London’s East End: A Melting Pot Simmers Closer to the Boil

Joe Shute, Telegraph (London), February 8, 2013

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{snip} Nowadays [in the East End of London] the largest ethnic group are Bangladeshis, mainly from the rural Sylhet region, who embrace conservative Islam. But on the streets, men and women in traditional dress rub shoulders with a new and transient population of white, twentysomething professionals who pack out the hip bars of Brick Lane, Shoreditch and Bethnal Green every night of the week.

This is the coolest part of the capital—and a disturbing extremist undercurrent has erupted on the streets in response.

In the past few weeks, footage has emerged of gangs of vigilantes calling themselves the Muslim Patrol, prowling the streets and intimidating those who “disobey God”. In a series of shocking incidents filmed on mobile phones and posted on YouTube, the hooded extremists confiscated alcohol from residents in Whitechapel, calling it a “forbidden evil” and harassed a white woman late at night for wearing a short skirt. They also launched a tirade of homophobic abuse against a man who appeared to be wearing make-up, ordering him out of the area and calling him a “bloody fag”.

Some of the attacks took place on the weekend of January 12 and 13. However, it has emerged since that the week before, vigilantes confronted a group of white revellers in Shoreditch and assaulted a man in his twenties. Police, who have categorised the incidents as hate crimes, have so far made six arrests and are stepping up patrols.

Warnings, including from the Measuring Anti-Muslim Attacks campaign, that the far Right was trying to exert itself on the streets in response, appeared to be confirmed last weekend when an anarchist bookshop on Whitechapel High Street was firebombed. Freedom Press, which was founded in 1886, was badly damaged. The bookshop was previously targeted in 1993 by the neo-Nazi organisation Combat 18. Its owners believe the latest attack, being investigated by the police, has again come from the far Right.

At a time when jihadist groups are fomenting violence in Algeria, Mali, Syria and Libya, the East End vigilantes have sparked headlines internationally. Journalists from Russia, Sweden and Germany have descended on the borough.

This is an area that has long celebrated itself as a melting pot. Residents embrace a diversity that dates back to the arrival of Huguenot Protestants from France in the 17th century. And it was on these streets that thousands came together in support of the large Jewish population and to see off Sir Oswald Mosley’s black shirts in 1936. In the 1970s, National Front intimidation of Bangladeshis culminated in the racist murder of a young man, Altab Ali, in 1978; a local park was named after him in 1998.

Events of the past few weeks are raising concerns among police and community leaders that fanatics are once again on the march.

Tower Hamlets is one of numerous areas in England—others include parts of Bradford, Dewsbury, Leicester and Luton—where Muslims Against Crusades, a banned extremist group that burnt poppies on Remembrance Day, has announced it wants to impose sharia law. Al-Muhajiroun, an Islamist group proscribed by the Home Office, is also said to be active here.

The vigilante patrols are the latest in a long line of incidents, which have included homophobic attacks and the appearance of stickers branding the area a “Sharia Zone” and “Gay-free”. Maajid Nawaz, chairman of the counter-extremism think tank the Quilliam Foundation, suggested last month that the “Muslim patrols” could be “a sign of things to come” as a pattern of extremism spreads across Europe.

“It is a tough time for the East End,” agrees John Fell, the 58-year-old landlord of the Old Ship, across the road from the Queen’s Head, which is also up for sale. Mr Fell, who has launched a petition against the closure of his pub, says he has eight years left on the lease agreed with the council.

“There has been trouble going on here from before those [YouTube] films. We have had people beaten up, and all that sort of stuff. The people who do this are just yobs, using religion as a shield to bully people.”

Clustering in the shadow of the Olympic stadium and the glittering monoliths of Canary Wharf, Tower Hamlets is one of the poorest boroughs in the country. Its population is young, and at a time of limited opportunities, increasingly frustrated. It is a fertile breeding ground for extremism.

Newly published census figures reveal Bengalis have now overtaken white British to become the largest ethnic group in the borough, comprising 32 per cent of the population, compared to 31 per cent. Muslims are the main religious group, making up 35 per cent of residents. Only 27 per cent practise Christianity—the lowest proportion in the country.

According to councillors, the local political landscape has become “poisonous”. The Respect MP George Galloway’s divisive election victory in 2005—a feat he has repeated in Bradford—is blamed for stirring up hatred, the scars of which remain. There is real concern over council policies.

“I was appalled by the footage but not entirely surprised,” says Peter Golds, the leader of the Conservative group on the council. He is openly gay and says he has endured homophobic abuse inside the chamber. “I fear there is some evidence [that disparate groups] are growing because in some aspects of the community here, the integration is so poor. There are some people who are here physically, but not mentally, emotionally or anything else.”

In the wake of the “Muslim patrols”, much of the spotlight has focused on the East London Mosque and adjoining London Muslim Centre, which tower over the largely Bengali shopfronts of the grimy Whitechapel Road. It is where the IFE, which advocates turning Europe into a sharia state and has been criticised for inviting speakers with strong homophobic views, is based. Mosque leaders, and the mayor of the borough, have been quick to condemn the vigilante attacks. This hasn’t stopped hate mail being sent to the mosque.

Spokesman Salman Farsi, 27, says he believes the patrols are made up of fanatics coming into the area from other parts of London to stoke up tensions.

“There has always been a fringe minority of our community who clash with the proper teachings of Islam, as I see it,” Farsi says. “They have a more simplistic, literal interpretation of Islam. Clearly that is at odds with Islamic and British values and traditions.”

He adds: “I wouldn’t describe it as a fragile environment. There is a lot of co-existence and harmony.”

At the White Swan on Commercial Road at Limehouse, which has been serving locals for 28 years, a question mark hangs over the weekly gay strip night, also threatened with closure by the council. Police have urged manager Liam Bushell to report any instances of hate crime, but he is hopeful that these recent events are a one-off.

“It is a very multicultural place,” Bushell says. “We do get a lot of Asian people coming in here. I don’t think it will stop people coming to the East End.”

It is typically defiant talk in an area that historically refuses to be cowed. In the latest wave of extremism, however, it is hard not to wonder how long this slice of East End life will remain.

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  • We in the US have been warning Europeans for years. They aren’t going to take the UK by force but by a slow take over. And where are the police? Oh, I forgot, they have more rights than native Brit’s. It’s the same thing in the US where whites are ALWAYS the enemy.

    • Charlie Brown

      it really doesn’t matter that much. The Muslims aren’t the group that made sure the flood gates of 3rd world immigration were opened to the West. The group that did that is the group that dare not speak its name (which is fine because increasingly everyone in the West knows there is only one group we aren’t allowed to speak the name of, except in groveling praise).

  • lavender menace

    What is interesting is that even the local Muslims discredited this group saying that this approach was inappropriate.

    • HamletsGhost

      What they really mean to say is that their fellow Muslims are premature. They need to wait another 15 years before showing their true colors.

