Evangelicals Mobilize 100,000 Churches for Immigration Reform

Ted Hesson, ABC News, January 15, 2013

Evangelical leaders representing more than 100,000 churches across the U.S. are backing immigration reform, and they’re asking their congregants to do the same.

Calling reform a religious imperative, the Evangelical Immigration Table is asking Christians across the country to engage in 40 days of praying and reading scriptures related to immigrants and immigration, what the groups dub the “I Was a Stranger” challenge.

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“Through this challenge we’re connecting with the grassroots Christians,” said Noel Castellanos, the CEO of the Christian Community Development Association. “It’s the men and women that sit in the pews, and helping them to take action, through mail, through phone calls to our legislators.”

The coalition of evangelicals seems determined to make its voice heard in the 2013 immigration reform debate. After President Obama won reelection in November, the group called on him to introduce an immigration bill within 92 days of taking office. The timeline stems from the number of times the Hebrew word for immigrant, “ger,” appears in the Bible.

While the “I Was a Stranger” challenge draws on an old message, the campaign will use social media to help inform congregants. The coalition said its reach extends to more than 850,000 Facebook and Twitter users, and a campaign website features a downloadable toolkit for churches interested in participating.

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  • I thought Christians were supposed to obey the law of the land? Supporting illegal immigrants is against the law.

    • The__Bobster

      http://www.vdare.com/articles/immigration-an-evangelical-approach

      As I’ve shown, the Israelites were supposed to welcome foreigners who believed in their spiritual ideals and wanted to freely become a part of the Israelite community. To speak anachronistically, they were not supposed to welcome foreigners who would come in and burn their flags and sing the national anthem of the Canaanites.

      Christians, therefore, should be advocating an immigration policy that welcomes those who seek to willingly assimilate and become a part of their national culture and heritage.

      Foreigners who became a part of the Israelite community were obligated to
      forsake their old ways and assimilate to their new culture. While for the
      Israelites this transformation was primarily spiritual, it surely carried many
      secular connotations as well. Christians should not have a racial focus, but a
      values focus.

      However, Christians need to recognize that the purpose of immigration policy
      is not to invite more potential converts into our churches.

      But what about highly spiritual illegal immigrants who come to America seeking a better life? Surely they should be welcomed into the American community with open arms, even if they break the law, correct?

      Well, not so fast.

      In general, the Bible supports the idea of obeying the governing authorities
      (Romans 13:1-7). However, when the authorities are rebelling against God’s will ( Revelation 13), the Christian has the obligation to “obey God rather than men” ( Acts 5:29). We must ask ourselves then:

      Is a nation-state protecting its borders and seeking to assimilate its citizens into its culture really engaging in an egregious offense against God?

      Are these laws so offensive towards God that they permit a Christian to break American laws and thumb their noses at other foreign Christians who are seeking to enter the country legally?

      Unless it can be proven that the law or authority in question is in direct
      violation of God’s revealed will, we cannot conclude that illegal immigrants
      (including Christian ones) are pursuing a righteous cause. Why is it seen as
      immoral or unfair for America to actually enforce its already lax standards on immigration? Immigration policy certainly does not rise to the level of an offense against God.

      The biblical verses most commonly used by Christians who support liberal immigration laws appeal to the Israelites to treat fairly the “strangers in the land.” Leviticus 19:33-34 supports this notion:

      “When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The
      alien living with you must be treated as one of your native born. Love him as
      yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.”

      [VDARE.COM note: Or in the King James Version: “If a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.” This gave John Higham the title of his famous book on nativism, still cited by many who do not realize he subsequently changed his mind.]

      There are several ways in which these verses are misinterpreted:

      First of all, these verses were most probably primarily referring to
      foreigners who sought to become a part of the Israelite community. It certainly
      cannot be referring to the pagans in the land who sought to lure the Israelites
      into sin and rebellion against God. Therefore, these passages were certainly not
      directed towards aliens who were breaking laws and causing mayhem in the community.

      Second, these passages say nothing about modern
      democratic nation-states establishing their own guidelines about what is and
      isn’t the appropriate number of “aliens” living in their lands.

      Third, is it treating an illegal alien unfairly by punishing him for breaking the law? When our own legal citizens clearly violate the law, are we being unjust as a society by
      punishing them? No. Rather, it is more unfair to the rest of the society when we
      ignore the rule of law and turn our heads away from the lawbreakers.

      • GM (Australia)

        Thank you for a thoughtful comment on what is really a very complex issue especially for those who are involved with the Christian faith.

        As a side note, when the Asian and Muslim influx first started to happen here in Australia some 30 years ago, these were some of the publicly stated positions by many Christians. (eg letters to the press.)

        “We should be thankful that these people are not arriving with guns or in military uniforms”

        “Islam, it is more or less the same as Christianity, they more or less believe as we do, nothing to be concerned about” (An evangelical Greek pastor who had lived under Islam put me right on that error)

        “We should look at all these newcomers as people that we can evangelize” (True, but conversions to Christianity have been almost insignificant in numbers)

        • bluffcreek1967

          Yep, it’s true that the Muslims are very resistant to Christian conversion because their religion is so interwoven with their society, families and social groups. There is a high cost to pay for Muslims who convert to Christianity. They face family rejection, but also the possibility of being killed for apostasy. Gee, aren’t those Muslims wonderful and isn’t Islam such a ‘religion of peace’?!

          • GM (Australia)

            Yes, and during this time the number of mosques and temples in and around Sydney have continued to grow and grow! The invaders love to buy disused churches, as these are already zoned as places of worship it makes it so much easier for them to build a mosque or temple. Yet so many church leaders here seem to be strangely silent on these matters.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            Christianity wasn’t much different from this in Europe until the Renaissance and it didn’t stop all at once, either. If not kept in check by law and the secular state, I have little doubt that Christianity would seek to reassert itself in the same style.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          This is a great example (Bobster and your reponse) of the futility and uselessness of Christianity. At the center of it is the idea that they might be converted. Race Realists don’t want to integrate with them. We know that when and if that happens miscegenation is next and that destroyes whites and their cultures. It proves AGAIN that Christianity is one of the major problems whites face. That so many whites seem to be unable to let it go for the sake of their own children and their children is what the central concern ought to be and that needs to be recognized and changed.

          • GM (Australia)

            Hello White Plight, I do not feel that we should be using this forum to be so hostile to Christianity, it is one of the most significant parts of our (white) heritage and society. Whatever your beliefs are as to the existence of God, Christianity is an will continue to be far superior to any of the alternatives that arise, be it Islam or Communism or everything else in between.

            Yes I will fully agree that some churches have allowed themselves to be manipulated by the loony left agenda and as one Christian commentator has said here we would probably not even have the problem of Islam in Australia is Christians had been a little bit more pro-active in the past. (eg, no government would have even considered Islamic immigration for fear of a public backlash)

          • Zora_Nitshe

            I agree, being hostile to Christians is a bad idea,
            on this forum and in general. Christianity is not the main problem, it seems. Perhaps
            the main problem for the White Race is that almost any White person holds at
            least one Jew as a god or semi-god. For some it is Jesus, for Poles it is
            Virgin Mary, for some it is Einstein, for some it is Freud, for some it is
            Marx, for some it is Trotsky, for some it is Mark Levin, for some it is St.
            Paul, for some it is St. Peter, for some it is Chomsky, for some it is MLK
            (he had Jewish advisors), for those who like tricks it is Houdini, for the most
            curious ones it is Elvis Presley, and for the most stupid White people it is
            Elie Wiesel. As long as Jews hold such god-like status among Whites, it will be
            hard for White Race to control its destiny. Our belief into Jewish superiority is the key
            problem for us.

          • David Ashton

            The Anglican Bishop Henson made a perfectly acceptable Christian case against alien immigration and miscegenation in his Gifford Lectures. See his “Christian Morality” (Oxford 1936).

      • Extropico

        Mass immigration with government racial benefits to them is more akin to a campaign of war against us to deprive us of the democratic right to retain our sovereignty. Americans donate food and other humane treatment to others both within and without our borders. I do believe there is a significant difference between acquiescing to a war campaign against us and providing appropriate humanitarian aid.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        You can turn yourself inside out, “talk” until you drop, but several things will never change; 1. Christians are not Jews. 2. Christianity is not about preserving any one race or ethnic group. 3. Relying on the Bible as a guide for justifying any policy aimed at solving these problems is not only useless, it is an exercise in self-delusion.

    • bluffcreek1967

      Right on, Crystal! Christians, in fact, are commanded to obey the governing authorities and established laws (so long as they don’t violate clear New Testament teachings). Thus, Christians ought to be urging the illegal immigrants to RETURN to their country of origin, and immigrate only through legal channels – for this is the law of the land!

      Gee, I wonder how many Evangelical Hispanic churches are encouraging the illegal immigrants among their members to return to Mexico or El Salvador?? I bet they’re not!

  • Eagle_Eyed

    I want to know where in the Bible it says that justice should not met upon those who break the law. In proposing amnesty for people who would disrespect the laws of a foreign nation, these so-called evangelicals are essentially saying that they can forgive sins when in fact it is only God who has this authority. Since illegal aliens sin against an entire nation (by affecting all tax payers through welfare services/schools and the nation’s stock/heritage through demographic replacement), so why are these people speaking for all of us, particularly when legitimate means for determining immigration policies (i.e. the laws/rules already on the books) have been in place for so long?

  • zim

    why do people believe all this bullshit? believe none of what you hear or read and only half of what you see. do people think the arrogant media has integrity and honesty and never lies or rigs or manipulates or edits film or voice?

  • we are our own worst enemy

  • Old Right

    How did I miss this? It never occurred to me that Jesus was plugging for illegal aliens. All along I’d naively assumed that he was talking about INDIVIDUALS showing hospitality and mercy toward those in need.

    Christians as individuals should show kindness toward others, but trying to take this passage out of Matthew 25 and apply it to national immigration legislation is going way off the deep end. I’m sure the Roman Empire had fairly strict immigration policies in the first century AD (that later changed, and we all know what happened afterward, don’t we?), which ensured that the “strangers” Jesus spoke of were probably Roman citizens or subjects.

    The real reason evangelicals are falling for all this nonsense is probably because the Catholics have been stumping for illegal aliens for years and as most of them are Catholic, it increases the size of their membership. I’d be willing to bet that the evangelicals are wanting to help themselves to a share of the newcomers.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      Faith and Heritage does a good job of exposing frauds like Evangelical Immigration Table. Basically their theory is that many of these “leaders” who propose left-wing political agendas which run either counter to or mask true Christian teaching do so because they want the praise of the world. It is unwise to say, support a family of foreign strangers if it affects the relationship you have with your wife and kids (perhaps it makes *your* family less safe and the financial costs unbearable) so why is it okay to force your own nation to support foreigners who have such high social costs?

      • Paul

        Jesus never said that we should love our families. On the contrary! Jesus says:
        “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father, mother, wife, children,
        brothers, and sisters, as well as his own life, he can’t be my disciple.” (Luke
        14:26). He only taught to love our enemies [Matthew
        5, 43-44: “Love
        your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you”]. So Evangelicals are doing exactly what he (Jesus) was asking in fact. But I wouldn’t follow such teaching if I were you. Hail to Odin!

        • bluffcreek1967

          Nonsense! The context of ‘hating’ one’s family members is in relation to the cost of discipleship. It’s referring to the primacy of placing the kingdom of God first in one’s life, not literally ‘hating’ one’s parents nor of encouraging mass illegal invasion of any country.

          Please recognize that NOT all Evangelical Christians would support massive third-world immigration into white, western civilized nations. A good many of us would NEVER support such things, and there are quite a few ‘race-realists among us!

          • razorrare

            Paul & John are one and the same Troll…

          • The__Bobster

            I’ve noticed. He doesn’t even bother to change his message.

          • purestocles

            Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t make them a troll for crying out loud. Geez, can’t you guys tolerate a little disagreement? What the heck is the point of a discussion if everyone agrees? That wouldn’t be humans reasoning, just a chorus of bullfrogs.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            But if you give primacy to the “kingdom of god” in your life, (as I observe Christians) it seems to displace full, intellectual participation in creating and preserving a free government (as in representative democracy). Christianity was and still basically is an apocalyptic religion. In the first centuries of its existence, it converted through fear of the end and the judgement that was promised. People believed this most fervently. (Read Gibbon’s Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire for references). These two aspects alone; the idea that the world is ending soon in a cataclysm and that one’s mind is set on being ruled primarily by a “royal” supernatural hierarchy alone suggest loudly an individual not suited to participate in a free society or be affected by its politics except in promoting the state of theocracy (as it is in above, may it be below).

