Jury Reaches Partial Verdict in Florida Killing Over Loud Music

Lizette Alvarez, New York Times, February 16, 2014

After four days of deliberation, the jury in the racially tinged trial of Michael Dunn, a Florida man who set off another firestorm over the state’s self-defense laws when he shot a teenager to death in a parking lot during a dispute over loud music, said it could not agree on whether Mr. Dunn had acted to protect himself or was guilty of murder.

The jurors did find Mr. Dunn guilty of three counts of second-degree attempted murder for getting out of his car and firing several times at the Dodge Durango sport utility vehicle in which Jordan Davis, 17, was killed. Three other teenagers, the subjects of the attempted murder charges, were in the car but were not struck. Mr. Dunn continued to fire at the vehicle even as it pulled away. On the attempted murder convictions, he could be sentenced to 60 years in prison.

Judge Russell L. Healey of Duval County declared a mistrial on the count of first-degree murder, which applied only in the death of Mr. Davis. The jury also failed to reach agreement on lesser charges that are automatically included in jury instructions. Those were second- and third-degree murder and manslaughter.

The state attorney for Jacksonville, Angela Corey, said immediately after the verdict that she planned to retry Mr. Dunn on first-degree murder. Ms. Corey said she hoped jurors would explain why they could not agree on that charge, which could help her team in the new trial.

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The case was steeped in racial overtones. Mr. Dunn, 47, is white, and the teenagers black. It also drew renewed attention to Florida’s expansive self-defense laws that allow people who say they feel threatened to use lethal force to protect themselves. The trial began six months after the verdict in another high-profile case that focused on race, in which George Zimmerman was acquitted in the fatal shooting of a black teenager, Trayvon Martin.

The 12 jurors, who had been sequestered since Feb. 6, consisted of four white men, four white women, two black women, one Hispanic man and one Asian-American woman. Some black leaders expressed disappointment that there were no black men on the jury.

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The prosecutors had argued that Mr. Dunn did not shoot Mr. Davis in self-defense, as he testified. He shot him, they said, because he was enraged that when he asked the teenagers to turn down the music booming from their vehicle in a gas station parking lot—Mr. Dunn described it to his fiancée as “thug music”—Mr. Davis did not do so and then cursed him repeatedly.

Mr. Dunn, who was visiting from out of town, left the scene and did not call 911 or the police after the shooting. Instead, he returned to his hotel, and the next morning drove two and a half hours to his home in Brevard County. The prosecutors said his behavior did not jibe with the actions of a man who had fired in self-defense. They also argued that Mr. Dunn had had enough time to reflect before shooting, which was why they accused him of premeditated murder.

Coming on the heels of the failure to convict Mr. Zimmerman in July, the verdict was a blow to Ms. Corey, who was the special prosecutor in the Zimmerman case.

“The verdict won’t sit well with the black community in Jacksonville,” said Ken Jefferson, a vice president for Operation Save Our Sons, a group that tries to help young men in Jacksonville, where blacks make up 30 percent of the population. “There is a feeling of being able to shoot black people and get away with it,” he said, particularly after the Zimmerman case.

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Mr. Dunn, who testified on Tuesday, told jurors that Mr. Davis had pointed a shotgun at him from the window of the Durango, threatened to kill him and then tried to get out of the car. It was only then, Mr. Dunn said, that he reached into his glove box, unholstered his 9-millimeter pistol, put a round in the chamber, and fired 10 times.

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The prosecutors argued that Mr. Dunn had fabricated his story about the shotgun to bolster his self-defense claim. The police never found a shotgun, and no witnesses ever reported seeing one. The teenagers testified that none of them had a shotgun in the car. That was why no one shot back at Mr. Dunn, the prosecutors said.

The trial, which lasted six days before deliberations began on Wednesday, was the latest courtroom test for Florida’s expansive self-defense statutes, including the so-called Stand Your Ground provision. Under the law, Mr. Dunn needed only to have been convinced that he saw a shotgun, whether or not one was present.

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In what prosecutors called a “wow” trial moment, the fiancée, Rhonda Rouer, shaking on the witness stand, said that Mr. Dunn had not mentioned to her in the night and day they spent together before his arrest that any of the teenagers had a shotgun. Ms. Rouer was inside the gas station convenience store when the shooting occurred.

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  • richard garyson

    I feel terrible for Mr. Dunn. I believe he was telling the truth and felt legitimately threatened. So did at least one juror, which is why the jury was hung on the murder charge; however, in the eyes of the law, he went too far by firing too many rounds at those who were not threatening him.

    It is a shame he wasn’t a reader of AmRen, Vdare, SBPDL, or TakiMag; otherwise, he would have known better than to say anything to those teens, in the first place.

    A lack of racial awareness has cost him his freedom forever. What a waste……….

    • Nancy Thomas

      Yes, the man obviously felt threatened and I believe there was a gun. The thugs had plenty of time to get rid of the gun or guns and all of the contraband they no doubt had in the SUV, and that is why they didn’t call 911 right away. Also, the witnesses are mostly felons and friends of the man who got shot. I don’t think any of them were credible. Dunn should never have said anything to those thugs, as others here have mentioned. It’s also very suspicious that the only two trials to be televised in the MSM have involved “evil racist white men killing innocent black children”.
      Tell me the mainstream media isn’t anti-white.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Berserker

        Instead of weapons and drugs, the cops probably found bibles and skittles.

