Why do Indian Americans Support Obama?

Visi R. Tilak, Wall Street Journal, June 3, 2012

An overwhelming 85% of Indian Americans support Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election, according to a poll conducted earlier this year. The results of the study, which were published in early May, also revealed that only 67% of Indian Americans polled voted for Obama in 2008.

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Mr. Obama has shown strong support for Indian Americans, appointing them to some of the highest offices and continuing to laud the contribution of Asian Americans, even though his outsourcing policies have raised eyebrows.

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Mr. Obama has appointed many Indian Americans to key positions, including Preet Bharara—U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York; Aneesh Chopra—U.S. Federal Chief Technology Officer; Deepa Gupta—Member, National Council on the Arts; Arunava Joshi Majumdar—Under Secretary of Energy; and Subra Suresh, Director of the National Science Foundation.  Earlier this year, the Obama Campaign also appointed actor Kalpen Modi (better known as Kal Penn), California’s first female attorney general, Kamala Harris, and former White House intern and Virginia Commonwealth University student Sai Iyer as co-chairs of the re-election campaign.

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A May 14 fundraiser organized by Raj Goyle, a Democratic Indian American politician from Kansas, was indicative of the community’s growing sense of political empowerment. Mr. Goyle, who represented the 87th District in the Kansas House of Representatives from 2007 to 2011, hosted the event at the Rubin Museum in New York—which some refer to as a $100 million love letter to South Asia. There was a private cocktail reception with the president, featuring food inspired by the Himalayas and exclusively prepared by world renowned Indian American chef Vikas Khanna.

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  • ricpic

    “Good” minorities. Whenever I hear Indian-Americans or Chinese-Americans or Japanese-Americans or Vietnamese-Americans described as good minorities I am stunned by the naivete of those who think a nation boils down to economic units. There is no trust, there can be no trust across the racial divide. Because they will never be part of your family and you will never be part of theirs. Every other consideration pales in comparison to that bedrock and insurmountable fact.

    • mikejones91

      I trust my doctor, and he is Indian. He is a very pleasant/humanitarian type. My only problem with him is he talks about “god” too much. Whenever I thank him, he says “do not thank me my friend, thank god.”

      • IstvanIN

        The goofy “god” with six arms that lives behind the squishey machine no doubt.

        • Sherman_McCoy

          Please do not offer a peanut to my god, Mr. Simpson.

          — Dr Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

  • Francis Galton

    I’ll admit that I’m ambivalent towards Indian Americans–on the one hand, I’m a little startled by the fact that in my home state of Virginia, the population of Indians exploded from 48,815 in 2000 to 103,916 in 2010 (nationally, it changed from 1,678,765 to 2,843,391 between 2000 and 2010).  Of course, I’m not happy about the fact that it represents a huge growth in the non-White population.  Moreover, who can fail to notice what a basket case India is? It is doubtful that Indians in large groups can form desirable civilizations. 

    On the other hand, they seem to be a sort of model minority, at least the ones with the means/wherewithal to immigrate to the US.  Almost every Indian-American I have encountered has either been an entrepreneur (convenience stores, of course!), or a current/future professional (engineer, scientist, pharmacist, and so on).  The ones I’ve encountered have always been reserved, polite, and not prone to cause trouble (seriously, how much crime is committed by Indians in America?!).  I’d take Indians over blacks/mestizos/reds without hesitation.  Again, though, this is probably a sort of self-selection bias.  If the US treated Indians the way they treat Somalis (Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses…), perhaps they would start causing more trouble, too.

    As to why they voting overwhelmingly for Obama, I can only speculate.  How any entrepreneur or an otherwise successful person could support Obama is beyond me.  Maybe they’re down with the brown?  Maybe they’ve swallowed the propaganda that Rethugs beez RAYCISS!  I doubt it’s because Obama has appointed a disproportionate number of Indian-Americans to key positions, though.

    • mikejones91

      Thats what it probably is. With their caste system and everything, only the smart ones make it over. 

    •  Why do they vote Democrat he asks?  It’s quite elementary my dear Watson, They are NOT WHITE!

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      I agree only to an extent. The white collar Indians I meet half the time hardly come across as intelligent. It is insulting to me that white male engineers are getting kicked to the curb for these people.

      • hkq999

        This is extremely old I know, but I have to ask: how are they not intelligent if they are able to become engineers? And don’t say affirmative action, that only gets you so far.

    • IstvanIN

      I work with far too many Indians and they are no smarter than whites.  Some are lazy and deceitful, some are quite hard working and pleasant.  They are the model minority because they are a minority.  Once they can run things you’ll have cows wondering the streets, dead bodies in rivers and goodness knows what else.

      • The__Bobster

        http://www.vdare.com/posts/more-on-indian-atrocities

        More on Indian Atrocities
        By Patrick Cleburne on March 15, 2009 at 2:21pm

        My posts here and here on the DC /IndianOut Sourcing DC Technology/Vivek Kundra scandal have been very informative.

        I have learned of an extremely virile blog Life of an I.T.Grunt which appears to have coined the phrase H[indu]-1B.

        I.T.Grunt gets a lot more profane than Peter Brimelow would allow on this site (Acknowledge, $PLC!). But I think it is a serious national problem when intelligent men are so upset. (Memo to DC Establishment: Colonels, not Generals, lead military coups.) And why would they not, with their families’ livelihoods at stake?

        A comment on the post linked to above is, I think, of crucial importance to navigating multicultural America:

        At 4:16PM Anonymous said:

        Once the Hindu-Indians take over the whole IT department (Hindu only IT ghetto), the following series of events takes place-

        1. Hindu-Indian programmers further divide into two groups (North Indian Hindus and South Indian Hindus). This dividing process takes in few weeks.

        2. North Indian Hindu programmers further divide into five groups (Punjabis, Gujarathis, Marathis, Bengalis and the rest). This dividing process takes in few months.

        3. At the same time, South Indian Hindu programmers further divide into four groups (Telugus, Tamilians, Kannadigas and Malayalis). This dividing process takes in few months.

        4. Only one of the nine above mentioned sub-groups finally ‘survives’ and ‘occupies’ the whole IT department. This dividing process take at least a year.

        5. Among the final group, each Hindu-Indian IT programmer tries to bring their spouse/sibling by eliminating other ones.

        6. So, the left overs in this final Hindu-Indian programming group will be a couple of ‘families’ and ‘extended families’. The cubicles will become their ‘homes’.

        Conclusion – So here we have a ‘Slum dog Family’ Hindu-Indian Programmers forming a chaotic mini-Third World country within the IT departments across the Western corporate world.

        Totally incompetent and abusing the unsuspecting USCIS department (which issues H1B visas) by sponsoring their unskilled spouses and siblings.

