Activists Urge Obama to Go Rogue, Sidestep Congress

Stephen Dinan, Washington Times, December 5, 2013

President Obama’s repeated use of presidential powers is causing a tough problem—his own supporters now expect him to use it to achieve everything they want.

From immigration to the minimum wage, congressional Democrats and liberal activists this week urged Mr. Obama to declare an end run around Capitol Hill, assert executive authority and make as much progress as he can on the expansive agenda he laid out for his second term.

A day after Mr. Obama denounced income inequality, progressive lawmakers said he should take the lead by issuing an executive order requiring all federal contractors to pay workers more than the minimum wage. A dozen lawmakers and immigration activists held a news conference outside the Capitol on Thursday asking him to halt all deportations as a down payment on an eventual immigration bill.

“To not use his executive authority is not just unstrategic; it is cruel,” said Tania Unzueta, a strategist with the National Day Laborer Organizing Network.

On immigration, Mr. Obama raised expectations when, after years of denying he had such powers, he issued a policy last year saying he no longer would deport young illegal immigrants, the “Dreamers” who were brought to the U.S. as minors by their parents and are considered the most sympathetic cases. He said he was using prosecutorial discretion.

More than two dozen House Democrats have written a letter to Mr. Obama saying he can expand that authority to encompass nearly all 11 million illegal immigrants.

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Mr. Obama’s base, though, wants to see more—as he learned last week on a trip to the West Coast, where he was met with hecklers.

One man interrupted the president’s immigration speech to urge him to halt all deportations, just as he did for the Dreamers. Mr. Obama said he didn’t have that much power.

Hours later, as Mr. Obama ticked off his agenda at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser, a man in the audience repeatedly called out “executive order.”

“Somebody keeps on yelling, ‘Executive order.’ Well, I’m going to actually pause on this issue because a lot of people have been saying this lately on every problem, which is, just sign an executive order, and we can pretty much do anything and basically nullify Congress,” the president said—immediately drawing approving applause from his audience.

“Wait, wait, wait, before everybody starts clapping—that’s not how it works,” Mr. Obama said. “We got this Constitution. We got this whole thing about separation of powers and branches.”

{snip}

Presidents argue that they are allowed to interpret the laws, and President George W. Bush regularly issued signing statements laying out how he saw the laws Congress passed.

Mr. Obama criticized that practice and hasn’t issued anywhere near the number of signing statements, but analysts said he is still stretching the limits of his power by usurping Congress and the courts.

{snip}

Rep. Raul M. Grijalva, the Arizona Democrat who led Thursday’s rally outside the Capitol, said while it’s probably true the president can’t halt all deportations, he can take some more steps, such as not applying the full 10-year bar of admission to those who enter the country illegally.

“He’s probably legally correct saying, ‘I can’t do that, are you crazy?’ But OK, what are the options?” he said. “The first time we approached him on the Dreamers: ‘No, can’t do that, I don’t have the power.’ We think there are options that do extend the power.”

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  • dd121

    If a US president won’t follow our laws, why should we follow his decrees?

    • Erasmus

      Agreed. Barack Hussein Obama has undermined Americans’ respect for the law to a degree that the most hardcore Soviet commie would have never dared dream in his wildest fantasies.

      The US really is on its last legs. No one like Obama, Duh-byah or Clintoon could have been elected president if the US were still a civically healthy republic.

      • Alexandra1973

        I believe the last decent president we had was JFK, womanizing aside (as a side note, I heard he became a Christian weeks before his death). Look at what this country has had to deal with for the past 50 years.

        • dd121

          I never trusted that Pied Piper either.

        • So CAL Snowman

          The last decent “American” president was William McKinley and they assassinated him.

          • George Clark

            F**k, I personally think you have to go back to Thomas Jefferson, myself. Or maybe Andrew Jackson, although I do have a lot of problems with the way that Jackson told the Supreme Court to f**k off when he was in an Indian killing mood. Set a precedent for Obama, even if he’s too ignorant to realize it.

          • Thor Bonham

            Reason for all the cussing ? Just remove the cussing out of your post and it would look and sound the same, so what is the reason for it ? Just curious ..

          • mobilebay

            Thank you, Thor. I often wonder why some posters feel that no one minds their language. It’s like a dash of cold water in the face when you’re reading a post and come upon words that are substituted for someone’s lack of a good vocabulary. Fortunately, Mr. Clark began his post with an obscenity and saved me from wasting my time reading the rest of his post.