      • Ron Cheaters

        Is there any toxicology report of the vanload of darkies?

    • Keep Honkin, I’m Reloading

      There’s only so much kneegrow fatigue a man can take.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        I remember that movie, but can not recall the title.

        • Keep Honkin, I’m Reloading

          Falling Down.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            Thank you very much! I just wrote it down in my notebook. It was terribly sad, but very good.

            I also fell.

          • Nathanwartooth

            Just ordered it on DVD from Amazon.

            Micheal, a smart guy like you shouldn’t be supporting Hollywood any more than you have to.

            Learn to be like our Somalian friends and set sails on the high seas!

          • seapeaMP

            Or just set anchor in the Pirate Bay.


            “Diversity” is a code word for White Genocide.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            I order only the movies I like. Yes, that industry is an awful PC mess, but what about movies like “Breaker Morant”, “Behind the Lines”, “Paths of Glory” or “Gallipoli”? My daughter is partial to the “Wallace & Gromit” shorts; so am I.

          • John R

            I love “Death Wish II” with Charles Bronson. As close as ANY Hollywood movie has got to showing blacks, and the Whites accompanying them, for what they are. In my view, even BETTER than the original.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            I do too, and I live Death Wish 3 even better. You really have to be vengeful to be shooting gang bangers with a Wildey Magnum, LOL.

          • John R

            Yes, that one was
            good, too. But the reason that I prefer DW II is because it is more obvious
            with social messages:

            1. All of the
            criminals are black, or Whites who hang out with blacks. (Modern day
            Commancheros, perhaps?)

            2. Scenes of
            blacks attacking a White couple, and the ravenous black man taunting the middle
            aged White husband, saying “It will be good!” Not since Birth of a
            Nation has Negro depravity been so well illustrated.

            3. The blacks
            talking about Kearsey’s daughter, and their White cohort saying “she can
            finger us all” and they reply “we all look the same to Whitey.”

            4. The scene
            where one of the black thugs stands up on a bus, and gets out his spray paint,
            and starts tagging the bus! Damn! Such obvious racial commentary, I am
            surprised they got away with THAT scene!

            5. Back to the
            anti-liberal commentary. Kearsy’s fiancé (real life wify, btw) is interviewing
            an obvious portrayal of a liberal politician who says “Why do we kill
            people, who kill people, to show that killing is wrong?” All said with
            that loving liberal smile. At the same time, the scene is interspersed with a
            scene showing the thugs raping Kersey’s housekeeper, and killing his daughter.

            6. Finally, one
            last one: The therapist, who, is going to make one of the killers “a
            little angel” (Kersey’s words) and going to prepare him to “resume
            his place in society” (the liberal judge’s words), is asked by
            Kersey “where’s the men’s room” and he is too stupid to give accurate directions!
            Funny!

            Yes, Death Wish Three
            did have more action, but you can see why I personally liked two more, as a
            race realist. Thank you for your comment.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Indeed, you are right about the memes in Death Wish 2, which are unfortunately true. Especially the one about the black depravity. I loved it how they misdirect the police away from the Kersey character. We should refuse to help the police capture a white avenging the death of loved ones at the hands of darkies or non-whites period. I actually had chance to check out a Wildey Magnum and a .44 Automag too in person, the one made famous by Clint Eastwood. Both really would literally tear a man apart, but I found them so heavy and impossible to cock. Nice gun for movies, not in real life unless I’m in bear country. Both would drop a 1,200 pound grizzly.

          • John R

            Death Wish 3 DID have ONE good race realist line, in reference to the gun you just mentioned: “This is a Wildey 475(?) Magnum” says Kersey. “Is that like a 44 Magnum?” replies his friend. “No. A 44 Magnum is a pistol cartridge, but a 475 is a shorter version of THE AFRICAN BIG GAME CARTRIDGE!” LMAO! Gee. What kind of “African big game” do they have in New York? Another line that I am surprised they got away with.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            That is literally true, the cases for both the Wildey and the Automag are cut down rifle cases, require rifle primers and are loaded to rifle like pressures too. That is how they can take down a charging Grizzly bear, lion or any other big and dangerous animal.

          • John K

            Dirty Harry sure knew how to deal with them.

      • Boris McGuffin

        Great movie. Love the part where, after he’s been blowing away LA degenerates all morning, he tells the Korean storekeeper:

        I’m having a rare day.

        • blight14

          The country club fairway scene was rather nifty too!!!

    • 1gravity

      No one on this website knows who was telling the truth. The bottom line is that modern day America presents a judicial climate in which whites often have to retreat from blacks. It is indeed better to be judged by twelve than carried by six; but it is much better not to be judged by twelve either.

  • IstvanIN

    Angela Corey is the prosecutor? Now I KNOW he is innocent.

    • Nancy Thomas

      You are not the only one who has noticed this….

    • striket3

      Yeah I saw that the other day too. What a complete waste of space that thing is.

    • SouthronKittie

      She’s a wicked witch

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Probably like this witch I daresay.

  • sbuffalonative

    Two hotheads got into a disagreement over manners in public.

    As obnoxious as Mr. Davis was behaving, Mr. Dunn should have left Mr. Davis alone. Mr. Davis would have found his end at the hands of one of his brothas soon enough.

    • seapeaMP

      But how many others might have found their end by Mr. Davis’ hand before that date. Who knows how many lives Mr. Dunn might have saved by ending Mr. Davis’.


