evolved when it comes to “multiculturalism”.

    • WR_the_realist

      Here’s what big business will do when those 15 million illegal aliens have citizenship and start protesting and joining unions: Bring in 15 million more illegal alien scabs to bust the unions. They will have the full backing of the progressives.

      • RHG

        no doubt “progressives” will support anything that brings in more non whites even if it means we are all living in 3rd world shanty-towns/ghettos. This people believe in cutting their noses off to spite their faces.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          And maybe we should stop calling them progressives.
          Let’s have a new contest. Rename the progressives.

          • RHG

            That is why I put the word in quotes because they are anything but “progressive” or for progress. Plus it’s usually just a euphemism for “socialist” or “communist” and these so-called “progressives” have no problem pushing these proven, failed and corrupt ideologies over and over again. Whoever coined the term “useful idiots” in describing these people is pretty on target.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It was Lenin who coined “useful idiots”, I believe. I’m surprised
            The Right has allowed the word “Progressive” to propagate. Even the word “Liberal”. It suggests tolerance. But, these Marxists and Fascists are the furthest thing from Liberal and Progressive.

            The Left is very good at shutting down words that are
            harmful towards them.

            The Right just doesn’t get it. They haven’t overlaid that Sun Tzu template in order to clearly view their enemy.

          • WR_the_realist

            “Progressive” is indeed the American word for “socialist” “Socialism” is in such disrepute in America that the socialists had to give themselves another name, so they picked “progressive”. There is no difference whatsoever between the political programs of American progressives and European socialists.

            Some forms of socialism might even sort of work in an ethnically uniform society but throw in diversity and socialism necessarily becomes totalitarianism.

  • Sick of it

    Ahh, but they would have to be members of the same tribe, which they are not.

  • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

    The Republican party has long been the front for corporate control. They just used to play up patriotism and religion more to bring along all those mid-western simpletons.

  • Guest

    Pat nails it. And this is what displacement looks like. From today’s St. Louis Post-Dispatch. College-bound, anyone? ONE token white *at most* … female of course. Non-blonde. She could even be part Hispanic. White males? Fuggedaboutit.

  • Pelagian

    Pat nails it. And, oh, by the way, *this* is what displacement looks like. From today’s St. Louis Post-Dispatch. College-bound, anyone? ONE token white *at most* … female of course. Non-blonde. She could even be part Hispanic. White males? Fuggedaboutit.

    • And the weird thing is, we see two Asians here, and St. Louis doesn’t have that many Asians. Two blacks, both mulattoes.

    • Chasmania

      No white guys because they’re too busy actually getting the work done while the diversity crew gets its picture taken between classes and protests.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        You’re bucking for some Diversity Sensitivity Training, pal!….<;-)

        It has such a nicer ring than Re-education Camp.

    • DLRisVH

      Our community college sent out one similar to this, except it had the pretty white girl shoulder to shoulder with black male and behind them were hispanics and asians, with no White male to be found until you opened the brochure only to find most of the administration is White.

    • newscomments70

      We have something similar at our local college. Near the entrance parking garage, you can see a poster, “our University, a smoke free campus!” A blond white girl is standing with a group of black guys, arm in arm. Blacks are only a single digit percentage of the students, but they are the majority in every propaganda poster. Somehow black male/white female fornication is used to stop smoking.

      • Pelagian

        But a group of street thugs in a movie is always 70% white.

        • Max

          The street thugs are all white because the black men are too busy answering their patient’s medical questions, designing supercomputers and eating Cheerios with their mixed race children.

          • Pelagian

            Yeah… there like there is even a shortage of black models/actors ,since they are used so disproportionately often. “Jackson! Get on over to lot 21”. “Damn, a physicist again!? Sheeeeit!”

  • Pelagian

    I don’t follow politics as closely as most of the people on this board, but do I intuit correctly, that with the implosion of Christie, Paul, Rubio etc., the Republicans have no electable presidential candidate in 2016? And that the party could be dead in four years?? That is the best thing that could happen right now, because it would at least shake things up. What would Democrats do they didn’t have Republicans to kick around and they were a mono party? Could get interesting… but nothing’s going to return us to normalcy. Except … well … you know my opinion on that. No need risking any upvotes. 🙂

    • Max

      It is hopeful thinking (okay, fantastical thinking) but it may be that if enough of their favored insider boys become radioactive that some as yet minor, but more honestly conservative player may come to the fore and become a candidate.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      The weakness could make room for another run with a 3rd Party candidate of the Perot variety.

