Five People Arrested over the Shooting of Former Miss Venezuela and Her British Husband in Front of Their Daughter

Gerard Couzens, Daily Mail (London), January 10, 2014

These are the five adults arrested over the motorway murders of former Miss Venezuela Monica Spear and her British-born ex-husband Thomas Berry.

Police in Venezuela released the mugshots today as they revealed they were hunting four more men including one thought to be on the run with the gun used to shoot the tragic pair dead in front of their five-year-old daughter.

Two minors aged 17 and 15–whose names and photos have not been released–are also in custody.

Detectives named the alleged ‘material author’ of the double shooting as a 19-year-old called Jean Carlos Colina Alcala.

The suspects also include a 26-year-old fugitive army deserter and career criminal nicknamed El Adolfito–‘Little Adolfo’ in Spanish–who was first arrested for stealing a motorbike aged just 14.

Police chief Jose Gregorio Sierralta said the discovery of Miss Spear’s camera at the house of the sole female detainee was vital in helping them identify the gang alleged to have shot dead the former beauty queen and her ex-husband during a botched attempt to steal their car.

He also identified the gang as the ‘Bloodthirsty Ones of El Cambur’ the area 200 miles west of the capital Caracas where Monday’s night horror shootings occurred.

The murders had been blamed by local papers on a gang called the ‘Quick Ones.’

Police also released mugshots of the men they are hunting–including a 21-year-old named as Nelfren Antonio Jimenez who is believed to have the murder weapon.

The others were named as Franklin Alvarez, nicknamed ‘The Stain’; Gerardo Contreras, nicknamed ‘The Cat’; and a man police have yet to identify fully who is nicknamed ‘The Junior One.’

Mr Sierralta said: ‘Jean Carlos Colina Alcala is allegedly the material author of the homicides of Miss Spear and her partner and the others under arrest collaborated directly with the commission of the crime.

‘The motive of robbery has been confirmed with the discovery of a digital camera belonging to Miss Spear during a search of Eva Josefina Armas Mejias’ home.

‘The intention was to sell the camera to another of the suspects.

‘Investigators have managed the rapid identification of the authors of this crime and have been able to apprehend and desarticulate a dangerous gang dubbed the ‘Bloodthirsty Ones of El Cambur.’

Travel firm boss Mr Berry, 39, and his ex-wife, 29, who became a successful actress after being crowned Miss Venezuela in 2004, were shot dead on Monday night after puncturing on a motorway.

Thomas Berry and Monica Spears

Thomas Berry and Monica Spear

They were attacked as their Toyota Corolla was being loaded onto a tow truck they had stopped.

They were murdered after locking themselves in their car to stop their killers stealing their vehicle.

Their daughter Maya, who was shot in the leg, was told the shattering news her parents were dead after leaving hospital.

She is now staying with relatives in Caracas while her family decide whether to take her to the States where her maternal grandparents live.

Her paternal grandparents, both British, are expected to remain in Venezuela.

Retired maths professor Tom and his wife Kate moved to the south American country with their son when he was just seven.

Their daughter Katie, who now lives in Edinburgh, has flown to Venezuela to attend today’s funerals for Miss Spear and her brother.

The dead couple divorced last year but remained friends for the sake of their daughter.

Speaking of the divorce recently to a local newspaper, Monica Spear said: ‘It was a spectacular divorce.

‘My friends ask me if I have suffered and they’re amazed when I tell them I haven’t.

‘What happened is that I married a very civilised person and when we took the decision to go our separate ways we talked about the fact we had a daughter together and decided we should carry on seeing each other for the rest of our lives and it was best for our daughter that we got on well with each other.

‘I want the best for him and he wants the best for me.

‘I can assure you there are no problems between us.’

[Editor’s Note: The mugshots can be found at the original article link below.]

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  • Jesse James

    Those of you contemplating fleeing the US and starting over in South and Central America should read this account a couple of times and do some thinking. If global times get really tough the locals will always eat the foreigners first. They would have been better off in eastern Kentucky.

    • John K

      As big a cesspool as America has become, it’s still the best chance anyone has. No one in Central America likes white people, either.

