What Eastern Europe Can Teach the West

John Morgan, American Renaissance, May 2, 2014

A report from Ukraine and Hungary

Before I begin, I want to make a disclaimer. I’ll be discussing a number of groups that I’ve had contact with, but I don’t want that to be seen as an unqualified endorsement of any of their programs or policies. I think that all of them are interesting, but I’m not here to act as a spokesman or promoter for any of them.

I’ll begin by describing two scenes that I witnessed in January of this year. The first was in Kiev, in the Ukraine, the night I first arrived, as I was approaching the Maidan, or Independence Square, in the center of the city. From far away, I could smell the smoke wafting from the many barrel fires used by those camped out on the Maidan for warmth and for cooking. As I got closer, I could hear the sounds from the speakers attached to the stage that had been set up by the revolutionaries. As I was to learn later, the revolutionary committee maintained a 24/7 schedule on the Maidan. Whether one ventured there at 4:00 in the afternoon or 4:00 in the morning, there was always something happening: either a speaker, a musical performance, a patriotic drama, or some such thing. This was true of the entire Maidan: It was just as bustling in the middle of the night as during the middle of the day. The protesters wanted to make sure that the government understood that their rage was not a passing phenomenon.

When I reached the square, I could see that it had been transformed into an enormous, self-sufficient city of tents and other makeshift structures. This miniature city-within-a-city extended for many blocks in both directions, to the barricades that had been hastily set up against the police the previous month and that were still being guarded by volunteers. Occupy Wall Street had nothing on these guys. Hundreds of activists had been living there for over a month, in the middle of winter, and would continue to do so for many weeks thereafter, knowing full well that the police might attack them at any moment and possibly even kill them. Some of them are still camped there as I speak. Flags and patriotic slogans festooned everything. There was no doubt in my mind, as I surveyed the scene, that change was inevitable.

The other image I want to convey is something I saw only a few days later, in Budapest, Hungary. I was invited to the Annual Congress of the nationalist party Jobbik, or the Movement for a Better Hungary, the only party in Hungary today that stands as a serious rival to the ruling Center-Right party, Fidesz. The Congress was held in an indoor sports arena on the western outskirts of the city.

When I arrived, the first startling fact was that, unlike most events of a similar nature that I’d attended in Western Europe or the U.S., there were no protesters. It came as a surprise to me that views considered “extreme” in the West are usually considered normal in the East. The second startling thing was the size of the audience. This wasn’t a hundred or so people, as is typical for nationalist-related events I attend. This was an entire arena that could seat thousands. In addition to the bleachers, the floor had been filled with chairs. Both were filled to capacity.

The day’s program consisted of speakers and musical acts, with many of the speakers and performers beginning their presentations with the cry of “Talpra, Magyar!” which was always echoed by the audience. This means, “Arise, Hungarians!” and are the opening words of the poem, “National Song,” that was written by the Hungarian poet Sandor Petofi for the 1848 revolution. The enthusiasm of the participants was palpable: They were motivated to save their people. And this is no marginal phenomenon. Three months later, in the national parliamentary elections, Jobbik went on to win over 20 percent of the vote and establish itself as the second-most powerful party in the nation.

My immediate reaction to the events both in Kiev and Budapest was the same: “Something like this could never happen in Western Europe or the United States.” But the main thing that these experiences taught me is that concern for the future of our people, which I was accustomed to seeing consigned to the margins of society, is no fringe subculture in Eastern Europe. There, nationalism—by which I mean genuine nationalism, and not what masquerades under that name in America today under the auspices of Fox News and such—is still very much a mainstream phenomenon.

What Is Happening in Ukraine

I don’t want to discuss the politics of the Ukrainian situation in great detail, since there has already been so much written and said about it. The one comment I’ll make is that, outside of Ukraine, it is always framed as a dispute over geopolitics: Russia or the EU. I can say only that, while that was certainly a catalyst, that was not the main issue for most of the people I talked to. For them, the Maidan movement was about getting rid of the Yanukovich regime, which was seen pretty much universally, as far as I could tell, as corrupt, anti-democratic, and self-serving. And certainly, the activists I talked with were more interested in ensuring the existence of an independent Ukraine as opposed to one that was merely a vassal of Washington, Brussels, or Moscow.

I was invited to speak to the Kiev revolutionary council by some friends in the nationalist party Svoboda, or “Freedom,” who were familiar with my work with Arktos. In the last election in 2012, Svoboda won more than 10 percent of the national vote, and is likely to do much better in the upcoming election, so, like Jobbik, it is more than a marginal phenomenon. Svoboda’s platform is one of anti-liberalism and anti-Communism, as well as opposition to immigration, and it calls for a return to spiritual and traditional values. (As a side note, I’ll mention that I was informed that the term “European values” is code for “traditional values” in Ukraine, which is understood to mean those values that prevailed before Communism and, later, liberal rule.)

My speech was held in the Kiev city council building, which is just off the Maidan. Members of Svoboda had stormed and occupied the building a month earlier, in early December, and it had been converted into a revolutionary headquarters. Different areas of the building had been assigned to the various political parties involved in the Maidan, and Svoboda itself occupied the main hall. Once the guards at the entrance let me in, I was greeted by the strong smell of a building in which many men were living, but which obviously hadn’t been cleaned for some time. I went there several times, both during the day and at night, and people were always busy at work on something related to the Maidan. For me, it was a unique, inspirational experience to be at the nerve center of a revolution in progress.

In the main hall, chairs had been set up auditorium style so that those volunteering on the Maidan could sit and rest during breaks. Films were projected on a screen at the front of the hall, most of them about activists who had been tortured or killed by the police. Off to one side of the hall, next to a Christmas tree, was a collection of sleeping bags, where Svoboda’s volunteers got some rest whenever they could.

Many of these people came from other parts of Ukraine, and had been away from their families and friends for weeks, just to serve the cause of the Maidan. The walls were adorned with the flags of the various parties, as well as the image of Stepan Bandera, the founder of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists that had opposed the Soviets in the mid-twentieth century, and who continues to serve as an inspiration to nationalist activists today. Once again, I was impressed by the austerities these people were willing to undergo for the sake of their people.

My own talk was on “European Values and European Patriotic Movements.” In essence, I said that the most important issue facing the Maidan wasn’t Ukraine’s geopolitical orientation, but rather how best it could orient itself to combat liberalism. To underscore my point, I outlined some of the many horrors that liberalism has wrought in North America and Western Europe in recent decades. My talk seemed to be well-received, and many people approached me afterwards with questions. It became apparent that while some Ukrainians still aspire to the mirage of the lifestyle that they imagine we have here in America and Western Europe, many of them also understand that America today represents something that should be avoided at all costs.

I’ll mention another anecdote from that evening. After my talk, a rumor started to spread through the Maidan that the police were going to storm it that very night. This turned out to be false, but we had no way of knowing that. An old man who had listened to my speech approached me and asked, “Aren’t you afraid of being beaten?” At first I laughed, but upon reflection, I realized that what he was suggesting was a real possibility. As one of my Ukrainian friends had told me, “Once they find out you have an American passport, they’ll let you go, but if they come charging in here with truncheons they’re not going to bother to ask you first.”

I realized that I had never had to think about such a thing before. I’ve been publicly associated with what could be loosely termed the “New Right” for about seven years now, but I’d never had to worry about much more than being heckled by antifa or getting an occasional nasty e-mail. But here I was faced with the prospect of actual, physical violence. Had the police attacked that night, would I have been able to stand firm, as so many others did at the Maidan, in the face of the possibility of being injured or killed? I hope and believe that the answer is yes, although I have no way of knowing for certain until the moment actually comes.

John Morgan speaking at the 2014 American Renaissance Conference.

John Morgan speaking at the 2014 American Renaissance Conference.

This brought home for me the fact that activism for us in the West tends to be something very abstract, a battle waged in the pages of journals or in online comments sections rather than on the streets. In the East, it still has a very palpable, existential character, with real and immediate consequences. I think this is something that we would do well to keep in mind as we go about our activities. Identity is not an idea, but something we embody and live, and as such, it should be something visible in the world around us, insofar as we have the ability to affect it. The struggle in the world of ideas is important, certainly, but ultimately this is not merely a debate, but an attempt to reshape and redefine the world—a world that is always going to fight back.

No matter how one looks at it, there are certainly aspects of what has been happening in Ukraine since the revolution that are worrisome—as in any revolution, I suppose. Nevertheless, when viewed from the perspective of European nationalism, I think the fact that, regardless of whatever one thinks of the ends they were pursuing, thousands of ordinary Ukrainians were willing to give up their time and comforts for the sake of living in tents for months, and to risk their lives for the sake of their nation—and certainly without the sense that they were being manipulated by outside forces—is something that should inspire anyone looking for real nationalist activism in the world today.

The Story of Jobbik

The story of Jobbik is much less dramatic, since it is a traditional political party pursuing power through the democratic process in Hungary, and the political situation there is quite stable at the moment. What makes Jobbik particularly interesting is the degree of its success and the ideas it propagates. Thus far I have encountered nothing like it in European politics. Jobbik was founded just over a decade ago, in 2003, and when it fought its first election in 2006, it won less than 2 percent of the vote. As I mentioned before, in this month’s election Jobbik won more than 20 percent of the vote, which, in terms of sheer numbers, ranks it as the most successful nationalist party in Europe apart from the National Front in France.

I believe Jobbik has attained this success by appealing to the growing dissatisfaction of many Hungarians with their membership in the European Union, since exiting the EU is one of the planks of the party’s platform. Increasingly, Hungarians are beginning to see the EU as nothing more than a way for the major Western European powers to amass cheap labor while Hungarians see few benefits in return. Likewise, many Hungarians, especially in the countryside, are beginning to worry about the gradual erosion of their traditional values and customs. Jobbik stands for a return to those values, and plans to increase incentives for Hungarians who are working abroad to come home, and to ensure that immigration, which is currently not a major factor in Hungarian society, stays that way. Jobbik also makes an issue out of the international capitalist system, which it claims is the primary force eroding all cultures and traditions in the world today. Jobbik favors a return to a more locally-based economic model.

Much of the rest of Jobbik’s program is highly unorthodox. Jobbik favors stronger ties with Turkey, Russia and Germany, all of which have been Hungary’s historical enemies, but which Jobbik sees as essential for constructing a bulwark against the continuing encroachment of American and Western European liberalism, under the auspices of NATO and the EU. Notable in this regard is Jobbik’s close cooperation with the Eurasia Movement in Russia of Professor Alexander Dugin, which is worth discussing in its own right.

Professor Dugin has long been an unofficial adviser to Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin, in addition to his prodigious work as an author (my own Arktos publishes his books in English) and as a professor at Moscow State University. All of his work is directed at combating the prevalence and proliferation of liberalism throughout the world, and is unique in that he is one of the few to attempt to apply the ideas of the European “New Right,” as embodied by such thinkers as Alain de Benoist, to geopolitics. The spiritual traditionalism and perennial philosophy that was originally taught by figures such as René Guénon and Julius Evola is also central to his thought. Many of Jobbik’s writings, programs and public statements show the influence of Professor Dugin and his work.

One of the most controversial aspects of Jobbik’s program is its desire for alliances with Asia and the Middle East, and the Islamic world in particular. Jobbik views the anti-Islamic stance assumed by many other nationalist parties in Europe as an error. Jobbik’s leader, Gábor Vona, said in a widely publicized statement last year that the Islamic world is the best hope in the world today to combat liberalism—although what is usually left out is the rest of that sentence, in which he said, “and I say that as a Catholic.” This statement alarmed many, but it has usually been misrepresented, since Mr. Vona has made it clear elsewhere that he doesn’t favor immigration from Islamic countries into Europe, doesn’t favor the Islamicization of Europe, and doesn’t think Turkey belongs in the EU.

Jobbik’s attitude is consistent with the metaphysical perspective of the aforementioned traditionalism of Guénon and Evola, which holds that all traditional religions share a common core and that all stand in opposition to liberalism and the excesses of the modern world. I don’t think it’s possible to understand Jobbik without some understanding of traditionalism. After Jobbik’s congress in January, I spoke with a man who was introduced to me as one of their top ideologues, who said to me, “Politics is nothing; traditionalism is everything!”

One of the party’s major magazines, Magyar Hüperión, contains translated essays by the central thinkers of traditionalism (including Guénon, Evola and Frithjof Schuon), along with articles on politics from a traditionalist perspective. Traditionalism is one of the major elements of Jobbik’s worldview, so one can understand Mr. Vona’s statements only in those terms. When he calls Islam one of the major forces that can combat liberal values—as can all traditional faiths—he does so in reference to Islam as a religion, rather than as a call for an alliance with the more radical and distasteful elements of political Islamism and jihad.

Why Not Here?

Why can’t nationalist movements be successful here? I think the answer is simply that the cultural foundations for such movements are still present in Eastern Europe while they have long since been eroded here. Whatever one may think about the Soviet Union, for half a century the Iron Curtain prevented Cultural Marxism and the worst excesses of liberalism from penetrating into the East. Thus, those societies remained ethnically cohesive and retained a strong sense of national identity, and even their religious institutions, while officially suppressed, only grew in strength by being cast into a dissenting role. Those are the factors upon which any sense of a national or ethnic culture must be founded. This is not to say that liberal trends that threaten to cancel out this advantage are not taking root in Eastern Europe. They are–particularly in the urban areas. But the rot hasn’t yet proceeded to the point where change has become impossible.