      • Greg Thomas

        At this rate, they will only need about 5 years….

    • fuzzypook

      When they do that they are practicing “takiyaa”. The muslim practice of lying to the infidel to advance the cause of islam. It is written in their koran.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Exactly. Every single time Muslims act like Muslims there is some Muslim leader somewhere saying “Not all Muslims are like that. It’s only a small fraction and they make the rest of us look bad!”.

        If that was true then there would be fringe groups from every religion doing insane things like this. Christian fundamentalists could do things like this if they took the Bible seriously enough but they don’t. At least not as often. I haven’t heard of an abortion clinic being bombed for quite a while.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          But not that long ago, and it happened in America, civilized America.

  • PesachPatriot

    These muslim patrol guys are going to run into a bunch of very intoxicated and belligerent football hooligans or Motorhead fans and have their day thoroughly ruined and perhaps get to meet 72 virgins….I’d love to walk down the street their with a pint and have some wannabe jihadi thump his koran at me….I would love to see this group try and go on patrol in NOLA, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Charlotte or Savannah….good old boys generally do not take kindly to Muslim extremists telling them not to enjoy a cold beverage.

    • steve7789

      Football hooliganism has been effectively dead in England since the mid nineties. It is Southern and Eastern Europe where the action is nowadays.
      Not that they were or are particularly admirable people in any case. They beat to a pulp and sometimes killed their fellow countrymen in support of teams often made up of alien players.

      • PesachPatriot

        I’m not advocating soccer hooliganism, just stating the fact that these good british immigrants are pushing their luck and testing statistics with the this kind of activity….not every englishman is mr. bean and these muslims troublemakers may be finding that out in the near future. Just because they don’t have a 2nd amendment there doesn’t mean someone won’t take a swing at them…did not know that the british soccer hooliganism was a thing of the past.

    • rightrightright

      They are likely to run into the English Defence League whose leader, Tommy Robinson, is currently imprisoned at the State’s behest on petty charges.

      • PesachPatriot

        I think I may have read something about this English Defence League….I know they have some jewish members, they seem to be pretty much the equivalent of the tea party crowd here in the states

  • libertarian 1234

    “…..the “Muslim patrols” could be “a sign of things to come” as a pattern of extremism spreads across Europe.”

    And the multicults were so naive they just couldn’t envision such a thing happening. They live in a delusional bubble of their own creation that defies common sense and logic.

    These people are the same throughout the West. They seem to be totally ignorant of human nature.

    They wanted to give everybody a house in the US whether he/she could pay for it or not, and it nearly brought down Western economies, which still haven’t recovered, with every expectation of a repeat performance, maybe this year.

    Their biggest screw up, however, is going to be cramming all races and cultures together elbow to elbow, which nobody wants, until bloody warfare is commonplace.

    • NYB

      The ‘multicults’ are disciples of Marxist totalitarianism. Their solution to failed immigration is to implement a police state under a dictatorial centralized government. They will never admit they were wrong, and they will never admit they are dupes of globalized capitalism.

      • Bill

        Is that their solution, or was it their end game goal all along? I think the latter.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        Exactly.

      • StillModerated

        Multicultis wanted more government, and then become peeved when they see more police.

      • Charlie Brown

        Marxism was never about Marxism. Never about public ownership or socialized utopian dreams. All of those things were INCIDENTAL, not core. The core was the need for a way to destroy the ruling and higher, elite, controlling, classes of Europe. It was identical to the multicultural strategy of today where ‘multicultural’ isn’t about ‘multicultural’ but the destruction of all Europeans regardless of their social class. But back in the day of marxism it really was an identical strategy. There were parallels for White Supremacism, parallels for the part being played now by Blacks and Hispanics. The part played by ‘racism’ was ‘class hatred’.
        It was all exactly the same. The enemy didn’t give a damn about the frontline moralities or stated purposes, like the working classes back then, and like the Blacks today. Blacks have suffered more than whites from the social warfare since the 1960’s. Look at them now. Then go look at some old footage from 1950 or thereabouts. Black out of wedlock childbirth was running at 20% back then and considered a crisis by Whites. Where are Whites now? Thirty five Percent? Fifty? Wherever they are Blacks have fallen off the edge of the cliff. No one among our enemy gives a damn about the Blacks. This is about dispossessing, degrading and destroying Whites. Nothing more or less. And the same was true in Communism/Marxism and so on. They laugh at us when we try to make sense of that period in terms of ‘the means of production’. That was just a strategy…a means to an end. And if you want to know where things are going for us….yeah…you just look at what happened when ethnic russians finally lost power and were dispossessed. Go read about the Bolsheviks and the millions of …not just murders…but brutal sadistic murders. Whole districts cut off no one allowed to enter or leave, and all food, even seed, confiscated. Go read bolshevik writings about the hilarity of watching people driven to canabilism…watching them eat their own children and laughing and cracking jokes. And by the way…if you think this is a joke, or an exageration, go read again, and don’t forget to go look again at Marxism and Communism and see if I’m right about all those exact parallels with now.

  • The__Bobster

    The pot is on the boil. It won’t take long now.

    • NYB

      Inflation is on the rise in Britain while growth is stagnant. When the rate of unemployment begins to snowball, and quantitative easing is ineffective at creating jobs, racial conflict will hit the streets.

      • Nathanwartooth

        I was watching something on Reason TV where they were talking about the US debt.

        He said there were really two outcomes. Either we default on the debt or we print our way out of it.

        Of course the sane thing to do would be to get the budget under control and pay it off like anyone in debt would be forced to do.

        But either option will cause inflation to skyrocket. It wont happen anytime soon but I think paying attention to our credit rating would be a good indicator. Once it drops enough and we can’t get anymore money lent to us outside of the Fed one of these options will have to happen.

      • Runciman

        Growth will continue to be stagnant because the people themselves are stagnant. Outside of certain areas of London, and a few select places in the South, the UK is a third world country with a third world economy and increasingly a third world population. I work there regularly and the decline is shocking. Whether or not they just continue to descend into poverty or break out in civil war who knows? I do know that they have really had it and I don’t think recovery is possible. I hope I am wrong.

    • AB7

      Come off it already, if Western man (Wm) was going to do anything to save the West he would have done it by now. (If 9/11 wasn’t enough, there is quite literally nothing that could happen that would wake Wm up.) Wm has been castrated and feminized by modern liberalism, and short of a genuine miracle from the God of the Bible there is nothing that can be done to save the West at this point. Any man who actually does find his gonads and decides to stand up to the Muslim filth invading his country will be swiftly taken out by the establishment using whatever force is necessary to liquidate him and then curse him in his grave as a hate-filled anti-Muslim bigot. So cut the crap already and just get used to it. Wm is the one who doesn’t know what has hit him, and it is already too late.

