Rubio Stares Down the Right over ‘Undocumented Democrats’

Tim Alberta, Yahoo! News, June 18, 2013

Marco Rubio was not amused.

The senator from Florida had listened patiently as a panel of hand-picked conservatives, lined up across a long table at the front of the room, took turns speaking about the prospects of immigration reform. When discussion finally opened to the anxious, overflowing crowd of lawmakers at the Republican Study Committee’s immigration summit, several were quick to critique their pro-reform colleagues—Rubio the headliner among them.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., argued they should be discussing a report by the Heritage Foundation’s Robert Rector on the costs of amnesty. Rep. Scott Garrett, R-N.J., raised concerns about implementing an e-Verify system. But it was Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, who got under Rubio’s skin.

Referencing a Jay Leno one-liner, Burgess questioned fellow conservatives about the wisdom of giving citizenship to “11 million undocumented Democrats.” Laughter, some of it nervous, spread throughout the room. But not everyone found Burgess’s crack funny. According to several people who attended the June 5 gathering, Rubio glared at Burgess.

This account, confirmed by multiple members and staffers, sheds light on what is perhaps the most politically obvious—and perpetually underplayed—conservative argument against providing citizenship to the nation’s illegal immigrants. With all the noise surrounding the debate over policy specifics—security measures, enforcement triggers, future flow, interior oversight—there is still an underlying political argument whispered among some of Congress’s most conservative members: After 71 percent of Hispanics voted for President Obama in 2012, why should Republicans add millions more to the voting rolls?

Not everyone feels the need to whisper. At this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, Rep.Steve King of Iowa—the leading immigration hard-liner in the House GOP—earned laughter and applause during an immigration panel when he quipped: “Even Republicans seem to think that these undocumented Democrats could be made voters and somehow we’re going to win in that equation. And what happens is that two out of every three that would be legalized become Democrats.”

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Burgess explained his quip as “an effort to tamp down some of the tension in the room,” but said there is a serious conversation being had about the subject of his joke. “I live in a state that has voted Republican in statewide elections for a long time. And yet you cannot pick up a Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle, Fort Worth Star-Telegram without reading an article about how ‘Texas is going to be a Democratic state, it’s just a matter of time,'” Burgess told National Journal. “What’s going on here, is people think if we get a larger and larger immigrant population, they will be obligated to vote Democratic.”

Burgess was quick to point out that he doesn’t agree with that assessment. But King does. And the Iowa lawmaker seems to smell blood in the water, suggesting the “undocumented Democrat” argument, long peddled by radio host Rush Limbaugh, who first used the term in 2010, is “starting to emerge” as a point of contention among conservatives.

If King is right, and this political argument is gaining steam, it could thanks to a trickle-down dynamic—the national conversation influencing conservatives in Congress. There are no shortage of conservative activists, media personalities, and elected officials who have taken tough stances outside of Washington in an attempt to influence what happens within the Beltway.

One of these hard-liners, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, has repeatedly warned about what happened after Ronald Reagan signed an “amnesty package” in 1986: Republicans won a significantly smaller percentage of the Hispanic vote in 1988 (30 percent) than they had in 1980 (35 percent) or 1984 (37 percent). For that reason, Kobach told National Journal earlier this year, the “law and order” stance continues to be “the most advantageous position” for the GOP. “We can improve our outreach and expand and amplify our message … without embracing amnesty,” he said.

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King can barely mask his contempt for Republicans who subscribe to this theory [that Hispanic support will follow amnesty]. “They believe that somehow if we grant amnesty that Hispanics are going to come vote for Republicans. I think that’s not going to happen whether or not we pass amnesty,” King said. “If [Hispanics] vote, they’re going to be voting in the patterns that they have shown up to this point. And it’s clear, 75 percent or more of them are for more government, which means more taxes, and more dependability. And that means more undocumented Democrats.”

With both chambers of Congress considering immigration measures this month, the stakes couldn’t be higher, nor the contrast clearer. Conservatives on both sides of the “path to citizenship” question are convinced that their plan will save the Republican Party—and that the alternative will destroy it. The difference, King warned, is that those Republicans advocating legalization are abandoning their principles in an attempt to win millions of votes they’ll never receive.

“Their excuse is, ‘We’re never going to win another presidency unless we pass amnesty,’ ” King said. “I’ll tell you it’s the exact opposite. If you want to lock it in—that Republicans will never win the presidency again—pass the Gang of Eight bill.”

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  • Why was an inbred, racist, illiterate, intolerant bigot like me able to identify what Rubio was immediately?