So the question is: What can Eastern Europe teach the West? Since the vital foundations of identity, culture and religion have already largely evaporated in any real sense, what is left for us? The situation is dire.

Nevertheless, I think Eastern Europe, and also what I have seen taking place in my own publishing house Arktos, can be instructive. My conclusion is that if any progress is to be made, we need to approach the problem culturally, and in terms of ideas, rather than politically. Any political movement is doomed to failure unless it can reflect the desires of a large number of its community. At the moment, what we are offering is not what most of our people desire. For that to change, we have to influence the culture. This is what the European “New Right” has been saying for nearly half a century now. Little attempt has been made to put this into practice, but I think this is the way forward. More importantly, I think we need to inspire the passions and imaginations of our people, which we have also been failing to do.

The Identitarian movement, which has been extremely popular among the youth in Europe in recent years is, in my view, the first spark of such a development. The Identitarians have shed the old language and hang-ups of conservatism without sacrificing its values, and are winning popularity by adopting many of the tactics of the radical Left: street-level activism, snazzy videos, and the like. In short, it’s cool. Also, the Identitarians have recognized what the core issue really is: identity, going beyond mere politics and ideology to something visceral. People can feel what it is to be a Hungarian or a Frenchman—it is something obvious. It’s not something that needs to be expressed in words or concepts.

Generation Identitaire occupies the future grand mosque of Poitiers [Tours].

Generation Identitaire occupies the future grand mosque of Poitiers [Tours].

Identitarianism is good for Europe, and I have hope for it; the problem is how to transfer it to the United States. What sense of identity do the majority of those of European descent have in America today? Perhaps here in the South, something still remains of the venerable Southern tradition that could still be revived. But the situation in the rest of the country seems hopelessly tragic.

Identity has become a matter of consumerism: your identity is the slogan on your shirt or which television series you like. Appeals to the benefits of the American identity of the 1950s or earlier, for most Americans today, is something as foreign and unappealing as asking them to assume the identity of ancient Egyptians. Some have suggested “white nationalism” as a solution to this problem. For me, this is insufficient, first because it’s a slippery concept in itself, and also because I find it hard to become enthusiastic about the idea that I’m “white.” A Hungarian or a Pole or a Swede has an entire history and tradition to look back on. “Whiteness,” to my mind, is too vague.

If Americans don’t have an identity to draw on, what remains? We still have the remaining factors of culture and religion to consider. Again, Eastern Europe is still rich in these things, and they are what form the basis of nationalist politics there. In America today, all we have is consumer culture and liberal platitudes. The heady days of America’s early years, which produced such wonders as Transcendentalism and the American Renaissance in literature, are long gone. And most of what passes for “religion” these days is either thoroughly compromised by liberalism or else thoroughly moronic—often both.

But what I have observed through my dealings with Arktos’ readers is that there is a great hunger, especially among young people, for new perspectives on culture, politics, and religion that are suffused with the authentic values of the traditional West, to give them something to aspire to. What they want, I believe, are new ideas and myths to inspire them and to give them a sense of purpose.

This does not mean merely conservatism in a new guise; what is wanted is more radical thinking, in the sense of going beyond the limits of what is normally considered Right-wing. In some cases, it may even involve synthesizing ideas and approaches more traditionally identified with the Left. Likewise, conservatism in the West has decayed to the point that even much of what would normally have been traditional or “Right-wing” in Western thought in previous eras now seems new and revolutionary if presented in the proper way.

It should be clear by now that the ideals that first took root in the 1960s and that have dominated our society ever since are becoming more and more shopworn. The reality that young people see around them today is full of evidence of the failures of the attempts to enact these ideals. More to the point, they are growing tired of hearing these same old catchwords trotted out again and again. I firmly believe that the cultural vigor of the West as a whole is passing, if it hasn’t already passed, from the Left to the Right. By this I don’t mean the Republican Right, which is just as liberal as its opposition, but rather what Evola termed the “true Right”—the Right founded on the timeless principles and traditions of our people.

If we continue to offer fresh perspectives in an intriguing manner, and if people continue to respond to them, I think the rest will follow. It is not enough to offer a critical, purely negative view of our civilization as presently constituted. We must offer a positive, constructive alternative vision of what we want that can be attractive to people, and that indicates to ourselves where we want to be heading.

In our own modest way in Arktos, we are trying to offer the appetizers to inspire a greater hunger in our people for a more authentic mode of living and being. Books about the realities of race and of social trends are important, and we must continue to promote them. However, I think it is even more important to offer new ideas in politics, culture, philosophy and religion, and also to produce more creative works that reflect our worldview: fiction, poetry, art, music, videos, and hopefully one day even fully-fledged films. Nothing can inspire people more than a creative vision with which they can readily identify. I hope many more groups will follow in Arktos’ footsteps in this regard.

I’ve mentioned religion, and I think I should delve into this briefly. This isn’t universal, but I have noticed a distinct attraction among many young people towards more traditional forms of spirituality and the sorts of books that Arktos publishes in this area. Traditionalism is certainly part of that. I think this is only natural, since religion at its best offers one of the last refuges of authenticity amidst a society that has become mostly plastic and virtual. And certainly many of the most highly motivated movements and activists I have known on the Right have drawn their sense of purpose, at least in part, from a sense of the spiritual.

This is particularly true of Jobbik. I think the sacred must be an integral part of any attempt to forge a new nationalist culture. This is not to say that we should attempt to propagate a specific religion, as I think such an effort could create divisions, but the cultivation of authentic forms of spirituality, provided that they are consistent with our own norms and values, is a worthy undertaking. A spiritual sense of purpose is the most highly effective way to inoculate oneself against the diseases and temptations of the liberal world.

Hopefully, all this will lead to something corporate America learned was the key to power decades ago: the creation of a subculture, and the identity that follows from that. And, given the right circumstances, a subculture can very quickly influence the prevailing culture. If this happens, it might not even be necessary to have a political movement as such—the perspectives we offer will become commonplace and second-nature—in effect, an identity, and society will be inevitably transformed as a result. I realize this may sound overly idealistic, but the power of ideas and cultural forms should never be underestimated.

In conclusion, then, I’ll say that what Eastern Europe has shown me is that the political struggle is only the outward form of a battle that is really more cultural, and culture rests on what lies within each individual who participates in it. In order to be willing to sacrifice the comforts of home and camp out in the freezing cold, or to risk being hit by a policeman’s baton, a solid sense of identity is required.

Unfortunately, what Eastern European nationalists are born and instilled with is something that we must strive to create for ourselves, if we want to form the basis of something capable of transforming the societies we live in. And once we have achieved that for ourselves, we will provide an example that others will strive to imitate. As that great politician Gandhi once said, “If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. We need not wait to see what others do.” I think we can do this.

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  • Bartek

    I read this article with great interest. I feel that at one time pre-1960’s the USA was striving to have an “ethnicity” and “identification” of its own, as “Americans”.
    Prior to the Heart Celler immigration laws of 1963 eligibility for immigration was based on the ability of the immigrant to potentially assimilate into the concept of an “American” in order to forge this “identity”.
    The social engineering movement of the 1960’s (designed seemingly to be inclusive to the African freed slaves) turned the concept of “American” on its head. No longer was assimilating and fitting in important or even desirable. Official policy did become “Helter Skelter”.
    Personally, I feel cheated. My family came to the USA in the late 1800s and early 1900s, they learned the language, adapted to the culture, and in too many ways lost what they were for a concept that no longer exists.
    As one of their descendants I feel nationless. I lack the purity of ethnicity that would enable me to seemlessly return to Europe (some of those Eastern nations are finally encouraging and incorporting right of return laws). The languages I should speak I do not know, and no one would teach, because I was supposed to be an “American”.
    Frankly, I hate this country, I hate everything it has become and I really want to go home. But that is very difficult to do for a displaced European who is the product of the lie of “American” and “assimilation”.

    • VladimirKnopka

      I felt exactly as you in the US. Seven years ago I moved to Europe… and it was the best decision of my lifetime. I should have done it earlier! Now I have permanent residency, a wife and child, a flat in a historic district, and work at a university. All these things seemed next-to-impossible when I was in the US.

      There is a steady stream of White Americans and Australians coming here, marrying local women, and settling down HERE [not going back].

      This is not to say it is easy or without drawbacks. But filling out the bureaucratic paperwork was not the hard part for me… tedious, but not hard. I dealt with two years of horrible culture-shock! European social standards are quite different than American in some areas like customer service, individualism, friendliness [or lack thereof] to strangers, etc. It took time to get used to, but it was well worth it. My family has a future here… I felt I had no future in America.

      In conclusion, I think all ‘race-aware’ Whites should move to Europe. Here we can form real communities, and have real political parties that watch out for our cultural best interests.

      • Bartek

        I am very happy for you. You made the right decision at the right time in your life.
        You do have a chance at a future thanks to the decisions you made and the opportunities you had and took at the correct point in your life.

      • I guess you mean Central or Eastern Europe, since you make no mention of the rapid demographic changes in Western Europe.

        • VladimirKnopka

          1. So?

          2. Are Vienna, Salzburg, Dresden central or western Europe in your opinion? In my experience, the ‘second cities’ in EU are fine. Yes, you have to be smart about it and research the region you want to move to [Catalonia? Normandy?]. It would be idiotic to move to London or Birminghan at this point in time.

          3. ‘Eastern Europe’: Athens, the birthplace of Western Civilization, is further east than Warsaw, Poland, or Sofia, Bulgaria. It’s about the same longitude as Lviv, Ukraine.

          • the ‘second cities’ in EU are fine.

            Good, such a statement can still be made about some good-sized cites in the US, Canada and Australia. But follow the demographic trends. Some of us are as concerned about the long-term future of the people of European heritage as we are about our own happy comfy lifestyle over the next few decades.

          • Correction to my earlier post, which has not appeared yet: Should have said ‘the next decade,’ since few larger cites of majority European heritage will likely still exist a few decades from now in the former Western civilization.

          • I’ll just add, sounds to me that you are highly sensitive on the definitions of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Fine with me. I’ll let Europeans who live in Europe work all that out amongst themselves.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I think of Austria as a Germanic country, and have always had a keen interest in Austria. Does Austria have problems with Muslim/African influx?? I know that Sweden surely does.

        • VladimirKnopka

          “I guess you mean Central or Eastern Europe”

          I still don’t understand your point here.

          “no mention of the rapid demographic changes in Western Europe”

          1. Don’t be fooled by percentages: If the foreign population in Denmark goes from 3% to 6%, one could get alarmist and scream “it’s a 100% increase”… but in actual numbers that’s not much because of base values. The total population of Denmark is small, and the foreign population is tiny in sheer numbers [in comparison to the total EU populace, 500 million].

          2. In 2012, White births fell into the minority in the US. That hasn’t happened anywhere in Europe… not even close!

          3. Lets say France has the hugest non-white pop. at 15% [or so I’ve heard]. I don’t like the sound of that; I think it’s dangerous to go over 5% for any reason. BUT!!! the US non-white pop. is over 30%. Again… not even close!

          “Some of us are as concerned about the long-term future of the people of European heritage”

          This is exactly why I decided to comment. I believe America is no longer a defensible position for Whites. I believe we need to regroup.

          • “I guess you mean Central or Eastern Europe”

            I still don’t understand your point here.
            – – –
            Yes, you are right. I didn’t directly answer because I thought it was self-evident. The term “Europe” was used. I was just pointing out that to think of all nations in Europe as some White haven is delusional. I’m not interested in trying to put down any other White-majority nation. The US has had a pretty large minority of non-Whites for a long time, but Europe is catching up fast.

            As far as “America is no longer a defensible position for Whites,” the US still has several large regions that are overwhelmingly White, any one of which is larger than some entire European nations. But I have no interest in saying the UK or some other nation is now not “defensible.” Who am I to know what is in our future? I also have no desire to put down any nation or to throw it into the wastebasket of history to bolster my pet idea of what nation all Whites should move into, if they nation would in fact allow many millions to move in, which they would not at the present time or near future.

          • 1stworlder

            The problem is no matter where you go in the US you will be taxed to pay for Laskanka’s 21 illegitimate crack babies.

          • True, and now the same thing is happening in Europe, as they all have to support invading Muslims and their broods, not to mention Gypsies and you name it. People like the Swedes used to look down their noses at our ‘racist’ history. Now, even with their cradle to grave ‘social safety net,’ they have black ‘no-go zones,’ where even ambulances and firetrucks must be accompanied by police protection. But will anything wake up Whites, especially our elites? Seems doubtful.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            White Leftists only wake up when they are victimized by the die-versity which they have treated with such munificence

          • Well said. I’ve heard that there are plenty of White ‘liberals’ in South Africa who still have not given up on the coming vibrant ‘Rainbow Nation.’ I guess home invasion ‘robberies’ (rapes, torturing and machete fricassees) will have to be well in progress in their own homes before they start to wake up, too late.

          • MikeofAges

            One point though. Unlike what might be happening in some other countries, the white population in America is not failing. From 1960 to today, the white European population population in American has increased from around 150 million to around 200 million. Not a massive increase for a 50 year period. But no demographic failure either.

            Among the cultural depredations we are made to suffer is being told that our population is failing. Not so. the percentage of whites in the younger age cohorts has declined solely and only because entirely new populations have added.

          • Bartek

            According to the CIA the USA is 80% White (they include all the Mexicans, according to the CIA Hispanic isn’t a race).
            Open your eyes, they Blacks have doubled their real numbers and the Mexicans have over run the border. White woman have their one child when they are well into their 30’s. The USA is a demographic disaster for people of European descent.