          • bluffcreek1967

            No, not necessarily. The NT teaches both anticipation of Christ’s return, yet an obligation to one’s family and community. There is nothing that prohibits engaging in politics or social welfare toward others. There is both a Now and Not Yet aspect to the NT’s teaching which gives Christians the obligation to live responsibly in this present world (and all which that involves) and yet be vigilant for Christ’s appearing. They are not mutually exclusive.

          • Kblankenship7

            I think you are confusing premillenial, dispensational evanjellyfish with historical Christianity. Charles Martel, Karl der Grosse , etc. would not have known what religion you were describing. Please be a little more open-minded. Also, your rhetoric serves only to divide pro-Europeans.

          • Zora_Nitshe

            Yes, it seems true that Historic Christianity is much better than New Testament (NT). I would even suggest that Historic Christianity accepted into itself some good pagan principles such as the desire to have many children and leave a healthy and also fruitful offspring in this world. Jesus was not actively encouraging people to marry and to have many children (he even suggested that it is better not to get married). Yet many branches of Historic Christian tradition do encourage marriages and multiple children, one way or another. See for example how Catholics stand against contraceptive devices (e.g., condoms).

          • Zora_Nitshe

            Yes, it is true that many Christians a good people and love White Race. Perhaps the main problem is not some multicultural statements of Jesus but, rather, the simple fact that all big media and Hollywood are owned or run by people of middle eastern or khazar origin. They do not want strong White Race as a competitor for survival. Thus a good 50% of Christians (as anybody else) have been brainwashed, through these controlled media, into believing that White Race must disappear through race mixing with immigrants from third-world countries.

          • Joseph

            Thank you.

    • JohnEngelman

      I’m sure the Roman Empire had fairly strict immigration policies in the first century AD (that later changed, and we all know what happened afterward, don’t we?)

      – Old Right

      I am unaware that the Roman Empire ever had immigration policies. There was never an influx of Negroes into the Empire, or even of Semites. The influx was of Germanic peoples from the north.

      • Right Flank

        The Goths, displaced by the Huns, showed up at the Empire’s border asking for favors. Once in, the Goths took advantage of an already disintegrating state, and the downfall was exponentially accelerated. The bell tolls for us. Immigration kills. Immigration to a culture weak in the knees slaughters.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Very generalized and so misleading. Gibbon cites the superstition and panic caused by Christianity and the competition within it among leaders to be the major factor.

      • jeffaral

        The Romans imported many slaves -many of them Christians- into Italy. One of the causes for their downfall!

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        You ought to read up on it. In the first century Roman citizenship was granted to many outside of Italy and it was a bustling international city and state. “All roads lead to Rome” was not just a saying, it was a fact. Those roads had been built to allow the armies to get around quickly, but they went two ways. Also, there were many Jews in Rome in the first century. Nero’s neice converted to Judaism and it was the most frequently converted to religion in Rome until the arrival of Christianity.

        The Germanic tribes once conquered, were often soon put into military service by agreement. They ended up becoming the majority and finally the generals and then the kings of Italy as the empire broke up. But Julius Caesar brought a legion of Algerians into Gaul during his conquest. The Romans often did this and settled them to help Romanize local tribes. A legion of Samartians were brought into Britain and settled in Northumberland in the Second century. (Those stories are in “The Ten Thousand Year Explosion.”) All the rest is in Gibbon.

    • George White

      Agreed. It’s to put butts in the seats. Bottom line is revenue enhancement. They are willing to sell out America for a few chump change tithes.

      • bluffcreek1967

        I think there is some truth in this, although it would not be the whole truth. Many Christians are sincere in this matter of immigration, but sincerely wrong and woefully misinformed.

        • Useful idiots come in different stripes. Many Christians also believe that the world really is only 6,000 years old and that was created in seven days. We have the good sense not to listen to them when they pontificate on science. Let’s have the good sense not to listen to them when they start prattling about national policy.

          • blight14

            Felix, I read that nearly FIFTY PERCENT of them believe that ‘6,000 year old earth’ nonsense……..its beyond belief if that is true.

          • Kblankenship7

            Are you saying that those who believe in the Bible are unwelcome here?

          • jeffaral

            Their “religion” is called Crazianity! It’s totally irational, like Islam!

    • Xerxes22

      Not true. That’s just Protestant paranoia. It is only recently that the Catholic Church has started to support illegals and they did not do it to get them into the pews or for their donations. The Catholic Church is supported by the donations of Euro-Americans. The Catholic Church spends far more money on programs for these illegals than they would ever get back in donations. Hispanics do no put much in the collection plate.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        The Catholic Church in Mexico and South America sure made itself rich off the “donation” of the people there. The fact is that they took it as forced “donations.” We need to remember that Mexico (and elsewhere) sends us their poorest rejects. But the Catholic Church has assisted them for decades now. And the Church also encourages miscegenation. I can’t count the Catholic white girls, often Irish, that marry Hispanics largely due to the common bond of Catholicism.

    • Athling

      So who is Mr. Noel Castellanos? Would it be possible that he has a personal agenda? Do nonwhites have a bottom-line position that in the final analysis, race is their ultimate decider?

      Here are a couple of quotes from Castellanos:

      “My original ‘hood’: Weslaco, TX (a few miles from the Mexican border).”

      “The theme song to my life (and) the movie title for the story of my life would be: ‘A Day Without A Mexican’ (bad movie, but great theme about our nation’s dependence on Mexican immigrants).”

      Mr. Castellanos is the chief executive officer of the Christian Community Development Association. One of the philosophy statements of the CCDA is the “Just Distribution of Resources” with the following statement:

      Redistribution [of resources] brings the principles of Justice back to the underserved communities. Justice has left communities of color and lower economic status, leaving an unjust criminal court and prison system, unjust hiring practices, unjust housing development and injustice in the educational institutions. Justice has been available only to people with the economic means to acquire just treatment.

      Mr. Castellanos has made it quite clear that first and foremost he is racially Mexican. That is where his loyalty is. Secondly, he holds secular leftist political beliefs with the “redistribution of wealth” as one of the primary principles. All of this is then wrapped in the cloak of “Christianity.”

      To be sure, some Christian leaders have taken scripture out of context and misapplied it to immigration. These leaders, like Richard Land, need to be challenged and shown the error in their interpretation of biblical principles. He and others are leading their people astray.

      • Athling

        As an example of the extent to which Christians are being manipulated and used to hasten the demise of our nation one need look no farther than Obama’s religious affairs advisor, Shaun Casey.

        Towing the radical left’s line and helping to reinforce Obama’s position on immigration, Mr. Casey said the following;

        Jesus was an illegal alien… the disciples were displaced people. That Jesus was an illegal ought to shape how we engage the current debate… in the current debate over immigration policy it distresses me to no end that so many of my fellow church goers ignore this fundamental tenet that should be central to our identity.

        Not only is that statement false, neither Jesus nor the disciples were illegal aliens (all lived within the Roman empire), but it shows how desperate leftists are to end this nation as we know it through population-replacing, massive, Third World immigration.

        Somehow, Christians are supposed to believe that destroying white nations throughout the Western world by demographically turning those countries over to racial aliens is a good, biblically sound doctrine. Disgusting and amazing.

      • Athling

        As an example of the extent to which Christians are being manipulated and used to hasten the demise of our nation one need look no farther than Obama’s religious affairs advisor, Shaun Casey.

        Towing the radical left’s line and helping to reinforce Obama’s position on immigration, Mr. Casey said the following;

        Jesus was an illegal alien… the disciples were displaced people. That Jesus was an illegal ought to shape how we engage the current debate… in the current debate over immigration policy it distresses me to no end that so many of my fellow church goers ignore this fundamental tenet that should be central to our identity.

        Not only is that statement false, neither Jesus nor the disciples were illegal aliens (all lived within the Roman empire), but it shows how desperate leftists are to end this nation as we know it through population-replacing, massive, Third World immigration.

        Somehow, Christians are supposed to believe that destroying white nations throughout the Western world by demographically turning those countries over to racial aliens is a good, biblically sound doctrine. Disgusting and amazing.

        • GM (Australia)

          Yes, I completely agree that Christians and Churches are very much being manipulated by a very left leaning, anti-white agenda. The constant calls for so called “social justice” are always anti-white and often anti-male and really have very little to do with Christianity.

        • David Ashton

          It is quite a serious matter that these lies and the equally false argument based on them should be voiced by the “religious affairs adviser” to a President. In the historic context our “neighbors” are our compatriots and this liar is bearing false witness against them. Illegal aliens should be “central” to American “identity”?

      • Mike

        “shown the error in their interpretation of biblical principles”
        ONE CAN INTERPRET ANYTHING AND IN ANY MANNER DESIRED. Interpretation does not reveal the truth. Pay attention to direct statements only and see what is their direct meaning, If you interpret-you change the meaning.

        • Athling

          Translating from Greek or Aramaic to English requires interpretation. Not all words will translate exactly from one language to another. In this case the translator must use his judgement based on context and so on.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            You would be interested in reading theologian Bart Ehrman’s books, in particular, Misquoting Jesus. It turns out that researches have been trying to figure out what Jesus had really said for hundreds of years. By comparing the then known oldest copies of scripture, an Oxford scholar named John Mill’s found 30,000 variation’s on translations of words based on his access to about 100 Greek translations that existed in 1707. Since then, hundreds more have been found, in fact, 5,700 more. Today, more errors in translation have been found than there are words and still counting! Script in these oldest copies is nothing like today’s script; words and letters are run together in a continue sequence. So there is a plethora of accidental changes as well as a huge body of modifications that were intentional. Ehrman deals with both. The overall and inevitable understanding emerges to show that Christianity was (and still is) a highly manufactured religion that stole, took on, appropriated and changed to suit those who used it as a tool for domination and political control. And this struggle for political control began very early on in the First Century. Gibbon certainly provides the most accessible accounts of this in the Decline and Fall.

          • David Ashton

            There are a number of useful critiques of “Misquoting Jesus”. Ehrman makes many good points, but you build more on them historically than they actually support. See e.g. Craig L. Blomberg, “The Historical Reliability of the Gospels” (Downers Grove, Illinois: IVP Academic, 2007), Appendix B,”Textual Criticism and the Gospels”.

      • jeffaral

        “Just distribution of resources?” Just another christian Marxist!

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Christians were doing this by the end of the first century and grew the religion by taking the rich converts (who willingly gave all) wealth and redistributing it to poor converts. In fact, everything I see in the NT supports anything but the notion that Jesus and the subsequent church supported the notion of the wealthy individual as righteous or desirable. Later, the church became a system of supporting itself on the backs of the poor, but in the first centuries it was not that way at all. It functioned as Jewish religious communities had for centuries; as communes. In fact, the best research suggests that Jesus was an Essene, a sect that believed in a soon arriving apocalypse and that functioned as a commune.

          • David Ashton

            The medieval hospitals were largely of Christian origin, and assistance to the poor has continued all through the years; in fact, the current “beef” on this site is that the clergy do too much for the unproductive.

  • Steven Bannister

    I’m getting to the point where I really hate Christianity. Never did before.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      This isn’t Christianity. It is cultural-Marxism inspired feel-goodism. Groups like CCDA are essentially asking that the entire society pay (in taxes/social benefits/ESL classes, etc.) for their left-wing agenda. True compassion for poor immigrants does not mean ignoring their crimes.

    • falsedawn

      It’s not Christianity you hate. It’s the stinking leadership who’ve taken over the faith and distorted the teachings of Christ you and any good man should hate.

    • razorrare

      Dont hate Christianity…hate those who are responsible for the degradation of Christianity…

      http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/01/the-jewish-origins-of-multiculturalism-in-sweden/

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPgXodEIXWY

      • jeffaral

        Oh Yeah, don’t hate Communism…hate those who are responsible for the degradation of Communism… Time to wake up: Christianity was always an anti-Nature ideology!

    • bluffcreek1967

      Your hatred is misdirected. This is not representative of New Testament Christianity.