    • Erasmus

      Because he was tagging along close behind Jeb Bush, hunchbacked, slobbering and unctuously rubbing his meaty hands together when you first saw him?

    • The__Bobster

      Because when he ran the House in Florida, he killed every anti-squat monster bill?

      • Yet, the usual GOP suspects are holding him up as their savior, and republican voters apparently don’t know any better.

      • Sick of it

        His name alone made me suspect him as soon as I heard of him.

  • David Ashton

    The Burgess quip was brilliant – keep the theme going!

    • me

      “Referencing a Jay Leno one-liner, Burgess questioned fellow conservatives about the wisdom of giving citizenship to “11 million undocumented Democrats.” Laughter, some of it nervous, spread throughout the room. But not everyone found Burgess’s crack funny. According to several people who attended the June 5 gathering, Rubio glared at Burgess.”
      If the Republican ‘conservatives’ in that room were intimidated by Rubio’s ‘stare’, then it’s worse than I thought. If Burgess was any kind of man with a scrotum, he would have glared right back. Maybe Rubio should be taken out behind the wood pile and have the arrogance beat out of him…not that I condone violence in general. I was rhetorically speaking. Really.

  • OhWow

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    • The__Bobster

      Libtards will do the same thing over and over until we let our guard down and they win. Then the game ends.

      • Wrong. When we execute them all the Marxists, we win. All the leftovers will be crying about how they were really conservatives all along and how we should let them live.

        I estimate we’d need about 40 million white executions in the US to make this work, along with all of the blacks and Mexicans. So sorry.

        I’m a humorless sort, so I could go upwards from 40 million to 100 million if pressed.

        Survival is always moral. There’s also a sure-fire way to ensure that none of them will ever come here again. Do you know about hoof & mouth disease?

  • Erasmus

    Hear that flushing sounding? That’s Marco Rubio’s political future swirling around the bowl before disappearing forever.
    Republican “elites” appear to have a great deal of contempt for their base. They think they can ram through amnesty and still the rank and file will turn out to support them.
    They are in for a very rude awakening. Please God, they won’t say they weren’t warned.

    • The__Bobster

      They are being paid generously to betray their base.

      • Erasmus

        As I will never tire of saying, I find lefties betraying their country out of principle, (albeit very warped ones), less loathsome than those on the right like the Bushes and Hannity who do it for money.

        • Sick of it

          Believe it or not, a significant number of liberals agree regarding some of those values. Thus the 70-80% figures for sealing the borders a few years back.

          • DelmarJackson

            Immigration is a transfer of money from labor to capital. It is puzzling how immigration is supposed to be popular with democrats. Immigration is bad for working class citizens, bad for union members, bad for many immigrants, many polls show blacks are against immigration by as much as 88%, immigration is also bad for the environment and it also destroys social capital in communities and lessens civic involvement, and it creates a left-right- gop-democrat dynamic that is a distraction fom those elte globalists at the top who are plundering the nation.
            Democrats should ponder why people like the Koch brothers and the Bush weasels are so in favor of massive immigration, and how come so many billionaire CEOs are in favor of increasing our pool of cheaper and younger foreign workers by tens of millions in the next 30 years just so they can increase their profit.
            If wenhave such a shortage of workers why are the wages declining or stagnant in so many industries that the CEOs say they need millions of foreign workers.
            Immigration will doom the GOP demographically, but any Democrat that thinks we need a single party country, ( more than the one we have now) is trruly stupid, and I thought the GOP was supposed to be the stupid party.
            Finally, no Democrat or GOP leader has thought about how many Americans will begin cherry picking their own laws to obey or disobey once we give another amnesty. It will lead to anarchy.

      • NordicHeritage

        “The enemy is within the gates; it is with our own luxury, our own folly, our own criminality that we have to contend.”
        Marcus Tullius Cicero

    • NM156

      The GOP Inc. elites will really be campaigning with this twat Rubio, along with his musical heroes Kanye West and Little Wayne? Really? Is this how far they’ve sunk into the slime?

      • Sick of it

        They started outwith Lincoln and the Radical Republicans…this is a slight improvement.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    Incredibly fair and sane analysis from yahoo. What rational Republican (who only cares about protecting both his own brand and the Grand Ole Party) would want amnesty anyway? In this case the incentives of the nationalist conservative and the Republican politician are aligned yet he still does what’s wrong.

    It’s become obligatory to say now: Deport Rubio.

