After Bloody Weekend, Chicago Mayor Pleads for Help: ‘You’re Not a Snitch’

Lisa Balde, MSNBC, August 28, 2012

After another violent weekend in his city, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel has a message for anyone involved in the shootings that left nine people killed and 37 injured: Stop the culture of silence.

“I’d like to remind everybody that it also requires a community to step up,” Emanuel said Monday at an unrelated press conference. “You’re not a snitch, you have a role in community policing.”

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Last year a Chicago mother was arrested after she allegedly drove her son and an accomplice to shoot a person they believed was a snitch. The year before, a dying 17-year-old took the name of his killer to the grave.

“I know,” Robert Tate reportedly said when asked if he knew who shot him in the chest, “but I ain’t telling you.”

Last week, eight people were struck in a drive-by shooting at 79th Street and South Essex Avenue, and community activist Andrew Holmes said some of them reportedly weren’t cooperating with police.

“The persons have been struck by gunfire, they need to step up and speak up for us,” Holmes told NBCChicago.com. ”Nine times out of 10, they knew who was firing the shot at them.”

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  • Rahm wants people to snitch.  Meanwhile, Rahm’s former boss raises money from a basketball goon who prominently featured himself in “Stop Snitching” videos.

    Gee, Rahm, whatever happened to “leave those kids alone?”

    • seattlesnow

      that logic doesn’t add up 

      •  Carmelo Anthony.  Ever hear of him?

        I forgot to add, he has a “WB” logo tattoo on one of his shoulders. That’s “WB” as in “Warn a Brother,” as in “if you see the police, warn a brother.”

        http://countenance.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/melo-wb.jpg
        http://www.afunworld.com/crazy-pictures/picture-809.htm
        http://goo.gl/og1UZ

        • MekongDelta69

          Wow! Really?! A black thug NBA player was hangin’ with black thugs? Really?! Who knew such a thing could happen? I’m shocked and appalled (or is that, ‘shocked and awed’?), I tell you…

        • seattlesnow

          only one problem, Carmelo Anthony is from the great city of Baltimore in Maryland in that same video he is just “hanging out” just like everybody else as the camera is rolling… hell I might even be in the same video! 

          •  You seem like you’re new here.  So before I break your heart, I’m going to cut to the chase and tell you that I’m sort of arrogant, sort of a know-it-all, and I’m basically Eddie Haskell without the unctuosity.  But I do have a compassionate side, that I only let out once in awhile, and I’m going to use it on you.

            I think it’s all over for you.  You need to find one of those homes for what was once euphemistically called “rest.”  And I’m saying this because you’re a human being with human dignity and…aw hell, even I can’t kid myself for that long.

            How do I know this?

            You called Baltimore “great.”

          • Major

            LMAO…yea Baltimore was “great” when Homicide was still on. At least you got a real feel for that once “great” place. Now it has so many blessed Interstate loops around it…you’ll be safer to never get out of your car.

            Eddie Haskell? Nah…maybe Patrick Henry.

          • seattlesnow

            well if you “watched” the video you’ll clearly see that Mr. Anthony is in some Northeast City than anywhere in the Midwest or Chicago for that matter thats why I question is Mr. Anthony even irrelevant to what you are trying to get at? Then again where are you located somewhere like Iowa or Wisconsin? You visit cities like Chicago or Washington and stay within the friendly confines of the tourist corral with a blatant disregard to the human conditions that really knows any racial or ethnic background but yes I’m new here but its not my 1st time to the rodeo as its nice to see what I’m up against and I don’t me just people that “look” like me but everybody in this melting pot as people like you need some scapegoat to blame at the America you’ve been sold and marketed is changing and you don’t like it however as much as you like to think you are apart of the solution you are more of the problem then anything because you appeal to the lowest common dominator as you type from “safe spaces” wherever you reside in this Great Nation. Don’t worry, tonight I’m also in a relatively “safe space” however I’m not so far removed from the human conditions that all Americans face. I somewhat became more willing to try and do something about it than just sit around all day and bitch on the internet. What are you going to do “flag” me for coming into your world and pointing out your flawed logic of lack of knowledge beyond your own social bubble because you believe Uncle Sam is out to get you because of how you look in the mirror? Really, get a grip and get one fast because we need you to join the 21st Century as you have nowhere else to go and harbor these views unless its behind your keyboard. Europeans, Canadians even Australians wouldn’t entertain your views so what do you have beyond going Ruby Ridge, don’t get me wrong the rate things are going I think about going Ruby Ridge myself  however we couldn’t be neighbors or friends because I’m not going to walk on eggshells to make you feel better and I hope you don’t do the same as please carry on like you are. Blissfully ignorant to the point you couldn’t even point out that city in the video is Baltimore the greatest city in America according to what is scribed on the public benches. Wait on 2nd thought, maybe we don’t need you. When I see someone that looks just like you move into a neighborhood with people that looks like me they might be gentrifiers however they harbor the “can do” attitude you’ve seem to forgot along the way while looking for discounts of Kraft mac-and-cheese at the big box stores you people love but thats a different story. This whole outfit is disturbing but necessary because I value free speech and free people regardless of background. You can talk tough in the nets and in closed circles however beyond that your words couldn’t even crush egg shells. Enjoy isolation, self loathing and whatever you people do out there in Wisconsin. Thank you for being part of the problem!             