      “Diversity” is the codeword, Genocide the method, Extinction the goal.

      • sbuffalonative

        As far as I know, Mr. Jordan didn’t have a gun. If he did, the defense would have produced it. It all came down to a perceived threat, not an actual threat.

        Other than being an obnoxious lout who arrogantly blasted music in public without regards to people around him, he wasn’t a treat. He sounds like a typical black guy full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

        I see blacks and Hispanics blast their stereos in the summer. It’s obnoxious but I’m not going to risk dying or going to jail to fight with a black or Hispanic over obnoxious behavior.

        I’ll defend myself and my family but if I confronted every black or Hispanic who was acting like a loud-mouth creep in public, I wouldn’t make it to the end of the day.

        Choose your battles wisely and efficiently.

        If the person lives in your neighborhood or you can follow them home without them noticing, you might have other opportunities. I once followed a group of blacks one night with the suspicion they were drug dealers (I was right). I gave the intel to the police and the house was raided and the 3 guys arrested.

        • John R

          And how do you KNOW that he did not have a gun? Oh, the NEWS MEDIA told you that, right? Yeah, and of course, we all know that they are TOTALLY UNBIASED, and would NEVER embellish a story to suit their ends, huh? (Rodney King beating, Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse case, Trayvon Martin shooting, yeah, right.)

          • sbuffalonative

            You’re right. I can only go by what the media and the police tell me.

            If you read my posts, you know I’m very skeptical of the media.

            However, I would find it nearly impossible to believe that he had a gun and no one, not the media or the press let it slip. They may try to hide it be someone who is sympathetic to Dunn would have made it known.

            Dunn only said, ‘he thought he saw a gun’.

            If Davis had a gun, do you believe Dunn’s lawyer wouldn’t have presented that fact in court?

            I’m sure you don’t read all my post and I wouldn’t expect you to but I have a strong suspicion of the press and the police. I have had personal experience with both and I know how they operate.

            While I would like to support Mr. Dunn, he’s the type of person who makes whites look bad. He’s the type of guy who gives blacks and their apologists ammunition to use against us.

            Dunn will be used to vilify whites for years to come.

          • John R

            Up until the Trayvon Martin Case, I would have agreed with you. But now I have even more skepticism about just how far the media will lie to push their agenda.

  • Romulus

    “Black leaders express disappointment that there were no black men on the jury”

    Of course they were. Blacks are entitled to a racial consciousness that is now denied whites by the very judicial system white men created. The more black representation in the system, the more favorable outcomes for blacks, period.
    Terrible shame the yoofs didn’t have a shotgun. Yet,Mr Dunn would probably have still have been charged even if they did.

    • Nancy Thomas

      They ditched the shotgun, along with the 9 and the .38 and the .357. I bet each one of them had a gun.

      • Romulus

        Quite possibly. Yet still so many whites can’t see the proof of the cultural and national takeover of their country even right before our eyes.
        The left is making no secret now of their intentions.
        Neither should we.

        • T.J. Jackson

          You hit the nail on the head ..

          • Romulus

            It just goes to prove the enormous power of “America’s” media to shape thought and opinion.
            Besides standing up for our indispensable right (the 2nd) essential to freedom from a commie police state, it is my mission to awaken our people. I spend a considerable amount of time trying to connect the dots for whoever wishes to listen.

  • Lewis33

    You want a quick way to figure how many white on black murders there are per year? Just check the front page of the NYT, the few a year are always there. As someone else said, its the only time they have crime reports in their paper at all.

    • Nancy Thomas

      Well, they have to keep the black community well informed of the constant danger of racist angry white men who generally have nothing better to do with their time than shoot innocent black teenagers. I expect that soon the black community will be calling for mass executions of all whites, since Emperor Oprah has already said something to that effect.

    • Nancy Thomas

      Yeah, they conveniently ignore the poor white Knockout Game victims and the thousands of white women raped by black men every single year.

  • MekongDelta69

    New York Slimes – “racially tinged trial.”

    It’s only ‘racially tinged’ to the NYT when a ‘youf’ (aka ‘aspiring rapper’) is greased.

    When it’s the other way around, to the NYT it’s totally justified because of “The Legacy of Slavery and Jim Crow”

  • Extropico

    So many of these thugs are so belligerent and use rap cacophony as a territorial aggression. I don’t know that he was in the right to shoot first, but I do know he was justified in feeling threatened.

    • Whitetrashgang

      That’s the thing black teenagers as a rule are very violent, but you have to wait like Zimmerman and get attacked First then shoot.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Since these were black thugs, I have the feeling they WERE carrying guns and pointed one at Mr. Dunn out of the car window, just as he said.

    The thugs certainly had time to ditch any illegal guns that were in the car and, according to what I read, the police never bothered to search the parking lot or surrounding area after the car left the gas station.

    Corey, moron that she is, praised the sheriff’s dept. and detectives but never called out law enforcement for NOT searching for any guns that may have been ditched, which would have bolstered Mr. Dunn’s self-defense case.

    And again, Angela Corey should have been removed from her position by the Florida governor — as is allowed by state law — for withholding exculpatory evidence from the defense in the Zimmerman case. She should be wearing an orange jumpsuit while breaking up rocks somewhere in a penitentiary.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      One hopes the fact the police did not search the car for weapons, let alone the crime scene and surround area for weapons they probably did ditch will free Dunn.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Blacks are being emboldened to attack, maim and murder Whites because the sentencing is light and there is an army of do-gooders who think blacks are ONLY locked up due to their color — including Eric Holder.