      This is why I laugh at the idiots who marry mail order brides; you’re just a stepping stone to a green card, you imbeciles! You think American women are crazy, and you think a third worlder is better?? These savages are just as likely to slaughter you as any black thug.

      These savages hate whites enough already, they hate them more when they’re screwing their women. They weren’t killed over a “botched carjacking”. This was about race. The suspects look black to me.

    • Sick of it

      There would be no point in leaving short of a concerted colonization effort regardless.

      • Jesse James

        A know a bunch of Confederates went down to Brazil at the very end of the American Civil War as an organized group with their wives, children, slaves and with partially intact military units and set up a colony. I read an article about it in the Parade Magazine of the Atlanta Journal in the 1970s. They had intermarried with the locals and spoke Spanish now. Almost none of their original Southern culture or language still existed just over 100 years later. It must take a pretty large number of people to maintain a culture. What was sad was all that seemed to be left were echos of who they were – many of the children still had blond hair and blue eyes. But those were only surface features, in culture and the Portuguese language they were Brazilians. Although they still displayed the Confederate flag they had forgotten most of their history and considered it a Brazilian thing. Three generations and done.

        • Sick of it

          The Confederados’ descendants are not very numerous, which is strange considering how long ago they moved to Brazil.

          • Jesse James

            Yup there is a lesson there in human colony viability and the transmission of culture and genes. It bears further study, especially for those who are ethno-nationalist separatist.

          • Sick of it

            Those who must not be named make for excellent subjects when studying how to carry forward as a close knit ethnic group and to continue one’s culture for centuries. We shouldn’t have to learn from them, but they’ve more or less deracinated white people.

          • Jesse James

            The Mormon colonies in Mexico are also an interesting case of small scale colony viability.

          • Max Krakah

            Many of the American Confederates returned to the US from Brazil. Perhaps most of them went back after reconstruction was over.

          • Jesse James

            Good point.

          • Brazil also abolished slavery in 1877, which meant those Confederates were quickly dealing with the unpleasantness of freed blacks, along with a tropical climate and insect-borne diseases.

        • Bantu_Education

          The same happened to a group of Afrikaans-speaking Boers who went to S.Argentina in the early 1900’s after the Anglo-Boer War. Also the Welsh who went to Patagonia in 1865, about 2 decades later Latino Argies followed them but only after the Indians had been virtually wiped out. Only a tiny handful if that still speak any Welsh, and that probably only for the tourists sake.

        • fuzzypook

          That is what is supposed to happen. Small numbers will eventually move into the host culture. We don’t have that here because our immigrants are overwhelming us with large numbers and our society props up and celebrates, and encourages their failed culture.

          • Jesse James

            I am not sure there is a “supposed to happen” thought I will admit there is a “most probable to happen”. Our problem in a world where the demographic trends are promising that white western people become minorities everywhere including their European homelands, is how do we maintain our cultural and racial identity.

          • DonReynolds

            The same way as we did before…..by exclusion and driving out the invader.

          • Anna Tree

            I am an atheist (but not anti-religion and not anti-Christianity), sometimes I wonder if the solution is not to (re)create a white racialist religion.
            I wrote: around a white racialist Jesus but erased: maybe he has too much baggage… about Israel, Judaism, Jews, yaveh and saying every race are the same etc

            I do would prefer some kind of white racialist atheism (Europeidism and not humanism), but most people need god/spirituality and I respect that.

            So I don’t know, but I know we need something to bring whites together and stick together for good, with a sense of community, holidays, customs, historical stories etc I should maybe read about Ancient European religions and we could try to modernize one or a fusion of them or a fusion with white history and write a 200 pages holy book.

          • Pelagian

            When white men exercise true leadership, the other races follow and there is no racial strife. When white men refuse to lead, and become self-centered, everything else goes to pot. Which is what we’ve seen the last 600 years: its a straight-line from the pre-reformation to gay marriage and race-card paralysis of 2014. God-centered to man-centered.
            So no need for a new religion. Just go back to the old one. Francis? He’s a scared rabbit. Push him and he will follow.