    • 1Forced_Registration

       Not only is it selection bias, it is institutional bias for getting into those programs such as pharmacy school, medical school, and engineering schools. Yes, you can pluck the best of the Indian population & get them into fields that require a fair degree of intelligence with a good deal of success.

      For the most part I am somewhat indifferent to them, but I’ve had many experiences with Indians at college, and in medical school that have rubbed me the wrong way. There is an arrogance, and a “why should I have to do that?” attitude that has cropped up with a great frequency when they are held to the same standards as others. On the other hand, I respect the “cut through the red tape” attitude that many of them have; especially when much of college was merely jumping through hoops to demonstrate you can jump through hoops.

  • Johnny Reb

    I couldn’t tell at first if the article was talking about the ones who worship cows or the ones who wear the feathers.  Neither are good for whites.  The ones mentioned in this article (cow worshippers) are extremely insulated from the rest of the US except when it suits them to mingle.  The other ones seem to have hit their stride in the white world with casino operations.

    We Americans don’t seem to learn lessons very quickly or very well.  We ignored the threat of Mexican immigration and now have Aztecs demanding their land back.  We let Muslims in and now they want sharia.  We allowed the blacks to stay and our payback is gibbsme and crime.

    Take one good look at Bombay, Calcutta and New Delhi and I think you’ll see what’s coming;  the worst parts of Blade Runner.

           

    • This ^.

      But I say “Let it happen”.

      The worse it gets for America the Republic, the better it will get for us whites.

      Only through the destruction of the old can we be afforded the opportunity to build the new.

      I’m a big fan of the Old Republic in it’s original form (at least until 1861).  But what we have today is an aberration.  A Tower of Babel.  We are fracturing at an incredible rate, and though I am sad about the passing of the Old Republic (or what’s left of it), it must be gotten rid of so that we can build our future without interference from the other races.

      Yes, we will be diminished geographically and in population, but we will be superior in quality.  I’ll take medium-sized and awesome vs giant and sub-standard.

      One can even forcast the whites re-conquering the areas we lost to the Uruk and goblins at some distant future date…

      • Sherman_McCoy

        Perhaps, but we may not have the stomach to clear a land of rabble for ourselves.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

           Yes, we will.

          We Whites didn’t get this far playing nice otherwise we wouldn’t have survived.  Fighting back and retaliation are in our DNA and it WILL manifest itself when enough of our homelands have been wrenched from us and White extermination starts.

          The goal of non-Whites is the take-over of our homelands and genocide against us.  It may take until the shooting starts before Whites get this message,  that it’s fight or die, but it WILL happen.

          Even a rabbit will fight back if cornered.

          I don’t know about you but I don’t plan to go down without fighting with everything I’ve got — starting with the people who put us in this position in the first place.

          What Luke wrote a few days ago bears repeating (and repeating and repeating and repeating):

          We are not fighting an enemy who gives two hoots about fair play, sportsmanship, honor, or integrity.  This enemy fights dirty and is absolutely the most ruthless, cold-blooded, sadistic and violent enemy that White European people have ever faced.    
          Which requires sending all of these milk-toast, bible thumping, goody-two-shoes Christians to the bench and putting in our A team.To defeat them, Whites must be 10 times more ruthless than they are.This is 100% correct, is not in dispute, has already begun and is accelerating.Bon

          • Why is this being blamed on Christians? Its secular Humanists that believe all people are equal. The left abhors Christianity because its the white-man’s religion. Christians, more often then not, believe in missionary work, bringing Christ to them in their lands. What true Christian would welcome a flood of Muslims into their country?  

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            I agree with you Lucas.

            What disturbs me is that Christian churches do not stand up for Whites — Africans, illegal aliens, poor, homeless non-Whites — OK to give lavish services and monetary donations. Whites? …crickets….

            I quite the Presbyterian church, even though I love the traditions, singing the old hymns, even the silly pageantry — because it connected me to my heritage and ancestors.

            But what does the church do? Give millions to Africa and missionaries to go to Africa. Never were Whites lauded for their achievement or White issues addressed. For me, this is unacceptable as I see all around my homeland of California flooded with illegal immigrants, all of which the church thought was OK.

            Finally, when my congregation lost so many members that they were forced to consolidate with another small group and had to sell the beautiful old 30s-era church building I attended (which sat on a PRIME piece of real estate)?? ALL the money that came in from the sale — ALL OF IT — around 2.5 million dollars went to…..AFRICA and missionaries going to Africa.

            I left and never looked back.

            Maybe if more mainline protestant church would pay more attention to White issues, as black churches and Jewish synagogues pay attention to and help their own people, these churches wouldn’t be hemorrhaging members like me.

            BTW, the average age of the church I once attended? About 80, I’d say.

            Bon

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        It must be noted that this was done ON PURPOSE and BY DESIGN to the White population, and is happening world-wide to Whites and ONLY Whites!!

        It is only White homelands that must open their doors to the dregs of the Third World and go “multi-cultural” and “diverse” — this is being demanded of no other race’s homelands except for Whites.

        And make no mistake:  it is genocide against Whites.  Without homelands there will be no Whites.  Our enemies mean nothing less than genocide against us.  

        Spread the Word and Tell Everyone You Know.

        The evidence for White race replacement and genocide is on your side and is overwhelming.

        As for 7/11 Indians, not one of these creatures belongs on our continent.

        If you believe they do, justify it for everyone here.

        Bon

        • The Indians that for some odd reason you seem to malign so badly have come here legally, played by the book, contributed to some of the best advancements in the fields of science-technology, medicine, academics, business and economy. They commit almost 0% crime, and being the best educated and wealthiest ethno-racial group far surpassing whites in these categories pay their fair share of taxes. These are just a few reasons (there are many more) which justifies the presence of those “7/11 Indian creatures” on our continent. Fyi, most Indians in “our continent” are NOT 7/11, hotel, motel, supermarket,drug store or foodstore owners, statistically most of them are either doctors, engineers, physical therapists, dentists, programmers, pharmacists, researchers, scientists, academic professors or chartered accountants. There are also an increasing number of CEO’s of quite a few prominent fortune 500 companies and deans of major Ivy league schools who are Indian American. There are also those few who are politicians, music composers, stars, celebs and movie/ tv producers.

          The 7/11 stereotpe of Indians belongs in the 1980’s-90’s, the Indian-Americans of today have a different stereotpe!

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            You win the prize today — you are a militant, White-hating, pro-White genocidist.

            You know it, I know it and everyone here knows it.

            Bon

          • Seriously Bon, present your argument like a mature adult using facts and logic versus a logically incoherent infantile emotional outburst and if you could actually cease with the ridiculous name calling and read my posts, you could actually learn something! Maybe then I would bother to respond to your posts. The sour grapes complex must stop in favor of a more civil and rational confabulation. 