          • Huh?

            Did anyone else get all that?  Something about buying boxes of mac-and-cheese at a big box mart near a rodeo in Ruby Ridge.  Or, something like that.  Damned if I know.

            That rant needed a few more periods, to be quite honest.

          • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

            Never before have I seen so many words used to say “you don’t know because you’re not black.”

            Friends of yours:

            Periods
            The enter key
            Brevity

            Acquaint yourselves, please, if you are going to continue posting here.

          •  Don’t blame him, I think I might have pushed one of his wrong buttons, and all the anger and frustration came pouring outs sans the help of proper punctuation or paragraph breaks.  Major above compared me to Patrick Henry, but I bet Patrick Henry’s girlfriend never threw him out of the house after he told her he didn’t love her because there was no such thing as love then calling her father a dufus to her face in spite of the fact that he was shacked up with her in her father’s house.

            What came pouring out of the mouth of the young lady who was closest ever to becoming Mrs. Q.D. was even more anger-filled and less coherent than our new buddy SeattleSnow.

          •  This might be a fool’s errand, but I’m going to try to glean some actual point from his rant and respond to them below.

          •  tl;dr

            > …while looking for discounts of Kraft mac-and-cheese at the big box stores you…

            mac&cheese is the most delicious food ever invented

          • MekongDelta69

            Since there’s no ‘Reply’ link under your ‘comment’ below, I’ll put this here.

            I just have to say that was THE MOST incoherent rant I’ve ever seen posted on AmRen and I’ve been here since the beginning.

            Are you SURE you don’t work for MSNBC?

          • CoweringCoward

             I remember Ruby Ridge, was my start in politics really, prior to that the Wrangle/Reagan machinegun grab slipped by me.

          • RisingReich

            re: SeattleSnow (aka Mr. Case-In-Point)
            I was going to say his incoherent, rambling, run-on forever babbling does more to prove our point on this board than anyone of us here posting could demonstrate. 

            Please, please, post more Mr. Case-In-Point.

            Only a black from Baltimore could somehow tie together ‘Melo, Ruby Ridge, rodeos, mac-n-cheese and ‘greatness’.

            Go on believing that us realists here in fly over country are weak and incapable.  The joke is on you, BRO.

          • seattlesnow

            meh I was in a hurry however only I could tie in ‘Melo, Ruby Ridge, rodeos, mac-n-cheese and ‘greatness’ but I’m from Buffalo then again I spend a lot of time in Baltimore. Its not a bad place, you are more then welcome to join us in the Charm City.  

          • Shawn_thefemale

             Seattle,

            My head is spinning. You type like my sister.  She gradumacated, too. 

            “I question is Mr. Anthony even irrelevant to what you are trying to get at? ”

            A dictionary is a handy little tool.

          • Marcy Fleming

             Amen ! What a sorry wordsalad.

  • Obama has appointed 2 justices to the US Supreme Court (aka SCOTUS), and both have voted against gun and self-defense rights. We won both the Heller and MacDonald cases before SCOTUS by 5 votes to 4. As long as Obama does not appoint any more justices to SCOTUS, we should win Shall Issue Right-to-Carry for the entire US within 2 years! Then, violent crime rates will go down in the 9 states that are not Shall Issue now, as has happened w/every other state after it went Shall Issue.

    http://www.gun-nuttery.com/rtc.php 

    Support AmRen, support the Second Amendment Foundation, support the NRA!

  • ncpride

    “You’re not a snitch, you have a role in community policing.”