          • Sick of it

            Jackson was very fair in his dealings with the Indians who were massacring white Americans. He offered citizenship to defeated peoples and many accepted. The other side preferred to torture people to death or force them to bear their their children.

          • George Clark

            You make a very valid point. I was flippant about Jackson and his dealings with Indians, and you are correct. I do, however, wish that he had not been so brazen in defying the Supreme Court. I believe it set a bad precedent. Although it is sort of cool to imagine Jackson flipping the bird to Marshall. I appreciate the correction.

          • Sick of it

            Not sure about the particulars of that case, but the Supreme Court has overstepped their constitutional bounds for a very long time. They need to be be put in their place periodically. Judges can’t just make law via strange interpretations, or more irritatingly, reinterpretations. Take the modern Supreme Court…they continue to make rulings which run contrary to previous Supreme Court rulings which were matters of settled law for centuries in some cases. These people do not have the authority to do what they have been.

          • George Clark

            I agree with you in spirit, however–when we ignore the Supreme
            Court, we invite anarchy. Even when it is demonstratively wrong–as in Chief Justice Roberts’ opinion on Obamacare–I hesitate to ignore the court. As wrong as they may be sometimes, the Supreme Court is the last gate. If we ignore the rulings of the Supreme Court, then we may as well toss aside any inkling of being a constitutional republic, and simply say that the mob now rules. And maybe the mob does now rule, and maybe I am just being sentimental about a time when Americans were truly free.

          • Sick of it

            All three branches are currently working against the Constitution and We the People. Unless that somehow changes in the near future, I expect some nasty divorce proceedings in this country.

            With people keeping their heads in the sand, a reborn American constitutional republic becomes that much less likely to happen. The probably of more radical alternatives increases with each year.

          • George Clark

            What you say is sad, but true. It won’t be much longer, relatively speaking, before the majority of Americans of voting age will simply not be able to remember a time when America was relatively free. The history books have been rewritten already. For some reason, I keep visualizing that scene from “Soylent Green” where Edward G. Robinson’s character is trying to explain to Heston’s character about the way things used to be. Heston’s character simply has no context to place what Saul is telling him. And the scene when Saul breaks down after eating some beef that Thorn purloined from an apartment–he simply can’t believe that American Society has been reduced to the level it has been reduced to. Sorry for rambling. But we are not very far from becoming the America of “Soylent Green.”

        • John K

          Kennedy is overrated, he was a pill popper and a womanizer. Anything good he did was a result of his handlers. Kennedy was also an enabler as was his family, and is the reason the declaration of war on white America was passed; it is known as the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It was Kennedy that paved the way.

          I believe Ronald Reagan was the only good president we’ve had in the past 60 years. Sure, he passed MLK Day, but he was forced to do it. “Peace through superior firepower”, Reagan defeated the Soviet Union without firing a shot. Then George H. W. Bush came in and began the decline of America, Bill Clinton made us vulnerable and degenerate, George W. Bush put us into debt, and now the accidental president Barack Hussein Obama is here to finish us off.

          • Alexandra1973

            There was also 1986 amnesty.

            BTW when I say “decent” I mean relatively speaking.

          • obot

            Reagan also gave amnesty to 3 million illegal squats

          • Thor Bonham

            Yeah but there were strings attached that were never materialized, because of the libtards lying and going back on their word .. Trust me, he didn’t do it out of the goodness of his heart ..

          • Greg Thomas

            He did it for the same reasons the RINOS of today are doing it. Big business and the White-hating left demand it.

          • Thor Bonham

            Yeah Reagan was a RINO .. Now I’ve heard it all .. PPpfftt !!

          • George Clark

            Poor Reagan–he thought that there was a pony in there somewhere…

          • Greg Thomas

            Regan lost his chance to be a “good president” when he gave amnesty to 3 million illegal invading mexicans. Now 25 years later, there are 30 million illegal invading mexicans demanding another amnesty.

          • bilderbuster

            He didn’t do squat about the illegals flooding into CA when he was a two term border state governor there either.

        • Thor Bonham

          Sweetheart, you’re forgetting about one of the best… President Reagan ..

          • Garrett Brown

            Reagan was decent in his first term, not so much his second.

