Tawana Brawley Served with Court Order to Pay Man She Accused of Rape in 1987

Chuck Bennett, New York Post, January 31, 2013

Infamous hoaxster Tawana Brawley—whose outrageous rape lie 25 years ago inflamed racial tensions nationwide—yesterday was finally slapped with a court order to settle a hefty defamation case against her.

“For at least 25 years, she has been living a major lie,” said former Dutchess County prosecutor Steven Pagones, who was falsely accused of raping Brawley in 1987 and finally tracked her down, thanks to The Post.

“To me, this has always been about responsibility and accountability,” added the former ADA, who won the $190,000 defamation lawsuit against Brawley, 40, now a nurse in Virginia, more than a decade ago.

At 9 percent interest, that debt, which Brawley never attempted to pay off, now totals $431,492, according to the wage-garnishment papers filed in Virginia’s Surry County Court.

Brawley—whose unbelievable lies made the Rev. Al Sharpton a household name as he bombastically championed her cause—had changed her name and moved down South in the years since she was exposed.

Tawana Brawley

Tawana Brawley

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But The Post finally found Brawley last month, effectively leading Pagones and his lawyer to her.

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According to Pagones’ lawyer, Garry Bolnick, the single mom’s wages could be docked 10 to 25 percent per paycheck as retribution for her lies.

Pagones said he might waive his entitled windfall—if Brawley finally ‘fesses up.

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“If she is not going to tell the truth, then it is about the money. That is the only way to hold her accountable,” said Pagones, who is now principal owner of a private investigations firm.

But Pagones said he wonders if Sharpton will again try to rush to her aid and bail her out.

“I’ve got to believe since he is primarily responsible for all the damage done, I would think he would come to her aid. That’s what I expect,” Pagones said.

Seemingly a lifetime ago, a 15-year-old Brawley of Wappingers Falls in Dutchess County was found in a trash bag covered in feces with the words “n-—- -r” and “bitch” scrawled upside down on her body and “KKK” carved into her shoe.

Sharpton, still relatively unknown outside New York City, and lawyers Alton Maddox and C. Vernon Mason, immediately took up her cause as she claimed she was attacked by a gang of white men, including Pagones.

When 28-year-old Fishkill Police Officer Harry Crist Jr., committed suicide a week later—likely over a romantic breakup and failing the New York State Police exam—Sharpton and his allies used the incident to accuse Crist of participating in the rape.

When Pagones, a friend of Crist, offered an alibi for his besmirched dead friend, he found himself accused of raping Brawley nearly three dozen times.

After a year of hell, a grand jury found Brawley’s accusations without any merit. She likely fabricated the story because she feared her stepfather’s wrath for staying out late, according to the grand-jury evidence.

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  • HadEnough

    Now we’re talking. Happy days! Now, if we can just slap a similar law suit on the ghastly Sharpton, then this will be a Black History Month worth celebrating.

  • SFLBIB

    Over 25 years ago, the feminazis were trying to get the standard of proof for rape lowered to essentially the alleged victim’s word … period. No cross-examination allowed. When men objected on the grounds that someone could be falsely accused, the feminazis told us that “women don’t lie about rape.”

    • NorthernWind

      Which is sad because women do lie about it, more often then we think. Feminists are vile things, I’ve never met one that I liked.

      • Daisy

        Fewer women lie about it than men actually do it, if for no other reason because it’s easier for men to get away with raping than for women to get away with proving false allegations. Either posture is vile.

        • Boereseun

          Well of course there are more rapes than false allegations, the figure will always be lower, unless every women lies about in which case the reported cases would equal the false allegations. The point is that feminists lied once again to get laws passed that harm innocent men. They lied by stating that women do not lie about rape and therefore there is no such thing as a false allegation concerning rape. Which is false, stop defending that which is blatantly false. Do you hate men or something?

          • brengunn

            Do you hate men or something?

            She had a fair point. You’re being a bit defensive.

          • Boereseun

            She calls me a women hater for bringing this kind of stuff up because it’s women bashing.

          • brengunn

            I didn’t see her call you a woman hater. She made a factual point and you criticized her for something unrelated.

          • Anglokraut

            You do have a reputation for woman bashing.

          • Boereseun

            I have a reputation for having a fear of being falsely accused. Seems I might be right about that. Woman accuses, I’m guilty as charged.

            And you have a reputation for despising men because you are childless.

          • Anglokraut

            You also have a reputation for being highly aggressive and antagonistic towards anyone who disagrees with you. I, at least, humored you for a bit, but you just bring a conversation down to a base, gender-war, hate-filled level. So maybe you got screwed by an ex-wife, girlfriend, or have been friend-zoned by a woman you have a “thing” for. Maybe you think that mommy didn’t love you and hug you enough. Okay. You can have those issues all you want. But air it out with a therapist. Your vitriol only repels the women that this movement needs to survive. And White Nationalism needs White women, or there are no White children.

          • Boereseun

            None of those things.

            What part of “I have a fear of being falsely accused of a crime I didn’t commit.” don’t you understand? A good way to live one’s life is to be able to mitigate risk of certain fears to acceptable levels. However, there is no way to mitigate the risk of suffering the damage of false accusations beyond not interacting with women. Even in that case, as the above shows, you can still be falsely accused simply for being a man.

            Do you think I don’t have a point about false accusations of rape? Do you think the man in the article got off easy? Do you feel any empathy for your white brothers at all? I’m not a White Nationalist, I believe in Nationalism and country States. Any movement needs a strong leader and people will follow, both men and women. No one needs to pander to any sex.

            No Nation or movement will survive the insufferable chorus of bores that are feminists. White nations around the world prove it. It doesn’t matter if you have a womb and men don’t, if no white men want to actually use your womb.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Rabid Feminists are not trustworthy. They’re coming from a ‘place of anger’ and hatred toward men. I believe they have psychological problems that they need a movement to negotiate for them.

          • Boereseun

            Well, they do have one point about me correct. I get angry over this specific issue and of the rampant divorce rate. However, they take that anger and think it’s because I hate women rather than at least trying to see the issue from my perspective.

            I cannot spell it out more clearly than this. I don’t want to rape a woman, ever. My arguments are not about whether rape is right or wrong, man hating or woman hating, but about ‘rape laws’. I come from a country with an incredibly high rape rate, do they think I don’t see that or know that?

            What I get fearful of is when the State, backed by feminists and other victim groups, make extreme laws that affect my ability to enjoy my freedom. That is my fear. If Daisy, the Kraut and others cannot see that, I’m sorry, but I cannot just keep quiet to appease them.

            And yes, rabid feminists are cruel and heartless, the problem is that their poison seeps into the lives of the rest of us.

          • World_War_Me

            well said.

          • Daisy

            Funny, I’ve had the same thoughts about many men who flock to a ‘movement’ to salve their psychological problems and anger issues which cause them to fail in their relationships with women…

            I grew up with men, as a competitive swimmer I was surrounded by them from the time I was four. Coaches, teammates, lifeguards, you name it. A study showed that they are the least violent of any sub-category of men in America (a well-known feminist found this in the midst of an argument we were having about sexism and it’s etiology, which to me isn’t in men but in society and the class system. I ended the friendship because she wouldn’t contemplate that white men, or women, were not priveleged.) Feminists who sought balance in their relationships with men were not all angry and hateful, nor are all men who strive to live in peace with women. I’d hardly call Michael Phelps ‘weak;’ I’d definitely call men who wander around fearing imminent disaster from any and all women highly neurotic. I lived through tremendous violence from males (however equally orchestrated by females) for a period of my life but it didn’t embitter me or make me paranoid. To this day my best friends are all straight males with whom I am not involved sexually in any way nor ever have been.

          • saxonsun

            And their male counterparts are even more dangerous.

          • josh

            Yes so true,and being a spineless male feminist is SO attractive to the 2nd sex!

          • Katherine McChesney

            Boereseum doesn’t need to air it out with a therapist. That’s another problem with people today…paying to talk with someone when they can solve their problem themselves. Many therapists are highly unqualified to be consulted. Jacques Lacan exposed them for being more for themselves than they are the patient. In other words their survival is more important than the patient.
            Besides you seem to have problems yourself.

          • Anglokraut

            I never claimed to be faultless. I’ve noticed (in this comment thread) that where Boereseun goes, you are not far behind, backing him up. I’m not even going to speculate the whys of this. Just pointing it out.

          • Katherine McChesney

            You’re deluded. Your accusation is childish. Are you playing professional victim? Another thing I’ve noticed about some women is how dramatic they are, how emotional they become when someone disagrees with them.

          • Daisy

            I’ve noticed that rape is equally orchestrated by jealous, insecure females as it is acted out directly by their male counterparts.

          • SFLBIB

            Well, yes. There is a double standard. You have to understand that to Leftists, the morality of a person is judged not by his ACTIONS but by whether he belongs to a group that supports the “correct” political causes, which Bill does, at least superficially. An ordinary man, on the other hand, is not perceived by the feminazis as being a member of that favored group.

          • Anglokraut

            I really don’t care what you think. Not even a little bit. I learned a long time ago to just not talk to people like you. So, much like Daisy, I’m not replying to anything else in this thread.

          • anonymous_amren

            No movement has ever needed women. Women have always gone where men have led, it’s in their nature. Women are like North East Asians. They are smart and capable, yet their instinct and personality is to go along with things without making a fuss, rather than leading movements.

          • Anglokraut

            Movements may not need women, but species sure do. Isn’t that one of the big themes of this website? the low White birthrate?

          • saxonsun

            Gender war?! That’s what you guys do here all the time. Don’t like it when women point out the truth, huh?

          • Jim G

            “it’s easier for men to get away with raping than for women
            to get away with proving false allegations.”

            You do not have to prove that you were raped to bring a man
            to trial for rape. You only have to get an obliging (feminist) prosecutor. Many men have been falsely accused and wrongly
            convicted of rape.

            There is no penalty for a woman that falsely accuses a man
            of raping her. What penalty did Tawana Brawley incur for her blatant lie about being raped?

            The classic case of false accusation is the Cathleen Crowell WebbGary Dotson rape affair.

            Cathleen Crowell Webb was a typical young woman and as such
            she easily succumbed to the temptation to wrongly accuse a man of raping
            her. She ruined the life of Gary Dotson.

            Men cannot depend on his fellow man to rescue them for false accusations. The feminist bullied the gutless wimp Illinois governor James R. Thompson to needlessly prolong Dotson’s suffering.

          • George White

            I agree that women have total power in this situation. If a woman even insinuates that a man has engaged in any form of sexual “harassment”, the guy is hung out to dry. There might well be rapes that go unreported, but men’s lives are destroyed by false allegations of rape. I know a teacher who drank himself to death after a false allegation. The man was totally innocent, but the pressures of the case killed him. The feminists have subverted the rule of law and women are now favored in any dispute. In divorce cases, women get the kids AND the house AND the bulk of the man’s earnings. INSANITY.

          • Joseph

            You bring up a different -and much more likely scenario -“sexual harassment”. Rape has a much more definite physical/legal definition. “Harrassment” is so vague and the standard of proof therefore much easier that it is much more popular complaint and I think you are right. A career and/or family relationships can be ended just because a “victim” felt “intimidated”. We were plainly told in one of the feminazi presentations at work that: “Harassment is in the eye of the beholder”. Period. It is presented such that there is no outside measure by which harassment might be judged. There was no suggestion of a “prudent person” evaluation standard.

            This however, is different than a false rape accusation but might be just as handy to the vindictive adversary -maybe a female coworker who wants to eliminate some competition -or even one whose own sexual advances were rebuffed.

          • Johnny Clay

            I’ve known men who lost their jobs because of “sexual harassment,” when all they did was ask a woman out on a date twice.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Never, ever ask out a co-worker. My old thinking was that if it didn’t work out, we’d still have to (awkwardly) work together, and if it did work out, the inevitable office gossip would lead to accusations of non-professionalism at one or both of us. I decided that over 20 years ago; it’s probably even more valid today.