        Besides that, blacks gain street cred from attacking Whites and doing time in “Gladiator School,” aka prison — in fact for many of them it is probably a lot safer there than it is on the streets, so what’s to lose?

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Sorry for the echo — but maybe it needs to be repeated THREE times — pass it on.

        • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

          Nobody in their right mind wants to fight an orc.

        • Sick of it

          Gladiators had a fair shake compared to being mobbed by blacks in prison, held down, and shanked.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            One of them tried the “knockout game” on me. I ducked just enough that he broke every bone in his right hand on my forehead. The “crunch” was sickening, but I understood right away that it wasn’t me. He needed surgery to save the hand because he had shattered nearly every bone in it. I didn’t press charges because I thought it was funny.

            He was really fast, I’ll give him that, but he also told the cops that it was like hitting a concrete wall.

          • John R

            He must have been really trying to hit you hard, too. To break the bones of your hand you need a pretty hard punch. Good thing you ducked. “Game” my A#$!!!

          • Ograf

            Too bad you weren’t carrying, then you could have shot him in the ass to double his fun.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            If you are going to shoot an assailant, then shoot him in the “fatal T” and blow his brains out. Someone trying to knock out king you is trying to kill you, therefore the only appropriate thing to do with a gun is to take first his life, then anyone else who tries to jump in.

    • Nathanwartooth

      Since these were black thugs, I have the feeling they WERE carrying guns
      and pointed one at Mr. Dunn out of the car window, just as he said.

      When I read the sentence about the kids pointing a shotgun out the window, a part of me went “ohhhhh, so that is what happened and they just ditched the gun”.

      But then I read on about how he never mentioned the gun to his girlfriend.

      Something about this story seems really strange to me. I’m not really sure what to make of it.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        I’d have voted to acquit any white, Asian or Amerind who shot a black – for any reason. We have the right to live in peace in the civilized nations we worked to produce and the right to enforce our peace. Conviction would thus be off the table for any jury in which I was a part. They have decided that we have no rights which they need respect, so the reciprocal also applies.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          You know, I would too.

  • angrywhiteman

    hes as good as done. no way would they find him innocent even if there were a gun . a white man cannot get a fair trial when killing another black especially in a shithole like jax fla.

  • dave

    Black priviledge prevails again. Hopefully one day it won’t be a crime to shoot these black bastards when they threaten or attack innocent whites.

  • Spartacus

    “The verdict won’t sit well with the black community in Jacksonville,”
    said Ken Jefferson, a vice president for Operation Save Our Sons, a
    group that tries to help young men in Jacksonville, where blacks make up
    30 percent of the population. “There is a feeling of being able to
    shoot black people and get away with it,” he said, particularly after
    the Zimmerman case. ”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    These vermin are responsible for over half of all murders in the US… And then they have the nerve to whine about it .

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Blacks have every reason to think they can assault, rape and murder whites with impunity, yet the Lamestream media is projecting their evil on their victims. That is Marxism in action.

  • Truth Teller

    Why it is so hard for whites to fight back.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Because if you do, better find a good lawyer, BEFORE packing a gun to protect yourself and yours, and learning how to shoot accurately even while under attack. You are the guilty party even if you shoot and kill multiple blacks attacking your wife or children in your house, let alone being threatened at a gas station. Thank those who cannot be named and their dominance of the mass media for that. Personally, I think he had every reason to believe he was in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm, and act accordingly, but as you know WE do not know all the particulars. I hope he can get the conviction overturned in appellate court.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Uh, because I need my job and pension?

      Nothing like getting a call from the SPLC (like one of my friends did) saying they want to talk to you.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        If I had them call, I’d ask them to come over.

      • Sloppo

        I know curiosity killed the cat, but I’m curious. What did the Southern Jewish Anti-white Hate Center end up doing to your friend?

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          They called repeatedly over the course of several months — morning, afternoon and evening. He said he hung up when they identified themselves but kept calling anyway. When he saw their # on his caller ID he’d let it ring — and they’d leave messages for him to call them back.

          I told him to change his number AND contact a lawyer for advice as this was clearly harassment.

          They finally gave up when they realized that he wasn’t going to talk to them. It shook him up plenty, believe me and he was terrified as to what they could do to him, knowing the power they have over us fueled by hundreds of millions of dollars.

          • Sloppo

            I have a method to deal with that kind of harassment. I got a Vonage line to allow my wife to make long-distance calls to her family in Europe for a relatively low flat rate. When I got the line hooked up, I started getting about 10 fully automated hang-up calls every day. I forget the name of the company which was calling me, but it’s a big one and they were apparently too big for the people I talked to to ever get in touch with the people who were programming the calling mechanism which kept calling me. I really didn’t want that line for incoming calls, so I turned off the ringer. The vonage line has a lot of features including call forwarding to up to ten different numbers. I looked up several numbers for the company which was hang-up calling me and set up the phone to forward calls to those numbers. If they’re still calling me, they’re really calling themselves. If I have an annoying telemarketer or a hang-up caller on my regular line and I want to bug them back, I call them back on the vonage line. If I hang up and they call me back, they’re only bothering someone who was bothering me.

          • sbuffalonative

            The best thing to do is ignore them. Don’t talk to them at all even for one second. ANYTHING you say WILL be used against you. You might think you’re being clever by baiting them but it could come back to haunt you.