          • Anna Tree

            Yes, but I still think that although Christianity is a white religion, it is not a white racialist religion.

          • Pelagian

            But it’s a *race realist* religion. That’s all you need.

            Plus its non-Utopian. Most of the trouble we in the white community are running into is this idea of millenialism, zion-ism (small z deliberate, i.e. that there is a “Zion” somewhere that the elect will inhabit). Millennarianism, chiliasm, etc. … in short, Protestantism (a neo-Judaic form of Christianity) is the source of the idea that you take up the sword (whether it be a literal sword or the sword of political correctness/politics) to create a perfect Earth. Americans, via the Puritans, are deeply imbued with it, even most atheists. Some millennarianists view blacks as equals (and therefore all social ills have to be eliminated) or as non-elect “charges” (still requiring the believer to strive to eradicate all the blacks’ social ills, out of a sense of gratitude for being one of the elect).

          • Anna Tree

            How is Christianity a race realist religion? Just because it sorts the humans in 3 groups (nothing about Chinese or Australian Arborigines though) and many languages doesn’t make it a race realist in my opinion. But I am ready to change my mind if you show me racialist statements from the Old or New Testament, thank you.

            Are you saying that non-Protestant Christians don’t see blacks are equals?

            I think whites need a religion for whites. Christianity was for whites only at the beginning, this is now not anymore because Christianity was never only for whites. Although Jesus and most of the Saints and famous Christians are whites, Levantine at the beginning then Mediterranean and Nordic, it was never implied that Christians can only be white and it is why Christianity is not a white racialist religion. Created by whites, so a white religion yes, but nowadays this is not enough, it needs to be much clearer so it cannot be highjacked as it is today when more and more don’t see any problems to claim that Jesus was an Arab or Santa Claus can be black.

            Also for me a white racialist religion would be about evolution and therefor clearly about race realism. It’s evolution that explains the real causes of the diversity between the races: behavioral, intellectual, hormonal, physical etc differences.

            But Pelagian, we can definitively agree to disagree. I hope you know we all need each others when we are so few and that you don’t mind having an atheist as an ally. I don’t mind having you guys as ally: would stand with you against anti-white atheists any day!

            Have a wonderful week!

        • Edruezzi

          Maybe Kanye West could go wave that flag with them.

    • newscomments70

      Honduras is mostly black and mestizo. They have a crime rate similar to South Africa and make Mexico seem quiet and nice. Countries such as Chile, Argentina, and Uruguay are mostly white. Argentina looks more Southern European, but the others have lighter features, more blonds and freckles, etc. Chile even has even adopted German army traditions: uniforms, music, marching…not the sissified German army of today, but from WWII and before. I have spent time in South America. It is not an easy place to live. Economies, currencies and governments are unstable. Street crime is high. Organized crime is dominant, constantly harassing small business owners. I worked in Buenos Aires. Simply driving a car was a death defying act. Pickpocketing and mugging were a daily occurrence. Los Angeles seems like a much safer city than Buenos Aires. Traveling to South America would be an exciting , fulfilling, experience, but it is not a paradise nor a white refuge. It is often worse than here.

      • 123MariaOconnor123

        Argentina like USA is receiving thousands of undocumented emigrants, and they go directly to Buenos Aires (capital). However, if you try to live in smaller cities, there is not crime.

        • I looked into moving to Argentina’s Bahia Blanca area after I was cut loose from federal probation, but the proclivity of South American governments to nationalize private property left me a bit cold. Their current lunatic screwed Spanish investors over an oil-drilling project, and is whining about the Falklands again. If they can call the Falkland Islands “Las Malvinas”, I am going to rename Argentina “Fred” and demand that the current squatters inhabiting it leave my land.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Are you from the Malvinas/Falkland Islands. I met a lot of them in Argentina. Remember, some of them still attend bi-lingual argentineans school, free of charge.

          • Much worse; I’m originally from Ohio.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Ohio is beautiful during summer time. Don’t worry about the proclivity of South American governments to nationalize private
            property, because, foreign & local investment make a lot of money, in those countries.

