South African Preacher Makes Congregation Eat Grass to ‘Be Closer to God’

Jill Reilly, Daily Mail (London), January 10, 2014

A South African preacher made his congregation eat grass to ‘be closer to God’ before stamping on them.

Under the instruction of Pastor Lesego Daniel of Rabboni Centre Ministries dozens of followers dropped to the floor to eat the grass at his ministry in Garankuwa, north of Pretoria after being told it will ‘bring them closer to God.’

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His controversial methods have drawn criticism from thousands of people although members of his congregation swear by his methods–he is said to have claimed that humans can eat anything to feed their bodies and survive on whatever they choose to eat.

‘Yes, we eat grass and we’re proud of it because it demonstrates that, with God’s power, we can do anything,’ Rosemary Phetha told South Africa’s Times Live.

The 21-year-old law student says she had been battling a sore throat for more than a year, but it was healed after she ate the grass.

Doreen Kgatle, 27, of Ga-rankuwa, suffered a stroke two years ago.

‘I could not walk but soon after eating the grass, as the pastor had ordered, I started gaining strength and an hour later I could walk again,’ said Kgatle.

Photos on the Rabboni Centre Ministries Facebook page show the followers eating the grass as well as Mr Daniel walking across them as they spread out on the floor.

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Photos that follow show dozens of people getting sick in the toilets–an image of the bathrooms show women clutching their stomach, while the men are vomiting in the sink.

The pastor’s actions during the service prompted a series of online complaints.

One outraged commentator said ‘Is this a scene in a movie . . . this can’t be real. God created animals to chew grass and made human beings to dominate over animals. Any person who reduces human beings to animals is definitely not of God.’

While another person wrote: ‘Why is he stepping on people? This is inhumane. Shocking.’

The Times Live reported that during a service of at least 1,000 people in a marquee Daniel screamed ‘sleep’ and six people went to sleep.

He ordered other congregants to slap and trample on them, tut the sleepers remain rigid and unresponsive until he ordered them to wake up.

‘You can leave them like this for six months. I love this, I don’t want to be bored. You can even make police go to sleep when they come to arrest you,’ he said.

Although Daniel has not responded to the backlash yesterday he posted on Facebook: ‘God is at work and His people are testifying right now st the farm. TO GOD BE THE GLORY.’

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  • D.B. Cooper

    Well. It could be worse. What if he asked them to smoke grass?
    Nice pimp suit by the way.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Unofficial motto of black ministers worldwide: “Pimpin’ aint ea-zayyy!”

    • NotTooSwift

      Or, he could have asked them to eat bananas. ……was that racist?…sorry.

      • sbuffalonative

        That was likely his real motive; cutting the grass. Next he’ll have them wash his clothes to wash away their sins.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      His necktie seriously needs to be burned.

      • Tim_in_Indiana

        The whole outfit needs to be burned…and I won’t even get into the whole “necklacing” thing…

        • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

          I think he should be forced to keep wearing that suit, as punishment for having once owned the tie.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          He looks a lot more Satanic than anything.

      • Max Krakah

        As well as the couch.

      • LeGrandDerangement

        Or eaten.

    • Max Krakah

      I hope the grass was just fertilized

      • sbuffalonative

        I wonder how many ant parasites they consumed.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      “Well. It could be worse.”
      In subSaharan Afreaka it could ALWAYS be worse.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        “There is no situation so bad that it can not be made worse.”

        • Brutus

          Just add blacks.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            I laughed out loud at Dr. Phil over Christmas while watching the show on TV with my mother and family, and and he said to some wretched couple, “You’ve hit bottom. You can’t fall off the floor.”

            Complete nonsense. The flaw in Dr. Phil’s reasoning rests in the fact that there is no “floor”. I am not religious, but I believe that Pit goes down forever.

    • Katherine McChesney

      That’s what I was thinking.

  • Jesse James

    If you are eating grass because your preacher tells you to you probably don’t really understand Christianity.

    If you sacrifice small animals to the Bandit Saint your probably aren’t a Christian.

