Blighted Cities Prefer Razing to Rebuilding

Timothy Williams, New York Times, November 12, 2013

Shivihah Smith’s East Baltimore neighborhood, where he lives with his mother and grandmother, is disappearing. The block one over is gone. A dozen rowhouses on an adjacent block were removed one afternoon last year. And on the corner a few weeks ago, a pair of houses that were damaged by fire collapsed. The city bulldozed those and two others, leaving scavengers to pick through the debris for bits of metal and copper wire.

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For the Smiths, the bulldozing of city blocks is a source of anguish. But for Baltimore, as for a number of American cities in the Northeast and Midwest that have lost big chunks of their population, it is increasingly regarded as a path to salvation. Because despite the well-publicized embrace by young professionals of once-struggling city centers in New York, Seattle and Los Angeles, for many cities urban planning has often become a form of creative destruction.

“It is not the house itself that has value, it is the land the house stands on,” said Sandra Pianalto, the president and chief executive of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. “This led us to the counterintuitive concept that the best policy to stabilize neighborhoods may not always be rehabilitation. It may be demolition.”

Large-scale destruction is well known in Detroit, but it is also underway in Baltimore, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Buffalo and others at a total cost of more than $250 million. Officials are tearing down tens of thousands of vacant buildings, many habitable, as they seek to stimulate economic growth, reduce crime and blight, and increase environmental sustainability.

A recent Brookings Institution study found that from 2000 to 2010 the number of vacant housing units nationally had increased by 4.5 million, or 44 percent. And a report by the University of California, Berkeley, determined that over the past 15 years, 130 cities, most with relatively small populations, have dissolved themselves, more than half the total ever recorded in the United States.

The continuing struggles of former manufacturing centers have fundamentally altered urban planning, traditionally a discipline based on growth and expansion.

Today, it is also about disinvestment patterns to help determine which depopulated neighborhoods are worth saving; what blocks should be torn down and rebuilt; and based on economic activity, transportation options, infrastructure and population density, where people might best be relocated. Some even focus on returning abandoned urban areas into forests and meadows.

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In all, more than half of the nation’s 20 largest cities in 1950 have lost at least one-third of their populations. And since 2000, a number of cities, including Baltimore, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Buffalo, have lost around 10 percent; Cleveland has lost more than 17 percent; and more than 25 percent of residents have left Detroit, whose bankruptcy declaration this summer has heightened anxiety in other postindustrial cities.

The result of this shrinkage, also called “ungrowth” and “right sizing,” has been compressed tax bases, increased crime and unemployment, tight municipal budgets and abandoned neighborhoods. {snip}

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Philadelphia, which has 40,000 vacant lots, has promoted the benefits of lower-density living by allowing people in largely vacant neighborhoods to spread out to the lot next door—where a neighbor’s home once was. The city has been studying a plan to sell $500 leases to urban farmers. One such farm, Greensgrow, which was built on a former Superfund site, sold $1 million in produce in 2012.

Baltimore has begun to turn over vacant lots to groups of amateur farmers. Boone Street Farm, boxed in by abandoned rowhouses on an eighth of an acre, is completing its third season of growing tomatoes, spinach, sweet potatoes and other fruits and vegetables in the city’s Midway neighborhood. It sells produce to restaurants, has a table at a local farmers market and delivers $10 boxes of produce weekly to members of its community-supported agriculture program.

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  • Whitetrashgang

    Half of blacks are on welfare, they should all be growing their own food and selling the excess instead of food stamps. Isnt it why they were brought here? Also they could grow their own weed and save their welfare cheque for weaves and stuff.

    • Sick of it

      Half is too positive. Remember that the men who aren’t on the programs live with women who are on the programs. The men have to make themselves scarce before the property is inspected or the resident female could lose her voucher.

      • kjh64

        That is true. All of these “single moms” on welfare in public housing almost always have a man that lives with them, usually one of the “baby daddies”. The man doesn’t pay any rent, utilities, gets free food and as such, the ones that work get to keep most of their salary as they don’t have to pay rent or feed their kids etc.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        Making themselves scarce is tantamount to Leroy hiding in the closet until the social worker leaves.

      • kris

        “inspected”?? HAHHAHAH you grew up on 60s TV, didn’t you? They don’t DO inspections today. There are no inspections. Don’t you watch Judge Judy? Half of the people on their are on some kind of welfare and they always bring their live in boyfriend along to sit down there, Judge Judy always yells out “WHO ARE YOU?” sullen, stupid guy replies “I’s de boy fren” judy always gets out of them that the woman is on welfare has a bunch of kids on SSI or SSDI and food stamps, the guy may or may not be the baby daddy, and he lives with her and has no job. They never get married because then their benefits will stop.

        • Sick of it

          Maybe in big northern cities, but my mother used to inspect homes/apartments for HUD. She did her inspections on a routine basis. She took vouchers away when people did not follow the rules. And no, I did not grow up that long ago.

    • Viking_61

      They could be enticed to move onto black reservations with the promise that they could grow weed, smoke crack, or do anything they want if they just left us alone.