            Also, Indians coming here don’t have a low IQ, if anything, they are for the most part a lot more intelligent, talented, creative, capitalistic and shrewdly conservative. Despite most of them entering American shores being of the middle and lower middle class and a shortage of finance, in a few  short years their sheer intelligence, hard work, respect for the law and above all determination makes them professionally & economically successful. They are not only the best educated but also the wealthiest ethno-racial group in the United States.
            The evidence for that is overwhelming:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXHoSfUjfEE

            http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/24/bobby-jindal-indian-americans-opinions-contributors_immigrants_minority.html

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_American#Socioeconomic

          • And, you win the prize today–you are an infantile, delusional, imbecilic non-white hating, pro-non white genocidist.

            You know it, I know it and everyone here knows it.

            Jovi

          • slobotnavitch

            Angelina – Well said.  I just don’t understand hostility toward Indian-Indians.  They work hard, are law-abiding, generally display a good sense of humor, and like virtually all new immigrants tend to cluster in their own enclaves.  Give them a generation or two and they’ll blend right in, though they’ll tend to be at the top of our society in terms of education and earnings.  How dreadful!

            So many people see immigrants as taking a share of a finite pie, that their presence endangers the living standards of people born here. In actual fact, highly intelligent and productive immigrants grow the entire pie.  Yes, they can make it tougher for home-grown Americans to get into the premier schools in the country, and if they don’t stay after graduation they may well represent a net loss to our society.  But that’s a problem the higher educational establishment should address, not the feddle gummint.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Try to imagine how much brainwashing it would take to convince all the Indians living in India that they need to go ahead and replace themselves in India with sub-Saharan Africans or any other non-Indian race.

            Imagine Indians being told to NOT do this is racist and hateful.

            Yet this is what White hating trolls like “Angela Mendes,” “Aron from Toad Island,” “Linsay the Liberal” tell us is “best for us Whites.”

            How do you think Indians in India would like it if THEIR homeland were being inundated with millions of non-Indians who were putting an end to their historic culture and way of life?  How do you think they’d like it if they woke up one morning and found that the Prime Minister of India was a Pakistani?  

            Imagine patriotic Indians in India being accused of “racism” and “intolerance” simply because they want to save their historical culture in the face of extinction.  That won’t happen because there aren’t any people like you and Tim Wise demanding that India open its doors to non-Indians.

            The Indian race and culture are secure; ours is not.  We Whites are literally losing our nations and identity and some hateful like jerks like  Tim Wise and trolls on this forum are cheering it on.  We make up a declining 7% of the world’s population; in Britain, Native Born Whites make up 1% of the world’s population.

            If it’s right for one group of people to want to keep their culture, heritage and homelands, it’s RIGHT for ALL groups.

            What’s so hard to see about that?

            Bon

          • Yes yes yes!!Its called the Immigration Trickle Down theory! I cant wait–I tell you I just cant WAIT til my money comes rolling down to me! Bring in Indians! By the boatload! We’re all gonna be so rich! And you,slobotnavitch,you are NOT a brainless nincompoop!

          • robinbishop34

            Are you running a fever?

          • Well, if they’re so outstanding, why don’t they make a living for themselves back in their own country?

            Why do they have to come here?  There’s already a Billion of them.

            Let me be blunt:  I don’t CARE if they came here legally.  I don’t CARE if they ‘played by the rules’ (those rules set up by that fat murderer Ted Kennedy back in 1965, which spells our doom).

            Whites are being replaced, bred out of existance IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!

            What do you not get about that?

            Far as I’m concerned, Bon is right- you’re a militant white hater who wishes our genocide…

          • robinbishop34

            I think Israel needs more black geniuses.

          • all you had to say to totally deconstruct your argument was refer to them as “Indian-Americans.”  

            I’m an American

          • Oh great. A woman looks up from The Kardashians to share her “thoughts”. How cute you are. So sweet and good. Thank you,you brainless twit.

      • Only white people know how to operate US military equipment properly. If we do break out into a race war, there will be no contest. A draft of all able-bodied whites will purge the land, like Israel did in 1948. Seriously, are the blacks going to form an ethno-state capable of resisting white-america? or the mexicans?

        • Hello Lucas,

          An aside:  I almost named our son Lucas… it was one of the finalist names, anyways..

          I am a ‘assume the worst’ type individual.  My son calls me “Doctor Doom” because of my pessimistic attitude sometimes… I view myself as more of a realist:  Life is going your way, or it just ain’t fair.  There is hardly any middle ground, and more often than not, it just ain’t fair.

          I’m not a prognosticator… I have no secret source of information that allows me to fortell the future.  But judging from what I have seen during my lifetime, I feel confident that certain events WILL happen in our future.

          One of those certainties is economic armageddon.  It’s simple maths:  if you spend more than you take in, you run a debt.  If you borrow to make up the difference, the debt gets larger.  If your money supply is backed up by nothing but thin air and promises, eventually you will reach a point where it is worthless.  Once it becomes worthless, you cannot even afford to service your debt’s interest, and the whole thing crashes.

          Once the economy crashes, and it will, the Free Money Pipeline will be shut down for good.  Those who are dependant on taking the King’s Shilling will be hurt the most and, after a 3 to 4 day waiting period (just long enough for the Uruk to eat up the food stored in their homes), all of Hell will break loose. 

          Once that happens, the entire military, even if it COULD be mobilized, can only control a >small< percentage of the continental US.  The US is simply too vast for them to control everything. 

          That is, until the fuel runs out and soldiers realize they have their OWN families to look after, and leave.  Or worse, they don't show up to begin with!  (Think NOLA PD during Katrina- they just walked away).

          What happens after that?  I don't know… perhaps a multi-way struggle for the soul of the Republic and control of resources..

          One thing is certain.  Blood will flow.

  • The__Bobster

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/india-plans-to-pressure-obama-on-outsourcing-and-h-1b-issues

    India Plans to Pressure Obama on Outsourcing and H-1B Issues
    By Rob Sanchez on November 6, 2010 at 12:23pm

    President Obama will get a big reception when he arrives in India this weekend. Indian software and manufacturing interests plan to be among the first ones to meet with Obama. They plan to pressure him on the issues of outsourcing, immigration, and other job related issues. Expect the following issues to be of primary concern to the Indians who will have Obama’s ear:

    Offshore Outsourcing: India is worried about an anti-outsourcing backlash in the U.S. so they want assurances that the U.S. won’t move to restrict “free trade” with India. They will continue to push for a free trade agreement similar to NAFTA.

    H-1B and L-1 Visas: Simply put the Indians want more visas. They will also argue against any increases in the fees charged for visa processing.

    Totalization: India wants to link the social security systems of both countries together so that Indians who worked in the U.S. on temporary visas can draw Social Security benefits if they move back to India

  • IstvanIN

    We show good will towards everyone.  That is why we are in such a mess.  We are naive and get taken advantage of.