            Never even attempt to “mentor” a younger woman underling at work. In a professional setting, a few women are obsessively hostile and so immensely destructive that all should basically be treated as kryptonite in the office or lab. I was once so busy trying to meet our R&D partners’ expectations of the “pie-in-the-sky” promises one of my bosses kept giving them that I simply had no time at all to bring the gal – a freshly-minted B.S. in chemistry – up to speed. She should have been doing this part-time during summers after her sophomore and junior years as an undergrad. I was called onto the carpet for “ignoring” her, by the same boss who’d put me behind the 8-ball on project milestones, and who had hired her precisely because they were both Brazilians. Once I was caught up and showing her the more routine processes I had developed, she asked things like “How did you know this would work?” I got a white-board for my office, and tried to teach her. Back to the CEO’s office a few weeks later – people were starting to talk. A wise fellow just won’t do this to himself, because a man just can not win.

            Don’t even ask female co-workers for favors, like a ride to the auto shop to pick up your own car after work.

            All of this run at reflux temperature overnight means the “glass ceiling” is firmly in place, because at the end of the reaction workup, lots of women don’t want to be “one of the guys”, too many other people assign ulterior motives to everything but the glassware wash sink, and the resulting witch’s brew is toxic.

            Be polite, be professional, and be careful, because unemployment today often means you will lose your house.

          • Daisy

            No offense meant but you have stated that you are a convicted felon. I’m not interested in debating the merits of that conviction but merely pointing out that that makes you a liability civilly for any corporation to allow to get to close to a female ‘underling.’ Maybe you were too extreme in either direction, or maybe it was just bad timing, but the fact is that’s a pragmatic reality any company would need to consider.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            One of the many reasons why I refuse to work a regular job.

          • convairXF92

            “Mentoring” a younger (or single) woman underling is not a problem in modern tech companies (i.e., came into existence post-Netscape). In fact it would be offensive to even hint that such might be a problem.

            Some older, traditional-engineering companies though–it’s as you describe.

          • Daisy

            No means no! If this man was her boss he deserved to be fired. If not, he deserved to be taught how to conduct himself professionally.

          • Katherine McChesney

            That’s odd….your knowing two men who asked a woman out on a date twice. Somehow, that statement doesn’t ring true.

          • Johnny Clay

            I should’ve clarified. I don’t have first-hand knowledge of those guys, but that was the word going around.

          • KevinPhillipsBong

            Watch the movie Oleanna. Highly recommended.

          • seek

            It’s based on David Mamet’s play. And I think he directed it as well.

          • Daisy

            I’m sincerely interested in exactly what the pressures of a false allegation that doesn’t succeed in criminal court consist of. My father is one of the top 3 ranked matrimonial lawyers in one of the most densely populated states and I can assure you that women are not ‘favored in any dispute’ by any measure be it fiscal, custodial/parental, etc., in the court system.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Daisy, that is an untruth. I’ve read of judges who favored women over men no matter the claim. In Murfreesboro, Tenn. there is a female judge who has it in for men. She’s famous for bankrupting men with her unfair awards of child support. I’ve also heard of a male judge who sides with men and awards the woman very little in child support.
            Your sweeping generality is a lie.

          • Daisy

            My parents were both attorneys and practiced for a short time together. One well-known judge in matrimonial cases *always* took the side of the woman. It was just a well-known fact, but that is one anecdote my mother noticed. Overall my generality is that what my father, who represented both men and women over many many years, told me: there was a fairly even playing field in the context of divorce court in his state.

          • saxonsun

            Amazing! Have you never heard of men who have it in for women?! It happens.

          • Joseph

            Rapes are actually quite common historically. False accusations are at least arguably *less common*. One problem I think, is that so many people are so promiscuous that many rapes are unreported because the gradations of “coercion” or “force” is not black-and-white therefore some women likely -and sometimes possibly rightly believe that they are not without some responsibility in the event so do not want to make a criminal complaint. On the other hand, you have these women who simply out of retribution claim rape against someone due to infidelity or some other perceived wrong after the fact. The lines become quite blurred between consent and coercion particularly where you have individuals with a long and possibly sordid sexual history. For this reason the sexual histories are always sought to be presented -or hidden, depending upon whether one is the defendant or the accuser.

            There is mischief on both sides but I think that the overwhelming historical documentation of rape does dwarf the false accusations for monetary gain or revenge motives.

            You are much more likely to commit rape without punishment than to be falsely accused for same. Then too, a guilty conscience needs no accuser.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            “You are much more likely to commit rape… than to be falsely accused for same.”

            Wrong. The chance that I will rape someone is exactly zero. “Yes” means “yes”. Any answer other than an affirmative should be construed as “no”. This is not complicated stuff.

          • Joseph

            You are one case. You are statistically insignificant and YOU are the only one who would assign a “zero” probability of rape to you -with all due respect.

            In the same way that you make generalizations about black behavior based on statistics of large numbers over history, I make generalizations about behavior of the sexes based on large numbers over history. This is not complicated stuff.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Certainly, but this statistic is the only one of which over I have control.

            Since we are able to differentiate between individuals before they are subsumed into the group at large, am I evil for which of the following reasons?

            I am a conservative.

            I liked firearms when I was allowed them.

            I am on the Terrorist Watch List.

            I am a convicted violent federal felon.

            I am “white” and married to a Japanese woman.

            I am 3/16 Amerind and thus not completely “white”.

            I was never baptised.

            I do not pray to “god”.

            Joseph has hit the nail on the head: we are each individuals, and now we return to the main argument. Black male individuals decide on their own and for themselves that they will rape white female individuals.

            I have decided something for myself as well, that this shall be stopped, by any means necessary, one individual at a time.

          • Daisy

            You’re wrong in that an accuser does have to prove they were raped to bring a man to trial. Brawley didn’t get past a grand jury, which meant that there was no trial. Further, the grand jury did not just find Crist and whoever else could have been falsely accused not guilty, they found him innocent by reason of Brawley’s unquestionable guilt. You cite one example of a very old (as in before DNA testing was available) single anecdote which means nothing if you can’t relate it to a larger pattern. Ironically Webb, not unlike Brawley, was motivated out of fear not of rejection as so many on here seem to want to see all women struggling epically to control, but of what could be seen as an anti-female world. She became pregnant yet had no options as a very young girl living in foster care. I wouldn’t be surprised if you also feel entitled to tell girls and women they can’t control their own womb. My response to that would be to tell you to simply not have sex with them.

            Some on here claim Pagones’ ‘whole life’ was ruined by a false accusation that was proven rigorously and unequivocally false before it even got out of the gate. That is ridiculous. Pagones didn’t lose his wife because of this and to try to claim that is so overwrought and distortionist that it says more about the personal issues of those claiming it than it does anything about the larger picture of the problems surrounding discerning between real and imagined rapes.

          • Boereseun

            They most certainly do not have to prove they were raped. They just have to ‘prove’ that rape could have happened, that the other person was with them at the time of the supposed rape and that sexual penetration occured.

            The point of the Grand Jury, as my understanding of the American Legal System goes, is that it’s there to flush out obscenely ridiculous and meaningless cases so as not to burden the rest of the Justice System. It does not prove guilt or innocent in anyway at all.

            Listen, trying to argue with you is pointless. Lots of men here have tried to advise you as to why this is a major issue to us. It doesn’t mean we think every women is out to get us. The problem though is it only takes ONE women to falsely accuse. Instead of trying to see reason, you mock, distort, throw some very suspect comments at people, analyse the mental state and well being of the person you’re arguing with, trying to make them out as a pathetic loser, and then expect others to engage you with kid gloves.

            His life was ruined, this is not up for debate. He lost his job, his family and everything else. Take the case out of it and he would probably still have his job but would have probably been promoted. If there were any issues with his wife, they could have been sorted out, not that you’ve actually proven that there were issues with his wife anyway but you want to make a man guilty so you just assume.

            To you, Pagones was a women hater, an adulterer, some lowlife as that is the only reason his wife would have left him. Not because she couldn’t stand the thought of being with a rapist caused by his being falsely accused.

            You’re right though, you and I have nothing in common.

          • Jim G

            You’re wrong in that an accuser does have to prove
            they were raped to bring a man to trial.

            No you’re wrong. All that is needed is a prosecutor like Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno. When you have a man hating feminist as
            prosecutor the innocent man is a man and therefore ipso facto guilty.

            Add to this the infamous plea bargaining system wherein the feminist
            can add on some child molestation and unsolved rape cases to the charges, and the man is looking at life, (a short life), in prison or pleading guilty to what he didn’t do.

            Yes women have to be on guard against being raped, but the
            American the legal system supports the woman victim and everyone sympathizes with her plight.

            What is unjust is that men have to be equally on guard against
            being falsely accused of rape but, as in the classic Gary Dotson case, the America the legal system cripples the falsely accused victim and everyone scorns him.

            Here is a true story. Years ago John Belushi did a tasteless skit on Saturday Night Live mocking the Rape Crises Centers where rape victims can get emotional help. Belushi had a Rape Crises Center for the rapist.

            I knew a woman at that time that told me she was very upset by
            the skit because she was raped. She left home at 19 and lived in an apartment where a fat loser of a man living in the same apartment building raped her.

            I asked her why she didn’t go to the police and she said that he told her that if she did he would kill her. I felt that I would like to take a baseball
            bat to the guy.

            She had a traumatic experience, but she survived and has a
            good husband and two wonderful children.

            Compare that to the life of Gary Dotson.

          • methinks he doth protest too much

          • Boereseun

            Probably but only a fool thinks nothing bad happens in a world full of wolves.

          • Daisy

            Okay, this is the last time I’m going to respond to any comments by you on this thread or related ones for at least a *long* time. I did not call you a misogynist for bringing ‘this stuff up’ but because you are on record for denying that a girl or woman could be sexually assaulted or raped by a man she simply knows in any capacity. That and for making utterly vulgar and disrespectful comments about women, their body parts, etc. Technically the poster who ‘brought this stuff up’ on what’s now become a three-threaded ‘debate’ is another poster entirely, who did not make such an outrageous claim.

          • Boereseun

            Where am I on record for denying a girl or woman could be sexually assaulted or raped by a man she simply knows in any capacity? This is a blatant falsehood. Put up or shut up. Amren can also put up the supposed comment if they deleted it, this has got to stop.

            I said that if you twist the definition of rape to such extremes you make rape laws into a joke and therefore believing women who claim rape becomes difficult. I didn’t condone rape or say that women cannot be raped by strangers nor raped by people they know. This is beyond absurd.

          • anonymous_amren

            Political correctness is always beyond absurd. That’s what happens when people are banned from the normal criticism of ideas. The ideas just become more and more absurd.

          • Tom_in_Miami

            We need to have unity on this site if we are going to stand up to the forces that are allied against us. This seems simple to me, Daisy said “Fewer women lie about it than men actually do it…” and that is her opinion. We don’t have to agree, but it’s destructive to the purpose of this site to make a big issue out of whether the opinion is valid or not. Let’s stick together.

        • Anon

          This issue is extremely obvious. White men do not commit rape. Non-white men commit rape. In any society that is near 100% white, the crime of rape (and basically all other violent crime) falls into the undetectable range. This is why our government comingles crime stats of whites and hispanics (and many other non-whites treated as white).

          So, strictly from a statistical view, simply look at the accused. Is he white? Yes? Then it’s most likely a lie. Is he non-white? That’s probably a rapist.

        • Anon

          This issue is extremely obvious. White men do not commit rape. Non-white men commit rape. In any society that is near 100% white, the crime of rape (and basically all other violent crime) falls into the undetectable range. This is why our government comingles crime stats of whites and hispanics (and many other non-whites treated as white).

          So, strictly from a statistical view, simply look at the accused. Is he white? Yes? Then it’s most likely a lie. Is he non-white? That’s probably a rapist.

          • Daisy

            White men are entirely capable of raping.

          • Agreed, and I’m sure white men have committed rape.