          • 1stworlder

            That’s because feminism tells women not to have kids and they don’t deal with the biological clock until their fertility is dropping like a rock post 35yo. The dikes of feminism don’t want women to know fertility drops fast after 35

          • Norseman

            I suppose that among the Hispanics, there would be some that would, from a strictly racial point of view, count as white.

          • Bartek

            True, but we aren’t getting many of those sneaking across the border are we?

          • Norseman

            No, and among those who do, some of them will probably be hostile to non-Hispanic whites.

          • Even when it comes to South Africa, it is not my place to tell Whites to give up and move out. I will leave that to them and to you.

          • captainc

            I think it is possible by defending your turf and regrouping somewhere else www(dot)northwestfront(dot)net and don’t forget to join any of the political parties so that you can write the Laws.

          • 1stworlder

            Obongo is moving 3rdworld black refugees to Wyoming. They will go on welfare and 47 benefits and breed like rabbits, & vote for more free stuff.

          • ThomasER916

            Any increase is 100% wrong.

            Never compromise.

          • Bartek

            You are correct, the USA is a lost cause and we desperately need to regroup.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I agree, Bartek, if we are referring to the present 50 states. Some White Libtards are just not going to get a clue. We don’t need these folks. The answer is secession. We have strongholds. The Mountain South, the rural Midwest, the Northern Great Plains, Pacific Northwest away from Seattle/Portland, and Northern New England. Other than Northern New England, these areas are Conservative.

          • Geo1metric

            Not just the Mountain South; I live in the mountains of Westsylvania, that is, the mountainous parts of Pennsylvania, and of course all of West Virginia. western Pennsylvania, mostly mountains, is very, very White, except for Pittsburgh. And of course West Virginia is virtually all White.

            I would go so far as to say all of Appalachia is ripe for becoming a White enclave.

          • 1stworlder

            But your taxes go to the ratholes of Philly and Pittsburg

          • Geo1metric

            True enough; but that’s the kind of thing we need to correct.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. Westsylvania should be a separate state from the Pennsylvania of Filthydelphia/Harrisburg and Metro Pitt. The Burgh, though, is nice for a big city, and worth saving. I could definitely see secession occurring in Westsylvania, the whole central and Northern part, including Johnstown, Altoona, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, and Erie. Stroudsburg would definitely not be included. Negroids have already dispossessed Whites there, so it belongs with Philly. State College would surely fight Westsylvania statehood. I’d like to see a Westsylvania statehood group form, similar to the Western Maryland group. If some Scranton/Wilkes-Barre politicians came to the fore on this, I could see Westsylvania leading the way in the secession movement, possibly becoming the 51’st state.

          • Geo1metric

            Well, we already have our magazine.

          • 1stworlder

            I just realized the removed the word before holes. I don’t think I have been censored here before.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            You are absolutely right GeoMetric!!! Thank you for mentioning that wonderful Northern Appalachian Core area. Central and Northern PA are ripe for secession along with Western MD, and the Western NY counties South of Buffalo.

          • Geo1metric

            Yes. West Virginia is virtually all White; it’s one of my favorite places to visit. Yes, there’s a good bit of poverty there, but the people are wonderful, and no, they don’t marry their sisters. Well, most don’t.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I love West Virginia as well. Beautiful state, wonderful people. I’ve spent some time around Wheeling, excellent little city with excellent demographics, and the resulting low crime. Southeastern Ohio is nice as well. Ohio South of Canton and Youngstown, and East of Columbus is very similar to Westsylvania

          • Geo1metric

            My wife and I have occasionally stayed at the Oglebay resort in Wheeling. They really do it up nicely over Christmas.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Westsylvania is absolutely ripe for becoming a White enclave, and is ripe for identitarianism of the Pan-European variety. Teutonic and Slavic culture are very much alive and well in Westsylvania, along with a strong Italian element, and of course the Celtic influences of the pioneers who settled West of the Alleghenies. This is Pan-European America at it’s best!!

          • Geo1metric

            Johnstown has at least two Orthodox churches; that’s a lot for a town that size.

      • Garrett Brown

        As this article strongly implies, it depends on what PART of Europe you should have anything to do with, I wouldn’t just recommend people start moving to general Europe.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Sounds awesome!!! You must be somewhere in Eastern Europe. Right now, I’m determined to stay here in the rural Midwest. We don’t have a Mestizo problem as yet, and the Negroids stay in the cities.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      I hate what my country has become as well. I miss my Grandparents’ Generation, who was proud of their roots. Robert Weissberg is right on the money when he speaks of forming Whitopias. He is referring to not just neighborhoods where the demographics are White, but where our culture is in the fore. He knows that such a cultural climate repels Negroids. Those of us who immerse ourselves in Our White European music, art, and literature merely need to group residentially to form Whitopias.

  • Steven Barr

    “Eastern Europe” makes no geographic or political sense anymore. If you want a better picture of which part of Europe is more traditional then the old divide between Catholic/Protestant and Orthodox Europe is a better indicator than Cold War alliances. The Czechs are much more corrupted than the Greeks.

    • jeffaral

      Eastern Orthodox churches, especially the Russian one, have always been incredibly corrupt, despotic and backward. The last thing we in the West want is to import their primitive beliefs and lifestyle.

      • Bartek

        Actually what we needed was to not lose our cultures (our ethnic religions were bearers of culture) only to have them replaced by the corrupt, despotic, and progressive Judo-Christianity (a fabricated concept that is really Secular Humanism).
        Western ‘freedom’ from indigenous culture is one of the keys to our downfall.

        • Steven Barr

          Christianity, like it or not, has been the most prominent influence on European culture for two millenia. We can’t just discard it on account of its origins.

          • Bartek

            I agree, but Christianity and Judo-Christianity are mutually exclusive concepts.
            What I was attempting to say, is that Christianity WAS the bearer of European civilization. When Christianity was liberalized and subverted (in part to please the heretic and unbelievers) it lost its role as the bearer of European civilization, thus the fall of both institutions.

          • IstvanIN

            Thank you. There is no “Judeo-Christianity” (unless that refers to Jews for Jesus), we are Christians of one stripe or another.

          • Luis

            Istvan, I myself have been troubled by the terms “Judaic-Christian” and Judeo-Christianity”. Other than a belief in God, the fact that Jesus was an ex-Jew and that both religions originated in the same part of the globe; what really binds Christians and Jews?

            Consider: Christian charity does not require repayment; whereas, if a Jew is wronged, the offender must make retribution, after which the Jew decides whether they are forgiven or not.

            Then there are the dietary restrictions of Jews, differences in church and synagogue practices and worship, Jews do not undergo the rite of baptism, and different Sabbath days of the week, to name a few.

          • IstvanIN

            And Jews do not follow the teachings of Christ. We should.

          • ThomasER916

            I used to think this way but I’ve come to understand that we need our own, tribal, racial religion. The problem with Christianity is when we open the Bible we’re not reading about ourselves. That’s the problem Europeans everywhere are facing right now. We turn on the TV and see non-Whites. We open a magazine and we see non-Whites. We open our history books and it’s no longer our history. We’re left out of everything.

            Whites vaguely understand that Christianity exists because of Whites. The problem is every race is an ingrate towards us. Every non-White that becomes a Christian muddies the water of our identity. Negroes would still be slaves if it weren’t for Whites. They don’t care and can’t think enough to care. They hate us anyway. Jews would have all rotted in concentration camps. We fought other Whites to save them. They’re still communists, Leftists, and the worst anti-Whites in the world. Freeing Jews was a mistake like freeing Negroes.

            Whites have a history and religion of identity that illustrates who we are.

            Easter and Halloween are ours, like Yule Tide (Christmas). The generosity and gift-giving of Christmas is White.

            Thermopylae is our last stand against Asian hordes of non-Whites. Like the Alamo and the Gates of Vienna, the Spartan victory at Thermopylae is our triumph.

            Templars are the first volunteer, pan-tribal army of Whites that protected us and defended us from our bankers, aristocrats and foreign races. Then, like now, the Christian Church killed our defenders.
            Holodomor and Boer genocide are great tragedies for all Whites. They tell us what happens when non-Whites are allowed live among us, lord over us and militate against us without the reprisal of total war. Like the Potato Famine, they’re a reminder that genocide against our people and tribes by tyrants and dictators is an ever present threat.

            Our independence as peoples yearning to be free is found in our heroes and heroines. Joan of Arc is a Saint. She stood in defiance of foreign tyrants illustrating that no one has the right to live among us, invade us or lord over us – no more White Wars. It illustrates that wars between Whites benefit the elite and always hurt Whites. She shows us that each tribe is sacred and our bond begins with blood and encompasses everything in our lives – language, history, identity, and existence. She was murdered by the Church.

            When we open a Bible we go back in time 2000+ years and read about non-Whites and their tribes. When we open Beowulf, The Histories, Odyssey, Aeneid, Kalevala, and many others we read about our Tribes, our People, our Race. The problem with Christianity is it’s not explicitly White, it’s deracinated, and provides Whites with no ancestry. The Whites who have used Christianity to do this (Hutterites, Amish, et al) have become agrarian communes, which doesn’t help us. What we need are scholarly and militant (militia) communes of explicit White tribes to preserve and protect ethnicity, identity, culture, language, history, religion, and most of all our People. We don’t need a “reset button”, we just need to be ourselves and tell our own stories.

          • Geo1metric

            Excellent analysis!

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            You are absolutely correct about the ethnic churches. Quite a few Lutheran churches have still not been corrupted by Liberalism in the rural Midwest. Episcopal and Presbyterian churches seem to be especially bad.

      • IstvanIN

        All churches have some corrupt earthly leaders because they are men and men are not perfect. But we mustn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

        • MikeofAges

          It’s the other way around. You don’t want to discard the bathwater along with its comcomitant “baby”, the “baby” being human imperfection. Around here, we are noted for our high IQs. Think, man. Think.

    • IstvanIN

      Perhaps central Europe? Between the west and Russia?

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    Identity has become a matter of consumerism: your identity is the slogan on your shirt or which television series you like. Appeals to the benefits of the American identity of the 1950s or earlier, for most Americans today, is something as foreign and unappealing as asking them to assume the identity of ancient Egyptians. Some have suggested “white nationalism” as a solution to this problem. For me, this is insufficient, first because it’s a slippery concept in itself, and also because I find it hard to become enthusiastic about the idea that I’m “white.” A Hungarian or a Pole or a Swede has an entire history and tradition to look back on. “Whiteness,” to my mind, is too vague.

    ———————————-

    First off, I think that the article above is excellent. I agree generally, but I will explain what I think about identity. It is true that Western Europeans and North Americans have lost touch with their roots, but, in fact, I see many signs that they are looking for those roots. To prove my point I can quote from the Science Daily article Ground-breaking technique traces DNA direct to your ancestor’s home 1,000 years ago:

    Tracing our ancestry is now a major social trend and genealogy is the number one hobby in America. An estimated one million people in the USA have already had their DNA genotyped. People can explore their DNA by simply taking a swab from inside their mouth and sending it to a company such as 23andme or [ancestry DOT com] for costs ranging from $99-$200.

    If people were not interested in their roots, tracing one’s ancestry would not be number 1 hobby in America. It is clear that there is a demand: Whites want to find their roots. They are not yet satisfied, and we have a message that can satisfy them. The question is, therefore, one that is related to finding our roots: How are we going to present our message in such a way that we can reconnect our people with their roots?

    • Bartek

      Whites need nationality ‘status’ like Jews have with Israel and Aboriginal Americans have with their Nations/reservations.
      If you meet the genetic criteria you can obtain citizenship and right of return.
      I won’t hold my breath on that one. Considering one of the main goals of the EU is to wipe out nationalism and ethnic identity among Europeans I certainly don’t think Whites wanting to return to their ethnic homelands would be very welcome.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        I opt for a genetic European identity. If someone takes a DNA test and does not meet European genetic standards or requirements, then he or she should not be eligible for living in Europe. I do not only base my identity on my obviously native European looks, but also on my genetic heritage, i.e. my DNA. We have to be really strict about what genetic make-up defines a European, so that we can exclude all those whose genetic make-up does not sufficiently match ours, lest we should go extinct by assimilation like the Neanderthals. However, a relative small amount of non-European admixture should not be a huge problem and can be bred out in a few generations. We just need to determine what is the maximum of non-European admixture that we allow. I think that every genetic European should have the right to return to Europe, no matter where they live now. I consider Europe as our base. Europe must always be safe, and Europeans must always be able to return to Europe. We must protect our old continent at any cost, and we must try to design and advocate all kinds of policies to that end.

        • Bartek

          That sounds a lot like pre 1965 USA.
          Pre 1965 USA did not have the cultural fortitude or ethnic unity to resist the subversion that irrevocable destroyed it.
          Most of Europe has such a low indigenous birth rate and such a high none European colonization rate that I would imagine that Europeans will be a distinct minority in most of Western Europe in less than 40 years!

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            I believe that the change back to the old demographic situation in Europe will turn out to be inevitable if our belief that ethnic conflict and ethnic tensions – as seen in the daily news – are also inevitable, is true and no incorrect conclusions have been drawn about the clashes between peoples. Change is constant. The leftists are right about that, but they are not right about the final outcome.

          • But the question is whether the color of that homogeneous mass will be white or brown. What are A, B, and C in your argument?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            What are A, B, and C in your argument?