  • The__Bobster

    But not everyone found Burgess’s crack funny. According to several people who attended the June 5 gathering, Rubio glared at Burgess.
    _____________

    Little Marquito isn’t even in the same league as real conservatives. I’m waiting for him to throw a tantrum.

    • Erasmus

      If Marquito weren’t brown and didn’t have a last name ending in a vowel, no one would have ever given him a second look. (Of course he does belong to a party that claims the Bushes, McCain and Graham as their torchbearers. Within that circle he might actually be a savant.)

      • NM156

        Speaking of McCain, here’s a photo from his son’s recent wedding…

        • White Mom in WDC

          That is a sore sight. Interesting how the Repubs seem to be the ones mashing it with ‘diversity’ . Guess they can’t pass on the purple pootang

          • The__Bobster

            Check out the daughters of the Gores, the Clintons, the Kennedys….

            They prefer kosher marriages.

          • Jefferson

            At least their Kosher marriages will not produce off springs with Nonwhite phenotypes.

            I am 100 percent certain that John McCain’s son will produce a child who does not look White.

            You can not compare Jew/White Gentile mixing with White/Bantu mixing.

            The former still produces off springs with White looking phenotypes, while the latter rarely does.

          • Erasmus

            Good heaven, is that the mother of the bride to her left or their favorite cashier from the 7-11?

        • Vonhauer

          “We don’t want this to be a white America.” – John McCain

        • Bossman

          Maybe he thinks his father is too white. His father had skin cancer one time. Some racial admixture could lessen than possibility in his progeny.

          • Jefferson

            Squat Monsters do not have to worry about getting skin cancer because of their Amerindian genes. And in New York/New Jersey and Florida’s case, their African genes due to it being mostly Caribbean Hispanics and Panamanians.

        • HJ11

          John McCain is a self-hating white on the outside but black on the inside Great White Father who tries to overcome his hated whiteness by going black in as many ways as possible. In his case he adopted a black daughter (the fat one in the photo) and has apparently had his neurotic hate White attituded infect his son.

          Spit when you hear the name John McCain. He has infected our White genetic code.

        • KevinPhillipsBong

          I once thought that this PC crap was just something our masters solely inflicted upon the poorer, less-connected white masses. After all, rich white politicians aren’t stupid enough to move into a mixed neighborhood, send their kids to a mixed school or marry their kids to nonwhites. Then I see this picture and I think, “I guess they really ARE that dumb.”

      • The__Bobster

        Marquito isn’t brown, which makes his actions more reprehensible.

        • Erasmus

          White on the outside and brown in the middle? What would you call that? A rotten egg?

          • KevinPhillipsBong

            An aging dog turd.

      • Erasmus

        The future of America.

        These are the people “living in the shadows” protesting against US border security.

  • Puggg

    World Net Daily had this poll about what its readers thinks of Marco Rubio now:

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/06/gops-future/

    Remember, these are WND readers mostly casting votes here. So it should be no surprised that “I used to love him, but not after his amnesty-for-illegals dance” is the top vote getter. I voted for “I didn’t care for him before his immigration push, and I like him even less now,” because it is closest to my assessment of him that he has always been for amnesty and open borders.

    • The__Bobster

      (Link omitted because it would put this post in moderation)

      In his Politico blog, Mike Allen relays some interesting information from Ryan Lizza (in the New Yorker [Subscriber link]) about the Gang of Eight Destroy America Bill in the Senate. There’s the Obama influence, for one thing:

      “[A] senior White House offcial insisted that Obama’s role in overseeing details of the bill has been more signifcant than is generally known. ‘No decisions are being made without talking to us about it,’ the official said of the Gang of Eight negotiations … ‘This does not fly if we’re not O.K. with it, because everyone knows this is going to pass with some Republicans but with a majority of Democrats, and it’s going to require even more Democrats in the House.’ … ‘We’re not worried about short-term political credit. We’ll get plenty of it if it gets signed,’ the official said, adding that the White House was willing to let Republicans like [Lindsey] Graham and [Marco] Rubio, who are regularly attacked by conservatives, have the political space they needed. … ‘We’re the hammer on the back end. If the Republicans try to scuttle it, we’re the ones who can communicate to the Latino community who scuttled it.’ …

      • The__Bobster

        Which leads us to what Rubio really thinks of American workers:

        “Rubio sided with the Chamber against the construction workers. ‘There are American workers who, for lack of a better term, can’t cut it,’ a Rubio aide told me. ‘There shouldn’t be a presumption that every American worker is a star performer. There are people who just can’t get it, can’t do it, don’t want to do it. And so you can’t obviously discuss that publicly.’ In the end, the wage issue was settled to the A.F.L.-C.I.O.’s satisfaction, and the Building and Construction Trades union won a cap on the number of visas for foreign construction workers.