  • Jesse James

    Most of these cities don’t have the choice of gentrification that could save some valuable properties, these places have been abandoned to crack addicts and not maintained for decades now, not a few years. There is no gentry to move into these areas long ceded to the black blight. Bulldozing abandoned properties and turning areas that otherwise would present lawless areas characterized by no power, no government services, home to outlaws and vagrants, stray dogs and despair is a good idea. I vote for turning these areas back into grassland and second growth woods.

    • So CAL Snowman

      This has the insipid feeling of Agenda 21s push for “Open Spaces”

      • Jesse James

        I don’t know much about Agenda 21,though I have seen it mentioned a lot. Does anyone have any good links that summarize what Agenda 21 is all about and who is pushing it.

        • MekongDelta69

          Here:
          http://en[dot]wikipedia[dot]org/wiki/Agenda_21
          (From the left – Wiki is a leftist site.)

          http://www[dot]green-agenda[dot]com/agenda21%5Bdot%5Dhtml
          (From the ‘right’)

          It’s also a book by Glenn Beck.

          • Jesse James

            Thank you.

          • Jesse James

            “”Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class -involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances,
            air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable. A shift
            is necessary which will require a vast strengthening of the
            multilateral system, including the United Nations.”

            So they are deliberately crashing the West and by bringing in all the Third World immigrants from high population areas to the relatively low population density of the United States they are both equalizing population densities and they make it easier to destroy our sovereignty and drop our standard of living. These non-white neighbors of ours will probably be happy to cooperate with the UN security forces that will enter the US to enforce the global governments dictates.

          • ThomasER916

            Yes. I’ve written about this on other blogs. We know about the mass immigration into Sweden and Britain by Jews and Leftists, but we rarely hear about places like Tennessee or Lewiston, Maine.

            Lewiston, Maine was 94% white Christian. The US State Department shipped in several thousand Somali Muslims. Over 19 in 20 live on government assistance, food stamps, and EBT. They’ve bankrupted the town. The white taxpayer is paying for their housing, while whites struggle to make rent. The white taxpayer is paying for their tuition, while whites struggle on minimum wage.

            Make no mistake, this is genocide.

          • Ella

            Did they ever cut off the welfare yet? I heard that many Somalis came from NYC. Since the welfare benefits were very generous for Maine residents to use in times of emergencies, these programs attracted the worst types of course.

          • Mergatroyd

            Those particular Somalis were settled in Atlanta, Georgia originally. They and their children were being mistreated, harassed and assaulted by American blacks in the schools, etc.

            What Somalis do is send out scouts who look for places with the best welfare benefits and Maine was it. After they settle in, they use family reunification laws to bring over 90 of their relatives. The US was using DNA to determine whether the Somalis were actually family members but I believe this has been discontinued so Somalis could continue to pour into the US via refugee organizations.

            I cannot think of a worse refugee or immigrant than a Somali. Not a single one of these creatures belongs on our continent.

          • Ella

            It explains the rapid crime increases in places like Boise, ID and Twin cities. They also get into Medicaid scams claiming their children to have Autism and MR from vaccines. They have a high claimant for mental illness and MR. A good site to read about crimes by refugees is Refugeeresettlement watch, world press. This is the latest: ” In the last few years, more than 4,000 refugees have found their way [Dear young reporter, they don’t “find their way,” they are taken there by a federal contractor–ed]
            to a far-flung spot: Idaho. Most of the state’s incoming refugees come to Boise. For years, the city’s strong economy, good-quality affordable housing and supportive community created an especially favorable environment for refugee resettlement. The recession has shifted that picture.”
            Is there any desirable place to raise our children in the USA?

          • saxonsun

            When we visited Vermont in the summer of 2012 we saw Somalis in Burlington. I was shocked and very troubled to see people who clearly do not belong in New England. My dad’s people are from New Hampshire and I fear that these invaders will also go there. That’s one thing we loved about NE–that it’s so white but for how long? Anything good and decent is being destroyed.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            Actually many of these Somali lowlifes in Lewiston, Maine

          • Mergatroyd

            It IS genocide, but directed at one race and one race only: The White Race.

            Keep passing the word about Agenda 21, amazing how few people know of its existence but it will be the end of us Whites and ALL White nations.

          • Ella

            Jesse, is there any desirable place to raise our children in the USA or Europe????? I’m Middle Aged but I’m really scared for my children. We say to have more kids in here but look at our dismal future. This keeps our birth rates LOW as we adjust to societal dysfunctions. No one wants to birth children and then, send them off to war or to have miserable existence. Even in ancient times, birth rates lagged around 0-2 children with impending war and mass inflation. Even when resources become unbearably tight, 2-3 children would be easier to survive than having 5 children. Birth rates signal economic and environmental conditions.

