We’re Reaping the Harvest We’ve Sown

Press Release by Milwaukee Aldermen Bob Donovan and Joe Dudzik, Aug. 5, 2011

Aldermen Bob Donovan and Joe Dudzik of Milwaukee have released the following statement about the violence at the Wisconsin State Fair:

As elected officials, we are shocked and concerned about the senseless violence displayed by the large mob outside State Fair Park last night. On behalf of our city, we apologize to the victims and good patrons who endured or witnessed such horrific behavior.

Sadly, what transpired near State Fair Park last night is only the most recent mob riot spawned by a culture of violence that has been brewing in Milwaukee for some time.

And let’s face it, it also has much to do with a deteriorating African American culture in our city.

Are large groups of Hispanics or Hmong going out in large mobs and viciously attacking whites?

No.

We are reaping the harvest that we’ve sown.

How so?

There are repercussions for the staggering illegitimacy rate in our African American community.

There are repercussions for having little to no positive male involvement in the lives of African American children.

There are repercussions for single-parent homes where children aren’t properly supervised, and where they aren’t held responsible for their actions.

There are repercussions for a staggering, decades-long near 50% unemployment rate for African American males in our city.

There are repercussions for having a failing public school system, and an outdated juvenile justice system.

There are repercussions for having one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the U.S., and for having kids raising kids.

The community was shocked when the violent mob of African American youths attacked white people in Kilbourn Reservoir Park on July 3. Then, a few eyebrows were raised at the F-bombs and shocking disregard and disrespect for Milwaukee police officers shown by a large and unruly group of African Americans at N. Richards St. and W. North Ave. last Saturday night.

And now this horrific mob violence near State Fair Park.

But for those who live in some city neighborhoods, this violence has been like a steady rain for far too many years now. And the reality is this summer it seems we have five or six shootings each and every weekend!

Unfortunately, this behavior is now all too common in some parts of the Milwaukee community.

Our hearts go out to the older generation of African Americans in this city who remember when their community had one of the HIGHEST marriage rates in the city. Sadly, many of these same residents are now scared of their own children and grandchildren.

Although we hope our law enforcement agencies are able to bring some of the thugs who were involved in these attacks to justice, no amount of millions of dollars in government spending or resources is going to truly address this problem.

We can no longer wish this violence would just go away, and we cannot ignore it; we must see it for what it truly is.

We cannot begin to address the underlying causes of the violence without change. We believe that change must come from within the African American community, where new seeds must be sown.

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Alermen Donovan (left) and Dudzik

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  • SF Paul

    These men better wear body armor, have bodyguards and carry guns. The blacks will surely be after them for their “racist” remarks. These white men see it for what it truly is.

  • NBJ

    Excuse me, but we’re reaping the harvest that WHO has sown? These repercussions they talk about STILL sounds like they are somehow whiteys fault. Unbelieveable they continue to ignore the obvious. Let me just add a few more repercussions to the list.

    There are repercussions for:

    The decades long liberal aganda that teach white children their ancestors were evil and they should be ashamed, thus giving black children a reason to hate them.

    Constantly bowing down and apologizing to blacks for the silliest slight.

    Constantly inflating the black male ego.

    Making it impossible for a white person to speak the truth about race/black violence without severe repercussions.

    Constantly calling white people RACISTS!, again for the silliest of reasons, causing them to walk on eggshells around blacks.

    TV shows, ads, and any other media outlets constantly portraying the black guy as the smart, strong ,cool one beside the goofy, uncool, weak white guy.

    Constantly making excuses for blacks and NEVER admitting the truth about ANYTHING where they are concerned.

    And please guys, do you really think they WANT to change anything? Just look at all they have been given and they are going BACKWARD! But, you’re right about one thing at least. NO amount of money will fix this.

  • Usedtoworkinaphoneroom

    “no amount of millions of dollars in government spending or resources is going to truly address this problem”.

    No millions of dollars in compensation for white victims of crime, it would certainly help these victims? That would be quite a change if this were the response. It would be harder to imagine a bigger change. All these two men do is call for more care and concern for people of color, they just choose a different approach to get there. If the white victims of crime aren’t the priority in this case, are they really calling for change or for more of the same? Something tells me this problem wont be solved until this becomes s priority.

