Paul Ryan Working Behind the Scenes to Push Comprehensive Immigration Legislation

Paul Kane and Ed O'Keefe, Washington Post, July 10, 2013

Two weeks after the end of his failed vice-presidential bid, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) was already thinking ahead to another big fight: immigration reform. And he was thinking about it in a bipartisan way.

Ryan ran into his old friend, Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez (D-Ill.), and urged him to restart his effort to get a comprehensive immigration package through Congress. Ryan’s arguments stemmed from a religious and economic foundation, not from the huge political liability the issue had become for the Republican Party during the 2012 presidential campaign.

“You’re a Catholic; I’m a Catholic; we cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans exploited in America,” Ryan told Gutierrez, according to the Democrat’s recollection of the November discussion.

Given those sentiments, and the drubbing the GOP ticket took among Latino voters, supporters of an immigration overhaul expected Ryan to emerge as the House’s most prominent public voice on the issue.

Instead, as the issue has grown more contentious with the recent passage of a sprawling 1,200-page Senate bill, Ryan has worked quietly behind the scenes, declining to become the public face of the issue and leaving the effort without any prominent sponsors among the House GOP leadership.

The 43-year-old congressman, whose own political future remains bright enough that some regard him as a 2016 presidential contender, has been using that stature to prod Gutierrez’s bipartisan group of seven House members to keep trying for a still-elusive compromise.

He has held private meetings with members of the group and has reached out to other Republicans to try to find support for a comprehensive plan that would include a path to citizenship for the estimated 11 million immigrants already in the country illegally.

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{snip} Dan Senor, who was Ryan’s top policy aide in the 2012 campaign, said Ryan will make an aggressive case for a bipartisan bill in his own way.

“His approach is not to do a million TV interviews, but to thoughtfully engage his colleagues, usually behind closed doors. So look for Ryan to make a full-throated, optimistic, pro-growth case for immigration reform; not through a big media rollout, but by talking directly to his colleagues,” Senor, who remains close to Ryan, said Wednesday.

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Complicating the legislation’s passage is that it has become something of a political orphan in the House, lacking support from any high-profile lawmaker. Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) have taken a hands-off approach, suggesting that a public embrace of policy specifics would harm the process.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, is moving piecemeal bills dealing with border security and worker visas while opposing citizenship for immigrants here illegally. The bipartisan group of seven House members, led by Gutierrez and three rank-and-file Republicans, has been unable to reach a deal that they could push as a group.

That leaves Ryan, a longtime supporter of immigration legislation dating back to his 2006 support for Gutierrez’s bill that included citizenship rights, as the most prominent House backer of a comprehensive deal. His advisers say he is a “bridge builder” on the issue, hoping to reassure both proponents such as Gutierrez and staunch conservatives who have come to worship Ryan’s acumen on deficits.

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  • Erasmus

    His Catholic identity hasn’t squat to do with it. It’s his love for cheap labor and big profits.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Correct. The Catholic Church has always told its members that they must not break the law, something illegal aliens do every day.

      And if Ryan feels amnesty is such a great idea why doesn’t he embrace it PUBLICLY intead of the behind-the-scenes sneaking around?

      • guest

        Then why is it most bishops here in America give them sanctuary? Now please tell me that isn’t illegal to harbor ILLEGALS and then shove them off on the American taxpayer!

        • The__Bobster

          The RC church gets about $1.6 billion every year from the federal government refugee racket. They fill their pews while filling their pockets.

          • Paleoconn

            Exactly, let’s not blame true blue Catholics, it’s their church and political elites who are responsible.

        • Oil Can Harry

          I can’t deny there are liberal US bishops who support amnesty.

          However, Ryan is still wrong. The Catechism of the Church opposes lawbreaking; that’s something the illegal invaders ignore.

          • Allan477

            But if they didn’t have the illegals (Polish as well as Hispanic), they wouldn’t have janitors for their Churches or housekeepers for their rectories.

          • Bossman

            Laws flow from Justice and Justice can always be tempered by Mercy.

          • Erasmus

            Sorry. No sale.

            Amnestying tens of millions of invaders isn’t mercy or compassion. It’s surrender. It’s selling out our children and grandchildren.

            That I can never.

          • OlderWoman

            Catholics and lawbreaking.

            You mean like pedophilia and hiding the pedophiles from law enforcement. Now Catholic Charities pawn their immigrant members off on tax-payers.