            If you have to talk to them, do it on your own terms. What I would have done is had a friend or two as witnesses with me and I would record my side of the conversation. I would call them once saying, ‘I have no interest in talking to you. If you contact me again I will file charges of harassment.’

            They ARE NOT law enforcement. They CANNOT compel you to talk or answer questions. You have NO obligation to speak to them.

            BTW, why were they interested in your friend? What information did they have on him that they kept harassing him?

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            To answer your query:

            My friend writes for a pro-White blog whose owner and web master have both been in the sites of the SPLC for years — harassing letters, phone calls, veiled threats — but lately they’ve stepped up their scare tactics against this group — AND, importantly, this particular pro-White group does not even touch the deadly 3rd rail of White activism, i.e., the JQ.

            That’s all I can tell you, hope it helps and I will pass along your advice.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Most prisons in the US are dominated by blacks. Most whites are scared to death of black prison culture, and rightfully so. I know a white guy who spent 6 years in a max prison dominated by blacks. Now he believes in god, because he believes it is a miracle he survived.

      • T.J. Jackson

        Prisons should be segregated . . . everything should be segregated..
        One less reason to get in trouble ..

        • Tarczan

          California tried, Supreme Court said no, they must be integrated.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        That’s a pity, but when I was locked up, I would always gleefully fight any number of anything. The blacks quickly learned to leave me alone. I later ran a study session – open to all – for guys working on their GEDs.

        I am also usually mild-mannered; my hobbies include vegetable gardening, cooking, woodworking and fly-tying. I am sorry about your friend.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      It isn’t hard at all. I half-killed my ex-father when I was 14, the last time he beat up my mother. She said she could tell each time I hit the bastard because it sounded like an axe hitting wood. I hate that thing so much it defies description. I kicked him over and over after he went down. I am suprised he was able to have more children.

      He screamed like a girl. Mom filed for divorce the same week.

      • Sloppo

        I’m sorry your childhood included such terrible circumstances, Michael. We certainly don’t always get along well, but I can’t imagine what it would be like to have that kind of conflict within my own family. I hope I never have to find out what it’s like.

        • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

          He was brilliant, but completely evil. I’m certain I received my intelligence from him. He liked hurting us because he had a totally unnecessary inferiority complex about everything. He could do a cryptoquote in pen because he didn’t make mistakes. After my parents divorced, he was religious about child-support payments. He was absolutely brilliant, but tragically flawed.

          I thoroughly hate him, all the way through and out the other side, but I’m half him.

          My compensation is that I do things he would never think of, like vegetable gardening, tying fishing flies and making fishing lures. When I was allowed firearms, I formed my own cartridge cases and reloaded them. I have a machine shop in my basement and welding equipment in the garage. I write naval history articles; my current project is about the US navy fleet air defense problem of the late 1940s and early 1950s, the dawn of the guided surface-to-air missile age.

          My real revenge upon him is that I have never hit my wife or daughter.

    • John R

      Because we live in a Culturally Marxist Society where the powers that be actually favor so-called minorities over decent White people, that’s why. I feel for this man, unjustly convicted, and his family.

  • dd121

    That the leftist media makes this a national story but none of the black on white attacks is proof of their war on whites.

  • Tarczan

    Move away from blacks. If you are on limited income, find a trailer park in a rural area.They are affordable to people of limited means. Let the animals have the cities. It won’t have granite counter tops or a sauna, but you will be safe. Try to find a county where the sheriff proclaims respect for the Constitution.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      I agree with this. Get as far away from diversity as you possibly can. Diversity will totally ruin your life and destroy the lives of your children. The only place for white children to grow up is in 100% white communities. No child should be exposed to the horrors of diversity.

    • John R

      And forget the popular stereotype against trailer parks. That is just because blacks are uncomfortable around them. More Cultural Marxism.

  • Keep Honkin, I’m Reloading

    “Some black leaders expressed disappointment that there were no black men on the jury.”

    Hared to serve on a jury from prison.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      Only honest people show up for jury duty, and not blacks.

    • Major

      Isn’t “men” an oxymoron?

  • Lord Sandwich

    It’s hard for me to form confident opinions regarding such events based on unreliable media reports. With that said, when I put my gun on, I shut my big mouth and don’t engage groups of black strangers with my critique of their misbehavior. There’s another mini-mart down the road. Drive on.

    • DLRisVH

      Unfortunately we are running out of mini-marts without the presence of young black thugs “chillin” and places to drive on to where there no black thugs “chillin”.

  • Truth Teller

    One thing I have done since I got out of college and encountered blacks is to call 911 whenever I encountered black behavior such as sex harassment and approaches, loud music, loud talk etc. I would just head for the nearest phone booth and report attempted rape, robbery or assault and battery. Now I would use my cell phone. I haven’t done it for a long time because I live in Los Angeles and blacks have been driven out by the Hispanics and now pretty much behave themselves at least in my neighborhood. I would always give the license plate number and description of the car and pedestrians. Several times the ones who had approached me were arrested and pled guilty to exposure. I always reported sexual approaches as indecent exposure or attempted rape.
    What with possession of illegal drugs, weapons, warrants, being on parole in company of another felon, a lot of those blacks ended up arrested and held for a few days. Of course with cell phones one could always be charged with filing a false police report. I don’t really know the specifics of that. Is just a 911 call considered a police report?
    A 911 call complete with license number and description of car that the thugs were robbing or assaulting would have resulted in a police presence and search of the car and thugs. Probably at least one would have had drugs, weapons or warrants. No thugs killed, no White man sent to prison.
    There have been many times I wanted to blow up blacks playing loud music or just jiving around babbling incoherently at the top of their voices.
    We are the underclass now. We have to be sneaky, sly and subversive.