          • Thor Bonham

            Everyone has their own opinion ..

        • mobilebay

          JFK was a “Christian” all his life by virtue of being a Catholic. However, he didn’t always adhere to Christian principles. With brother Teddy instituting one of the earlier open-borders bills, JFK may have gone along with it.We’ll never know, will we? But, we do know we have Teddy to thank for starting illegals on “the path.

          • bilderbuster

            Teddy couldn’t have done it without Senator Jacob Javits.

        • bilderbuster

          There’s a lot of myths about Kennedy I see promoted here but little fact.
          Fact: JFK stole the election in Illinois & Texas & W.Virginia.
          Myth: Kennedy wanted to end US involvement in Vietnam.
          Fact: Kennedy approved the CIA coup against the South Vietnamese government & increased US military “advisers” from 600 under Eisenhower to 16,000.
          Myth: Kennedy wanted to get rid of the CIA.
          Fact: Kennedy used the CIA for all kinds of harebrained stuff like coups in Vietnam to exploding cigars against Castro.

        • Garrett Brown

          JFK started what Johnson put through. He was a horrible president.

      • Emperor Naked

        In a nation where there are no longer any true statesman and where everyone is out to grab what they can for themselves, why should anyone be surprised that they were re-elected? No one is innocent.

        • Marc Zuckurburg

          We need comprehensive immigration reform.

          Comprehensive immigration reform will raise wages and salaries, strengthen national security, prevent terrorism, enhance our domestic crime-fighting ability, ensure that we continue to encourage the best and brightest to partake of the American dream, enhance our competitiveness and our ability to innovate, and make America more prosperous.

          Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!

          • Emperor Naked

            Except that what comprehensive immigration reform means in the most popularly flogged definition is NOT what you describe, but a cave in to all the demands of illegal and legal immigrants and their advocates.

          • me

            Trollin’ trollin’ trollin’
            Keep up with the trollin’…rawhide!
            Trollin’ down the river….
            Shake, rattle, and troll…
            Troll me a river…

    • because the Federal Government will arrest you and put you in an 8 x 8 ‘ cell for a very long time for not following a decree.

      • dd121

        I guess I’m naive but I always expected (and hoped) that our jury system would be the last invincible line against enforcing the oppressive laws of an overreaching government.
        But it’s not.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Remember not only the names of these democrats, but also the names of the republicans who were too afraid to do anything.

  • The political problem for Obama is that there is already almost no real enforcement of immigration law and almost no real deportations. So what they want Obama to do, Obama is already doing quietly (and every President since Eisenhower has quietly). But if he goes out in public and issues some sort of executive action, to do what he’s already doing, it will amount to no change in what is actually happening in terms of non-enforcement, but it gets Obama on record officially and openly as not wanting immigration enforcement, and does so in an election year, (if he does it after January 1).

  • Marc Zuckurburg

    I support comprehensive immigration reform.

    Comprehensive immigration reform will raise wages and salaries, strengthen national security, prevent terrorism, enhance our domestic crime-fighting ability, ensure that we continue to encourage the best and brightest to partake of the American dream, enhance our competitiveness and our ability to innovate, and make America more prosperous.

    Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!

  • bigone4u

    The imperial presidency takes us back to the tyranny of the king. We overthrew a king once and I expect we can do it again. Let’s face it. The former USA is already well down the path to being a nation of men, not a nation of law. Secession in serious form should start the minute Obama formally legalizes the lawbreakers who have invaded our once fair land. And by fair, yes, I mean white.

    • IstvanIN

      Kings rarely, if ever, had the kind of power our President has. Kings have to satisfy parliaments, nobles and the general public. Plus a King has a certain desire to pass his throne and kingdom to his heirs. King George didn’t have nearly the power ascribed to him, he was largely the personification of Britain.

  • Lewis33

    You just wait until this guy only has a few months left and has one foot on the crazy train out of town. The flurry of Ex. orders and pardons is going to make slick Willie look like a piker.

    • George Clark

      Unless the congenital syphilis he picked up from his father, Frank Marshall Davis, gets him first.

      • Interesting, never heard this before.

        • Thor Bonham

          Me either , I’d love to hear more about it, too ..

      • me

        And mommy, too….