            I should have clarified it.

            A = racial/ethnic conflict

            B = racially/ethnically diverse society

            C = racially/ethnically homogeneous society

            But the question is whether the color of that homogeneous mass will be white or brown.

            That’s indeed the question, but I am betting on White.

          • Martel

            Choice A is the inevitable corollary of Choice B.

          • ThomasER916

            So true. We cannot pretend that choosing B will not inevitably lead to A.

          • They are good arguments and not too dissimilar from ones I’ve used myself. I am very interested in these kinds of arguments. We need as many as we can think of. I’m working on writing a short essay or pamphlet containing arguments like these against diversity and the like. Once I’m finished with it, I’ll try to get it circulating around the internet. I’ve made a YouTube video with several of these. I think I’m going to take it down soon and upload a neater version. Not sure yet. But the great thing about them is that they are compact, straightforward, and powerful. They take almost no time to read. You can leave them in comments sections, things like that, and many people will look them over since they are so little. They’re like little race realist land mines.
            Here’s my take on your arguments.

            P1a – Insoluble conflict among races is a property of racially diverse societies.
            P2a – Insoluble conflict always leads to the decline or cessation of society.
            .’. Racial diversity always leads to the decline or cessation of society.

            P1b – The more racial diversity there is, the more racial conflict there will be.
            P2b – When races are in conflict, they tend to separate into homogenous communities or nations.
            .’. The more racially diverse a society is, the more it will tend to split into racially homogenous communities or nations.

            As far as I can tell, these arguments are perfectly valid by the rules of inference. The first is a straight syllogism and the second is a hypothetical syllogism. So, the only way to attack them is to attack the Ps. P1a is quite strong, although the inclusion of the word “insoluble” will tend to be a point of contention. But the argument still works even without it. P2a and P1b are almost tautological.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            I agree and I like your analysis.

            Let me explain what inspired me for this argument.

            Leftists are wont to talk about the inevitability of social processes, so I decided that we should adopt similar but valid arguments and back it up with data.

            Let me now explain what my intention was with this argument.

            I intended to prove in my argument that if we start in B, then A and C are inevitable.

            Let me now make a summary of my argument.

            This is what I said in short:

            C is inevitable if A is inevitable in B.

            The inevitability of C can be proven through the inevitability of A in B.

          • Geo1metric

            I’ve done something similar with little business size cards. I have the amren address on the card, and short phrase such as “stop illegal immigration”.

            I drop them everywhere.

          • I hadn’t thought of business cards! That’s a great idea!

          • Geo1metric

            Yeah, they’re not my business cards but cards I make up specifically to “spread the word”. I put different phrases on them such as “Diversity = Division”, etc.

            The recent “competition” on Amren gave me a myriad of “phrases” to use in future. I hope no one copyrighted their entry/s.

            I leave them just about everywhere I go. If I go into a library, for example, I’ll stick them in books that are on the NYT’s bestseller list., etc. I leave them in mens’ rooms, I leave them everywhere.

            I don’t leave home without them. Ripples man, ripples.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I think that Westsylvania is an AmRen kind of place. Maybe Westsylvania secession is meant to begin with AmRen.

          • MikeofAges

            In pre-1965 America, American believed we were in a world battle with the Communist bloc, in which the balance of power was held the “uncommitted” Third World masses. What a bunch of bilge, really. But we believed, and the rhetoric of major politicians reflected this idea.

            When are we going to say to whomever want the Third World, “Go ahead, take it.”

            The beginning of the downfall of Western civilization coincided with the “Race for Africa”. The race for the Americas and race for Asian colonies had no such effect. Today China and India are working, ostensibly competitively, but maybe cooperatively behind the scenes, to economically take over Africa and other parts of the Third World. Let them have it. If we need anything, we can buy it.

          • Sick of it

            We had both in the South, so they sent in the military. Again.

        • Anna Tree

          I believe that all race and even ethnicity have evolved differently in response to separation, environment, adaptations and mutations. So my theory is that each of us will be better off in the area where his ancestors are from. The diet, the climate, the altitude etc should give one the best advantage in health, survival, comfort etc

          So yes, I think DNA test will have to be conducted and for the better of the race white (and so mankind) as much as possible, I think Italian ancestry people could/should go back to Italy, German ancestry to Germany, English to England, French to France etc. While mixed European ancestry could/should remain or move to Canada, US or Australia, or whatever remain of those (until whole again).

          Of course everything should be voluntary, but I would say this would be the best for the race and the individuals, re. strength, longevity, healthiest progeniture and so our gene future. I would say this could reverse some of the dysgenic that has been going on, maybe beside some voluntary eugenics a la Prof. James Dewey Watson. I think this is the real and positive diversity that should be praised and pursued.

          • That is interesting. I love a lot of things about the American South, but one thing I hate about it is that it’s in the South – i.e., it’s HOT. I feel serene and energetic when the weather is overcast, cool, and rainy. I’ve always wondered if it’s coincidence or not that my preferred climate pretty well matches the stereotype of that of my ancestral homeland (England).

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            I surely like the climate in my area. All of my ancestors come from this area, so it is only logical that I like the climate of my area. I can live in any cold-climate country without any difficulties, but the climate of countries like Italy is already too hot for me. I have a very light skin, so I can easily get sun-burned and hot weather makes me drowsy. I think people in my area look more like Scandinavians than Germans, and I have been mistaken for a Norwegian (or any other Scandinavian ethnicity) countless times. I like to self-identify as a German, but I am an ethnic East Frisian.

          • Consider yourself very lucky. You would be miserable here (like me). The average summer temperature is between 30 and 32 C. The western half of the US roughly corresponds to Western Europe in terms of climate. The Northwest Coast (Oregon and Washington) has the same climate type as the British Isles. Unfortunately, the West Coast is politically retarded and under heavy third world invasion (even worse than the Southeast, where I am). So I have to either burn and blister around (a few) people who think like me, or I can be cool and calm around morons. Not an easy choice. I guess the Midwest would be a fair compromise.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Most of the rural/small town Midwest is pretty conservative. Farming seems to bring out common sense in folks. The farm population here is heavily Teutonic. Stoic and sensible.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I’m a quarter Swedish, an eighth Ashkenazi, the rest German descent. I’m pretty hearty in the cold, don’t like a lot of heat. I’m glad to live in the Northern United States. Have to wear suntan lotion in the summer, or I get burned badly with lots of peeling. I know folks of Sicilian descent who walk around in a jacket unless it is 80 degrees or more.

          • captainc

            How can one tell apart between German and Scandinavian?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            A very good question. I do not have the time to provide you with a large corpus of pictures of typical Germans and Germanic Scandinavians, but I will explain you the basics. First, the pictures of Germans and Scandinavians in magazines are in no way representive of the typical looks of ethnic Germans and Scandinavians. Second, you have to assume that there are differences between ethnic Germans and Scandinavians to become more aware of the differences. Third, the face (esp. the nose), skin colour* and hair colour are the best ways to determine how much someone is German or Scandinavian (see next point). Fourth, there is a great overlap between ethnic Germans and Scandinavians, but when I say that my ethnicity looks more like Scandinavians, I mean to say that our overlap is more than usual and that many of us look identical to Scandinavians, and this might or might not be the result of past or recent Scandinavian admixture. Fifth, the more North you go in Germany, the more ethnic Germans resemble Scandinavians. Sixth, my area was praised as the most Nordic area in Germany by the last Kaiser, and the well-known eugenicist and Nordicist Hans F.K. Günther confirmed the Kaiser’s claim in one of his works. Even though I am not sure whether my points are of any use to you, I can probably make another 40 points or so, but I have unfortunately no time for that.

            *Europeans have a light skin, but there are Europeans who have a lighter skin than other Europeans, like there are Europeans who have lighter hair than other Europeans.

            Now, let me give you a few pictures. This Germanic Scandinavian could have been me:

          • captainc

            perhaps all good looking women when they have slight blonde are considered Nordics, it is just hard to tell a pretty woman what she is, but it is easy to dismiss an ugly one. So, you are from Niedersachen? That is interesting because I think the Dutch have looks above average among other Europeans, however, there are many miscegenations now in Netherlands, even Geert Wilder is partly Indonesian. But they still have Bible-belt and they have big families over there.

            Diversity is at stake.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            perhaps all good looking women when they have slight blonde are considered Nordics, it is just hard to tell a pretty woman what she is, but it is easy to dismiss an ugly one.

            I can surely tell a Germanic Nordic from a Slavic Nordic. Telling the difference between Slavic Nordics and Germanic Nordics is easier than telling the difference between Scandinavian and Dutch/German Nordics, but that does not mean that no such differences exist. Beauty does not really matter for determining whether someone is Nordic or not, but it is a fact that Nordics are often considered beautiful, even when I would personally have another opinion on some Nordic individuals. As you know, the phenomenon to which the aforementioned fact alludes can generally be summarised as “the Nordic ideal.”

            That is interesting because I think the Dutch have looks above average among other Europeans, however, there are many miscegenations now in Netherlands, even Geert Wilder is partly Indonesian.

            I find it sad that our Western neighbours are turning into hardcore miscegenationists, but there is also hope that these trends will be arrested as (ethno)nationalism is on the rise on that country. I am optimistic about the future of Northwestern Europe, even though the clock is ticking. I will do my best to contribute to my own people by having more than three children. That is also what I advise other pro-White or race-aware Whites to do, because in that way we can make an immediate difference. First, we need to make an effort to save our own family. Second, we need to make an effort to save our own ethnicity. Third, we need to make an effort to save our own race.

          • jeffaral

            Heidi, would you guess the ethnic background of that young woman?

          • captainc

            no, I cannot. is this American family? if yes, then it is impossible, but let me try. Italian, Spanish or Balkans?

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Swedes/Norwegians tend to be tall and blond, as do Prussians. More dark hair/short stocky builds as one goes Southward in Deutscheland

          • captainc

            Yeah, but to discern people within own sub-ethnic takes a special skill. I was wondering what the stereotypes for mannerism and physical appeareances are. For us Nigerians and Ghanaians look the same, hell, almost all Bantus look the same.

          • Sick of it

            We like the heat and think people are crazy who live in colder climes. But we’re descended from folks who, literally, survived the various horrors this tropical land inflicted upon them.

          • My family has been living in the South for close to two centuries and I still can’t stand the heat. My body just wasn’t designed for 90 degrees.

          • Geo1metric

            Good thing you have air conditioning.

          • Wōdanaz

            I agree with what you said, I’m also from the South.

            The majority of my roots are from Germany, Denmark and England; I too can’t stand the heat! Ten minutes in direct sunlight in 80 degree weather is guaranteed sunburn…

            Sometimes I think genetic predisposition and memory has something to do with weather-climate preference. Like yourself, I also have found cool, overcast days to be my favorite environment.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        This is where a Pan-European philosophy serves a purpose here in North America, under which all of us White Americans consider each other allies. Whether we are part of the Teutonic rural culture in the Midwest, the Anglo-Celtic “Southron” rural culture, or the urban Italian/Ashkenazi culture of New York, we are all in this fight to preserve our culture together. We are all White America, and we must preserve our cultures against the non-White hordes. In the sixties in the Midwest, Our Italian and Slavic brethren had to fight the invading Negroids from the South. The Negroids literally invaded and destroyed neighborhoods. It was a reign of terror by any measure, in which the victims were White Americans.

    • Martel

      Talking about Identity, there is a meeting of Identitarians hosted by Arktos in Hungary coming October.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        Do you think you will attend this meeting?

        • Martel

          Probably, not sure how my schedule looks in October though.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I like this “identitarian” label. That is a better moniker for us White racial realists to go public with. The right labels are the key, in my opinion, to us garnering widespread support. We need to form clubs with monikers such as Teutonic Heritage Society, Celtic Heritage Society, or Slavic Heritage Society, where folks can learn about their heritage. Once immersed in one’s heritage, desire to defend the rights of our race will logically follow. One who is proud to be German American or Polish American, for example, will automatically be proud to be White. A desire to preserve one’s heritage automatically involves a desire to live amongst other Whites, being repulsed by miscegenation, and an aversion to Black culture and Negroid behavioral traits. Birds of a feather naturally flock together, and a person immersed in their cultural heritage gravitates to others of their own heritage or very similar heritage. In the absence of a fellow culturally aware German American, one will naturallyl gravitate towards Scadinavians, or possibly Poles or Slovaks, not to a Negroid or East Asian when looking for a mate. Whites who are proud of their heritage and in touch with their ethnic roots do not go Mud Sharking, or become afflicted with Yellow Fever when seeking a mate.

        • Martel

          True, white nationalist has negative associations which identitarian does not have. It also gives a sense of what it is about it, something much deeper then skin color.

    • That was the one part of the article that I disagreed with. I have plenty of enthusiasm for my whiteness. When I think of all our accomplishments, past and present, and of our beauty and civility, I feel quite a strong allegiance to whiteness. While I do feel a special identity with England and Scotland, I naturally feel that any European is part of my family. I recently met a Russian guy who owns a body shop, and we got along like we’d known each other forever. There is a bond there that I just do not have with other races.

      • Geo1metric

        That is one of the most natural things in nature. That is why a charge of “racism” is so incredibly ludicrous!!

        Everyone is “racist”, that is, has an affinity for their own kind. Some admit it; others lie.

    • MBlanc46

      We do have Western Civilization. I can identify with that.

      • Bartek

        Hasn’t even the presentation of that been twisted to represent someone else’s ideal?