  • MBlanc46

    The Repubs have been the party of corporate capitalism since their emergence in the 1850s. They inherited the mantle from the Whigs. I would have thought that Pat Buchanan would have known this.

    • Pelagian

      good point. And yea he knows it. But let’s face it, Republicans, circa 1992, were the only party with any hankering whatsoever to preserve Western tradition and culture. Before the 1960s, BOTH parties were interested in preserving Western culture, it was just a given.I know it’s an oversimplification, but Social Conservative mixed with “Liberal” Economics would’ve worked with the electorate c. 1992. But the combination was never tried.

      • Pelagian

        I still can’t believe George Corley Wallace won 5 states outright in the deep South in the 1968 presidential election. Including Louisiana, that contains “Chocolate City”. That will probably be the last time in history that the presidential election map gets painted anything other than blue or red. I was too young to remember it, but it’s got to be the greatest thing that happened in this country in the last 50 years. Even if it was just a short blip. Looking like one last dying gasp of normalcy before the USA headed into the abyss.

        • He would have won North and South Carolina, too.

          Why didn’t he?

          Strom Thurmond, who by 1968, four years after changing parties, became an establishment Republican shill. He ran around the Carolins conning people into thinking that Nixon was almost as good as Wallace but actually had a chance to win.

          Add NC and SC to the states Wallace would have won and take them out of Nixon’s column, and Wallace would has achieved his goal of preventing either Nixon or Humphrey from getting to 270, thereby sending the election to the House and giving him a lot of leverage.

          Twenty years prior, that was precisely the political goal of…

          …Strom Thurmond.

  • Evette Coutier

    In America progresses are for liberal change not progress. The GOP is not clearly for much of anything. Democrats are against traditional American values and white males. The libertarians are off on fantasy island. It’s going to get very ugly before it turns around. Be sure to be prepared to influence dispossessed whites. In times of desperation people find usually one thing to latch onto, an anchor to get them through difficult times. We need, much like Golden Dawn in many respects, to be that guiding light. Heaven help us if it is our cultural opposition.

    • Sick of it

      The opposition has, over several generations, infiltrated every movement/group/ideology/religion precisely so they can manipulate people on such a massive scale. Bon brought up the truth behind one of the leaders of a Neo-Nazi group in this country and his kind would sooner wipe out white people than ensure they have a bright future. People will listen to the controlled opposition because the average IQ is simply too low, because they have been brainwashed to listen to mindless drivel rather than think for themselves, because their voices will be the loudest/best represented, and because most people are simply too ignorant of what’s going on to realize they are being conned.

      • Evette Coutier

        All true. Maybe we need to learn a lesson from the opposition and us their tactics. Fight fire with fire.

        • Sick of it

          The opposition uses masses of people. We need to learn from the Founders.

          • Evette Coutier

            The founders had a different population of people, ethical unbrainwashed, people SEEKING liberty. We have a population of brainwashed people seeking mommy’s security blanket with no moral compass. We need to rethink our strategy and adapt it to our reality.

  • EuroHero

    This just keeps getting worst. Also I see some very startling historical parallels here. Didn’t the Roman Empire fall because of internal corruption? In their last days over 90% of their military was comprised of non-Romans. Their economy was collapsing, and they even regressed technologically. I don’t see how things can be reversed. I guess its time to pack up and head to the few European countries that have not lost their minds such as Poland.

    • Chasmania

      One problem with the escape to Europe plan. Once the US goes, Russia will have free reign to stomp a mudhole on the EU, and I don’t see Putin or any other russki leader not enjoying the sight of T90s racing toward the channel.

      • Though now, some would consider that being thrown into the briar patch.

      • WR_the_realist

        Frankly, I don’t think the Russkies have any intention of invading Western Europe. But that makes a great myth to get Americans to squander trillions of dollars keeping troops in Europe that should have been brought home soon after WW II ended.