    • [Guest]

      I suspect that quite a few Christians recognize this “Christianity” (which is much the same as the “Christianity” of Sharpton, Obama, and Jackson) as corrupt and hate it even more than you do.

    • Christians who disagree need to vote with their dollars. Withhold donations to your parish. When all those illegals are amnestied, and the economy really goes tits-up, you’ll be glad you didn’t give to your church’s Marxists and saved it for your family’s use, instead.

  • Stan_Mute

    As I’ve said all along, all our problems in this country can be laid squarely at the feet of only ONE religious group. This is the same group that ended slavery without repatriating the slaves to Africa. It’s the same group that today brings us African refugees by the boatload and deposits them in places like Columbus, Ohio or Minneapolis, Minnesota.

    Christianity will destroy the white race before this is over.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      The white race will cease to exist as long as it continues to reject Christ. Europe is becoming less-and-less white as it becomes more-and-more secular. Why is that?

      • It is the embracing of christ that will eliminate the race. remember, we’re “all equal in the eyes of god”. Do you dare go against the word of god? So the black man and the mexican who are destroying your country are your equals.

        • Eagle_Eyed

          Where in the Bible does it teach the egalitarianism you quoted?

          • The__Bobster

            Sunday school class.

            Jesus loves the little children,
            All the children in the world~~~

          • bluffcreek1967

            Interestingly, even God’s love is discriminating as many Bible passages can attest. There is a GENERAL love that God has for all men, but He has a very unique and special love for His elect. Even God’s love and favor upon Israel was not something he gave to the surrounding pagan nations.

            Additionally, the Greek term ‘world’ used in John 3:16 does not refer to all men universally, but instead denotes the world in its international sense. The point was that God’s love would now extend farther than simply the borders of Israel, but out into the entire world of men and nations. This would have been a revolutionary thought among Jews during the first century era who tended to see God’s love and grace limited exclusively to Israel.

          • It’s not so much what the bible states, it’s what the preachers and reverends and priests are telling their “flock” every sunday.

          • Blaak Obongo

            It’s not so much what the bible states, it’s what the preachers and
            reverends and priests are telling their “flock” every Sunday.

            Bingo.

            It makes absolutely no difference what the Bible does or does not say about “turning the other cheek” or “welcoming the stranger.” The only thing that matters is what those who consider themselves Christians believe the scriptures tell them. And what the overwhelming majority of them believe — rightly or wrongly — is that Christians are obliged to be non-resistant to invasion and smile as millions and millions more swarm into the country.

            PS: Odin does exist.

        • bluffcreek1967

          No, the Bible NEVER teaches or even hints that all humans are equal. Yes, all humans have been created in the image of God, but there’s nothing in the Bible suggestive that all races of people, and all cultures of the world are of equal value.

      • MarcusTrajanus

        Secular Europe and Christian America are in the same boat. That tells me our problem isn’t about Christianity one way or another. We have bought into the lie that human populations are all equal and that diversity is vibrant, rich, exiting while White culture is dull, bland, and boring. Plus we have grown fat and complacent in our safe and prosperous societies, so even if we dislike diversity we aren’t motivitated to deal with it the way it needs to be dealt with. But all that’s changing now, look at Greece.

        • Zora-Nitshe

          The problem is the absence of any widespread religion which would be explicitly pro-White. Jews have their ethno-religion, which is explicitly pro-Jewish (in terms of
          ancestry and genes). Thus they are strong and act collectively to strengthen
          their homeland (Israel) and to weaken and/or exploit their competitors (Europe,
          USA). If White People want to survive, we need a religion that is explicitly
          pro-White. I doubt that the Teaching of Jesus and other Jews associated with
          him would do us any good. If anything, their teaching is an ideological weapon,
          analogous to HIV virus in the sense that it acts slowly but still manages to
          destroy the immunity of European people and causes the decease of
          multiculturalism and diversity.
          Our native religion is needed and it should be based on European traditions and sources, in my opinion. Perhaps Creativity would do?

          • Why must racial nationalism or ethnic nationalism be religion or faith dependent? I see absolutely no contradiction with adhering to a hypothetically egalitarian Christianity yet pursing racio-ethnic nationalism. Spirituality in this box, corporeal world in that box. Christ Himself even endorsed that paradigm! (“Give unto Caesar…Give Unto God”)

          • Zora_Nitshe

            Why must racial nationalism or ethnic nationalism be religion or faith dependent? Well, because it is hard to find a logical, non-religious answer to why should I worry about the White Race. For now it is still in a pretty good shape. Its demise is expected in the future when I will not be around. So why should I care. To answer this, one needs to have a moral principle stating that protecting White Race is a virtue. Sets of moral principles are usually called “religion” because one cannot derive them form science.

          • Does morality sometimes have to bleed over from one’s spiritual box to one’s corporeal box? Yes. However, it might still be possible to hold to morality in one’s corporeal box even if one never has or gets or wants a spiritual box.

          • David Ashton

            We have children and grandchildren.
            Nietzsche somewhere recommends a “socialism of time” – respect for ancestors and concern for our descendants. Galton suggested that eugenics should become a religion.

    • razorrare

      see my post above…it is those who are responsible for subverting and degrading Christianity that is destroying Western Culture and the White race.

    • [Guest]

      >>>Christianity will destroy the white race before this is over.

      In truth, it is no coincidence that the transformation of Christianity into a social-justice movement has taken place at the same time as the elevation of blacks and browns to their present godlike status.

      The problem is not Christianity. The problem is that the long march through the institutions succeeded in every area, including religion. The “Christianity” that we see around us today is a recent invention.

      • Zora-Nitshe

        Yes, but Christianity has no internal mechanism to protect from multiculturalism and diversity. Thus is not good enough.

        • Ain’t we lucky we got ’em

          Nor does atheism.

          • Which is why I endorse the paradigm Christ Himself ordered, of spirituality in this compartment and the real corporeal world in that compartment. Then it wouldn’t matter what “defense mechanisms” religion A or religion B had or didn’t have against multiracialist sickness. And we wouldn’t have to make corporeal real world demands from our spiritual compartments. Our defense of our own being would come from our real world compartments. Plain words, we don’t need religion qua religion to be on our side for us to be on our side. We just need us to be on our side in our real world boxes.

  • storibund

    I’m not an atheist by any means… but I’m beginning to think mainstream Christianity is for schmucks.

    I work for a traditionally-conservative protestant denomination, and can tell you that these people have become thoroughly brainwashed by the left. They fall all over themselves to prove how culturally diverse, socially just, and politically correct they can be.

    • IstvanIN

      A friend told me I wasn’t a good Christian because of my views on third world immigration as well as what we should do with illegal aliens and anchor babies. I said show me where in the Bible’s New Testament it says we are obligated to sacrifice our families, villages and nations for foreigners.

      • John

        New
        Testament: Jesus never
        said that we should love our families. On the contrary! Jesus says:

        “If anyone
        comes to me and does not hate his father, mother, wife, children,

        brothers,
        and sisters, as well as his own life, he can’t be my disciple.” (Luke

        14:26). He
        only taught to love our enemies [Matthew 5, 43-44: “Love your enemies,
        bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you”]. So
        Evangelicals are doing exactly what he (Jesus) was asking in fact. But I
        wouldn’t follow such teaching if I were you. Hail to Odin!

        • razorrare

          Luke 14:26 “Anyone who wants to be my follower must love me far more than he does his own Father,Mother,wife,children,brothers,or sisters–yes,more than his own life—otherwise he cannot be my disciple…tell us what the Bible says in Revelations…thaat part where it warns that “those who add to this book so will i add unto them(fill in tthe blank) and those who take away from this book so shall i take away from them (fill in the blank).

          • IstvanIN

            Loving the Lord first doesn’t require sacrificing your own family.

          • razorrare

            True…and sacrificing your own White children’s interest for other minority children’s interest is not a requirement that I would find the Lord promoting,but quite on the contrary…

            In Mark-24 we read:

            24Then Jesus left Galilee
            and went north to the region of Tyre.i He didn’t want anyone to know which house
            he was staying in, but he couldn’t keep it a secret. 25Right away a woman who
            had heard about him came and fell at his feet. Her little girl was possessed by
            an evilj
            spirit, 26and she begged him to
            cast out the demon from her daughter.

            Since she was a Gentile, born in Syrian Phoenicia, 27Jesus
            told her, “First I should feed the children—my own family, the
            Jews.k It
            isn’t right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs.”

            28She replied, “That’s
            true, Lord, but even the dogs under the table are allowed to eat the scraps from
            the children’s plates.”

            29“Good
            answer!” he said. “Now go home, for the demon has left
            your daughter.” 30And when she arrived
            home, she found her little girl lying quietly in bed, and the demon was
            gone.
            Can you appreciate the humility this woman showed Jesus and the faith she had in Jesus being able to cure her sick child…even though Jesus tested her faith by calling her a dog…wow,how refreshing it would be if those who come to America looking for a better life for their family-children would show such humility as well.Instead of begging us for help they demand,and instead of asking,they take…
            Within this Biblical verse we can also ascertain that Christ approves of those who put their children and their familys(including race)First and would not be approving of those who did not.

          • Zora_Nitshe

            Please excuse my straightforward analysis, but this story about “Gentile, born in Syrian Phoenicia” seems to confirm my suspicion that Jesus was a Jewish supremacist. He wanted to serve Jews but not Gentiles. He compares people who are not Jewish to dogs. This is what Talmud claims also. This dues not make an honor to Jesus.

        • The__Bobster

          Find yourself a bridge, troll.

          • Paul-John

            Sorry for trolling a little bit…but, It seems to me that Evangelicals simply follow the example set by Jesus to the logical end. Jesus did not shown much respect even to his own family. Check this out: (Matthew 12:48) 46.While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” 48. He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49. Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
            So, accordingly, if illegal aliens are doing the will of his Father, they should replace our brother and sisters. This is exactly what is taught by many churches these days. Sorry far making these sharp statments, I just do not see how the actions of Evangelicals contradict Jesus words.
            Frankly, I don’t think Jesus would suport pro-White nationalism at all!
            He was a pro-Israel guy in fact.
            So, Hail to Odin??

          • bluffcreek1967

            Boy do you need both a course in biblical hermeneutics (principles of interpretation) and one in logic!

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            Oh, and is that “principle” make it mean what is required? What that is is actually called “apology” – that is, to explain away obvious problems and contradictions. The majority of New Testament researchers, the truly objective scholars such as theologian Bart Ehrman (Misquoting Jesus) show that the NT has been added to and changed so much that it never had much to do with anything a crucified Jew in the first century ever really said or did. As for logic, only circular logic allows for belief in the first place; “The Bible is true because God says so, even though God cannot be consulted for confirmation of this because the Bible says not to question him, but rely on us to tell you, because the Bible says you should.”

          • David Ashton

            Not correct to say the “majority” of (competent) NT researchers show that the NT “never had much to do with anything a crucified Jew in the first century ever really said or did”.
            The collection of documents now as the Bible nevertheless should be subjected to objective historical research like any others.

          • Kblankenship7

            What makes Ehrman “objective”?

          • Joseph

            Jesus criticized the HYPOCRITICAL Jewish LEADERS for doing exactly what the liberal left is doing to WHITES today- oppressing with unjust laws and taxes from which they exempted themselves and racism which is NOW directed solely against whites by those in power and *again* the Jews are largely responsible while Israel continues their genocidal mission against everyone else on earth. Here, whites are marginalized and hamstrung with “Affirmative Action” laws and the so-called “clergy”, the professional “Christians” promoting this nonsense, are simply interested in keeping asses in the pews to keep their job of reassuring their congregation of misfits in their continuous lifestyles of sin.

            Israel was to accept the “stranger who kept Gods laws and precepts” which is NOT what these immigrants are doing. They refuse to assimilate. Jews were NEVER to intermarry with outsiders either, but we ARE to do so as often as possible. The bible is replete with admonitions against sloth and violence but that isn’t mentioned by the white-haters in this “evengelical” movement for some reason.

            “…rightly dividing the word of truth…”

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            Your problem is that you think that the Old Testament included in the Christian Bible pertains to Christians and that it can be used to make excuses for the problems the NT creates for Christians. Even you keep referring to Jews. That’s right, it was about Jews. Then you complain that the immigrants (or whoever) refuse to integrate. This is a great example of the disconnect with logic and race realism common in Christians. Who wants them to assimilate? That’s the goal of Diversity and Multiculturalism!