  • Anonymous

    These are bold and courageous men and I commend them for it. And unfortunately in this deluded political climate, apology statement in 3,2,1….

  • Anonymous

    Question:

    If the grandparents were so responsible and just, how did they let it deteriorate to such an extent that it has?

    Blacks used to be far less violent, but so did whites 50 years ago too. The gap has remained the same, the only difference is that all groups today at far more violent than in the 50s.

  • Flaxen-headed Strumpet

    “We cannot begin to address the underlying causes of the violence without change. We believe that change must come from within the African American community, where new seeds must be sown.”

    They left out the part about the seeds being top of the line USDA gourmet grade paid for by Whitey and of some crop that won’t even grow in a Milwaukee ‘hood. (Vanilla Beans??)

  • olewhitelady

    At least these men have made it plain that blacks are the attackers. They have, of course, added the same silly, threadbare arguments that only the very young and inexperienced could possibly believe. Public officials still believe they have to deflect accusations of racism, and so they repeat by rote the phrases that everyone expects. When people make clear that they want straight talk about race and elect race-realists, then these nonsense-spouting pols will sing a different tune.

  • Anonymous

    We cannot begin to address the underlying causes of the violence without change. We believe that change must come from within the African American community, where new seeds must be sown.

    And those seeds should be sown in Africa. Or just possibly Haiti, Jamaica, or other places where Africans are, for all intents and purposes, the only people living there. If payments are needed to induce the recipient countries to accept these seed sowers, by all means, pay for it.

    The problem will not go away as long as the problem makers are here.

  • Anonymous

    Our hearts go out to the older generation of African Americans in this city who remember when their community had one of the HIGHEST marriage rates in the city. Sadly, many of these same residents are now scared of their own children and grandchildren.

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    Why doesn’t your heart go out to the WHITE victims? Oh no, just more “insight” from you two fellows telling US that somehow we are still to blame for black failures.

    The so called older generation of blacks are responsible for bringing up their own kids, who in turn, had these black grandkids who are out of control. Now that they are older and more feeble you make more excuses for them. Blacks have NEVER had the moral fortitude that you are eluding to. It all goes back to RACE, something that people like you try to ignore. We cannot change what has been inbred from the beginning of time.

    Btw, I do not buy into your “facts” that the older blacks don’t feel the same way about Whites as do their grandkids and that they had a very high marriage rate. Even if married, black men and women cheated every chance they got, not to mention incest was rampant. Just ask Oprah and Tyler Perry.

    Most of us know that blacks back then were always a problem within their own communities, which segregation (thank God) kept us from hearing about and living among. The slaves were just as bad.

    Quit trying to romanticize of how the blacks “used” to be.

  • Great White Observer

    This is a start, but they quickly go to the weasel use of the term failing public school system and justice system. One question Aldermen who the hell makes these system’s fail? A good rule of thumb in this day and age is to avoid anything with the word PUBLIC before it, such as park, pool, beach, transit, housing, and school. Just one exception Public Library. I have a feeling that it won’t be but a few day’s until they start expalining, clarifing, and finally saying I really didn’t mean what I said and if anybody is offended I am sorry.

  • Jake

    The Great Society was a set of domestic programs suggested or enacted in the United States on the initiative of President Lyndon B. Johnson. Two main goals of the Great Society social reforms were the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period. The Great Society in scope and sweep resembled the New Deal domestic agenda of Franklin D. Roosevelt, but differed sharply in types of programs enacted.

    8 Trillion Dollars have been spent on “Great Society” programs.

  • Maxx

    Everyday there is more and more of it.

    Everyday they (blacks) become bolder and bolder.

    Everyday they increase the violence they impose upon innocent White People.

    They are at war with us, in any other country they would be called guerrillas and the USA would be sending in troops to defend them.

    These groups are too much for most local police departments to control and are more of a military matter than just a police matter. I’d say when some of these black and hispanic GANGS have over 2000 members they are a war group against America.

  • jack in chicago

    Very well said. The language is honest, but also kind and appeals to older generations of decent Black Americans. This is a good way to go.