  • borogirl54

    I personally think that Obama wishes that immigration would go away. The only reason DACA exists is because several of the young illegal immigrations held sit ins at his campaign offices. I heard of a group of illegal immigrants that held a sing in at John Boehner’s office in the Capitol building that were arrested because they disrupted business in the building.

  • WR_the_realist

    I wish some Republicans would grow some stones and sign a letter threatening to impeach Obama if he grants illegal aliens amnesty by executive order.

    • Alexandra1973

      Impeach? I’m all for arresting Obama and tossing him in the hoosegow!

    • Well threatening to impeach and removing by impeachment are 2 different issues. Obama is still a very popular president, compared to the average 2nd term President, and any “bark is worse than the bite” move by people threatening to impeach would undoubtedly backfire.

      Amnesty appears unavoidable and not only will it add 11 MM voters to the Democratic Party but it will add all those who are of Latin background & who support amnesty. Right now supporting deportation was like supporting Apartheid in South Africa in the 1980’s. You’ll have student groups and college campuses everywhere rioting about the unusually cruel people who are for deportation.

  • Spartacus

    “Wait, wait, wait, before everybody starts clapping—that’s not how it
    works,” Mr. Obama said. “We got this Constitution. We got this whole
    thing about separation of powers and branches.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Now he remembers…

    • I can only imagine the garbage he spouted when he was a UC lecturer.

      • Ella

        Today’s students probably slept or text through the lectures.

    • mobilebay

      He’s got three more years to change his mind and say, “Welllll, maybe I can.”Scary.

  • Emperor Naked

    In Arizona there has been talk of a civil war for some time now. I have a saved article from The Phoenix Civil Rights Examiner dated August 27, 2011that says;

    “Phoenix based Nuestros Reconquistos claims that there will be a civil war fought in the next five years. “La Raza and MECha have already talked to Latinos and Phoenix explained that Latinos need to arm themselves for war, says Nuestros Reconquistos President Manuel Longoria.

    Cecilia Maldonado of Chicanos Unidos Arizona isn’t hoping for any sort of war, but believes it may be unavoidable. “For generations, our people have prepared us to take back the lands of the Southwest that were stolen from our Mexican ancestors. Because of the bad economy and many racist laws, Latinos will be forced to fight sooner or later,” says Mrs. Maldonaldo.”

    The Latinos in the Southwest have been teaching their children and adults about the old 1915 plan for the genocide of white males and takeover of the Southwest. The plan was drafted in San Diego, Texas by rebels loyal to Carranza. The plan called for a sudden uprising whereby all white males over sixteen years of age would be murdered in a series of quick raids, in order to start a race war. The Texas Rangers learned about it when they arrested a leader named Basillo Ramos, in McAllen, Texas. The ensuing skirmishes showed that the would be invaders didn’t have enough local support and the takeover was soon abandoned. Today, they believe that they have the numbers to do this (2011).

    The article goes on to say that the Latino groups think that they have enough people to fight the a war against the United States successfully. A magazine seller at a gun show I was at a few months ago told me that Mexicans are buying large capacity magazines, like 50 and higher.

    I think that the Latinos tend to over estimate themselves, but I also think that this article reporting the pushiness of immigration activists is a sign of growing frustration as they think that they can push a U.S. President to side step Congress to give them what they demand.

    • mobilebay

      Why don’t we hear of other nationalities marching and demanding the benefits of our country, such as those who’ve waited for years to come in legally? No, it’s the Hispanics who break into our country who are the loudest. What is it with them? Does anyone ever think they can stay in their own countries and bring about change? Problem is, we now have “leaders” who have been corrupted with the lure of votes and payoffs, and can’t wait to welcome the lawbreakers. Europeans built this nation, but it now belongs to the third world who’ll keep our politicians in the style to which they’ve become accustomed. Most belong out on the street because of what they’ve done to this once-proud and patriotic nation.

  • MBlanc46

    And, in fact, Geo. W. Bush had a go at passing an immigration amnesty. The Repub party by no means opposes amnesty, only a faction–right-wing populists–does.

  • obot

    They did pass and fund the border wall bill, but never built it.

  • MBlanc46

    “Why do so many people come on Amren and try to make it out like the Republican Party as a whole are in favor of amnesty?”