        • Chasmania

          I remember reading , post Soviet breakup, about DoD and CIA interviews with high ranking Russian generals who spoke about operational details of the whens and hows of an actual invasion. All that was needed was a green light. The impression given that it wasn’t mere war gaming and scenario thinking but ‘real deal’ wishful thinking.
          The US was the ONLY thing stopping it from happening, as the combined military of Europe was viewed as nothing but a speed bump to their plans. Who’s to say that train of thought doesn’t get dusted off if they sense weakness ?

          • jackryanvb

            Oh dear, we have some Reagan era loon warning us about….

            The Russians.

            Yeah, Reagan wasted the 1980s fighting…

            The Russians.

            Here on the asouth Isde of Chicago we’re not that Concerned about…. The Russians, or the Danes, the Swiss, White Latter Day Saints etc.

            Wow, White Americans become obsessed with some folkish things.

          • Chasmania

            What ever gave you the impression I was worried ? Calling someone a loon isn’t generally polite in WHITE society, but more the ground of internet trolls and their ilk. Thanks for clearing up your status for me.

          • jackryanvb

            Please do not post any more anti Russian, Cold War paranoid that is at least 50 years out of date.

            The White Indo European White Russian people are our kinsmen. The current Russian leader is the best White Russian leader in the world. Russian media like Russia today is White pro White, unlike 98% of the media in the racial madhouse of Amurikuh.

            I thoughts these 1980s Reagan hate the Rushkies loons had finally all died off.

          • Chasmania

            And exactly what did I post that was anti-Russian ? Please answer so I can school you.

  • Garrett Brown

    Welp, were pretty much done if 30 million mestizos are legalized. GG America.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Si

  • WR_the_realist

    The Suicide Party deserves to die. The problem is that they’re taking us with them.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      They are not the Suicide party, they are the Murder-Suicide Party.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        More like the White Genocide Party if you ask me. The Genocidal Old Party (GOP) works too.

  • bilderbuster

    I supported Buchanan every time so I share no blame a’tall.
    I still rub it in the faces of those who voted for a Bush or Dole in the primaries saying that the reason they voted for those losers was because they said they liked Pat but that Bush or Dole could win the White House & Buchanan couldn’t.

    • WR_the_realist

      Voting for a candidate because the mass media tells you he can win is the surest way to be made a fool.

      • bilderbuster

        That’s what I would tell those normally intelligent people who would repeat the same Republican Party line to vote for Dole because Buchanan was “unelectable”.
        “Of course he can’t be elected if you don’t vote for him”.

        • And of course, Bob Dole, very electable, proven winner.

          And also…blue pills.

          • bilderbuster

            That drove me nuts when during his speeches he always referred to himself in third person like you just did LOL!

        • AndrewInterrupted

          And that also cuts to the core of original American ethics.
          When America existed you were taught to vote your conscience.
          The new normal is to take a Vegas, handicapping approach.

  • Spartacus

    Next time you want to blame “capitalism” or “corporate greed”, just remember who the capitalists are :

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Precisely, and they do not deserve to be called capitalists, they are enemy alien tyrannical overlords bent on genocide.

      • Ella

        My son and I laughed at your picture. A tot knows you’re not supposed to wipe with money and the crony govt. does not!

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Before it’s over, our money will be less valuable than toilet paper, just as it was at the end of WW-II in Germany. It’s not funny at all, I see evidence of this every day, and frankly I and others I know who work for everything they ever had are fuming like concentrated nitric acid over this.

          • Ella

            I agree. A little humour helps us to stay sane. I am aware of mass inflation as it becomes harder to save money and pay off mortgage faster. Our house is older and has not been updated yet. Grocery bills are terrible, even with major cutbacks for a family of 4-5.

          • I think you mean WW-I. I have some old 1920’s German postage stamps that were originally stamped at “50 Millionen”, but which were re-stamped as “”5 Milliard”.

          • Sick of it

            Men like them were at the White House not too long ago. They should not have backed down and left.

    • Hal K

      I agree that this isn’t fundamentally just a problem of corporate greed. There is a lack of concern for the well being of typical white Americans. It is not just Jews trying to demographically bury white non-Jews, however. Explicit white solidarity is missing from the consciousness of the the non-Jewish portion of the white corporate elite.

      • Sick of it

        Said group routinely intermarries with Eskimo types. This trend has been going since before I was born (and actually started centuries ago).