            I am capable of rape and murder. But I have neither raped nor murdered anyone.

            Because of my profession (even though I’m not engaged in it right now), I’m far more capable than the typical person reading these words of embezzlement. But I have never committed that crime.

            What people of capable of doing and what people actually do are two different things.

          • Brenda

            Exactly!

          • Edna

            True. Strom Thurmond engaged in stauatory rape when he had sex with Casie Mae Weems and had a child by her, a Black child nonetheless!

          • Was just talking about Strom to a friend today. What a great Democratic leader he was. To quote Strom, “I had relations with women of several races, the penis knows no bigotry.”

          • Luca

            Actually the child was mulatto.

          • Rick

            Mulatto means mixed race. Usually mulatto people are considered Black..

          • Any person with one drop of black blood is considered black.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Mulatto means a mix of black and white. Mestizo means a mix of Amerind and white (in Canada, they are “Metis”, which means the same thing.) Zambos are black and Amerind (like Hugo Chavez). Happas are Eurasians. I don’t know what the term for a cross between an East Asian and a negro is. I also don’t know what a partly aboriginal Australian is called; the only one I knew had red hair and freckles.

            The current occupant of the “White” House is a mulatto, but he called himself “black” on his census return. This suggests to me that a half-black is black and even our President knows it.

            The cheese gets a bit more binding where Amerinds are concerned. Winston Churchill was partly Amerind, on his American mother’s side. I’m 3/16 Amerind, so I only have to shave every other day. When I became a completely aware racialist, I had to make a decision, and that was whether or not to marry a white woman, and I suspect lots of folks wouldn’t like it if I did that. What if I had married one and didn’t tell her? I could pass for completely white, but this would be dishonest. Some of you folks are good at making enemies, but you could use a few allies, as could I.

          • Anna

            There is a book “At The Dark End of The Street” wiritten by Danielle McGuire that looks extensively at White male rape of Black women. It has been critically praised and and has won all sorts of awards.

          • SFLBIB

            The Sokal Affair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair , that had to do with a paper written by an academic who used all the liberal buzzwords to get it critiqued and published in a supposed academic publication, also received peer-group praise. After it was published, he admitted it was a fraud that he cooked up to prove any cockamamie theory could be published if you used the politically correct terminology.

          • Joseph

            Yes, but then so has “Roots” and that is a fabrication too.

          • [Guest]

            For what it’s worth, I’ll add that the esteemed black scholar and literary figure Alex Haley plagiarized “Roots” primarily from the novel “The African,” which was written by a white man. He got sued and paid out $650,000 for that literary fraud.

            What’s interesting is that the lying thief—literature’s equivalent to Al Sharpton—is still revered in some quarters.

          • Luca

            I like the part in the TV series where the Mandingo are portrayed as clean, civilized, simple, innocent people with a highly developed culture. No portrayal of butchery, cannibalism, baboon worship, witch doctors, drunkenness, polygamy, thievery, lack of sanitation, no written language, no cultivation etc. etc etc. Mere oversights I’m sure.

          • World_War_Me

            Wow! I did not know that. Thanks for mentioning that. I mean, I knew Roots is fiction, but I didn’t know Haley plagiarized it from my white man. That’s is good to know and I can’t wait to use it on somebody deserving, like a blowhard DWL academic.

          • Joseph

            Well, look, we have so many famous modern black fictional/fiction writers -King, Haley, Obama.

          • Anna

            The difference between Roots and Ms. McGuire’s book is that She has decades of court documents, newspaper and magazine accounts and documented confessions that prove her argument and provide legitimacy to her spellbinding book.

          • Joseph

            The blacks are noted for their spells.

          • gemjunior

            I agree their spells are probably responsible for that flim flam. Everyone knows most rapists rape within their race, except blacks who of course do everything wrong. My favorite spell is the one where they throw the chicken guts all over the place and the bones give them a secret message. It’s too sophisticated for us white people to learn, so we must be content with scientific means such as satellite etc. Also the one where they all mush their faces around in the cows butt like animals (I didn’t believe it either till I saw it), and rub the cow urine all over their hair. Yup. That is one impressive spell. The video is in Russian, called “Shocking Africa” and shows the amazing level of civilization they have achieved….

          • Daisy

            Tthere’s a book I came upon recently titled ‘White Women Bleed’ or something similar that documents black violence I think particularly against white people in the US, with a significant part devoted to black-on-white female violence.

          • White Girl Bleed a Lot by Colin Flaherty, a WND columnist whose writings often appear here at AR.

          • George White

            Yes, that book is a REAL eye opener, and kryptonite for liberals.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            Obviously based on recent history.
            /sarc

          • Unperson

            FBI stats, year after year, maintain an annual white-on-black rape rate in the single digits. Never more than 10 per year. Some years zero. Averages around five or six. Yes, that’s for all 50 states put together.

            As opposed to a black-on-white rape rate never under 30,000.

            This is why when you hear about something like the Duke Lacrosse case, you should be immediately suspciously, as those three white boys’ one night with Crystal Magnum would have represented (at least) 30% of the annual number of such rapes for the entire USA.

            That is, IF the Duke assault happened, which of course it didn’t.

            Similarly, the Tawana Brawley hoax, in which four white men were accused, would have been 40% of the national total for its year back when.

            So when you say that this book “looks extensively at White male rape of Black women,” I remind you that any book on this subject can only be as “extensive” as the subject itself — and an annual rate in the single digits isn’t very extensive. In fact, it’s not even enough for a proper scientific sampling.

            By contrast, the black-on-white rape rate is PLENTY big enough to study properly. But of course there’s no money or glory in pointing out the faults of black people, only those of white people. That’s why we see books with titles like “At The Dark End of The Street” and not with titles like “Why Dontavious Can’t Keep It In His Pants.”

          • Guest

            Wow.

          • Guest

            Your entirely capable of making a false accusation.

          • josh

            Daisy you may have detected a slight difference in the level of civilization between whites and say,the Bantu. Cause theyre different! Wow! THats not so hard to understand. Theyre vastly different in the way they act re sex,with “men” of color much more likely to commit rape,molest young people,and engage in God forbid!1 male to male rape. We’re worlds apart. If you cant see that,something wrong witchoo!! BTW YKW are notorious rapists. Its very common for YKW girls to be raped by the YKW boys,but its covered up. I know of several cases first hand.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            White women are entirely capable of stabbing men in their necks. One of my friends has been locked up for the last 12 years for having been stabbed in the neck. He wasn’t a rapist or even a woman-hitter. He was a software engineer who’s girlfriend was an ex meth-head. Since this was state stuff, he’ll come up for parole for having been stabbed in the neck. My mother was able to untangle what the stabber had done to his bank account; he was innocent.

          • Daisy

            How was your friend locked up for being stabbed in the neck? Sounds fishy to me.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            It did to me at first as well.

            Luis got 37 years for being stabbed in the neck. He’s at the Colorado state penitentiary at Sterling

          • Katherine McChesney

            White women have raped men.

          • Let me get some of what you are smoking. White men are very capable of rape. Look at Sandusky, Bundy, Gacy, Dennis Rader, Joel Rifkin, the list goes on.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Yes, but “for instance” is not “proof”.

          • So you think white men can’t rape as well? you are welcome to your opinion.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Well Joel, I’m pretty sure you might be able to force yourself on an unwilling woman who was terrified of you, after you’d slapped her around a bit. What I said with my statistical analysis is that we don’t rape black women.

          • Just white chicks and litle kids right? And what stats?

          • What’s up with all the venom? I say something you dont agree with and you go into attack mode. I didnt accuse you of raping anyone, but that’s the first place you went. Far right or far left, the attacks are the same I’ve noticed.

          • George White

            Blacks rape 25,000 white women per year on average. In the same one year period, white men rape approximately five black women. So, white on black rape is insignificant, rare, and not remotely a problem.

          • Joseph

            Yes, but in a country where a total 350 rifle involving homicides is the basis for banning entire classes of weapons based on appearance, this isn’t remotely relevant to the people with an ulterior motive.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            But at those incredibly disparate rates? Really, Joel?

          • Michael_C_Scott

            This “ulterior motive” could easily produce 40 million rifle-involved homicides before we have the gas chambers for industrial-scale murder built. This has been done before.

            “You will have much more difficulty pushing me back from here, General Woundwort.”
            –Douglas Adams

          • White rapists tend to hunt within their own.

          • Daisy

            Unfortunately white women tend to be targets of all races. I’ve noticed that when various ethnicities/races are mixed together it’s always white, and northwestern european women who become foci of aggression by the group as a whole.

          • Since there are more white women than there are women of color, it makes numerical sense that they are victimized more often. I’m not saying it’s right or ok, it just is what it is.

          • Daisy

            That’s not the context I am speaking of. I noticed that when various ethnicities are present that white, *northwestern european* become the scapegoats, particularly blonde or in my own case redheaded ones. But this is in situations where their own ethnicity is not the majority and often maybe italians or jews or both make up some plurality. When I lived in Pennsylvania I was in an ethnic majority as a northwestern/northern european and it was like going home.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            I believe we can go even farther, Mr. White. Dividing five by 25,000, we get 1/5000, or 0.0002. This is 0.02 percent: in other words, statistically irrelevant.

            “Anyone who can not cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house.”
            –Robert A. Heinlein

          • Luca

            Did you mean to say “subhuman” or sub-“Saharan?” Or are they interchangeable? (sarcasm)

          • Anglokraut

            I like that quote–I’d wear that quote on a shirt!

          • Michael_C_Scott

            If you’re interested in one, shop around in your area for a T-shirt shop that can silk-screen the lettering. I’m pretty certain one can buy blank iron-on decal stock that will work with a computer printer. There’s a pretty good B&W photo of Heinlein in his Wikipedia article you could use with a white shirt, or else you could hunt around farther online for a color picture of him you like. Presto!

          • Lygeia

            Actually, the black women were mixed race women living with the white men they accused of rape.

          • Joseph

            I would agree that statistically, WHITE against BLACK rape is almost nonexistent.

            The broader statement that “white men do not commit rape” is patently absurd.

            The only rapists that I actually know are whites. One, with three friends raped a white woman in this state though I have had no contact with him since long before that. Another, with whom I have spoken several times since, raped a woman in another state and makes no pretense of innocence. Both are now free but did some years of prison for the deeds, as they should have.

          • Andy

            I agree with you about the statistics, but there are exceptions. My sister was raped at gunpoint by a white man, and also by a Jewish man that thought she wanted it. She reported neither of these crimes, the first time because she didn’t think she could prove it and the second time because she felt she had been sending him mixed signals before (although she emphatically and repeatedly told him to stop at the time) and didn’t want to ruin his and his children’s lives.

          • Katherine McChesney

            ‘White men do not commit rape.’

            Where do you get your information?

        • Triarius

          I could write a book on this I swear. This has happened to a friend of mine, revenge from the ex. He was given the option of misdemeanor assault plea or face trial that would be life. He took the plea.

          A friend of the family that was a former Wayne County (SE Michigan) prosecutor talked to me about this years ago when this happened to my friend. He said false accusations are from 20-40%, with Wayne County around 40%. I know about a half dozen Wayne and Oakland county prosecutors, and God knows how many lawyers and they all agreed on this.

          Men are not even allowed in the CSC department of the prosecutor’s office, they are all lesbians, feminazis, etc. I personally know one that got artificial insimination and has no issue throwing innocent men in jail that works in Wayne county’s CSC dept. A lawyer told me she does not care and said, “he probably would have raped someone else”.

          The kick is that because my friend took the plea, his would count as a conviction, not a false accusation, so I have no idea the real number.

          Do men rape women more than women falsely claim? Yes, absolutely. Is the difference a large margin? I do not think so.

          The worst part is that I know a few girls from college that I know were raped and not one reported it. I could not even get them to give me a name, and yes I tried.

          It truly is a sad world and I am just getting my feet wet.

        • Triarius

          I could write a book on this I swear. This has happened to a friend of mine, revenge from the ex. He was given the option of misdemeanor assault plea or face trial that would be life. He took the plea.