        • gemjunior

          In the U.S., The American College of Bishops are a bunch of apostate, homosexual, disobedient bishops who are out of themselves only and their own issues and causes take precedence over anything even their “vow of obedience”. Catholicism in America since Vatican II has been a purge of all good bishops and priests and only gays are accepted and promoted. Centuries old, revered seminaries now have names like “Notre Flame” and “The Pink Palace”. They deliberately laugh in the face at Rome and tell the Vatican to stay out of their business. The only use they have for these Latins and South Americans is headcounts and $$$. People like this lowlife are in bed with them to use them, just like any sleazy politician.

      • Sick of it

        Either way, with his support for amnesty coming out, he can hangup any notion of being President, Vice President, or Speaker of the House.

        • KittyAmerica

          He could still be the Republican nominee though –and lose — just like McCain.

          • Sick of it

            Out of the 80% or so of Americans who wanted to seal the borders, I’m guessing well over 90% of Republicans wanted the same. See no one really knew Paul Ryan before, so they may have considered him, but pro-immigration is a death nail in the Republican primary, at least on a national level. If any numbers show otherwise, they will have been obviously rigged.

    • MawellAxel

      Just put him on the list of people that will be dealt with when the revolution comes. Him and his whole family. Doesn’t matter what they look like, a traitor is a traitor and should pay more than the ultimate price.

    • MawellAxel

      He is a traitor, pure and simple, he will be remembered as that when the time comes

  • EmpireofLies

    Paul Ryan isnt acting out of Catholic convictions. He is acting from the kneejerk promptings of the fake religion known as Liberalism which is a demonic parody of Christianity. That and of course a craven obedience to his Big Business masters at the Republican National Committee.

    • Sick of it

      Social Justice is its own religion.

      • OlderWoman

        Courtesy of the Jesuits.

        • Sick of it

          How could you say such a thing about the noble practitioners of kabbalistic magic. /sarc

  • Hail to the (not) Vice-Chief…who couldn’t even carry his own Congressional district for Romney.

  • His Catholic identity is central to his position. What of his white identity?

    I think he gave up his White identity when started drilling for oil.

    • Cville

      Never held a private sector job, could never support him.

      • “Oil drilling” means something slightly different in this context.

      • Wethepeople

        The “oil drilling” referred to is Mud Sharking, race traitorous miscegenation. Just a pawn in the game, showing its not okay to be white. You must breed with a non-white or allow yourself to be sacrificed for the greater good.

        The only good white person is a dead white person, or a brown d*** in her.

        The tribe and the Bolsheviks are insidious, but the red flags WILL burn.

    • Sick of it

      Ryan, Boehner’s daughter…starting to see a pattern here. As I’ve said before – Controlled Opposition.

  • bigone4u

    As a former academic, the word “exploited” sets my BS detector beeping like crazy. The claim that illegals are “exploited” is wrong and I don’t let ANYBODY get away with it. If they were exploited, they’re free to leave, but they call sister Juanita and brother-in-law Jose to tell them to join them in the land of milk and honey. WE are exploited by their very presence in OUR country. Screw them and screw Paul Ryan and his cohorts.

    • Of course illegals are exploited. That’s why they’re allowed in here, for the EL CHEAPO labor lobby to exploit them.

      • bigone4u

        Respectfully disagree with that point of view. They voluntarily cut the legs out from our wages by working for less. Exploitation in my book has an element of coercision. The word “exploitation” was invented by Marxists and so has whites oppressing the poor Mexicans when it’s used. If Messicans were oppressed by us whites they wouldn’t be coming here in droves.

  • The__Bobster

    I started distrusting him when it was revealed that he used to be an oil-driller. My distrust was reinforced when he didn’t object to being used in the lying Big Zuck commercials.

  • The__Bobster

    Ryan ran into his old friend, Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez (D-Ill.)….
    __________

    With amigos like that, who needs enemies? I hear Ryan will propose a KIDS act, his version of the DREAM Act.

    • Erasmus

      You know a person’s character by the company he keeps. (Remember that Juan McCain likes to hang out with Chuck Schumer.) If Gutiérrez is Ryan’s friend, we certainly don’t want him near the Oval Office.

  • WR_the_realist

    Yet another worthless Republican.

  • Jefferson

    Paul Ryan loves vibrant diversity and amnesty so much, than he should be perfectly okay with Section 8 Squat Monsters who speak little to no English, moving next door to him.

  • KittyAmerica

    Ryan meanwhile keeps his family protected in the nice white town of Janesville, Wisconsin .