    Hmmm….. well that didn’t work out so well for George Zimmerman, now did it Rham?

  • Ulick

    Policing a black neighborhood presents a racist Catch-22.

    If extra police are committed to black neighborhoods to help keep the high crime rate down, blacks scream that they are being unfairly profiled and the extra policing is racism.

    If the police cower to those claims and remove police from that area, the crime rate will skyrocket (as it always does in a predominatly black neighborhood with little supervision).  Residents will then blame that high crime rate on lack of police placed in the area because white people don’t care about black people.

    White people can do no right in black people’s eyes when it comes to policing.

    • MekongDelta69

      There are only two possible solutions to the Catch-22.

      1.) Put ONLY non-white cops in non-white neighborhoods.
      2.) Remove ALL the cops from non-white neighborhoods and let them blow each other to bits. Who cares what the survivors call us?

      White people can do no right in black people’s eyes when it comes to policing.

      White people can do no right in black people’s eyes when it comes to ANYTHING. The mere fact we *exist* ticks them off.

      • Detroit_WASP

        I vote for option TWO. 

      • LaSantaHermandad

        Bravísimo!!!!! Damn I wish I’d said that first. Seriously let’s try #1 first then #2.
        I’d bet that if the Black cops are forced to shoot these cretins there would be no backlash from the “Civil Rights Cartel”. 
        Maybe they could take a stadium and hold gladiator type events using the rival gangs. Surround the seating with a ballistic material (Lexan) , arm the combatants with handguns and let them have at it. The money raised could be used for Cancer, Alzheimer’s and other disease research. It might be even more entertaining the football.

      • I don’t believe even black cops want to work in black neighborhoods. I see lots of blacks in patrol cars in my neighborhood. No cop, black or white, want to work the ‘black east side’ of Buffalo, NY.

      • Marcy Fleming

         I vote for Number Two.

    • Exactly so.

      They bitch and whine that ‘the police don’t care’ but when the police show up and get tough on crime, they scream ‘racism!’

      No cop wants to patrol a black neighborhood. Not because of the violence but because they know their career can be ruined in a second if a black person charges them with ‘racism’.

    • Marcy Fleming

       Leave them to stew in their own juices.

  • MekongDelta69

    Last year a Chicago mother was arrested after she allegedly drove her son and an accomplice to shoot a person they believed was a snitch.

    What’s so unusual about this? This is how my Mom and I spent our Saturday evenings, “bonding” and spending “quality time.” My friend and I were just enjoying a “play date.”
    (Another three expressions I can’t stand).

    Thanks Mom!

  • Church_of_Jed

    Blacks refuse to cooperate with the police,

    and accuse those who do as having “slavery mentality,” after excusing black violent crime as “internalized racist oppression that forces us to hurt our own communities at the bidding of White privilege, systemic bias, structual inequity, and institutional bigotry”.

  • People are dying daily in an ongoing urban war in Chiraq, but hey at least Rahm and Co. successfully protected the noble citizens of Chicago from that evil, hateful Chick-Fil-A corporation.  

  • gerardv

    Culling the herd. Don’t know why the mayor wants this to stop.

    •  Because it won’t cull the herd.

      If there are ten human beings on Earth, all of reproductive age, 9 are women and one is a man, then there can be nine new human beings in the world every nine months.  Reverse it, nine men and one woman, and there is only one new human being in the world every nine months.

      Black crime won’t “cull the herd” because it’s men killing men.  Not men killing women of reproductive age.

      • CoweringCoward

         They do also slaughter their females at high rates too, but as you have suggested, not high enough.

    • Church_of_Jed

      Because Obama needs a big heard to staff his civilian army in the war against White privilege. The ex con felons will make good soldiers, especially those who were in for Life (until parole).

      • RisingReich

         They will be a handful, you bet, in close quarters or hand to hand situations.
        However, not much at 300 yards, if you know what I mean.

  • brew730

    Can’t possible measure the amount of time and energy white people spend on solving the problems of blacks.  They don’t see to be asking for help so why bother?

    • Major

      Why should we bother? It’s obvious they’re comfortable with their own unique style of aborting each other.

      • It’s called a “post-birth” abortion. As in, “George Zimmerman is accused of performing a post-birth abortion on Treyvon Martin”.

        Or, “Juwansea Aziz Muhammad performed a post-birth abortion on Hosea Jamal Meeks.”

        Abortion – it’s not just for pregnant women anymore.