          A friend of the family that was a former Wayne County (SE Michigan) prosecutor talked to me about this years ago when this happened to my friend. He said false accusations are from 20-40%, with Wayne County around 40%. I know about a half dozen Wayne and Oakland county prosecutors, and God knows how many lawyers and they all agreed on this.

          Men are not even allowed in the CSC department of the prosecutor’s office, they are all lesbians, feminazis, etc. I personally know one that got artificial insimination and has no issue throwing innocent men in jail that works in Wayne county’s CSC dept. A lawyer told me she does not care and said, “he probably would have raped someone else”.

          The kick is that because my friend took the plea, his would count as a conviction, not a false accusation, so I have no idea the real number.

          Do men rape women more than women falsely claim? Yes, absolutely. Is the difference a large margin? I do not think so.

          The worst part is that I know a few girls from college that I know were raped and not one reported it. I could not even get them to give me a name, and yes I tried.

          It truly is a sad world and I am just getting my feet wet.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            I try to emulate Billy Graham’s rule: Never be alone with a woman to whom I am not married. It isn’t always possible, but I do my best. Staying out of the wrong places and scrupulously following that rule at work, as well as as no touching, and no flirting are just good rules to follow nowadays. So how does one meet and marry? I don’t blame guys who advertise on Asian dating websites. Western feminists have brought this situation on themselves.

          • Sean

            That’s over the top. The internet does this to people.

            Take a deep breath and remember, most people aren’t out to get you.

            Unless they’re from the government.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            Fair enough, Sean. But once, just once, I complemented a female co-worker’s perfume, and asked her what it was called, thinking it’d make a nice gift for the missus. 2 days later, I was in front of an HR board to answer for sexual harassment. I think I’ll continue following my “over the top” rule. The internet did not do this to me. A feminazi man-hater did.

          • George White

            You said it man. Women pull these stunts in the workplace because they get nice fat checks for doing so. Companies get out the checkbook rather than deal with a lengthy trial, bad publicity, etc.

            This is a HUGE problem and goes under the radar.

          • SFLBIB

            In many cases, these “stunts” are a response to a poor performance rating.

          • SFLBIB

            In a prevention of sexual harassment class I was required to attend, I asked what was done to a woman who file false charges. “Nothing, because invariably she feels she was wronged in some way,” was the reply from the instructor.

            This policy is wrong on several accounts. First, it leaves judgment of what constitutes a crime up to the accused; second, as a result, reasonableness goes out the window.

            In another class [same topic], the instructor told of the time he was the object of a false charge. A student aid claimed he, the supervisor, said, “I love you” to her. Turns out, his office was on the other side of a partition, and he was talking to his wife on the phone.

          • Joseph

            “First, it leaves judgment of what constitutes a crime up to the accused;
            second, as a result, reasonableness goes out the window.”

            This is almost exactly what we were told by our (not surprisingly female) “sexual harassment” presenter. I guess if you are talking about say, a fishing trip, that could be construed as” harassment” by a woman so inclined. I say “woman” only because that was overwhelmingly the emphasis of the “class”.

          • World_War_Me

            Then why wear perfume to work? That seems so mutually exclusive to the “career-woman” feminist mindset. This was incredibly stupid and hypocritical of that woman.

            The purpose of wearing perfume (for me) is to smell and feel feminine and to attract positive attention from men (white men) while attending parties, during a date, or other social gatherings. Thus I do not wear perfume to work. However, if I did wear perfume to work for whatever reason, and a male co-worker complimented me on it, I would say, “thank you.”

            If wearing perfume doesn’t fit in the office place according to this woman’s feminist concept of “acceptable workplace behavior”, then don’t wear the f’n stuff!! It’s that simple!

            Humans’ sense of smell is a very important factor in the mating process, i.e., pheromones and what not. Perfume manufacturers I’m sure are onto this. Since I do not want to seduce my male coworkers, I do not wear perfume to work. Your female coworker is either a complete dolt or a real btch. Probably both.

          • Daisy

            I wouldn’t say ‘complete dolt’ given how much women are valued even in the workplace according to their ability to attract men sexually, but I happen to agree with the overall gist. Women do complain about their mixed signals sometimes and it’s not always their complete fault for sending them, but ‘equality’ means responsibility and taking the initiative for one’s own self-determination.

          • I thought “Billy Graham’s Rule” was to love blacks and Jews openly then behind closed doors with Richard Nixon in the White House make every N-word and J-word joke in the book all the while tape is running.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            I can’t speak to that particular rule since I, for one, do NOT love blacks, nor make any pretenses to doing so. But if your point is that saying how one really feels about them behind closed doors is bad, while pretending to care about them publicly, I’d imagine most of us fall into that category.

          • Joseph

            He makes a good point and it is a good rule without regard to Billy Graham or the crook.

            I make it a point never to be in an enclosed or non-public place with a woman or child of either gender -even if only for the benefit of passers-by who might see us emerge together and wrongly assume something untoward -or have an axe to grind. “An ounce of prevention…”

          • “An ounce of prevention?”

            Gee, I announce my particular means of “an ounce of prevention” last weekend here at AR, and half of you are ready to commit me to the rubber room.

          • Daisy

            You like to overdose on prevention and hyperbole; i would commit you to the ‘behaving kinda bratty’ room for some unspecified time, during which you would be required to participate in an intervention to regain your freedom. Afterwards your spiritual awakening would be celebrated with a candle-lit vigil organized by lesbians. Just say no to exaggeration!!!

          • Boereseun

            Your measures to ‘correct’ people sound awfully familiar to some well meaning leftists. You sure you don’t belong there?

          • Meanwhile, if you ever admit that a woman can lie about being raped, it will take a team of Clydesdales to drag you into it. It does not seem to me that you have even admitted to Tawana Brawley never being raped or sexually assaulted even in an AR article about Tawana Brawley.

          • Daisy

            Not only have I admitted that repeatedly on every thead related to this topic, but around a dozen comments below I began a post submitted *three days ago* with the words “Brawley’s lies…”

          • Joseph

            I can’t speak to that particular reference.

          • George White

            Yes, but….they were RIGHT!!!

          • They may have been. But when I was growing up, I was always told to assess people by their actions, not their words. I only make an issue of the fact that Nixon and Graham told each other N-word and J-word jokes in the White House to illustrate elitist hypocrisy. Otherwise, I judge Richard Nixon for his actions, i.e. applying the civil rights revolution that was “won” legislatively under the previous President (LBJ), administratively to the Federal bureaucracy and enforcement structures. As far as Billy Graham, to me, he was just another preacher, personally I find him about one iota better than hustlers like Al Sharpton, Martin Luther King, Jim Jones, Jimmy Swaggart, Rick Warren.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Billy Graham…the last few years has seen him renounce his former teachings. He’s become an apostate. Furthermore, I met a woman in Santa Monica who said she had an affair with him years ago. I don’t trust this man at all.

          • seek

            This is truly amazing. Nobody in the media would touch this story, even if confirmed.

          • Adam

            So that makes it true? Please!

          • Katherine McChesney

            I don’t like him because he’s an apostate. As for the woman who made the claim, perhaps she did, perhaps she didn’t. I didn’t know her well enough to pass judgement.

          • Seb

            What the hell is the J-word? Have you reached the age of 12?

          • Katherine McChesney

            There’s a woman in Santa Monica who claimed to have had an affair with Billy Graham.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            It’s still a good rule, even if her claim were true.

        • anonymous_amren

          You are still a brainwashed liberal. There’s hope for you yet because you visit sites like this, but only if we argue back rather than just caving in to your political correctness.

          I strongly suspect significantly more women lie about it than men actually do it. Your suggestion that women can’t get away with lying but men can get away with raping makes no sense.

          • World_War_Me

            “Your suggestion that women can’t get away with lying but men can get away with raping makes no sense.”

            EXCELLENT point. I couldn’t agree more.

          • Daisy

            Except that I never said that. That’s where most of the discussions on this issue derail. More people are probably capable of listening/reading correctly, but somehow the fringe types ramp up emotions and then posters in general start fighting with their ideas or projections of what someone else said. I did say it’s easier for a man to rape in many situations than it is for a woman to successfully prosecute at all, much less on the basis of a false accusation. That sentence differs from the one you attribute to me in a couple of fundamental ways.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          The relative ease of getting away with one or the other aside, would you care to guess how many women are serving life sentences for making false rape accusations?

      • George White

        Oh yeah. In fact, I know of several cases in the school system where black female students have accused white teachers of rape, simply because the white teacher had the audacity to give them the failing grades they so richly deserved.

    • Daisy

      Brawley’s lies didn’t even make it past a grand jury, and they’re known for indicting ham sandwiches. Pagones suffered because either Brawley or Sharpton or both made it a race issue, not because feminists were spewing the absurdity you claim. Please provide one link in which any even semi-well known feminist says what you assert. I happen to find most, if not even all, of them ridiculous, but you’re even more so with that nonsense.

      • SFLBIB
      • josh

        Did you EVER hear of the Duke fake rape case? The case was very obviously one of a “woman” lying about rape, which feminists claim doesn’t happen, except it did. (But JUST this ONE time, In the whole world. Really) The feminists went wild with joy hoping to lynch these young innocent white men. They well & truly wanted to send these young white men to prison and ruin their lives and the lives of their families. Yes Brawley’s claims, like the Duke case, were eventually rejected, as they were so outlandish only a stinking feminist/liberal would buy them, but tremendous damage (not to mention money lost) had already been done. Both “blacks” and feminists target white men. I recall a case of a white cop who was having sex with a “black’ crack ho (not very bright.). Of course she charged him with rape. The case was a joke but it was held before a “black” so-called “judge” who of course found him guilty. He had spent over a year in jail before he was freed. Daisy you need to get it thru your thick skull that these women have absolutely no concern for men’s rights and well-being. So the idea of women as authority figures is grotesque.

        • Howard W. Campbell

          The only reason that the three individuals charged in the Duke rape case were able to secure not guilty statements from the NC Attorney General is that their parents were loaded and had the ability to hire “pipe-hitting” attorneys. One was even able to prove with electronic time stamps and video that he was being transported back to his dorm (after going by a fast food restaurant and the ATM) in a taxi when the “rape” supposedly occurred. Nifong attempted to hang the cabbie on a 3 year old charge of aiding and abetting for taking people home who shoplifted from a grocery store. It guess it was pointless to try to throw an ATM in jail for providing exculpatory evidence. Even with ironclad evidence, it still took about 9 months and cost their parents well over $1M.

          • George White

            Not my take on it. Not at all. The “victim” was(and is) as I recall a low life criminal, and was in trouble both before and after this case. They had no case on those kids, period. Big money attorneys or not, they had no convincing proof that those young men did any criminal activity whatsoever. In fact, your post above exonerates the kid. You’re not making any sense. i think Ann Coulter wrote about this one too. Just another hoax, in a series of hoax lawsuits against whites. get a copy of “White Girl Bleed a Lot” and get back to me on this topic.

    • brengunn

      There should have been more questions asked when they seen the writing upside down on her body. What kind of fool would brand someone upside down? The kind of fool that brands their self. That should be obvious.

      There was a guy in the UK who done years in prison for the brutal rape of a woman. One of the injuries she said he gave her was slashing the word ‘whore’ (I think it was) across her chest with a knife. Except ‘whore’ was written backwards as if she stood in front of a mirror and done it herself. The police were so eager for a conviction they overlooked this and the fact she had a past of crying rape. Totally ruined the guy’s life.

      • Strider73

        Essentially the same thing happened in Texas about a week before 9/11, except it was “KKK” that was backward. (Same stupid thing — did it to herself in front of a mirror.) That tipped the police off that it was a hoax, and in no time the black liar fessed up. Even after her admission, the local Nazis Appearing As Colored People (NAACP) chapter insisted it was all true and demanded federal investigations.

