Catholic Church Set to Launch Mass Immigration Amnesty Pitch

Cheryl K. Chumley, Washington Times, August 22, 2013

The Catholic Church has put the word out to the faithful: Come September, the papacy will be pushing for a widespread and comprehensive immigration reform package on Capitol Hill that will open the doors to citizenship to roughly 11 million illegals.

The church announced the plans last week. Starting Sept. 8, services at participating churches around the nation will include a pulpit-generated push for amnesty, including a call for pew members to get involved, the New York Times reported.

“We want to try to pull out all the stops,” Kevin Appleby, the director of immigration policy at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, told the Times. “They have to hear the message that we want this done, and if you’re not successful during the summer, you’re not going to win by the end of the year.”

Among the church’s plans are scheduled marches and telephone blitzes to the offices of 60 Catholic House Republicans, demanding immigration reform. Speaker of the House John Boehner, along with nearly 130 other members of the legislative body, are Catholic.

At the community level, bishops and priests across the nation are planning to coordinate their Sunday services to include immigration reform throughout September, the Times reported.

At least a dozen already have agreed to hold special Sunday masses in September dedicated to pushing immigration reform as Congress returns to session.

{snip}

Topics: , ,

Share This

We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate. If you log in with a social media account, your comment should appear immediately. If you prefer to remain anonymous, you may comment as a guest, using a name and an e-mail address of convenience. Your comment will be moderated.
  • FourFooted_Messiah

    Mrf. Just anotyher sign that the church is not only irrelevant to atheists, but to any other right thinker as well.

    I am brother to the black in the same way I’m brother to the bat. But I like bats better than blacks, they have more use to them in eating mosqitoes.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      Yeah…I once had respect for the church, married into it.

      But…yet another betrayal. Getting used to it by now I guess.

      • stewball

        They deleted 2 messages of mine!

        • NeanderthalDNA

          What? Where?

          Sometimes it is a mod, sometimes disqus does strange things.

          • stewball

            One I mentioned something about so many Catholics will be in the country and second about them burning people.

  • http://twitter.com/AgentAxis D.B. Cooper

    One of the lost Nostradamus images. Women start turning their back on the Catholic Church.

    • Romulus

      It could have had something to do with all of the “witch” burnings.

      • White Mom in WDC

        Thank you. The Catholic Church hates any independent thinker period. It is in the business of providing fodder for Pedophiles to prey upon.

      • stewball

        The Catholics used to like burning people

      • ThomasER916

        After witnessing Feminism, FEMEN, Code Pink, Occutards, and the plethora of Feminist Crypto-Rabbis I fully support witch burnings.

  • OlderWoman

    Catholic Charities benefit from this.

    • IstvanIN

      Government funded refugee resettlement program gets them big bucks.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Yes you always follow the money,I use to be a Mennonite now I am just a whiteman and the one thing I know is we have to band together as whites as our most important goal.

        • me

          Yup. We need our own nation.

    • jeffaral

      The people who run the charities benefit from this.

    • Erasmus

      This reminds me of what PAWS does: When they don’t have enough strays to find homes for, they import them from Puerto Rico.

      Professional do-gooders are now, by and large, poverty pimps. Charitable work should return to being carried out and financed by volunteers. No one should be using it to make a living.

      I will not be listening to the next pitch by Catholic charities for money nor from the diocese during their annual appeal. (How sick I am of hearing “Dig deep!”) I will not be there, and I am going to educate my family and catholic friends about what a scam catholic charities has now become.

  • Evette Coutier

    The Catholic church has turned on its own just as the rino republicans did. We need a few organizations to turn back into our column.

    • evilsandmich

      I think that they might be beyond hope in that regard. I think the only thing that keeps them treading water in the U.S. is lethargy, and Catholics who want to send their kids to private schools.

      • Erasmus

        When the Catholic parishes are over run by latinos they and their schools won’t be worth a damn.

        Latin American Catholicism is only a step and a half above voodoo.

        • me

          Be careful, or Santa Muerte (the patron saint of drug dealers and drug gangs) will get you!

          • Erasmus

            There is a grocery store in the neighborhood with excellent prices, a broad selection of merchandise and good produce but with the one downside that it’s overrun with Mexicans and Guatemalans, and they sell Santa Muerte votive candles there. If you want to know how sick latino culture is, just look at the growing devotion to Santa Muerte among latinos.

            The Democrats left me years ago, the Republicans definitely when duh-byah tried to ram through amnesty and now the catholic church is. I will not support anyone that pushes for the destruction of my country, my family and my culture.

        • foundingstockcracker

          Actually they practice voodoo-Catholicism in N.O., look it up.