            So make up your mind. Do you want non-whites to integrate into white society (and therefore race) or do you want to retain your racial and ethnic identity?

            Blaming the Jews for everything going wrong is a poor excuse for not doing the brain work required here. Besides, Jews and Israel has its own problems with integration and lose of Jewish identity going on. But you are making such stereotyped comments and misinformed assumptions that typify someone afraid to examine the problem close up in fear of seeing their own faults magnified.

          • Ditto

            It is true that whites are responsible for allowing themselves to be duped into depravity. We have been warned time and again. Then again, when an alien looks like you and pretends to be one of you all the while working in the dark to undermine you it is understandable how we keep getting in this situation.

          • Joseph

            I’ve lost my edit twice so here is the short(er) answer.

            I really don’t know what your beef is with me except it appears, that I am not “pure” enough in my disdain other races. There is no disconnect. I would *prefer* that all peoples regardless of their appearance were of the same mind and *could* assimilate but that seems impossible. You, apparently are satisfied, or perhaps pleased that such strife exists. I am not. I wish it were not so but I am a “realist”, not simply a “racist”. Separate but equal is workable for me and nowhere proscribed in scripture. I only made the point that the Jews think that it is suitable for them, but NOT for me.

            “Diversity and Multiculturalism” as you well know are NOT about assimilation; they are about replacing white, Euro/American Christian culture with everything else as we, more than anyone else inhibit a global collectivist hegemony.

            One can’t separate the OT or NT from the Jews. There they are. And Jews cannot be separated from the destructive liberal idealogy permeating the church, educational, and political system of America. The NAACP, SPLC, ACLU formed by or controlled by Jews so they DO figure prominently in the problem of interracial strife that we now enjoy as part of the destruction of white culture.

            This is not some failing or contradiction between the NT and OT that I need to reconcile or apologize for. Just because it is lost on you that does not mean that the understanding is lost on all.

            I have no “fear” of seeing my faults or “afraid” to examine anything. This is a cheap attempt at insult disguised as erudite intercourse. I have been led to my understanding of race issues as I have studied genetics and male violence. I have long been a Christian but that does not negate the realities of the physical creation and I think that racial differences have an evolutionary basis that can’t be ignored. Jews certainly don’t.

          • Kblankenship7

            The Church is Israel now.

          • Temporary Layoffs

            You’d have a tough time convincing Abe Foxman that Jesus was pro-Israel or any of the other members of the Synagogue of Satan for that matter.

          • purestocles

            As Nietzsche observed, ever since Constantine converted to Christianity the heroic Bronze age Gods and Goddesses of the Aryan people were cast aside in favor of the All-Pervasive-Relentlessly-Scorching-Eye-in-the-Dessert-Sky-God of the Semitic People. And as belief in this Mono-Eyed-God and his unnaturally-conceived Son made its way North, it had to be modified to accommodate the culture and Zeitgeist of the Germanic people i.e. evolved from Catholicism to Protestantism.

            Nietzsche said that for as long as you bow down to the Jew’s God and his timid Son, you will be enslaved to their feminine morality of turning the other cheek and meekness at the expense of the manly virtues and virility of the Bronze-aged Thor and Odin (and Zeus, Hera, Apollo and Aphrodite).

            Was he right? Or just nuts?

          • David Ashton

            Nietzsche said that God was dead, but generally had a higher opinion of OT Judaism than NT Christianity. He did not advocate a return pagan polytheism, northern or southern. He wanted an aristocratic politics and an incipient eugenics. I think he overstated the case that Christianity was a slave morality and Christians are not the only people uncomfortable with his contempt, more apparent than real, for human compassion. He was one of the greatest minds of his time and ours, and only “nuts” sadly at the end of his life.

          • purestocles

            It’s true that Nietzsche “didn’t advocate a return to pagan polytheism” but he was unsparing in his contempt towards Christian “virtues” (especially pity) as they were practiced by his contemporaries–as I’m sure you’re aware. And he did hold the cultivated aristocracy of the Greeks (not Socratic) as superior to the slave morality of the Christians. So while this doesn’t represent a literal call for a return to the simple charms of Mt. Olympus and those who dwelt there, what then was left for Nietzsche who had indeed struck every God with his tuning hammer and found them all to be duds i.e. Idols? His freedom, he said.

            But can a man live with neither Gods nor Idols? Paul Tillich felt not. God, the ineffable Ground of Being is too Great and Abstract a conception to provide much comfort when one is e.g. sick with fear while staring Death in the face while fighting a losing battle against a terminal disease. And so we (humans) invariably turn aside and accept a comforting illusion to the stark terror of the Unknown. We are weak, Christ said. And Christianity, sensing that mankind stood in need of a God more immanent, knowable and comforting than the aloof abstraction of Buddhist-like At-one-ment with the Universe, claims that God became Flesh that he may share the sufferings of we, the inheritors of the recipients of Prometheus’s gift of Fire, Foresight, Despair and Blind Hope.

            Your comment that “Christians are not the only people uncomfortable with his contempt, more apparent than real, for human compassion.” is right on target–especially the “more apparent than real” part, as Nietzsche, personally, seemed (from reading his collected letters) to have been a humanly-engaged, friendly (to his friends) person.

          • David Ashton

            Personally I have read a great deal of Christian apologetics and in the past tried and failed to reach God in prayer, but I have come – reluctantly – to the conclusion that the Incarnation is not true and that there is neither eternal torment nor bliss after death; my mind remains open, but enough of me – let’s get on with the shared task of preserving our western civilization and the peoples that created it.

        • David Ashton

          1. Odin does not exist.
          2. Neither the New Testament nor the Hebrew scriptures advocate or support foreign invasion and occupation of the homelands of believers.
          3. Neither Matthew 25 nor the Good Samaritan parable, properly understood, support the notion of open-door alien migration.
          4. True, such passages as you quote, which were seized upon by Nietzsche and others as signs of the self-destroying “morality” of Christianity, provide an entry for strategic manipulation by (atheist) Cultural Marxists and others cynically seeking to use the churches to destroy the church, but you need to understand the hyperbolic idiom which Jesus used to illustrate the personal relations following from his two Commandments, on which hung all the Law and Prophets: (i) Complete private spiritual submission to and love for God, and (ii) personal compassion and love for compatriots (= neighbors).
          5. The late-modern western transformation of the churches into puppets of political correctness, secular fashions and national suicide, with a bit of superstition thrown in, is hardly what Jesus had in mind.
          6. In my view, these considerations can be accepted by Christians and non-Christians alike.

          • Steve_Ro

            Odin does exit, the last time I checked. On the other hand, Jesus died long ago, as every historian would tell you.

            The Teaching of Jesus is compatible with multiculturalism and diversity and encourages these destructive philosophies by saying that all people are equal before god. Fortunately we know that Christianity is not always in line with the Teaching of Jesus. Thus, with some luck, the Christianity, or at least some branches of it, might oppose multiculturalism and diversity and might be neutral to the idea of preservation of White Race.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            But those who claim to be Christians can be held to any of the many directives that defeat any notion of racial specialty or the need to accept everyone as a brother in Christ. This is why it is so easy for other Christians to criticize those that oppose multiculturalism and diversity. These people are really not Christians at all. They just don’t realize that they ought to change their nomenclature and holidays back to what they were before the Christian Conquest.

            Superstition is superstition. Odin only lives in our myth, but the spirit of those myths and the validity it provides for us as a people is what matters.

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            That Odinism has a real good chance of catching on doesn’t it? If you look at what Christ taught it’s the perfect plan to defeat those who say they are Jews and are not.

          • joesolargenius

            And God claimed the Israelites as his people ,that definitely says it all .
            If God can proudly claim a particular race to be his people then this proves how important self identity is to all living things , an act of belonging to something an alleged greater good that defines whom you are favorably !

          • Nate Miller

            Odin was a myth no different from other comic book cartoons such as Thor, Elves, Hobbits, Wotan, Fairies, Superman, Spider man, Captain America, Batman, He-Man, Jabba-The Hut & a rational Islam. On the other hand, Jesus was an actual historical figure, he was a middle eastern brown skinned Mizrahi Jew with a clearly established lineage.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            “Odin does not exist.” True, and neither does the Hebrew, or Christian “God” or any other supernatural being. Why people like you continue reaching for a reason or excuse to represent Christianity as being pro-white is only explained as a result of centuries of brainwashing by fear and persecution; babies being forcibly baptized, given no choice, rule by fear. It is as if you and others like you never read a history book, and are so emotionally dependent on the need for your invisible friend that any sacrifice of intelligence is justified. The amount of knowledge required to believe this stuff is immense. It is a lie when whites like this example claim high IQ. The ones achieving that are NOT these sheep, but courageous people not afraid to challenge superstition and their own comfort for the truth.

            The Gospels have Jesus predicting war and dissension in society and families that describe social chaos and civil war. But the “fruit” of that tree can be observed through what Christianity produced over the centuries. No, they do not get credit for European achievement. They suppressed all efforts to advance until the most advantageous thing was to go along for the ride. Christianity seeks to own what it cannot conquer and use immediately. It is a middle eastern religion that invaded Europe and caused a huge amount of death for centuries there.

            The Celtic/Nordic spirituality is more in tune with the true white culture. There is no need to literally believe in Odin or any other figure (including and especially Jesus). It is the idea of a spirituality that says, “we are in this world” (as opposed to waiting for the kingdom of heaven) and this is our land and our people.” Christians don’t care about these things typically because they never did. Read Gibbon’s, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and this becomes exceedingly clear. They did recruit from all races and ethnic groups from the start and DID engage and setting up the first functioning form of communism in history by collecting the wealth of converts and redistributing it to the poor converts. This is one reason it grew so quickly. The other was that people were easily convinced that the world was going to end soon and so were easily convinced. This also allowed them to abandon all notions of country and people and take on a completely “Christian” identity which universalized all those under that title and gave permissions for extremes of behaviors that would be criminal by any definition today, certainly terrorist.

          • David Ashton

            Let me put all my cards on the table, because I have allowed you to jump to false conclusions about me personally.
            I am not a Christian, though I have made a considerable study of this and other religions from various angles over many years. I regard Jesus as an historical personality, and recently wrote an article on his little appreciated sense of humor. My wife laughed out loud at your supposition that my views are the result of external brainwashing or a dearth of unread books on history (or religion, politics, anthropology)!
            My only concern here at AmRen is to combat the view held by its proponents and opponents alike that the New Testament clearly endorses the destruction of national identities; this not the case. I do not wish to see the white nationalist movement weakened by needless and severe division between people who worship Jesus or Odin, or (like myself) neither. My chief philosophical mentor has been Nietzsche. However, I appreciate the enormous contribution that Christianity has made to European art, music, literature, moral probity and much else.
            I would be interested to know what critics like you make of Alfred Rosenberg’s opinion of Jesus from a “Nordic” viewpoint in “Myth of the Twentieth Century” (Book I, Part 1).

          • Eric

            Great analysis! Thank You.

          • ATBOTL

            As usual, very weak arguments from the defenders of Christianity. It always boils down to “it’s not as bad as it looks” and “it doesn’t really mean what it sounds like it means.”

            I’m still waiting for positive arguments about Christianity helps whites survive as a race.

        • jeffaral

          Somewhere in Deuteronomy it’s stated: “If your wife or daughter is raped, sell her to the rapist”. It’s a religion that makes sense if you live in the desert, for more civilizied people it’s utter nonsense.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Yes, Odin (or at least the idea of Racial/cultural spiritual identity is the way out of this. Whites who insist on Christianity being pro-white don’t know history and don’t really believe or follow the scriptures they pretend to. The problem is simply familiarity and the fact that Christianity brainwashed, and violently European whites for centuries, going after anyone who did not follow, or even follow properly, taking every opportunity to increase superstitious tendencies in order to rule, and run a reign of terror for centuries. Luckily, the white brain was already so advanced that the tendency toward reason remained, regardless of over a thousand years of persecution and Christian caused civil wars. So far, Christianity is more responsible for white deaths than all the other religions and races combined.

          But the problem at hand could easily be solved if white Christians recognized that what they want to believe about themselves, they can and do, the religion they want to support their race already exists, they just need to change the names and reject the texts until they get their true, European spirituality back.