        • Puggg

          I’ve heard of racial hoax graffiti where “KKK” was written but the “K” letters were written backwards, and words were misspelled like “ROAP” (supposed to be “rope”) and sentences like “GO AWAY NIGR.” (I guess we can all decipher that.) The quintessential literature of a typical black public school valedictorian.

      • Joseph

        Something very similar happened here just last year and there was the usual lesbian outrage contingent of 500 with “candlelight-vigils” etc. even making national news for a brief period.

        They were pretty quiet about it though when she was found to have fabricated every element of the so-called home invasion and assault by unidentified men and was sentenced for reporting a false hate crime. I think that they also expect her to pony up some tens of thousands of dollars for the cost of the long investigation.

        “While ****** admits that she can’t remember everything from that
        night — something she attributes to her earlier diagnosis of PTSD,
        anxiety and depression — she assures viewers that she “did not do
        this.”

        “I’m going to jail for something I didn’t do, for a crime committed
        against me, and I’m okay with that,” Rogers says. “But I’m not going to
        let it happen to anybody else.”

        Sometimes the system works right -but don’t count on it.

        • Katherine McChesney

          I remember this. I believe Charlie Rogers is in hot water and nobody believes anything she says. The lesbians who supported her withdrew their support. It’s people like her who harm the homosexual ’cause’.

          • Joseph

            The irony here is that if anything, her stunt makes it more *likely* to happen to someone else.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Howso?

          • Joseph

            It would be more likely that a *real* assailant might feel more invulnerable to prosecution when numerous false cries of “wolf” are discovered by the public -and there have been at least a few of these cases that have very similar elements.

    • Joseph

      And non-whites don’t lie about discrimination. These are two boilerplate axioms of leftist activism.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Unless that woman is named Juanita Brodderick and the man is Bill Clinton!!

  • 48224

    WHAT A GREAT WAY TO START BLACK HISTORY MONTH!

    Twana, you go girl!

    Which is harder to get….blood out of a turnip, or money out of someone named Tawana?

    • C_C_Conrad

      $431,492 – that’s a lot of food stamps.

      ……
      Jack’s War

    • bigone4u

      Unfortunately, when employed in higher ed, I was pressured to attend black history month workshops. Negative perspectives and comments were never allowed. As far as higher ed is concerned, she WAS raped and evil whites covered it up.

      • liberalsuck

        That’s why I could never work for a large corpoattion or for the government. I prefer working for myself or for a small company that doesn’t do this groveling. I’d get fired because I wouldn’t comply with their anti-white, communist drivel.

      • liberalsuck

        That’s why I could never work for a large corpoattion or for the government. I prefer working for myself or for a small company that doesn’t do this groveling. I’d get fired because I wouldn’t comply with their anti-white, communist drivel.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          I once had to go to one of those “workshops”, so I wore one of my uniforms, brought a book from home, turned my chair around and faced the back of the room while I read.

      • Ed_NY

        Isn’t it something how criticism against blacks or their agenda is not allowed or heavily censored and more often then not, punished. However, they can dish it out all they want. Hypocrisy!

      • Ed_NY

        Isn’t it something how criticism against blacks or their agenda is not allowed or heavily censored and more often then not, punished. However, they can dish it out all they want. Hypocrisy!

        • Joseph

          In these informed circles, infanticide up to age five, pedophilia, and bestiality are all permissible but there are some topics SO vulgar and detestable they are not covered by academic liberty nor free speech -like race differences.

      • Joseph

        Evil white is a redundancy among the devout intelligensia..

    • And she needs to countersue rev’rum Al. (Talk about a shyster.) How anyone can listen to him without gagging amazes me.

      • 48224

        I think Mr. Cosby learned his lesson on that one. He has been stone silent on issues like this ever since.

      • Torshammar

        CNN hired him. For commentary on race.

        In my perfect world, CNN is history for that alone. And Ted Kennedy does not get his career in the senate after his snorkeling trip.

    • Ed_NY

      Lets not forget that Bill Cosby jumped all over this back then and in fact donated a huge amount of money to Tawana and her cause.

  • wattylersrevolt

    The passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act=very large nonwhite voting block for the Democratic Party=Native Born White Americans having their fate put in Al Sharptons’ hands=Tawana Brawley incident=many more Tawana Brawley-Trayvon Martin type incidents in the future.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    “She likely fabricated the story because she feared her stepfather’s wrath for staying out late, according to the grand-jury evidence.”

    Wow. She’s a nurse now, eh?

    • Daisy

      Hey people, she was only 15. Are you all so certain that she made it up, or did Sharpton? Maybe she fabricated the rape part and Sharpton added the ‘racist’ dimension. I’m not sure a ridiculous prank she played to escape her grandfather’s wrath didn’t get turned into a much larger circus by Rev. Al. Since he was the adult and more likely the one who made it into a cause, I hold him far more responsible. It’s not even clear she intended to actually prosecute or not, which doesn’t make the lie acceptable. Just keep your eyes on the target.

      • Boereseun

        Hm, are you blind? She wrote n***** all over herself and smeared feces all over her body, ripped her cloths apart and hid herself in a dumpster.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          And carved “KKK” on the bottom of her shoe. Don’t forget that.

          • Daisy

            Is there certainty that *she* did that. Also, while it’s repulsive, it may have been what she thought she had to do to convince her woman-hating stepfather not to whip her, as he likely wouldn’t have cared about her getting raped *except* for by white men. As Crystal has said the stepdad had murdered his first wife. I’m not the slightest bit certain that she intended to prosecute. Maybe the stepdad was the pusher then Sharpton got involved.

            I say let her go as she was so young, under horrible duress and not necessarily the instigator of the attempt to prosecute. All you men who want loyal gf’s consider that she was merely caught missing school to visit her boyfriend and terrified of being whipped or even beaten to death.

            OTOH, rub Sharpton’s and every Diversity-proponent’s face in it.

          • Boereseun

            So an innocent man must pay the price, are you for real?

          • Katherine McChesney

            I say require her to pay the debt in monthly installments for the rest of her natural life.

          • bigone4u

            If she chooses to stop working and collect welfare, I wonder if welfare benefits can be docked.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            That’s exactly what this salary garnishment will do. I don’t know what nurse makes as an income, but assuming this is $40,000 a year and they garnish the maximum mentioned in the article – 25% – of that, it would still take her 43 years to pay the debt off.

          • Daisy

            Mostly because I don’t think she was as motivated by a need to attack a white male as she was by the need to escape what sounds like, from reading, profound physical and possibly sexual abuse, and because she was so young. I’m amazed at how many on here want to let Sharpton go when he, to me, personifies evil. If his name were Alberta I’d feel the same way.

          • ncpride

            According to this article written in 2007, she and her ‘parents’ are still telling vicious lies. She has had years to come clean, but the fact is, she enjoys those lavish vacations and attention she still seems to get from this farce. She deserves NO sympathy from anyone.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/20-years-tawana-brawley-turned-back-article-1.258639

          • Daisy

            Interesting article. It does look like she got too deep into the lie to ever come clean, although it’s the mom and stepdad speaking. I suppose if Brawley’s mother were so afraid of her murdering husband she would have left him long ago, but then she’d miss out on all the $$$ Sharpton and Co. have shelled out. It’s pretty sickening.

          • Katherine McChesney

            .

          • purestocles

            But the larger point is how she instinctively gravitated towards a resolution to her personal problem in which she intuited that covering herself with racially-iconic signs would evoke feelings of moral outrage in the minds of others. She set a trap using bait that she somehow knew would be effective.

            So even the dumbest black teenager knows enough about how society works that she can strategize to game the system.

            This doesn’t speak highly of the intelligence of those she targeted i.e. knee jerk liberals and of course over 90% of black people.

          • World_War_Me

            Bingo

          • Katherine McChesney

            Your comment is ridiculous and unjust. Your reasoning is, frankly, STUPID!

          • Lygeia

            Daisy, a man committed suicide after being falsely accused of rape by Tawana Brawley. I admit, the scary wife-killing stepfather (how could her mother have let a man like that into her home and why did she let him beat her children) is persuasive, but not in light of man killing himself over her false accusations.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Yes. And Harry Crist. Jr. needs to be remembered by name in this sorry mess.

            Harry Crist Jr., a Fishkill officer, committed suicide a week after having been accused in the rape of Tawana Brawley. At the time, Pagones offered a reason as to why Crist — who had just reportedly suffered a breakup and didn’t pass the N.Y. State Police exam — killed himself.

            Instead, Rev. Al Sharpton and Brawley argued that Crist committed suicide because he was guilty — and then Pagones was accused of raping Brawley more than two dozen times.

            Pagones lost his job and marriage, received death threats and his young daughter threatened as a result of the accusation by $harpton.

            Apparently none of this matters to MSNBC or its advertisers — or to the president of the United States of America.

            Bon

          • Andy

            I could have sympathy for her as a scared fifteen-year-old. What she did was wrong, but she couldn’t foretell that any of her victims would commit suicide. However, it’s been many, many years now. She’s not a kid anymore.

          • Daisy

            Crist according to the articles I’ve researched since AmRen posted this, committed suicide because he’d failed the test to become a trooper and been dumped by his girlfriend. That’s all I’ve been able to find. Sharpton apparently was – no surprise there – the driving force behind both prosecuting and fingering Pagones. Was it the last straw for Crist? Maybe, I wasn’t there, but since the weight of the evidence was already overwhelmingly exonerating of Crist it’s hard to see how this was what drove him to suicide.

          • Katherine McChesney

            She’s quite aware that what she did was wrong or else she would not have changed her name and attempted to live under the radar.

            I say throw the book at her. Her childish prank and lies destroyed an innocent man’s life.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            “Is there certainty *she* did that.”

            Of course gnomes carved the magic letters on the sole of her shoe. Gnomes get liquored up and do that sort of thing, and I have to inspect my family’s shoes every day to be certain they haven’t done it here. Gnome sayin?

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Meh…sure, 15 year old. Sharpton probably did swoop down like the vulture he is and “help”. Regardless, guy said he’d cease collecting if she told the truth. Did he even ask for an apology?

        She’s not 15 now.

      • SFLBIB

        Oh, sure. Blame some man. And I’m no fan of Sharpton.

    • She supposedly admitted that the whole thing was a hoax to a former boyfriend.

  • MekongDelta69

    From the original article:

    She was living under the assumed name of Tawana Vacenia Thompson Gutierrez in Hopewell, Va., and working as a licensed nurse at The Laurels of Bon Air, a nursing home in nearby Richmond.

    Now, how would you like THAT affirmative action ‘licensed’ (oh yeah – sure) nurse-thing taking care of you in a Nursing Home?

    • Al Sharpton actually paid her way through school. From what I have read, she is a practicing Muslim but does not wear the Muslim garb.

      • [Guest]

        I recall that as well, Crystal. Tawana Brawley/Tawana Vacenia Thompson Gutierrez once joined “The Religion of Peace” and changed her name to Maryam Muhammad. It looks as if that alias didn’t last.

        By the way, it’s been pointed out how Muhammadans punish rape victims. I wonder what their policy is concerning black Muhammadans who falsely accuse white men of raping them.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    MSNBC will probably give her a Prime Time show. She has a face for that network.

    • SFLBIB

      I was figuring it would be a full professorship at an Ivy League college.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Who was it who said “By the time you’re 40, you have the face you deserve”?

      • ed91

        Dorian Gray?

  • Ulick

    There is no greater example of Liberal racial hypocrisy than Al Sharpton. The man spent his life preaching anti-white and anti-Jew hate, and it actually led to deaths in NYC. Then Liberals hold him out as a voice of civil rights and give him his own show. Sharpton is a walking, talking (not legibly) example of the sickness of the Liberal mind.

    • Pelayo

      Ironically it was two or more Black employees of Freddie’s Fashion Mart who died in the fire instigated by Sharpton.

    • bigone4u

      The fact that Sharpton’s idiotic commentary is featured on MSNBC is reason enough to totally tune that network out.

