U-Turn on 1st Amendment in Michiganistan

Bob Unruh, World Net Daily, April 5, 2012

A federal judge has determined that Christians may, in fact, preach the Bible where Muslims can hear, in a ruling today that slammed a plan by the city of Dearborn that would have required a minister to give up his rights in order to speak.

U.S. District Judge Denise Page Hood today ruled that the city’s requirement for a minister to sign a “Hold Harmless” agreement before he would be allowed to speak on public property is a clear violation of the U.S. Constitution’s guarantees of free speech and free assembly.

She quoted from the city’s required “release” that it was demanding Pastor Terry Jones sign before being allowed to speak on public property near the nation’s largest Islamic mosque, which is found in Dearborn.

That would have required that Jones “RELEASE AND FOREVER DISCHARGE the city of Dearborn … and its officers, employees, and agents, from any and all claims, liabilities, or lawsuits, including legal costs and reasonable attorney fees, resulting from their activities on City of Dearborn property.”

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The city previously has been cited at fault in a number of conflicts between Christians who want to minister to Muslims and local Muslim groups who want to prevent that message.

In fact, a federal judge recently refused to dismiss a complaint against the city brought by four Christian missionaries arrested at a 2010 Muslim festival. The city earlier was ordered to pay some $100,000 for the arrest a year earlier of a Christian missionary at that same festival.

Today, the judge granted a motion from the Thomas More Law Center for an emergency temporary restraining order so that Jones will be allowed to speak in front of the mosque on Saturday.

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Jones and his Stand Up America Now organization applied several weeks ago for a special-events permit to allow Jones to speak Saturday in front of the largest mosque in North America, in Dearborn.

City officials then demanded that Jones essentially surrender all of his legal rights to do so.

The agreement warned participants that “these risks could result in damage to property, personal, and/or bodily injury or death, including injuries or death to the individual participants.”

Notably, the agreement does not have any requirement that the protected actions be reasonable or even legal. Consequently, the waiver could be used as a defense even if police and other authorities further abuse or violate the rights of the Christians.

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  • That would have required that Jones “RELEASE AND FOREVER DISCHARGE the
    city of Dearborn … and its officers, employees, and agents, from any and
    all claims, liabilities, or lawsuits, including legal costs and
    reasonable attorney fees, resulting from their activities on City of
    Dearborn property.”

    This sounds like an exculpatory clause, which makes contracts invalid.

  • “City officials then demanded that Jones essentially surrender all of his legal rights to do so.
    The agreement warned participants that “these risks could result in damage to property, personal, and/or bodily injury or death, including injuries or death to the individual participants.”

    In other words, the city is full aware that Muslims have a propensity to lash out, injuring or killing those who express alternative beliefs to that of their beloved Allah. The insanity continues…..

  • No

    I respect Pastor Jones.  I know a lot of WNs dislike Christianity and (rightly) blame it for many of the problems we face today.  But I see a huge difference between true Christianity and the perverted, feel good, wishy-washy, multi-cult, homosexual-loving, Israel-tolerating nonsense being peddled as “Christianity” today.

    There is NO difference between the perversion of Hollywood, public education, the media and white culture in general . . . and the perversion of Christianity.  Christianity is simply an INSTITUTION . . . it can serve whites . . . or hurt whites . . . depending on how it’s used.

    For example, we know Christians were responsible for the expulsion of jews from Europe, the 700-year was against Muslims, the Crusades and that many supported the Nazi and Fascist parties.

    But what many people forget (or conveniently ignore) is the role of Christians in support of slavery and the South.   Southern ministers defended slavery and the supremacy of the white man over the black.  Many owned slaves.

    The Methodist Church split over the issue of slavery with Southern Methodists forming their own “church.”  Many ministers fought in the Civil War – on both sides.  There were many revivals in the Army of Northern Virginia and thousands of soldiers converted to Christianity.  Almost every Confederate general was known for his religious beliefs.

    So I think it’s good to see Christian ministers take a leadership role.  We need more like Pastor Jones who are willing to carry a cross in one hand and a sword in the other.

  • joewest666

    Hey you dirty pedophile worshipers..

    Welcome to America.  Home of the whopper!