      • bluffcreek1967

        You were right, and your friend was dead wrong! But please recognize that not all Christians would agree with massive third-world immigration.

    • And how righteous they are in the eyes of god, right? You cannot be for god and against those who are destroying our country at the same time.

    • Simonetta

      I call this phenomenon of the believers’ overwhelming obsession with saving the third world “missionary syndrome”. It is a mild mental disease found primarily among the northern Europeans and their descendants (especially the English, the Mormons, the hippies, evangelicals, and other true believers of half-baked creeds). It is one of the underlining principals of what the intellectual left defines as imperialism. Even the French are not immune, as shown by their justification of Asian and African colonies as ‘providing a path to enlightenment through which the natives can become French and therefore civilized’.

      The best way to approach those who are afflicted with this is to convince them that the third worlders would be ‘so much more effective, productive, and useful’ if they would just stay in their own countries and not all move to the USA. Convince them that their diversity needs would be met just as well by having just a few hundred ‘good-will Mbombian cultural ambassadors’ in every American city instead of 50000 Mbombians on welfare living in every city.

      After getting this basic point across, then and only then can you convince people afflicted with missionary syndrome about the dangers and pitfalls of multi-culturalism.

      • Angry White Woman

        I have no quarrel with missionaries, as long as they go to their chosen mission field and travel and live on their own dime. They can teach or preach or play doctor to the “natives” all they want to, and I wish them well. But when they eventually come back to their homeland, they need to leave the natives–ALL OF THEM–where they found them; in the mission field. Unfortunately they have usually “adopted” any number of savages, anywhere from a half dozen orphans to whole families consisting of middle-age parents down to their suckling babes. They transport these aliens into white homelands, and if not immediately, at least within one or two generations they have reverted to their natural state of savagery and sloth, only now WE are suffering from their uncivilized behavior and paying for their keep.

    • Foster Canton

      Who doesn’t in our Judaised culture? Christians are just one more group in a long list of mind screwed people.

    • MarcusTrajanus

      I am an atheist and sadly what passes for organized atheism is no better.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        Yes, I call myself an unbeliever because atheism today is not truly philosophical atheism, but leftist atheism which makes it necessary to walk in lock step with leftist attitudes in general. But there are more and more like us out there. Some people seem to be thinking things out more lately.

      • Kblankenship7

        I am a Christian, but am impressed by your comment “organized atheism”.

        • Joseph

          WARNING: Christians are about as welcome as NAACP members here. Most believe that we are closet white-race-destroyers no matter what else you say. Hated by the race-mixers and hated by the race-separatists; you gotta be doing something right.

          • Kblankenship7

            Sometimes there are good comments. I don’t think that most of the posters are fundie-atheists, but are reacting to the weakened church of today, which seems to be much like the SED in DDR times, i.e. a way to take in persons and coopt them to the party line.

    • Vonhauer

      Christians are by no means united on this issue. Some do seem to get it. Catholic priest Fr. Patrick Bascio was one.

      He directed a Ph.D. program for the U.S. Naval War College in Rhode Island, earned an M.A. in Psychology, and Ph.D. in Systematic Theology, with an emphasis on Morality of Economic and Political Systems, from Fordham University. He was also the author of “On the Immorality of Illegal Immigration: A Priest Poses An Alternative Christian View”

      Read his perspective here…

      • razorrare

        Thankyou for posting this link on Fr.Patrick Bascio…R.I.P. Father Bascio…only the Good die Young

  • Stentorian_Commentator

    If you want to help strangers, go right ahead, but do it in their home countries. “Helping” them by allowing them to stay here oppresses your fellow Americans without their consent. Man, evangelicals can be spun around so easily, it scares me. My church by default, the Cat-lick church, is just as bad on immigration, but I know the evil ones behind that, and they don’t get outwitted on doctrine that easily, at least.

  • wattylersrevolt

    This is just another manifestation of the last gasp of the Republican Party. The final croaking of Republican Party can’t come fast enough for me……for the rancîd peace of meat that is the Republican Party is the last earthly barrier to the long overdue political vacuum. The White Liberal Greedy Cheating Class….Chrissy tingle jingle up my legs Mathews as a specimen……is apparently oblivious to the fact that politics abhors a vacum. Something will fill the political vacum….and what will fill it is raw-unadulturated-splenetic White Rage.

    The American Frontier has been closed since the 1898 Worlds Fair. Take this to the bank:the passage of amnesty will send the US population into hyper-exponention population growth….there will be no more rural frontiers to run away to within the borders of the dystopia known as Amurrica!!!!! 2013.

    Gasoline has been poured into Ammurica’s!!!!!!! Basement for 48 years…all that is needed is the match……Amnesty is the match. Separate race-based Nations competing for the scarce resources of Amurrica……this is a blueprint for a violent race war

    A Mega drought+economic collapse++plus affirmative action+Django+Machette+hyper-exponential population growth=race war….

  • falsedawn

    As a Catholic, I don’t know about Evangelicals, but if you read my diocesean newspaper(The Monitor) you’d think you were reading Pravda/Izvestia. Nothing but a bunch of commies work for that paper.

    • I take what the Catholic clergy says with a huge grain of salt. (If I’d been raised protestant, I’d do the same for them.)

  • So CAL Snowman

    So what are these churches going to do when their congregations are entirely brown and start shooting each other and fighting in the parking lot? What are these churches going to do when their entire congregation can’t speak English?

    • falsedawn

      An interesting question is what are they going to do when their new mexican parisherners don’t put naything in the basket? Priests/ministers aren’t known for their work ethic.

    • George White

      In the parking lot shootout, they will jump in front of the bullets. For the spanish speaking congregation, they will learn spanish. This is what useful idiots do. An ethnomasochist cannot flagellate themselves enough.

    • Before they completely lose their white membership that keeps the church going, they will relocate to the suburbs or the exurbs before they tolerate a completely ethnic church.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      All these Christians, whether they are Catholic or Protestant have been working abroad and bringing in immigrants for decades. Their first consideration is their organizational, financial survival and growth. They have functioned as beach heads for the expression of the 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act since the time it was passed.

  • So CAL Snowman

    It’s kind of funny, the liberals HATE Christians with a passion. They blame White Christians for every bad thing that ever happened in the Universe. So one would think that the liberals would be up in arms about bringing in so many “bigoted, hateful” Christians into the US. Oh wait it’s okay for BROWN people to be Christians, just not Whites.

    • MarcusTrajanus

      Most liberals (in the US) are Christians.

  • B

    The god hustlers simply want more fools available to put their money in the basket on Sunday. They have no virtue and they have no shame.

    • George White

      You got it. Money hustle, pure and simple.

      • Eagle_Eyed

        You both are wrong. If it were about cynically wanting more money, they wouldn’t be dangerous.

        Instead, pro-immigration zealots (be they religious or not) sincerely *believe* what they are advocating will bring about tranquility and a better world. This makes it harder to convince them of the error of their ways (which is why “white privilege” and “racism” are used so often).

        • GM (Australia)

          What do the pro-immigration zealots have to say about the plight of of the billions who will never make it to the good life of the West?

          Why should those who get to the West be it your nation or Australia by breaking the law be entitled to any special privileges such as amnesty while those left behind get nothing?

          Perhaps we need a new world order where everyone is treated equally but it will never work, some people will always be more equal than others as well as more intelligent than others or more entrepreneurial than others.

          Perhaps we should just have open borders to make a more humane world. The trouble is we would be destroyed and it would not solve any problems back in the 3rd world.

          Just send them all back! (And let those who want to help the undeveloped world give generously to Christian charities)

  • enough already

    I like going to ghurch on Sun.,but am torn between giving my money to a far- left Protestant regime.One Sun. they had included a pamphlet on the evils of whites( in a white congregation) with the bulletin.Have been told the blacks have taken over the church govt in this state.

    • bluffcreek1967

      Geez, I’d get out of that church pronto!

    • jeffaral

      Are you a masochist??!!

  • David Ashton

    The passage in Matthew 25 is often misread (as I explained more fully in another thread). It condemns those who neglect to help the “brethren” of Jesus (i.e. Christians), not Christians who neglect to help anyone else. It identifies Jesus with his “little ones” or followers (cf. John 17.6-26). The most succinct exegesis I know appeared in “A New Commentary on Holy Scripture” (SPCK 1951), Part III “New Testament” (H L Goudge & P P Levertoff) p.196. It was also independently confirmed by Enoch Powell in his “Commentary on St Matthew”.
    Nothing in the New Testament requires, endorses or justifes mass-immigration because technically it consists of “strangers”.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      Under any traditional understanding of nationhood, one can still distinguish between strangers in need being treated well and what we have today–an influx of aliens who come to America on their own volition and disrupt the social tranquility and place an added burden on the country while contributing little to it.

      So we should be aiding those foreigners in need should we happen upon them. And then we should proceed to repatriate them to their own people–which is about the most just thing to do.

      • David Ashton

        Agreed. It would be “kinder” to the “undeveloped” countries for them to keep their brainiest people than for the west to siphon them off. The west simply cannot take in all the sick, poor and displaced populations from the world over. So we should not “discriminate” between them, and generally exclude them all. Help them with their birth-control and science at home. Live and let live.

  • Bill

    I’ve read the bible cover to cover. Nowhere does it say that a nation, people or tribe adopt lawbreakers and invaders. Once again the “evangelical” community seems to be unable to read and comprehend their own bible – IF they read it rather than cherry pick. All that is spoken of is treating all with compassion and Christ like love. In point of fact the old testament is replete with doing much more than deporting the invader, the degenerate, the idolater and the lawless. The new testament is about salvation, not allowing mestizo invaders to steal money and benefits from a nation’s lawful CITIZENS. Were it up to me, we’d treat the squat illiterate, lawless invaders exactly as they were treated in the old testament. If I felt kindly on a given day, at most I’d preach to them about true Salvation before giving them a quick and hard kick out of the country. All of them. With their kids. Families should stay together after all……

    • George White

      I think that Jesus would escort them back to the border and ask them to sin no more.

      • 14Yes14

        I am not sure this is up to the facts. Jesus did teach forgiveness. He taught us to love
        our enemies. He did not say “deport your enemies” or anything of this sort.
        That is for sure. Yes, illegal immigrants do take our land for themselves (go
        visit Miami city for example). But Jesus asks us not to resist evil: (Matthew
        5:40) “if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.” And “39. But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” Therefore, if one to follow the teaching exactly, one must
        give out our land, if illegal aliens want it. Thanks Gods that many Christians do not follow their Jewish-inspired book to the letter but have some common sense values. The Evangelical leaders who want more illegal aliens to join us lost any trace of common sense.

        • razorrare

          There are at least 119 verses in the Old and New testament that supports and promotes self-defense…obviously i will not quote them all here for it is too time consuming to do so and this is not the correct venue to do it in…nor will i expend any great deal of time pontificating on your asinine comment that Jesus taught us to love our enemies…the way i understand it there is an eternal hades that the Lord has prepared for his enemies…

          NO,instead i will paste this link for others to read concerning did Christ Teach Pacifism written by Larry Pratt,Executive director of Gun Owners in America…

          http://gunowners.org/fs9902.htm

          • Marcus-Lorek

            Yes, the Old testament is pro-defense and pro-self-interest and pro-Jewish. This is why Jewish people achieve so much in media and finance. I am not so sure about the New testament. It seems pro-multiculturalism and pro-diversity, if anything.

  • Seek

    I see no sound moral rationale for belonging to a church anymore. A member who donates money effectively bankrolls our national destruction. For those wanting to attend services, they can be conducted at a private facility, such as one’s own home.
    This roundtable group represents Christianity at its worst — all heart and no head. It is the very essence of why Nietzsche was so moved to issue his stinging critique. These clergymen refuse to see any one idea, or national group, as superior to others. Indeed, they disdain the very notion of superiority. To them, we are all one giant universal nation.

  • Fr. John+

    I will say this as clearly as I can. THIS IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. THIS IS HERESY.