      • Joseph

        Yes, but putting their “best and brightest” out there for everyone to see has its own value in demonstrating the truth of racial differences in intelligence.

    • George White

      Dig in to his past and it’s a goldmine of crime; drug dealing, hoax lawsuits, etc.

      Sharpton is pond scum. So sad that he is considered to be a “black leader” while Thomas Sowell is ignored.

      • Ulick

        Sowell, and other intelligent, conservative black men, are not just ignored by the black community. They are also often derided as an Uncle Tom or house slave for speaking honestly and logically about societal issues.

        • Except Sowell et al. and all the white hangers-on who hang on to their every word need to get a home if they actually believe that the “black family” was really stronger “in the old days” than it was today. If it was, it was only because blacks ceded to white social pressures. But Paul Kersey and others are starting to dig up evidence that it was never really that much stronger. The real truth of the matter is that black malfunction was kept bottled up and ghettoed up a lot better in the old days. What that means is that blacks got to behave like blacks do around other blacks, but had to pretend to act normal if they ventured outside their ghettos.

          If older people today have this notion that blacks “used to be better,” it’s mostly because their real nature was covered up by mutual consent.

          • Ulick

            I read Paul’s newest article about how blacks used to conform because they knew that the white reprisal would be swift and severe. Once the threat of that reprisal was removed blacks began to act as they normally would and it will continue to get worse because they see no reprisal is forthcoming. I agree with Paul, and I’ve believed that to be true for some time. The same applies in South Africa.

            Paul is correct. The black community is like a child that needs a stern parent to keep them in line.

          • Howard W. Campbell

            My mom worked at the Grady Hospital (Atlanta) in the early 1950’s and could tell you some stories about black criminality and malfeasance. The police didn’t really care until the idiocy spilled over to the white community.Then they would start cracking skulls and kneecaps. She grew up 2 blocks from a black area in Atlanta, but never had to worry about home invasion burglaries. Too many people in the black community knew someone who was either lynched or shot for being in a sundown town after dark.

          • Katherine McChesney

            When I lived in Alabama in the 60’s, blacks left town before sundown. It was safe to walk at night. They used to come to town on Saturday. We stayed away from the movie theater as they would sit in the balcony and pee on whites who sat down stairs. York is now overrun with blacks. More than 80% population is black.

          • Rob

            Your story about urinating sounds skeptical. No need to fabricate stories. There are enough real bad things about Blacks without having to make things up.

          • George White

            No…it really WAS much much stronger before the Dems destroyed the black family with the free cheese. “Paved With Good Intentions” is a must read. Black illegitimacy was around 20% prior to the sixties, but is now around 75%! Without a doubt, liberal social engineering destroyed the black family. In fact, their marriage rate was actually higher than whites pre-1970’s. The free cheese took away all ambition, dignity, and left them in permanent victimhood.

          • KevinPhillipsBong

            I have a relative who was a Southern lawyer back when. He says common law marriage was a white legal fiction used most often to protect black children’s legal rights because black parents seldom went to the trouble of getting married. If illegitimacy rates were so low, doubtless much of the reason is due to genteel lawyers who wanted to protect children from charges of bastardy. Though I don’t doubt that things have gotten somewhat worse in the wake of welfare subsidies for reckless behavior.

          • The way I was taught the genesis of common law marriage in America, it was mainly a function of frontier territories and states unable to have ubiquitous legal systems. It meant that out there on the wagon trail, if Mister and Miss fell in love with each other, and said their forever vows in front of the caravan’s preacher, and they “acted married” for a certain period of time, the budding legal system of the state or territory would consider them legally married, even if they could never appear in front of a real public authority, which they couldn’t, which means they were legally married everywhere in America and the rest of the civilized world.

            Now, it is curious that most of the states that “hung on” to common law marriage as long as possible were Southern.

          • My copy of “Paved” is author-autographed, thank you very much. I don’t doubt the black family once seemed to be better off, but if it was, it was only because of white social pressure that socially forced blacks into imitating white social norms. And now, see what KevinPhillipsBong said in this thread, that a lot of black “marriages” in the old days were common law pseudo-marriages to “save face” for the kids.

          • Luca

            In the old days, certain behaviors weren’t tolerated or subsided are they are now. Welfare has allowed them to revert back to their African nature and behavior as hunter-gatherers. They hunt for liquor stores to rob and women to rape and gather up welfare and food stamps.

      • Luca

        Hard to believe from a guy who was an ordained minister at age nine and went on tour with James Brown.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Hahaha…an ordained minister at age nine….that’s hilarious. Any black can claim they are pastors. Two in my building claim they are pastors. They are quite entertaining but as for them being legitimate pastors, they don’t have any formal training or seminary. Black churches are just groups of people who band together to figure out how they can get more money from the government.

  • Jeff

    I wish she went to prison, or were repatriated to her homeland (Africa), but failing that, this judgment is a serious punishment. She will never escape it. It will make her poor for her entire life, and will force her to retire into poverty. That is a miserable outcome for her life and will let her experience plenty of suffering. I’m glad they are catching up with her. Judgments (in most states) can be continued for many many years and keep piling up interest.

    • Luca

      Some vile person like Jamie Foxx, Spike Lee or Rosie O’Donnell will probably help her out.

      • You’re right–these vile people HATE WHITES and enable and empower any minority that can screw a White.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Maybe Bill Maher. He likes black women…but one he dated said he liked to abuse them and call them ‘ghetto trash’.

    • Boereseun

      I don’t get where you think the punishment is sufficient. This man did nothing, absolutely nothing, not a thing. Not one thing. Let that sink in. He didn’t even have sex, whether consensual or not. The girl made everything up and destroyed his life by taking his work, his wife, his future, basically everything. This is the ultimate ‘Shawshank Redemption’ type plot where there’s nothing to salvage from it. He can’t even go live out his days in Mexico because he will never see a dime from this witch.

      If this is the law, it’s meaningless.

      • Katherine McChesney

        I hope his wife feels shame for the rest of her natural life.

        • World_War_Me

          me too!

    • SheikYerbouti

      Getting a judgement against someone from the lowest rungs of society is not an asset.

      • Non Humans

        True, but it is not about attaining an asset. It is about justice and revenge. Having a percentage of every one of her paychecks docked for the rest of her life is completely just.
        .
        The whole premise of the incident was utter nonsense, and an innocent and hardworking man’s entire life was torn apart on the unreliable accusation of a black. Though, I do not believe that all of the blame should rest on her (which is unusual being that she is the root cause). I feel that the investigators and the media are also at, fault, to a lesser extent, for promoting the nonsense. Especially after the original lie took its twists and turns. They should also have to pay.

        • liberalsuck

          Whites don’t stand up for ourselves because we think we’ll get money or perks; that’s what other races do. We do what we do because we know it’s the right thing to do and to send a message. Don’t let greed or fear control you. It destroys companies, your finances, nations, cultures and people.

    • Lygeia

      She will declare bankruptcy and go on welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, you name it. Then, she will get a boyfriend in the underground economy whose income will be unreported and untaxed.

  • wattylersrevolt

    From the photo I say:an obvious Rift Valley Experiment that failed…definitely a failed archaic form.

  • ncpride

    Only way I’d waive the money is for this liar to call a national press conference, admit she lied through her teeth, and apologize for all the damage she caused. But of course, NO MSM network would ever air such a confession, so just take the money, dude.

    • Non Humans

      I wouldn’t waive the money, period. No better way to remind her of this for the rest of her life. It would be akin to shooting a robber or burglar and grazing a major nerve group for his legs or hitting a major joint such as a hip. He would feel it for the rest of his life, just as she very much should.

  • Katherine McChesney

    ‘Major’ news sources aren’t carrying this.

  • SoCal LoCal

    I was in college when this broke, I now look a good deal better and younger than Tawana.

    P.S. The blacks on campus were credulous and p*ss*d over her story.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      “I now look a good deal better and younger than Tawana.”

      Don’t we all?

  • As I understand it, she concocted the story to prevent getting whipped by her stepfather for skipping school and going to jail to visit her boyfriend. Her mother knew where she was and helped her concoct the story. Her stepfather had spent time in prison for murdering his first wife. No wonder she was scared.

  • Michigan Patriot

    If this non-truthful, racist’s medical skills are as good as her hatred of Whites; she must be the nurse of the century ! Which type of nursing skills does she posses and pays her bills; modern Western White man medicine or African black witch-doctor / voodoo ?

  • SintiriNikos

    This guy can keep dreaming if he thinks he’ll see a dime from this woman.

    • Katherine McChesney

      I like that she was found and is being exposed for the liar she was. No one should go through what Pagone has gone through. She’s responsible for destroying his marriage, his reputation and his life.

      • SintiriNikos

        Me too. Unfortunately with false rape charges, regardless of race, the woman usually emerges unscathed (often they’re scumbags to begin with and have nothing to lose anyway), but the man, even if cleared, is all but ruined. I believe there are a lot of false rape/sexual assault accusations going around, which doesn’t mean that actual rape is not a problem for our society. I just think it’s not as widespread as the feminists like us to believe. But it will get worse the more 3rd world hordes we let in.

        • [Guest]

          Concerning feminists: Shouldn’t they be the greatest warriors against false accusations of rape, which tend to bring true accusations into doubt? But they don’t seem to be. I think that to the hardcore feminist, a false rape accusation is just as useful as a true one. I don’t believe that the goal is really prevention of rape but to tear down men—and white men especially—in any way possible.

          • Daisy

            I believe part of the failure to fully ‘redress’ such accusations is that they rarely go beyond innuendo and therefore how would feminists address them? Believe it or not, I have heard feminists bring up that false accusations can be a problem. Since it’s so rare for a false accuser to prevail past a *grand jury* (they decide if a prosecutor should be allowed to proceed with a case and investigation to an actual criminal trial) if she even gets there to begin, what do you want the feminists to do? You’d have more luck convincing them that too many women lie or exaggerate than you would in convincing them that their movement is anti-white.

          • SintiriNikos

            You hit on the essence of it. Feminists really couldn’t give a toss about women’s best interests. Their objective is to dispossess men, even if in doing so, that brings down family, society, and women along with it.

          • [Guest]

            That sums it up very well.

            For the most accurate descriptions of this particular variety of fool, Henry James’s “The Bostonians” is the place to go. Along with the unthinking do-gooder zealotry (first excerpt) there is to be found in this sort of character the usual racial lunacy (second excerpt).

            “…She belonged to any and every league that had been founded for almost any purpose whatever. This did not prevent her being a confused, entangled, inconsequent, discursive old woman, whose charity began at home and ended nowhere, whose credulity kept pace with it, and who knew less about her fellow-creatures, if possible, after fifty years of humanitary zeal, than on the day she had gone into the field to testify….”

            “No one had an idea how she lived; whenever money was given her she gave it away to a negro or a refugee. No woman could be less invidious, but on the whole she preferred these two classes of the human race. Since the Civil War much of her occupation was gone; for before that her best hours had been spent in fancying that she was helping some Southern slave to escape. It would have been a nice question whether, in her heart of hearts, for the sake of this excitement, she did not sometimes wish the blacks back in bondage.”

            This is what James saw in the 1880s. But I doubt he anticipated that these kinds of idiots would one day run the country.

          • SintiriNikos

            “Women” like that were marginalized in the good old days. It wasn’t until they got an audience in the form of some stupid, weak, self-hating men, some possibly homosexual, that they became the political force that ruined our society. Pretty sure some businessmen of the day nurtured this destructions because after all, women in the workplace = lower wages.

            Now, it’s all I can do to get any woman, in any miserable job, to admit her career is pure drudgery and she would be much better off raising children and keeping a household.

      • Daisy

        What’s unclear is why his wife believed what a grand jury – not an actual jury, but the most preliminary form – tossed out of court. Doesn’t that suggest deeper problems in the marriage than just some race hustling nut’s fabrications.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          My old federal lawyer once told me “Not only would a grand jury indict a ham sandwich, but one would also charge the toothpick, plate, napkin and soda as accessories.” A grand jury that returns “no true bill” has essentially declared the individual in question “innocent beyond any reasonable doubt”.