        • MBlanc46

          Not by me.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        Western civilisation is a racial construct.

        Whites are the genetic carriers of that civilisation.

        It all comes down to the same thing: our genetics.

        • Geo1metric

          Exactly. Culture is a product of our genetic make-up.

  • Steven Barr

    Svoboda are selling out Ukraine to the EU and IMF.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Even worse, the Ukrainian patriots Mr. Morgan mingled with were manipulated by US neocons since day one.

      These good Ukrainians risked their lives to bring down their president Viktor Yanukovych.

      Never mind that Yanukovich was democratically elected and could have been voted out of office in 2015. The neocons wanted him out NOW so they could replace him with a pro-NATO hack.

      • bilderbuster

        And this pro-NATO hack isn’t even Ukrainian.
        He’s Jewish.

        • Bartek

          The majority of the Ukrainian oligarchs are.
          They control the press, mass media, and banking, just like the USA.
          The chocolate king (the next President) is the same.
          I laugh at the reports of this one or that one being pro Russian or pro EU, they are all to the last one just out to make money and their political allegiances switch like the wind.
          Quite honestly the Ukraine is just one huge black mail scam for political favor. It will be a real show watching the incompetent US State Department try to manage that.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Oy Vey freakin Maria!!! Not the Jewish thing again. Hitler was the worst thing that ever happened to the White race. Germany needed to send a pretty good little chunk of Jewish bankers and businessmen to the gallows pole, no doubt about it. Going on a rampage to exterminate the Ashkenazi Jews as an ethnic group, though, was immoral and stupid. Plenty of German Ashkenazim loved their homeland, and would have helped exterminate this contingent of Kikey Jews who had the balls of the German banking industry locked in a vise grips.

          • bilderbuster

            “Not the Jewish thing again”.
            I know.
            Honestly, they never stop and just can’t change their ways!

          • captainc

            I think we should not be deceived by ordinary Jews, while they can be innocence, but their elites are especially poisonous coming with racial and ideological tensions, ever since Roman Empire and now the whole West.

    • jeffaral

      If you’re against Ukrainian Nationalists then you are supporting the new-Soviet Eurasian despot Putin. Throughout history Ukraine has been invaded by half-Asiatic hordes from the East and its population wiped out again and again. Now they have a real chance of achieving independence from the Muscovite empire of evil. If you claim that millions of Ukrainians and the Maidan protesters are just paws in the hands of Neocons then you have no idea of what’s going on. Putin hands off Ukraine.

      • Bartek

        I am sure many of the Slavs in the Ukraine are fighting and dying for their homeland.
        But when I see Victoria Nuland (US State Dept), Christine Lagarde (IMF), and your dual citizen oligarchs running the show along with our very own Pimpish spokes model all I see is the destruction of the Ukraine (eg. UK and France).
        Like it or not there are the pawns (fighting and dying) and then there are the players (EU/USA/IMF).

      • Nevsky

        Out of the frying pan (Putin’s Eurasian dream) and into the fire (the genocidal anti-white EU).

      • captainc

        Ukrainians think they are oppressed by Russians ever since Holodomor. This is clear that nation-state matters more than just White identity, especially in Europe. I am in favor of every nation on earth to claim aboriginal status if their tribes have lived there since 1900, except they claim that their ancestral lands are somewhere else like the Jews, Indians, Blacks or Chinese.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          There is no thinking they’ve been oppressed, they’ve been relentlessly oppressed for centuries by the Russians.

          • captainc

            I thought it was due to this (Bolshevik massacre)

            www(dot)tomatobubble(dot)com/henry_ford_jews(dot)html

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            That was just one of many atrocities against the Ukrainians, the Holodomor however exposed for all the world to see what Bolshevism really was. That was one reason why the Nazis and Gen. Franco relentlessly hunted down and killed them.

  • jeffaral

    Is the author of this article serious about Jobbik??? Jobbik is an Eurasian party, pro-Turkey,pro-Islam, Genghis Khan is their hero. Jobbik is anti-White!

    • Bartek

      Jobbik is pro Maygar.
      Anti EU, probably, but when you look at open border France and the UK that is a plus.

      • Anna Tree

        I also think that Jobbik is making a big mistake by befriending muslim countries and defending islam. I am all for rejecting take-over from Russia and the anti-white US, UN and EU, but Jobbik should reject islam as well.

        Jobbik is trying to disassociate islam and islamism when there is no difference between the two, as islam is a pan-arabism political ideology disguised as a religion, quite backwarded. Jobbik opens the door to islam the same way liberalism it fights, opens the door to it. Hungary will regret it and suffer, if they do, and Europe too.

        Some Hungarians have the romanticized idea that they are more Huns than Europeans (and so atheist thanks to communism, that they don’t think there is a difference between Christianity and islam.) But are they? :

        “Present-day Hungarian populations seem to be genetically European.[57]
        Compared to the European nations, Andrea Vágó-Zalán’s study determined that the Bulgarians were genetically the closest and the Finns were the furthest from the recent Hungarian population.[58]

        Thanks to Pál Lipták’s researches it has been known for almost half century that only 16.7 percent of 10th century human bones belong to the Euro-Mongoloid and Mongoloid types.[59][60]

        The European characteristics in the biological composition of the
        recent Hungarian population and the lack of Asian markers are not solely
        due to the thousand years of blending.[59] Biologically, the population around 1000 AD in Hungary was made up almost exclusively of Europeans.[59]”
        From wiki Hungarians

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Their stance on Islam is good. They are not inviting Islamic hordes to Hungary. They are honestly pointing out that traditional Islam is opposed to Liberalism, and that Turkey detests Liberalism as much as we European Traditionalists do. Jobbik is smart. Better to be an ally with Turkey, set an example of mutual respect from a distance between Europe and the Islamic world.

    • But Jobbik is against bringing in Islamists from other countries. That is more than can be said for the US or France or Germany.
      Dig into some of the political ideas in Islam. You don’t have to accept all of the ideas. And there are also some very moderate versions of Islam – eg in Tunisia, which started the Arab revolt (“Arab Spring”), as well as versions that Russia supports and Russia definitely seems to working toward areas where non-Islamists “rule”.
      And Islamic groups are quite happy to fight each other. So there is not an obligation to have to love all other countries.
      Islam has strength. Christianity no longer does.Fight for countries each with their own people.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Exactly. Jobbik certainly seems to be against Islam. Being allies with Turkey is good. Turkey is the most European of the Islamic countries. As long as the approach is that Turkey must show mutual respect, and that no immigration from Turkey to Hungary will be allowed, Jobbik may be on to something. Turkey is, after all, the most Europeanized Muslim land, does not have problems with Islamic extremists. Allies based on a mutual repulsion at Negroid sociopathy, and a mutual desire to keep them out would be a good thing. The Turks are Asiatics from a racial standpoint, if I am not mistaken

        • captainc

          You know one thing that interests me that the original Arabs of Mekkah are extinct by miscegenation through their favorite Abyssianian (Ethiopian) slaves and this was reported in late 1800s by Sir Richard Burton.

          I think the problem of Islamic extermism has been decided long ago in 1920s when the Turks became secular and self-decidedly to be European.

    • captainc

      Islam is pro-Muslims, so they don’t really care about outsiders, therefore traditionalism. Islam scrouge on Europe is same like Charlemagne’s brutality on pagan native Europeans in Verden an der Alle few hundred years ago.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Race is a key element with Muslims, as with Christians. The Bosnian Muslims are Slavic Europeans, many have blue eyes and fair hair. They have settled in large numbers in St. Louis, Missouri, and they have greatly cleaned up the neighborhood they live in. Crime free and clean. Key element here is that they are Europeans.

        • captainc

          I am glad you can see the benefit of Islam in White. Most Muslims have no hesitation in shedding blood if it’s halal and we don’t care being branded racists, but we are not racists, we are separatists, we respect others’ boundaries.

  • The Russian anthem is so beautiful.

    • Ian Schmidt

      Its Stalin’s old Soviet Anthem, commissioned to celebrate victory of the Soviet Union in the Great Patriotic War. The same melody, but different lyrics.

      • captainc

        yup, evil clothed in sheep’s skin.

  • BulgAryan

    Eastern Europeans are more racially and ethnically conscious because of the 5 centuries long Ottoman yoke. Interestingly enough, the Turks practiced institutionalized eugenics or “reverse miscegenation”, by abducting White boys and girls from the conquered East European counties (Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Romania, Hungary, the Crimea & Southern Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia etc.) converting them into Islam and making them culturally Turk.
    Some Anatolian Turks:

    • BulgAryan

      Some modern day Turk movie stars. Look White, but still alien.

      “Turkish Brad Pitt” Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ

      • BulgAryan

        Ceyda Ateş

        • captainc

          are there many blonde turks? i think the hair is colored.

          • IstvanIN

            One can pick and choose some very beautiful, entertainment industry turks, lets look at the “man on the street”, shall we?

      • Anna Tree

        I think this guy is white.
        I don’t think you can look white, at least that white if the picture is fair to reality, and not be.

        Race is above ideology. If the DNA is white, the guy is white.

        He must be a descendant of white Levantines (Byzantine Christians) or Janissaries (children from Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine etc kidnapped, enslaved, turned to soldiers and forced to go back to Europe to fight their own countries, kidnapping more kids and killing/raping/enslaving families and neighbors and eventually enforcing dhimmitude.)
        Also I checked and his paternal grandmother was an immigrant from Bosnia and Herzegovina.

      • dd121

        When I was in Turkey I ran into a surprising number of “Turks” with blond hair and blue eyes. On TV almost all the advertising is done using light-skinned Europeans. In the USA almost all TV advertising uses blacks. If a white male is portrayed it is as a dolt or at least subservient to blacks and females. It may be subtle but it has a powerful influence on perceptions of race.

    • BulgAryan

      Tuba Büyüküstün

    • BulgAryan

      Beren Saat:

    • Nevsky

      I imagine the original Turks looked like Mongols.

      • captainc

        I think the original local Byzantine populations were acculturated with Muslim culture and Turkish language, just like German Americans and their English language.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          A very good comparison. To the Amish, all of us Whites who are not Amish are referred to as “English”. Other than speaking English as our primary language, we German Americans are certainly part of the Anglo-Saxon based culture of America.

      • Anna Tree

        I beg to disagree Nevsky: the original Turks where Byzantine, i.e. white Levantines.

        After the fall of Constantinople, Byzantines were miscegenated by rapes and forced conversion to islam, with Arabs (who were Caucasians but like the Greek but more, have miscegenated with their black slaves, before and after islam).

        But true that like BulgAryan wrote, the muslim descendants of those Arabo-Byzantines, a.k.a. the Ottomans, later went kidnapping thousands of white children, enslaving and turning them to soldiers forced to go back to Europe to fight their own countries, killing families and neighbors and eventually enforcing dhimmitude.

        Those children were called the janissaries. Ataturk, the father of Turkia, was said to be one of them. He tried to put islam aside, almost succeeded until Abdullah Gul set all back to islam. To secularize a muslim country is not enough, Ataturk should have criticize islam and bring back Christianity. Obviously most people need religion in their lives, secularism cannot suit all: I prefer Christianity as the state religion over islam any day (that is my complaint about Jobbik, trying to disassociate islam and islamism when there is no difference between the two as islam is a political ideology disguised as a religion; he opens the door to islam the same way liberalism he fights, opens the door to it, Hungary will regret it)

        As usual, I say that race is above ideology, included religious. If the DNA of a Turk is white, then he is white and should be reached upon to become a white racialist and revert to his European roots, culture and civilization. Racial realism is biology not beliefs or convictions, beside the fact that we are not enough to reject those whites who want to return to the white race, and rejecting them is making the enemy stronger… and smarter.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I believe they are Asiatics. Probably Asiatic/Caucasian mixture, some pure blooded Slavs of Bulgarian/Balkan descent

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Making Europeans culturally Turkish? Is this how the Bosnian Muslims came about? I don’t know about the ones in Bosnia, but the Bosnian Muslims in St. Louis are good people, law abiding and hard working. Their neighborhood is nice, has some excellent restaurants

  • MBlanc46

    “Whatever one may think about the Soviet Union, for half a century the Iron Curtain prevented Cultural Marxism….”

    So, where they had actual Marxism(-Leninism), they don’t have Cultural Marxism. And yet, we allegedly do.

    • Geo1metric

      “Allegedly”? What do you call “political correctness”, political correctness?

      • MBlanc46

        Exactly. I call political correctness political correctness.

        • Geo1metric

          I call it cultural marxism since it’s goal is to have everyone think alike.

          • MBlanc46

            But Marxism is about class conflict and the ultimate victory of the working class.

          • Geo1metric

            Doesn’t it also seek, as its ultimate goal, the dissolution of “class” distinctions?

          • MBlanc46

            It does. What does that have to do with political correctness?

          • Geo1metric

            PC seeks the dissolution of thought distinctions.

          • MBlanc46

            I’m not quite sure what you mean by that. The PC brigade are certainly interested in maintaining the distinctions between black and white and men and women.