    • Ron Cheaters

      When I was running a drug store I told my employees when they call the cops on a suspect always tell them “You think you saw a knife (or anytype weapon)”
      The sole reason I told them was to ensure they would show up in good time. And it works. The alternative is waiting 40 minutes to 1.5h for the cops to come and do nothing. (Toronto)

    • Nancy Thomas

      I was robbed by illegals, car totaled by an illegal, bank account cleaned out by an illegal, lost my job due to lying mexicans, friend lost his job for the same reason, building tagged up “hate white people hate blue eyes”, Latino threw a huge soda into my car and hit me on the head and I lost control of the car and could have been killed, etc.etc.etc., my experience with mexicans is a bit different than yours.

  • connorhus

    Attempted Murder? When dealing with a car full of Blacks who’s leader was on his way to assault you when you dropped him that should be called suppressing fire and an attempt at saving lives.

    The man should get a medal.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    Dunn cooked his own goose by leaving the scene and not calling the police. This case can not in any way be compared to the Zimmerman case.

  • NoMosqueHere

    Back in the good old days, blacks would pipe down when requested to do so by a white male. Now, it’s considered fightin’ words. And indeed it was.

    Dunn will spend at least the next 10 years in a max prison where hard core black criminals predominate. I wish him luck.

    • T.J. Jackson

      He’s toast . . .

    • Nancy Thomas

      He got 60.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        I suspect sentencing is a separate hearing.

  • dave

    If I were on the jury,it would be a mistrial every time. I would not convict a white man for trying doing the right thing. Never vote to convict a white man for cleaning up the streets of black dung.

    • Alexandra1973

      Jury nullification?

  • Major

    “blacks reinforce each other no matter if right or wrong…”

    Courtesy among the thugs and tribes?

  • Sick of it

    So the usual lies from the din do nuffins’ crowd is enough to throw this man in prison? The law is broken. This system is done.

  • negrolocaust

    MICHAEL SAVAGE! the ONLY and the LOUDEST voice on the right. started his show tonight on the reparations scam. youtube user ONLYTHEBEST posts his videos. anybody against michael is anti-white. yes he is jewish. who else is speaking out about the knockout game to 10 million people?… rust limpballs?…

    • Tarczan

      He is pretty much going as far as he can without being thrown off the airwaves. Very encouraging.

  • negrolocaust

    dunn is a hero. i wish i had been on that jury. he would have walked. ignorant blacks. try the knockout game on me. your hands i will cut them off on the spot. i will cut your black hands off in the street on the spot.

  • T.J. Jackson

    habitual vulgar loud-mouthed liars

  • T.J. Jackson

    they just don’t get it do they

  • T.J. Jackson

    This is exactly where the colored riots can be squashed..
    good planning and keep the cops out .. load them thundersticks.

  • Danimalius

    The article says the case is “steeped in racial overtones,” but why is this so? The very next sentence lists the races of the defendant and the shooting victim, then moves on from race. The implicit headline reads “White hurts Black: Reader Must be Outraged.” Nevermind the legions of white victims of black crime, which is normalized by this type of behavior in the media.

  • Boris McGuffin

    I’m a bit tired of hearing about things that “don’t sit well with black people.”

    You’d think they were the most awesome, most important people on the face of the planet.

    • Ellis Kurtz

      They think they are, and their deranged thinking on race has taken over the minds of liberals, and through them to the MSM, as we see in the article.

      Note the bit of paranoia after the “don’t sit well with black people.” remark:

      “There is a feeling of being able to shoot black people and get away with it,” [some black guy] said, particularly after the Zimmerman case.

      Obviously he is referring to whites shooting blacks; suppose 1% of whites wanted to shoot blacks because they can get away with it. That would be two million people out gunning for blacks. Blacks would be dying in tens or hundreds every day. It’s typical of MSM reporting that ignorant nonsense of this sort is reported without comment.

  • Nancy Thomas

    The police herded all of the witnesses together prior to talking to them! Not good police work.

  • Nancy Thomas

    You basically ate what the MSM fed you, without thinking it through. The SUV was full of felons, guys who have been in some serious trouble. Dunn carried his gun for 20 years and never had the first incident. Davis absolutely provoked Dunn, taunted the older white man, and threatened to kill him. The SUV had very dark tinted windows, but Dunn thought he saw a shotgun and felt his life was in danger. The thugs did NOT immediately call 911 even though Davis had been shot, which indicates that they probably ditched their guns and contraband….what other reason could there be for not calling for help right away? Their friend was shot! And there is some speculation that if they had called right away that Davis might have been saved. Dunn is no choir boy, you’re right, but the guys in the SUV were felons and made some very shady/suspicious moves. You ask how it’s playing out in the black community? Well, protests of course! Blacks never take any responsibility whatsoever, it’s always evil whitey’s fault no matter what.
    Yes, Dunn should have avoided them, but they shouldn’t have gone after him and threatened him.
    Also, besides the witnesses being felons, they ALL had something to gain from testifying against Dunn, and they were beholden to the state, cut deals etc.
    There is more to the story if you dig into it.
    I just find it hard to imagine that a guy who carries for 20 years without incident, suddenly starts popping off rounds for no good reason. I say at worst it was manslaughter. Corey was an idiot to go for Murder One. Didn’t she make the same mistake with Zimmerman? Still, Dunn got 60 years, which is the rest of his life. A very sad story all around.

