Race and IQ. Again.

Andrew Sullivan, The Dish, May 14, 2013

I should know better than to bring this up again. But the effective firing of a researcher, Heritage’s Jason Richwine, because of his Harvard dissertation should immediately send up red flags about intellectual freedom. I am not defending the Heritage report on immigration because I think it’s a loaded piece of agitprop. And I am emphatically not defending everything that Richwine has said and done (not least his disturbing willingness to be published in white supremacist magazines).

What I do want to insist is that the premise behind almost all the attacks–that there is no empirical evidence of IQ differences between broad racial categories–is not true. It is true (pdf), if you accept the broad racial categories Americans use as shorthand for a bewilderingly complex DNA salad (a big if, of course). There’s no serious debate about that. The serious debate is about what importance to assign to the concept of “IQ” and about the possible reasons for the enduring discrepancies: environment, nurture, culture, or genes–or some variation of them all?

For my part, I’ve come to doubt the existence of something called “g” or general intelligence, as the research has gathered over the years. {snip}

{snip}

I haven’t had time to read the thing [Dr. Richwine’s dissertation], and some have cast aspersions on it after a browse. But it is abhorrent to tar someone researching data as a racist and hound him out of a job simply because of his results, honestly discovered and analyzed. One particularly disturbing statement came from 23 separate student groups at Harvard:

Central to his claim is the idea that certain groups are genetically predisposed to be more intelligent than others. In his troubling worldview Asians are generally at the top, with whites in the middle, Hispanics follow, and African Americans at the bottom. To justify his assertions he cites largely discredited sources such as J. Philippe Rushton whose work enshrines the idea that there are genetically-rooted differences in cognitive ability between racial groups.We condemn in unequivocal terms these racist claims as unfit for Harvard Kennedy School and Harvard University as a whole. Granting permission for such a dissertation to be published debases all of our degrees and hurts the University’s reputation … Even if such claims had merit, the Kennedy School cannot ethically stand by this dissertation whose end result can only be furthering discrimination under the guise of academic discourse.

My italics. They are, of course, caricaturing the argument–I know of no scholar who believes that genes are entirely responsible for the racial differences. Here’s another caricature of it:

Human beings have not existed long enough to be divided into separate and distinct racial “species.”

Of course not. We remain the same species, just as a poodle and a beagle are of the same species. But poodles, in general, are smarter than beagles, and beagles have a much better sense of smell. We bred those traits into them, of course, fast-forwarding evolution. But the idea that natural selection and environmental adaptation stopped among human beings the minute we emerged in the planet 200,000 years ago–and that there are no genetic markers for geographical origin or destination–is bizarre. {snip}

But what the Harvard students are saying is worse than creating a straw man. They are saying that even if it is true that there are resilient differences in IQ in broad racial groupings, such things should not be studied at Harvard because their “end result can only be furthering discrimination.” You can’t have a more explicit attack on intellectual freedom than that. They even seem to want the PhD to be withdrawn.

Freddie deBoer and Reihan Salam have two good posts about this. Freddie:

Racism thrives on conspiratorial thinking and the self-definition of racists as an oppressed group. When you say things that are true aren’t, and especially when you do so in a way that treats the other point of view as forbidden, you play directly into their hands. I cannot imagine an easier way to give them fuel for their argument than to say that certain test results don’t exist when they do.

That’s my view in a nutshell. What on earth are these “liberals” so terrified of, if not the truth? {snip}

But please don’t say truly stupid things like race has no biological element to it or that there is no data on racial differences in IQ (even though those differences are mild compared with overwhelming similarity). Denying empirical reality is not a good thing in any circumstance. In a university context, it is an embrace of illiberalism at its most pernicious and seductive: because its motives are good.

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  • …he cites largely discredited sources such as J. Philippe Rushton ….
    .
    Largely discredited? More like just largely condemned.

    • And that sums up the liberal agenda.

      • AutomaticSlim

        wtf?

    • Sloppo

      He was condemned by people who hate the truth.

    • Charles W.

      This is a classic liberal tactic. They refer to those whose work disproves their deluded world view as “largely discredited” without ever producing any real evidence of such. That alone is sufficient for their zombie liberal followers.

      • eunometic

        Everytime Steven Jay Gould, Franz Boaz, Maragaret Mead, Ashley Montague are mention the term “discredited” should be applied since they all have been. Same goes for Richard Lowintin. These people, liars for a cause, are easy to discredit. The problem is the shear volume of Rhetoric they put out and they way it is fed to unwitting consumers of main stream media.

        We can’t expet the anti-whites to stick with the scientific method, rules of evidence, polite debate, empiricism if it means their objectives are exposed and discredited. That’s why its now illegal to apply an IQ test to a child in California. It is still neccessary to have such as the work of Herrenstein and Murray’s the Bell Curve, Rushtons Race, evolution Behaviour to underpin us but we can no expect the anti-Whites to admit the truth.