        • CoweringCoward

           “Extreme late term”, like RIGHT NOW.

  • Detroit_WASP

    Rahm can’t change a million years of evolution with mere progressive policies!  That’s the mistake all liberals make.

  • Rahm and Obama need not worry too much, at least these dead thugs can still vote in Chicago elections.

    Actually I don’t think that will help Obama this time. Therefore, the good news is Obama can return to his community organizing in Chicago.

    • CoweringCoward

       Rahm-Bongo back to da Chicongo 2012!

  • Dr. Möbias

    Last week, eight people were struck in a drive-by shooting 

    And that idiot Rahm is wringing his hands over a chicken sandwich shop.

    What Chicago needs is a good community organizer.   Obama will be available starting in January, 2013.

    shootings that left nine people killed

    Rahm isn’t worried.  In his town, the dead vote reliably.

    • dukem1

       And really, none of the dead are his people anyhow…His core constituency certainly, but not his people.

  • IKantunderstand

     Let them kill themselves. I’m waiting for reports of cannibalism, you know, like the reports of (General/Colonel) Butt Naked. I don’t want to sound unconcerned, but wait a minute, I am. They don’t “snitch”, they don’t keep up their property, they don’t care about noise in theaters, they don’t care about their neighborhoods, they don’t care about littering, they don’t care about observing polite society protocol, in point of fact, they don’t care about anything I do. Allow me to add, they don’t care about me. Thus, it comes full circle: I don’t care about them. Bye! Feel free to kill each other! Don’t care if the perpetrators get caught, you don’t care, why should I?

    • dukem1

       Truer words were never spoken.

  • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

    What gets me every time a white liberal hoses down a movie theater in Colorado, or the “white supremacist” the media has been waiting for hits a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, or the NYPD mows down tourists, is the liberals come out wailing and gnashing teeth with “see, the gun violence in this country is out of control and we need stricter gun laws, and let me site statistics to prove it” when the statistics overwhelmingly represent deaths in ghetto gang warfare.

    Two weekends in Chicago dwarf the carnage a James Holmes pulls off once a year, and that’s two weekends out of fifty-two in just one black hell hole in the United States.  If only the media spent weeks talking about black mass shooting events every time one happened, we might get some more white folks to realize there IS an out-of-control violent segment of our population that something needs to be done about, and it isn’t white men.

    •  Excellent point.  How can we go about subtracting black-on-black shootings from gun crime statistics?  Are they in the same database somewhere?

  • It’s just one difference between white and black communities.

    White communities won’t tolerate vermin in their midst and will work with the police to make their neighborhoods safe. Black communities tolerate anything and everything and then they wonder why “no one cares”.

    If blacks don’t care, why should I?

    • You’re supposed to care, because NOT caring would brand you as a “racist”, sbuffalo. But I understand your last sentence completely…only I put it, “if Bantus don’t GAF, why should I, GAF?”

      Remember that article  here, on the aptly-named Martin Luther King housing project in Detroit, where it was crime-ridden and a hell-hole; and some Bantu woman resident complained “nobody cares about us”?

      You would think that a housing project named after a man spoken about so lovingly, and worshipped by Bantus, and white Trotskyites; would be kept in tip-top shape by the residents therein. After all, don’t his acolytes foam at the mouth every time they think someone speaks ill of him or his memory, or uses his image?

      You would think that…

      But then again, we are talking about Bantus, who are more destrutive to housing than a termite colony in a frame dwelling, or all the forces of Nature combined. 

      • RisingReich

         Thinking in the ‘new age of enlightenment’ will get you in trouble.  Knock it off, you might stumble on truth, and subsequently speak it, which can be a fatal error.

  • As I write this, a total of 55 people have been killed in the month of August, in the city of Chicago, with two days left to go. Last year 37 people were killed in August, so that’s a 50% increase. To the surprise of absolutely no one here at Amren, some 96% of the crime victims are Bantu  (78%) and mestizo (18%) according to the free rag Redeye. Of course, this rag tries to skew the numbers by saying that mestzo-surnamed individuals are “white”. So, deceased  Jose Lopez is counted as “white”, the same as Steve Kowalski or Joshua Weinberg.