          • Jesse James

            Ella I have three children, all college age now or slightly older and I understand how some people fear for their smaller children. As you know having a child is always giving a hostage to fortune. I know it is not the cool in thing to be on the Alt Right but I am a Christian and I believe it is our duty to have children. My brother and his wife chose not to have kids and have been enjoying spending the extra money on themselves vacationing, home improvements, all the “good life” things that the American middle class have become accustom to. We quarreled about this when it first became evident but I love my brother and we just don’t talk about it anymore. It does really still bother me because I feel like he has abandoned my children by leaving gaps in the watch on our walls where his kids would have stood. Cousins and lots of them were a blessing to me and I am sorry that my kids won’t have as many.

            Is it scary to have children in this age? Absolutely. Is it essential to be brave and still have them? Absolutely. The future belongs to those who show up for it.

          • Ella

            I appreciate your thoughtful response. We have 2 young children and hesitate on the 3rd child. I wish I pushed for three earlier at younger age but am happy with our 2 children. If I ever made a regretful mistake, I would have had more children but we met later in life limiting the time. I smile much when I see Whites with 3 or 4 toddlers in our communities, because it still happens among Christian families. You’re very right about making sacrifices to have children. I find it selfish when couples refuse to have even one child. We do give up much time, energy, and material things for them, so they have a better life. I do miss the cousins too, and family gatherings are very small being the postmodern family. To suggest, you might tell your brother, “you can’t take your money to the grave.”

            Thanks for the tips on the blog / opinion sites. I agree about the Pacific NW or Montana-Idaho States. It’s a matter of finding a job. Our State is a majority-minority State, so it’s not the place ideally to raise family. It is time to leave as we keep applying for employment.

          • MarcB1969

            “So they are deliberately crashing the West”

            Exactly. The real reason for the Civil War was to centralize governmental powers, and that was also the goal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Once you consolidate local governance into Federal power, it’s much easier to merge those nations into structures like the EU and a North American Union, and then roll those entities into a global federation. It’s called “The Great Game” by many technocrats.

            How long can a Constitutional Republic survive in a majority Mestizo country? I don’t give it a 100 years, and neither do “they.”

          • Mergatroyd

            Thanks for the post. Won’t bother with wiki, too much revision, omission, wrong emphasis, etc.

            Here’s another, Agenda 21 for Dummies:

            hwww [ ]youtube [ ] com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

            In a nutshell: “The global cabal of U.N. Agenda 21 is behind global warming, regionalism, zoning, land and water use control, wealth redistribution, weakening and eventual replacement of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, global warming, cap and trade, Smart Grid, Smart Meters, carbon taxes, high gasoline prices, global citizens, IB World Schools, Common Core nationalized education standards, biofuels, Marxist advancement across the globe, food control, water access control via the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST), gun control, health control, the Arab Spring/Winter, unchecked illegal immigration, and they are unstoppable.”

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          In a nutshell, Agenda 21 is the global elite’s plan to murder 90 percent of the world’s people. They want the world’s population to be less than 500 million so they cannot be challenged in their monopoly over everything. They regard the rest of us as little better than rats.

          • Ella

            Zaporizhian, you and I know exactly who will control and reap the wealth benefits under this miserable regime. In the moment, I believe that wealth and comforts have put the Western people at a great disadvantage as most of us do NOT know how to survive off the land (dependent on corporations) or to live in a hostile environment.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Yes, we do. However, their evil will be repaid with nuclear bombs detonating over their heads. There are not just sloshing the poor around the globe for the sake of printing money and slave wages. They are using the non-white and poor hordes as tools of genocide against people of European ancestry because they FEAR us. If anything, Agenda 21 might be just another way of saying the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, which are pestilence, war, famine and death. However, I see a fifth horseman of the apocalypse our enemies have turned loose, and that is apathy.

          • Jesse James

            Agenda 21 is what results from us not taking the hundreds of thousands of left wing flakes in academia and the government seriously.

    • rowingfool

      Jesse says; “Most of these cities don’t have the choice of gentrification..”

      Did you notice how every sentence in the article is structured such that it makes it appear as though all these events simply just happened? The author speaks as though none of these consequences had a deliberate cause. The passive voice is used throughout.

      “a pair of houses that were damaged by fire…” not this; “some degenerate rascals burned two houses.”

      “130 cities…have dissolved themselves…” not this; “solid citizens fled this formerly pleasant neighborhood that had become a predominately black urban hellhole”

      “more than half of the nation’s 20 largest cities in 1950 have lost at least one-third of their populations…” and not this; “whites left in droves seeking security for their children due to the rampant violent criminal behavior of blacks…”

      “Detroit, whose bankruptcy declaration this summer…” and not this; “Detroit, a hopeless economic basket case due to mismanagement and criminal corruption by 50 years of incompetent Democratic Black Rule is flat busted and, eerily echoing the indigent status of individual black families, can’t pay its utility, water and sewer bills.”

      And the crowning achievement in misdirection; “The result of this shrinkage, also called “ungrowth” and “right sizing,” has been compressed tax bases, increased crime and unemployment, tight municipal budgets and abandoned neighborhoods.” Do they really mean to say that all of those things are RESULTS? Are they not the problems themselves? Aren’t crime and unemployment causes? And isn’t unemployment caused in some way by an adult’s being able to read and figure at the fifth grade level? And so on….