    • Janesville always makes me think of Starnesville which is funny since Paul Ryan is no generator, he is a destructor.

      Starnesville was the fictional town in Wisconsin in Atlas Shrugged where Dagny and Reardon found the generator that produced power from static electricity.

      • Wethepeople

        Good book.

  • IKantunderstand

    I’m sorry, but being a Christian, has NOTHING to do with being for amnesty. The true definition of being a Christian is very simple: You accept Jesus Christ as your Savior. Please, nowhere in the Bible does it say: “You must accept every person who crosses your boundaries, refuses to obey your laws, pays no taxes to Caesar, refuses to learn your language, and actively advocates your demise.” This amnesty crap is another battle in the war to rid not only the United(for now) States of America, but all White countries, of their White inhabitants. So far, they are winning. Come on! Fight back! Just please write “White Power”, somewhere, anywhere. We can start a movement with just that. Do it.

    • Bossman

      That is because you don’t know much about Christianity. Christianity is mostly about Justice and Mercy. Showing kindness to the stranger, to the itinerant, to the alien is a cornerstone of Christian teachings.

      • mobilebay

        Even those who break the law time after time?

      • Wethepeople

        So much mercy:

        Genesis 49:8
        New International Version (NIV)
        8 “Judah,[a] your brothers will praise you;
        your hand will be on the neck of your enemies;
        your father’s sons will bow down to you.
        Exodus 23:27
        New International Version (NIV)
        27 “I will send my terror ahead of you and throw into confusion every nation you encounter. I will make all your enemies turn their backs and run.
        Leviticus 26:7
        New International Version (NIV)
        7 You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the sword before you.
        Numbers 35:26
        26 “‘But if the accused ever goes outside the limits of the city of refuge to which they fled 27 and the avenger of blood finds them outside the city, the avenger of blood may kill the accused without being guilty of murder. 28 The accused must stay in the city of refuge until the death of the high priest; only after the death of the high priest may they return to their own property.
        Deuteronomy 28:53
        New International Version (NIV)
        53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you.

        • MBlanc46

          You seem to be citing all Jewish scripture, not New Testament.

          • Wethepeople

            I am, and I understand these aren’t Christian specific, however they were accepted into the Christian bible, and could have been left out as many other books were. Therefore, I think it displays that at least at one time, ‘God’ promoted a lack of mercy towards ones enemies. Which is a sentiment I thoroughly concur with.

          • MBlanc46

            That’s the Old Testament god, all right. But with Jesus, you get a lot of “the law says….., but I say unto you….” It’s the new covenant.

        • WR_the_realist

          The Bible is a big fat book and you can prove just about anything you want simply by quoting from the relevant section.

      • MawellAxel

        no, it is not, it is the feminized, hippie version of christianity that was thrust upon us by the tribe.

      • David Ashton

        Jesus said the first commandment was love of God, who authored the commandments, and second love of your neighbour, i.e.your ethnic compatriot. Kindness to a stranger, visitor or traveler is not the same as letting aliens occupy, overrun and control your own homeland, especially if they are anti-christian (like Muslims). Paul said the boundaries of the habitations of ethnic groups were divinely determined.

        Traditionally the Catholic Church upheld patriotism as a civic virtue.

        • Bossman

          You’ve a very shallow understanding of Judeo-Christianity.

      • OlderWoman

        “Showing kindness to the stranger, to the itinerant, to the alien is a cornerstone of Christian teachings.”

        Where’s your proof? Cite book, chapter and verses in the Bible.

        Bet you can’t.

        • Bossman

          Oh yes I can. Here’s one: You shall not wrong or oppress an alien, for you were once aliens yourselves in the land of Egypt. (EXODUS 22:20). Cursed be anyone who deprives the alien, the orphan and the widow of Justice (Deuteronomy 27:19). There are over 40 such statements in the Bible. Go do the homework.

          • IstvanIN

            Jewish bible or New Testament, we can only live according to one.

      • MBlanc46

        You seem to be focusing on the religion of Jesus rather than the religion about Jesus, which is essence of Christianity.

      • Rhialto

        The Bible proscribes the abuse of strangers ie murder, robbery, enslavement, etc. There is no discussion of immigration, because when the Bible was written immigration did not exist, as it does today. There were migrations of people; often followed by brutal struggles for territory.

        There were situations where Israelites were allowed to settle or resettle, Egypt and Judea. In these situations, the Bible praised the rulers for their good works; there was no mention of the rulers being obligated permit immigration.