          And yes, it does suggest serious pre-existing marital issues.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Daisy…you’re grabbing at straws. I don’t think men stand a chance with you. You’re going to make them guilty no matter what.
          An accusation like that against a man would be devastating to him. Especially if he was in the national press. He lost everything he had. I believe he had a sham of a wife who disrespected her marriage vows and as much as said she believed the accusation. She was selfish and self-seeking.

          • Daisy

            If you know and love a man, then you should be able to see through and lies about him, especially when they’re as ridiculous and far-fetched as Brawley’s and Sharpton’s. If a man had to live his life out with a wrongful conviction I could easily see that deteriorating the fabric of a marriage, but this case never even made it out of the gate. The grand jury found Brawley to be a total liar and vindicated the accused. The time between a report/complaint being written and the grand jury hearing is usually not very long. Why did this stressful but short time period ‘ruin’ an otherwise happy marriage? Why would a loving wife believe an obvious lie about her husband?

            What I don’t get is how people act like there’s no common sense among people. I’ve noticed that when I’m in fairly normal or healthier environments that there is some ability in the majority to tell when a woman is lying and when she’s telling the truth. I just spent my youth in very under-average milieus for women and northern european women. I also worked in the lower working class, restaurants, etc., for awhile without a college degree and that too was a very challenging atmosphere for females, especially white!

            But when you get into more middle class situations there’s more of an even playing field I think. I’ve run into various women who lie, project and exaggerate about being assaulted, although I’ve never known one who attempted to prosecute. More often these types just talk. I even noted that a man who sexually assaulted me was being lied about by a woman who clearly consented to him (this was confirmed by this liar’s friend). The assailant hunted me down for various reasons but this skank voluntarily hung out with the scum and even changed her story.

            Nobody talks about how sick, sadistic and vengeful rejected males can be, and how rape is usually motivated by an inability to handle rejection.

          • Pagones’ wife didn’t leave because of the lies, she left because of the stress and threats from Sharpton & Co.

  • Diamond_Lil

    Looking at her picture, life has not been to kind to Ms. Brawley as a result of her personal choices. And it seems that it’s going to get even harsher. I love this.

    • Katherine McChesney

      She needs to be brought up on charges.

  • Unperson

    “When Pagones, a friend of Crist, offered an alibi for his besmirched dead friend, he found himself accused of raping Brawley nearly three dozen times.”

    Three dozen times. In four days. Virile, no?

    And — a point not mentioned in this story, but a fact of the case nevertheless — according to Brawley, ALL of those “rapes”, by ALL of those men, were exclusively oral sex. That’s right: so that she wouldn’t have to prove that she’d been penetrated (she hadn’t, not by anyone white, anyhow), Tawana actually told police that Pagones et al had only sexually abused her mouth and not her genitals.

    This in addition, of course, to the many other implausibilities and absurdities mentioned by commenters here, such as the upside-down writing on her body. My (rather obvious) point with all this is, this woman’s story didn’t just “have holes in it”, it was nothing but holes! Brawley’s claims weren’t suspicious, they were ludicrous! Not just to forensics specialists and law-enforcement officials, but even to casual observers like me! There’s NO WAY what she said happened, could have happened. And if she’d been any color other than black, there’s NO WAY any police department would even have listened to her allegations — much less ruined innocent men’s lives over it.
    The very fact that this vicious, moronic liar’s nonsense was taken seriously is further proof that this is indeed Black Run America.

    • George White

      As I recall…there were actual eyewitnesses who saw her acting suspiciously and climbing into the plastic bag all by herself with nobody anywhere near her. Rotten witch. Hell is waiting.

  • [Guest]

    What I wonder is why white Americans did not open their eyes to racial hucksterism and put a stop to it a quarter of a century ago as a result of this lynch-the-white-men hoax. The fault is not the likes of Sharpton and his tools such as Brawley; the problem is that white people have permitted this sort of rot to go on decade after decade so that now it’s unstoppable.

    • ed91

      the white women teachers in our school systems wouldn’t allow any eye opening.
      many of them hate white men as much as blacks do.

  • Anon

    Would a black woman, alone and unescorted, have anything, ANYTHING at all to fear, from a large group of white men, even if they were heavily intoxicated? Even if they were outright skinheads with “Kill nig****” tattood on their faces?

    No.

    And that is the bottom line.

    • AutomaticSlim

      Far be it from me to ever see things from the “black perspective”,
      but come on now, a gang of drunken, tattooed skinheads????
      You’ve go to be kidding me! Any black, male or female, singular or in a group, would absolutely be scared out of their wits and with good reason!

      Let’s get this clear, blacks are the worst of the worst, and I know this first hand as I have lived in a 30% black area for over 20 years. But that being said, a lowlife is a lowlife, and some of the “white trash” types like criminal skinheads, aryan gangs and outlaw bikers are almost as bad as the blacks. In some ways they may be worse as they are White and should know better. The difference is, of course, that the vast majority of Whites are law abiding, while the vast majority of blacks are either violent criminals or those that sympathize with them.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        I didn’t mind hammerskins very much, once they got over the “let’s pretend” bullying act. There was a corrupt accountant who beat the dog poop out of an “outlaw” biker over a seat said biker had “reserved” in one of the TV rooms.

        All a bunch of tats tell me is that you’re an idiot who relies on intimidation and who won’t fight very well.

  • It’s sad that “reputable” newspapers won’t report such news. While I applaud the New York Post for publishing this, one look at the surrounding stories, and recommended stories, tells me this is, overall, a trashy newspaper. But really… aren’t they all?

    http://www.jewamongyou.wordpress.com

    • George

      The Post is a tabloid. Sensationalism is its stock in trade. In news parlance, ‘if it bleeds, it leads’.

      I’m sure if you checked back, the New York Times of the era was filled with lead ‘news’ items about the case, op-ed pieces about white racism, the Klan, how society hasn’t progressed in the (then) 20 years since the Civil Rights Act, etc. Today? Have they provided any significant coverage about it?

      Slate, owned by the Washington Post, another lefty site (I enjoy posting realist facts there to stir the pot) is also curiously silent on the matter. They *do*, however, have an article about ‘Monumental Mistakes: How Azerbaijan botched its effort to win friends and influence people in Mexico City.’…because monumental mistakes, such as falsely accusing people of rape, and letting others pay your civil judgment a la Al Sharpton’ deserve the public spotlight.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Well, that only took 25 years. The victims of Freddy’s Fashion Mart also deserve social justice.

    Think Twana’s (can’t remember her new 5-syllable muzzie name) old buddy Al Sharpton will help her out? Oh, that’s right. He’s only involved if there’s a payout or major media attention.

    If it weren’t for Sharpton, I think Brawley would have confessed and ended it 25 years ago.

    ‘Infamous hoaxster’ Tawana Brawley

    Hoaxter? Does the NY Post think this was some kind of childish prank?

    Should say: Infamous racist, lying, b**** Tawana Brawley.

    Bon

  • bigone4u

    Creeps like Al Sharpton show sensible people what civil rights “leaders” are really like–lying, money-grubbing opportunists. Jackson and his nutty son are the same.

  • LastBastionOfHope

    Can someone explain to me how she isn’t in jail? Who the hell can owe nearly $500,000 since over a decade ago, not pay it, and still live life as normal?

    • Because the Constitution forbids debtors prisons. (Except they’re able to slip an exception about child support past that somehow.)

  • Mark

    Why in a world would any man want to rape that??? I doubt that she looked much better 25 years ago.

  • liberalsuck

    Ha! It’s nice to see these “civil rights” groups and race hustlers finally getting their comeuppance. It’s too bad I can’t get my conservative white friends to stop their worshiping of MLK and Rosa Parks. Most of my conservative friends on Facebook who post pro-constitution or
    pro-gun rights pictures always invoke Rosa Parks or MLK. These people hated whites, were communists and the whole civil rights stuff was pretty much stages, plus it was unconstitutional to tell people who they should hire, who they should do business with, etc. PLUS the country has gotten worse since the days of the Civil Rights Bill was passed.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Rosa Parks was a Communist. She attended The Highland School in Sewanee, TN shortly before she staged her sit-down.

      • ed91

        I can’t believe she was smart enough to be much more than angry.

  • Sloppo

    Imagine if she were treated like a white man ignoring a judge’s demand for alimony/child support. If she really couldn’t pay it, they would take her drivers license. If taking away her ability to get to work didn’t improve her ability to earn money, they would throw her butt in jail.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Correct, and if a fellow crosses state lines to avoid paying child support – or just to look for another job, the FBI instantly becomes involved. Wheeee! What fun!

  • Joseph

    She should at a minimum be forced to provide 40 acres and a mule to the aggrieved.

    Maybe her accomplice Sharpton can contribute something. I’m certain that he can afford it.

  • This wasn’t the only hate-crime hoax. Every time I hear about a burning cross near a synagogue in Brooklyn, I’m usually suspicious that it’s not Kosher. Getting back to Tawana, she should have left out the part about being covered with feces. Now, in all seriousness: She shouldn’t pay a dime. Al Sharpton should be flipping the entire 431,000 bill. Let’s not forget the journalists who turned this into a sensations. JUST AS THEY ALWAYS DO.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      The journalists can’t completely be faulted. Yes, the mainstream media has a political agenda, and yes the journalism field attracts left-wing incompetoids like moths to a porch light, but sensation and sleaze also sell newspapers and TV advertising time, and the media IS profit-driven. The only bright spot here is that the newspapers are dying off, in large part precisely because of the unmitigated drivel they print and the unwillingness of increasing numbers of sane people to pay good money for the “privilege” of reading it.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    One aspect to this story – and its evil twin, the Duke Rape Hoax – is that people are almost never punished for making false police reports of this nature. When one lies to investigators about a misdemeanor, it is misdemeanor “false reporting”. When one lies to investigators about a felony, it is felony “obstruction of justice” (don’t take my word about that; just ask Martha Stewart.) Brawley committed a felony when she falsely accused those men of rape… and was never charged with a blessed thing.

    This phenomenon sometimes has consequences more serious than a civil judgement being served against an overweight nurse 25 years late. Crystal Magnum, perpetrator of the Duke hoax was given a free pass on obstruction of justice, and went on several years later to chimp-out on her boyfriend. She smashed out his car windows and slashed his tires and then threw all his clothes into the bathtub of their apartment, doused them with lighter fluid and torched them. She was given a free pass on “arson of an occupied dwelling” over that incident. This boyfriend decided he’d had enough after that, which was good thinking on his part, because Magnum chimped-out on the next boyfriend… and stabbed him. He died. In short, this psycho was given a free pass on several separate felonies, starting with a provably false rape claim, and an innocent man is now dead as the direct result of her not being incarcerated.

    I personally have been the subject of provably false police reports, and several of my friends (all of them men) have as well. In each case, we were forced to spend hard-earned money bonding out of jail, and then spend considerable time and energy fighting phony cases that were eventually dropped by the D.A.’s offices. None of us ever once received any monetary compensation, and the liars were never once criminally prosecuted over their malicious falsehoods.

    It seems these cases are almost never prosecuted, even when the accusations are demonstrably untrue. I simply can not believe that the two rape hoaxes here, as well as the considerably less harrowing experiences of my friends and myself are atypical. Is society well-served when vindictive liars are able to put innocent people through a legal wringer with impunity?

    • Daisy

      If Brawley were charged we wouldn’t know about it given that she was 15 and any record would be sealed. You are massaging the facts to produced a contrived analogy.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        Wanna bet? Crystal Magnum certainly wasn’t charged, and she was an adult!

        • Daisy

          My point was that you were comparing her situation to Brawley’s. We do not know if she was charged as if so, it would have likely happened before she turned 18. And what difference does it make that she is now ‘overweight’ anyway…?