      • 123MariaOconnor123

        Argentina is home to South America’s largest Irish community and the
        world’s fifth largest among the Irish Diaspora; 30% of the population
        are of Italian ancestry, also a great number are of German ancestry. Argentina, since, 2004 has an estimated 1.000,000 unauthorized
        immigrants, and they are debating over what to do about unauthorized
        emigration from Bolivia, Paraguay, Peru and even from Central America. Argentina and Uruguay are the only two Latin American countries with welfare system.

      • Bantu_Education

        Your post is spot-on. Another thing I would mention is that, if you are a dog lover, S.America may make you sad – so many strays in bad condition. Chile is particularly bad in this respect considering it is supposed to be the most advanced economy.

    • newscomments70

      I once stayed at the Hilton in Argentina. Before I left home, I read about the warnings of street crime. I made sure to take precautions. I always dressed down, wearing construction clothes. I did not carry my wallet, passport, credit cards, etc. I only carried about $30 in cash and possibly one credit card. I did not hail a taxi (many taxi drivers will rob you at knifepoint). I did not use the subway, nor walk down dangerous streets. I only stayed on a certain path and used hotel transportation.

      I noticed some a Swedish group of males staying in the hotel. They were wearing bright colored clothes, fanny packs, straw hats, flashy watches and jewelry.They looked so ridiculous, I had to cringe. I warned them about street crime and not attracting attention. They laughed my warning off, believing I was a paranoid, racist American. They were carrying all of their money, passports and ID in their fanny packs. They weren’t mugged in the street. They were actually mugged in the vestibule of the hotel. They were surrounded by a group of hispanics, overpowered, and had to hand over everything. These emasculated, weak men almost deserved to be robbed. They disgust me. Hopefully such events will convince more whites to wake the hell up.

      • 123MariaOconnor123

        Do you know that in Argentina, only 25% of the population has Spanish surnames?

        • newscomments70

          I liked that aspect of Argentina and I met many interesting people there. Unfortunately, the fact remains that it is a dangerous third world country.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            All depends where you lived.

    • Edruezzi

      The best place for whites to go is another planet. The Star Trek scenario has the ring of SF, but it’s a lot better than founding a white homeland. In fact the white homeland idea is whacked out. The planet has shrunk. The negro can go anywhere. We have been discovering exoplanets and those offer a better prospect. I mean, 99% of Africans cannot understand the concept that they live in a planet orbiting a star anyway.
      Look for the book Why the West Has Won by Victor Davis Hanson. The early pages show a map of expanding European and Western military conquest from the battle of Salamis in 480 BC to the Tet offensive in 1968. It is in the nature of Western man to reach for the horizons, to conquer, to strive and never to yield or retreat.

  • Pelagian

    On a side note, its hard to believe that the beauty queen came out of that father. He looks like a Venezuelan Van Morrison. (See the fathers video plea at the Daily Mail link).

    • Jack Burton

      She’s not that attractive really, she’s a mestiza/castiza with perhaps slightly more neoteny and facial symmetry than the average.

      Probably a lot of idiots here than think both of them are White, wrong. The male also has admixture from the father, he’s atypical for British Whites.

      • 123MariaOconnor123

        Her last name is British (father side) and German (mother side), she may have some Spanish blood. In South America, is ilegal to change your last name and nobody will try to pass for white, because, race is not an issue.

        • Jack Burton

          “Mónica Spear born to Rafael Spear Tudares and Ingeborg Mootz Gotera”

          You’re full of fallacious arguments aren’t you. Someone’s name does not establish their race.

          Nobody will try to pass for White, are you crazy? The majority of the “white” population in South America are significantly racially mixed. Check DNA studies.

    • 123MariaOconnor123

      The beauty queen, Monica Spear Mootz is of British and German ancestry. Spear is her paternal last name (English) & Mootz is her maternal last name (German) and she married Henry Thomas Berry a British man. You have to live more than a decade in any South American country, in order to know your way around, there is not racial hate, but usually big cities are a melting pot, and there areas heavily populated by Europeans.

  • MekongDelta69

    ‘Nice’ touch:
    They show the faces of the victims, but black out [pun intended] the faces of the perps.