        • Erasmus

          “Rubio sided with the Chamber against the construction workers. ‘There are American workers who, for lack of a better term, can’t cut it,’ a Rubio aide told me. ‘There shouldn’t be a presumption that every American worker is a star performer. There are people who just can’t get it, can’t do it, don’t want to do it. And so you can’t obviously discuss that publicly.’

          He should look in the mirror as he says that.

          • BonusGift

            I would like to give you about five up arrows for that one, but could only give you one.

      • Erasmus

        I imagine over at DNC HQ, the Obongo White House and Schumer’s office, they’re probably really yucking it up over how they’re getting Rubio, the rising star of the GOP, to destroy himself and his future as he does their heavy lifting for them.

        • BonusGift

          That is why they have cemented their position as the “party of stupid”. On this issue they are both insane (i.e., expecting a different result from amnesty) and stupid (e.g., actually saying and/or acting on the oxymoron/lie of mestizo/Mexican ‘family values’).

  • ncpride

    The Republicans are still missing the bigger picture here. I don’t care which party the invaders vote for, it pales in comparison to what amnesty would mean for Europeans in this country. They don’t seem to mind being the minority in their own country, nor do they care how we feel about it. They don’t care that amnesty on this scale will surely mean the death of our culture and heritage, or the impact this will have on White children, as they will surely be the hated minority, as they already are in many cities. That these traitors can only think about their greed and power speaks volumes about what they think of their White base, and they’re giving us a huge middle finger.

    • Sick of it

      Many people are interbreeding without a second thought today. Many of the old white conservatives have non-white grandchildren. So it’s not just greed…society has changed drastically.

      • ncpride

        Yes, that’s what happens when a population of people are overwhelmed, and forced together with ‘others’…. As a teenager in the 80’s, race-mixing was unheard of where I grew up, but at that time, America was still at least…what…? 85% White? That’s why this amnesty, if passed, will
        be devastating for us. You know the more realistic number of the 20 to 30 million illegals already here will be allowed to bring their families over as well. They will utterly outnumber us soon after.

        • BonusGift

          The bill should be simply called what it is: the “let’s finish off the U.S. YT genocide bill”. As someone wrote the other day, and note that I’m paraphrasing: “It is sickening what three or four Jewish billionaires and the Koch brothers can do that about 200 million of what should be their base cannot influence them to do (i.e., enforce the borders and stop the 3rd world invasion).”

      • HJ11

        Whites who remain White, who teach their children Whiteness, who refuse to miscegenate, who separate out, may become the new Adams and Eves of this dark planet and all future Whites may be descended from just a few of us alive today.

        One is reminded that about half of all Whites alive today can find Charlemagne in their family trees. In other words, Charlemagne was sort of an “Adam” or “father” to about half of all Whites alive today.

        • Sick of it

          Not sure re: Charlemagne, but I have not heard of any direct descendants through the male line still in existence. Probably wiped out to prevent succession conflicts at some point in European history.

          • HJ11

            Nope, not wiped out. Spread out through many family trees. Mostly, but not exclusively, in Whites today who have at least one French or German ancestor or any ancestors who lived in any of the geographic areas near present day France or Germany (Swiss, et al.) and Western Europe in general. Remember, he lived from 742-814 which is long enough ago to allow his prolific genes to get around and also so far back that any direct ancestors would be difficult to trace.

    • NordicHeritage

      Both parties are sold out to big moneyed interests. They know exactly what they are doing and that’s the sad thing.

  • anarchyst

    democrats want illegals for VOTES. republicans want illegals for CHEAP LABOR. BOTH parties should be pushed into the dustbin of history. . . they are “two sides of the same coin”.

    • Erasmus

      Stupid Republicans. They don’t realize that their cheap labor will in short time turn on them. Cheap labor isn’t cheap.

      Plus, when the GOP has slithered leftward to become more like the democrats, do they really think the base they’ve pauperized are going to stick around and support them?

      The people who once made up their rank and file will either go 3rd party or, beaten down and hungry for bread and circuses, will even join the ranks of the democrats. I mean, if you’re going to go over to the dark side, why play little league with the new, left-leaning GOP when you can play with the dems in the majors?

      • Jefferson

        When conservatives have so-called “friends” like Lindsey Graham, Sean Hannity, Marco Rubio, Sheldon Adelson, Jeb Bush, Dick Morris, and John McCain, who needs enemies ?