    The entire O.T., as well as (if you know what you are reading) the N.T. is NEVER ABOUT MASS MULTICULTURAL, MULTI-RACIAL ASSIMILATION. That is what is known as BABELISM, as in the ‘Tower of…’. God CURSED the entire populace of the (then known) world at Babel, confounding our tongues, and creating (by extension) the very ethnic groupings that became the Countries of the World, which later resulted in the ‘calling’ of Biblical Israel- alone- to be the ‘only people God had to deal with.’ [Amos 3:2]

    Similarly, the Angel who visited Joseph about Jesus’ birth, said He was to be- NOT the saviour of the WORLD- but only the ‘Savior of HIS PEOPLE.’ [ Matt. 1:21] Again, Christ confirmed this, when he said, ‘I am come (as Savior and Lord) ONLY to the ‘lost sheep’ of the “HOUSE OF ISRAEL.’ Dr. Gerald Schroeder, in his book ‘The Science of God,’ notes that from Genesis 1 to Genesis 12, the Bible constantly narrows down YHWH’s dealings, until it arrives at one man- Abraham, and from him, only Isaac (not Ishmael) becomes the object of God’s affection, and from him Jacob (not Esau) and only the 12 sons born to Israel as Patriarch become the family of God. This is NOT denied by Christ, nor turned aside, if one reads the bible. Clearly, the Holy Spirit turning away missionary endeavors in Acts 16:6, centers Christendom ONLY in those nations that are Caucasoid- Europe.

    Until Roman perversions of that mindset occurred after the Schism of 1054, the ‘Universalism’ of the Gospel was confined to the “Ecumene” alone. Any departure from that (or missionary endeavor to those outside of the Caucasoid Hellene/Judea tribes of the Bible- confirmed in I Pet. I:1, and Jas. 1:1- to the ‘twelve tribes’) is anti-biblical, and anti-Gospel. What these people are doing is baptized marxism masquerading as historic, Orthodox Christianity. As protestants, they have neither the pnevma, nor the history to even claim salvation, let alone to whom it is supposed to be given.
    – Fr. John+
    Priest

    http://www.thewhitechrist.wordpress.com

    • Robert

      ‘I am come (as Savior and Lord) ONLY to the ‘lost sheep’ of the “HOUSE OF ISRAEL.’
      YES, HE WAS FOR JEWS ONLY.

      • eduard

        What is the difference between a jew, Judean, Judahite, Israeli, Israelite and a Hebrew? The modern jew is nothing but a khazar.

        • 14Yes14

          “The modern jew is nothing but a khazar”

          Perhaps this is true to some extent, but probably less than 50% Khazar genes, on average. But Jews seem to ask us to follow the same path to annihilation every time they speak. Even Jesus teaches us “Sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor.” (Luke 12:33). And (Matthew 6:34): “Take therefore no thought for tomorrow: for tomorrow shall take thought of the things for itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.” In other words, do not make plans for the future and give away all
          your money. No wonder Jews always win the competition to control the media. And
          without our own strong media and a good pro-white propaganda the survival of our people is under a huge question mark.

    • David Ashton

      You read too much into Acts 16.6 and its contemporary ethno-geography to accuse Christian missionaries Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox (e.g. China), in fact the churches as a whole, down the ages of heresy. Matthew 28:18-20 decrees a mission universal in space and in time with a final assurance of divine protection. See also Acts 17.26-27 which supports the existence of nations (therefore defense against armed or unarmed invasion) but also global human conversion to the faith.

    • edwina

      once these people can outvote us or cheat there way into political leadership……………………………… nevermind

  • wattylersrevolt

    Speaking for myself, I was raised an Irish Catholic..these days I have no use for the Catholic Church. The German Pope is an old queen who likes to prance around in dressess. So are the US Bishops…old queens that live in mansions. And all the Catholic Nuns are very butch looking. I would take away the tax exempt status of every Catholic and Protestant Church.

    I am not trying to take religion away from anyone. But the Christian Churches are out of control. If the the full cost of nonwhite immigration was thrown back at them…this nonesense would stop..force all the old queen Catholic Bishops to work for their room and board…force them to wash dishes next to their imported mexican darlings…the nonesense would stop real fast.

    The American South has had horrfic droughts the past four years..this year should be no different. And the Evil Evangelical Pinhead Preachers want to import millions of high fertility mexicans and m-13 gangbangers into the American South?…These pinheads must have a secret death wish..they will recreate hell on Southern Soil in a very few years.

    Astronomers are getting very close..todays science news..to finding new Earth’s…the exoplanets are scaling down to earth size..an unmistakeable trend. If we do make contact with intelligent life in the Universe…the Universe is unimaginably big folks..there is no reason to think that the ETs are Christian…Philosophers,Theologians and Astrophysicists know that this will spell big trouble for organized religion…just wait when WOW!!!! makes a reappearance.

    I do not believe for a fraction of a second that Evangelical Preachers in their Corporate Shrines and Catholic Priests in their Churches are conneceted to any kind of Supernatural Intelligence…I would laugh just thinking about it because it is sheer comedy…were it not for the fact that the Pinhead Evangelical Preachers and Old Queen Catholic Bishops and Priests are using their presumed connection to the Almighty to bring about an ecological collapse… and the violent race war that will precede the ecological collapse…to agitate for the importation of the hispanic-muslim-asian pest species that will be encouraged by the leaders of the Jesus cult to be very fruitfull and multiply like a well known pest species and thereby destroy the living and breeding space of millions of Native Born White Americans within the borders of America.

    • IstvanIN

      Insulting the Pope by calling him an old queen is unacceptable. The Catholic view on immigration is, unfortunately, the same as the married Protestant’s clergy, wrong. But then so is the view of most politicians like Gingerich, Paul Ryan, George Bush, etc.. Are they old queens?

      • jeffaral

        I would call the pope something worse, but then my comment would be deleted!

  • JohnEngelman

    More people mean less of everything good to go around. Although the U.S. population and the average standard of living have increased since the United States Constitution was signed, this is because the technological level has also increased. We should not expect technology to save us forever, however. By making automation and off possible computer technology reduces the economic value of jobs most people are able to learn.

    The relationship can be explained by an equation:

    (natural resources x level of technology) / human population = standard of living

    More people mean more customers and more job applicants. By the law of supply and demand this means higher prices, lower wages, and higher profits. This is why the leaders of the Republican Party favor higher rates of immigration.

    • Jaego

      Can you fill in the variables here by way of example? Or has anyone done so? It might be a valuable teaching tool for people who are oriented towards math and science.

  • Ben Dover

    After the scum collapse this nation, every single POS who had any part in bringing our country down will swing. Anyone who has or does hire illegal aliens has committed unforgivable treason. Every person who aids and abets the destruction of our country in any way is a traitor. It’s ironically a good thing that so many nit-wits are into pot nowadays, we will have a desperate need for as much hemp as we can lay our hands on to tie on necks of traitors very soon.

  • Son of Abraham

    Well, there’s one good thing about this article. The Jew-haters and Jew-baiters who pollute this website won’t be able to blame this on the children of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.
    Try as they might with their convoluted “reasoning” and tenuous connections.

    • Jaego

      Is it hatred to tell the Truth about the massive Jewish role in the downfall of America? Why don’t you look at the log in your own eye before you criticize the log in our’s to paraphrase Christ.

    • Skincognito

      Are not “Evangelicalism” and “Christian Zionism” synonymous?

    • Xerxes22

      There is not one Jewish member of Congress who is opposed to anmesty and open borders.

      • Halcion

        For America! For Israel? Yes. For America? No.

  • bigone4u

    In my experience anyone can pick up a Bible and start thumping it for just about any cause. Christianity provides cover for a wide range of dispicable ideas and behaviors. This group in all honesty is just another liberal special interest group feeding at the public trough and off donations from muddle headed morons. There are too many such groups for me to get my dander up over it. Opposing points of view such as expressed on Amren need a wider audience and some media support.

    • Zora_Nitshe

      Yes, the New Testament can be understood in various ways. I believe it is designed like this on purpose, to cause conflict between people who take it as a holy book.

      • David Ashton

        It isn’t a book, but a selection of different writings designed by different authors at different times, and selected a long time after they were all written.

  • BernieGoetzFan

    So why aren’t Christians in Korea, Mexico and Kenya demanding their governments open their borders to non Koreans, Mexicans and Kenyans?

    • Eagle_Eyed

      A better question is why aren’t Americans demanding that these countries do this? If open immigration truly is a civil rights issue that Jesus himself would have fought for, it is a universal principle is it not?

    • bluffcreek1967

      Because Christians in those countries are a little saner when it comes to matters of immigration. The multiculturalists are ONLY happy when white, western nations engage in multiculturalism and thereby commit national suicide.

    • ed

      no one is as stupid as white americans………. the whole world knows that.

    • Zora_Nitshe

      “So why aren’t Christians in Korea,
      Mexico and Kenya

      demanding their governments open their borders to non Koreans, Mexicans and

      Kenyans?” Yes, good question, why?! The Christianity might not the most important
      direct factor, in fact.

      The main problem is that in this country the big media and Hollywood are owned
      and controlled by people of either Middle Eastern or Khazar descent (i.e ,
      Sefardic or Ashkinazi Jews correspondingly). Try to find an ethnic Englishman
      or an ethnic German, or any person of just European ancestry who would control or
      own a big media outlet such as CNN or Washington Post in this country. Such
      examples are nonexistent. Yet, in Korea and Kennya and Mexico

      there are many big media outlets which are controlled by ethnic Koreans or

      Mexicans. In this country, the great majority of ethic Khazars or
      Middle-Easterners would not think that saving White Race is a noble goal. They
      want to weaken the White Race because it is their strongest competitor. Thus they use their media giants to control
      the public opinion and the public discourse into a direction leading to a destruction
      of the White

      Race. Those who control big media, control everything, from religion to politics,

      because they define the mindsets of people through their entertainment
      channels.

      The media is as important as the military forces used to protect any nation
      from

      destruction. Thus big media in this country must be nationalized and given to
      some

      elected officials, who will represent American People, and not the Khazar

      people.

  • Jesus told his disciples (evangelicals) to GO to foreign lands and preach His word. He wanted His word spread in other nations. He didn’t tell them to wait for them to come to them.

    You’re not really converting a nation to Christ if you wait for them to come here.

  • The__Bobster

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/evangelical-immigration-table-campaigns-for-amnesty

    “Evangelical Immigration Table” Campaigns For Amnesty

    By Allan Wall on January 15,
    2013 at 12:38pm

    The “Evangelical Immigration Table” is an evangelical group campaigning for amnesty. It includes some of the same suspects I’ve written of before: Leith Anderson, Richard Land and Hispanic chauvinist Samuel Rodriguez. An article about the group on CNN is entitled Evangelical Christians prepare for ‘largest ever grassroots push on immigration’ but it’s highly unlikely this is a “grassroots push”. After all, there are many evangelical groups, and not a single hierarchy or representative who could credibly speak for all of them. However, the Evangelical Immigration Table does have some prominent leaders, and they could do a lot of damage.

    The group has released a video (here) in which some of its leaders quote the words
    of Christ in Matthew 25:31-46, about the sheep and the goats. The goal here is
    to guilt trip evangelicals into supporting amnesty. Don’t be deceived. The
    passage is about helping the poor and needy, not about amnesty for illegal alien
    lawbreakers!

    I encourage evangelical Christians to fight back. Go here and see who is involved in this group. If the list includes any of your denominational leaders or leaders of ministries you
    support, contact them and give them an earful. Don’t donate to organizations
    (such as Focus on the Family) that support amnesty, and explain to them why you don’t. And this is very important – educate your local and denominational church leadership on this question. Point out how illegal and mass immigration harms Americans and how it exacerbates social problems in the sending countries. Explain to them that Christian Charity and Big Government are not the same thing. There are plenty of good, sound arguments you can employ to show that Christianity and immigration sanity are compatible. Use the vast VDARE.COM archive as a source.

  • Skipper

    What these stupid evangelicals from the “Christianity, Inc.” mega and franchise type churches do not realize is their new, third-world congregants will drive away the whites (who contribute the money and perform the volunteer labor), pay a piddling amount in contributions, and require a significant amount of support from these churches. Therefore, and with full irony intended, these churches have thus won the “Darwin” award!

  • Jaego

    “A” Stranger? They use a singular article for tens of millions of illegals? Wouldn’t the bibical image of a horde of locusts be more accurate in terms of both grammar and result?

  • MarcusTrajanus

    Your religion teaches you to be kind to invaders? Fine, then YOU feed them, house them, pay their medical bills, etc. You have no right to foist the cost of your religious teachings on others.