          Maybe when someone like Crystal claims rape it’s hard to ‘prosecute’ because she felt abused and it could be difficult to ‘prove’ that she was lying rather than being delusional or something. I’d like to know why society indulges so many men who commit such heinous acts as rape, molestation, etc. There are so many out there who inflict unconscionable damage to people’s lives yet see no punishment whatsoever.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            I was an undergrad at the time this sordid mess hit the news and followed the story. There was never once any mention of Brawley being charged as a juvenile, and if she had been, while the details would have been kept secret by the court, Al $harpton would have been bellowing fit to raise the dead. We know precisely what manner of individual he is, after all.

            As far as the sort of thing a truly psychotic drama queen can attempt, I was accused of “stalking” in 1998 by a California woman who thought I was living in Colorado Springs at the time. I had in fact – unknown to her – started graduate school in Sydney, Australia and was living there, so I was 8,000 miles distant across the Pacific Ocean instead of “merely” 1,000 miles away across the Sierras, the Great Basin and the Rockies. Even on the most boring weekend, it would have been difficult for me to hop in my friend’s Volvo and drive it to California; the trip across the bottom of the Coral Sea before I reached Fiji would have been a mite difficult. She demanded Santa Cruz police arrest me, charges unspecified, and flipped out when they explained they couldn’t. Her response was to sue police chief Jan Teller for something she was calling “Total Incurable Shock Syndrome”. As bad as that syndrome sounds, the civil suit jury wasn’t buying it. In the end, I think she quit grad school to marry her thesis advisor. I’m not sure, because I just don’t give a rip.

            These sorts of bizarro, la-la land accusations by neurotic women, not all of whom are black, are more common than you appear to suspect.

          • Daisy

            You’re assuming Sharpton would have been told. The grand jury was presented with ~150 witnesses and over 250 pieces of evidence. They sorted through all of this and found Brawley guilty of lying, plain and simple. They even traced the dog crap directly to a dog living next door to Brawley, that’s how thorough the investigation was. By the time it was over, Brawley was been humiliated and likely wouldn’t have wanted it publicized if she were prosecuted, which is not to say I’m in any way certain she was. They seemed to have uncovered the motives for Brawley’s claims and may have even placed her in foster care for all we know.

            Your story doesn’t make sense; how would the Santa Cruz police arrest you when you were living in Australia? I get the sense you are not telling the whole story or relating it in chronological order. Bizarro accusations happen but they don’t succeed in court very often, if at all in this DNA-detecting world. I still maintain that it’s far easier to rape than to successfully falsely accuse. I also note a failure by too many to acknowledge that men can suffer from rejection anxiety. My observation is that more women lie in court to get money or control of kids, although that trend seems to have abated significantly. It’s very rare for women to prevail in the court system with lies designed to punish a male for rejecting them. Because the burden of proof is on the female, and most rapes happen between people that know one another, men have a built-in advantage. In the two incidents brought up on this thread of false accusations entertained by the prosecution, both happened in instances where the female was under-age and extreme duress from circumstances directly attributable to anti-female attitudes and policies, ie lack of freedom to control their own bodies/wombs, homicidal abusive stepfather.

            Males who rape or molest are just spoiled, self-indulgent primadonnas who cannot countenance simple rejection.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            That is exactly what they tried telling the Drama Queen, and I had done nothing worse than leave here on July 14 1989, when I packed my car and drove back to Colorado.

            When I moved back to the USA, I went through customs at LAX, and still wasn’t arrested.

            As far as “rejection anxiety” goes, you must mean older men who don’t know how to cook for themselves. As a 46 year-old who loves reverse-engineering my favorite restaurant dishes from places I’ll probably never see again, I can safely say that even solitude has its flower.

            Is “rejection anxiety” anything like going to prison for 30-50 years for being falsely accused of rape? You seem to be regurgitating psychoanalysis BS too much. How old are you, and have you ever done anything out in the world? Most men expect to be rejected heaps of times. For the overwhelming majority of us, rejection costs us nothing at all, and doesn’t even hurt.

            –MCS

          • Katherine McChesney

            I know what you mean. I had a schizophrenic neighbor who was in AA. She moved in and immediately she made other tenants lives a nightmare.

          • ed91
  • Major

    When they get that lowlife huckster poverty pimp, scammer and greasy butter ball, Fat Al, to pay his fines….I’d say that when they grow palm trees in Siberia…TB will pay hers.

  • nobody

    Oh yeah she really looks like she has that $400,000. Cash or check?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      She appears to eat rather well. I’m reminded of the old saw “By the age of 40, one has the face one deserves.”

  • The contrast between Pagones and Brawley is remarkable. After all his suffering caused by her vicious lies, he seems willing to release her from her staggering financial obligation to him, if she just tells the truth, and publicly acknowledges his innocence and that she made the whole thing up. This is an honorable man. Brawley, on the other hand, will only tell the truth, if she can no longer avoid paying Pagones. How can anyone live like this? How can she face herself in the mirror, every morning?

    • ed91

      she doesn’t have much choice………. she is what she is…………..

      whether Pagones is there or not, she is tawana brawley……… see her picture?

  • refocus

    Wow, can’t you just see this big fat Negress stopping by your hospital bed to give you a couple of injections of sumfins !

  • seek

    As symbolic justice, I’m all for this suit. Pagones’ life was severely damaged by Brawley and her handler, Rev. Al Sharpton. He deserves compensation. But I’ll guarantee you, he’ll never see a dime of that money.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Absolutely! If there are never any consequences for this sort of thing, there’s no disincentive to doing it. Al $harpton’s own words at the time come to mind as well – I remember them as if it was yesterday: “If we’re lying, sue us. Sue us right now.”

      • ed91

        we’re not far from some fool volunteering to be lynched for the cause………..

        after all, the fire rises

  • Wow, Father Time kicked her rear end! Anyway, why don’t we take up a collection and pay her outstanding debt, ONLY if she drops a dime on that fat and odious, race-baiting profiteering pie wagon Al Sharpton. After all, “It’s all about the benjamins”.

  • GERRY

    This is much more than a simple he said-she said rape case. It is a case of total hatred and racism against white people and our court system in general. Tawana Brawley and nut job Al Sharpton are guilty of total fraud and lying to a grand jury. Why a criminal like Al Sharpton is allowed to play Lawyer in a court of law without a license is beyond belief. Both of these criminals should spend the rest of their lives in jail. Naw!!!! that would be unfair to tax payers. What if we deport them to Mexico or Cuba? After all, these countries send us their garbage, why can’t we send them ours?

    • ed91

      well sure, we all know this, but the whole deal was right out of the oj manual on how to get over on the man……… yes I know oj was a decade later…….. but the same plan prevailed……… the most outrageous lies against white men……….. and then the celebration…………. forward———

  • Michael_C_Scott

    One might think that the feminist movement would harshly condemn rape hoaxers instead of giving them public accolades, but one ought to remember that this is the same feminazi movement that thought the “Boys Are Stupid: Throw Rocks At Them” T-shirts were “cute”, in a starkly honest display of their genuine opinions. This movement is all about the denigration of boys and the destruction of adult men, and to them, lies are acceptable weapons. For instance, women are still alleged to be “disadvantaged” in higher education, yet statistics show more women receiving PhDs in the USA than men for over the last decade.

    • World_War_Me

      You might also think that feminists would be more concerned about how women are treated in Muslim countries, but I guess since Muslims are a protected class, the feminists must give them a pass. (Ha! I’m a poet and don’t know it. Maybe I should become a professional protest sign writer.)

      • Michael_C_Scott

        This is a common accusation against feminazis, and is taken as hypocrisy in their thinking: i.e. that white male patriarchy is bad, while Muslim male patriarchy is acceptable. It actually is not an inconsistency at all: feminazi dogma holds that white males are irredeemably evil and that nonwhite males are not. From this perspective, the apparent inconsistency here immediately vanishes.

        • World_War_Me

          I see your point.

      • ed91

        race and sex trump truth in the war against white males

  • Garrett Brown

    It wont affect her any. She’ll be just fine financially when she gets her welfare checks.

  • Sick and tired!

    I hope they make her pay for what she did to him! So she’s a ‘nurse’ now? Sure wouldn’t let her take care of me or anyone else I cared about!

  • Commonsense80

    Not sure what it means to people on this site but I feel the need to mention that Clarence’s jurisprudence has been by far the most cogent, consistent and coherent of any of the philosopher-kings on the bench today, imo. The man has simply been brilliant on the bench and deserves far more notoriety and acclaim than he receives.

    • ed91

      could you lists some of the brilliance?

  • Commonsense80

    I think”David’s Hammer” makes a very strong case for the need of an activist judiciary and toward that end Clarence Thomas is leading that fight in the current SCOTUS.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I think the US Constitution and an armed citizenry backing it up make an excellent case against an activist judiciary.

      Legislation from the bench ought to be a hanging offense.

  • Slightly off topic here, but i see everyone calling sharpton and jackson race baiting hustlers (which I agree with mind you), buntdont you think folks like james edwards, paul kersey and the like are doing the same thing. Racism is a problem in this counry but I personally feel that classism is the real problem. I know that these rich black “leaders” could care less about me much like the rich “leaders” of the race realism movement could care less about you.

    • Bad_Mr_Frosty

      I’ve become disillusioned with PK as of late. For a while his blog was groundbreaking journalism. Now he just seems to just report stories that make White people angry. He has a bunch of books out now that deal with exact same issues, just in different cities. His work is getting very repetitive and I fear it is merely a cash cow for him now.

    • Beloved Comrade

      Sharpton and Jackson have the national media and White House access to spew their racist hatred. James Edwards and Paul Kersey do not. Jackson, Sharpton and others of their evil ilk like Tim Wise are praised, lauded and awarded millions of dollars for bashing Whites. Wise has called for the end of the White Race.

      Racism IS the problem in this country; racism against Whites, that is. We’ve had 50 years of institutional, government-enforced and sanctioned racism against White children in the form of AA, quotas and preferences that favor every race except for White. We’ve had tax policies that target White earnings and wealth, to be handed over to blacks and other non-Whites. We’ve had a media that refuse to report black and brown crime against Whites all the way up to and including mutilation murders. Yet murders of dolts such as Travon Martin are 24/7 national news and his murderer called “White.”

      Why isn’t a network such as WET (White entertainment), or White churches, White organizations, White advocacy groups, White political parties, White conventions, White professional organizations allowed to stand without government harassment?

      Racism is a problem in this country, but it is directed at Whites and only Whites. This is because Whites no longer control this country, it is controlled by those who wish to put an end to the White Race. I wish more would wake up and realize this fact. England, France too.

      • I your greatest acclomishment in life if being whatever race you are, you fucked up somewhere.

        • Beloved Comrade

          That is a childish response. It is a sure sign of a nut, who has lost an argument.

          What do you think the thousands of readers who come here and read your post think about you, and your political views if all you can come up with is personal attacks, harassment and total lack of respect?

          Go back to your anti-White cult leaders and demand your money back.

          • I could care less, just offering a different perspective. I’ll speak my philosophy you speak yours, I’ll teach my kids well, you teach yours. and how is what I said an attack?

          • ed91

            You couldn’t care less………..and neither could I

        • ed91

          yo dude…….. use the edit option, go back to school or limit your posts.

  • bill collector

    Yea and good luck on collecting a penny unless Obama and Holder pays it for her or throws it out as racism by old angry white men.

  • **BRUNO**

    I was disappointed that I did not see Rev, (sic) Sharptongues name listed too.

  • ed91

    it’s harder to pull these scams off than it was back in the 40’s and the 50’s.

    if tawana had pulled this trick in the 50’s there would be statues of her holding hands with rosa parks

  • Duke

    It’s obvious looking at that photo that no white man would ever want to have sex with Tawana Brawley much less go to all the trouble of raping her.

  • MBlanc46

    Well done! It’s a twofer. A racist and a feminist taken down at the same time. They’ll probably not get much out of her, but I hope they make her life a living hell.

  • debby

    karma catches up with you eventually and one day it will that fecal material sharpton also.