    Cargo cult religion, I suppose it is racist to notice.

    • sbuffalonative

      Shades of Jim Jones. I wonder if he’s stocking up on Kool-Aid.

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      It is not a “cargo cult”, it is Christianity at a grass roots level, but taken a little bit too literally as Africans are not good at metaphorical thinking.

      • Jesse James

        Perhaps cargo cult was used slightly out of this particular context. However misunderstanding of symbols associated with Christianity and the west in general is often a component of a cargo cult mentality as is a charismatic leader who preaches a strange and fantastical fusion of misunderstood western ideas and native traditions. Whatever this native preachers theology is it is certainly not Christian. It is in essence heretical. It has more in common with the confused teachings of Hong Xiuquan, the Chinese leader of the Taiping Rebellion. Towards the end of his life he commanded his remaining and starving followers to “eat the manna of Heaven” – which in the real world was nothing. It didn’t help stave off starvation and his own cousin claimed that Hong Xiuquan died from eating “manna”.

    • Katherine McChesney

      This has NOTHING to do with Christianity. This pimp is playing a power trip on them and blaspheming the name of our Creator

      • Brutus

        Bingo. And that does real harm to real people. I know. Some of my family were involved in a cult that claimed to be Christian.

  • Pro_Whitey

    I’m just glad it wasn’t some castrated white preacher having his white flock abase themselves.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      I do indeed cease caring about certain White people at a certain point in any number of endeavors and situations. This would not bother me, I admit…

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    Women heaving into toilets, men vomiting into the sink.

    When I was growing up, my dog used to eat grass, and he threw up every time. That said, nobody ever accused miniature schnauzers of “inbentin” dem “heliocobopters”. Schnauzers mainly just bark a lot. And throw up when they eat grass.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      I also once leaned out a very high window and threw up down the side of the building. This left a terrible orange stain on the white stucco building surface at UCSC that lasted for over a year. It was the deep-fried onion rings that did it and not the three 40s I had consumed.

      A large bunch of us were playing Dungeons & Dragons – girlfriends and everybody playing, and I realized there was no damned way I was going to get across all those sitting people in any reasonable amount of time. I did the heroic thing and barfed like a dying dog straight out the open window, down the side of the building.

      “Attention. Attention. Projectile vomiting will start in 10…9…8…”

      When I turned around afterward, I asked “What?”

      It was a gloriously fun game session.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    After all Whites have disappeared with all our wondrous evil technology…
    This is how people will live once again in “da muddaland”…
    Well, at least they’re not eating White people, eh? Jenkem anybody?

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      Caption : African understanding of Western culture.

      • LeGrandDerangement

        Those are some nasty lawn ornaments.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Kinda like lazy lawn jockeys.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Up for a game of lawn darts?

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            Sadly, those have been discontinued in the United States.

    • Jesse James

      I hope none of the American “elites” see this photo, they will all be trying to import their very on human lawn mowers. Good for the environment you see, reduces petroleum fuel use, provides employment, increases diversity, reduces noise pollution (except for some discreet wretching noises), and the Middle Class can’t afford their own human yard mowers so it serves handily as a status symbol. Like those overpriced Prius cars, the elites can’t resist a little conspicuous holier than thou consumption.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        I’d still like to save the poor little bonobos of the Congo. Apparently the dominant species of local great ape is eating (and possibly effing) the CUTE little horny African apes to the point of extinction.

        If some industrious Whites could only get a few breeding pairs of them perhaps we could help solve the Bantu’s rapine r-style breeding habits by donating “sex apes” they could rape and kill instead of other Bantus or Whites.

        Making lemonade from lemons, baby!

      • Mark Hillyard

        I just invite my friends to let their horses eat my grass. Saves me a lot of effort. I just can’t picture inviting a bunch of gang bangers up here to munch my grass, approx. 3 acres. However with this CA drought going on I may not have any grass to worry about. It’s still not green out there and the cows are eating acorns and getting sick.