  • Dave4088

    Christian leaders are no friend of the white race. I hope white people realize this before it’s too late.

  • MBlanc46

    His Catholic identity. And his identity as a flunky for the corporate elite.

  • Xerxes22

    All Protestant demoninations support the illegal invasion including the so called conservative ones. I don’t know of single one that is opposed to it.

    • The__Bobster

      Their leaders do; their parishioners do not.

      • MawellAxel

        Their leaders DON’T! This was a false story that Sorros put out there. When contacted about their supposedly public statements in support of amnesty all of the protestant ministers said they never made such statements. this is once again, the liberal, jewish, bolshevik playbook of using false stories to create a false idea of a widespread sentiment to intimidate people into going along with the crowd. The crowd is squarely against amnesty. The protestant leaders are also squarely against it. To put out a story that the leaders of one’s social groups hold a certain position that is contrary is meant to intimidate and demoralize. IT IS FALSE!!!

      • WR_the_realist

        Precisely. On this matter the relationship of parishioners to their preachers and priests is precisely the same as the relationship of Republican voters to the scum they elected to congress. Look at all the people who were dumb enough to vote for Juan McCain and Lindsay Grahamnesty who are now protesting their votes on the immigration bill. Even though those two voted exactly the same way on the 2007 amnesty bill.

      • gemjunior

        I don’t know even one Catholic Church member from my own parish or any of the 5 surrounding ones who actually approves of mass immigration from Latin America or the third world. They are all wondering why their “leaders” have turned on them yet still expect loyalty. Eventually these treasonous turncoats will find they have no loyalty and no parishioners. I don’t know about the Protestant churches but I have a feeling they are no different. In the end it will all come down to whiteness – to race.
        Many Catholics follow a completely underground church now headed by men they know are true. It’s composed of Latin masses and alter boys, not girls. Communion is given on the tongue, not the hand, on the knees at the alter, no on line. It’s as if Vatican II never existed. These churches are not concerned with feminism, so there is no talk about women priests. These churches are demonized as “SSPX extremists” and “Opus Dei” Catholics who beat the flesh off themselves with a cat o’ nine tails… the last thing they want is a return to traditional Catholicim.

    • Sick of it

      The Southern Baptist Convention. Or almost every church therein.

  • Pelagian

    Catholic teaching has always upheld the right of states to control egress and ingress, hence immigration. There hasnever been any dispute that a ruler can, and MUST for the sake of good order, detain immigrants at the border and not let “just anyone” in to a country.

    There has also been great respect for the self-determination of nationalities within Catholicism, including, by extension whites as a sort of “geater nationality”. And as a decidedly non-Utopian, non-millenarian religion (cf. Puritanism, most protestantism) there was certainly no edict of the Church saying that black and white, or brown and white, had to “integrate”, spatially or otherwise. (Intermarriage however was encouraged for the sake of religion in the settlement of the New World. Catholics do believe in salvation for peoples of all races). But in normal circumstances, and outside of grave reasons, one marries within one’s own race.

    All the above were the teachings of the Catholic church BEFORE Vatican II. *After* Vatican II … it’s anyone’s guess, but … not so much.

  • JohnEngelman

    Paul Ryan is more motivated by the writings of Ayn Rand than by the Bible. He is working to make rich whites richer.

    • No, regardless of the BS that flows from his mouth,he is not motivated by the writings of Ayn Rand. Ayn Rand, even though an immigrant herself, would never advocate such policies. Paul Ryan is nothing but a RINO POS.

      • Bossman

        She believed in freedom. She did not believe in too much state control so therefore she would have no choice but to support a pathway to legalization for the unauthorized immigrants. Ayn Rand was an illegal immigrant for a while herself.

        • MawellAxel

          there is no logical progression in your statement. “Too much state control”—enforcing borders is not “too much state control”, there is nothing excessive about it at all therefore your conclusion is invalid. She was against the achievers being looted by the non achievers. She would have been against amnesty as that is exactly what is happening with amnesty. Those who did not do a thing to build this country are coming here to pick it apart, to live off the labor of all of us. Sorry, your statement is a big fail and shows a deficit in your reasoning abilities.

          • Bossman

            Ayn Rand was a libertarian. She would not have approved deportation of immigrants seeking a better life.

          • WR_the_realist

            Ayn Rand belonged to her own self made philosophical school, Objectivism, which, frankly, never struck me as terribly objective. She did have disputes with libertarians. I have no idea at all what her position on illegal immigration was, and everybody here is just making assumptions.