      • They also love the term “controversial”.

      • sbuffalonative

        Mr. Sullivan is gay. I’m sure he unquestionally believes his sexuality is found in his genes while he likely believes that race is a social contruct.

        • a multiracial individual

          Identical twins raised apart have similar IQ and sexual orientation.

        • IanJMacDonald

          Then perhaps you should re-read his column. Focus on the last paragraph.

        • Dr. X

          “Mr. Sullivan is gay. I’m sure he unquestionally believes his sexuality
          is found in his genes while he likely believes that race is a social
          contruct.” Bingo! These people play the role of dispassionate empiricist only when it suits their political agenda. They claim the mantle of science only so long as it supports their pre-existing worldview. (By the way… if there is such a thing as a “gay gene” it should have been bred out of the gene pool long ago, because according to Darwin and Spencer, it’s all about reproduction and gays don’t reproduce. So if there is a “gay gene” it could only have been trasmitted to subsequent generations if gays had chosen to be “bi”, which allowed then to pass on the “gay gene;” or else there is no gay gene at all and gayness is totally cultural and environmental. Indeed, it’s likely that gays have it backwards: gayness is a social construct, while race is a genetic construct.)

    • Jane Johnson

      Largely condemned, HUGELY feared.

    • John

      The more they cry “racism”, the more I will calmly and politely ask them to explain the ramifications of the fact that Negroids share much more genetic material (DNA) with simians than Caucasoids share with simians. Those are the facts that the egalitarians detest and deplore with their illogical passion for such truths.

      The fact of the matter is that Negroids are somewhere between chimpanzees and Caucasoids on the evolutionary ladder. It’s a fact, and every shred of empirical and anecdotal evidence supports that fact. I beg any egalitarian who reads this to produce on iota of evidence that disproves that fact.

      Has anyone ever read Erectus Walks Amongst Us? It is strongly recommended and well worth the read if you have not.

      The established facts are that chimpanzees and homo sapiens sapiens share ~98.5% of the same DNA. We differ by only 1.5%, but consider the enormous difference caused by that 1.5%! It is also an established fact that Negroids and Caucasoids differ by at least 0.5%! Obviously, Negroids are more closely related to chimpanzees.

      In fact, here is another excellent read that illustrates how Negroids are far more closely-related to chimpanzees than Caucasoids.

      http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Race&Groups-General/+Doc-Race&Groups-General-Biology/RacialDifferenceMeasuredByGeneticDistance.htm

    • 48224

      Right. The fact that every black school district in America is a failure is simply a strange coincidence. Color has nothing to do with it.
      Even is cities like Detroit where they spend MORE on Detroit Public Schools (black) than they do on the suburban (white) students, the Detroiters still do far worse.
      It’s amazing how so few people know this.

  • The__Bobster

    One is not permitted to refute leftist dogmas, especially if the refutation is truthful.

    • Jane Johnson

      Or, as another poster here so adroitly summed up: The host is not allowed to criticize the parasite. Wish I could recall who said it first, but you know who you are, and this is still a great quote. Leftism in a nutshell.

  • David Ashton

    “Even if…” the fatal give-away.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Avoid the truth at all costs because it might ‘hurt someone’s feelings’.

      • MBlanc46

        And “offend” them.

    • a multiracial individual

      When you can’t defeat their arguments, you are forced to silence them.

  • sbuffalonative

    I am not defending the Heritage report on immigration because I think
    it’s a loaded piece of agitprop. And I am emphatically not defending
    everything that Richwine has said and done (not least his disturbing
    willingness to be published in white supremacist magazines).

    Mr. Sullivan certainly went out of his way to cover all the bases in insulating himself.

    Mr. Sullivan can chose not to believe the ‘g factor’ but that doesn’t make it any less real.

    Mr. Sullivan needs to leave the office and the cocktail parties and take a walk on the black side. Then again, he would only blame his experience on white racism.

    • rebelcelt

      I refuse to believe that blacks are better basketball players than whites. It is agitprop,I do not care about the empirical or anecdotal evidence. I am disturbed that that such magazines like Sports Illustrious will publish such tripe.Or that it would makes much difference in a basketball game if they are better.

      • gemjunior

        Of Course Sacred Negros are better at basketball – there are no whites allowed on teams so there is literally no way to evaluate the truth that blacks aren’t better players. So everyone believes that White Men Can’t Jump cause the TV Movie Men say so. Also, they gotztabee good at sumpin. But modern basketball has devolved into an all black simpleton ugga bugga game without the old finesse and intelligence with more complicated plans and plays. When only token whites are on basketball and football, again created by whites, the games take on a sense of simplistic boredom that brings down the whole tone of the games.

      • Mrfinoni

        many of the whites are imports from Europe where they are able to hone their skills without the racial tension of the U.S. thus the Spaniards all European team gave the Americans a run for their money in the last Olympics.