          • Geo1metric

            It seems obvious to me that PC seeks to have people subscribe to the political orthodoxy of the left, that is to say, “group think” while economic marxism eliminates “class distinctions”.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            PC seeks to silence Whites who exercise traditional European morals such as sexual restraint and decency, controlling one’s violent impulses, loyalty to one’s spouse and family. We are supposed to be ashamed of our values, and are threatened with punishment if we speak truthfully about Negro degeneracy. PC is a reign of terror on White Americans with traditional moral values. We are publicly silenced so that Negro style degeneracy can take center stage.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            That has not been my impression. Political Correctness was one of Bill Clinton’s pathological obsessions, and was grounded in his obsession with there being no “them”, only “us”. Clinton is a White Guilt Monger who is infatuated with Negroids. I suspect he is motivated by a sexual attraction to Negresses, and that the sexual degeneracy of Black culture appeals to him, thus his desire to Brainwash American Whites into horrific Negro worship. His anti-White ideologies laid the foundation for Obongo taking office.

          • MBlanc46

            To have whites worshipping Negroes, if that’s the goal, requires both whites and Negroes.

          • Geo1metric

            BC bought into the “one world thesis” decades ago since he saw it as his ticket to power. It has worked beautifully for him.

            As to his attraction to Negro women, well, bill is attracted to anything wearing a skirt excepting, of course, a Scotsman, I suppose.

    • WR_the_realist

      We do in fact have cultural Marxism here. It is the religion of the elites. So despite the horrors of Soviet Communism there was one positive outcome — a significant swath of white nations have been kept away from cultural Marxism, at least up to now. But don’t forget for a moment that the U.S. government and Brussels are determined to bring cultural Marxism there, too.

      • MBlanc46

        So you assert. You don’t even attempt to give a definition of what cultural Marxism might be.

        • Simply put cultural marxism is anti-white ideology

          • MBlanc46

            Marxism has nothing to do with anti-whiteness.

          • I’ve simply reiterated what I’ve read ; Cultural Marxism: An offshoot of Marxism that gave birth to political correctness, multiculturalism and “anti-racism.” Cultural Marxism maintains that all human behavior is a result of culture (not heredity / race) and thus malleable. While traditional (economic) Marxists focused on class identity in racially homogenous countries (with poor results during WWI), Cultural Marxists facilitated the racial organization of non-whites, while simultaneously asserting that “race does not exist” for white people and that whites must deny all racial loyalties. Cultural Marxists typically support race-based affirmative action, the proposition state (as opposed to a nation rooted in common ancestry), elevating non-Western religions above Western religions, globalization and free trade, speech codes and censorship, multiculturalism, diversity training, anti-Western education curricula, maladaptive sexual norms, the dispossession of white people, and mass Third World immigration into Western countries. Cultural Marxists have promoted idea that white people, instead of birthing white babies, should interracially marry or adopt non-white children. Samuel P. Huntington maintained that Cultural Marxism is an anti-white ideology.

          • You’re right there but, cultural marxism is another animal almost entirely ..

          • MBlanc46

            My view is that there’s no such animal.

          • Google it . . for a refined explanation, I’m not
            a political scientist So my learning curve is steep ..
            but have at it Mel if you so desire ..

          • MBlanc46

            I know what people think they mean by it. Marxism takes class as the fundamental category in history. No view that takes other categories as fundamental–race or sex, for example–is a form of Marxism.

        • WR_the_realist

          Marxism emphasizes the interests of each economic class and the conflicts among those classes. Cultural Marxism replaces “economic class” with “race or ethnic group”. In particular, just as classical Marxism sees capitalists as the oppressor, cultural Marxists see white people as the oppressor. Classical Marxism looks forward to the dictatorship of the proletariat, cultural Marxism looks forward to the dictatorship of the non-whites.

          • MBlanc46

            If you “replace ‘economic class’ with ‘race or ethnic group’ [or sex, which is usually, incorrectly called gender]” it’s not Marxism of any sort.

          • WR_the_realist

            Nobody is claiming that Karl Marx invented cultural Marxism. But other Marxists did.

          • MBlanc46

            I don’t know who you have in mind, but when they ceased to take class as the fundamental category in human history, they ceased to be Marxists.

          • Geo1metric

            That’s fine; you stick to your guns. We, who can communicate well by using the phrase “cultural marxism”,
            will continue to communicate well since we know what it means to us. And we can effectively read the literature, which is everywhere, that also uses the phrase.

            You and J.E. can agree that such an animal does not exist.

          • MBlanc46

            I simply refuse to accept the Humpty-Dumpty theory of language.

          • Geo1metric

            I’m not familiar with that theory. Care to elucidate?

          • MBlanc46

            ‘And only one for birthday presents, you know. There’s glory for you!’

            ‘I don’t know what you mean by “glory”,’ Alice said.

            Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. ‘Of course you don’t — till I tell you. I meant “there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!”‘

            ‘But “glory” doesn’t mean “a nice knock-down argument”,’ Alice objected.

            ‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

            ‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

            ‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’

            Lewis Carroll, “Through the Looking-Glass”, chapter 6.

          • Geo1metric

            Ok, good. Now I remember. I’ve pointed out previously on this site that I do not change the traditional meanings of words in order to be politically correct. For example, I refuse to use the word “gay” to describe homosexuality, although that particular word is slowly becoming a “normal” word. I think some people follow the guideline that if a “word” appears in the “American Standard” dictionary, it’s a real “word”. Again, I refuse to use the term “chairperson” in lieu of chairman, and on and on. In that regard I’m a language “traditionalist”.

            Regardless of your Humpty-Dumpty story above, I’ll bet that if you work in academia, you do use the term “chairperson”, etc. .

            Nevertheless, as you well know, languages evolve.

            I have been seeing and hearing the term “cultural marxism” used in political discourse for at least the past twenty years. Upon first hear or reading the term, I had to discover how it was being used. Context helped.

            If you are a political scientist, or “purist” of some other sort, I can somewhat understand why you might take exception to the word “marxism” being used “incorrectly” as you understand it. As a scientist (albeit retired), I certainly understand the need for precision in scientific work, and precision in scientific language is of utmost important.

            Normal political discourse, in my world anyway, does not require scientific precision.

            So I say, destroy cultural marxism.

            But I am not a political scientist, nor am I an admirer of marxism.

          • MBlanc46

            I’m pretty much of a language traditionalist myself, and I try to be attentive to precision and historic meaning. In analysis, I find descriptive, non-rhetorical language preferable to cheap rhetoric. You’re absolutely right, “cultural Marxism” has wide currency, but not as description, but as pejorative rhetoric. The people who use it find “Marxism” disreputable and are trying to associate that negative quality with their opponents, even when those opponents share little or nothing with historical Marxism. As there are perfectly good descriptive terms for those opponents–general terms such as identity politics and multiculturalism, as well as more specific terms such as feminism and LGBT “rights”– I’d rather use those terms and debate their ideas on their merits than to call them names.

          • Geo1metric

            Fair enough.

          • MBlanc46

            Good. We can at least agree to disagree in our usage.

      • Socialism is the message, Marxism is the strategy and Fascism is the goal…

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        PC is cultural marxism indeed. Cultural Marxism is when the elites control the public discourse on culture, and attempt to shape culture to match their preferences. Those who dissent are silenced. This is exactly what we have presently in the West. Homosexuality, Permiscuity, Drug Use, and all immoral deviance is validated and glorified. Those of us who find these things immoral are expected to shut up and stomach the freak show, or we are thrown under the bus.

  • Bartek

    What exactly are you talking about? You can’t return when ever you want.
    It is harder now (EU)to get residency. Then when I was young (pre EU) and the individual countries were still sovereign. And even then it was almost impossible.
    People of the EU might be free to roam the EU but someone of European descent stuck with American citizenship isn’t.
    No disrespect, but I’m not talking about going on vacation.
    I certainly don’t see any ‘welcome mat’ rolled out for Americans by the Germans or Italians.
    The only two countries that have right of return that I am aware of is Russia and Poland. I believe Germany got rid of what they called ‘family reunification’ (and that only extended to 2nd generation w/guarantee of support).

    • Nevsky

      Do you know much blood you need to qualify for “right of return” in either Russia or Poland? I’m only one-eighth of each. Ireland is the only country where I have a significant amount of ancestry, and Ireland doesn’t seem that interested in taking back Irish-Americans.

      • Bartek

        I believe Poland’s is 25% (see: Polish embassy website). You would need a Polish lawyer, as most families of Polish descent in America left Poland during the Russian/German ‘partition’, which further complicates matters.
        Russia’s might be slightly more open, but I think it is also 25%, plus they seems to require fluency in Russian before they will permit the immigration.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          I don’t think that we need to, or should plan on just returning to the lands of our forebears. Mine came from Germany and Sweden at the turn of the century, settled in the Upper Midwest. My Grandparents spoke little English at home before starting school, but learned English well. They always spoke with pretty strong German/Scandinavian accents, with a sing-songy lilt, rounded vowels, and the obligatory “yah” that is still heard frequently in rural parts of the Midwest. Instead of ditching our homeland, we European Americans need to actively work to bring our brethren back into the fold in a cultural sense. I was aware of my cultural origins from being around older relatives as a boy. My Grandma loved listening to Jenny Lind, the great Swedish soprano, and Grandpa would speak with pride of J. S. Bach being German as he would put a record on, telling me “this is real music, son, not this rock n’ roll”, and didn’t restrain himself from expressing his disdain for Elvis, and the sexual permissiveness and lack of real musicianship in what he pointedly referred to as “Negro music”.

      • mobilebay

        Well, for not being too interested in taking back their people, Ireland doesn’t hesitate to push the US to grant citizenship to ITS people who are here. Like Mexico, they are hypocritical and three of my g-grandparents came from the Emerald Isle.

  • Ian Schmidt

    Svoboda allied themselves with Chechen terrorists against Russia and sent fighters over the Chechnya to fight Russia, many of whom committed vile atrocities. Not really a party we should look up to.

    • Nevsky

      I think it was Right Sector that actually did that, but your point still stands.

      • captainc

        that is really nationalistic move, make your enemies (neighbors) weak so that they are busy themselves internally and have no time to launch aggressions against you.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      If Svoboda is committed to preserving the heritage of Ukraine, maybe it needs to support a kick in the buttocks of the Putin regime. The clamp Mother Russia kept on the Islamist cess pools during the Commie Era was good. It’s treatment of European lands to the West, though, was repulsive. Nothing Pan-European about the abuse heaped on their Western neighbors.

  • Ian Schmidt

    Vona also mentioned that “some European countries and especially the
    nations of Asia still preserve a lot of the universal human traditions.
    This universal value base must be adjusted to and harmonized with the
    challenges of our age so that the power of the past and the challenges
    of the future create synergies instead of tensions.

    In order to build up such a value system and strategy we need to be able
    to integrate the essence of the European as well as the Asian
    mentality. The practical European and the profound Eastern approach need
    to shape us together. I can see three nations, countries that may be
    able to do so. The two great powers of Eurasia, Russia and Turkey, and
    my own homeland, Hungary. These three nations are European and Asian at
    the same time, due to their history, fate and disposition. These nations
    are destined to present the Eurasian alternative.”

    Huh?????? We should learn from these guys???

    • Bartek

      When one looks at the USA, UK, France, Sweden, etc. there better be an alternative.
      If not the genocide of Europe and Europeans is fait accompli.

  • Nevsky

    I have fantasies about moving to Europe, but I have a feeling that even in countries where I have blood times, a black Muslim Nigerian will have an easier time getting in than myself.

    • Mary

      Unbelievable, isn’t it? I’m of primarily British Isles ancestry myself, and I have no doubt that the government there would rather have someone such as you described, even destitute and criminal, rather than someone such as me. The sheer lunacy of this is really mind-boggling.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Mind boggling indeed!! Liberalism is a pathological mental health condition. Our ancestral homelands should be actively recruiting us to return, so as distance themselves from the American sinking ship that is multiculturalism, and have their borders sealed as tight as a drum against non-White immigrants

        • bilderbuster

          Yes White Americans should abandon the US to the Browns and return to Europe and help them seal their borders just like we have done here.

          • ThomasER916

            I think White Americans should burn non-White America to the ground. America only exists because of Whites. Turn non-White America into a Wasteland. They didn’t build it. Whites paid for all of it with taxes. They have no right to live there. In the Age of Treason our politicians are plotting our genocide. Take a $hit in the gift basket. We paid for it.

          • bilderbuster

            They might get the message if DC were torched.

          • 1stworlder

            Shut off food stamps and blacks will do it for us.

          • 1stworlder

            All we have to do is shut off the food stamps and the free stuff army will burn cities to the ground for us.

          • ThomasER916

            We should have militias to clean up the mess – utterly and completely. Go after the “civilized” professors, lawyers, NGO’s, Union Leaders and judges. The main strategy should be to eliminate the elite that enabled this so they cannot continue.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Indeed, that is true. I have Irish, English and Scotch-Irish ancestry from my mother, but all three of those countries would rather import the black and or Muslim hordes instead of someone like me. I am educated and I am a marine electrician, but that does not matter in the face of the Diversity Plague.

      • “Diversity Plague”

        Nicely put.

      • captainc

        That’s because admitting you back to ancestral land doesn’t make these countries look Jesus-like or Saint-like among other Western countries.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          True enough. Ultimately, for many of us, moving to our ancestor’s homelands is not an option. I for one would rather stand and fight for my land, because in Eastern Europe and in the British Isles I would be basically yet another “Amerikanski.”

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I agree Zaph. My Great Grandparents immigrated to this country. I was born here in the Midwest, and this is my home. The Negroids had the larger cities near me wrecked years ago, and they will only get worse with the Mestizo influx. Demographics is on our side in the rural areas and smaller towns, though, and I will not surrender my home to Negroids or Mestizos. I’m taking the Whitopia approach.