    • NoMosqueHere

      Right. Single out the rich jews, ignore the others — typical nazi propaganda

      • Spartacus

        They’re 2% of your country’s population, but a quarter of all billionaires . That should alarm anybody with a minimally functional brain…

      • Max

        No, they very arrogantly single themselves out for us.

        And no one is more practiced at propaganda than the Jews. See: Edward Bernays.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        He’s a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews for pointing out the obvious. Talk about shamelessly indulging in typical leftist propaganda.

      • EuroHero

        No you’re right,…lets just give a free pass to those who are GUILTY just because they happen to be a member of the perfect tribe. I mean lets forget about their control over the IMF, Federal Reserve, AIPAC, Goldman Sachs, Hollywood, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, NBC, almost all the publishing firms, sponsoring and promoting mass 3rd world immigration to only white countries and forced assimilation, and… the BOLSHEVIKS MASS MURDERS THAT DWARFS YOUR “HOLLY”CAUST. Yeah lets just throw all the facts right out the goddamn window just to satisfy all the anti-white libby the libtard Jrs like yourself, sit back, and enjoy the dispossession and displacement. RIGHT, DUUHHHHH!

  • Truth Teller

    There will be two choices, either pay people more or the businesses will collapse. Capitalism runs on the spending of the consumer. If they don’t spend, there is no profit. They can’t turn to other countries for customers either as much because they don’t want to pay them either. The reason I have faith things will turn out right is that we will see businesses and industries collapsing because of the lower wages. The more irrationally people act, the faster things can turn around so I hope irrationality makes us hit rock bottom so there’s nowhere to go but up. The market will essentially correct itself.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Your first paragraph is roughly describing the Henry Ford philosophy.

  • DLRisVH

    I’m not sure what America will be like in the future, will it be like the one depicted in the movie “Idiocracy” or more like “The Planet of The Apes”?

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      Because of the ongoing hispanicization of American social, cultural and political institutions, America will probably have a future similar to the one depicted in the movie “Elysium”.

      • DLRisVH

        After watching the first 6 minutes of that movie I think you are correct, I stand corrected, now I know why my comment was deleted!

  • Dalliance

    How anyone can believe that shipping out jobs and shipping in workers is anything but a recipe for the Void is beyond me. One almost has to imagine that it is deliberate and, if deliberate, then evil. We the People, it seems, need to form a new government, one with an eye to logic, basic principles, and the sense that having a country means something.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      One doesn’t have to “almost” imagine anything. Outsourcing of manufacturing and massive third world immigration are both deliberate and evil policies. Our governments have been hijacked by a hostile elite bent on the destruction of western civilization and the physical extermination of the white race.

      • Dalliance

        I guess I still have that one small shred of belief in this country (or the idea of it being a real country) that I haven’t killed yet, but I’m close, as I imagine are a lot of people. I did debate over the use of that word, so thanks.

        • Sick of it

          Most folks still don’t get that their non-white “friends” will gladly cut their throats, rape them, rob them, set them on fire, etc. the moment law and order completely disappears. They will do the same to the children. Foreigners care nothing for our way of life, our beliefs, our culture, our history.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            I care nothing for non-whites in any respect, and when law and order disappears, they are going to find out that most whites will care nothing about them too.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Idiots think that third world immigrants will love and worship us because we give them free healthcare, welfare, daycare and jobs. But if you let someone take advantage of you, they will see you as naive, trusting and innocent. Non-white foreigners view this kind of pathological altruism as a sign of weakness and will despise you for it. This display of white ethnomasochism only serves to stoke the flames of the non-white foreigner’s hatred. It is this hatred that will ultimately ensure our own destruction and seal the fate of western civilization, unless we can somehow reverse the effects of third world invasion.

            I see third world immigrants for what they are: parasites, cowards, thieves and foreign invaders. They have no place in white countries. When the time comes, the non-white foreigners and their enablers will pay a terrible price for their treachery and the suffering they inflicted on our people and nation.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            I seem them as all the above, and only good for fertilizer once we finish annihilating them, ALL of them. I personally think they will be greasing tank tracks before I am dead.

          • Dalliance

            Funny, I was just thinking through this line of thought this morning. In the end, all one has is family and that as expansively yet closely defined as possible so as to comprise a nation. If a people don’t get to define their race (and the culture that gives birth to it), then someone else is going to define it for them. But there will be race (or the dwindling of one). It’s not a matter of argument. It’s what one loves. In the end, one fights because he has that love. Nature, the bestower of race, appears to approve.