    • IstvanIN

      Like we could tell the difference between their sub-Saharans and our sub-Saharans.

  • NotTooSwift

    Darn, the suspects look African-American. Hmmm.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      They look like the Colombian donkey effers I saw in that Vice World short on youtube about donkey effing in Colombia.

      I highly recommend it. Key word search “vice world” and something like “donkey sex” and enjoy.

      People…not…like…us!

  • dd121

    Don’t laugh. The US is on a Brazil trajectory.

  • Spartacus

    Why would anyone who can live anywhere move to a mud-infested area ? Why ?

  • IstvanIN

    Blacks, or nearly black, which is the same thing.

  • Good for London! I hope all that “gun-control” is working out for you! Merry old England has been telling the USA what to do about guns and blacks for decades.

    • Jack Burton

      This didn’t happen in Britain.

      • Venezeula? That’s even better! They’re supporting communist Cuba and shipped an F-16 to Iran.

  • Max Krakah

    interesting, they divorced each other, but were together at the end.

    • Pelagian

      That’s so foreign to me. If they get along so damn well, why did they not stay married? They had a daughter together and everything!? Oh yes … “Finding themselves” … and the metaphysical possibility that there is someone an iota better for them somewhere in the world that they are being *blocked* from.

      And we wonder why we have gay marriage ….

  • Truth Teller

    This kind of thing goes on all over S America and Mexico. It had nothing to do with race. The reason they were targeted is because unlike the Hispanic rich in those countries they drove an ordinary car and had no bodyguards. The S. American rich never leave the house unless in an armored car with body guards, if possible 3 cars, bodyguards in front and back.

    • 123MariaOconnor123

      Which South American country are you talking about? Because, in Uruguay, in Chile, etc. you do not need bodyguards. We should stop stereotyping.

      • M.

        I think he means the countries which are loaded with mutts like these caught. You know, the ones where most of their Conquistador ancestors couldn’t keep their… male members in their pants – see, moderators, I said “male members”! No need to censor me again. –
        Venezuela, Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Brazil, … You get the picture.

        • In the Spanish Americas, the original immigrants were mainly single men. Since there were very few white women, and those were married to important men, the muchachos co-habited with the local women.

          • Bantu_Education

            The same thing happened in the Cape under VOC (Dutch) rule – for the first 100 years or more – probably right up to the British occupation in 1795 and even after that – there were very few single white women.

          • M.

            I think the thing that made the most difference between northern Germanic America and Latin America was the whites/Natives ratio. In North America, Europeans outnumbered the Natives after a certain point. By a lot. So they successfully absorbed them. Regardless of how many intermarriages occured. So today, most whites who have Native ancestry in the U.S. or Canada only have traces of it. I mean, nobody considers Brad Pitt Native for example.

            In Latin America, the European/Amerindian ratio was much more in favor to the latter.

          • Luca

            The conquistadors generally butchered all the local males or worked them to death then took their women as concubines. Little did they know they were setting the stage for a future disaster by passing along their strong immune-system while simultaneously creating a new sub-class of progeny lovingly known as mestizos.

            Hence, the distinct modern-day differences in the populations between North America and Latin America.

          • The extirpation of Amerinds was rarely deliberate. It was imported diseases that really did the job: smallpox, tuberculosis, measles, etc. A new disease typically goes through a virgin population like a forest fire. The same thing happened in Australia, Tasmania, the various South Pacific islands and Alaska.

          • Luca

            It was all you said plus, culture clash, firewater and manifest destiny/eminent domain.

            My point was that the Spanish decided to create mestizos, which in turn created bacterial immunity, which in turn created the current mestizo populations.