      • Joseph

        About the only cause-and-effect situations that these bedwetters believe in are:

        1. Whites cause non-whites to fail in every aspect of life

        2. Guns cause crime
        3. Government causes prosperity

        All else is too “complex” to fathom without further federally-funded studies.

  • CelestiaQuesta

    You can always tell a Neihborhood ready to fall when ever you see blacks or Hispanics move in. That’s the time to sell or move on.
    Within a few years another ghetto will emerge…..

    • NM156

      Tell me about it. Within one year, three homes within a 150 ft. radius of my home have been bought at fire-sale prices by investors and landlords interested in turning a profit from soaring rents in my city. These three homes have been occupied by a Gypsy family with 3 kids, a Mexican family with 5 kids, and a Black and Hispanic couple. I can’t figure out how these renters can afford $1500 rent. The Gypsy family’s house often has Mercedes Benz’s, Range Rovers, and BMWs parked in front. Whatever their stories are, their existence depends on public money one way or another. I wonder whether my neighborhood will survive this latest consequence of the minority mortgage disaster.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Yeah where I use to live the muds have the nicest stuff but no one seems to work, but they seem to own their own house and cars. Their never up in the morning and I cant see the government giving them that much money.

        • Mergatroyd

          The government subsidizes everything for them: housing, EBT cards for food, school meals for the kiddies, utilities like electricity and gas, gas for cars, obama phones, cable TV. Hell, what doesn’t the government subsidize these days?

        • Sick of it

          If they have a number of kids, they may be bringing in $80,000 or more a year in various government benefits. Here in the U.S. anyway.

      • kjh64

        They scam the government or steal or both.

        • Mergatroyd

          While the government scams and steals from US.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Not only do they scam and steal from us, they threaten us at gunpoint continually regardless of our actions.

      • Mergatroyd

        They are using Section 8 if it’s in the United States. The government’s goal is to move these people out of urban centers into White neighborhoods in the suburbs and exurbs. Rents and mortgages go for far higher than that where I live but I am starting to see urban black families, squat-monters Mexicans and other non-White undesirables in the surrounding neighborhoods and in my once-exclusively White supermarket and shopping area, where none existed two or three years ago. I’ve wondered if the whole housing crash was used to turn nice areas into Section 8 ghettos, that’s certainly how it appears where I am.

        You may be paying $1500 for rent but your new neighbors are paying far less than that with a subsidy paid for by you and other producers. It is an evil scam.

        Yeah, it’s “great” that urban disasters are being mowed down and returned to nature, but that’s where urban blacks used to live and now they’re being scattered everywhere to commit crimes, ruin your child’s school and create havoc and mayhem.

        I think the old Cabrini-Green housing project was correct: Corral them in one area and police it so they cannot leave.

        • saxonsun

          I see squatties in well off neighborhoods in Long Island and Muslims too. Just a few yrs. ago, they weren’t there.

        • Sick of it

          The same thing happened in my home town starting in the 2000s. An area where people had virtually never seen a foreigner was suddenly flooded with them.

      • saxonsun

        I see Mexicans with SUV’S all the time here in NYC and I always wonder where they get the money for them.

    • Blue-eyed Devil

      Or barrio

  • D.B. Cooper

    I’m pretty sure some Aye-rabs, or some Chinese will gladly buy up the land, and send the blacks fleeing to the nearest white suburbs.

    • ThomasER916

      That’s the problem. Whites have always been too polite. Either whites chase Negros out without apologies or they leave. There is no in between.

      • MBlanc46

        It’s pretty much an either/or, all right. On the other hand, as my wife points out about the Chicago area, the suburbs that managed to keep the blacks out are largely Mexican now.

  • bigone4u

    Whites create, blacks destroy. The principle applies everywhere on the planet. (Sigh) At least there are pictures showing the beauty, orderliness, and humanity that went into building the historical Detroit, St. Louis, etc. Our ancestors are spinning in their graves, angry with us for allowing blacks to take over and destroy one of the greatest accomplishments of white civilization.

    • ms_anthro

      Our immediate ancestors did this to us. By the time I was born urban decay had been a fact of American life for almost three decades thanks to the corrosive forces wrought by the multicultists in my grandparents’ generation. It’s time to stop blaming ourselves and start righting things. We know what to do. We simply lack the will to do it…for now.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Its just like my mom she says she will be glad when she is dead because she knows whats coming.Thats why I myself am disgusted with fellow whites including myself.

        • IstvanIN

          My father says the same thing.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            My father, who was born in Ukraine, has few good things to say about blacks, given he is a retired geneticist and pediatrician. You would not believe what he had to treat black children for due to their abhorrent dietary and lifestyle habits. He doesn’t like them.

        • Katherine McChesney

          My father was a sane man. He never fell for the scam of White guilt and would not allow a black to set foot on his property. He was very upfront about his knowledge of blacks as being an evil and destructive race of people. He made it very clear to everyone that he believed segregation was superior to integration.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            I would be honored to shake your father’s hand. My father also detested spooks.