      • NYB

        9/11 was an insignificant event as far as its immediate impact on the price of oil, demand for gold, the continuation of global trade or policies to promote growth. Even a trillion dollar debt hasn’t done much to alter minds.

        What will really change the course of history will be a global weather event disrupting food supplies to 7 billion people. A ‘miracle of God’ could indeed be consciousness-raising for whites.

        • AB7

          You may be right that events beyond the control of man may force a realignment of sorts but if Islam has already spread throughout the West by that point it won’t change the downward trajectory into another dark ages from which it will take long enough to come out of that the old Western civilization will have been totally forgotten in every way by then.

          As for 9/11 I was speaking more in terms of the emotional impact that it should have had, not economic. Muslims took down the freaking World Trade Center towers. That was a massive event, yet Wm has really done nothing but try to build up Muslims since, and expand the spread of Islam in America and the West since. Wm is like the kid on the playground who just won’t fight back no matter what the bully does to him. Wm might as well just get it over with and drop trou and offer himself (collectively) to the buggery that the Muslims are planning for him.

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        Are you an SPLC plant? A common leftist tactic is make the enemy believe they are already defeated so they stop resisting.

        It’s late, but it’s not too late. Golden Dawn is stabbing muslims in the street while the police cheer them on. I love how everyone says “it’s over” when it hasn’t even started yet.

        • AB7

          Well, hopefully you are right. Maybe you can respond to my response to Henry, I just don’t see it happening, sorry to say. It is more important to face reality, that would help, if there truly is any hope still. You seem far too optimistic at this point, I do not think that you are facing reality.

          The West is at best going to end up like the person who has smoked for 50 years and then decides to quit after their body is already ravaged by terminal cancer. Needless to say, it is pointless at that point.

        • rightrightright

          The Greeks lived under the islamic boot until the first quarter of the 19th century. They know their enemy and don’t want it again. Spain, also invaded and conquered by muslims, has tragically gone soggy, without any spirit of resistance.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            Which shows that other mitigating history like the more recent past of fascist rule by Franco turned Spain into a socialist backwater, easy pickings for Muslims who consider it their own already.

          • David Ashton

            The socialist rulers of Spain are engaged in putting Franco into the memory-hole and vilifying the moderate prosperity of his post-war rule; ditto the experience of Chile under Pinochet and Greece under the colonels. I write this as someone well aware of the “human rights” problems under all these military folk.
            But Left-utopians have also “destroyed the actual lives of countless human beings – 60 million in the Soviet Union alone between 1917 and 1959” (Richard Holloway, “New Statesman”, February 15, p.51). The Islam-utopians have no better record.

          • SintiriNikos

            According to Henry Miller in The Colossus of Maroussi, if not for the western powers intervening, the Greeks would have driven every Turk into the ground. Now GD is ridding the country of people who were all but disposed of by patriots in the revolutionary war, only to be reintroduced by traitorous political elites almost two centuries later.

      • HenryHolliday

        Go ahead,,,kneel down and lower your neck for the sword. Pardon those of us who prefer a different outcome.

        • AB7

          You have misinterpreted my comments. I love our civilization and am heartbroken to see that it is lost. You have to stop thinking that life is some sort of movie where impossible scenarios play out before the end. Think about reality, face reality, quit pretending that there is still time to save the West. Modern liberal indoctrination has destroyed the ability of the majority of those in the West to think correctly, on many levels. Everything is based on fantasy and emotion. The FACT that Islam cannot be reconciled to Western Civilization in any way shape manner or form means nothing to the modern twit living in the West.

          People responding to this article suggest that at some mysterious time in the future Wm will have had enough and they will suddenly stand up and fight back against the Muslims presumably driving them out and saving the West? Oh come off it already, please be serious. The states, already, but especially years and years from now when these supposed people will supposedly fight back, will be controlled from within by Muslims. In America, Muslims are already in many key positions at the highest levels, they will never allow the state to fight against the Muslims within the West. The agitators against Islam will be destroyed quickly and easily, and then they will be renounced and cursed in their graves as hate-filled anti-Muslim bigots.

          Please present even one scenario, based in fact and reality, where enough of the citizens of the West will somehow wake up in time to stop the Islamization of the West. And do not rely on movie special effects and super heroes flying out of the sky to save the feeble twits who have given their civilization away.

          • HenryHolliday

            All I can say is…hide and watch.

            In a message dated 2/14/2013 9:51:25 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

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            AB7 wrote, in response to HenryHolliday:
            You have misinterpreted my comments. I love our civilization and am heartbroken to see that it is lost. You have to stop thinking that life is some sort of movie where impossible scenarios play out before the end. Think about reality, face reality, quit pretending that there is still time to save the West. Modern liberal indoctrination has destroyed the ability of the majority of those in the West to think correctly, on many levels. Everything is based on fantasy and emotion. The FACT that Islam cannot be reconciled to Western Civilization in any way shape manner or form means nothing to the modern twit living in the West.

            People responding to this article suggest that at some mysterious time in the future Wm will have had enough and they will suddenly stand up and fight back against the Muslims presumably driving them out and saving the West? Oh come off it already, please be serious. The states, already, but especially years and years from now when these supposed people will supposedly fight back, will be controlled from within by Muslims. In America, Muslims are already in many key positions at the highest levels, they will never allow the state to fight against the Muslims within the West. The agitators against Islam will be destroyed quickly and easily, and then they will be renounced and cursed in their graves as hate-filled anti-Muslim bigots.
            Please present even one scenario, based in fact and reality, where enough of the citizens of the West will somehow wake up in time to stop the Islamization of the West. And do not rely on movie special effects and super heroes flying out of the sky to save the feeble twits who have given their civilization away.

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    • Bill

      Well, if that happens, what hits the muzzies will be baseball bats and clubs. The socialist elites in Britain have disarmed their English subjects. Isn’t it just too coincidental that they first completely disarmed the native English people prior to opening the flood gates to third world immigration. Beware America. That is just what the liberal socialist elites and Obama are attempting here, right now, and for the same reasons I imagine.

    • StillModerated

      Read “The Flying Inn” by G.K. Chesterton. Life imitates art.

  • Will

    Note how the article includes cant about “right-wing extremism” and Oswald Mosley in an article about a subject that has nothing to do with such topics. Note also that it only criticises Muslims, a group protected by political correctness, insofar as they disparage homosexuals, another group protected by political correctness. So, those criticising “homophobia” will be accused of “islamophobia,” and thus the blessings of diversity rain down upon us all.

    • David Ashton

      Mosley was not “seen off” in 1936. The Cable Street “battle” was between communists and police. Mosley and his supporters marched again through the East End a short time later, without serious incident and got a good local vote in Bethnal Green elections on a franchise restricted to older householders. The Jews in the area since moved out largely to places like Ilford to be replaced by their Muslim enemies who present a bigger threat than ever allegedly presented by Mosley.