        • David Ashton

          I have read most of Rand’s writings and two biographies, and with respect I beg to doubt that she would have welcomed her posthumous “followers” in supporting open-door immigration; she was affirmative of “rational patriotism” and opposed invasion by politically hostile people as well as uncivilized spongers. Her commitment to western, especially American, civilization would have trumped any welcome to third-world immigrants other than the most compatible and productive, but since her death, this is “academic”.

    • OlderWoman

      First and foremost, Paul Ryan is a Catholic. It trumps all else.

  • Erasmus

    Catholicism from Mexico is something truly strange. I will not attend a church over-run by Mexicans. If I want to live in a 3rd world country, I’ll move to Latin America, India or Africa.

  • Erasmus

    Ryan working behind the scenes? Does this means American should grab its ankles and bend over because here it comes again?

  • Bossman

    As someone who is interested in the history of religion, can you tell me exactly where St. Paul wrote that he did that.

  • mobilebay

    If Ryan claims to be friends with Luis Gutierrez, there’s no hope for him. Gutierrez is the absolute worse. He is a traitor to this country and in no way represents the American people.

    • IstvanIN

      Being friends with people who believe in either physically or politically destroying your own people is sick and demented.

  • Paleoconn

    If the bitter beer faced Ryan (credit to Jim Goad for that) is considered a conservative, we are indeed doomed. There isn’t a spending program, be it TARP, auto bailouts, endless wars as proxy to Israel, etc that this bozo doesn’t vote in favor of.

    He isn’t the only Catholic traitor, Ted DUI Kennedy and Joe BFG Biden beat him to the punch. But these are exceptions, as their Catholicism has nothing to do with it. Power and money are the reasons. These aren’t real Christians. Chuck Baldwin has a thing or two to say about this.

  • PouponMarks

    He’s reached the limits of his usefulness and abilities. He needs to remain under direction his entire professional political career-which is all he knows.

  • MBlanc46

    There’s what the probable outcomes of his actions are. And there’s what his intentions are. His intentions are to make rich people richer. Doing that might well lead to the outcomes that you suggest. But I doubt very much that those outcomes are his goal. He would probably deny that those will be the outcomes.

  • lostone1413

    I’ve always said both parties work for the same people. They are just different sides of the same coin

  • OlderWoman

    “You’re a Catholic; I’m a Catholic”

    What on earth does that mean? America has been a Protestant country. This immigration problem means immigrant Catholics will out number Protestants. This is a Jesuit plot to destroy Protestantism in America. It’s more of the counter-reformation.

    • David Ashton

      Please document the sources of your persistent belief in modern conspiracy by the Society of Jesus.

      • Bardon Kaldian

        No, leave her in her world …

    • newscomments70

      Most mainstream religious organizations are have the same agenda. The “plot” to destroy western nations with third world immigration is universal in secular and non-secular organizations. The Lutheran Church brought Somalis here. The United Church of Christ looks like a gay pride march in San Francisco. The Baptist church is dominated by blacks. The Catholic Church supports amnesty in the US and Muslim immigration in Europe. The Catholic Church is against gay marriage, but white genocide is just wonderful. They ALL support amnesty.

  • Sick of it

    Like the Episcopalians. Never found a sinner they disagreed with.

  • MBlanc46

    “But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do
    good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use
    you, and persecute you.” Matthew 5:44.

  • Bardon Kaldian

    Opportunistic jock, oil driller Ryan has show his brilliancy again: just because they’re Catholics (most of them), Hispanics will vote for GOP out of gratitude. Whatta brain this Ryan, I’m speechless ….

  • Jackryanvb

    What’s the difference between traitorous “liberals” and traitorous “libertarians” like Paul Ryan or Ron Paul?

    On the live or mostly die issue of immigration – no difference.

    Hope idiot, traitorous Libertarians suffer a terrible cruel death than burn in Hell in the after life.

    • Funny, I haven’t heard Ron Paul say anything about Trayvon Martin.

      Maybe he thinks that Trayvon died because he wasn’t well versed in Austrian school economics.

      • WR_the_realist

        Well, I haven’t heard Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, or any of the other presidential contenders on the Republican side say anything about Trayvon Martin. Why would they? They’re not on the jury.