      • MBlanc46

        I’m not sure that your grandparents are to blame. World War II had a lot to do with it. So did the mechanization of cotton culture, which made millions of blacks redundant in the South. They migrated North in search of work (no AFDC or Section 8 in those days) and overwhelmed entire neighborhoods. There was a lot of resistance by whites, but sheer force of numbers ran them out. You sure didn’t want to be the last white family on your block for a number of reasons.

        • ms_anthro

          Not my grandparents, no. But there were plenty of weak seeds back then, as now. This has been a gradual process of decay.

          • MBlanc46

            People headed for the suburbs for a lot of reasons. Maybe some people fled too soon, but a lot fought a hard fight into the 1960s and even 1970s. But once a neighborhood started to turn, resistance was futile. But I think that instead of dwelling in the past, we should be thinking about the future. Now that many of those neighborhoods are little but rubble-strewn lots, let’s take them back and rebuild them as white neighborhoods.

          • ms_anthro

            We can agree on that. We’ve lost a lot of ground and it’s time to take it back while we still have the numbers to realistically do it.

          • MBlanc46

            Things aren’t going to get better with time. We need to act soon.

        • NM156

          My mother went to Providence High, class of 1959. The rate of neighborhood change at that time in Chicago, the time of blockbusting and restrictive covenants competing for land, is unbelievable-by the early 1970s, her HS had been sold off by the nuns to the CPS and had an all-black student body.

          • Katherine McChesney

            ‘… sold off by the nuns to a Black religious organization and had an all-black student body.’

            very interesting that.

          • MBlanc46

            I know what you mean. In the early 1950s my great uncle lived on the 43 or 4400 block of South Drexel. I could play alone on the parkway while my mother and grandmother were visiting. Now a white person would be taking his/her life into his/her hands just being on the parkway at noon.

  • If Baltimore is opting for the wrecking ball instead of renovation, it’s probably because the local Bellcurvii have so ruined the houses, even as tough and resilient as these houses were built to be, that renovation isn’t a viable option.

    • Jesse James

      QD I have spent a lot of time at John Hopkins Hospital and it is surrounded by blocks of once very nice brownstone style town houses. In a sane world they would have all been reconstructed and sold for top dollar to the professionals working at the hospital and the University. Instead they are sporadically inhabited and in poor repair because the black population of the area make it fundamentally unsafe – even during the daylight hours. We stayed in a guest house for people staying with people at the hospital and just a few houses down there were burned out buildings. The business and political class invested billions into developing the Inner Harbor and have it heavily policed and still gangs of black “youths” can get away with attaching people in broad daylight in busy areas. Remember the white guy who got assaulted and had his pants pulled down? Savages.

      Now it looks to me like the elites have gotten tired of commuting and want to churn the real estate markets by colluding with the government to lure the black underclass out of the cities into the suburbs with Section 8 and new outer malls to provide them with employment and diversion. They are already buying up the blighted inner city areas and I think they intend to bring expensive upper middle class housing back to the center of things. The big losers of course will be the regular white middle class who are seeing their homes lose value and their “safe” schools destroyed by diversity. The rich don’t give a damn, their kids don’t go to public schools. So white flight in the future will be from the ex-burbs back into the city center. We really shouldn’t forget how much money has been made by the elites out of this constant churning of real estate. I used to just damn the radical left for creating the social conditions that led to white flight but now I see the business class fully complicit with creating conditions that allow them to constantly sheer the middle class sheep desperate to find a safe place to raise their kids.

      • Seems to be that one of Baltimore’s problems is that it never had any hoosiers.

        Sorry, it’s a St. Louis thing; you may not understand.

        • Jesse James

          Nope over my head I thought Hoosiers were from Indiana. Ahh but through the wonders of the internet I can make a guess, “white trash of the worst sort”? The worst sort of course meaning those who will defend their own patch with fist and pistols. The sort of white folk the negroes know not to mess with??? I do so hate that term white trash though my friend, down here we call them kin. Though it didn’t save East St. Louis or a couple of malls either if my memory serves. I had a couple of surgeries at Barnes Jewish and Barnes Methodist Hospitals a number of years ago so St. Louis like Baltimore is a little familiar to me.

        • MBlanc46

          Ah come on, please explain.

          • Hoosier is St. Louis parlance for low class white. How it developed a totally different meaning locally from the Indiana definition is a mystery that may never be solved.

            The reason I bring this up in an urban gentrification thread is because St. Louis hoosiers were accidentally instrumental in helping gentrification. Here’s why:

            countenance [dot] wordpress [dot] com/2013/10/06/thank-a-hoosier/

          • Jesse James

            Good bit from Countenance Blog, thanks QD. Here is a quote to solve the mystery:

            “The city neighborhoods that are gentrifying/gentrified are the ones that never fell to the black undertow, because the undertow was too scared of hoosiers to plant themselves in those areas. Hoosier culture dying out and gentrification culture being born happened at just about the same time, which means there were a fair number of black-free ex-hoosier neighborhoods there for the yuppie taking.
            Should the yuppies somehow be able to wage demographic war against the undertow in the future and drive them out to re-whiten those areas, they’ll still have hoosiers to thank, because hoosiers gave yuppies the starting points, the base camps, from whence to launch further invasions.”