  • AutomaticSlim

    ‘They are saying that even if it is true that there are
    resilient differences in IQ in broad racial groupings, such things
    should not be studied at Harvard because their “end result can only be
    furthering discrimination.”’

    And that sums up the liberal agenda.
    Suppress the truth when it conflicts with their socialist egalitarian agenda.
    What a pack of morons they are.

  • DiversityIsDeath

    Sullivan complains about Richwine’s “disturbing willingness to be published in white supremacist magazines”. (What SULLIVAN considers “white supremacist” magazines.) Anyway, why shouldn’t an author be willing to be published in ANY and EVERY magazine?

    • Sloppo

      Is there any such thing as a genuine “white supremacist magazine”?

      • Jane Johnson

        Yes, Guns and Ammo

      • StillModerated

        Chronicles: The Magazine of American Culture
        Field and Stream
        The New American

        • IanJMacDonald

          Classical Source – Comprehensive collection of information and news on classical music subjects including articles, interviews, concert and CD reviews.

          NASCAR Illustrated Magazine

          RollerDerby Magazine

          You know, any magazine dealing with stuff white people like.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Low IQ people commonly get white supremacist and white nationalist confused.

        • Sloppo

          I’m not saying anything about anyone’s IQ right now, but I don’t understand why a magazine about guns or hunting and/or fishing should be confused with one that promotes the idea that whites should rule non-white nations.

          • Nathanwartooth

            Honestly, I don’t even view White supremacist as that definition. Also my post was a joke. I was just taking a stab at the author of the article.

            The author was talking about his article being in the Alternative Right blog, which is a White nationalist blog.

            I myself think that (well the evidence is quite supportive) only certain races can create first world conditions. So I hold those races in a higher regard than others. I guess I am a first world supremacist, lol.

          • Sloppo

            Supremacy means supreme power or authority. You and I may believe that some races are better than others at creating and maintaining a civilization, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we believe some races have the right or need to rule over other races.

          • Non Humans

            That and to a nonhuman a gun is just a gun. Something to put holes into another nonhuman with. An essential (white-mans’) tool for life in the ghetto.
            .
            To a white person, they come in different weights, calibers, materials, ammo types, designs, purposes, etc. Usually they are assetts, tools for sport, or items for protection from nonhumans and tyrannical government.
            .
            We understand and promote innovation (among many other things). Their thought processes are simply not as complex, nor is their “Culture” (using that term loosely) at all refined.

      • Non Humans

        For real! I’ll need a lifetime subscription.

      • Pan Europa

        That is good idea; like, a webzine that has different interviews of who is who in White Nationalisim; or, our own TV program that runs documentaries of historical White people —along with cheese and winemaking. You know ho Western Man loves his hooch.

      • josh

        MAD?? I always enjoyed it!

  • JohnEngelman

    One particularly disturbing statement came from 23 separate student groups at Harvard:

    Central to his claim is the idea that certain groups are genetically predisposed to be more intelligent than others. In his troubling worldview Asians are generally at the top, with whites in the middle, Hispanics follow, and African Americans at the bottom. To justify his assertions he cites largely discredited sources such as J. Philippe Rushton whose work enshrines the idea that there are genetically-rooted differences in cognitive ability between racial groups.

    – Andrew Sullivan, The Dish, May 14, 2013

    Professor Rushton’s assertions are corroborated by racial differences in SAT averages going back to the school year of 1986 – 87.

    http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

    • AutomaticSlim

      “Professor Rushton’s assertions are corroborated by racial differences in
      SAT averages going back to the school year of 1986 – 87.”

      They are corroborated by much more than that, Mr. Engleman.
      How about no accomplishments of any significance coming from Sub Saharan Africa or its descendents. Ever.

      • Peanut Butter.

        • that’s a 2000 year old asian invention. Ever notice they cook with a lot of peanut oil?

          • Will

            Peanut butter is a recipe and not an invention.
            Besides, it was a creation of South American Indians as the peanut is a legume that originated in South America.

          • Well, I tried to stick up for our African Brothers. Since they never even invented the wheel, I thought that Peanut Butter might stand as a great accomplishment for them. I tried.

    • APaige

      John,

      I know sometimes you stand alone on this site, and STILL stick to your convictions-I do admire that fact. I just wanted to know if you were aware that the SATs were canceled in Korea this month because of cheating? Certain cultures (east Asian) accept ‘cheating’-not a very admirable trait.

      • AutomaticSlim

        Korea has its problems. I agree with that. I have been there several times and I know it is far from perfect.

        But there is one problem they do not have. 30 million+ blacks.
        That is a problem unique to the grand old USA.

        PS. I am seriously considering retiring to Korea when the time comes. Hopefully within the next 10 years.