      • Skincognito

        Jihad is more dangerous than the Union Movement?! Unglaublich!

        • David Ashton

          The Muslim invasion presents a potentially violent threat to white Gentiles, as well as Jews and Indians.
          Mosley did not organize criminal violence against Jews or anyone else. His British Union and Union Movement were both attacked by communists and Jews. Mosley opposed foreign immigration before and after the war, long before Powell raised the matter.

    • Anders

      I certainly did notice that. Not just ol’ Mosely but Combat 18 as well! Just in case the reader was tempted to respond to the problem of islamic gangs in the East End by resorting to any sort of ‘extremism’, the very naughty spectre of Oswald Mosely is raised and if that isn’t enough for you…Combat 18.

      Typical English journalism.

  • wattylersrevolt

    Well, at least they will cleanse England of filth such as Pete Townshend,Gary Glitter, and Mick Jagger. And English Women should not be walking around like sluts.
    It is clear now that there is a major pedaphile scandal in the making in England…it as been brewing for years. Looks like pedaphillia is rampant in Labor and Tory iner circles and the entertainment industry. I have always believed the reason why these degenerates are all fanatically in favor of race-replacing the Native English with Muslims and Hindus is because they can hide their pedaphillia behind the banner of diversity…because diversity also means homosexual rights..and therefore, defacto rights for pedaphiles such as Pete Townshend who got a free pass to go free. Of course, the new Muslim Overlords will cleanse England of this most unnatural filth….this is very good!!!!…but, they will also enslave and murder the son of Emma West and the larger normal majority English population …not so good.

    • crystalevans

      The reason why Jagger and the rest of them left England is because of high taxes, not Muslims.

    • brengunn

      Is it a full moon out tonight!

    • steve7789

      I agree women should not dress like hookers when they go out but the Muslims would have forced them to cover up no matter how modest they were being.
      And Mick Jagger whatever his flaws is not a paedophile like the former two. Perhaps you got him mixed up with Bill Wyman.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Who said Wyman is a pedophile. I’ve never heard that.

    • Robb

      All of those Muslim grooming crimes of the past few years were really done by the native White people I suppose. Yup, them Muslims are sure going to clean it all up.

    • IstvanIN

      because diversity also means homosexual rights If by homosexual rights you mean the ability for a gay person to conduct one’s life without undue discrimination, I believe you are wrong. The Muslims aren’t exactly open minded. As for pedophilia, I believe most of the Muslims who practice that, with both boys and girls, are nominally heterosexual. Like their views on woman and rape, their total outlook on life is completely warped. I really don’t think any group comes out ahead in this.

      • wattylersrevolt

        I basically agree with what you wrote in your post. And yes, pedaphillia is a big problem in the Muslim World. Most Americans don’t realize that the Taliban’s rise to power in Afghanistan is a reaction the raping of underage Afghani boys by US puppets in Afghanistan. The Taliban has enormous support among a large segment of the Afghan Population because of this.
        Stanley McChrystal in his new book wants a very long term occupation of Afghanistan. This of course basically means supporting the pedaphiles in Afghan Muslim Society. It is not a coincidence that Genral McChrystal is also a supporter of legalized homosexual marriage and homosexuals serving openly in the US Military…they will have lots of pedaphillic fun raping Afghani Muslim boys at US taxpayer expense.
        Apparently Monty Pythons’ Graham Chapman was a pedaphile. The London Police knew about this…a did all the members of Monty Python…and looked the other way.
        The Native English can not possibly wage a revolt against race-replacement unless they become socially and culturally conservative..for otherwise, there is nothing worth preserving…and I think this is the main reason they have not yet revolted against the muslims in England…extreme over-the-top-hedonism is not worth defending at the end of the day.

    • Seek

      I have no problem with British rock n’ roll “filth,” certainly as compared to Muslims, who by the way, are very heavily into child rape. As for Pete Townsend, one of my true heroes, his new autobiography sets the record straight. Go read it and tell me he’s spinning the facts.
      I despise all religious extremists — Christian, Jewish and Muslim alike — who seek to “clean up” culture. They’re some of the dirtiest people around.

      • AB7

        You are right about the rock issue, but the problem is not “extremists” – that is silly. If someone is an extreme Christian they may nag you do death, boo hoo for you if you can’t take that, but the Muslim extremist will just physically kill you. And no Jewish extremist means a thing to you if you are not Jewish, you really are very sick indeed if Jewish extremists bother you, who cares? The problem is not even Muslim “extremists” – is is plain old Islam, the original, as Muhammad wrote it.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          It makes my head spin to think of how quickly the Christians would become fascist executors of the most fundamental type. It wasn’t that long ago that they were so and just a little bit of opportunity would be grabbed, especially if they see it as a counter to Islamic intrusion. Once again, the average person would do the suffering.

          • AB7

            What you are talking about is political power, and the abuse thereof, but while Christians who engage in that are doing so in spite of Christianity and it’s doctrines, it is the actual purpose and doctrines of Islam to have and abuse political power. Islam would not exist were it not for the use of force and the power of the state. If you are not aware of these differences it reveals you have not examined Islam close enough.

            Take a look at what Bill Warner has done at Political Islam, it will open your eyes. Islam is an entirely different animal, any comparisons to any other religion, including the favorite hobby horse whipping boy of all Western atheists, Christianity, reveals nothing but total ignorance of Islam.

            http://www.politicalislam.com/ (site seems to be down at the moment but you can google bill warner political islam and read some of his articles on other sites as well.)

        • PesachPatriot

          You are 100% correct about jewish extremists. Some of the ones in Israel cause trouble sometimes when road construction uncovers ancient graves or someone drives through their neighborhood on a saturday or holiday, but the ones in the US, UK, Canada and elsewhere are like the amish, shy recluses who shun most modern technology and seek to isolate themselves completely in their own neighborhoods…No one is afraid of guys in shtreimels and yarmulkes with thick glasses….

          I will stick up for some american muslims who came here legally, assimilate in to american society , can behave themselves and aren’t trying to impose shari’a law….every monotheistic religious text features outlandish supernatural stories and bloody violence….not just the koran. Thats why people still enjoy them centuries later. When these texts were written most people were illiterate and science as we understand it wasn’t much of a factor in peoples lives….It is easy for people in comfortable situations in civilized western nations to sneer at religious faith, but in many of the not so nice places of the world it is the only thing some people have

      • wattylersrevolt

        Seek

        You believe that nonsense Townshend wrote? Are you that gullible? You can easily google an analysis of what Townshend wrote in his book by a forensic psychologist. It is beyond obvious that Pete Townshend is a filthy liar. And to top it off, while he was looking at these photos of Eastern European boys who were photographed being raped, Townshend had his 16 year old son Joeseph sit next to him and view this evil.