            North Americans never took Indian concubines in the way the Spanish did.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Each Latin America country has a different demographic. Some countries were heavily populated when the conquistadors arrived, like Mexico, Central American countries and Peru (Aztec, Mayas, Incas). Other countries were scarcely populated by mostly nomads, like Chile, Argentina, Uruguay.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Yes is true, that the first wave of immigrants was composed by single Spanish and Portuguese men that co-habited with the local women. However, the Spanish and the Portuguese Crown sent Jesuits to Christianize the Indians. The Jesuits were priest from all over Europe, and they discovered that most Indians lived either in the High Andes or in the Jungles.
            The prairies (pampas) were scarcely populated by nomads in some areas, but other areas were totally inhabited. At that time Catholics were suffering persecution in North West Europe and Ireland. Starting around 1600 Catholic Europeans from those countries settled primarily in the prairies. Irish mercenaries fought in the Independence wars, and they stayed in South America
            after independence and later another wave after the Irish Famine. The last wave of immigration occurred after the First & Second World War. Those South Americans countries have many
            people from a wide variety of ethnic, racial, national, and religious backgrounds and the demographic is different in each country, & also differs in each region of each country. Just like the demographics of Canada and USA is different and in the USA the demographics of Vermont, California and Hawaii are also very
            different.

          • Pelagian

            Your expertise is most welcome here.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Thanks. People tend to confuse the situation of Central America, with South America. Central America is composed of small countries and densely populated.
            The situation is different in South America which is composed of large countries, with great availability of natural resources and sparsely populated. In the last decade most South American
            countries have experienced great economic growth; and due to this improvement in the economy, action is being taken by most South American countries to reduce poverty and improve the life quality of the people. South American countries are very diverse from the racial/ethnic point of view.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Pelagian: Thanks, you are very thoughtful. Never forget that knowledge is power.

    • M.

      It has everything to do with race. Who do you think are the rich who need bodyguards? Mostly full-blooded Spaniards, Portuguese, and other Europeans.

      They need bodyguards from whom? Mostly mestizoes and mulattoes.

  • Jack Burton

    I wouldn’t use the analogy of a unicorn for a mestizo beauty queen.

    Beauty queens are relative to the population or group they’re competing against, and especially in Western nations it’s very political not objective.

    A Negro “beauty queen” is still dog ugly compared to the European average.

    • 123MariaOconnor123

      That “mestiza” has English and German ancestry.

      • M.

        She definitely has Amerindian ancestry, and maybe some Iberian. The Germanic blood in her is secondary. Phenotype most often matches the genotype.

        There “are” ugly English and German people, but they still have the Western European fine traits. Especially around the nose. She doesn’t.

        • 123MariaOconnor123

          Some Europeans, even in places like Germany and Wales are dark haired. Did you see a picture of the welsh wife of Michael Douglas?

          • Pelagian

            Lindow man. found in a peat bog in England was a dark-haired Druid (with a trimmed mustache, beard and sideburns!). FWIW

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            You are right !

          • M.

            “Some Europeans, even in places like Germany and Wales are dark haired.”
            I know, but they still have Germanic features. She doesn’t.

            “In South America, nobody will try to pass for white, because, race is not an issue.”
            And we see how that turned out for them. There’s no such thing as a free meal.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Do you think that all South American are mixed? You have limited knowledge about South America.

          • M.

            I don’t think that, and I didn’t even say that. I say “she” was mixed.

          • Jack Burton

            The typical South American is mixed, even the “whites” are typically mixed, this is a genetic fact which obviously is a result of the way Latin American countries were colonized.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            The Jim Crow / one-drop rule, was invented by a bunch of ignorant people. I am European. I was born in Europe, I have red hair and blue eye. However, we are the mixture of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthal. We all have an ancestral African mother. Please, take the DNA test, you may get an unexpected result.

          • M.

            Yes, and we all belong to the Homo genus, who came from fish and other mammals. How far back do you want to go exactly?

            The fact is, we remained isolated from blacks at least 60,000 years, and different mutations and selections happened to each of us that resulted in differences that go deeper than skin color and bone shapes. Which is why wherever blacks are a majority, and wherever they rule the roost, their town/city/country will inevitably turn into Africa.

            Actually, the Neanderthal admixture is negligible (about 3% I think). So we’re mainly “Homo sapien”, and one can still see how different we are from the purebred Negroes. Just goes to show what thousands of years of isolation can do.