      • edie

        if they cancelled the SAT because of cheating then they don’t accept it.
        The US does, in “certain communities”

      • Martel

        Lol, as someone who studied with many asians, nearly all of them cheated and they were much more sophisticated and xperienced then us westerners

        • NYB

          Very little of the honor system or ‘sportsmanship’ exists among Orientals. They have a saying: “the winner is a king, the loser is a thief” – You cannot create a society based on trust or civic responsibility if the building blocks are from the Orient.

          • AutomaticSlim

            That’s a little harsh…

        • Intrepid

          Because whites don’t cheat? If you selectively notice Asians then you’ll miss the same things going on when others cheat.

      • JohnEngelman

        I agree with you.

      • MBlanc46

        Oh, please. Where ever there are rules, there’s cheating. Culture may play a role in what is considered cheating (e.g., in most Western societies, baksheesh is seen as corruption, whereas in the Middle East, it’s seen as business as usual), where there are people, there’s cheating.

        • Jane Johnson

          I agree. Market based interest rates aren’t much different than the “vig” bookies and loansharks demand from deadbeats. The “invisible hand” translates to the Guido factor in street economics.I’m Italian, so I can use this example, but anyone else who attempts to do the same is obviously RACIST.

          • MBlanc46

            There is that Italian-American anti-defamation league founded by Joey Colombo to protect you guys (or is that youse guys). Being from Chicago, I reserve the right to talk about wise guys even though I’m not Italian.

          • Jane Johnson

            Columbo was killed at a Columbus Day rally that he arranged. Unlike Gambino and Luciano, he wasn’t known for his organizational skills. Besides, we don’t need no ADLs when we got da pope on our side. Believe that so long as da pope is white, la cosa nostra is in a state of grace.

      • Intrepid

        Cheating is hardly limited to a few Asian students. It’s very prevalent among American kids too.

  • JohnEngelman

    One particularly disturbing statement came from 23 separate student groups at Harvard:

    Even if such claims had merit, the Kennedy School cannot ethically stand by this dissertation whose end result can only be furthering discrimination under the guise of academic discourse.

    – Andrew Sullivan, The Dish, May 14, 2013

    ———–

    specific policies based on premises that conflict with scientific truths about human beings tend not to work. Often they do harm.

    – Charles Murray, from “The Inequality Taboo”
    http://www.bible-researcher.com/murray1.html

  • bigone4u

    The truth? Andrew Sullivan can say things and be heard in certain circles because he’s gay. He’s at no risk of losing his job the way you and I would be if we said the same things. Kudos nonetheless to him because it helps in deflecting the next step in the liberal vendetta, which is to revoke Richwine’s doctoral degree.

    • Kblankenship7

      So he has some teflon. i had forgotten.

    • sbuffalonative

      He likely believes that he was born gay and that race is a social contruct.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    And Obama wants to fund a decade-long scientific effort to examine the workings of the human brain. Has he thought through the unpleasant facts this might uncover regarding race and differences in IQ? Or is he hoping by government involvement he will have a chance to suppress any uncomfortable findings?

  • APaige

    “Even if such claims had merit, the Kennedy School cannot ethically stand by this dissertation” so now instead of merit they want dissertations to be judged by ethics? How about one of them write a dissertation refuting the claim.

  • Charles W.

    Liberals love to pretend like they live and breath science when it comes to talk of God, the Bible and evolution, but bring up the topics of gender and race and watch them turn as anti-science as the biggest evangelical Bible Belt Christian.

    • Dude

      I think you mean “sex” not “gender.”

  • Sloppo

    “Central to his claim is the idea that certain groups are genetically predisposed to be more intelligent than others. In his troubling worldview Asians are generally at the top, with whites in the middle, Hispanics follow, and African Americans at the bottom. … We condemn in unequivocal terms these racist claims as unfit for Harvard Kennedy School and Harvard University as a whole.”

    I believe members of the 23 student groups should prove the validity of their viewpoints by eschewing European and Asian technology and only use cars and computers exclusively designed and built by Africans and non-white hispanics. There must be some really good ones to choose from because there are more than a billion blacks and non-white hispanics on this planet and they control an enormous amount of territory with a very impressive wealth of vital natural resources.

    • saxonsun

      Well, it’s easily observed anyway and no one talks about it. Why is it that whites took the giant leap into evolutionary glory and native tribes in places like the Amazon and Africa have not moved one inch?

      • Sloppo

        How can you say that the Amazon and African people’s haven’t moved an inch? The medical scientists that led the way in virgin-child-rape HIV cure research weren’t exactly European.

  • edie

    I don’t believe many people understand how brainwashed the last few generations are.
    There are a majority of them who are totally brainwashed to civil rights/black scam to the extent they are lost.