  • Michael C. Scott

    I’m terribly sorry, but this is one harvest I have not “sown”.

    I am not responsible for black unemployment.

    I am not responsible for a “failing public school system”.

    I am not responsible for black out-of-wedlock pregnancies.

    I am not responsible for black illiteracy.

    I am not responsible for an “outdated” juvenile justice system.

    The reason I am responsible for absolutely none of these things – not one – is because I not only have no control over any of them, but I have been told with a consistency approaching 100% for my entire adult life that my opinion on these subjects is not wanted.

    I would like to ask these dingbats who’s sole concession to honesty on this incident was to identify the violent attackers, if “we” are reaping the harvest “we” have sown, then who in blue blazes is the “we” in this story?

  • The Bobster

    A good rule of thumb in this day and age is to avoid anything with the word PUBLIC before it, such as park, pool, beach, transit, housing, and school. Just one exception Public Library. I have a feeling that it won’t be but a few day’s until they start expalining, clarifing, and finally saying I really didn’t mean what I said and if anybody is offended I am sorry.

    _____________

    The “liberries” are NOT an exception. They’re full of blacks who use “da puters” to look at MySpace, Facebook and black-on-White porn. It follows that libraries aren’t quiet anymore and the librarians are afraid to enforce the rules for fear of violence or being called racist.

  • (AWG) Average White Guy

    We’re reaping the harvest of refusing to acknowledge that blacks are more genetically prone to crime and violence that Whites, Hispanics and Asians.

    The rest is politically-correct nonsense (polite term).

  • Frank

    Have to give these men credit for guts. Wonder how long they will be in office. Seems like the city had incidents before the fair that should have alerted them that the fair would be a problem. Could have had N.G. or more police protection. But thaat would have been “racist.”

  • policedogtrainer

    These attacks are happening almost every day and with no precipitating event. It seems they occur more often at large events but I am thinking that if they actually have an excuse like a police involved shooting or etc that we could see something on the order of the Rwandan genocide. only in Rwanda the blacks mostly only had knives not guns like they do here. I think the police chief here finally addressed the racial component only because 7 officers were injured. Americans attacking Americans this is truly a state of civil war. I am disappointed that i have not heard one major or even minor talk radio host addressed these attacks.

  • Jay Stein

    The roots of this have been going on for a long time in Milwaukee. I was reading a 1975 Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel article on Google News. They were talking about the epidemic of violence and misbehavior among students at all-black Washington High School. My parents went to that same school in the 1950s when it was all white and they describe it like Happy Days or Leave It To Beaver.

  • rockman

    The winds of change are blowing across Africa as Hillary said once in some African rest stop. We have spent a lot of money and effort changing the diapers of black folk and here we are. What happened was open war and nothing else. They got away with it basically and they will be back for more. If the police cant handle it then they need to close the fair as a public safety nuisance.

  • jdavis

    You can lay the blame for current culture and current mental illness on every politican who has served to destroy this nation over the past 60 years.

    We are a third world country moving towards great violence and sufferring and you can can thank every politican for this denegration of our nation and it’s peoples.

    Don’t let them shirk their role in this destruction; hold them responsible and make it known. Vote them out, change congress, and change your city officials, change or die. We will probably die in the process, but in the end possibly survive.

    What futures do your children have?

  • kgb

    The blacks have no incentive to behave like civilized people in our society just because some white men chastise them in print. Books are like kryptonite to them anyway, so why would they read this?

    Maybe we should do what the Israelis do with the Palestinians and just fence them in where they can do the least damage, and only to themselves.

  • MrGJG

    Things will never change until we confront (actually, until those in power confront) the fact that blacks are genetically predisposed to immorality and violence.

    Everything else is just window dressing.

  • Angry Bird

    Blacks used to be far less violent, but so did whites 50 years ago too. The gap has remained the same, the only difference is that all groups today at far more violent than in the 50s.

    Blacks are not less violent. They are able to carry out their natural violent tendencies because they are no longer held accountable for their actions and are able to blame white racism and oppression. The media and DOJ are 100% complicit in excusing black mob violence, especially violence against whites.