  • IstvanIN

    NJ is practically Hindustan now.  Delaware, Southern NJ and Pennsylvania should secede before Northern NJ, NY and Maryland Browns use the pincer movement to crush us.  New England should escape while there is a chance as well.

    • Talltrees

      Don’t some of these Indians practice Islam?

      • 138 million of them do

        • Talltrees

          Here in the U.S.?  Are there more Indian Muslims than Indian Hindus here?

    • mikejones91

      I was at the King of Prussia mall yesterday and that is ALL I saw. Driving there, that is ALL that I saw. Then when I got there, it was worse haha. 

      • The__Bobster

        There’s is an upscale mall nearby in Limerick and it’s chock full of dots. And for some reason, Kohl’s is full of them and their annoying chatter.

        • mikejones91

          Yeah I know where your talking about. The Outlets. I used to work there for some dirtbag gypsy. That’s all the outlets are, a destination for Asian/Indian Tourists/Immigrants. You ever go there on black Friday? More like brown Friday …..

  • Detroit_WASP

    When they say “Indians” are we talking dots or feathers??  Seriously, I don’t know.

    So “Indian Americans” are from India and “American Indians” are from North America?

    • Talltrees

      You got it!

    • crystal evans

       American Indians are officially called Native Americans.

      • robinbishop34

        I’ve always found that a curious title since ‘America’ didn’t exist until European settlers arrived.

        • mikejones91

          Exactly. The America as WE know it, the America OUR invaders know it, is just that, WHITE AMERICA. Unless of course they are talking about “Tribal America”, the one without plumbing/electricity/automobiles. In that case, we are the invaders. The word “invader” seems wrong though. WE made this place better did WE not? Blacks hate when whites say “we”.

  • alastairabbacle

    Dude,
    Dots not feathers.

    (btw I hear this all the time, even from business people, it’s probably against “diversity policy”)

  • Talltrees

    They are paid less.  That’s why they are there!

    What bank?  I want to make sure I don’t have an account or credit card there.  If I do, I will close them.

  • Talltrees

    Oh my, minorities only look out for themselves.  Marco Rubio is a good example.  He’s not even been asked to be VP, but has his nose in supporting Hispanics.  By the way, his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth; therefore, he is not a natural born citizen.  We must oppose if Romney chooses him.

    We need a White European president.

    • crystal evans

      Marco Rubio was born in the US and that makes him a natural born citizen since the US has birthright citizenship.

      • John Maddox

        Just because someone is born here and his citizenship is sanctioned by a single clause from the illegally ratified 14th amendment, which incidentally was only meant to apply to freed slaves. Doesn’t mean that they are going to become traditional Americans. The majority of these people still have an attachment to the land of their heritage and will always lean towards people of their kind .

        I don’t trust hyphenated Americanism. It makes my almost three hundred year heritage in this country meaningless and of little political value.

      • Talltrees

        You might find this website of interest.  Presented by a Constitutional lawyer, Harvard grad (cum laude).

        http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

        • John Maddox

           The site was interesting and informative but I disagree with some of his conclusions and his usual focus on justice for blacks. The fact is that the 14th has been the cause of much of this leftist mischief. It needs to be repealed. Its time passed with the end of reconstruction.It is a good example of why the founders  made  it so hard to amend the Constitution.

          Now that the concept of citizenship has become so corrupted even trying to define it Constitutionally is going to be a difficult process.
          There would have to be a political revolution in which all persons declared as citizens by improper application of the amendment would be stripped of their citizenship status. Niceties wouldn’t work on this one.

          For the case of the illegality of the 14th see (And just for clarity I should have used the word unconstitutional instead of illegal in my post) :

          http://www.sweetliberty.org/fourteenth.amend.htm

          • Talltrees

            Yes, I read others consider the Fourteenth Amendment unconstitutional, as well.  I agree.
            Without the Fourteenth, the presidential requirement as a ‘natural born’ citizen is adequately defined by John Jay and Supreme Court cases.
             Democrats attempting to change ‘natural born’ to just ‘citizen’ nine times from 1975 to 2007 or 2008, is quite revealing.  It’s obvious both Democrats and Republicans know ‘natural born’ is the requirement or Democrats wouldn’t have tried to change it.  It’s also quite revealing they tried right up to the time Obama announced his candidacy.  His father was not a citizen; therefore, according to John Jay and the addition of ‘natural born’ to the Constitution by George Washington, he is not a ‘natural born’ citizen.
            If you read the list of our Presidents with ‘natural born’ citizenship, you noticed they all were except the first nine who were grandfathered in, and Chester Arthur, a VP first, lied, destroyed his records, and was only found out long after his death. 
            My concern is the same as John Jay.  Without that requirement, a 35-year-old immigrant or someone with one parent a citizen of another country, residing in the U.S. for only 14 years could become president regardless of his country of origin.  Those who loosely call themselves ‘Americans,’ many are Third-World immigrants loyal to their native countries, would vote for someone like that.  Is living in the U.S. for 14 years enough to make someone as staunchly supportive and loyal to the United States and her citizens as a ‘natural born’ citizen would?”  I don’t think so.  Particularly, when we see Muslim, Asian Indian, and Hispanic countries being created within our country.
            Quite a few Republicans, as you know, insist our presidents be ‘natural born’ citizens.  I agree.  They will openly oppose Romney choosing Marco Rubio or Bobby Jindall because their parents were not citizens at the time of their births, regardless of how much they like them.  Some have said they will not vote for Romney if he chooses either one or anyone not a ‘natural born’ citizen because it is unconstitutional.

      • The__Bobster

        That has nothing to do with being a natural born citizen. I suggest you bone up on it.

  • ageofknowledge

    Lolol… that’s probably true.

    •  Indians benefit from racial social programs like Minority Loans from Department of Commerce.

      Indians, Pakistanis are the most corrupt people on earth.  They pretend like they are smart geniuses, job creators.  What they are is tax eaters and plunderers.

      And then they cry for racial handouts.  That is why they vote democrat.

  • hastings88

    I have discussed their support for Obama with several Indian professors at the college where I teach.  After bringing up some minor points like health care, their “real” reason that seems to emerge is that he represents a more cosmopolitan America.  In essence, they voted for him because he is not white.

    • Daniel

      Healthcare is a minor point?

  •  The Punjabis are looting and Plundering America, Punjabi ethnic nepotism is dangerous and subversive.

    At least ron paul will end department of commerce and education, which plunders white tax payers and indoctrinates.

  • MartelC

    The new, younger generation of Indians in America have adapted identity politics (google sepoy mutiny and you’ll see what i mean) and hostility towards whites – Anglo-Saxons in particular. 