  • Unperson

    As Martin Luther (the real, European one; not the fake black one) is supposed to have said, “The Bible is a fiddle on which many a tune can be played.” Apparently one of those tunes is “La Cucaracha.”

    What I mean is, if you can interpret the Bible to promote being flooded with foreigners, you can also interpret it to say the opposite. The fact that the anti-American tune is the one on the hit parade these days, is a huge problem. And although an agnostic/atheist I complete agree with Christian commenters on here who insist this particular pro-immigration interpretation is completely scripturally wrong. From what I know of the Bible you folks on here are getting it right and the sanctimonious lefties are (as always) the ones getting it all (dangerously, disastrously) wrong.

  • IKantunderstand

    I was a Lutheran. Born and raised. Father converted from being a Mason and an Episcopalian to convert to Mother’s strong Germanic Lutheranism. I am still a Christian. I never left the church. The church has left me.

  • Jefferson

    Why do so many White Evangelicals want to import more Brown Catholics into this country ?

    • jeffaral

      Because Jesus teaches us that we are all the same! The Homus Christianus is the equivalent of the Homus Sovieticus

  • Satan is an angel of light.

  • shattered

    I’m all for reforming immigration. We need to E-verify the nation’s businesses and social services and end birth citizenship/chain migration.

  • Snesgamer

    “For I was illegally in your country, wanting to sell drugs and take jobs from people themselves struggling to put bread on their tables – and you did not persuade your government to oppress its own people by taking me in” – Evangelicals might as well add this verse in to their Bibles.

  • Drew

    I sometimes wonder how Christians who steal food from my table think this will help assure themselves a good place in heaven.

  • These a**hole evangelicals want the American taxpayer to pay for a bunch of illegal cholos in our country, but, God forbid, they should ever demand their precious Israel welcome back the people they kicked off the land decades ago.

    No wonder the evangelicals like the Israelis so much. Most people from each groups are hypocrites.

  • KevinPhillipsBong

    In those days I also saw that the Jews had married women from Ashdod, Ammon and Moab. As for their children, half spoke in the language of Ashdod, and none of them was able to speak the language of Judah, but the language of his own people. So I contended with them and cursed them and struck some of them and pulled out their hair, and made them swear by God, “You shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor take of their daughters for your sons or for yourselves.”

    Nehemiah 13:23-25

  • Barrack Osama

    Fools, the lot of them.

  • George White

    This just makes me sick at heart. Honestly. I hope the GOP doesn’t latch onto this to justify turncoat behavior. Not that the GOP needs any reason to justify their typically RINO/anti-white behavior. My guess is that it’s the evangelical leadership and not the congregants that want this. No sane white person wants massive third world immigration. The polls against are always around 80%.
    Again, I beg all of you to raise hell. Make calls and write letters. Give to NUMBERSUSA or the organization of your choice. But do something. This issue is probably the most hurtful of all to whites and will destroy this country if it isn’t stopped.

  • Dylan

    Honestly I really see no reason to put such tremendous belief in Iron Age superstitions , It’s a new day and one of science and reason, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.

  • jeffaral

    I have always thought that Bible thumping Americans were weird. What a suicidal religion!

  • C_C_Conrad

    I guess that we can argue about what the Bible says or means until the moon falls out of the sky. The truth is usually found where the rubber meets the road, so to speak. When the non-whites come to kill, rape or rob you they won’t be quoting scriptures. The Quakers of Pennsylvania found this out in the 1750’s – the hard way. As long as people are safe & comfortable they have the privilege of quoting scriptures or other platitudes. But when your children are dead at your feet all of that goes out the window. Read Wilderness Empire by Allen W. Eckert. There are only two kinds of people in this world, pro-white or pro-white-genocide.
    …………
    Jack’s War
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=jack%27s+War

    • Zora_Nitshe

      The discussion was just about this: why there are so many people who are White and yet they are pro -white-genocide. Some suggest that New Testament, being a teaching of the approaching death and the judgment, make people believe that the disappearance of White Race is something almost positive.

  • I suspect that, once these clergy learn the fact that just because immigrants fill the pews does not mean they will fill the collection baskets, the clergy will be much less welcoming to the new immigrants. I find that most immigrants are very tight fisted about what they give to the church; they expect the church to give to them.

    • David Ashton

      Shrewd observation that needs more circulation.

  • They can hide behind the Bible all they want but the fact is these churches are traitors and should be treated as such.

  • Tucker

    This piece of news should, without question, put a permanent end to any debate that suggests that ‘Christianity’ and the mainstream Church leadership are not fully in favor of the racial, cultural, and ethnic replacement, dispossession, and genocide of White European people.

    I am hoping that Rev. Ted Pike, who for some bizarre reason, the Political Cesspool Radio folks love to boast about having on their program more times than any other guest and who is on the record as condemning pro-white, race realist White European people for having the common sense and natural survival instincts to place the survival of their race and the civilization created by their race in a position of importance that takes a deserved priority precedence over a religion which has become a Cultural Marxist instrument of mass white racial destruction – well, I hope Ted Pike sees this article and absorbs it fully.

    How does it feel, Ted Pike – to stand fully exposed and have the bright spotlight of a White Genocidist shining on you?

    I also hope that the gang over at The Political Cesspool all see this article, and compare it with the e-alerts that Pike has sent out over the last 2 years, where he heaps scorn and the standard mainstream media dose of slime upon the people in the AmRen community and in the general White Nationalist community at large – for daring to express their awareness that the embrace of this Cultural Marxist poisoned flavor of Christianity has become a death sentence for White European people.

    If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a hundred times: White race treason is our #1 most serious problem.

    • razorrare

      For the record,Rev.Ted Pike has done more than any other of our present White spokesmen speaking up for White interest in bringing awareness of Jewish power & influence…More than any other he has actively faced them head on in battles in the courtroom…specifically against hate crime legislation that targets Whites that makes them unequal in the eyes of the law…then you have the audacity to go on and criticize those Good White people over at Political Cesspool who speak up for White interest for having Ted Pike on their show…No, our No.1 must serious problem is that of jewish power & influence…if not for that all White countries that are now having genocidal programs beset upon them would be not having to suffer from the consequences of forced diversity-forced multiracialism and a myriad of other anti-White programs promoted and supported and instituted by the jewish elite who have used their ethno connectivity to usurp our institutions of higher learning,the media,the churches,and yes–even White racialist movements and a site like this that is not necessarily a movement but a site of selective information for Whites to digest and to express their thoughts to other like minded Whites…
      My opinion is this….We need more articles from Kevin MacDonald,David Duke,and other like-minded writers & speakers for White interest to talk of the jewish ownership of Slavery and Genocidal programs to insure the weakening and destruction of Western Civilization which without Christianity cannot survive,and its genocide.Without knowing it Tucker you have been Suckered by the very tribe that in latter posts you abhor…Without the jewish question there would be no such massive problem as race treason,or at the least very little that would have any detrimental affect on the rest of White society and Nations.
      Btw…the “gang” at Political Cesspool just had Jared Taylor on this last Sat to promote the next Amren conferance…Perhaps the next time Keith Alexander & Jared can discuss the Jewish Question…
      Yeh,blame Whites for slavery and now blame White Christianity for massive legal & illegal immigration of third worlders who have a hatred for Whites…By way of deception is the jewish operandi and since they control much of mainstream press its easy for them to put the blame on others for programs that they themselves are ultimately responsible for creating in the first place….but lets blame it on good Whites like Ted Pike and those Whites who dare to call themselves Christians!!!

    • razorrare

      Well these “demonic charlations” are controlled by the jews much like this website is—a moderator deleted my reply to Tucker even though i didnt violate any rules here…Perhaps TPC needs to be notified that they should no longer invite Taylor to be on their program… no wonder Keith Alexander left the studio when Taylor was brought on to promote the Amren conferance,the hell with you arrogant and smug assholes.–Go ahead and keep spreading the lie that its Christianity that is the main motivator,promoter,behind mass immigration…just like the lie about slavery…and anything else that the jews promote that supports genocide for Whites…who wwas behind the 60’s cultural revolution? It was not only an attack on Whites but on Christianity that gave us our Western Culture.Demonic charlatans seemingly run this board.All you Christian bashers aint fit to shine Rev.Ted Pikes shoes.

      • Tucker

        You failed to interpret my message correctly, razorrare. I specifically cited the Church leadership, did I not? A similar betrayal was orchestrated by the Church leadership in the former Rhodesia – whereby their Christian preachers assured their congregations that surrendering to black majority rule would not change their lives or affect their safety in any significantly negative fashion.

        Let me repeat: it is the leadership of the Christian and Catholic Churches who’ve been bought off by the Cultural Marxists, and they have allowed their churches and their religions to be transformed by these Frankfurt School subversives into a very deadly weapon in the all-expansive arsenal of the anti-White enemy. I never claimed that Christianity – all by itself – is the only force which is waging a genocide war of mass, non-white immigration into all historic White majority nations. It is simply one of the major weapons in the enemy’s arsenal – but, my contention is that it is one of the most diabolically evil and deadly weapons, because it attempts to program and brainwash Whites who go to church and who naively trust everything their preachers tell them – to believe that embracing their own dispossession and ultimate genocide is somehow earning them brownie points with the Big Guy in the Sky.

        News Flash: Any Christian or Catholic Preacher who preaches in favor of white dispossession, miscegenation, open borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, and who condemns Whites who have pride in their race and who do not support being dispossessed inside their native homelands by foreigners who are totally unlike themselves in every measurable and important way – is a preacher who is your mortal enemy, because he or she is advancing the enemy’s white genocide agenda.

        Did you not listen to the excellent, top-notch commentary by Keith Alexander on the Political Cesspool radio show when they did their review on the movie ‘The Blind Side’?

      • Tucker

        You failed to interpret my message correctly, razorrare. I specifically cited the Church leadership, did I not? A similar betrayal was orchestrated by the Church leadership in the former Rhodesia – whereby their Christian preachers assured their congregations that surrendering to black majority rule would not change their lives or affect their safety in any significantly negative fashion.

        Let me repeat: it is the leadership of the Christian and Catholic Churches who’ve been bought off by the Cultural Marxists, and they have allowed their churches and their religions to be transformed by these Frankfurt School subversives into a very deadly weapon in the all-expansive arsenal of the anti-White enemy. I never claimed that Christianity – all by itself – is the only force which is waging a genocide war of mass, non-white immigration into all historic White majority nations. It is simply one of the major weapons in the enemy’s arsenal – but, my contention is that it is one of the most diabolically evil and deadly weapons, because it attempts to program and brainwash Whites who go to church and who naively trust everything their preachers tell them – to believe that embracing their own dispossession and ultimate genocide is somehow earning them brownie points with the Big Guy in the Sky.

        News Flash: Any Christian or Catholic Preacher who preaches in favor of white dispossession, miscegenation, open borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, and who condemns Whites who have pride in their race and who do not support being dispossessed inside their native homelands by foreigners who are totally unlike themselves in every measurable and important way – is a preacher who is your mortal enemy, because he or she is advancing the enemy’s white genocide agenda.

        Did you not listen to the excellent, top-notch commentary by Keith Alexander on the Political Cesspool radio show when they did their review on the movie ‘The Blind Side’?