        What about Roger Daltry? Do you think this fornicating giggalo is an outstanding role model for young English Males…and a paragon of family values? Or, are your values the values of two dogs doing it in the street.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          It is beyond obvious that you have certain obsessions, but I don’t go with attacking other whites when this is not the issue. Townsend has been chastised plenty, and since I have heard him speak on it and know something of him, I think he’s NOT a filthy liar, as you say. It really sounds like you have been a victim yourself so you go after every alleged case viciously.

          Well, let’s just replace the Muslims with blue-nosed Christians who will reassert the Inquisition, making sure every white is acting and thinking properly, NO THANKS!

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        I agree with you. The Who were (are) among other things, a highly patriotic band regardless of their wildness, etc.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Pedophilia in England has been the norm for decades. Students at boarding schools have suffered from attacks by pedophiles since the 20’s. Orphanages in England have been shut down due to this perversion. It stands to reason that homosexuality also stems from this environment.

    • Tired

      Did you just compare homosexuality with pedophilia? Are you even thinking? I am a WHITE European American race realist
      and I am gay. I love my race as much as the next white race realist, and
      when people say nonsense like this it is not only ignorant, it is also
      damaging to our cause. I think you’d be surprised how many gay whites are race realists.

  • brengunn

    It’s not really surprising. If people do want to live with their own, and are forced to live next to people with completely different lifestyles, tensions like these should be expected.

  • Magician

    The unfortunate curse England has is English is spoken there and in most countries around the world they teach English at all public schools and immigrants do prefer to move to countries where it will be easier for them to communicate with others.

    • Korean guy

      I am a Korean guy who lives in Vancouver and I do notice that trend in Canada as well. In Toronto and Vancouver, where English is the official language, there are a lot of immigrants, but in Quebec, where the official language is French, there are very few immigrants.

      I noticed something in Toronto. In Toronto, there are times when black men attempt to randomly talk to two or more non-black people where there is a young non-black woman and at least one man of any race, the black men tend to make efforts to avoid talking to the non-black woman first. I think that is because they would rather not risk being “misunderstood” and possibly having to be “taken” by officers.

      Today, I was talking with a really beautiful young white woman who currently goes to the school I went to. She asked me some questions about the school and asked me what I majored. I asked her if she enjoys going there. And a black man randomly approached us and asked specifically me for directions. And I gave him the right directions. It is not that the black male was misogynistic or anything but I think he just wanted to not risk anything by talking to a random young non-black woman.

      Similar things happened a few times when I was out in public with my mother. I noticed a few times when she and I went to shopping, most male and female white clerks and black female clerks rarely left my mom alone, but there were some black male clerks who avoided talking with my mother and made specific efforts to communicate with me first, or me only. There was a time when my mother made payment for some items but the black cashier gave me the change.

      It is also possible that the supervisors reminded black male clerks to be very careful with female customers. Not because the supervisors think the black male clerks are dreadful criminals or anything, but they just wanted to avoid the risk of being misunderstood.

      Maybe it is Toronto only…. and it might simply also depend on the situation. Where there are a lot of people near in public, and it is under broad daylight, there is a much smaller probability of any dangerous miscommunication, but when it is very dark, I have to be careful as well when talking to random women in public especially when she is standing by herself, even in Toronto. I noticed that especially after I turned twenty. When I was in my teens, I could talk to anyone in Toronto at any time of the day and nobody was ever scared of me. Those were the sweet comfortable days….ugh

      • Korean guy

        I mean Toronto!! my apologies.

      • Tim

        I see it differently. He is “interviewing” you. Talking to you first to see if he gets the green light or at least not a red one, before engaging the female in conversation…

      • Richard from Vancouver

        “I am a Korean guy who lives in Vancouver and I do notice that trend in Canada as well. In Toronto and Vancouver, where English is the official language, there are a lot of immigrants, but in Quebec, where the official language is French, there are very few immigrants.”
        Well here is another observation you have gotten wrong. There are less immigrants in the province of Quebec not because Quebec is French speaking but because of the fact that Quebec is the only province in Canada that can legally determine and regulate immigration numbers coming into its boundaries. There are quotas for immigrants in Quebec. As Canadians we have the Liberal Party and Pierre Trudeau to thank for this great social injustice.

        • Korean guy

          Hmm, what about the ones with Canadian citizenship who were born outside Canada? Do you have any infromation on that?

        • Korean guy

          Even in Ontario, once you get outside the well-known cities, there are virtually no immigrants.

        • Plenty of French speaking blacks (Caribbean) in Montreal, so much so that they’re ganging up, mainly in bloods and crips gang imagery.

          • SintiriNikos

            You mean Haitians of course. Their country is a mess since they expelled and killed every French colonist after liberation. Many of them bring the mess to Canada.

  • bigone4u

    None of the people that Britain is importing in large numbers have any understanding or desire to understand a number of key tenets of Western Civilization. Christianity, the social contract, freedom, individualism, free markets, technology, women’s rights, tolerance for gays or others of any kind, all seems to be beyond their minds to grasp. You can’t take persons with values and beliefs that are hundreds of years behind civilization and turn them tanned westerners just by wishing it so. Shut off immigration from Muslim countries if you value your lifestyle.

  • Skincognito

    I spent a few weeks in London doin work at the British Library. Central London bars were ghastly, so I ventured out on the weekends. One Sunday morning I found myself in Tower Hamlets surrounded by Third World scum. I am heavily adorned with skin-pictures, but am a racially loyal heterosexual, monogomous father and husband, nevertheless children taunted me and “men” needlessly threatened me. My moral foritude counted for nothing in East London. It was a race-war waged against one pink-faced Yank. I sought refuge in a bar with broken windows, vandalized by Asians. Whilst there I met a veteran of Dunkirk who admitted that his Empire died in vain fighting the Reich. Weisse Einheit oder Tod.
    By the way, if you consider tattooed grad students who booze it up abroad the same as queers, then please refrain from commenting.

    • edie

      having someone tell me to refrain from commenting doesn’t work too well……..
      if you have problems, deal with them yourself and spare the ones of us who
      don’t care about your shortcomings.

      • Skincognito

        My only problem is resisting and detesting the death of the West. My experience in East London was but an instructive case-study of this broader, dare I say, evil phenomenon.
        I rarely share anectdotes here, thus I tried to refocus my post on the larger issue at hand (muzzie conquest/White dispossession) rather than my own idiosyncrasies. Still, direct experience is invaluable in helping us as a Volk to articulate and affirm a pro-White Weltanschauung. Concretizing the abstract is only problematic for the feeble-minded.
        All the best Edie, cheers.

        • Katherine McChesney

          You set yourself up to be ridiculed. I think you mentioned them because deep down you are paranoid about them.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        Why are you and K McChesney going so far out of your way to attack this guy? I don’t see anything so bad about mentioning that he has tattoos? I am not marked and wouldn’t do it, but I grant him the freedom to do what he wants in that dept. His story was valuable at any rate.