  • StillModerated

    One particularly disturbing statement came from 23 separate student groups at Harvard:

    Please, name the 23 groups. On second thought, I’ll take a wild stab. Hillel, College Democrats, Black Student Union, African Student Association, Holocaust and Genocide Awareness Council, Students for Israel, Nigerian Students Association, Harvard College Rap Collective, Half-Asian Peoples Association, Haitian Alliance, GLOW, Fuerza Latina, Black Men’s Forum, Black Community and Student Theater, etc. Ugh! I’m getting sick reading the list.

    • IanJMacDonald

      The official list of the 23 anti-science groups at Harvard are upset that facts devastate their ignorant presuppositions:

      HKS Latino Caucus
      Harvard Journal of Hispanic Policy
      Argentina Caucus
      Brazilian Caucus
      HKS Latin American Policy Journal
      Colombian Society
      HKS Latin American Caucus
      Harvard Kennedy School Student Government President Rohit Malhotra
      Israel Caucus
      Palestine Caucus
      LGBTQ Caucus
      LGBTQ Policy Journal
      Progressive Caucus
      The Africa Caucus
      Jewish Caucus
      The Black Student Union at the Harvard Kennedy School
      Women and Gender Caucus
      Women’s Policy Journal
      The South Asia Caucus
      The Arab Caucus
      The Asian Pacific American Caucus
      Asian American Policy Review Journal
      Middle East Journal
      Democratic Caucus

      • After reading through that laundry list of self-admitted morons, it’s difficult to realize that straight gentile white men founded Harvard.

      • Rhialto

        This post is more informative than Sullivan’s oozings.

        1-I did not know that Harvard students had caucuses, as opposed to associations. I guess this means that students have some control over Harvard’s management.

        2- Their hatred of Racism and Richwine has brought the Israel and Palestine Caucuses together, as well as the Arab and Feminist Caususes, plus the Black and Asian. This shows the power that hatred of white men generates.

      • MAJ

        Just reading the names of those groups all piled together freaks me out.

        • Sloppo

          I’m pondering the concept of solidarity between LGBTQ Jewish people and members of the Arab and Palestine caucuses. I wonder if their mutual hatred for whites can make them hold hands with each other.

      • blight14

        Summed up yet again as the ‘usual suspects’…………

      • Kblankenship7

        i don’t see why Argentina caucus, Jewish caucus and LGBTQ caucus signed, other than to remain with party line on this. i don’t endorse these groups necessarily, don’t know anything about them, but would say they have a number of high IQ people in them.

        • Sloppo

          Just because an individual has a high IQ doesn’t mean that person can’t be evil and full of hatred for us.

        • sbuffalonative

          Two things.
          It’s a knee jerk reaction. They think if one group is singled out other groups will be singled out. It’s a defensive move.
          The other reason is that each one of these groups is relatively small and weak. So to make themselves look like a formidable powerhouse, they join forces to protect and defend each other.

      • MBlanc46

        These are what I believe are known as the “usual suspects”.

  • dd121

    Dismissed! Just more marxist blather.

  • PlumberofNazareth

    To loosely paraphrase Nydwracu, liberals have forsaken truth because they have the Truth. They have slowly substituted progressive morality (universal egalitarianism) for actual science, and now they can’t see the difference.

  • Talltrees

    “even though those differences are mild compared with overwhelming similarity”

    Mild!? There’s a huge difference between 85 and 100. Compare 70 of Africans to 100+ of Whites.

    But, Andrew Sullivan, who used to write for Salon (lean so far left, they are about to fall off the cliff) at least came part way.

    I see it as ‘mildly’ encouraging.

  • Mrfinoni

    I think they harbour a fear that the whites will create a new world order based on white supremacy, armed with the scientific. belief in their own superiority. liberals assume the worst of humankind. paradoxically forcing minorities to compete in a Eurocentric school system sets them up for failure and does not allow them to develop their own talents appropriately.

    • Anonymous

      If liberals assume the worst of humankind, that is one thing they are actually doing right. People have called me a fascist and even I think that to assume the worst is a prudent way to go about one’s life.

      If most people were to believe in HBD, it is highly probable that the left side of the bell curve wouldn’t understand the concept of a bell curve or the concept standard deviation. Intelligent HBDers believe that the *average* White person is smarter than the *average* Black person by about 15 IQ points. That being said, smart HBDers also acknowledge that the standard deviation in IQ is about 15-16 points. Lets just say, the ideas of HBD get out into the mainstream society and are accepted by dumb people. The dumb HBDers will simply think “White people are smarter than Black people” and it may lead them to huge discrimination against Black people or even genocide. I don’t trust anyone with an IQ of below 100 with grand sophisticated theories because they will most likely misunderstand it and their misunderstandings will lead to barbaric behaviour on their part. A very likely outcome of mainstream acceptance of HBD would be IQ 85 White guys who think their IQs are 100 just because they are White. Also dumb people would automatically assume that no Black man could possibly have a three digit IQ.

      The only way in which we could have mainstream acceptance of HBD not leading to mass chaos would be if the entire left side of the bell curve disappeared.