    The difference is that 50 years ago, black were held in check. At the first whiff of black violence, the authorities and local residents would have cracked down immediately, met the mob with guns drawn and let them know in no uncertain terms there would be hell to pay if white men and children were attacked in any way shape or form. Now, whites protecting their children and families against black mayhem are the ones being prosecuted.

    The only way to stop this is with force, deadly force if need be. The government and police authorities will not protect us , the DOJ will not prosecute black assaults on whites and the media will not report so it is up to us to put a stop to these vicious assaults against us. If not us, who will? These racial hate assaults and violence directed at whites will continue to escalate to the point of killing soon and MUST be ended NOW.

  • Doc Holliday

    The older generations of blacks have instilled an institutional hatred of the United States into the younger generations. It’s only going to get worse unless some attitudes change PDQ.

  • Question Diversity

    22 kgb:

    Ever hear of prisons?

    What are many American jails and prisons these days but repositories for low IQ high testosterone black men?

  • Robert Kremer

    Donovan and Dudzik are professional politicians. As such, one assumes anything coming from their vocal chords (or press releases) serves their political interests. Occasionally, what we hear or read from their likes is true, and I believe the instant case represents the unvarnished truth. I have a hard time believing black folks are by nature violent, as some here seem to suggest. (This is not to say society doesn’t have a huge, underclass, black problem.) I grew up in Milwaukee and went to school in Chicago in the late 50s. Friends and I never gave it a second thought to walk the streets of Chicago’s south side late at night going to various jazz clubs, rib joints, etc. The same goes for Milwaukee’s north side. But I wouldn’t go into any of those neighborhoods today without a full company of armed soldiers. For those thinking it’s the nature of black folks to be violent, why do you think it was safe to walk those streets in the 50s/60s, but not now? What accounts for that change? In short, I believe the primary cause is the abundance of welfare/social programs that flourished from the days of LBJ to present; programs that essentially shifted personal responsibility from the individual to government. (An argument can be made that the origins of the welfare state go back to FDR, but his programs, apart from Social Security, were short term.) And thus, to the extent that proposition is true, Donovan and Dudzic are right: we’re (white folks) reaping the whirlwind of our own making. It’s a matter of pure cause and effect, and has nothing to do with excusing uncivilized behavior.

  • Jay Santos

    At the first whiff of black violence, the authorities and local residents would have cracked down immediately, met the mob with guns drawn

    This is a key observation. In many or most cases the citizens themselves would have dealt with this. Why this kind of sensible response seems so unlikely today is an important question. I think we all know that the LEO apparatus and the media would be unrelenting in coming after us. You injure or kill one of these precious black teens and they are coming after you. At this point there is a lot of power aligned against the American citizen.

  • Anonymous

    This white libs never learn. Yesterday I saw a neighbor up the street giving her cute little blonde daughter a bare bottom spanking outside her car because the kid had used the ‘n’ word.

    She just pulled the kid’s panties down and whipped her behind

    several times.

    We live in a mixed neighborhood and the blacks let their kids run wild.

  • Lex Concord

    The law abiding “old” generation of blacks are from the WW II/Korean War era. They are in their 70′ and 80’s and no one listens to them. there are few of them left. The blacks who are grandparents now are baby boomers, and many if not most of them were radicalized in the 60’s and 70’s. Blacks younger than that have known nothing but the AA and race card tactics of Al and Jessie, and feel no love for America, they just feel it’s their playground, where whitey is obligated to finance their indolence. Sometimes whitey won’t let them do what comes natural to them, i.e. crime and puts them in prison. That gives them more reason to hate us as if “slavery” wasn’t suficient.

    This article is about as close to putting the blame where it belongs as we’re likely to hear from politicians or the MSM. But they know as well as we do that the black community won’t fix itself. The problem will only be resolved through a big nasty and almost inevitably violent clash in our society. If anyone else has thought of an alternate solution that doesn’t involve the capitulation and subjugation of white America, I’d like to hear it.