  • Nancy Thomas

    Hold on pal….you’re going to digest what someone named “Lizette Alvarez” (!!!!!!!) from the NEW YORK TIMES (!!!!!!!) HAS TO SAY ABOUT A white man? aRE YOU FREAKIN’ KIDDING ME BUDDY? Do you think for a moment that this marxist latina is going to do anything but bury the white guy in cement shoes? Do you think the NYT would allow this woman to write anything that might be construed as anything but the usual politically correct hate whitey rhetoric? Do you KNOW who owns the NYT? Give me a break.

  • Truth Teller

    Paulie Walnuts
    You enquired how life is with Hispanics. Actually, I don’t really know as I live in a Jewish, mostly Persian and entertainment industry people neighborhood, West Los Angeles. I do know a friend who cashed out early and bought a small apartment house for cash in a farm town in Ventra county jus north of Los Angeles county. She is surrounded by Hispanics and has no problems at all. They are good neighbors and good tenants. Of course her grandchildren live and go to school in one of the mostly White suburbs.
    I moved to Los Angeles a couple years before the Rodney King riots and OJ murders. At that time, about 1990 the town was overwhelmed by blacks. The black politicians and activists ran the town. Black savages took the freeway up from Compton, wreaked havoc on West Los Angeles and went right back to Watts and Compton on the freeway.
    The black activists were supervised and outright owned by Stanley Sheinbaum (note the name), communist economist married to the Jack Warner studio fortune. He used his wife’s money for decades to destroy Los Angeles with blacks.
    But since about 1995 the blacks have been on their way out. Someone built vast numbers of section 8 in Riverside and SAn Bernadino counties. By maybe 2005 the blacks were pretty much gone. Best is that most of the local government people are now reasonably competent, civilized Hispanics.
    I don’t like being overwhelmed by the entire third world, but anything is better than blacks.
    The White immigrants, Russians, Armenians, Persians and Israelis are basically White collar criminals. They won’t commit any common crimes, but try not to do business with them. Especially try not go use credit cards at Armenian gas stations or Persian stores.
    First time I went to a Persian garage for a simple oil change they told me that my car needed extensive repairs. I didn’t believe them of course and drove away. The car started clanking and shaking although it had only 12,000 miles on it and had worked perfectly when I brought it in. I pulled over and found they had removed the caps from the acid vials in the battery. The caps were plastic and had strings that kept them from being thrown away so I just put them back on and the car was fine. Another trick is to charge for a gallon more than you actually get. Or call you and tell you your air filter must have been stolen and they will replace it.
    Now I get my car repaired either in the town in Ventura where my friend lives or in the 99 percent White bay area town by a White mechanic where my daughter lives.
    If you ever sell a good or service to a Russian, Armenian, Persian or Israeli don’t take a check or credit card. Get cash, even if it for a .$200,000 copy machine. Selling a house to a Russian, Armenian, Persian, Israeli or Asian is a nightmare of lies, cheating and falsehoods.
    It’s not great, but anything is better than blacks.

    • benvad

      I concur with this, your dealing with minds from the Middle East and communist administered areas.

      To cheat is a way to get ahead, there is no sense of “English Fair Play” with Wogs.

    • skara_brae

      Persians are of course Iranians until they land at LAX. Then they magically turn Persian. Land of Persian carpets, Persian cats and other lovely fluffy things.

    • jackryanvb

      I would agree that the Black criminal underclasses the worst. Muslim extremists, Asian Muslims who groom (rape) poor White girls to become prostitutes are also very bad.

      Persians, secular Arabs, higher caste Whte Hispanics better, though all these will vote Lib Dem.

      Democracy sucks.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Russians are NOT Jews, but there are a lot of criminal Jews from Russia with Russian names. Genuine Russians I would much rather have for neighbors anytime than the non-Slavic criminals and cretins who besmirch my grandmother’s people by expropriating Russian names.

  • John R

    White man gets into an altercation with black “teens”, leads to shooting, and death of one of the “teens”. The verdict: He gets 60 years in prison, and the DA STILL wants to try him for murder.
    Black “teen” goes looking for White victims, finds one, viciously attacks and kills him. No provocation at all. Verdict: Ten years, but more likely just five for “good” behavior. No additional charges; case closed.
    Racist justice system?

  • John R

    No, we wouldn’t. Uhhh, when I was a teenager, if I and my friends were playing loud music in a car, and an adult asked us to turn it down, our response would probably be something like, “sorry, sir, we’ll turn it down.”

  • Massif1

    This is why I stay away from areas that are infected with blacks. The type of blacks hanging out at gas stations are there to buy drugs or sell drugs.

  • jackryanvb

    Sort of agree. But, know the Blacks in the car were vicious street Blacks.

    My advice is never use a gun unless the Blacks have gun or knife weapons themselves. If Blacks break in to your home while you are there, plant a gun or knife on them.

    If the defense had found a Gun on the deceased, he might have beat this rap.

    Guns are not going to save us and often are more trouble than they are worth.

    I highly recommend cane fighting.