      • MBlanc46

        People a hundred years ago got along pretty well with the idea of racial difference, even if they didn’t understand the underlying details. Since the turn of the last century, there’s been a full-scale intellectual assault on what people used to rightly believe in order to impose social integration. Empirical evidence increasingly undermines that assault. As someone said above, in the future the opponents of the heritability will look like flat-earthers. I doubt that many people will be shocked by the idea that the races differ regarding intelligence and other traits. Jesse, and Al, and Cornel West will have coronaries, but I suspect that most black people are smart enough to realize that they’re not as smart as whites and Asians.

  • Morris LeChat

    well, we know that 23 people got into harvard by affirmative action and not merit

  • Hard Tocarry

    “even though those differences are mild compared with overwhelming similarity”

    Same thing can be said about similarities to chimpanzees….

  • libertarian 1234

    As advances in genetic research continue to reveal the nonsense of the tenets of political correctness, its adherents will be eventually regarded as modern day’s answer to the flat earth society of years ago.

  • Ted

    There are two issues: Whether it is true. And, if so, whether humans–the moreso in hedonistic
    contemporary America–are sound enough as now socially and politically organized to deal with
    such a large truth. The second question is a sound one. People I respect ( but do not agree
    with…at least yet ) believe this to be a truth too large for humans and certainly too large for a
    whole hog electoral demockcrazy ( democracy debased by too much popular power and too
    little hierarchial constraint )

  • TheOperation

    Who in the right mind can look at the technological achievements, cultural achievements mathematical achievements medical achievements of the white man and look at the total lack of development by the Blacks and come to the conclusion that blacks have the same average level of intelligence as Whites. How can anyone look at the state of ANY Black run place on the planet and come to the conclusion that Blacks are the same as Whites ?. I do not understand this, the truth has been staring EVERYONE in the face for hundreds of years. Thankfully more and more Whites every single day are beginning to awaken to this FACT and it only a matter of time before the house of cards falls.

  • Anonymous

    One does not simply tell the truth in Mordor…

    (Eh, someone made me think of that joke.)

  • Winston Merryweather

    What white supremacy magazines is this dolt referring to? Also, you don’t need IQ results to extrapolate possible outcomes. One only need look at actual civilizations to see which races have accomplished what.

    Here, I’ll help you get started with what others have observed:

    It will be seen that when we classify mankind by color, the only primary race that has not made a creative contribution to any civilization is the Black race. — Dr. Arnold Toynbee, Historian

    In most if not all of the newly independent Black nations of Africa, little if anything during the past 5000 or more years can be pointed to as having made a contribution that in any way enhances the life of man. — Walter Arnold, The Evolution of Man in Relation to That of the Earth, Part V, The Mankind Quarterly, Vol. X, No.2 (Oct-Dec 1969) p. 78.

    The major cause for American Negroes intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin and thus not remedial to a major degree by improvement in environment. — Dr. William Shockley, Stanford University, Nobel Prize winner

    Never yet could I find that a Black had uttered a thought above the level of plain narration… never saw an elementary tract of painting or sculpture. — Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President

    Black people never founded a government nor made a single step toward civilization that did not soon lapse in barbarism, except under the fostering care and guidance of White people. — Thomas Hardwick, U.S. Congressman

    Whatever may be the sociological value of the legal fiction that ‘all men are born free and equal,’ there can be no doubt that in its biological application, at any rate, this statement is one of the most stupendous falsehoods ever uttered by man through his misbegotten gift of articulate speech. — Dr. Earnest Hooton, Professor of Anthropology, Harvard University

  • NordicHeritage

    After reading this type of news day in and day out it makes one wonder if we have a chance at all of changing this downward spiral.

    • MBlanc46

      It can get discouraging all right. In scientific literature there is more published every day about the biological bases of behavior. But it rarely pushes itself into popular publications, and almost never when race is an issue.

  • Anon

    The serious debate is about what importance to assign to the
    concept of “IQ” and about the possible reasons for the enduring
    discrepancies: environment, nurture, culture, or genes–or some variation
    of them all?

    And here you have the specific problem with IQ I have been warning about for years now. IQ is being inappropriately…..ignorantly, treated as a measure of intelligence. IT IS NOT!

    Higher IQ means NOTHING, literally. IQ is a yes/no normative test for mental deficiency. The lower the score, the more likely the person is mentally deficient. No, a lower score says nothing about how intelligent the person is. It ONLY says something about the probability that a person is mentally deficient. They either are, or they are not. Normal IQ and above mean it is unlikely the person is a mental defective. Higher IQ has no meaning outside this yes/no probability.

    What do IQ differences mean among races? Low collective IQ means they have many more mental defectives dragging the scores down.

    And here you have a liberal taking full advantage of the invalid interpretation of IQ as an amount of intelligence. He is basically saying, it doesn’t matter if non-whites are a little less smart than whites. We just have to try a little harder with them. These are LIES!