    Nobody said any such thing. I certainly didn’t. The Republican Party did not oppose Bush’s amnesty proposal. A faction in the Congress opposed it. Reagan was a Republican. The Bushes are Republicans. McCain is a Republican. Rubio is a Republican. The corporate elite, who can hardly hire enough Mexicans and other Third World immigrants, are largely Republican. If you want to pretend that the Republicans are your ally on this issue, that’s up to you. I prefer to watch what’s actually going on.

    • WR_the_realist

      Nearly every single Democrat favors illegal immigration. About 25% of Republican politicians do. So while the Republicans have plenty of turncoats on immigration, they are far better on the whole than the Democrats on this issue. Now if only they weren’t so pro war and anti environment.

      • MBlanc46

        And that 25% added to the Dems provides an overwhelming congressional majority for amnesty. There’s no electoral hope for anti-immigration any time soon, if ever.

  • Massif1

    Obama is already disliked by millions of blacks for “not doing enough for the brothers” and now if he allows millions of illegals receive jobs and benefits, his folks might even go on TV and say they wouldn’t of voted for him. On the other hand, if millions of Mexicans become eligible for jobs we wouldn’t need to give Akisha $15 to mess up easy food orders.

    • MBlanc46

      There are some blacks who are warning their confreres about the Mexican menace, but most black “leaders” are too attached to the teat of the Dems to speak up, even if they recognize the danger.

  • IstvanIN

    LBJ killed over 50,000 American men and maimed countless more. He signed the disastrous immigration and civil rights laws. He was truly evil. Nixon gave us affirmative action and opened China (while selling Taiwan down the river). Those two almost make Jimma Carter look ok.

    • bilderbuster

      Nixon desegregated the public schools with busing thereby making our educational system the envy of the Third World.

      • I suspect the SCOTUS did that.

        • bilderbuster

          Maybe so but it was under his watch and he let it happen without a fight.

  • Ella

    If the citizens refuse to physically protest or just whine on about the unfair Dreamers amnesty, the government will continue to do its damage as we continue to complain from our computers. It takes activism and a push back towards the government who continues to deny our strengths. Is our government really scared of us? Where is our boundary or how bad does it have to be before we react? 20 million more immigrants? 460 million US population? 30 trillion debt? This has to be a slow drip of death.

    • MBlanc46

      You’re absolutely right, Ella. The only thing that they recognize is force. I’m not talking about violence, I’m talking about thousands and tens of thousands of people protesting in the streets, as the pro-immigration activists do. If we don’t get busy, it will be too late.

  • me

    Couldn’t have put it better myself. Great post.

  • kenfrombayside

    Keep the pressure on your reps in congress. Giving 11 – 30 million (nobody knows for sure) criminal lawbreakers legalization pure insanity. Plus, they could sponsor their relatives; that would bring the total up to about 50 million aliens in our midst. Of course, these new citizens will vote for the vile democrats and their socialist giveaways. Most of them will be unskilled, uneducated, low IQ etc. Stop this outrageous bill now. Don’t sit on the sidelines.You are not wasting your time. The American people don’t want this bill. You have to do all you can do to stem the third world assault:
    – Contact your 2 US Senators and rep in congress.
    – after biz hours, leave a message on your DC rep’s voicemail. All US Senators have multiple offices so it would be a good idea to hit all of the. Remember, be civil and don’t threaten
    – go to NUMBERSUSA then go to the take action button. You will be able to send faxes to your 2 US Senators and congressional for free. (I also gave a $50 donation).
    – use Business Reply envelopes to state your opposition to America’s insane immigration policies and the proposed amnesty. Don’t give the parties any money.
    – join an immigration group like FAIR. Strength thru numbers!
    – go to the RNC & DNC sites to email them.
    – Use the media: call a talk radio program; write a letter to your local paper. If the media outlet is liberal, then talk about economic impact of massive third world immigration.
    – text everybody in your cell phone queue now.
    IF YOU DO OR SAY NOTHING, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM….

  • kenfrombayside

    Yes, it’s true immigrants are taking jobs Americans won’t do: drug smuggler; drug pusher; prostitute; murderous drunk drive; welfare recipient; baby maker; and prison inmate.

  • Bossman

    Those tribes resisted everybody who was not of the tribe. And today their numbers have been reduced to insignificance. So what is the point?

    • bilderbuster

      That Mexico never controlled those lands anyways.

  • bilderbuster

    Linda Graham is a Log Cabin Republican.