            Thanks for your thoughts. To the others in this thread, likewise.

  • Earl Turner

    Here in Georgia it is coming out that the draconian process for renewing a driver’s license or obtaining a new one in this state, requirements put in place by the state’s Republicans to prevent illegals from getting licenses, doesn’t apply to illegals in many cases.

    Of course it was never meant to apply to illegals in the first place. The state’s GOP had to give the appearance of “doing something” in order to placate their voters, but at the same time they had to take care of the monied elites who fund their campaigns and lavish lifestyles.

    So in the end, they wrote a law that punishes the very people who make up the core constituency of the Republicans. Working class whites. The brain-dead Shaniquas at the DMV hate us as much as the Republicans do and take great delight in taking all the required forms we submit and saying “naw dis ain’t gone work, you needs som’n else.” when in reality, everything submitted is correct, Shaniqua is either too stupid to understand or is just out to deny whitey or both.

    Republicans know this and they love it.

  • WR_the_realist

    Modern day capitalism is about privatizing profits and socializing costs. You just listed those socialized costs.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      That is the kind of rule those who cannot be named impose upon everyone else, no matter how people die as a result.

  • MartelC

    The overwhelming majority of americans are AGAINST giving citizenship to illegal immigrants – but do you notice how that never enters into the discussion?

    What this incident clearly indicates is that we no longer even have a semblance of ‘democracy’ – MSM and our elite clearly think votes don’t matter – about anything.

    I disagree that this is purely corporate greed- this was ideological from the start and driven by ethnic hostility towards the white populations of the US – and Canada, and Australia, and Europe.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      America hasn’t been a democracy since the early 1960s. The country is ruled by a single-party totalitarian dictatorship known as the Party of Massive Third World Immigration and Multiculturalism, where standard democratic procedure has now been reduced to a set of empty formalisms. The only leaders the American people get to elect are figureheads.

  • newscomments70

    1965: The US was mostly a beautiful country of gleaming cities, rolling farmlands, forests and national parks, striking coastlines. We had a high standard of living, two car families, stay-home mothers, ample job opportunities, low crime…but that all had to be destroyed. We needed third world diversity, overpopulation, a 1000%+ increase in crime. We NEEDED this change. The old way was WRONG. If you disagree with me, you’re a nazi.

    • IstvanIN

      We could have stood as an example of what a nation should be, a shining example that the rest of the world could aspire to. Instead we became the rest of the world.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    I’ll give you that Quayle was unfairly treated, but Palin?

    Unprepared, poorly vetted, pithy and just kind of…weird…

    I remember McCain trying to defend her and he looked like a decent actor grunting out dialogue in a horrible movie he was under contract to finish. Knew he’d made a big mistake but put the best face he could on and got out there and grunted it out…

    Red bloody meat to a pack of wolves ol’ mama grizzly was. Called into question McCain’s judgment as well. One heartbeat away.
    Especially after a country weary of a very questionable Republican administration.

    • Sarah Palin’s malapropisms weren’t quite as laughable as Barack Obama’s or Joe Biden’s.

      Really, that’s another thing we have to get over, this mentality that every politician is or should be a super-genius.

      • Sick of it

        Considering how few people there are in Congress or the White House and considering the size of our population, I dare say we should demand geniuses run the government. To keep idiots like [insert politician here] out of office at least and, perhaps, to create a real future for our country. The tax and spend idiots have failed.

        • Except geniuses tend not to win elections, because the personal attitude which almost inevitably comes of very high IQs is off putting to voters.

          People with average and below IQs tend not to get involved in electoral politics, for a lot of reasons.

          High-average IQ is the sweet spot for people involved in electoral politics. High enough to understand what’s going on, but not too high as to be repulsive.

  • Sick of it

    Black people are, on average, hyper-sexual rather than conventional. Black men accept their women screwing around all over the place. This has been true since before we ever meddled with them.

  • IstvanIN

    The only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is their slogan:
    Democrats: “Death to America”
    Republicans: “Lingering death to America”.