    • Brian

      Reminds me of the scene in Fellowship of the Ring right after Boromir died– a field littered with dead urukhai and orcs.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Yeah, or zombies. Evokes scenes from Walking Dead for some reason. Come to think, notions zombie apocalypse are probably partly fueled by subconscious fears of a negropalypse.

        • Brian

          That scene early on in the Walking Dead where Grimes gets into the tank in downtown ATL– I’ve been to that intersection (Forsyth St. and Marietta St.) at least a hundred times. When I saw all those mindless, vicious walkers swarming around him, I thought ‘ah, it must be first of the month– gov’t checks just got issued.’

  • dd121

    I didn’t know God was an ungulate.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      Hindus think so. Who knows; they might be right.

      • Brutus

        They are not right. Beef. It’s what’s for dinner.

        • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

          The word “beef” makes the gums between my teeth itch.

  • King of My Castle

    What this idiot doesn’t realize is that many animals cannot live on grass alone, either! A horse, for example, needs oats etc. The grazing is just not nutritious enough.

  • David Ashton

    Save on the lawnmovers.

  • Spartacus

    Get used to it, you’re gonna eat a lot of grass after the Afrikaaner either emigrate or seced, and stop feeding you vermin….

  • So CAL Snowman

    “Yes, we eat grass and we’re proud of it because it demonstrates that,
    with God’s power, we can do anything,’ Rosemary Phetha told South
    Africa’s Times Live.”

    So why is all of Sub Saharan Africa still a fifth world hell hole?

    • LACounty

      Too many don’t grow or eat grass. If this guy could convince the greater pop to do the same, who knows.

  • crystalevans

    These people are sheeple. They will do whatever the preacher says. They do not know how to think for themselves.

  • Conrad

    “God created animals to chew grass and made human beings to dominate over animals.”
    Yeah, so what’s your point?

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      Spoken like a Kzintosh!

      “That’s not food; that’s what food eats.”

  • Max Krakah

    the devil’s spawn

  • Puggg

    Is it eat grass, or smoke grass?

    • jeffaral

      Both.

  • M.

    Religion, or at least the practice thereof, reflects its people. I’m sure if some Muslims were Christian, they would’ve found a way to go all Leviticus on the infidels.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      Perhaps. My own suspicion where Muslims are concerned is that they need to develop some form of Protestantism. That said, religious schisms are never very pleasant experiences for the majority of those involved, as witnessed by the ongoing homicidal Sunni-Shi’ite business. Both groups also apparently regard not only each other, but also Druzes and Baha’i to be heretics.

      This becomes more pernicious when the “fatwa” concept is dumped into the simmering witches’ brew. The Ayatoldyouso Kockamamie issued a fatwa soliciting the murder of Salmon Rushdie for writing a book he didn’t like. The United States inevitably took a lot of criticism from Muslims over this, despite the fact that Rushdie is an ethnic subcontinental Indian with British citizenship. Details like these are apparently irrelevant to people who’s reading skills are somewhere between zilch and nada, and who have had their critical thinking acumen bred out of them over the last 1400 years.

      The long-term genetic damage caused by their habit of repeated consanguineous marriages is a subject for the biologist, but it is certainly an issue of concern here. It is no secret – on this website anyway – that human behavior is in some part determined by biology. This brings us back to your main point, which is that a substantial proportion of today’s Muslims can not be trusted to behave responsibly with ANY religion.

      • captainc

        Hi Michael, speaking from my own understanding as a Muslim, we Muslims (Sunnis) have many conflicts with other sects, that is because they would try to supplant Islam with their own versions of Islam which are no different than Hinduism, Christianity and others. We are unique in our worships that we will have neither intermediator nor intercessor to God, that being said, we will leave them alone if they stop using Islam in their religions, more less like fake Chinese goods litigations.

        Well, I am sure you have a lot of criticisms about Islam and Muslims, but I would like to hear them from the right understanding.

        That’s also true that Muslims’ cultures also determined with their previous culture that they have, or even whether they have been in peaceful or war torn countries.

        • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

          I do not pretend to understand anything like God. I also don’t understand women very well, except that they are our friends and not our servants. If there is a Supreme Being, I worship Him in my own way, every day. One need merely look at growing things – butterflies on flowers – to see God. Attempting to box Him or It in with a religion is beyond silly. If there is a God, it is beyond our understanding.

          I believe in green plants. The pepper plant I moved inside for the winter has recovered and now produces more peppers. Perhaps there is a place for druids today.

          • captainc

            Women are never our servants. :p

            I understand where are you coming from. But, I found, as much as I wanted to liberate myself from Islam, Qur’an to have many (scientific as well as historical) coincidences which I could not ignore and its narrations to fit extremely well as I age and the world unfolds.

            First thing first, though, is there evil in this world in things you see or feel? or even evil spirit?

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            I do not believe in some sort of “evil spirit”. My ex-father cheated me out of $625,000 of patent money, and since I had no legal redress, I threatened him. I did three years in federal prison for that.

            The guy I trusted as my best friend stole from me mercilessly while I was locked up and he was house sitting for me. He is now seven years into a life sentence for molesting children. Sometimes things that look like ordinary people betray from a position of trust. I understand that I can’t fix that.

            Individual people either do horrible things to each other or they do not. Both of the “people” I mentioned were Catholics. I suppose I should hate all Catholics, but I don’t.

            Last Tuesday BATF brought back some things they had seized from my home as “evidence”; evidently I will not be charged with another big steaming pile of felonies. I shook the Special Agent in charge’s hand and said “Thank you” to her. Hating them would only hurt me and damage my own life. I don’t want them back, but I wish them no ill will. It was a two-year investigation, so maybe a federal grand jury said “no true bill”, or else the US Attorney’s office decided not to prosecute.

            What we as individuals do is either good, or it is not. A few summers ago, the neighbor two doors down and I got amazingly drunk on his patio. One of our other neighbors, a beautiful retiree asked us to move her piano. Of course we did! I didn’t suspect I could lift my end of an upright piano with my left hand. I steadied it with my right hand so as not to bang up Nora’s walls. She paid us with more alcohol. Alex says that was about the best day of his life, and that afternoon is a memory I will always treasure.

            I gave Nora a bunch of tomatoes and peppers from the front garden last autumn. Ariadne and I helped her hang Christmas ornaments in front of her door. When I returned home from federal prison in 2003 I went to get my mail only at night, so nobody would see me.

            I shun things and people that are emotionally or morally unhealthy. If I actually possessed a soul, let alone a religion, I would want to say that I am a good sort. I write good poetry, always about love and loss.

            Most of my friends from prison went back. They weren’t bad guys; they just went back. It is very easy to do that. My mother saved me. Not religion or a political belief system, but her love for me.

          • captainc

            Somehow my last post was deleted. But, here it is.

            OK, but you are still naive. There are evils orchestrated in our world, and that wisdom has been lost in the West, because you guys think witchcraft, devil and God are only delusions.

            Moreover, those things have been repackaged as aliens, UFOS, magic, ritual murders, instead of Devil worship and offerings.

            watch?v=xTNqvc4bXJU
            watch?v=b4MMpL7Irow

            The more the world unfolds, it strangely fits into Islamic narrations of the End of Time. That’s why there are many young mujahiddins from the West fighting in Syria.

            We will be the last bastion and bullwark against the New World Order.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            Certainly I believe that witchcraft is a delusion. I am an agnostic, which means that I openly admit that I do not know the nature of God or whether one even exists. I very strongly believe that a Supreme Being who created the universe and everything in it does not really need my saccharine adoration. I am a technologist, specifically a chemical engineer in happier days, so I know that the best way to make vanadium 2-ethylhexanoate for semiconductor fabrication via spin-on-glass is not by reacting a vanadium alkoxide with 2-ethylhexanoic acid, but instead with 2-ethylhexanoic anhydride. Witchcraft won’t get one there. I can tell you why my TIG welds on aluminum tend to produce cracks in the surrounding material: I am going too slowly and subjecting the aluminum to excessive heat. No witches. I can tell you why fish go after a “Little Cleo” fishing lure so aggressively: the spoon shape makes it wiggle in the water and absolutely infuriates them. Still no witchcraft.