        He’s a fellow white trying to support other whites. Can’t we let him slide just a little?

        • Skincognito

          Thank you sir,
          I also referred to a veteran of “Britain’s finest hour” who is now a victim of Shar’ia law in his own nation.
          He now defends Mosley and Powell.

          • David Ashton

            I personally also deeply dislike the modern fashion for indelible tattoos, but I am quite prepared to tolerate people with them who also support British patriots, old or young, whatever their “class” or “tastes” or educational “levels”, and to regard them all as my comrades in a morally legitimate struggle to protect and revive the civilization of white peoples.

    • Guest

      “Weisse Einheit oder Tod.” You know nothing about German culture nor do you have any idea how to speak German. My advice: just don’t, it sounds ridiculous. The German language has nothing to do with U.S. white nationalism. German society is fiercly liberal and multi-cultural. It is mostly English-speaking whites who are race realist, by our definition. If you chant German slogans, with incorrect usage and grammer, in the name of white supremacy, you look beyond ridiculous. Even German skinheads won’t “accept” you. This very small fringe is typically pro-German and anti-American. It’s not about white solidarity for them. They wish to expel non-Germans, and take back lost territory from Poland. They typically don’t like white Poles nor Eastern Europeans. The vast majority of Germans though are Obama-loving liberals. Also, I don’t believe that the Amren folks appreciate neo-nazi slogans in their comments section.

      “By the way, if you consider tattooed grad students who booze it up abroad the same as queers, then please refrain from commenting.”

      I won’t even comment on that. It’s too comical to even try to understand what you mean. I promise not to call grad students “queers”…whatever the hell that means.

      • PesachPatriot

        I think his comment is more directed at the older generation of american posters who look down on tattooing as the mark of sailors, whores, bikers and convicts and primitive savage cultures(many indigenous tribal peoples of north america, india, south america, asia and africa practiced the art form). I’m not enamored of the homosexual lifestyle but calling them queers is unnecessary

        • Tim

          I USED to think they made you look like sailors, convicts and bikers. Now I think they make you look like minority gang-bangers or wannabes and I hate them even more…

          • PesachPatriot

            Hating drawings on peoples skin is pointless and counterproductive, they have to live with their decisions, you don’t….when the brown matter makes contact with the rotary device you may want a few tattooed barbarians on your side….I know several white gentile people with tattoos(some even on the neck and hands) and I think they are of much higher moral character than unblemished clean skin scumbags in business suits.

          • Katherine McChesney

            They look like thugs. Abundant tattoos are self-mutilation. Not a moral character I would want to emulate or admire. I think they’re disgusting looking. I prefer clean White skin.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            I must agree with you. It is easier to wear rings or things on your neck or even clothing to make your statements. The other thing I understand about tattooing is that there is a masochistic high achieved which is one reason people get into it and end up covered.

          • kjh64

            Personally, I prefer no tatoos but I don’t have anything against others who like them. I say to each his/her own.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          I am one of these old guys you refer to here, but I don’t condemn a guy for having the tats. I do think that they announce you to the world in an inescapable way and will likely attract negative attention. The one I know is chronically unemployed and unhappy in general as a white man, but it is compounded by his own choice everywhere he goes. I mean white people back away from him.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        Are you straining yourself to attack this guy a bit? I know a tattooed, skin head American neo-nazi who is originally from Germany. He tells a different story from yours.

        “grammer” – grammar. If you’re really going to go after someone for not using the right German wording on an English language site, don’t mess up in English on an English language site.

      • Skincognito

        Pakis, liberals, and many “race realists” place me in the same category as homosexuals (call us infidels, racists, or hooligans, whatever, we’re beyond the pale). Bad idea.
        You appear to be more tolerant than I am, except regarding my vulgar German, pat yourself on the back.
        My undergrad students of beginning German outperformed the sections instructed by native speakers. Don’t confuse online Denglisch with my actual command of the language or grasp of the culture.
        The above article juxtaposes scantily clad women and pederasts with Islamofascists. I was simply pointing out the ways in which patriotic, indigenous English OAP’s and Anglo-Saxon American skinheads can also fall victim to this evil religio-political ideology.
        Enoch Powell was right. Burn the Koran. Smash the EU. Repatriation now. And yes, Whites must unite or die.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Tattoos – self-mutilation.

  • guest

    “Muslim Patrol makes sure you do not “disobey God.”

    I wonder what those atheist activist groups think of this. We all know they’re against Christianity. Surely they’re against Islam too. After all, if you’re an atheist, that means you don’t believe in any god, not just the Christian god.

    • fuzzypook

      As an atheist I can say that I find Christianity to be just as silly as any other religion. Islam is beyond that…it’s evil and stupid.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      That’s right, no god exists. Try it out; try praying and whacking off, you’ll get the same results.

      Islam is currently the most threatening, so it is the worst. But Christianity certainly had a long terror reign in Europe and elsewhere as well. Even Judaism never sought or seeks to conquer or even convert (Torah has no historical proof and is mythology). It is interesting that it’s mangled offshoots, C and I consider the world wide spread of their religion a duty. But it’s also big business, don’t mistake that.

  • Bud

    The views of Muslims on women and homosexuals are well known, the left chooses to import them because their value as a destructive anti-white, anti-western force overrides the left’s other alleged principles. The modern political left is consumed with a genocidal hatred of white people, they really don’t care what sort of society comes after the destruction of whites, even if it means rule by Sharia law. In short, and in summation, anti-racism is a code word for anti-white.

  • concernedcollegekid

    I thought the Left was supposed to care about women and gay people. So why isn’t “it puts women and gay people in danger” ever considered by the Left as an argument against third-world immigration into first-world countries?

    • IstvanIN

      The same reason blacks “leaders” support the Hispanic take over of the US: their hatred of YT is greater than their desire to survive. Leftists hate white, Christian America so much that they will sacrifice women, gays, the handicapped, you name it, for “diversity”. Truly sick.

      • concernedcollegekid

        Leftists make me so mad. They tell me that as a woman, I undergo all sorts of oppression and discrimination by Evil Patriarchal Straight White Males that I am not even aware of, but if I notice that black and Muslim men tend to commit more actual rape and violence against women, I’M suddenly an oppressor for noticing a fact which is relevant to my own safety. Insane…

    • wattylersrevolt

      Collegekid
      If the US is broken up into separate raced-based nation states..the left-liberal fantasy…the nonwhite race-based nation states will exterminate White Leftist and White Liberals…in the Native Born White American race-based Nation-which will be socially and culturally conservative-White Leftist and White Liberals will be exterminated. White Liberals and White Leftists are filthy undesirables…everyone understands this obvious point. The predction I made above is a 100 percent certainty. Just take a look at the hilarious You Tube Video of an ultra-conservative muslim woman in London reading the White Liberal Female Slut the Riot Act…and the English Slut’s reaction:”What do you mean..I supported you and your fellow Muslims”. Or read about the Liberal English Voting Fraud Official who was almost beat to death by Bangladeshi Muslims who didn’ want him around the polling place.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Muslims are filth. Even the so-called moderate ones, which, by the way, I do not believe exist.