          • frank

            why do we leave for all the great cities founded by our European ancestors falling into the hands on the barbaric hoards, on the East Coast the cities have a big advantage no earthquakes no drought no fires and no tornadoes,all the great old buildings why let to the blacks the Asians and the Mexicans, why should we as ancestors of the great European founders of this great country run and run and hide in the woods while these animals take over the great institutions that our forefathers founded, remember it’s in our genes which made the Western Europeans go getters, we went out and took it , now we’re hiding and losing it…..

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      That is what I am afraid of as well, especially with Sweden. I am intensely proud of my Viking roots, but would want no part of the mess the Libtards are creating over there. I can’t stand the way Sweden has so many Libtards. They believe in everything that my Grandma detested with every ounce of her being. Gunnar Myrdal was an extremely naive man who has no business writing about a subject about which he knew absolutely nothing, that being the Negro race. Myrdal had probably never locked eyes with a Negro in his life. Anyone who has to deal with Negroes can see that his writings were fueled by balls to the wall Naïveté!!

    • 1stworlder

      The turks where bad in Germany back in the 90s I would hate to see how it is now.

  • Norseman

    Is this the speech that John Morgan gave at the AR conference last weekend?
    Are the other speeches available as well? I would be particularly interested in John Derbyshire’s.

  • Ian Schmidt

    This Jobbik party is absolutely awful on race:

    As a nationalist-patriotic party, Jobbik recognizes that Hungarians are the
    sole European nation with Asian roots and emphasizes the importance of
    brotherly ties with Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazahstan and other Turkic
    nations. Thus for Jobbik nationalism essentially entails Pan-Turanism.

    What the heck has John Morgan been smoking?

    • VladimirKnopka

      Would you be so kind as to tell us where you got that quote?

      • Ian Schmidt

        Why don’t you just copy the quote into google?

    • IstvanIN

      Yes, that is the troubling aspect of Jobbik, their idea that Hungarians are somehow more closely related to Turks, who have spent hundreds of years attempting to destroy Europe, rather than the Christian Europeans that they are.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Troubling indeed. I wish they’d focus on being related to the Finns and Estonians instead. As a Hungarian, what do you make of this thing that the Turkic tribes are supposedly related to the Hungarians?

  • Tarczan

    Darkies write novels?

  • Vague in a sense, yes. But I don’t see it as meaningless or nonsense. The Right/Left paradigm is completely outdated and just isn’t going to hold up very well when trying to battle the forces holding the reigns of power today. America is an entirely different animal than that which is in Europe.

    There are some things I don’t agree with in the article, but much more that I do agree with. At this very critical point in time, I’m not so much interested in the statements and opinions I don’t agree with as much as I am the ones I do agree with. From my perspective, I think that was part of the underlying message—find commonality and go beyond simple Right vs Left politics and rhetoric. I’ve been saying the same thing for years. Clearly someone who is entrenched in their own mode of thinking and convinced of their powers of persuasion is going to take away a different meaning when reading something like this.

  • newscomments70

    That was impressive. I assume the solos were sung by Russian celebrities. The only Russian singer I know of is Edita Pieha. She is older now and was not in the video. I wonder if her grandson, Stanislav, was singing.

  • Nevsky

    Good to hear about Ireland. Thanks.

  • Paulie Boy

    America was corrupt from the beginning, a bastard of the Enlightenment . America is the natural outcome of the universalism of the Enlightenment. That said, let’s stop fantasizing about returning to Europa. It is unrealistic but more importantly it is self-defeating. My ancestors fought and bled to conquer this place. It is mine and I will fight for it. Yes, reject the sick and depraved Americanism that has led to the contemporary u.s. and by extension western Europe. That is the beginning of renewal, recognizing that the u.s. is the real enemy of Western Civilization.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      I don’t think the US was corrupt from the very beginning. It worked best when all its members saw themselves as autonomous individuals, Anglo-Saxon ethnopatriots with a strong allegiance to the principles of constitutionalism and representative government. What happened was that during the 1960s, the bureaucratic apparatus of the state was hijacked by leftist totalitarians, divorced from its racial, genetic source and then used to make reality conform to multicultural ideology. The failure of America is not the result of her Anglo-Saxon constitutionalism, but because of her large non-white population, racial foreigners in our midst who are absolutely not biologically predisposed to individualism and cannot assimilate the cultural prerequisites that are essential for a successful free market and representative democracy. America is a failure because of (1) the multicultural extremism of her totalitarian elite and (2) the biological incompatibility of a large percentage of America’s population with the civilization of the white Anglo-Saxons.

  • Hal K

    I find it hard to become enthusiastic about the idea that I’m “white.”

    That is the author’s problem, and he ought to work on it. He seems to want to complicate things. He says we can’t save our race because we have no identity. Or we do have an identity, but he doesn’t like it. He says we need to change the culture before whites will want things to change. Great. How long will that take? The truth is that we need to go after what we want as directly as possible. There is a great potential for white identity politics in the U.S. and elsewhere, but it is being kept bottled up by the elites. Our task is to break through that, not to come up with the right “myths.” Guess what: If your new myth is explicitly pro white, the elites will not let it reach the public, and if it is not explicitly pro-white then it is useless anyway. Let’s get white identity politics into the mainstream and then let myth-makers write stories about it later.

    • Martel

      Blacks don’t have this problem, black intellectuals,political activists and grassroot activists are united across the world. Blacks in Holland were upset over Trayvon’s death, doesn’t this say it all?

      A shared ancestry in Africa unites them, like Europe should unite us.

      • Geo1metric

        There are, however, powerful forces, worldwide, working non-stop to keep Whites from coming together as a people.

        • Martel

          Naturally, without these forces, the world would look a lot different. But I do see previously never pursued options.

  • Just our luck. We can walk through a black neighborhood anyplace in the world and there is a good chance we will be killed solely because we are White and yet we can feel no pride or enthusiasm about being White because the term lacks pizzazz.

    In a world where a person can be a devout Catholic or Southern Baptist and still be a rabid fan of their local high school football team, surely some enthusiasm can be dredged up for being of European heritage. There is nothing contradictory about being a proud traditional Frenchman, for example, and also being equally proud of the overall accomplishments of Europeans/Whites. Whites, or people of European heritage, have rarely had the need for such solidarity before because we were not being relentless demographically eliminated.

    On Islam, I believe it is extremely naive to think of the problem as being only the “radical” Muslims. This is one of the central clashes of world civilizations that has been going on for centuries. Yes, Islam opposes liberalism and to them all of Western civilization is liberalism.

    Working on the myths, the stories, the symbols of the West, I say, yes, go for it. For one thing, I would love to see some brilliantly done pro-Western graphic novels aimed squarely at our young people. However, all this sounds suspiciously like something that will take generations, which will be pretty late in the game. By then we will probably be in our South African-like end stage. Nothing against White South Africans. I consider you my brothers and sisters. Fight on! And it seems to me that the South African struggle, and how we might help, should be dealt with more often at AmRen.

    • ThomasER916

      The radical Muslim is not the problem, they’re the most visible symptom of the problem, like the Hasidim organ traffickers, drug dealers, slum lords, and harborers of illegals. Postville Iowa was home to a Kosher agriprocessors plant. It’s also the site of the largest illegal immigration raid in US History.

      The symptoms are not the problem.

      • If you are robbed, rape, killed or displaced by one of the symptoms, it is a problem.

        • ThomasER916

          The problem is non-Whites and Islam. Remove them and the symptoms disappear, like removing a thorn the festering and pain will fade along with it.

    • Anna Tree

      I wrote you an answer two days ago, with a link to an article on amren but it still doesn’t show up for whatever reason, I wish the moderator could explain… In brief:

      Check James Kirkpatrick’s The Birth of Prudence, there is an article about this book on Amren, see March 30 2014.

      But indeed, something like The Hunger Games or the Twilight serie would be great. Also why not poems like La Fontaine’s who used animal characters, to criticize the despots and corrupts of his time. Mr. Jared Taylor, to you pens 🙂

  • FeuerSalamander

    Quite a different approach than playing the game of the genteel intellectual discussion where some statements are “moderated”.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      I can see Engelman being jeered in Hungary and Ukraine for his Asian supremacy ideations. He would want Turks moving to both countries en masse, as he believes, foolishly, that Asians can live side by side with Whites with zero conflict. He would be well served to read about how the Asiatic Turks have treated the Caucasian, Orthodox Christian Armenians, and how well Turkey and Greece have traditionally gotten along. Turkey is much better than Egypt or Saudi Arabia, but it is surely not a part of Europe.

  • FeuerSalamander

    ….”Off to one side of the hall, next to a Christmas tree,…” Well, THAT simply WON’T do, these people MUST be NAZIS (sarc)

  • FeuerSalamander

    We need things such as a new comic book hero who identifies as white and who fights for whites. Every story can have a character identified as one of the various white ethnic groups or a mixture thereof and have the history and achievements of that ethnic group championed while the character faces persecution at the hands of blacks, browns, and liberals. Look how “Superman” became part of American consciousness. WE need to get our story out there , we need to capture the minds of the youth.

    • Anna Tree

      So true! As I wrote to tma_Sierrahills above, James Kirkpatrick’s The Birth of Prudence is a nice start.

      But something like The Hunger Games would be great. Even using whites and vampires as an allegory like in the Twilight serie… Or for the younger, why not poems like French poet La Fontaine’s who used animal characters, to criticize the despots and corrupts of his time.

      Maybe Mr. Jared Taylor’s next adventure!

      • ThomasER916

        Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll be buying and reading that book.

  • Well, the Eastern Europeans may be able to teach us something – but I am sure what has happened to Western Europe will be a much greater lesson for Eastern Europeans to learn and prevent.

    • IstvanIN

      If they learn, there are black elected officials in Poland and Lithuania.

      • ThomasER916

        Yep. The great irony is their new found freedom success is bringing in the non-White parasites.

  • John R

    I got about halfway through the article, which is quite long. I will only comment on one thing mentioned. He said that “The Iron Curtain kept out Cultural Marxism…” That to me seems like a funny statement to make. My take? As I said before on this website, Communist propaganda is crude. It is only designed to give people a reason to justify kneeling before the all powerful totalitarian state. It is really not designed to convince anyone of anything.

    Liberalism, operating in a traditional free society like America, had a harder job to do: To convince people to give up their rights and to accept things that were not in their best interests. You think I am exaggerating? Suppose a politician ran on a platform to abolish all racial quotas and so-called affirmative action? The very fact that he would have to sell this idea, which would benefit about 70% of the voters shows how well the liberals have convinced most Whites that they should be ashamed of supporting their own interests.

    Cultural Marxism is weaker in Eastern Europe only because the Cultural Marxists, relying on coercion, got lazy.

    • jeffaral

      The easiest way to convince someone is through terror. American cultural Marxism is very civilized when compaired to crude communism in eastern Europe.

  • Hal K

    The culture is not our most immediate problem. Our most immediate problem is the anti-whiteness of our elites and their willingness to deprive anyone who speaks out of his or her livelihood. Kevin MacDonald has said that if the pro-white side was given access to the mainstream media then we could turn things around very quickly. I think there is something to that. We need to find a way to become immune to this ability of the elites.

    • The hostile media isn’t going away. You have to leverage what you have vs what you already know they have and the methods they will use. We know what they are thinking. We know what direction they will push toward. We know the verbiage and semantics they use. We can predict everything they will incorporate into their rhetoric and policies. They cover themselves with it from head to toe, so we have to learn to use that predictability and find the chinks in the armor.

      Think of the purchasing power or collective[group] buying power that even a few dozen people working in unison could generate. We all play the same little game every single day. We complain about the system; we complain about not having a voice; we complain about the media; we complain about this business or that business being anti-White; blah blah blah. But most of us then turn right around and fork over $$$$$ to keep these same institutions and mechanisms well oiled and running smoothly. While some of us are more guilty than others, the cumulative effect is felt by all of us in the same way.

      What’s needed are more proposed solutions, more opinions, more direct questions, more risks by stepping out of personal comfort zones, and much less complaining, finger pointing and spinning wheels trying to make failed ideas and tactics work.

      • Hal K

        I was primarily talking about the ability the hostile elite has of getting someone fired. If they didn’t have this power then it would be easier to get our message into the mainstream. This is the problem with the thinking of the author. He thinks the problem is broad and deep, but actually it is thin, but effective. Boycotts don’t amount to much if the elites are on the opposing side. I agree, however, that we need to find positive ways to channel our time, energy, and financial resources.

    • Anna Tree

      I see the white race as a human body. We are attacked by unregulated cell growth and our own immune system is confused, targeting the good cells…

      • Hal K

        It is like a disease. Fjordman called it cultural AIDS. The original problem came from within, but now the main problem comes from without.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Open your eyes my friend. White kids have been worshiping at the altar of Black culture for quite a few years now. The Negro worship has grown steadily more intense, and saying no to Negro worship grows ever more unpopular for White youth. This Black culture worship opens the door for miscegenation, and for Whites welcoming their own dispossession.

  • Anna Tree

    No, I think it doesn’t at all. I think consumerism is another liberal leftist dogma and it comes with multi-culturalism and multi-racialism. Consumerism is a slavery of the masses, and the ones selling their things to us need slaves, a lot of slaves, always more slaves to buy those things, and that means bringing immigrants because the whites started to prefer to spend their money to buy things over spending it on having kids.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      I agree. Consumerism plus Negro culture worship being pushed by the elites has equalled the vapid mentality of far too large a segment of White America. Without consumerism, Whites would not accept a talentless, Braying Negroid such as Beyonce as an example of talent, and make her into a Millionaire.