        • razorrare

          The last time i made a reply to you my post was removed so i hope you can appreciate the animus i am feeling right now…I appreciate open debate and other opinions even if i happen to dissagree with them…but to have my civil comments moderated and removed while taking part in a discussion while other not so civil comments are allowed to stand i find intolerable and is a form of tyranny…
          My main issue with you is your attack on the good character of Rev.Pike who has fought tooth and nail against that iconic eye(Hate Crime Legislation) that in my opinion is White peoples No.1 enemy if not the worlds.It is they who want world domination and control and they see the White man as being their biggest threat in achieving the NWO…All the problems,at least most of our problems would vanish if there wasnt a jewish problem…our institutions of higher learning could heal themselves of this parasite who also poisons the minds of our White race with another religion that is more deadly than what is being taught in many of the organized Christian churches throughout America and that is atheism which is more closely alligned with cultural marxism & leftist ideology…In my earlier reply to you that was removed i stated or asked you who was behind the 60’s cultural revolution that was attacking America’s traditional values system and Christianity…Look,i have recognized in the days of my youth that the electronic preachers seen on television were under the control of the tribe who were allowed to be charlatons taking advantage of older people concerned about facing their near term future death…that is criminal,but it was then as it is now still allowed because obviously they have been useful tools for the tribe that controls them…i will say the same for Farrahkans org…Yes,Farrahkan is an uncle Tom as are Sharpton and Jackson…they should all be in jail just like all those White electronic preachers on your telescreen who scheme to get old ladies & men to give them their inheritance…Keith Alexander is one of my favorite commentors,without him the show wouldnt be worth listening too…just like Natvan is not the same and is a shell of its former self without Dr.William Pierce…Just remember…the churches in the 60’s tried hard to stop the left from winning the culture war…it is why we are now witnessing the death throes of Western Civilization…Hey Hey ho ho western Civilization has got to go…so many good people back then had not a clue who was using them as useful idiots to further their own agenda,which was too weaken the White man and his Christian Faith…Once upon a time our church leaders knew that the Jew was the adversary of the Christian–lines were clearly drawn–the jews were going to hades for rejecting Christ and there was no-lets get together cause we all have something in common—if you were against Christ you were the enemy.Much of that changed with Billy Grahm who wined and dined with the hews all the while whispering in Nixons ear those darn jews have to much power in our govt & control in the Media…Again,like removing the black problem would solve the death rate of those murdered or killed by guns so too if the jewish problem didnt exist neither would all the various discriminatory laws targeting Whites,Whites loss of Freedom of Association,discriminatory hiring of Whites,Whites being discriminated against in college admissions…every gamut you can think of where Whites are injured and not treated as equals under the law…self hate of ones own skin…miscegenation…etc etc etc etc …would not exist or be so very miniscule it would leave no injurious affect on the White populace.Have you not read Dr.William Pierce articles or listened to his tapes?

  • liar liar

    Its a lie. Churches dont want them either.

    Then again Jared Taylor’s all time hero Jefferson who was the very first lying pos to lie on record that the Creator created every race equal and the same would no doubt be organizing 100k churches or other organizations to welcome illegal spics into their places.

    How dare Jefferson say such a thing that has no defense whatsoever.

    Where in the history of the world was this pc race equality ever uttered before Jefferson brainwashed the planet and started the liberal movements against WMR and the white chosen blessed Shem race?

    Did Jefferson not understand what he was lying about? It was not a speech but a world famous document.
    What really happened between Jefferson and his female slave anyway? He clearly had a soft side for the non-whites.

  • jay11

    They’re too lazy to send missionaries aborad like they used to, and it’s also more dangerous. Now the thinking is to bring the poor little brown people here and save their souls for Christ, and still being able to get home in time for dinner. Trouble is, the foreigners don’t want to be like you, and don’t want you in THEIR churches either. Where I’m at there’s a lot of churches set up by blacks, asians and latinos. I’ve never seen a white face coming or going from any of them.

  • jackryanvb

    This article only has one name in it – “Noel Castellanos, the CEO of the Christian Community Development Association”. We need names, addresses, contact information, personal information. We need photos of these rich traitors posing infront of their $80,000 cars, being tended to by their mimimum wage immigrant slaves. Most of these Evangelical traitor churches are in the South where are people took overwhelming control at the state and local level – these trich traitors can be identified and driven from respectable public life.

    Think what would happen to such traitors in countries like Israel, Switzerland, Japan.

    We have to make this personal and make it reality that traitors on the live or (mostly die) issue of immigration pay a strong PERSONAL price for their immigration treason. We have to stop relying on reason, being fair – it’s all about power, money, social status.

    Remember, we took down some terrible political leaders like Chris Cannon, Arlen Specter, Dick Lugar, we can do the same with traitorous tax exempt religious leaders.

  • jackryanvb

    This liberation theology, cultural marxist intrigue of American Evangelical Churches has it’s HQ in my Chicago.

    CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION

    MAILING ADDRESS
    3827 W. Ogden Avenue
    Chicago, IL 60623

    PHONE: 312.733.0200

    PHYSICAL ADDRESS
    3851 W. Ogden Avenue
    Chicago, IL 60623 (map it)

    FAX: 312.733.0202

  • jackryanvb

    Here are the Board of Directors and some members of this horrible anti Christ, mass amnesty 5th column. Please circulate – it’s entirely possible that many or simply old, out of touch and don’t know what they are involved with.

    Board

    Officers

    Rev. Dr. Wayne Gordon (President)
    Lawndale Community Church
    Chicago, IL

    Dr. John Perkins (Chair Emeritus)
    John M. Perkins Foundation
    Jackson, MS

    Ms. Patty Prasada-Rao (Chair)
    Baltimore, MD

    Mrs. Mayra Macedo-Nolan (Secretary)
    Lake Avenue Community Foundation
    Pasadena, CA

    Rev. Leroy Barber (Vice-Chair)
    Mission Year
    Atlanta, GA

    Rev. Harold Spooner (Treasurer)
    Evangelical Covenant Church
    Chicago, ILMembers

    Ms. Gina (Lewis) Alexander
    Oasis Christian CDC
    Indianapolis, IN

    Rev. Andy Bales
    Union Rescue Mission
    Los Angeles, CA

    Mr. John Booy
    The Potter’s House
    Grand Rapids, MI

    Ms. Crissy Brooks
    Mika Community Development Corporation
    Costa Mesa, CA

    Mr. Mark Charles
    Consultant
    Fort Defiance, AZ

    Ms. Kit Danley
    Neighborhood Ministries
    Phoenix, AZ

    Mr. Gerald Davis
    Baptist General Convention of Texas
    Dallas, TX

    Mr. Sami DiPasquale
    Ciudad Nueva Community Outreach
    El Paso, TX

    Mr. Alex duBuclet
    The Exeter Group
    Chicago, IL

    Mr. Paul Green
    Hope for the Inner City
    Chattanooga, TN

    Rev. Robert Guerrero
    Redeemer City to City
    New York City, NY

    Rev. Dr. Marshall Hatch Sr.
    New Mount Pilgrim Missionary Baptist Church
    Chicago, IL

    Mr. Chris Jehle
    The Hope Center
    Kansas City, MO

    Mrs. Tammi Jehle
    The Hope Center
    Kansas City, MO

    Dr. Glen Kehrein
    Circle Urban Ministries
    Chicago, IL

    Rev. John Liotti
    Northern California Urban Development
    East Palo Alto, CA

    Dr. Robert Lupton
    FCS Urban Ministries
    Atlanta, GA

    Dr. Jo Anne Lyon
    The Wesleyan Church
    Indianapolis, IN

    Ms. Esperanza Martinez
    Ekklesia Miami
    Miami, FL

    Mrs. Cheryl Miller
    Perpetual Help Home, Inc.
    Victoria, TX

    Dr. Mary Nelson
    Bethel New Life
    Chicago, IL

    Rev. Dr. Soong-Chan Rah
    North Park Theological Seminary
    Chicago, IL

    Dr. Alvin Sanders
    Evangelical Free Church of America
    Cincinnati, OH

    Dr. Arloa Sutter
    Breakthrough Urban Ministries
    Chicago, IL

    Dr. Richard Twiss
    Wiconi International
    Vancouver, WA

    Rev. Matthew Watts
    HOPE Communitiy Development Corporation, Grace Bible Church
    Charleston, WV

    • razorrare

      dont forget the addresses for those members of the adl,splc,ajc,aipac,jdl,aclu and all the jewish controlled politicians that support and are ready to sign into legislation amnesty for all these invaders………………..

  • me

    These modern-day organizations that dare call themselves ‘churches’ are headed by the most unspiritual, mammon-worshiping, money-grubbing, whoremongering, politically corrupt bunch of jackasses the world hasn’t seen since the days of Moloch-worship in the deserts of Egypt. They gladly telecast their sputum to the elderly, sick, weak, lonely, and vulnerable among us, begging for donations from their state-of-the-art tv studios. With their pompador-headed, leisure-suited, and cap-toothed metrosexual preachers oozing their oily ‘charm’ in the name of JEESUS, it’s hard to believe that people take them seriously. Along with their botox-injected, porcelan-nailed, Mary Kay addicted, tarted-up ‘beards’ that they call ‘wives’, they cry and warble out hymns in a way that will make your brain slowly melt and drip out of your ears. TAX THESE FUCKERS INTO OBLIVION, and give the money to the widows and orphans…..it’s what JEESUS would approve of, after all….
    Better yet, let the Papacy spend some of their TRILLIONS of dollars–stolen over history by such fun activities as the INQUISITION, WITCH BURNING, and INDULGENCES–pay for all of these third-world converts. They must have enough money to spare, since they refuse monetary compensation to the victims of priests who like to indulge in the SICK hobby of kiddie molesting.
    There’s a reason that they call their flock of followers ‘sheep’….because only stupid sheep would continue to support these corrupt institutions.
    It also figures that these demonic charlatans would be behind mass immigration into the United States.

  • razorrare

    Title should read…Jews Mobilize 100,000 Churches for Immigration Reform.

  • razorrare

    How about Amren posting recent articles from real White racialist like Kevin MacDonald and David Duke…How about an article that Honors the late Dr. William Pierce? Naw,didnt think so…but rag articles like this one makes the cut!!!

  • FourFooted_Messiah

    Well, what does one expect from the “brotherhood of man” and “all humans are God’s children” (but no other species qualifies) garbage?

    Spew on the churches. If my dog or cat can’t go to heaven, I see no reason why an east indian should. And I sure wouldn’t want to go to a heaven with nothing but arrogant self-aggrandizing human apes anyway.

    Let me be reincarnated as a man-eating tiger instead. then I’ll see about taking care of asian overpopulation.

  • / Yo, AR. Wonderful blog. Are you aware that you’re a part of this webby “River”? /

    The Background Obama Can’t Cover Up !

    Islam, part of the Living River of History, affected even the 2012 US election!
    The “headwaters” of this River was Adam, according to Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc .

    In the OT (Deut. 28), “tributaries” wanting to join the River will be
    blessed while “distributaries” who want to flow away from it will be
    cursed. Those wishing to totally separate from the fresh Living River
    will end up as polluted, dying “oxbow lakes.”
    In the OT we see
    Israelites repeatedly flowing away from God, then repenting and
    returning to Him; we also see heathen “oxbow lakes” creating their own
    “gods” and being allowed by God to plunder and kill the erring
    Israelites.
    Then, at the right time, the Living River took on new life with the arrival of the Promised One who offers “living water.”

    In the 7th century Islam, drawing from both OT and NT, chose to be a
    distributary away from this River. Many scholars have viewed it as the
    final Antichrist: note “scourge” (Isa. 28), “Assyrian” (Mic. 5),
    “Euphrates” (Rev. 9) etc.
    God will allow this “scourge” to
    temporarily persecute and even kill apostate Jews (JINOs) and Christians
    (CINOs). Jews, especially in “entertainment,” seem more expert in
    apostasy than Christians since Jews have been at it 2000 years longer
    than Christians have (Google “jewishfaces.com/porn.html”) – but
    Christians apparently want to catch up to the Jews!
    It’s
    apparent that others will join Islam in its end-time inquisition; its
    great oil wealth can captivate many leaders and already we are seeing
    apostate American leaders being bribed into turning against true
    American patriots.
    Those who ignore (or try to dilute or
    destroy) the God-ordained Living River of History will be swept down it
    to an ocean made by their own never-ending tears of agony and despair.

    The good news is that American JINOs & CINOs can overcome the
    “scourge” discussed above. The secret is found by checking out “II
    Chronicles 7:14” & “John 3:16” on the web.
    There’s still
    time – and freedom – to Google or MSN “Obama Promotes Public Sex,”
    “Obama a Black-Slavery Avenger?,” “Dangerous Radicals of the Religious
    Right,” “Pretrib Rapture Politics,” “Mikey Weinstein, Jesus-Basher,”
    “Christ’s return is NOT imminent,” “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,”
    “Pretrib Rapture Secrets,” and (for dessert) “Pretrib Rapture Pride.”

    In light of Matthew 7:2, if we tolerate Christian leaders who lie to us
    and steal from us, we shouldn’t be surprised if God allows us to have
    political leaders who lie to us and steal from us!

    A Kansas Patriot (who won FIRST PLACE over 2200 entrants in a nationwide Americanism essay contest)