  • guest

    The original article does not allow comments…typical. The UK has discovered race realism.

  • LHathaway

    This is funny. It about sums up the ‘diversity’ agenda. The ‘Muslim patrol’ takes over a part of London and the media respond by: condemning white right wing extremists.

    It reminds me of the response to 9/11 terror. Many people were worried about the possibility of anti-muslim sentiment. Here, it’s the only thing the newspaper concerns itself with. If this newspaper and it’s style of coverage is all that is being heard it just about guarantees more visits from the Muslim patrol. I guess anything can happen, as long as white wing extremists aren’t allowed to speak.

  • LHathaway

    “the left chooses to import them because their value as a destructive anti-white, anti-western force”

    When u call them a destructive, anti-white force, and this is why they import them, you’re still talking about their values, right?

    I disagree with those who paint the muslims as ignorant and backward, and want leftists to kick them out to keep things liberal. That’s exactly why they are being imported, to turn back the clock and make things more conservative. America and England may fall, but the rest of the white world will likely take a stand. And the only ones seen taking a stand are the ‘backward’ far right. The choice is clear. Except the ideology of the far right. Or die.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      I don’t think either is true; the conservatives don’t want Muslims because they are conservative and the Liberals don’t want them because they will destroy the white world. Our experience of it is not theirs. They don’t want to see it that way because they would be forced to act against it.

      The claim that Western conservatives would want Muslims in their countries is absurd on its face, but the real reason Europe and other countries like Canada and the U.S. bring them and other non-whites in is because they are a cheaper labor force and they will replace the whites not having enough children to pay the taxes bureaucrats want to keep their own jobs and lifestyles expanding. The consumer based economies need an expanding number of consumers, etc. This is the dismal truth of it. All the rest of the effects are ancillary and not considered important by either Marxists or Capitalists or anyone in between. That said, it is true that special interest groups are targeting whites and white occupied regions for takeover and the usual means of doing that are in full employ. They are getting away with it because money talks and the power of whites is diminished while their buffering presence for the time being is taken for granted.

  • odious liberal

    The UK government will wring its hands abd continue groveling before these sub-humans.

  • KenelmDigby

    The marxist former mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, attempted to pander to muslim fundamentalists in order to save his own political skin from electoral defeat.
    Livingstone, the premier gay advocate of British politics, was fully prepared to sacrifice gays to people who want to kill them, for his own personal gain.

  • MCPH1

    I don’t like it that muslims have immigrated to western countries, there are by now to many of them in Paris, London, etc. But compared to mass immigration from subsaharaafrica they are in my opinion a minor problem. This is because subsaharaafrica is the by far bigger demographic problem than the muslim world. The muslim countries have experienced huge population growth in the last decades, but this is over, the TFR has sunken to much lower levels, still higher than in western contries and east asia, but not that high. In Subsaharaafrica the TFR is still on an extremly high level, and probably will be some other decades.
    Apart from that muslims tend to separate themselfes, while only blacks demand the full integration in every former white society, club, or whatever. And white antiracist only want to fully integrate the blacks, this is their agenda – not diversity. Their ideal world is packed with black alpha man, white alpha women and some white guys in between…no place for eastasians, south asians etc. Take the new Bond movie Skyfall as an example: the moviemakers have obviously had the endeavour to show the MI6 as a postracial, inclusive place. But that doesn’t mean that they show any eastasians or southasians working in the MI6. No it is only persons of westafrican ancestry, which in the UK means mainly persons with roots in the carribeans. In every shoot which shows the team working for the MI6 there are always some blacks integrated, but no indians, bangladeshis, pakistanis, chinese, etc.. Evene my liberal friends with whom i watched the movie and whi lived in London for some some time had to admit, that there is a inbalance, that the movie is not represantive of the demographic constitution of London.
    orry for my bad english, I am no native speaker…

  • Seek

    Islamic sexual “modesty” is always enforced through the fist, the knife or the gun. Britain never should have let these rotters into their country.

    • AB7

      With Muslim women you sort of have to assume that they are all sluts because the only reason they are wearing the garbage bag is that they are forced to. You have no way of knowing how they would dress or act if they were free. With Western women, if you see one dressed modestly and carrying herself that way you can assume she is not a slut, or at least she keeps it between her and her significant other. Islam perverts and destroys everything it touches. Islam is like the white-washed tomb, clean on the outside, dark and dank and rotting on the inside. Islam is all a facade, public prayers to impress others, including infidels whom it is meant to intimidate, while in their hearts they are filled with vile hate.

      • PesachPatriot

        I was friends once with a palestinian-american kid when I was younger…very nice person and one day I asked him about the whole burka thing and if it really made their women more moral and chaste, (disclaimer my parents are not super religious and wear regular american clothes…my mother clearly made several questionable fashion choices in the 60’s, 70’s, and ’80’s judging from old photos)….he told me it is all ridiculous nonsense…his father had worked in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait before they came to america and the women behind the most severe street garb all wore very provocative lingerie underneath them and drank like fish and swore like sailors at home behind closed doors.

        • Katherine McChesney

          I met a muslim from Turkey. He said the same about his mother. She shared sexual stories with him about her relationship with his father. What kind of mother would do that? That’s like ‘flirting’ with her son. It is suggestive behavior.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            I have seen and read about Muslim men in Turkey in how they treat Russian and Ukrainian sex slaves. They beat them terribly and prefer violent sex. Perhaps aside from the general cruelty of Turks, the reason why so many of them hate women.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Acting out is not exactly unique when you are forced to do what they are. The question is, which came first, the burkas or the characteristics you list? Also, this is Saudi Arabia, not the entire Muslim world. Arabia has been very wealthy and spoiled the population for decades with dispersions of oil weath, etc. I think the men in other Islamic nations would beat their women (I know they do in the Balkans) rather than allow this behavior at home.

          Extra; In Bosnia as the Yugoslavian joke goes; the Muslim man says you must beat your wife when she is bad and beat her when she is good to prevent her from being bad.

    • Katherine McChesney

      But, George W. Bush said they are the ‘religion of peace’. sarc/off

      • AB7

        While it was wrong of him to say that, just imagine if he had come out and spoke the truth about Islam right after 9/11. Liberals would have screamed till blood was coming out of their eyes that Bush was a hate-filled evil Christian Crusader fanatic who should be impeached. Frankly, they would still say that TODAY, over ten years after 9/11! And THAT, in a nutshell, is why the West will eventually be Islamized and there is NOTHING that can be done to stop it at this point.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          I remember GW Bush actually using the word “Crusade” to describe the coming invasion of Iraq, inviting the Islamic response and liberal derision.