    • Sick of it

      This push for amnesty, more legal immigration, and more free trade agreements is putting the Republicans and the Democrats both in the Death to America category. No lingering at the speed things are changing.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      At least the Repugs understand that you can’t suck blood from a dead host.

    • Chasmania

      I have always felt that the Dems and Repub parties were merely flip sides of the same coin.

  • SoulInvictus

    For those that wanted to see a stomp on the accelerator towards collapse… you just got your wish. Not the direction I was hoping for, and once pandora’s box is open it’ll be near impossible to put the toothpaste back in. But the effects may serve as an awakening when people start having a hard time finding english speaking communities and their crime rates sky rocket.
    I remember when a nearby apartment complex in Bham was taken over by hispanics.
    They had once of the more grisly murders I’ve ever heard of. It was like something out of Scarface… beheadings, brazilian neckties, the works. The local news seemed to go out of their way to avoid calling it gang related.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      But, my compound isn’t finished!!!

      • SoulInvictus

        If I only had the money…

        http://wwwDOTmissilebasesDOTcom/properties

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Nice website. They would have to promise me that my bunker was outside the blast radius of baby Zuckerbird’s compound…<;-)

  • Pelagian

    Chris Christie booed at event

    ESPN 22 mins ago

    that guy is so toast..

    • IstvanIN

      He trusted Demorats and Eskimos. Nuff said.

    • DLRisVH

      Good!!

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Yeah, I see it as good news, too.
        For once the Demo-rats did our bidding.
        Let’s make it a trend.

        • Pelagian

          Boston Herald
          28 mins ago

          Experts: Chris Christie dead in water

          Boston Herald

          BRIDGE TO NOWHERE: N.J. Gov. Chris Christie, right, has been irreparably damaged by the scandal involving a manufactured traffic jam on the George Washington Bridge, above.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Finally the Demo-rats are doing are bidding. I think we’ve turned the corner on these gangsters.

            Let’s turn them loose on Rubio next. Let’s imply he suffers from Napoleon Complex or something. Now all the tall people have to pay!

            I heard he walks around the house in stiletto heels, just wondering what it’s like to be as tall as a man. Just a rumor, though. A good rumor. A well placed source–knew a guy–who knew a guy…….

    • And now that he’s toast, the RINO establishment is dusting off:

      Marco Rubio.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Doh…!!!

      • RileyDeWiley

        Bobby Jindal.

  • Lada Belyy

    GOP lost when they allowed the party to be usurped by globalist neo-cons who don’t have any loyalty to our NATIONAL interest. They never intended to be conservative. Hell, half of them are just D “converts”, who switch alliances like most people change underwear, bipartisan progressives, who LOOK like us but have NO LOYALTY to us, reaching across the aisle in the interest of themselves and the multi-national corporations that own them. Reagan won by attracting the true conservative vote, then the GOP was lost to the “middle-of-the-road”, “attract-the-minority-vote”, RINO group and conservative voters have largely stay home ever since, because every candidate they push is weak, compromised, and for-the-most-part not even likable. Stop calling them “corporate America”. They aren’t America. Americans would not have sold out their own NATION like that. These people are aliens and traitors.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    It’s a siege mentality. The Zimmerman event was a good example of things to come. Civil patrols of compounds. Road Warrior.

  • Max

    Do not mistake God’s wrath for globalist’s greed.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Good link.

    Yes, the MSM are the modern day Apparatchiks.

    Have you seen how bad PBS has gotten???

  • AndrewInterrupted

    I agree. I think Reagan’s legacy is the most misstated and hyped.

    • Lada Belyy

      You are both missing the point. I am not “fantasizing”. I merely stated the obvious truth with regard to WHY he WON election, not what he and the GOP did after he was elected. In my opinion, after winning, by a landslide BTW, they stuck a knife in the backs of the voters who elected him.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Reagan’s biological son, Ron Jr. said that his father was clearly pre-Alzheimer’s by 1984. That revelation did not come as a surprise to me.

        He seemed to be mostly a B-movie actor who was easily duped and conned. His signing of amnesty the first time around in 1986 was evidence of that. He also quadrupled the national debt in his 8 years.

        Hard to say how much was “back-stabbing” and how much was the result of missing his afternoon nap.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    I hate to say it, because my family bled in every war for this country, but a veteran can wear out his veteran status if he pushes too far.