    Also, the older generation lobbied the gov. and got themselves classified as Asian so they get low interest SBA loans and other scams… 

  • Sheila Dinehart

    Because they are still pissed off about those Spanish Blankets

  • WHY do injuns support Obamao?

    He’s colored, like they are
    AND
    he will GIVE THEM MORE WELFARE

  • Hi pc..

    I know “immigration” is radically different today.  The 1965 Immigration Act, which spelled our doom, was just the camel’s nose under the tent.

    I understand the point you’re making:  Immigrants that showed up here had to make it, sink or swim.  They banded together in enclaves for mutual help.  That’s what whites DO.  But within a generation, they learned out way of doing things and got with the program… this is also what whites DO:  adapt or die.

    However, this little argument has spun out of control (about the Hindus).  I don’t mind immigration, IF it is as it was in the beginning:  skilled whites welcome.  Everyone else?  Too bad.  I don’t care how brilliant or skilled you are… This Republic was meant to be white.  Our laws were written for whites, by whites.  By definition, non-whites will never be able to live happily under our system.

    Once our dying Republic becomes about 40% “other”, we will either break up into smaller ethno-states, or we will have another civil war.  History shows this to be truth-  EVERY nation that has allowed massive immigration (totalitarian state, Republic, Democracy, etc) has devolved into war, chaos and ruin once the population of “others” becomes great enough.

    There are NO exceptions.  It has happened every single time.  There is nothing “magical” about the US.  We were a Republic of whites.  Now we’re a… well, I don’t really know what we are right now….  polygot mess of 3rd world refuse and older whites holding onto the past?

    What I do know is that within my lifetime, the Republic will cease to exist as it is right now.  And I look forward to it.  Change is painful, and yes, there will be blood.  But I am willing to pay that price if it means my people, OUR people, are assured a future of non-interference from the other races.

    Forð Eorlingas!!

  • John Maddox

    The problem with these people is that they are basically pagan. They will always be Indians and they are basically immoral and unethical. They certainly aren’t those poor and huddled masses that are referred to in  the sonnet by Emma Lazarus.

    They come from Indias’ wealthy elite class and certainly don’t represent the lower cast of that country that suffer from adverse poverty and usually die at early ages from disease associated with the slums they live in.

    Do they come here to be good American’s? Do they plan to assimilate? I’d think again. The majority of them see Americans as an insolent lower cast whose only value lies in the cash they can bring to their businesses and professions. Forget Bobby Jindal and  Nikki Haley. They may be Republicans but they are still poster children for immigration.

    Most of these people are Marxist they will always have an attachment to India and have no love, appreciation or understanding for our Republican principles. I can’t think of any better example of this than Fareed Zakaria who constantly advocates for a complete rewrite of the Constitution that would expand minority rights, favor third world immigration, promote the idea of one person one vote, and eliminate second amendment rights entirely. That is something to think about as these people become  economically and politically more powerful.

  • They ALL have somewhere to run to if things get bad here in the US. That’s the biggest difference and why I will never trust any immigrant 100%. I have nowhere to go, I’m in this until the end.

  • The feathers are as bad as blacks (low IQ, no impulse control, high criminality). Keep them on the reservations.

  • pc,

    EVERYTHING is tribal… from where you live to how you vote to the friends you choose.

    It’s inescapeable.  It’s hard-coded into our DNA.

    This is why, for the sake of our people, whites, we should cede lands to the invaders where they can live (for now).  Form our own ethnic state and, when the time is right, take back what we gave away.

  • Yeah F*CK that dumb sleazy bitch. She wrote some kind of stupid ass biography that white people are supposed to get all teary-
     eyed about. Oh Look! Her daddy with his turban!! Oh they dont know our ways! SO hard working!! But Nikki has become a success story how wonderful!  What a load of crap.

  • I hope you gave the old boy a good swift kick in his dirty,grimy nutsack!

  • mikejones91

    What does that have to do with trusting the MAN himself? I can’t help his family get in this country, what reason does he have to put on a charade with me? 

  • mikejones91

    I didn’t say he was good for white America, I said he was good to me, individually. I’m naive? Says the Christian. Your right, his god is NOT mine, and neither is yours. Religion is a crutch for the weak, and justification for the violent. “Religion is regarded by the common man as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers, very useful.”

  • mikejones91

    That is what I ask liberal/anti whites on the subject. I ask, “is being a minority hard?” “Will the majority inevitably oppress the minority?” They usually say yes. Which is when I ask, “THEN WHY THE F*** WOULD YOU WANT (AS A WHITE MAN/WOMAN) TO BE A MINORITY!!!!!!!!!!” 

  • mikejones91

    I was thinking about a computer science major….

    • The__Bobster

      Then don’t go to work at a company where a Punjab just got promoted to a position of authority. It will be full of curry-eaters in no time flat and you’ll be marginalized and then let go.

      • mikejones91

        Yeah…I am planning to go to WVU which is 90% so that’s good. I was really surprised at that as well. Ill just to move a white city to find work. Although, the white population in Philly seems to be growing, so who knows. Seattle seems nice. So does Lexington . 

      • mikejones91

        Do you live near Limerick, Bob? I understand if you don’t want to say lol.

  • The__Bobster

    The time for “understanding” other cultures is over. There’s no reason why we should have to do that in our own country. It’s time for the other cultures to leave.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    my name be  COOEY i be a felon…. BUT!!  you need to give me jab. i say PACIFICALLY i BE AXE you why AL SHARPTONS NOT GIVED ME MY REPERSATIONS. IT RACIST

  • John Maddox

    ‘ The implication being that if the hindus and sihks all voted Republican
    than hindu-sihk legal immigration would be a wonderfull (sic) thing ‘

    No sir not in a million years. I am still opposed to their coming into this country in such great numbers. Not only that but a republican President or for that matter any Republican elected official can still sell you out.

    ‘ You have no idea how much economic terror people such as you have
    inflicted upon  thousands of Native Born White American families across
    America.’

    I have been unemployed and or under employed for at least five years. In fact I live in a motel apartment that is owned by one of those  nice Hindus. It is taking every thing that my wife and I can earn to take care of three boys and get by. The only white guy who works here is some old guy that spends only about an hour a day emptying trash. The front desk staff and housekeepers are all recent Mexican immigrants. This guy owns three other motels and recently imported one of his uncles from India to work as a general manager.You can’t hardly find a job in this town for all the immigrants. I know because several jobs that I have applied to have hired bilingual. And several manufacturing firms hold jobs open for social worker referred Africans and Micronesians. The motel is now over run with the employees of a tree service company working for a local utility. It looks like a gypsy camp because almost ninety percent of the employees are Mexican and can barely speak English.  I have been equally victimized by some of those people you mentioned above as free market libertarians who own most of the rental property and much of that retail space that ends up in the hands of these third worlders. But I support their right to own and sell that property.