    The issue is immigration floods the US with retards. People who can’t read and will never be able to read. People who cannot provide any meaningful contribution to our society and will not only never be anything of a burden but that burden will be intergenerational.

    What is the purpose of that burden? It is to collapse the system. Once the system no longer functions, the liberals intend to face us with an ultimatum. Tens of millions of worthless people will need to die in order for any system to ever work again. Everyone will be forced into grinding poverty until that happens as the ONLY solution they will leave us is the final one.

    And they will only allow the system to function again if we agree to allow that system to be communism….with the liberals firmly on top, of course.

    • MBlanc46

      You must come from a planet where IQ means something different to what it means on Earth.

  • Chas No

    “Veritas” my ass. F U Harvard.

  • Cheops

    This whole debacle over Richwine’s study proves the adage:

    “The triumph of world leftism is the death knell of humanity.”

  • Bobby

    Thses “students” are the best proof that Harvard and practically every Ivy League university are totally degraded. They don’t have to agree with Richwine, but to comdemn him shows their stupidness.

  • Kblankenship7

    IQ and genetics is just common sense. It is much like stature, mostly genetic, but environment has a role. We seet his within families within broad racial groups, i.e. one family generally produces smarter children. Same with athletic ability, mental illness, etc. genetics merely confirms what historical experience taught us many years ago. It is really nothing revolutionary, although i think the work of those who have empirically documented it proves their bravery and intellectual honesty. Some on this site don’t like me for not being an atheist and an evolutionist, but I do very much appreciate the work of Rushton and all the others.

  • wattylersrevolt

    The only discussion that really matters at the most fundamental level is post-1965 race-replacement immigration policy, and all the horrific consequences that comes with racial minoirty status. IQ test scores:100 percent irrelevant. Thought experiment:suppose we woke up tommorrow and every mexican had an IQ of 500. What would change as far as the fundamental issue goes? Absolutely nothing. The case for race-replacing millions of Native Born White Americans would not increase by a bit. So Jared, why do want to swim around in the realm of IQ test score psychometrics which is completely irrelevant to the race-replacement issue. You may not want to admit to this…but..you are creating a back door for asian legal immigration.

    If the case against letting high high IQ test score asians into our America is very strong..then the case against hispanics is trivial.

    In the meantime, Jared as sidetracked the debate away from the predatory asian invaders…you..Jared.. enable the asians to destroy thousands of years of acquired Native Born White American scientific,engineering , and medical experince…experience that will never be developed in places such as Appalachia included..once it is lost ..it will be lost forever.

    Jared Taylor…guilty as charged.

    If we woke up tommorrow and discovered that mexicans all had an IQ of 500…should we have an open borders policy with Mexico….and have a full-blown amnesty.

    We could also be having a rip roaring debate about the very serious threat that asian legal immigrants pose to America’s wildlife.

  • Sangraal

    ‘even though [racial IQ] differences are mild compared with overwhelming similarity’

    Well, they’re all above 50…

    You know, coffee and magma are both very hot, compared to glaciers.

  • Homo_Occidentalis

    We condemn in unequivocal terms these racist claims as unfit for Harvard Kennedy School and Harvard University as a whole.

    Shouldn’t Harvard’s own student body (overwhelmingly Jewish and Asian, with the only blacks being affirmative action recipients) buoy Richwine’s thesis? These multi-cultists are absolutely blind to sense.

  • wattylersrevolt

    My logic is brutally simple and clear:if a score on an IQ test is the main reason for keeping Mexicans out…the “debate” about race-replacement has been completely reduced to an economic argument. The economic argument always opens a back window to race-replacing the Native Born White American Majority when 1)there is an available foriegn racial group that scores high on an IQ test score and 2) there is a severe labor scarcity in US labor markets.
    The obssession with IQ test scores is central to Brimelow’s Immigration Moratorium which makes an economic case for race-replacing the Native Born White American Majority when there is a severe labor scarcity.

    • Jane Johnson

      Allow me to elucidate for you why the IQ thing keeps coming up. It is a call to arms for the best and brightest of the white population of this country to come up with PROOF that we ARE the best and brightest. That is what is demanded of us now. That we are more intelligent than the third world detritus we are being forced to subsidize is a given, but it is not enough to derail the egalitarian bullet train that is destroying 2000 years of civilization.

      • wattylersrevolt

        Dear Jane
        Google Sailer.com…NASA Control Room Photo…that’s all the proof we need.