            Even if I discover that I have, say, 1% negroid admixture, I’m still not a Negro. I don’t look black, I don’t talk black, I don’t walk black, and I don’t reason like one. There’s nothing about me that has anything to do with the people who lived in sub-Saharan Africa for the last 75,000+ years. Just like there’s nothing Neanderthal about the people who have some negligible Neanderthal ancestry in them. So let’s stop that “we all have chimpy ancestors” thing.

            ——————————————————————

            “The Jim Crow / one-drop rule, was invented by a bunch of ignorant people.”

            Really?
            Walter Ashbey Plecker:
            – Doctor;
            – midwives educator;
            – inventor of a home incubator;
            – “His efforts are credited with an almost 50% decline in birthing deaths for black mothers;”
            – public health officer.

          • Jack Burton

            That’s an absurd argument. Race is not merely about hair color.

            Your racial IQ is obviously very low.

          • 123MariaOconnor123

            Probably, even considering that I am an Antropologist.

          • Jack Burton

            More likely you’re a pathological liar.

        • 123MariaOconnor123

          In South America, nobody will try to pass for white, because, race is not an issue. Her last name is British (father side) and German (mother side), she may have some Spanish blood. In South America, is ilegal to change your last name. She does not have Amerindian features.However, there are beautiful Amerindian women.

        • Jack Burton

          Look at her parents, it’s obvious.

          As a rule I don’t consider the creations of miscegenation to qualify as beautiful, it’s a sin against God and nature.

          Relative to other mestizas, she may fall on the more Europoid side, with greater neoteny and symmetry, but I do not find her beautiful.

          Beautiful women I can stare at and lose myself in, she is not one.

      • Jack Burton

        1. She is a mestiza, so your quotes are stupid.

        2. That’s what mestiza means, they are mixed with some European and Amerindian, duh.

        She is not purely European.

        • 123MariaOconnor123

          Well, probably you were able to check her DNA results to be so sure.

          • Jack Burton

            Do you need to check Obama’s DNA results to know he has African ancestry? Maybe you do because you have such limited comprehension.

            I don’t need to call you stupid, that is self-evident for anyone to see.

        • 123MariaOconnor123

          You don’t know if she is a Mestiza, she does not look like a Mestiza, she has Mediterranean type eyes (big and round). Nobody is purely European, not even Europeans, we are the mixture of Homo Sapiens (from Africa) and Neanderthal. I was born in Europe and I know my people. Please, stop with the nonsense

          • Jack Burton

            You’re some kind of a mongrelist I see, “no one is pure, we’re all mixed.” Well that is bullshit. It’s a fact that many people are pure, including myself, DNA tests prove it.

            When you start looking at very large populations, like whole countries, obviously there isn’t purity because historically there have been many migrations, conquests, mixing, etc, and we have not been under a racial hygiene program to control who is considered White, etc.

            Your arguments are nonsensical and fallacious, and apparently you have very poor eyesight and judgment.

            Archaic admixture and human evolution are irrelevant to the context of admixture from New World conquests.

  • Pelagian

    That’s a very well-written comment. You should register for disqus so that I can follow you.

    • Bantu_Education

      I agree, KD is one of my favourite commenters here.

  • William Allingham

    who leaves a first world country to live in south america? also rich whites in Latin America are not nice people, they tend to be plastic and cruel, they often think of themselves as movie stars because most people in those places are ugly (it sounds ridiculous but its true) although they boast about their European ancestry they would never dare to leave their backward countries because back in Europe they would have to deal with respecting other peoples rights and and not being more good looking than average.

    they also don’t spare in their exclusive clubs while the rest lives in unpaved streets and their expensive american franchises look like big cakes among horribly neglected streets and buildings.

    they believe their money sets them apart from the brown masses and they want to be Europeans as if culture and a human heart could be bought with stolen money but such inhuman and sick people i believe are the antithesis of a white society.

    • M.