  • anarchyst

    “Islam” is NOT a religion,but a political system.  That being said, it the First Amendment to the Constitution does not apply . . . protections are invalid.
    ALL adherents to islam should be required to register with the U.S. State Department as “agents of a foreign government”.  Let’s not forget all of the dual-nationality israeli zionists that are infecting MY government whose allegiance tilts towards israel, to the detriment of U. S. “foreign policy”.  Such organizations as ACLU, ADL, AIPAC, $PLC, CAIR and other subversive groups should also be required to register as “agents of a foreign government” and should be closely monitored.

  • anarchyst

    Islam is NOT a religion, but a political system that permeates ALL of its adherent’s lives.  As such, it should not be aforded any constitutional First Amendment protections.  The Constitution is being used by muslims to weaken our form of government along with those “fellow travelers” that make excuses for aberrant muslim behavior.  I would suggest that those who want to follow the tenets os islam move to the islamic country of their choice.
    Islam has no place in American (or western) societies.
    ALL foreign-run organizations should be required to register with the U S State Department as “agents of a foreign government”.  This includes ADL, $PLC, AIPAC, CAIR and other such foreign-influenced organizations. 

  • anarchyst

    Dearborn Michigan (Dearbornistan) has been transform into a hotbed of islamic redicalism.  A number of years ago, Christians (who were exercising their constitutional right of free speech) were summarily arrested and charged for “inciting violence” for merely passing out literature on a public street in Dearbornistan Michigan.  After a lengthy judicial battle, the Christians ultimately prevailed.
    By the way, the mayor, police chief and other city officials are all muslims m m m

  • It’s shocking that it took this long to conclude the obvious: That their civil rights were violated. This incident should serve as a warning of what happens when Muslims become too numerous. I would point out, however, that Christians have also been responsible for violating the rights of others recently in this country. The infamous “blue laws” come to mind. Religious Jews also deprive others of their liberties when they get too much power.

    http://www.jewamongyou.wordpress.com

  • Southern__Hoosier

    Wow! Christians have rights? What a novel  idea. Judge Hood was nominated by President Bill Clinton. Now that is even more amazing.

  • TeutonicKnight67

    I am always puzzled by the AmRenners who hate their own religious heritage. They seem to forget that the Christian faith (in ALL its denominations) has been under steady Communist/Multicultural assault for well over 100 years. As a post Vatican II Roman Catholic I know that I have been cheated of the true faith by the so-called “reforms” of the 1960’s that led to multi-culti gobbledygook and “social justice” . True Catholicism/Christianity has never changed. It is our communistic, emasculated integrationist society that has abandoned its core principles and led to the sorry state of affairs that we have today.

  • Impertinent

    “The agreement warned participants that “these risks could result in damage to property, personal, and/or bodily injury or death, including injuries or death to the individual participants.”

    Once more confirming that Muslims are mostly murdering savages that can’t control themselves, are a scourge on America, do not appreciate nor honor the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…except when it suits them to use it to sue us…their inability to assimilate, become true Americans ( their Shira law forbids it ).  Yet we allow these anti American, Christian and jew hating animals to take over an entire city. It’s almost as if during WW2 Germans were allowed to built a fortress in an American city and claim that “Nazism” was a religion so it couldn’t be touched.

    Keep packing Rev. Jones…you’re in a war zone just the same as if you were in Iraq….savages all around.

  • This won’t last for long.  They’ll find some way around this just like they’ve found their way around other Laws and Policies.

    Take HamTrack, MI for example.  Americans are expected to obey the Noise Ordinance and are fined when they don’t but guess who was given the “right” to be excluded from that Law?

    Grandmothers and little Children are stripped searched at Airports (because it’s the “law”) but I’ve yet to see ANY muslim be stripped searched.

    The Treasury Department was schooled in sharia finance but “We” don’t practice sharia.  Or, should I say, Once Upon a Time in America, “We” didn’t practice sharia…

    Teachers don’t get to take Three Week Long Vacations during the School Year but a muslim can and if you don’t let them, The Justice Department will sue you on the muslim’s behalf.

    You Pay Taxes for Space Exploration but NASA’s job is to make sure the muslims “feel good about themselves and their accomplishments”.

    I could clearly go on and on here so to make it short, don’t bet on this lasting for long.  I’m betting, they’ll find their way around this before this Decade is up.