        • Jane Johnson

          That was strange! Clicked on the link and Sailer.com is for sale. I know you said to Google, but for me, clickable links are irresistable. As a side note, recheck the story about the girl kicked out of school for beating a classmate unconscious. I posted some info about the school superintendent, Nikolai Vitti, who wants her back in class and calls her a “scapegoat”. He got his doctorate in education from Hahvahd despite being a self-admitted dyslexic and slow reader who required “early intervention” in order to complete his coursework. I’m all for special ed for those who need it, but to put someone with learning disabilities in charge of a school district of over 125,000 students is incomprehensible to me. He’s 35 years old, and makes $275,000 per year as superintendent. No wonder public education is such a joke these days. I have a month old grandson, and if I can’t afford to subsidize private school for him when the time comes, I will school him myself.

  • wattylersrevolt

    Pinning the Revolt against the open and deliberate policy of race-replacing the Native Born White American Majority-with high fertility and hostile nowwhite foriegners and their very nasty spawn on our American Soil-to the resolution of the IQ test score psychometric debate is an act of tactical stupidity whose brutal consequence is the very rapid rapid race-replacement of the Native Born White American Majority.

    I have yet to come across a compelling agument as to why an intense focus…year after year…on IQ test score pcychometrics is crucual to the Native Born White American Patriot Revolt against race-replacement.

  • Tucker

    It occurs to me that one the primary reasons why the Cultural Marxist, virulently anti-White left is so hysterically opposed to allowing any mainstream discussion of race and IQ is because they fear it will interfere with their agenda to genocide White European people.

    Not wanting to assign more credit than is due, to the average intelligence level of today’s trendy and fashion obsessed ‘white females’, but something tells me that even the dimmest bulbs among them might think twice about following the media’s relentless encouragement to hop into bed with black males, if these IQ disparities ever became well known and widely discussed in the mainstream.

    After all, Mother Nature tends to program the females of all species to want to breed with only the best, brightest, and strongest males of their species – as a built-in, biologically driven, and instinctive method of helping the off-spring of those females to have the highest possible probability of survival.

    I mean, who in their right mind wants to breed down the evolutionary totem pole?

    Unless, of course, they’ve been brainwashed with the false ideas of perfect racial equality and don’t know the real score.

  • JJCULLEN

    You don’t need a degree to know most blacks have low IQs

  • josh

    All of you philo-semites have you at last begun to see the light dimly penetrating the fatty globule that fills your skull? This is not America;this is some weird throwback to a rabbinical religous cockamamie nutjob ruling committee. Mexican immigrants are obviously of lower IQ,the tests priove what we cans ee with our own eyes,but “religous” feeling–all men are equal in the eyes of the Jews–overrides reality,and punishes heretics.Damn Harvard–where white men are not welcomed.

  • Dom

    Liberal inquisition, heirs of medieval talibans.

  • Ella

    These Dinosaur Institutions want to “punish” Whites for our progress and mistakes in the past as part of this collective mentality. Our Constitution forbids condemning descendants by “Corruption of Blood.” If our country is SO oppressive under “tyrannical” White rule, we have Nonwhite illegals waiting in Canada and Norway to cross into USA.

    Who is the Govt. and academia trying to kid? You talk about gate keepers of information. Will Harvard retract his Ph.D next with multiple P.C. apologies? Will they fire the Professors who approved Richwine’s dissertation and then, passed him after his Doctoral Oral Comprehensive Exam?

    • Jane Johnson

      Harvard is a joke these days. With all their A.A. admissions and special ed tutoring they’re not much better than a “Historically Black College”, and their degrees are highly suspect. True, every now and then, a truly deserving candidate receives a doctorate, but for the most part degrees are awarded for simply conforming to Marxist ideology.

      • Morris LeChat

        This is very true. My brother in law got a phd there, even though he never got an undergraduate degree. HIs thesis was total crap that a high school student could have written. When we went to the graduation ceremony we saw the list of PHD thesis , I remember they all sounded bogus but the one that sticks out in my mind was titled “the dinner conversation in a Korean American Household”… seriously. And they had all this pomp and self indulgence and they were all so pleased with themselves for “belonging” to the elite educated class with their little pieces of papers. They were all phonies, they were all idiots, it was all a sham.

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  • IKantunderstand

    We have entered into a new period. The Endarkenment. Yeah, I know, I just made that up. But, it seems to fit. We seem to be at 180 from the Enlightenment. And frankly, “The Endarkenment” seems to fit at so many levels.

  • Candidhandle

    tWhy are there no Mules running in the Kentucky Derby, and Why no Donkeys, and for the race pimps, Why no Zebras running in the Kentucky Derby???

    Discrimination?? Betters do no want to bet on the best????

    Must be Voodoo Molecular Hate of The Caucasoids, Infecting The Brothas.
    Yeaa. That’s The Ticket.

  • casimcea

    When someone commits a crime we don’t send his genetically compatible tribe to jail, just the individual. Race or ANY collective markers are vehicles of justifying violence either directly or indirectly through taxation.

    • paendragon

      Amazingly, your applicable post (quote on government slavery from Robert LeFevre at the Orange County Register on Sunday Feb 6th. 1983 ) on the other article just got deleted and censored by this site!