  • Raymond Kidwell

    I have worked on something like this. You need your own religious/cultural identity as a diaspora- much like modern Jews. Attaching to a nation state doesn’t work well. But besides this in East Europe you have an identity. In the West you have people saying they hate negros, hate Jews etc. It’s all based on hate and insulting the other. That lacks any substance and the people that shout that they hate n***rs turn away any normal people. How many people camping out in Ukraine are doing so because of Jews, Blacks, Liberals etc.? They do it for their own people and their own loyalty. That is the problem I have with this site and others is that it confuses a desire to preserve whites or our culture with hatred of others, insulting, intimidating others, trying to draw the attention of law enforcement, portray one’s self as a criminal or “evil nazi” there are far too many absurd people in the WN movement and its tolerated too much on the websites. People should be asked to behave in a more civilized manner.

    Of course when you have people that spend most of their time talking about how they want to kill Jews and negros of course their meetings are going to have more protestors than supporters. For the life of me I can’t understand why anyone would act that way other than to say they are trashy people who want to blame others for their own failures. What is needed is a unique cultural/religious identity separate from others and a focus on the accomplishments of one’s own group rather than obsession over some outside group and how much you hate them.

    And with my own work I just call it “Hraftzerism”, but it focuses a lot on Germanic and Western culture and history. There is a bedrock literature that defines it. And people who join it can partake in an ethno-genesis of sorts. Other people could make their own similar identities and at some point similar groups could merge or unite in some way if it made sense to do so. But there should be some kind of clearly defined history, clearly defined cultural customs and beliefs etc. A person would have to write a book and create a name for it. Otherwise its too abstract to rally around.

    • rasher223

      I agree with you whole heartedly.

      I’ve been banned from “other” websites for expressing that opinion.

      I really think that focus on “self” and not on the flaws of “others” is the way to go. You’re MUCH more likely to draw in larger crowds that way.

      Still though it’s nice being able to draw in lots of people with that Grrr attitude.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Excellent article!!!! This is what I’ve been saying all along. Culture is key. Eastern Europeans are more culturally European at this point. Things like enjoying Listening to Bach or Mozart, or reading Whitman or Thoreau, are not small in the least. They are the bricks which build the foundation of our European Cultural Identity, and put our hearts and minds in touch with our European Genetic inheritance. Our gene pool is the core, of course, the prerequisite which must be in place, the concrete slab which must be there for us to lay the bricks of our cultural identity. The Concrete slab is a racially pure White race. The present problem in White North America is that, too often, the concrete slab contains an African mud hut. Rebuilding our identity in White America starts with White Americans not buying albums by untalented Negroids like Beyonce. White Americans should be supporting the careers of talented artists, not feathering the nests of Braying, talentless Negroids like Beyonce. Being Cuturally European is where White Identity starts.

    • Ádám Ferenczy

      Hungary is not Eastern European country.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Central European maybe?? I’m American, so please pardon my ignorance on this subject. Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Slovenia, Austria as Central Europe, a European core area?? Would we include Germany as well?

        • Ádám Ferenczy

          What is Western Civilization?
          The
          earliest mention of Western civilization “Occidental civilis”
          After
          the Great Schism (The East-West Schism /formally in 1054/, between
          Western Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christianity.) Hungary
          determined itself as the easternmost bastion of Western civilisation
          (This statement was affirmed later by Pope Pius II who wrote that to
          Emperor Friedrich III, “Hungary is the shield of Christianity and
          the protector of Western civilization”)
          It is not a secret in
          history, that countries civilizations are/were not in the same level
          of development.
          It is well-known that Western and Central Europe,
          ( the so-called Western civilization) was always more developed than
          Orthodox Slavic or Eastern European civilization.
          The cultural the
          societal-system and the economical civilizational (and technological)
          differences between Orthodox countries and Western Christian
          (Catholic-Protestant) countries were similar great, as the
          differences between Northern America (USA Canada) and Southern-
          (Latino) America.

          MEMENTO:
          Western things which were not
          existed in orthodox world:

          1.Medieval appearance of parliaments (a legislative body(!),
          DO NOT CONFUSE with the “councils of monarchs” which existed
          since the beginning of human history),
          2. Knights, the
          knight-culture and the technological effects of crusades from the
          Holy Land,
          3.The self-government status of big royal/imperial
          cities, (local government systems of cities), which is the direct
          ancestor of modern self/local governmental systems.
          4. The
          appearance of stone / brick castle defense system and fortified
          cities. (In Orthodox world only Byzantine empire had such an
          extensive system in Greek territories)
          5. The medieval appearance
          of banking systems and social effects and status of urban
          bourgeoisie, the absolute dominance of money-economy (when the vast
          majority of trade based on money and the taxes customs duties were
          collected in money) from the 12th -13th century, instead
          of the former primitive bartel-based commerce (barter dominated the
          economies orthodox world until the 17-18th
          centuries.)
          6.The medieval appearance of universities and the
          medieval appearance of secular intellectuals,
          7.Philosophy:
          Scholasticism and humanist philosophy,
          8.The medieval usage of
          Latin alphabet and medieval spread of movable type printing,
          9.The
          medieval western theater: Mystery or cycle plays, morality and
          passion plays,
          10.The western architecture, sculpture paintings
          and fine-arts: the Romanesque style, the Gothic style and the
          Renaissance style.

          The orthodox church buildings and „palaces(?)” were very
          little, they had primitive structure and poor decorations, their
          style were influenced by non-European arabic and persian influenced
          ornamentics.

          11.The defence systems & fortifications: The spread of stone
          castle defense -systems, the town-walls of western cities from the
          11th century. (In the orthodox world, only the capital
          cities had such a walls , The countries of the Balkan region and the
          territory of Russian states fell under Ottoman/Mongolian rule very
          rapidly – with a single decesive open-field battle – due to the
          lack of the networks of stone/brick castles and fortresses in these
          countries. The only exception was the greek inhabited Byzantine
          territories which were well fortified.)

          The renaissance & humanism , the reformation and the
          enlightenment did not influenced/affected the Orthodox (Eastern
          European) countries.
          Before 1870, the industrialization that had
          developed in Western and Central Europe and the United States did not
          extend in any significant way to the rest of the world. In Eastern
          Europe, industrialization lagged far behind, and started only in the
          20th century.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    What about Germany or Sweden??

  • ThomasER916

    Whites used to be in space, building a future for the all of humanity, and advancing at a pace unknown in all of human history.

    That was before the Culture of Critique and the Immigration Act of 1965. Now Whites are unemployed, over-taxed, and terrified of being called “racist.” NASA is a Muslim apology tour. Why? Because everything White is now part of the Grievance Industry (Shoah).

    Whites don’t work to improve their lives or built a better world. Whites work to support their genocide. Everywhere there’s another “program” to siphon White labor to non-Whites. The system is anti-White.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      The “all of humanity” kind of rhetoric is what has brainwashed So many Whites to rejoice in our dispossession. I always cringe when I hear folks refer to “the human race”. There is no such thing as the human race. There are races of humans, though, that our creator placed on separate continents. Logic dictates that the different races were placed on different continents because they were meant to remain distinct, and meant to remain separated.

      • ThomasER916

        I agree but it does illustrate that when Whites act for themselves that non-Whites capable of living in a modern, White world of their own benefit. When Whites act for non-Whites, everyone (especially Whites) suffers.

        For the White race, and all of our tribes and ethnic groups, it’s best when we ignore all other races pleas, complaints, and accusations to act in our racial self-interest. When we do this there are no more limits on our greatness. When White we concern ourselves with non-Whites and their foreign nations we hold ourselves down for the Turd World trash. We suffer and diminish as their trash heap of a race grows.

        Whites have been everywhere. We have no limits. Non-Whites have latched on like parasites and vermin. Let’s just tell it like it is. We have never needed them. They need us. The sooner we rid ourselves of them the sooner we’ll be exploring other realms where they’ll never follow. The key is to build on ourselves culturally and religiously, that our identity, our worship, our God is our own so that we’ll never need to consider the “moral preaching” of other people except to identify our enemies and their plans.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Very well written! Good old Abe Lincoln wanted to send all of the Negroids back to Africa, as he believed firmly that the Negroids are too different from us to live amongst us. Bringing them here was America’s worst mistake. If we had sent all of them back as Lincoln wanted, we would still be the greatest country on earth.

          • Geo1metric

            Perhaps America’s worst mistake was the establishment of the Fed.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    The erosion of cultural underpinnings everywhere but Down South is indeed a crock. When I visited the South, I was floored at the number of White women Mudsharking with Negroes, far more than here in the Midwest, or in the Northeast. Too many Southerners seem infatuated with Negroes. There are also a lot of Whites with AmerIndian blood, and who are all too infatuated with the Injuns. They seem to have forgotten that, just a few generations ago, they ripped our scalps off if we didn’t shoot first.

  • captainc

    Your forefathers fought for a promised land and now you are abandoning it like cowards, what does that tell you? My son is afraid of his own Negro?

    • Bartek

      Not afraid of the Negro, just see the writing on the wall (you know, the writing in Hebrew).

  • Jon

    I still believe that Eastern Europe will inherit the European Continent because England and Western Europe has given up. Eastern Europe is family oriented and while i am not a Christian but if their faith can revive those countries where they want more kids then I say go for it. The idea of the Iron Curtain keeping out the poisons of the west does make sense and Japan and China for a very long time had Racial and cultural protectionism in place. Hence the Great wall and that is what America needs what Racial and cultural protectionism not economic because that only benefited the rich. If white move to Eastern Europe then i hope they rebuild all of E.E. in to a great place and then spread westward but it will be a hard fought battle since Islam and the Africans are given a free ride as well as other 3rd world people.

    • Anna Tree

      I hope the British, Germans etc will wake up and save their heritage, but I presume your vision can become a reality.

      I think Eastern Europe will preserve and continue the white culture better than the Chinese, but the historical (cultural, political, social, artistic etc) differences between Western and Eastern Europe have also a biological/genetic basis.

      (My computer crashed… I had another point but can’t remember it anymore, sorry).

      • Jon

        I am not pro-China and was saying that they preserve their culture at all cost for the most part but yes if the Great European empires had not fallen or more importantly gotten involved in the slave trade the would still be with us today or more developed. Spain and Portugal declined because of the African slave trade but many of their of nations they built still flourish. If E.E stays strong then i do believe they and could leave us into the next few centuries but only time will tell. Stay Strong Eastern Europe.

  • Bartek

    The UK is worse than the USA, why go there?

  • ThomasER916

    The Cultural Marxists are now pushing a new strategy. I suspect it won’t last too long if we in America and Western Europe gets our crap together. I will also say another thing. We must wipe out the Culture of Critique completely for doing this. Hunt them down, every man, woman, and child.

    We’re living in the Age of Treason.

  • Norseman

    Thanks Anna!

  • Geo1metric

    “The White South Africans do not have any connection to the US.”

    Wrong. They have a clear, distinct, direct connection to every White person in the US.

  • 1stworlder

    Does Germany still have the blood return laws, where if you speak German, know German history, and have german blood you can return?

  • Geo1metric

    Beautiful!

    • BulgAryan

      So are most racially aware comments below the original YouTube posting 🙂

  • Anna Tree

    If think it is because you don’t take welfare/affirmative action etc into consideration… Decent people are the one working, paying for the consumption of everybody, even the lazy ones. Consumerism enslaved us all, because liberal leftism has pushed the limits of what the masses can afford, by having the middle-class subsidize all.

  • dd121

    It’s ironic that Eastern Europe is trying to emulate the economic success and institutions we had 60 years ago and we’re trying to duplicate the radical leftism of the old Soviet Union. The Gods toy with us.

  • Nathan Durhing

    In the USA, the person most likely to marry outside their race is an Asian female with a white male.

  • rasher223

    Alot of these uprisings recently are because of economic misery and hopelessness.

    I guarantee you once these “New Right” countries gain the stability they seek they’ll turn the other cheek when they see a negro or a muslim walking down the street until it gets to the point that those negros and muslims out number them.

    Sad as it may be…

  • rasher223

    Has anyone ever considered another strategy?

    The internet has given us all alot of power because the government has no control of information. Sure they do to an extent, one click on youtube and you see on the front page silly youtube channels of people acting goofy for money, likely there to draw minds away from itself (the government.)

    What about playing off the mishaps of those third worlders? We all know they have many problems that they’re struggling to deal with. Alot of those problems are government related. Perhaps whispering thoughts into their heads that furthers our agenda would be a beneficial strategy? Sort of like a sheep herder herding the sheep. Maybe we could use them as puppets to throw out this government so that we can take that opportunity to act.

    We have one goal. To preserve our race/protect our future.

    There are MANY paths to this goal. Not one. It’s not a linear path to reach that goal. There are many ways to get there. Lets consider everything. And discuss which route is the best.

    Thus far, we’ve tried to send a message that angers people and eventually recruits new people. But that’s slow…and ineffective. Sure it might have worked in the past, but things are different these days. Current governments do ALOT more than you think to block a “New Right” from emerging and claming power. Social media is a powerful tool. Use it. Indeed words aren’t stronger than actions, but as history has proven, words leads to actions eventually. You just have to go at it at the right angle considering the new age and technological advances.

  • Charlie

    Actually, Capitalism is the culprit in the lack of ethnic and cultural awareness in both Western Europe and America…