    Actually, the totals are higher, because these figure do NOT take into account criminals shot and killed by law enforcement officers. I don’t know those numbers.I’m bemused by Rahm Emanuel telling the Bantus, “you have a role in community policing”. And yet, this same mayor spits on the right of people to defend themselves with a handgun, in Chicago. To him, that’s “taking the law into your own hands’, and that’s worse than treason. BTW, wasn’t George Zimmerman being a part of “community policing” in Sanford, FL?This “no snitching” in the Bantu ghetto is nothing more than a pitiful imitation of the Mafia’s omerta. Ironically, in one sense, Bantus are trying to “act white”.   

  • JackKrak

    “I’d like to remind everybody that it also requires a community to step up,”

    No, Mr. Mayor, it requires a community to leave their barbaric nature behind & that ain’t gonna happen…..

  • CoweringCoward

     I don’t think improving black marksmanship is the answer, I was quite happy when Hollywood taught them how to be “cool gangstas” and how to hold a pistol “properly” (if you like missing your target and casings hitting you in the face). Leave it be, these randomly flung “societal improvements” do more good than if they were accurately directed, this way, some breeding age females are culled as well.

  • seattlesnow wrote:

    well if you “watched” the video you’ll clearly see that Mr. Anthony is
    in some Northeast City than anywhere in the Midwest or Chicago for that
    matter thats why I question is Mr. Anthony even irrelevant to what you
    are trying to get at

    I didn’t bring it up for the purposes of geography.

    Then again where are you located somewhere like Iowa or Wisconsin?

    I’m actually in Juba, South Sudan.

    You visit cities like Chicago or Washington and stay within the friendly confines of the tourist corral

    Yes, I stay in the friendly confines of a tourist corral because I have this bad habit of not wanting die early and the cops making a chalk line around my body on a sidewalk in Chocolate City.

    Don’t worry, tonight I’m also in a relatively “safe space” however I’m
    not so far removed from the human conditions that all Americans face.

    As opposed to me — I’m living the absolute high life.  I don’t have a care or worry or concern in the world.  Now, where’s that sarcasm tag?

    I somewhat became more willing to try and do something about it than just sit around all day and bitch on the internet

    What’s wrong with bitching on the internet?  First off, it’s a whole lot better than incoherently ranting on the internet.  Second, AR has worked wonders for my self-actualization.

    pointing out your flawed logic

    When have you pointed out my flawed logic?  The closest you got was to say that the “logic” of my first post in this thread “doesn’t add up.”  Of course, logic is irrelevant in this case because I wasn’t making an observation, not an argument.

    You, OTOH, should work on your expository writing skills before you start picking apart the logic of my arguments, whenever you decide to start.

    we need you to join the 21st Century

    Hey, you got the right century!  You’re qualified to be Vice-President.

    Europeans, Canadians even Australians wouldn’t entertain your views

    That comes as news to the Europeans, Canadians and Australians who are regulars here.

    Baltimore the greatest city in America according to what is scribed on the public benches

    Now there’s an authoritative source, what people scribble on public benches.  If I really believed what was scribbled on public benches, I would really believe that “Tanquerraye” will give me a good time, and not what she would really give me, an STD.

    When I see someone that looks just like you move into a neighborhood with people that looks like me they might be gentrifiers

    You seem to like gentrifiers.  So do I.  I’ve notice that certain cities are the only place where white people are displacing non-white people, and it’s mostly white liberals doing it.  That said, there is very little love for white gentrifiers among most blacks.  The only reason the hostility isn’t greater is that blacks are being pushed to inner suburbs.

    at the big box stores you people love

    I would say again that I despise big box stores and do as little business with them as possible, but I don’t want to get into another argument about ethanol.

    Enjoy isolation, self loathing and whatever you people do out there in Wisconsin.

    We Wisconsinites have many creative uses for cheese.

    • seattlesnow

      we might agree on ethanol as its a sin to turn food into fuel where there is other renewable resources however beyond that, leave the beating path and really see the city for what it is, trust me we don’t bite just don’t look “sheepish” we can kind of smell fear or something  

      •  we might agree on ethanol as its a sin to turn food into fuel where there is other renewable resource

        Carney, here’s your chance.

        trust me we don’t bite

        Except if your name is Mike Tyson.

        just don’t look “sheepish” we can kind of smell fear or something

        Finally, you got something right.

  • They ran out of bean pies.

  • Sheila Dinehart

    Kinda makes you wonder about the Mayor and he Nation Of Islam’s FOI doesn’t it?  No one seemed to ask the question *exactly what do you mean you are going to create a human wall of protection?*, how many ways might that work? Protection for what? Protection against what?