    Incidentally its not just the Hindu immigration that bothers me. Mexicans take the jobs that I could be working at until something better comes along. Others get special consideration in hiring. Hindus buy up everything in sight that can earn them a buck with Government assistance. Let me put it to you this way, over the last few years with the same consideration
    that some of these people get I’d have been able to start that little farm and specialty food business I’ve been dreaming about.

    If you haven’t noticed yet money buys both freedom and full participation in American society no matter who brings it to the table or where it came from. It used to not be that way.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Is that why most science in history came out of a very Christian Europe? Hinduism must have been developed by the ancient aryans of India, because it seems to me that a greater percentage of white Christians have developed science than brown skinned Hindus. My point is that if Hinduism is scientific it is obviously not living up to it’s potential these days considering who it is who follows it mostly.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Be careful how you phrase things. Most Indians and Southeast Asians are by no means bright. Just look at their countries.

  • Thats funny, because most of India’s neighbors actually hold this stereotype that Indian are the smartest lot along with the Chinese. I was in Singapore, staying at one of the most expensive 5 star hotels in the Island – the Imperial Palace, from where you can get some of the best view of Jurong’s Keppel Harbor with the majestic Singapore skyline. And you guessed right, this hotel was owned by an Indian. Indian Singaporeans beat all other ethnicities including the Han Chinese majority in terms of wealth and socio-economic status according to the latest census.

    In 2005, both the average and median monthly income for Indian Residents (S$3,660 and $2,480 respectively) exceeded those for all Residents (S$3,500 and S$2,410 respectively). In the same year, 25% of Indian Residents had a university degree as their highest qualification attained. In contrast the national average was only 17%.

    As for the IQ nonsense, it can be debunked: Indians who did reach the ‘A’ level and sat for this exam marginally outperformed the national average. 93% of Indians received 2 ‘A’ and 2 ‘AO’ level passes, compared with 92.6% among Chinese students, and 92.3% nationally

    Table 35: Percentage of P1 Cohort Admitted to Post-Secondary Education
    Institutions by Ethnic Group. Education Statistics Digest. Ministry of Education
    (Singapore).

    http://web.archive.org/web/20070919204403/http://www.singstat.gov.sg/pubn/popn/ghsr1/indicators.pdf

    Ironically, if you were to bother reading a history book, you would realize that Singapore was first civilized by not the Han Chinese but the Tamil Indians ( Chola dynasty). The very word “Singapore” is derived from the Tamil  noun “Singam-Pur” which means “Lion-town” and the symbol of the Lion fountain is an example.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Singapore

  • redfeathers

    We sure are drowning in NYC!  I’ve read that Queens is the most “diverse” county in the US.  My part of Queens is now majority Chinese/Korean.  It’s very sad.

  • 1. Guest has actually replied on the wrong thread. Just shows the intelligence of this individual, most likely, a Han Chinese troll pretending to be white!

    2. To answer the question: No, I’m not Indian. I’m actually a Jewish American Nyc native currently pursuing my medical career in London, UK. I have many Indian and Asian friends, I’m actually dating an handsome Indian man. I been around the world and am qualified to make astute comments on the issue.

    3. The references and stats I quoted are 100% authentic and reliable from Singapore’s population census data, the nonsense you quoted has no bearing on the issue. Far from it, you failed to provide a single link or evidence to back up your unlettered views. And by the way, the Indians are so much better than the Chinese. A lot smarter, more creative, wealthier and more fun to be around. The Chinese on the other hand are boring, quiet, racist, unimaginative and not really very smart. They copy ideas from other races and are only good at memorising a text book. The cannot lead, they are highly trained robots only meant to take orders. In fact, the Chinese followed an Indian religion – Buddhism, the Chinese developed a martial art which first originated in India ( Kung Fu) etc. The last time I checked, the Indians are not following anything from China! I have never seen Taoism, Confuscism, Tai Chi, Chi Gong or exotic authentic Chinese cuisine like snake, rat, dove, human baby cadaver meat gaining popularity in India (a country where people are happy with their clean vegetarian diet!)

    http://globalmartialarts.blogspot.com/2006/03/kung-fu-and-karate-originated-in-india.html

    4. Singapore was first settled b Tamil Indians & later the Malays far before the Han Chinese took over. Perhaps you need to get better acquainted with a history book and not the communist brainwashing from your uncles. The very word Singapore is Tamil for Lion-Town.

    5. Despite your silly rants about Indians, I suspect envy, the Indians have been more successful than the Han Chinese all over the western world except Australia and perhaps Canada. In the US, UK and Europe, Indians are amongst the wealthiest, best educated groups who now dominate the Jewellery, Diamond, Steel and Motel/ Hotel businesses. There are far more Asian Indian CEO’s, venture capitalists, creative artists, scientists, designers and academic deans of Ivy league schools more than any other Asian group. Despite a lower national IQ, there are a section of Indians who are extremely smart and in the end creativity with a sense of exploration wins! An Indian capitalist (Ratan Tata) recently purchased the British automobile giant: Jaguar-Range Rover/ Land Rrover & have done very well in the markets,  another Indian owns one of Britain’s biggest brewery ( Lord Karan Bilimoria) and the largest Steel corporation in the world ( LN Mittal). The wealthiest real estate in London is owned by an Indian (The Taj at Kensington Place, London). The wealthiest Briton alive today is Indian (Mittal)! Even in San Francisco’s silicon valley, after the Americans, it is the Indians who have founded most of the corporations and companies surpassing all other immigrant groups from western Europe and Asia. Get a clue!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18250315

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_American

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_Americans

    http://www.brewersguardian.com/brewing-features/marketing/878.html

     

  • There are so many things wrong with your post, I don’t even know where to begin.

    Anyway, let me begin by first saying that what you said is at best only partially true. Yes, Singapore and HK is filled with the lowest ebb of the Indian diaspora. However, having said that, allow me correct you on your erroneous  comments.

    To the best of my knowledge, the Chinese themselves have been unable to create a single 1st world nation. So how many nations have Han Chinese created that can be called 1st world” Answer: Zero! Granted Indians tend to keep their localities untidy, but the Chinese hoods better known as China towns in the western world are far worse, famous for crime, gangsters ( Triads), drug smuggling and stinking dirty streets lined with cheap sweat shops filled with illegals and boat people. hardly anything that would give any pleasure to a local white native inhabitant of these western nations. China itself is a 3rd world dump for cheap scab labor and sweatshops run by an inhuman communist autocratic govt. The truth be said, most Chinese despite all the media propaganda about the supposed “superpower of the future” would gladly kill to get out of China if they had the first chance. In fact, there are quite a few Chinese, yes Han Chinese who have migrated to neighboring India for better fortune. The city of Calcutta has it’s own China town! Jeez, I wonder why the so called “high IQ” people would migrate to a place they consider inferior to them? There are many Chinese international students studying in elite Indian universities, many overstaying their student visas in cities like Mumbai, Pune, Delhi, Bangalore, etc. My parents own a set of luxury hi end  condos where many international students from iran, Turkey, Lebanon, China, Israel, Eastern Europe, France, Greece, Cyprus, Africa and SE Asia reside. I wonder why that is the case? No Indian wants to even visit China leave alone settle there. To suggest so would be laughable!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatown,_Kolkata

    The last I checked there is NOT one such India town in China, Taiwan or HK.