  • Katherine McChesney

    Pat Condell, an atheist, publishes his anti-muslim videos on youtube. They are truthful and inflammatory. I like what he says.

    • concernedcollegekid

      It’s trendy among young white people to be atheists, and I really think people like Condell who play a role in making young white atheists less PC are doing a lot of good for the future.

      • AB7

        Most atheists and other assorted non-believers take the cowards way out and condemn “all” religions lumping Christianity in particular in with Islam as if there were no distinctions between them. This not only reveals their own ignorance as to the actual doctrines of various religions but given the current urgent and extreme problems the whole world is facing with Islam in particular, any failure of someone to specifically address Islam is in fact doing so solely out of yellow cowardice as they know that Muslims kill those who dare condemn Muhammad or Islam.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Oh? Why should I or anyone toss out their natural logic and rational thought processes in order to preserve themselves and their race? Religious belief requires this. Let me ask you this, why would God after giving you the faculties he has, then ask you to toss the aside and believe the imbecilic doctrines of any religion? Any child with a medium intelligence can see right through the claims of religions and especially Christianity, which is the most absurd of them, if not the most dangerous religion today. I know that because as a 7 year old boy sitting in the choir pew, I was asking those questions and when I asked them of my parents, they gave me obviously silly and untrue answers that were of the same class used to justify the existence of Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, both of which I had learned, did not really exist.

          As a non-believer, I have found studying the history of religions, especially Christianity fascinating, studying it for now for decades (since it has had the greatest effect in the Western World and my life personally). What amazes me is how little Christians (and I mean Conservative Christians posting here) know about the history of their own religion and their own European history. I am convinced that religion, especially Christianity is bad for white people. We DO need some spirituality, however. What their young atheists are missing is that you have a natural void if you do not have something to insert into the inborn need to find psychological sustenance beyond yourself. I have long considered that a knowledge and reverence of one’s ancestry fills that need. I spent a long time researching until I finally found my ancestors and traced them back to the 11th century. I know their names and most of the names of all my forefathers (and mothers) in between. Many ancient European religions considered their ancestry important. It fulfills several purposes because when someone reveres their ancestral line, they automatically do not want to delude it through miscegenation.

          Christianity is phony. It is and always has been the tool for the few to exploit the masses. It has done more damage to the White race than any other religion over nearly two thousand years of abuses and frauds. The idea of Islam marching in and beginning their own dark age in Europe appalls me. But it doesn’t somehow excuse or justify the provision of Christianity as the antidote. Whites must break free of all of these Middle Eastern and non-European based religions. But I agree with anyone that it must be filled with something other than the decadence of characters like Christopher Hitchens. I think it will take a little time, but more whites that are free minded, will show up as race realists.

          • AB7

            Blah blah blah, whatever dude. You have no answer to the problem of Islam. As a so-called rational person you don’t understand the power of faith. The “belief” in “nothing” will not be enough for the West to overcome the belief of Muslims in their god Allah, no matter how false you think it is. As a Christian I believe that Allah of Islam is actually Satan of the Bible. Christians who actually believe, and know, God, will resist Islam, but atheists such as yourself will the first ones to just grab a prayer rug and crawl around on the floor five times a day in order to save your own worthless skin.

            The fact that you seem unable to get through your dull dimwitted skull is that no one cares what you think about their faith or any faith, it means nothing, all that should matter to you, all that I care that you get through your dull dimwitted skull, is that Islam, the actual doctrines, the core faith, requires that you die if you don’t play along with them. If they believed that a pink elephant would fly down one day and rule the world, who cares, except that they will literally physically kill you if you don’t agree. Muhammad, the original, not one of the thousands named after him, would cut your head off in front of your mother and wife or sisters, and then rape whichever of them he or his cohorts decided were worth a spin.

            So cut the crap already, your opinion of Christianity literally means less to me than that huge pile of crap on the farm you step in and then it gets all filled in between the tread of your boots. All that I care about you is that at some point you get it through your dull dimwitted skull that Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy and that they will kill over it.

            Why are there so few atheists in lands controlled by Islam? There are Christians and Jews who hold on to their faith in lands where Islam controls, because they believe. But there are no atheists, because ultimately atheists are cowards, and all of the atheists in lands controlled by Islam are called MUSLIMS.

            So keep your cheap two-bit worthless philosophy to yourself, no one cares, least of all the Muslims who have much bigger plans for you.

          • AB7

            I replied but apparently the post was deleted.

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            Christianity was functional back in the day. When you were part of a church, you were part of a community that cared for one another. Before the welfare state, this was very important. If a father lost his job or was too sick to work, your fellow Christians would make sure his family was taken care of until they could get back on their feet. If someone in the church needed an expensive surgery, they would pool money to help them out.

            I don’t get much out of Christian spirituality, but I have great respect for Christian morals and community.

        • concernedcollegekid

          Yeah, I am NOT a fan of Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens-style atheism, but for me people like Hitchens were a “gateway drug” to people who were less PC (like Pat Condell) and finally, to race realism. Hitchens endorsed Ayaan Hirsi Ali who endorses Charles Murray who is a race realist, and that’s basically the progression I followed in terms of who I read. I know a lot of atheists are wildly hypocritical on race, which I hate, but some of the New Atheists do admit that Islam is worse than Christianity, and some of them even emphasize it. I became anti-Islam before I became a race realist, but the first was certainly a gateway to the second.

  • liam odinson

    well said

  • 5n4k33y35

    Time to send some people home.

  • SintiriNikos

    I think when it all finally goes down in London, it won’t be the native English who save the day against the ullulating, scimitar-rattling hordes, it will be the Poles and the Russians other eastern European recent arrivals. I liken it to the heroics of King Jan III Sobieski of Poland at the Gates of Vienna against the Ottomans.

  • Tired

    Watch as the Muslims undo all of our social progress built on centuries of struggle.

  • David Ashton

    I have rechecked the computations made by Russians themselves, and by foreign statisticians like Professor Rudolf Rummel, and would now agree that 60 million inside the USSR is probably much exaggerated (as also the 6 million Jews gassed or shot by the Nazis). But the numbers are nevertheless substantial; see e.g. Alexander N. Yakovlev, “A Century of Violence in Soviet Russia” (Yale UP 2002) & Prof. Steven Rosefielde, “Red Holocaust” (NY: Routledge, 2010). Come back to this argument when you have considered their Russian evidence.

    I totally condemn the porn trade and sex trafficking, just as I would have condemned the rape by black and white soldiers in Europe during and after WW2, and the rape and murder of German women incited by Ilya Ehrenberg for the Stalin.

    The Russians are white like the present majority of Americans, and I have no objection to a patriotism in either country that resists individual self-indulgence in promiscuous sex or drugs. Just as I am aware of Soviet dependence on western technology and finance in previous decades, so I condemn the damage done the post-Soviet “oligarchs”.