  • Anonymous

    Blacks have killed the goose that laid the golden egg. The vanishing remants of whites, and those who still have “white guilt”, are being attacked by flash mobs. You don’t attack people who give you free money and special privileges. In the very near future, there will be no money left. There will be no effective court system nor police force. There will be angry whites (and others) with guns who have no choice but to defend themselves. Sadly, only then will we have justice. Blacks had a golden oppurunity to excel and have special privledges to boot. They are choosing to live in the stone age.

  • Anonymous

    It’s getting more like Zimbabwe now as our black president(Obama=Mugabe) and black attorney general are now complicit when things like this. It’s open season on Whites. You know who’s side they are on. Remind all your liberal white friends about this for the next election.

  • Anonymous

    “We’re Reaping the Harvest We’ve Sown”

    What is that supposed to mean? All this racism directed against people of color, it’s coming back to haunt us? Liberal social programs are coming back to haunt us? Is it supposed to mean whatever the reader wants it to mean?

  • Anonymous

    @ 14: agreed. The culture of Irresponsibility/Blame Whitey is responsible, along with genetic predispositions towards low IQ & poor impulse control.

    @ 24: Organize your neighborhoods. Teach self-defense & firearms usage. Two-way radios or disposable cell-phones for communication. When the time comes, demolitions training will also be necessary to win the final offensive. Help out a retuning veteran, by paying him/her to train your neighborhood watch.

  • Anonymous

    Fast forward 20-30 years. Whites will be maybe 30% of the population. (You know we are less than 50% now, despite the government telling us otherwise, and despite the gov. telling us that turks, libyans, albanians, dominicans, mexicans, lebanese and columbians are ‘white’ like us.)

    Do any of you honestly believe these ‘wildings’ (sounds like a term for animal behavior) will diminish in number? Someone mentioned Rwanda. That IS the future for our grandkids. Circling the wagons will get a whole lot tougher when there are tens of millions of wilding-prone beasts.

    The two politicos in the article mention that hispanics and hmongs are not doing this. To that I say – yet. Wait ’til they feel they can get away with it.

  • Anonymous

    29 — Anonymous wrote at 5:26 AM on August 8

    @ 24: Organize your neighborhoods. Teach self-defense & firearms usage. Two-way radios or disposable cell-phones for communication. When the time comes, demolitions training will also be necessary to win the final offensive. Help out a retuning veteran, by paying him/her to train your neighborhood watch.

    ———————————————

    I hear this all the time. But what can you do when all your neighborhoods are filled with mexicans, blacks and asians? Recruit them???

    What few Whites are there are older and not racially aware and would “object” to any sort of talk. They would turn you in for hate speech and being a White “Supremacist”. I am not kidding.

  • Anonymous

    30 — Lex Concord wrote at 3:43 PM on August 7:

    The law abiding “old” generation of blacks are from the WW II/Korean War era. They are in their 70’ and 80’s and no one listens to them. there are few of them left.

    The ‘law abiding old generation of blacks’ is a myth.

    I grew up in Manhattan in the 1930’s and we had the same problem then as we have today. Black crime was a big problem. The north end of Central Parl was a no-go for white people. We also had an old version of flash mobs. Because of the lack of communication then, they were smaller in number but there raids of 15 or 20 blacks from Harlem or from West 99th street into the white areas. New York probably had it worse than other cities because we had the country’s worst mayor, Fiorella LaGuardia. One of his first edicts after being elected was to forbid police officers to carry nightsticks when assinged to black areas. Blacks have not changed.

  • Seek

    So blacks will have to solve the violence problem? Correction: Blacks ARE the violence problem.

  • jack in chicago

    People are panicking here and showing fear and despair for the future. That’s not the right way to go.

    The racial/crime situation in the US is much better now than in the early 1990s or in the late 60s, 70s when whole cities were rioting and looting and the government was putting out propaganda from the Kerner commission that it was all the fault of White society.

    Yes, there is bad Black crime in the Summer in places like Milwaukee and Chicago, Philly. But no one was killed in these attacks – if anything they are good educational experiences. Those of us who are battle tested, living in rough urban areas know how to handle, avoid such situations:

    Don’t get caught in the late blow off of a State fair, July 4th celebration. Never be around musical public events that include large numbers of Black teens, 20 something. Folks don’t riot, do flash mobs at classical music events. After a few bad Taste of Chicago blow offs, the police and city authorities learn how to handle Black mobs.