    Look how the combat veteran status went to Duke Cunningham’s head. At least I could still idolize Robin Olds. He stayed true.

    McCain is a terrible judge of character. Keating played that guy like a fiddle, leading to the S&L debacle.

  • Sick of it

    McCain got VIP treatment in a Vietnamese prison for the politically connected. His brothers in arms were being tortured, often to death. The SOB even shut down the investigations into POWs who were still in Vietnam. Veteran? Nope.

  • Sick of it

    Ignoring the rate at which said people intermarry with the tribe to which I was referring, one could honestly say that, through extreme endogamy, they have created a new tribe of their own, in opposition to the rest of humanity. This is not a recent event.

  • Sick of it

    Judeo-Christian is a false modern term. If you don’t believe me, read the New Testament. Particularly Revelation 3:8-9.

  • refocus

    You are mistaken.

  • Anon

    They are Third World peoples. They believe in government action and government programs that provide their families with free education, health care, housing, food and income subsidies.
    The entire article is a lie. And one easily exposed as such by anyone who spends two seconds thinking about it.
    Money is not real. Maybe 5% of American money has some physical manifestation by nature of actually being printed on paper. The other 95% is no more real than the virtual currency of an online game like World of Warcraft. Do you know what a person who had $10 billion dollars in a Cypress bank account is? A pauper. Think about that. Think very carefully.
    Raw materials are real. Labor is real. Wealth is the interaction of raw materials and labor that isn’t used up by everyone involved. Some people think land is real (as in “real” estate). Ask the people who lived in Detroit 50 years ago about that. Then offer to buy their old house for a $1.
    25%…..that is what the real unemployment rate is currently. One in four people who are providing labor. In theory, that is a lot of potential wealth that isn’t created. In practice, these people still consume and are a tremendous negative wealth source.
    This article implies that greed is behind immigration. I say that is a lie. These people are not stupid. They don’t want money, especially money that is Zimbabwe style dollars. They want WEALTH…..wealth and power.
    Let me put it another way that perhaps might make how ridiculous this is, more clear. Let’s say you are going to war and have limited resources. Which would you prefer. One hundred white men….hardened soldiers, heavily trained and armed with the best high tech weapons, vehicles, a solid supply chain. Or one thousand negros….armed with machetes, bottles, sticks, whatever, barefoot with barely enough food to last out the week, on foot and no way to resupply.
    Who do you think would win?

    • IstvanIN

      Is paper money “wealth”, no, it is simply a medium of exchange, but the people who are selling us out are able to live quite well using our paper dollars, and that is all they care about, today. If their children or grand children’s throats get slit, they don’t care because they won’t be here. Either that or they figure their grand kids will be brown. None the less they only care for today, and not about a positive legacy.

      • Chasmania

        I’m sure those ruling elite plan on sipping cocktails behind walls guarded by their minions, far removed from any threat posed by third world hordes.

        • IstvanIN

          Didn’t do Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette any good, and they weren’t treasonous, simply inept and victims of bad press.

          • Chasmania

            Ah yes, but they didn’t have a fully fueled 747 and the foresight to live further away from the discontented ! C’est la vie.

          • IstvanIN

            But once the West is fully diversified and the Yuan becomes the world reserve currency, where will they live?

          • Chasmania

            Where ever their influence and money can allow them, I’m sure. The rest of us will have to make due.

  • M&S

    >>
    Yes McCain is just as open border friendly as Bush, but he actually did some serious war time in Vietnam.
    >>

    Being a POW is not the same as ‘serious time’ in a warzone. McCain lost his balls rather than affirming his killer instinct and now is the worst kind of moderate: going which ever way the wind blows. The man has no spine.

    >>
    Bush was a country clubbing carpetbagger who sure was able to dupe the Southern voters though.
    >>

    Bush is rich, the rich have nothing in common with the ordinary man because they do not see the value of continuity as the underyling principle which gives their wealth stability and assurance. Bush lives in a world where he /actually believes/ that the planet will host rich whites without a national homeland as though they still had something of import to contribute after destroying their own culture.

    The ROW doesn’t think that way, they have real national and racial loyalty.