      • Funruffian

        Back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s when cheap Migrant labor was fruitful, we didn’t have the same problems we have today. It was the hotheads like Cesar Chavez who fought for equal rights for Migrant workers. In the aftermath this opened the floodgates for Migrant workers asking for more and more preferential treatment on our taxpayer dime.

        • The__Bobster

          Chavez despised the illegals and directed INS raids on the companies that employed them. He knew that the wets lowered the wages for his union workers.

    • Sick of it

      When my mother agrees with dissolving the existing parties, and she does now, it’s obvious that we aren’t being represented anymore. She used to be very passive about things.

  • Jefferson

    When it comes to amnesty, the Republican Party is in the pockets of Walmart and Target for example. Two chain stores that attract an extremely high percentage of Squat Monster customers.

    • NM156

      We need to find the lobbying records of those two fine capitalist institutions in Washington offices, and if they aren’t lobbying directly, an industry intermediary is, one that is heavily funded by those companies.

    • Bossman

      So “squat monsters” have no right to shop?

      • The__Bobster

        Not here they don’t.

        BTW, Home Despot has a lot more squatties than Target.

  • So the best case scenario that the coven of Republican dingbats can hope for is that tens of millions of black and brown people attach themselves to a GOP lifeline that panders to their kind of minority in the hopes that one day the minority will be majority? This morphing of culture and destruction of the West wouldn’t be so bad if only those pesky illegals would just vote Republican, right?

  • HJ11

    Rubio is La Raza. He wants a brown America. He is scum. Spit when you hear his name.

    • Jefferson

      Marco Rubio is part of the new generation of Cuban Americans who are more left wing liberal than the previous generation of Cuban Americans.

      The Cuban American vote is less conservative today than it was 10 years ago.

  • Sherman_McCoy

    “Burgess was quick to point out that he doesn’t agree with that assessment.”

    Then you are a fool, Mike.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      I guess having one ‘nad is better than having none.

  • storibund

    Rubio can stare all he wants.

    Not only has his ship sailed, but it’s suffering the fate of the fireworks factory behind Frank Drebin in “Naked Gun”.

    • Erasmus

      You’re suggesting that Sr. Bubio is just too stupid not to have figured it out already?

  • AllSeeingEyeSpy

    No doubt Jared Taylor is training up for his next MMA event. What we need is a white nationalist, who is a rabid kickboxer. . (sarcasm off)

  • Yale2001

    There is no possible positive outcome to amnesty. We are shooting ourselves in the foot. Why do we want more democratic voters, a larger deficit and increased crime?

  • mobilebay

    If our government is determined to give away our country, does it have to be to the third world slithering across our southern border? We have fought off mighty armies, equipped with weapons equal to ours all over the world, led by those whose aim it was to defend our nation and its people. Now, we have an administration fllled with traitors who approve and encourage an invasion on our own soil and who’ve waved the white flag of surrender.

  • Jackryanvb

    Check Rubio’s voting records, how he reacted to the election, re-election of Obama. M’thinks he did what the last minority conservative savior General Colin Powell did:

    Wildly celebrated with Black African students.

  • Jackryanvb

    Target and Walmarts in Tijuana Mexico.

  • Funruffian

    Prior to the 2012 Election I thought Rubio was the best Running mate possible for Romney. I, like many others, thought he could have a shoe in for gaining the Hispanic vote . I was wrong. If Romney had chosen Rubio, the outcome would have been the same with undeniable proof that Hispanics will vote democrat regardless.

    • The__Bobster

      Mexicans hate cane-cutters. They really do. A lot of it is due to the immigration policy that favors them.

  • WR_the_realist

    King is certainly right. Democrats favor illegal immigration despite the fact that it lowers wages and increases unemployment, and causes population growth that is bad for the environment, precisely because they know that once given the vote the illegal aliens will give the Democrats a lock in the elections. California, once the state of Ronald Reagan, will probably never vote for a Republican at the state level again (other than obvious RINOs), thanks to its demographic changes. Republicans who believe that amnestied illegal immigrants will reward them with their votes are beyond stupid, because even stupid people can understand simple truths.

    If Republicans want to be popular again they should keep us out of wars, restore the 4th amendment by scrapping the TSA and putting a leash on the NSA, and cut the budget before they cut taxes. The only people who hate them for wanting to enforce immigration law are the lefties at the Daily Kos and their ilk who would never in a million years vote Republican anyway.

  • Paleoconn

    It’s funny how they use terma like ‘undocumented’ when these people have fake documents coming out of every orifice on their body.