          • Pelagian

            I am not sure about your hoosier thesis, as provocative as it is. How do you explain Montgomery/Hyde Park? A strong Hoosier outpost that wasn’t very good at keeping blacks at bay, and has been losing ground. Ever since the 1960s. And is close to being one of the biggest war zones in St. Louis.

          • True, it didn’t work everywhere. But Hoosier culture was never strong on the north side outside of a few patches. Even on the south side, where it was near ubiquitous, not every hoosier neighborhood was able to resist the spreading undertow.

          • Joseph

            Another fun-fact I recall from St. Louis is that many of the folks there-at least the ones I knew, pronounce the “s” in “Illinois”

          • By my estimation, a quarter of natives do so.

          • MBlanc46

            Thanks. And I’ll also thank a hoosier.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        That is a very accurate observation, one that more than one man I know has also made. This is part of those who cannot be named modus operandi, which is to break our ties to our land, to our heritage and each other. To render us all strangers to one another. They indeed couldn’t care less about the pain they are causing us. Indeed they seek to make our homes and property worthless while escalating the price of housing farther and farther beyond the means of former middle class whites.

      • sbuffalonative

        The real estate market exists as it does because it generates wealth for banks and lenders. If people stayed where they are banks and lenders couldn’t make money from transaction fees and closing costs. They have to keep it fluid to keep the money rolling in. Overt blockbusting my be less obvious but it’s still being used to make whites who have the means to upgrade to relocate to better neighborhoods.

        • Pelagian

          Amen, brutha-man. in Europe, people still live in the same house their ancestors lived in for centuries. Not here. Why? See http://www [dot] culturewars [dot] com/Reviews/SlaughterReviews.html

          • Sick of it

            We were convinced to sell family farmland and rely on other people, now megacorps, to grow food for us. Not a very bright idea in the long term.

      • Ella

        Our family faces a dilemma. We might move further out and have ridiculous commute(s) into work. My husband and I discuss about moving 5o miles away from his job to have a desirable White community, but he’ll lose time with family commuting and add in extra workdays to cover mortgage. Is it worth the extra daily hassles or stay in transitioning suburban neighborhood? Schools are now 1/3 to 1/2 nonwhite, not good! I hate our choices and stress of being “stuck.” SOB banks win as we can’t pay off the mortgage faster and carry more debt..

        • Jesse James

          Ella when my kids were small I commuted to South Atlanta, Clayton County, from suburban Rockdale County every day for eight years. On a good day that took an hour and fifteen minutes each way but often it was more like an hour and a half on top of already long work days. So I figure I lost about three hours a day on the road. It also meant I could never swing by the school during the day to see a school presentation or just have lunch with the kids. When my oldest son was in college during an argument once he threw it in my face that I wasn’t there enough when they were little and didn’t support his school and PTA enough. I replied that I was gone so he wouldn’t get stomped and humiliated every day by feral blacks – which would have happened for sure if had to go to school in Clayton County. To make matters worse during those critical eight years when my kids were still in the K-12 school systems Rockdale County got steamrollered by diversity thanks to black flight, illegals, and the building of several plaza malls and tons of apartments. Suddenly our 80+ % white school system was hiring a black from Clayton County as the superintendent with the stated goal of preparing our schools for the transition to greater diversity. Fortunately my youngest is now out of High School, so we missed the worst of the change. Personally if I had it to do over again I think it would be better to make half the salary but be able to live and work in a small town with at least 85% white – wherever you have to go to make that happen it would be worth it. It was not just 15 hours a week that I missed being on the road, it was the 15 critical hours of the week between when my kids got home and went to bed. Often they were asleep when they were younger before I got home – I was working 10-12 hour days fairly often back then. The kicker is that probably the majority of working people in this country are in a similar situation. No easy answers, but I think it is better to go with less money and more quality family time away from minorities if you can figure out how to pull that off.

          • dean53

            Wow. I feel for you. That is the predicament of millions of white Americans. You sacrificed so much for your kids in order to protect them from hostile, hateful blacks (whom you were forced to support!) — and now your son, the object of your devotion, is clueless of the hell you went through on his behalf. Your son lost his father’s presence throughout childhood and you lost the love, affection and memories the two of you should have shared — but for the cruel liberal agenda of the involuntary integration of lambs with lions.