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    Now some on this thread from Dixie like to bash Bush now. But when he was in office he sure carried most of the Red states, didn’t he?
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    The South lives in terror of their black population, anything which doesn’t force them to integrate with that is a good thing. Now they are getting the reverse of this which is more Hispanics with their drunkenness, dependence and insular squatterism. And -still- they cannot connect the dots with the reality of multiracial presidents selling a false dichotomy of equality as the enabler of society rather than a race exclusive right to rape whites.

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    Now that Obama is another conniving president all of a sudden he’s the worst?
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    Bush was seen as white. Obama was always black. And yet after a single term where Stimulus, ACORN, DOJ ‘My People’ and the beginnings of Obamacare all put the obvious racist weighting of a black-for-blacks rather than a President for Americans, we reelected him anyway.

    Fool me once is a handy truism.

    But it’s hard to be fooled by someone who is exactly what he seems to be and that means whites have gone from idiotic dupes who see the color of a mans genes in his skin and not his policies to flatly retarded for being ‘surprised’ that the genes, the skin and the policies ALL LINE UP.

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    He’s bad but I actually think Holder and his ilk are the most corrupt and despicable in the entire crew. ACORN, NBPP, EBT, NAACP, SPLC, just an alphabet soup of Marxist mayhem and AA gibsmedats from the usual suspects.
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    Yes, but you are seeing the symptoms, not the goal. The Goal is OWG. Tearing down the U.S. as an ethnic superpower via a train of incompetent, malignant, authoritarian Presidents is about making it all too easy to offer an alternative which nobody complains about because our country is in ruins anyway.

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    But sadly the (R) party is no better. I agree with Buchanan. Read his book Suicide of a Superpower. Lots of intriguing and excellent points which shows the way the White world will end if immigration isn’t curtailed. One thing that could save us is the new European push of immigrants over here. That may happen if Europe gets Muslim enough.
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    Oh please.

    1. We exist in a race replacement condition where admitting whites would be tantamount to admitting the the browning of white societies ‘was not a good idea’ and had to be leavened with real quality populations to offset the sludge. Where the intention is obviously annihilation, no White Population is going to be allowed to self-evacuate to avoid overrun and blendout in place. None.

    2. Why come to America when there are no jobs here to build wealth base with? ANYONE can buy their way into our nation (Mexican Millionaire drug lords and monopolists do it all the time) with a big enough donation. But the kinds of people who might leave Europe are the kinds of people looking for a place to make money. And that is not a 3rd World service economy like the U.S..

    3. Canada and Australia and perhaps Brazil are much easier to get into, still have semi-functional industrial and technical economies and have sufficient currency stability as Euro or Pound driven exchange ratios that a working class immigrant from Europe could reasonably hope to make a decent currency change without losing their shirt.

    If you want to retake America, you have to do _just that_. Arresting, trying, hanging a very large segment of our wealth class and almost the entire political class in one rapid sweep. Which would be tantamount to what Hitler did in Europe because an overwhelming number of those who back/dictate Obama’s plays are Jews.

    Then what?

    You have a seething population of 40% ethnic black and browns forming some 80-100 million total population. You have no advanced robotics to replace them as scut workers and you have an entire planet looking at you like you’re the next Nazis.

    Just because you want your country back.

    People look at WWII as guidelines for ‘how bad it could be’. But the truth is that WWII happened when much of our world was still underpopulated. A civil war in the U.S. to reassert rule of Constitutional Law ‘as our founders intended for their posterity’ (white culture for white middle classes) and this would result in tens of millions dead before they could be convinced to be evicted and ejected.

    There is not a single white in America with those kinds of stones.

  • John R

    What is the only chance to save the Republicans? Here goes, and it may offend some on this site, sorry. But insist on restricting the franchise once again to property owners. Might be hard to do, but think of what it would accomplish: Nearly all the “persons of color” who are invading, or destroying, America, are not property owners. It would reestablish an overwhelmingly White electorate.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      How about restricting the franchise to white male property owners of high IQ?

  • gubblerchechenova

    If the GOP went out of its way to serve the global elites, then how come 2/3 of the super-rich are Democrats? How come big cities that gained so much from globalism are Democratic?

  • Transpower

    This is one of the reasons why I switched form the Wall Street Journal to Investor’s Business Daily. It is absolutely essential for the country to have secure borders.

  • Tom B

    Correct. So what we have is globalists on the “right” and cultural marxists on the left. Deadly combo…