    Secondly, HK developed because it was under the British. If not for the white British who ruled and built up HK, it would have been another fishing village beyond Kowloon! So again, the Chinese like you are trying to steal the credit of the British.
    That is pathetic! Shanghai would have been a better example actually, but no, you had to quote a British colony like HK.

    Singapore also owes it’s progress due to the Tamils. No doubt the Han Chinese form the majority today, but Singapore is more of a cosmopolitan multicultural socialist totalitarian state, hardly a good example!

    The wealthiest people in Asia are not Chinese, Koreans or even the Japanese. You guessed right…..the wealthiest Asians are from India. Mumbai has some of the most expensive real estate in the world. The richest Asian trillionaire is Mukesh Ambani who also owns the world’s most expensive trillion dollar skyscraper ultra modern 21st century home in downtown Mumbai. Some of the biggest industrialist families and Gold/ Diamond/ Steel/ Automobile and technology giants of the world come from India not China! All this blows your nonsensical points about the supposed “low IQ” of Indians. It takes a great deal of brainpower to become wealthy, the legal way!

    http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/business/ambani-tops-asias-richest-in-bloombergs-billionaire-list/502648

    http://angeliqueimwunderland.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/article-1360389-0d16c860000005dc-825_964x658.jpg

    http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6869/60142938.jpg

  • Also
    this will be my last post here on this forum. I can’t help but wonder where you
    make up such rhetorical nonsense about Indians being stupid and about their
    neighbors looking down on them from. Far from it, most Arabs and other Asians
    regard Indians as highly intelligent, professional and hard working. Even if
    there are negative stereotypes, it is related to the impression that Indians
    may be shrewd, love money and may cheat or may act cheap but definitely not
    stupid.

    Here are some trends and facts that will utterly smash your rather dim witted
    views expressed in your previous posts about Indian intelligence. First of all
    India unlike China is not a monolith, it is a land of paradox, a land of
    diversity ( Indo-Aryan, Dravidic, Mongoloid, Proto-Australoid, Greek, Persian,
    Mughal, Central Asian and Middle eastern)  and brilliance as well as ugliness in the most
    extreme form. Let us narrow it down to intelligence. Being highly diverse due
    to the admixtures of different races making India a  heterogeneous melting pot  as opposed to a more homogenous mono racial
    China, here is a more accurate estimation of India’s IQ today when studied in
    terms of region and caste:

     http://www.vdare.com/posts/indias-average-iq-in-2100

    And, talking about cerebral abilities, Indians have proven to be marvelous in the
    modern world. The world’s Chess grandmaster – a feat which requires a high
    cerebral caliber is a Tamil Indian Brahmin Viswanath Anand, not a Chinese, a SE
    Asian or even an Arab. Anand the reigning World Chess Grandmaster just beat Boris
    Gelfand of Israel to win the World Chess Championship Crown a few days back!

    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-05-31/news/31921800_1_world-chess-indian-grandmaster-grandmaster-viswanathan-anand

    Indian doctors are among the best in the world. India is home to some of the
    leading Cardiologists, Heart surgeons, Heart Hospitals, orthopedic surgeons and
    hi tech hospitals and medicities….attracting heaps of Chinese patients to India
    as well as many British, American and European medical tourists for a world
    class health service! You will NEVER hear of an Indian going to a Chinese
    doctor or anywhere on Chinese dominated east Asia for medical service.

    http://www.madrasmedicalmission.org/overview.html

    http://www.keyholesurgery.in

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/feb/01/health.india

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MncACGaJ79s

    The top CEOs, Global managers and Senior managing Chairs and Managers who
    successfully run some of the biggest multinational corporations in the United
    States and Europe today are Indians, not Chinese, Middle easterners or other
    Asians. Citibank, Citigroup, Adobe, Pepsi co, Cisco, TIBCO, Mastercard,
    American Express, Deutschebank, Orange telecom, Verizon, Motorola, HP,
    Cognizant technologies, Hartford Financial Service, Logix Group etc. are all
    Indians not Chinese or other Asians. In fact, I have a hard time remembering
    even ONE prominent Chinese CEO of a huge multinational corporation.  It takes a very high degree of mental caliber to
    run and develop such companies. The next successor to Warren Buffet is an
    Indian Business genius Ajit Jain. I have already provided the links in my
    previous post. Also unlike the Chinese you prefer to follow a trend and stick
    to memorizing and perfecting somebody else’s art, the Indians prefer to create
    their own companies and ideas. Thus Indians are more like trend setters while
    the East Asian may be good at perfecting an art or science but are poor at
    creating it! Thus Indians went on to start and pioneer their own corporations
    and concepts. Famous Indian scientists, technologists who started up their own
    corps which include International Capital Partners Inc, AppLabs (World’s #1
    Software Testing company), Bose – the world’s best speaker/ audio system
    company brand, Syntel, Sun Microsystems, etc.
    Even in music you have more trend setters who are of Indian vs Chinese
    ethnicity in the west. In music for example, there are more famous Indians who
    have been trend setting celebs such as one of the greatest Rock music legends
    like Freddie Mercury of Queen, Grammy Award winning Norah Jones, Noted
    Orchestra director and conductors like Zubin and Zarin Mehta of the NY and L.A
    Philharmonic orchestra. Except for Yo Yo Ma, I’ve never heard of any other
    Chinese American or Chinese British musician who has been a notable composer,
    performer or superstar of that caliber. And all this is just the tip of the ice
    berg!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury

  • Also this will be my last post here on this forum. I can’t help but wonder where you make up such rhetorical nonsense about Indians being stupid and about their
    neighbors looking down on them from. Far from it, most Arabs and other Asians regard Indians as highly intelligent, professional and hard working. Even if
    there are negative stereotypes, it is related to the impression that Indians may be shrewd, love money and may cheat or may act cheap but definitely not
    stupid.