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    Invite them over. Back in 2000, even the FBI said they would never have kicked down my door, because they reckoned on losing six-to-eight agents. BATF arrested me in December 2011 because of a mistakenly-issued county warrant and searched the house. They asked me whether I had any explosives at home, and were talking about getting a bomb robot. My reputation is a heck of a thing. Later on they asked what the potassium “nitrate” was for. It is nitrite, not nitrate, and I used it for tanning the coyote pelt they also found. I killed the coyote with a thrown rock, so I didn’t keep the skull; I normally save skulls.

    The $PLC doesn’t have arrest authority, and once they’re inside your living room, they would be completely in your power.

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    I requested a polygraph after my last felony charge. The assistant DA then dropped the case.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      That was because he knew the case against you was flimsy and he would look like a fool, or worse. I did the same thing to beat a misdemeanor charge against me, by asking for a court reporter to record the proceedings. When there is a record of what happens in court, there had better be a case otherwise it will be tossed.

    • M&S

      Michael,
      Right now, I’m leaning towards guilty as sin on Mr. Dunn because the flight issue without any sign of a weapon as the potential for return fire makes it clear that they were no longer a threat.
      But if Dunn took a polygraph and passed it as to his seeing /what he thought/ was a weapon. And particularly if the ex-cons in the Durango refused to do the same in stating whatever he saw, it wasn’t a gun, **that changes everything**.
      A death threat from the vehicle.
      A black man advancing on him with friends behind.
      A certain belief that there was a gun in the car.
      And a refusal by more than one witness to refute that assertion, under polygraph squiggle.
      And Dunn walks, if I’m on the jury.
      Because the gun in the car means he has every right to _suppression fire_, even as they drive away, to keep them too busy thinking about a bullet through their skulls to bring that weapon to bear.
      If I recall correctly, you mentioned being a mercenary soldier. So you know that when an engagement like this happens, you shoot and don’t stop shooting until the threat is down or out of engagement range.
      I know that polygraph results are not admissible in court in many states but this is one of those he said/she said issues where the _balance_ of evidence supplies a statistical weighting proof (five liars, one truth teller, or vice versa) that makes or breaks the case.
      I’m glad you were able to beat a false charge.
      P.S. Let me add that this is one more proof of how insane our judicial system has become. People here complain that blacks get way too light a sentence for the crap they pull. But here’s an instance of The System screwing over a white guy as counterpoint.
      After a walk on Murder 1, this man is going to go to jail for sixty years for the people he /didn’t/ kill. And he will have to go to maximum security as both a violent felon and one who is at substantial risk to a shanking from other black prisoners.
      Worst Case: He is a no-priors man who let his sense of empowerment or fear get ahead of him and made a terrible mistake. Alternate: He’s just been framed.
      He is sentenced to six dimes, he does three before being let out in time to die.
      Thirty years at 40,000 dollars a year for maximum security is 1.2 million dollars. On top of a 1 million dollar initial trial. A 250,000 dollar appeals process. And another cool million at retrial if this DA harpy has her way on ‘civil rights violations’ double jeopardy for Murder 1.
      That’s not right, because it makes all taxpayers, everywhere, victims of this crime as well.
      You send this guy to jail for a maximum 6-8 years. You let the judge decide, based on mitigating circumstances and defendant willingness to allocute, between the min and max.
      After he does the full time, he’s one third of the way to a death penalty if he recidivates.
      But he’s also what, 45-50? Which means his He-Man days are behind him as age naturally changes your psychology every five years or so.
      And the public gets to pay 240,000 dollars for his stay at the Hotel Super Max nearest him.
      It’s just pathetic that we are so wrapped up in disgust with other races’ base behaviors that NONE of us can take the longer view which says: “It’s not the individual crime you have committed, but the continuing risk to society you pose as a displayed willingness to threepeat, that gives us an excuse to kill you back rather than house you for life.”
      Because the exce$$ivene$$ of the criminal justice system as legalized vengeance is _bankrupting_ our society.
      When what we really want to have happen is simply to keep those individuals as populations who hurt us and who have no respect for life, at a distance from our society.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    OR attack, kidnap, rape or murder white females.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    They don’t con us, they con whites stupid enough to fall for the lie hook, line and sinker! Just another way the real rulers of the country are waging war against us.

  • gregCall

    “The trial began six months after the verdict in another high-profile case that focused on race, in which George Zimmerman was acquitted in the fatal shooting of a black teenager, Trayvon Martin.”

    “The verdict won’t sit well with the black community in Jacksonville,”
    said Ken Jefferson, a vice president for Operation Save Our Sons, a
    group that tries to help young men in Jacksonville, where blacks make up
    30 percent of the population. “There is a feeling of being able to
    shoot black people and get away with it,” he said, particularly after
    the Zimmerman case.”

    The real pity is that every time an animal is killed it’s going to be viewed through the “Zimmerman prism”. This specific case may have not really been self defense, no one knows except Mr. Dunn. Unfortunately from here on out EVERY time a black dies at the hands of a non black we’re going to get to hear the name George Zimmerman invoked to reinforce the medias intended bias of evil white racist murder, of course if its a black on black murder (which something like 80% are) it’s all good.

  • John K

    Dunn is guilty of self-defense while white.

  • John R

    Convicted of something? Yes. But sixty years? NO WAY! this sounds like an altercation that just got out of hand, that’s all. Not a cold blooded murder. Of course, if a black goes out looking for a White person to hurt, then only ten years, so the “poh yoot gets a chanz ta turn iz laf arown.”