    Are you thinking of attending Indianapolis Black Expo? How about a big Black biker rally in Daytona Florida? Maybe you want your attractive 17 year old daughter to go watch porn movies with the Bloods or the Cripps?

    OK, don’t panic – just get street wise. There are lots of folks White, Hispanic, Asian and good Blacks who know how to handle Black teens, Black criminals. Learn to get to know these people, network, support them. Don’t panic, never show fear.

  • Question Diversity

    All this talk about the “older blacks” from way back when? Romantic hogwash. People have selective memories.

    The only reason older black men shy away from criminal behavior is because they are older. The gas tank is low, if you know what I mean.

    To the extent that the older black men of today might have behaved better as young black men than the young black men of today is that in the times when today’s older black men were young, a misstep led to the hard whack of a police baton across the skull, or worse consequences at the hands of a certain private organization. But in cities like Chicago and New York, which for the time were more liberal on race than most of the country, they were relatively “free” to be who they are, i.e. criminal, wild, rambunctious.

  • Angry Bird

    I have a hard time believing black folks are by nature violent, as some here seem to suggest.

    Blacks are violent wherever they settle, be it Canada, England, France or the US, all of which are experiencing ongoing black rioting and violence. Blacks are violent by nature in their homelands in Africa as they stand around laughing at brutal “necklacings” and slaughter whites in the most vile manner possible, gang rape, rape with broomsticks, torture – murders, hacking by panga, this includes tiny babies and helpless old people. I know of no White or Asian culture that does this.

    But I wouldn’t go into any of those neighborhoods today without a full company of armed soldiers. For those thinking it’s the nature of black folks to be violent, why do you think it was safe to walk those streets in the 50s/60s, but not now? What accounts for that change?

    As I wrote above, any black 50 years ago who deigned to riot in white areas, destroy white businesses or attack whites would have been met with an immediate armed response from local whites protecting their children and women. Whites stormed into black communities with a show of force. This is the ONLY thing blacks understand. The ONLY thing that stops violent blacks is a gun pointed directly at them with the explicit message burned into their pea brains that the wielder of the gun won’t hesitate to use it.

    But, this was during a time when the media reported black violence and the government protected white lives, when there was justice for whites, unlike now; in fact it is quite the opposite as white governments and media look the other way when whites are victims of black murder, rape, robbery or assault.

    There’s your difference between then and now. Do you understand how the US, Canadian, English and French governments feel toward their native white populations? That we whites have been emasculated and neutered and our jobs threatened keeps whites silent. It is not blacks we are afraid of, it is the force the government will use against us, as in the DOJ, to utterly destroy us.

    In short, I believe the primary cause is the abundance of welfare/social programs that flourished from the days of LBJ to present; programs that essentially shifted personal responsibility from the individual to government. (An argument can be made that the origins of the welfare state go back to FDR, but his programs, apart from Social Security, were short term.)

    We are still plagued with some of FDRs big government, socialist programs including the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), and the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA). Social Security is a Ponzi scheme doomed to failure. But discussion of those is for another time and is OT here.

    Although FDR’s policies prolonged the depression and he shoved us into an unnecessary internecine war, none of that, nor LBJs redistributionist “war on poverty” account for the fact that blacks are inherently violent unless kept in check.

    And thus, to the extent that proposition is true, Donovan and Dudzic are right: wei’re (white folks) reaping the whirlwind of our own making. It’s a matter of pure cause and effect, and has nothing to do with excusing uncivilized behavior.

    I resent, like others above, the use of the word “we.” It is the white-hating, hostile elite that run the government that has foisted this on us against our will and against our wishes. We whites are in the midst of a war that has been declared on us by the US government, and it will be a war to the death, it WILL BE either US or them.

    Blacks are merely a battering ram used by the government in their plan to genocide us. They are expendable, and their time will come, but as of now, their malfeasance is less important than eliminating us whites.