    Here are some trends and facts that will utterly smash your rather dim witted views expressed in your previous posts about Indian intelligence. First of all
    India unlike China is not a monolith, it is a land of paradox, a land of diversity ( Indo-Aryan, Dravidic, Mongoloid, Proto-Australoid, Greek, Persian,
    Mughal, Central Asian and Middle eastern)  and brilliance as well as ugliness in the most extreme form. Let us narrow it down to intelligence. Being highly diverse due
    to the admixtures of different races making India a  heterogeneous melting pot  as opposed to a more homogenous mono racial China, here is a more accurate estimation of India’s IQ today when studied in
    terms of region and caste:

     http://www.vdare.com/posts/indias-average-iq-in-2100

    And, talking about cerebral abilities, Indians have proven to be marvelous in the modern world. The world’s Chess grandmaster – a feat which requires a high cerebral caliber is a Tamil Indian Brahmin Viswanath Anand, not a Chinese, a SE Asian or even an Arab. Anand the reigning World Chess Grandmaster just beat Boris Gelfand of Israel to win the World Chess Championship Crown a few days back!

    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-05-31/news/31921800_1_world-chess-indian-grandmaster-grandmaster-viswanathan-anand
    to be contd…

  • Indian doctors are among the best in the world. India is home to some of the leading Cardiologists, Heart surgeons, Heart Hospitals, orthopedic surgeons & hi tech hospitals/ medicitie attracting quite a few Chinese patients to India as well as an increasing number of British, American & European medical tourists for a world class health service! You will NEVER hear of an Indian going to a Chinese doctor or anywhere on Chinese dominated east Asia for medical service.

    http://www.madrasmedicalmissio

    http://www.keyholesurgery.in

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    The top CEOs, Global managers and Senior managing Chairs and Managers who successfully run some of the biggest multinational corporations in the United States & Europe today are Indians, not Chinese, Middle easterners or otherAsians. Citibank, Citigroup, Adobe, Pepsi co, Cisco, TIBCO, Mastercard, American Express, Deutschebank, Orange telecom, Verizon, Motorola, HP, Cognizant technologies, Hartford Financial Service, Logix Group etc. are all run by Indians not Chinese or other Asians. In fact, I have a hard time remembering even ONE prominent Chinese CEO of a huge multinational corporation. It takes a very high degree of mental caliber to run and develop such companies. The next successor to America’s richest man Warren Buffet is an Indian Business genius Ajit Jain. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303877604577380593015786140.htmlI have already provided the links in my previous post. Also unlike the Chinese you prefer to follow a trend and stickto memorizing and perfecting somebody else’s art, the Indians prefer to create their own companies and ideas. Thus Indians are more like trend setters while the East Asian ( except for the Japanese) may be good at perfecting an art or science but are poor at creating it! Thus Indians went on to start and pioneer their own corporations and concepts. Famous Indian scientists, technologists who started up their owncorps which include International Capital Partners Inc, AppLabs (World’s #1 Software Testing company), Bose – the world’s best speaker/ audio system company brand, Syntel, Sun Microsystems, etc.Even in music you have more trend setters who are of Indian vs Chinese ethnicity in the west. In music for example, there are more famous Indians who have been trend setting celebs such as one of the greatest Rock music legend Freddie Mercury of Queen, Grammy Award winning Norah Jones, Noted Orchestra director and conductors like Zubin and Zarin Mehta of the NY and L.A Philharmonic orchestra. Except for Yo Yo Ma, I’ve never heard of any other Chinese American or Chinese British musician who has been a notable composer,performer or superstar of that caliber. And all this is just the tip of the ice berg!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F

  • MartelC

    Some indians — in small numbers, highly educated,  made a ‘positive’ impression on americans – they were generally polite, not confrontational, and appreciative of being here. 

    However, now that their numbers have grown they are getting aggressive- for example, in california an indian group, connected with the ultra nationalist party in India – got california text books re-written to be vehemently anti-British and pro Brahamin – and here’s the irony – stupid white liberals soaked all this up and took it at face value, while in india, for example many of the lower castes would be outraged at the ‘history’ now contained in california history books.

     

  • KenelmDigby

    It’s obvious.
    Although Indians are not too keen on blacks, they are well aware (to the point of obsession), with racial dynamics and their place in the great racial scheme of things.
    They are fully aware that the White man was once the world’s dominanting power (virttually inventing the modern World) and the inferiority complex that gives them. So in this context they idebtify as ‘people of color’ and in a very direct and instinctive way support another ‘man of color’ against the White man, notwithstanding the fact that the White man was foolish enough to let them into his country.

  • Being in a business which has made me travel all across the world especially the middle east and the Asia-Pacific, I have had first hand encounters with Indians both in India and those overseas.
    India unlike China is not a monolith, it is a highly diverse land, a paradox where you will find the best and the worst. And Angelina is right! Indians are a lot more creative than the east Asians. The advantage India has over China, despite much of her problems, is the fact thatthe Indians can actually think outside the box. The North East Asians may score high on a test, but in the end of the day in the long run, they won’t get far without borowing somebody else’s idea. Many Chinese concepts were historically borrowed from neighboring India. To simplify it, whilst some Indians can be trend setters and innovators, the Chinese with all their superior discipline and efficiency will always end up as trend-followers! That explains why the Indian diaspora has been more successful than other Asian groups in terms of wealth, professional status and academics!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXHoSfUjfEE

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303877604577380593015786140.html

    I believe you tend to falter in your views regarding Indians. To be fair, I agree with the fact that they can be very clannish, shrewd and practically worship money. But if anything, they are definately not stupid like you claim. Also, I don’t know how you can state this, but the general impression about Indians both in the middle east and all accross Asia is that they are highly intelligent, cheap and skilled. If you were to go to any top hospital in the middle east or the world for that matter, many leading surgeons and specialists are Indians. The leading Cardio-Vascular Clinical and research center & the  Orthopedic Multi speciality medicity in Asia are located in Chennai, India. Even in top American hospitals, the leading heart surgeons, endocrinologists, neurologists and other medical specialists are Indian. So much so that the common stereotype for Indians in the persian gulf, east Asia and Australia is the “nerdy Indian doctor or engineer with a funny accent”! The best medical centers in Asia are in India!

    http://www.mtqua.org/providers/top-10-worlds-best-hospitals-for-medical-tourists-2010/

    Secondly, contrary to what you claim, most of the Indian diaspora are incredibly wealthy. In the UAE ( Dubai) for example, they control the stock markets, gold-diamond trade, business centres and textile/ electronic dealerships, followed by the Iranians. In the UK, Europe and South Africa, it is the same story.
    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/indians-sweep-antwerp-diamond-centre-polls/398673/

    Are Indians annoying & undesirable in large numbers? yes! Are Indians cheap & miserly who love to save every dime and nickel despite being the wealthiest ethnic community in the US? yes! Should there be a limitation in the number of immigrants from India and Asia? yes! But are Indians mentally incompetent compared to whites and other immigrant groups? Definately NOT!