            A bunch of guys not much different from me, working for other guys not much different from my old bosses once landed men on the moon. We’re going to Mars someday too, if we can help it. It will require honest, logical reasoning and dedicated work rather than prayer.

            In rare, introspective moments, some of the more militant Muslims may ask themselves why the West has things they do not. It is because our solution to most problems is generally more work, rather than prayer. Europe has produced the most disastrous wars in history, and has recovered through the expedient of work. Japan was thoroughly bombed in 1945, and also recovered via work.

            You may suspect I am merely sitting at home typing on a chilly Monday morning, drinking Bloody Mary’s while my daughter reads a book. I have varnish drying on several woodworking projects in my basement. One is a storage box for my drafting tools. I am particularly pleased with the way that one is turning out. I have already made a nice alfredo sauce to go on shell pasta with shrimp, mussels and clams for dinner. This afternoon I will start a five-gallon batch of hard apple-lime cider.

            Perhaps work well-done should be a variety of prayer. It is far easier to do a job properly than it is to explain why one did not.

          • captainc

            I think what the videos shown above could not be explained by our scientific knowledge yet and that should not be disregarded as delusions, at the end a lot of things still could not be explained by our mind or even our best scientists.

            in entertaintment,
            watch?v=TMpFmxCcJks
            watch?v=oD1YKPr0Mg4
            watch?v=67hBU1YRfUQ&list=PLMlmsC3vsl5gnwhDm54pA-_ZPNhdf66hd&index=6

            in religion,
            watch?v=f-wiq8GpugU&list=PLMlmsC3vsl5itWHEwFEFi7Z5mdx5tLnnS&index=1

            in politics,
            watch?v=EtlFmnvRzDs
            watch?v=r5Yq_0Gg2Oc

            that’s why you have a lot of chaos and crimes in the US.

      • jeffaral

        The sectarian conflits among Muslims is just a more sofisticated form of tribal warfare, an excuse to kill each other.

      • Katherine McChesney

        There’s a troublemaking, bigoted Iranian in my building who calls himself a Sunni-Protestant. I googled the name and found that their opposition call themselves Shia-Catholics. I suppose this is due to a disagreement over the Caliphate. I don’t want to engage him in conversation about this as the man has problem keeping his hands to himself around women.

  • Katherine McChesney

    HGTV has a black preacher who decorates houses. His name is Rev. Run. He dresses like a pimp.

  • Brutus

    Ugh. That is not a pastor. It is a witch doctor.

  • Brutus

    I like money.

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    It isn’t just the width, but the color in the awful photo above. My wife and I have gone to office parties hosted by her various employers; apparently I always look great. My mother also worked at major banks before her retirement, and so I picked up male fashion cues from bank managers. I scrub the grit out from under my fingernails with a stiff brush and yank eyebrow hairs that are growing in crazy directions. A necktie should compliment the shirt and jacket, rather than merely looking silly.

    In the immortal words of a beloved company secretary from Nebraska, I “clean up good.”

  • jeffaral

    One more proof that Christianity is a very rational, advanced world religion. Their dress sense, as exemplified by pastor Daniel, is superb!

    • DaveMed

      I could equally well make the case that science is a failure because the Black kids in public school leave without knowing basic Biology, Chemistry, etc.

      Sometimes, Nature precludes Nurture from exerting any meaningful effects. It doesn’t mean the nurturing was defective.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      They are merely aping genuine Christians. In a similar fashion, they dress up like people and pretend to work.

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    The name “Pastor Lesego” made me think of “Pasta & Lasagna” :D

  • itdoesnotmatter

    To quote Game Theoretician John Nash’s comment to a fellow graduate student: “there must be a mathematical equation to explain how terrible that tie is.”