  • chocalateshake

    Blacks can’t solve this problem alone. WE need strong leaders(GOP) who will stand up to the liberals and black poverty pimps and end all of these welfare programs that encourages young single uneducated black females to reproduce. Welfare offices should be very few and very far in between instead of the every 2miles in distance it is now. The facility should be unbearable and uncomfortable, no heat in winter, nor ac in the summer, the facilities should be small with few seats(make them stand, this is the most they will stand in their whole life), hire as few case workers as possible. There should be no free parkingor no parking lot, move the bust stop 4 blocks away, don’t get rid of the snow around the place in winter.Make welfare as hard to get and unconfortable to get as possible.

    If this means people have less babies, then so be it. I’d rather be a smaller affluent population with nice areas like the asians than the current population full of disfuntional and chaotic people

  • Anonymous

    The flash mobs in this case stem from black racism. Until you stop using euphemisms like “culture of violence”, “failing public schools”, “unemployment”, etc. These attacks were racially motivated. Whites also face unemployment, but no official would say unemployment caused Peter to drop a brick on LeRoy’s head.

  • Anonymous

    “Our hearts go out to the older generation of African Americans in this city who remember when their community ….”

    Would these political officials ever utter the same sympathy towards whites who lost their neighborhoods.

  • Anonymous

    Poster 39 says

    OK, don’t panic – just get street wise. There are lots of folks White, Hispanic, Asian and good Blacks who know how to handle Black teens, Black criminals. Learn to get to know these people, network, support them. Don’t panic, never show fear.

    ——————————-

    Really? Where are these “good” folks? I sure don’t see them putting a dent in the nonwhite problem.

  • Anonymous

    The racial/crime situation in the US is much better now than in the early 1990s or in the late 60s, 70s when whole cities were rioting and looting and the government was putting out propaganda from the Kerner commission that it was all the fault of White society.

    Back in the 1960s, blacks could claim that they were at the short end of segregation, etc. Today, here is no such excuse. The entire civil rights program has been enacted, and much more. So why then the violence, the dysfunction, etc? How much of this is political, a form of urban guerrilla warfare?

  • ATBOTL

    “Donovan and Dudzik are professional politicians. As such, one assumes anything coming from their vocal chords (or press releases) serves their political interests. Occasionally, what we hear or read from their likes is true, and I believe the instant case represents the unvarnished truth. I have a hard time believing black folks are by nature violent, as some here seem to suggest. (This is not to say society doesn’t have a huge, underclass, black problem.) I grew up in Milwaukee and went to school in Chicago in the late 50s. Friends and I never gave it a second thought to walk the streets of Chicago’s south side late at night going to various jazz clubs, rib joints, etc. The same goes for Milwaukee’s north side. But I wouldn’t go into any of those neighborhoods today without a full company of armed soldiers. For those thinking it’s the nature of black folks to be violent, why do you think it was safe to walk those streets in the 50s/60s, but not now? What accounts for that change? In short, I believe the primary cause is the abundance of welfare/social programs that flourished from the days of LBJ to present; programs that essentially shifted personal responsibility from the individual to government. (An argument can be made that the origins of the welfare state go back to FDR, but his programs, apart from Social Security, were short term.) And thus, to the extent that proposition is true, Donovan and Dudzic are right: we’re (white folks) reaping the whirlwind of our own making. It’s a matter of pure cause and effect, and has nothing to do with excusing uncivilized behavior.”

    Blacks are violent in places like Haiti and the Congo where there is no welfare. You can look up statistics that show blacks have been vastly over represented in crime since they started coming to Northern cities, even as far back as the 19th Century, whatever your recollections are. You only have to read books like the Autobiography of Malcolm X, “Pimp,” “Man-child In The Promised Land,” “All God’s Children” and “The Promised Land”(which may have been reviewed in AR at one point if memory serves me right) to learn that many blacks were acting just like are today back in the 1940’s, 30’s, 20’s and earlier.

    This idea that welfare or liberalism spoils otherwise good blacks is supremely dangerous and not compatible with race realism or white nationalism.

    To the extent that blacks were somewhat better behaved before the 1960’s, it was due to fear of white retaliation.