          • Jesse James

            We have good relations still, talking frankly only helps. Yet the point you make is very valid, how much damage do whites inflict on their own families as we contort ourselves into a world where our employers, police, schools and government treat up as down and good as bad. This moral inversion and the way whites are silenced and intimidated into playing out this sick PC morality play that has little or no basis in the reality of our experience is destroying us. It is time for us to start stating facts, I was caused to lose a great deal of valuable and irreplaceable family time not because of racism or bigotry on my part but because blacks in Clayton County schools are unable to maintain white standards of behavior. The solution for this is segregation, it is clearly better for all races and yet the powers that be continue to double down on their massive investment in the fantasy ideology of equality.

          • Brian

            I live in ATL and this resonates with me. It’s too bad your son didn’t see the big picture of what you were doing and why. We’re looking at moving up to north GA, some small town like Calhoun or Blairsville or Ellijay in the next couple years– harder to find a job but we need to get away from the undertow.

    • Same in Chicago. When the blacks get kicked out, they steal or destroy everything possible. I looked at houses online that only had a bathtub in the bathroom, no toilet, no sick.

      • Sick of it

        They’ve been known to do the same in my part of the country as well.

      • Pelagian

        why shouldn’t they? Santa Claus made the house.

  • MekongDelta69

    But why are people fleeing these cities?

    Easiest Reply EVER:
    b-l-a-c-k-s

    We’re done…

    • Pelagian

      I would say that the journalists are too stupid to know the answer. But in reality they want everybody to answer in unison,”r-a-c-i-s-m”.

  • Jefferson

    The television show “The Wire” for example certainly does not help paint Baltimore as an extremely desirable city to live in.

    I am surprised a Hollywood show would portray a predominantly Black city like Baltimore in such a negative light. That is not very politically correct of them to do.

    • So CAL Snowman

      It was on HBO and had a fairly small viewing audience compared to that of say “the Sopranos” or “Breaking Bad.” I believe that HBO actually produced the show at a loss, but they were that committed to it. They probably made their money back on the DVD sales though.

      • JDInSanD

        And in the case of both the Sopranos and Breaking Bad we are presented with characters who are virtually non-existent in real life. But it’s ok because they’re just making whites look like immoral, violent savages who will do anything, including murdering innocent people, for money. On the other hand HBO could make a very accurate series about black or hispanic gangs or drug dealers. Or could they?

        • NM156

          Ha. You’re wrong about the Sopranos not having real-life counterparts however. In fact, after recently running into one of my old-neighborhood friends from my Chicago neighborhood, I learned that a Soprano on our block, a school mate, who was sentenced to 26 years for a lesser degree of murder in the mid-’80s, was sprung after 15, in the early 2000s. At the time of his arrest, his next-door neighbor was found dead in the trunk of his car at O’Hare. He was skimming off the top. We watched the cops pull the body from the trunk on local news.

    • Years ago, I watched a “reality” TV show about a hospital in Baltimore.
      I remember black doctors & nurses, but no White faces.

      During this episode, 10 patients – all ethnicities – entered the hospital (stabbings, shootings, car wrecks, etc).

      Everyone perished.

      The black staff acted like they didn’t have a care in the world.
      I believe no one was working; they were there to get paid.
      Very frightening stuff.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        I’m 48 years old and have never seen a black doctor in my entire life.

        • Katherine McChesney

          I have. One at Centennial Medical Center in Nashville. Also Meharry Medical Center where a black doctor I was acquainted with died of septicemia. It’s notorious for being hygenically ‘challenged’
          Movies are rife with black portraying brilliant doctors. It disgusts me to no end.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            They usually star groids such as this:
            a) Morgan Freeman
            b) Denzel Washington
            c) Will Smith

  • JohnEngelman

    One is told that in real estate three things are important: location, location, location.

    I maintain that three other things are important: neighbors, neighbors, neighbors.

    In the high black, and consequently high crime city that I live in are many areas that remind me of Georgetown in Washington, DC. The difference is the quality of the neighbors.

    • Jefferson

      Among the best prime real estate areas in The United States, none of them are located in neighborhoods where Obama’s sons are the dominant racial demographic.

      • The South Shore of Chicago should be prime.

        • MBlanc46

          Yeah, you betcha. I’d say everything on the lake front from the museum campus through South Shore. We built it. It’s ours. We should take it back.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Its like my old boss would say, what makes a good neighborhood? Its the people. Mud people hate when you say that BTW.

  • Spartacus

    ….

    • zek

      Interesting code word for “black” there.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Controlled by the tribe, there fixed it.

    • DaveMed

      Hilarious. Saved.

  • black free zone

    • saxonsun

      Same in Gettysburg or any national park.

  • Luca

    It is easier to pick the low hanging fruit than it is to cultivate an orchard.

    Whites cultivate the orchard. Blacks pluck the fruit until it is all gone and then cry racism and beg for handouts.

    It has been this way since Whites and blacks first interacted and shall remain this way until someone notices the insanity of continuing with Liberal policies that enable this behavior.

    • Alexandra1973

      How many years–centuries–did blacks survive in Africa, before encountering other races?

      I’m pretty sure they can get along just fine without us.

      • MBlanc46

        But now they want the benefits of civilization. And they can’t have those without us.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Interesting how they want the BENEFITS of civilization but they destroy civilization.