        • Because there is not and never was a cult of inordinate cult-like worship of Willard Romney, Nut Gingrich, Rickroller Perry or the other Presidential candidates among white nationalists. Ron Paul can be just about as anti-white as the rest of them, yet a good chunk of the WN/EN/RR/HBD movement fawns over him and rips anyone a new one when they say the emperor just might be naked.

          Why?

          Because Ron Paul was (supposedly) a foreign policy neutralitarian, (and even if he was, his open borders stances negated that). And because our beloved movement and a lot of the people in it are too obsessed with “TEH JOOOOOOOZ~!1” for their own good and for their own sanity, they worshiped Ron Paul because they thought his neutralitarian foreign policy was going to get over on “THE JOOOOOOOZ~!1.” That and they thought the “real” Ron Paul was the fake one from 1989-1997, during the famous marketing push trying to cuckold libertarianism into WN/EN/RR/HBD, including the “infamous” newsletters.

          • WR_the_realist

            So you want a politician who will make proclamations about the guilt or innocence of a man under trial, just like the media does? I don’t.

            Ron Paul never was and never claimed to be a white nationalist. I’m not one either. I am a race realist. I care about my race but when all is said and done my loyalty is to the truth. I like Ron Paul because he is something I’ve never seen before — an honest politician. That doesn’t mean I agree with all his positions.

            BTW, Zimmerman has just been found not guilty. Justice was done. Let the riots begin.

    • WR_the_realist

      Ron Paul is against illegal amnesty, although is he weak on enforcement. But you have a vendetta against Ron Paul in just about every other post, as if any other presidential politician in the last couple of elections other then Tom Tancredo was any good on this issue. (And Tancredo never got any traction at all when he ran.)

      • Jackryanvb

        Just stating the facts of life. Ron Paul, Paul Ryan, former New Mexican Governor Johnson are all treasonous on immigration – as are 99% of Libertarians. Open traitors need to be severely punished. No healthy White person should tolerate these terrible traitors, but for some strange reason our side tolerates them, enables them, invites them to debates.

        Our people tolerate , enable all kinds of treason.

        • I don’t know how much of a libertarian you can call Paul Ryan; he has to be the biggest spending libertarian of all time. But no matter what you call him or don’t call him, or no matter what he is or isn’t, he’s an open borders traitor, and therefore someone who will never get any vote of mine, full stop.

          I think the point you’re trying to make about the other two individuals you name plus the son of one of those two individuals is that in the greater scheme of things, they don’t or won’t ever really matter. The problem is that our people get too hung up on certain personalities and certain cuckold counterproductive ideologies instead of focusing on fundamentals that can really connect with people: Like my troika of affordable family formation – immigration patriotism – combating the black undertow & dismantling BRA.

        • WR_the_realist

          Paul Ryan is not a libertarian. Yes, he was influenced by von Mises, Hayek, and Ayn Rand, he has also clearly distanced himself from a strict libertarian line. He voted for No Child Left Behind, which no real libertarian would ever do. He voted for TARP. He voted for the GM bailout. He voted for the Medicare Part D prescription program. In other words, Ryan is just a mainstream Republican with no discernible principles, closer to George Bush than to Ron Paul. Ron Paul sponsored a bill to deny automatic citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants. Damn few Republicans backed it (and to my knowledge no Democrats). Keep advocating “severely punishing” elected politicians who do what they always do — what the wealthy elites want — and I will have to assume you are an FBI plant.

  • anarchyst

    You will find that Catholics that do not subscribe to the “Vatican II” changes are much more conservative than today’s “cafeteria Catholics”.
    I agree that most Christian sects that promote multiculturalism, diversity and open borders (unrestricted immigration) are not only doing a disservice to the country, but are participating in the annihilation of whites.
    The Pius X society and other Catholic conservative organizations are gaining members who are sick of the way organized Christianity is going . . . promoting destruction of our American culture.

    • WR_the_realist

      You will be unsurprised that Catholic sects that reject Vatican II are often listed as “hate groujps” by the $PLC.

  • Alexandra1973

    “Catholicism” means “universal.” Go figure.

    And take a good look at Revelation 17. That describes that cult.

  • WR_the_realist

    It’s hard to think of an issue of lesser importance than whether a politician decides that MLK’s legacy is something we should have a holiday about. Of far greater importance is a politician’s stand on immigration (Paul — so so), foreign policy (Paul — excellent), government spending (Paul – excellent), and upholding the Bill of Rights (Paul — excellent), Ron Paul also opposes affirmative action, seeing that for what it is, government mandated racial discrimination, although he never made that a central part of his platform.