      The “stolen money” part sounds dangerously like marxist rhetoric. But anyway, I think this photo sums up your comment quite well:

      Sao Paulo, Brazil

      • Bantu_Education

        Sao Paolo must be one of the ugliest cities on the planet (Africa aside) – and this in a supposedly “advanced” (comparatively-speaking) country,

      • William Allingham

        im sorry for that marxist rhetoric but for me truth goes first and just because they are white i wont blind myself in wishful idealizations when all evidence shows them to be very depraved whites, there are whites like that here and there (mostly elites) but i know they are the minority.
        much more whites love to work, create and improve, those are the ones for whom i stand but i will never move a finger in favor or to cover up those sick plastic-elite just because they are white.

    • 123MariaOconnor123

      You should read a little bit. South America received great waves of immigrants from Europe starting in the late 1600’s through early 1900’s at first due to religious persecution to Catholics and later due to Europeans famines, the government during the 1800’s awarded large tracts of land immigrants. The land was usually rich in natural resources and often the best land for farming.

      • William Allingham

        when you read more than a little bit you start to see where those lands came from what those rich are doing with the money and other unflattering details. when you have a lot of money and you form part of a community assuming you are a human then you are almost obliged to contribute in a greater way than a poor man, that’s why Europe is so beautifully paved with monuments and art, because aristocrats wanted to do that for the community and not only store their fortune with contempt for the masses.

    • 123MariaOconnor123

      They do not boast about their European ancestry; in the Southern Cone of
      South America, most of them are of European ancestry and why they are
      going to move to Europe or elsewhere, they are very rich, they own large
      states in South America.
      Most people don’t know the difference between Central America and South America.

      • William Allingham

        ok i admit theres great difference between some south american countries and central america, its just that sometimes get me uneasy to see careless and unskilled mexicans enjoying a better economy than they deserve just because they are a parasite of the USA while Argentina and others from the south are still striving in modesty, anyway the pattern is evident, the whiter the country in Latin America the more it approaches wealth and freedom, and the more indian and mestizo the more overpopulated, unjust and poor it gets no matter how artificially alive their economy is kept by the USA.

        But…who invented the idea that untalented countries in the third world are just like Germany or Switzerland just in slow motion?, an advanced country shows signs of its character throughout all of its history no matter how modest the beginning, in mexico people see no connection between their culture and their situation and are extremely conformist and denying of their mistakes. since before the conquest they have always had hostile societies and been uncooperative so maybe they already found their way but with our western irrational standards we are still waiting for them to actually do something.

  • 123MariaOconnor123

    South Americans, are not Mexican. People, please, take a book and read once in a while.

  • Anna Tree

    Wow… didn’t enjoy… quite disgusting… another huge racial difference in behavior… people not like us indeed… Another reason to be thankful to be white. Of course some do those things in our countries too, BUT it is not accepted, it’s seen as immoral, as sin and as disgusting and disturbing and it is a crime (although of course, the leftists may change that too… orientation, equal rights etc there is no limit to destroy our civilization family values and our future)

    I wonder if there is less rape, less paedophily, less homosexuality, less cheating with other women, less going to prostitutes (well that one maybe I know).
    I wonder if there are sexual diseases that could be acquired by humans (well now I see the guy talked about condoms, but he seems to hint human STDs, I wonder about a donkey STDs, a donkey HIV with a d instead of a m, that’s all)..

    • M.

      Yes, when something is so widespread and accepted that it becomes “cultural”, it shows that something is wrong with the people as a whole, not just some individuals.

      Isn’t enjoying oneself with an animal still cheating? Is having extramarital sex with a man or an animal less serious than with a woman? If the degree of enjoyment is the measure, then probably not. Especially if the person is homosexual or zoophilic.

      Animals, humans included, do have STD’s within their respective species. But they rarely cross species barriers. In this respect, bestiality is rather safe.

      • Anna Tree

        About your second paragraph, oh my I wasn’t wondering what is better or worse or more enjoyable. Don’t really want to think about the issue in those terms. I don’t need to and hope will not need to ever, although I could have an opinion if I wish, but again no need to, there are other issues more important to me and to you I am sure and to the world right now.

        It is just that I was wondering if in those society where bestiality/zoophily is accepted, there is less rape, cheating, homosexuality, prostitutes and pedophils. Maybe that doctor in the movie could answer, or an anthropologist, but I presume such research would be branded as racist…