  • An Honest Black

    The flash mob violence noted above is, in fact, directly correlated to the breakdown of the stable Black family over the last four decades. However, I believe a root cause of this seemingly intractable problem is the removal of manufacturing and other industrial jobs from the urban centers, beginning in the early 1970s. This resulted in many Black men, whose education ended at high school graduation if lucky, being unable to provide for their families.

    A job that enables a man to take care of his family with a modicum of comfort, allowing his wife to stay at home as a second family anchor (or the reverse, depending on the couple) is the bedrock of any successful society (along with religion). From that flows the discipline and character shaping that results in a well-adjusted child, who then becomes a productive adult.

    Blacks, first enslaved for hundreds of years, then almost completely marginalized by Jim Crow laws and attitudes (both in the North and South), were just being introduced to the opportunity for blue collar middle class jobs when those opportunities were yanked from them, starting in the 1970s, and they haven’t recovered. Those jobs were then sent to suburban areas, or down South, where certain Whites could more closely control access to such employment opportunities.

    The same thing is now happening to American Whites, whose jobs are being sent overseas in the millions. I fear my White brothers and sisters will devolve to express the same sort of pathologies we find in the American poor and working class Black communities. It is, of course, already happening.

    The flash mob idiots should be caught and imprisoned, if need be. But let us understand the underlying issues.

    We now return to the regular scheduled broadcast, consisting of the ongoing competition to see how many different ways we can say Blacks suck.

  • Al

    Honest Black, I’m getting tired of this 400 year old Black oppression line.

    Congress outlawed the importation of African Slaves in 1803, not long after US became a nation in 1776.

    We fought a very bloody, divisive civil war, not primarily over slavery, but as a result slavery ended. It would have anyway without the horrible caranage of the war. That was 150 years ago.

    The Jim Crow Laws were only enacted in the 1880s as a reaction to the military occupation of the Radical Republicans for a dozen years after the war ended in 1865.These laws were only extant in the states of the Old Confederacy, just a little over a fifth of the nation. There was private segregation in the north but that was solely individual choice and not a governmental law. There is all the moral difference in the world.

    Furthermore Blacks had a much higher degree of progress prior to the 1964 Civil Wrongs Act. Some Blacks like Sowell and Walter Williams have documented this as well as a a white liberal couple, the Thernstroms and the wife is still on the US Civil Rights Commission.

    So progress for Blacks did not begin in the 70s. Because of the collapse of the Keynesian paradigm through stagflation the 70s were bad for most people. US Government regulations priced US products out of the world market.

    Blacks sold other Blacks into slavery, first the Arabs from the 9th to the 14th century and then the Europeans for four centuries afterwards. There never should have been slavery but what can we do about it now ?

    What of the incredible Black crime, welfare and general sociopathology since WW2 ? Instead of blaming everything on the white man, why not take some responsibility ?

    Some of our ancestors in Europe were either enslaved or in serfdom for centuries too. Originally slavery was developed as an alternative to killing all the members of another tribe or group.

    Some of the white folks here tiresome but so is much of the talk

    in the Black community.

    Let’s see if we can work it.

    Thanks for writing.

  • Anonymous

    “The ‘law abiding old generation of blacks’ is a myth.”

    Very true. In the late 1950’s, in Omaha Nebraska black teens and young men often indulged in “Push Day” They would go downtown and push and shove Whites.

    Their parents had been brought to Omaha to work in the then flourishing stockyards. They were members of a very powerful and well paid union. Mostly they owned nice homes. But their children indulged in Push Day. Parents of those thugs would have been born in the 1930’s and 40’s.

    My uncle lived in Chicago. He made the great mistake of buying a home 2 blocks into Chicago from the Oak Park boundary. When the blacks ethnically cleansed his neighborhood in the early 1950’s he was beaten severely in his own front yard.

    During World War 2 Marines stationed at the Barracks in the Anacostia neighborhood were warned never to leave the base unless there were at least 2 of them and preferably more.

  • Ben

    Really?

    I wonder how these people would feel if they were assaulted, raped, etc.

    Maybe I can blame their ancestors and add insult to injury.

  • Anonymous

    Post 49 by Al says it all and very well.

    I was appalled to read Post 29 but white liberal women are the worst. Her daughter just received her multicultural education

    in the seat of learning.