          • MBlanc46

            They just don’t have the IQ, long-term thinking, or impulse-control to create, or even to maintain civilization. The best of them can participate in modern urban society with supervision, but the worst of them are just thieves, arsonists, and looters.

          • Brian

            Zuma, head of South Africa:

          • MBlanc46

            Which is why white South Africans ought to be finalizing their exit strategy.

      • IstvanIN

        They can not survive on their own outside of the jungle. We can survive the harshest climates. Even other so-called primitive societies, such as Mongolia or the Arabs Bedouins, possess a level of technology and planning far beyond that of the average Negro.

      • Strider73

        True, but only at the hunter-gatherer stage of existence and only at a far lower population level.

  • The Final Solution

    If we gave blacks an entire planet of their own and came back in 10,000 years there would be not a day of progress….

    • IstvanIN

      You would probably find Mars, just barren waste land as far as the eye could see.

  • hastings88

    Just scoop out the black people, and keep the nice old houses. Much less expensive.

    • IstvanIN

      The old houses can be restored, the blacks can not.

      • Pelagian

        They need a fix-it program on PBS, ‘This Old N——-‘. (-:

        • Kenner

          HaHaha–that’s next, knowing PBS!

      • Can an orc become an elf again?

        • Strider73

          Orcs belong in Mordor. Send them back there.

    • Brian

      Don’t we still have some neutron bombs in storage that could do this?

  • Randall Ward

    The same city pols that destroyed the city, now are going to save it. Do nothing, is the the best policy for any city; no zoning, no restrictions on what can be built. The city will be as healthy as it can be under this non-planing way. Thousands of individuals will make the right decisions to make the city livable.

  • James Bro

    It’s so simple to figure out. Show me one town, city, county, state or nation dominated by blacks and governed by blacks that is (even) moderately successful.

  • Pelagian

    (Read): “Because despite the well-publicized embrace by young professionals of once-struggling city centers in New York [on an island], [non-black] Seattle and [non-black] Los Angeles, for many [historically black] cities [like ‘Baltimore, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Buffalo’] urban planning has often become a form of creative destruction .”

    Whenever a journalist uses the subordinator “despite … for” its usually, in my experience, a color thing.

    • Garrett Brown

      You would be 100% correct.

  • Ella

    You can’t feed a population of 320 million plus by dumping more concrete on the land. It would be nice to have open growing spaces and less mass highways and congestion. Sadly, I hate to see any historic buildings crumble and end up destroyed. There goes the past, art forms replaced by gaudy highrises and townhomes in some centers as part of urban development.

    • MartelC

      unfortuantely this is ‘win win’ for big government and corrupt developers. Massive central planning, big simple projects.

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    It’s simple. Whites are BUILDERS. Blacks are DESTROYERS.

  • Spartacus

    But who brings in the disease ?

    • Sick of it

      People who were not allowed to settle in Japan and buy everything up.

  • Mergatroyd

    The Hispanics have a better chance of keeping the blacks out. We are evil Whites and any whiff of discrimination against blacks will have every government agency down your throat in two seconds to destroy your life, while Mexicans are left alone. Yeah, lucky them, they can be as ethnocentric as they want and it’s sanctioned and encouraged. Same for blacks, Jews, Asians, etc. Any but White.

  • Ella

    Scandinavian countries just started later in the 70’s, and they’re working on the refugee resettlement thing to slowly “catch up” with US and Britain. Give it time and it will. Have you been to Malamo, Sweden yet or just check out Youtube with their burning high schools.

  • MBlanc46

    I’ll certainly look at your post. I’m interested in local histories of the area. My mother worked in Berwyn in about 1950. Yuppies are now starting to move into it, although most of the old Czech restaurants on 22nd Street are now Mexican.

  • pcmustgo

    This while millions of Americans are homeless. Just seems like such a waste.

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    Maine and Vermont are the Whitest states in the nation. The social engineers (i.e. Jews) plan on changing that by importing hordes of Muslim darkies from Mogadishu. Watch the movie Blackhawk Down and this is the filth I’m referring to.

  • ricpic

    The way the Times writes it’s all so passive. Things just fall apart. No cause. No agent of destruction. When we all know the black migration to the cities of the Northeast and Midwest is the cause. The one and only cause. Aside from the fact that they are beyond belief stupid and indolent they are maniacally prone to crime and violence. The perfect formula for total destruction. And total destruction it has been.

    • Blue-eyed Devil

      I was born in Newark, New Jersey in 1965. The jigs rioted there in July 1967 and torched half the city. Newark was once a great city but they made it a toilet decades ago.

  • Bobbala

    …and Japan??

  • Big Leo

    They are indeed fleeing the cities. That’s why a number of rural recreational housing developments in the Poconos are now dominated by gangs.

  • mike

    By the time blacks are through with any building it is pretty much trash so it is more economical to raze it. You can bet it will not have recieved any repairs or maintenance in years. And this is equally true even if it was a rental because landlords renting to blacks know repairs and maintenance amounts to throwing good money after bad.