          • OlderWoman

            But Catholicism is the church of death. Look how they pray to their dead saints. And bones of dead ‘saints’ are under the altar. Catholics venerate body parts of dead people. It is sheer paganism.

          • foundingstockcracker

            Yes, the Catholic Church is total paganism. They also added to and took away from the Holy Writ and made dishonest translation to support their pagan universalism.

  • IstvanIN

    Where in the Bible does it say a people have a RIGHT to invade another people’s nation break it’s laws and then be rewarded for doing so? Where?

    • AutomaticSlim

      As you of course already know, it says just the opposite — the Tower of Babel story…

  • je suis paganisme

    The old gods are arising. They never died, they just retreated.
    They will arise upon the ruins of a spent Christian Church, a Church that has deceived and betrayed the Europeans who supported it, fought for it, died for it, and even committed atrocities against their own people in its name.
    The old gods will call men to rally around Europe and her people, and it will not be pleasant. They will not offer men a cheap and easy salvation–the times are too far gone for that, and Europeans no longer believe the harsh salvific theories of an alien race.
    The old gods will offer Europeans truth, integrity and a deserved pride in their race, their ancestors and their posterity.

    • Romulus

      Aahhh!!!! Dreams of VALHALLA!

    • Lagerstrom

      Sounds good JSP, but I’m not too optimistic in that department. The cheap entertainment, facebook-television people aren’t even interested in history and wouldn’t have a clue about old gods or even their own heritage.

    • serious123

      The catholic church like most thrive on ignorance. That’s why they taught services in Latin so long. Finally as people became educated enough to realize it was just mumbo jumbo they actually started sermons. As women turned away from birth control they ignored it. Either that or lose the flock. Abortion is of course still on the agenda as it is with many faithsand even atheists and is a more contestable issue. Count on them to always go for the uneducated and gullible masses. Not to say a lot of bright people were so indoctrinated in youth that they still follow the faith out of fear more than conviction I believe,Scalia included, but that is also true with every faith.

      • David Ashton

        The Mass in Latin, a near-universal language for a sacred drama.
        Sermons, instructions, reading matter and pictures in the local vernaculars.

      • stewball

        Re abortion. A woman’s body is her own she and only she should decide for herself what she wants to do with her body. Not some loco man who thinks he has the given right to tell an unknown woman what to do and threaten unknown women or some religious female.

    • jackryanvb

      Outside of Internet reading groups, loner middle aged men, Lefty, Vegan, lesbian Wicca, don’t see much organized White Pagan communities.

      You can’t get a white wife or a job being pro White Pagan.

      Wish it were so.

      • OlderWoman

        Google Wicca Meetups in your area. They are thriving in my town, Nashville. Nashville was once majority Christian but now they are erecting gods and goddess statues all over town. New Age thought has escalated. My town has become a breeding ground for Satanism.

    • David Ashton

      European revival, yes.
      Thor, Zeus & Cerunnos, probably not.

    • Bossman

      Dionysus used to be the chief one. Wine, women and song, I’m okay with that. As for old Zeus, he seduced his sister Hera and married her under false pretenses, after that he slept with his sister Demeter an then tried to hump every other god and also the pretty boy Ganymede.

    • me

      I hope you’re talking about Odinism and not Cuthulu….

    • jeffaral

      Europeans are a race of the forest. A semitic religion from the desert belongs in the desert., not in Europe

    • Wethepeople

      Our warriors will rise, red flags will burn.

      My race is the greatest and always will be.

  • David Ashton

    What are the real reasons for this?

    Nothing in Scripture or Tradition, as rules of faith as conceived by the Catholic Church, justifies this sanction of criminality.

    In the parable of the Good Samaritan, a temporary foreign visitor showed, through personal kindness at his own expense, how patriots ought to behave towards their own kith and kin, in this case a neglected victim of vicious criminals. It was not an instruction to admit thousands of nearby Samaritans as permanent settlers in Israel, let alone hundreds of thousands of Egyptians, Romans, Persians or Babylonians.

    • Romulus

      Insanity and open ended interpretation are now the norm.

      • David Ashton

        The Reformation’s revenge (i.e. chaos)!

        • Romulus

          I don’t even recall the denomination protestant I was raised with. I do remember the preacher,though. Irish-German. His service was always a perfect blend of sensible Christian doctrine and euro pagan/animism. I hope I don’t give the readers the impression of anti Christian or atheism. To the contrary, I say. I just know it’s history intimately. I haven’t forgotten where it comes from and how it came to Europe,… Or by whom.

          • David Ashton

            I am neither a Christian nor a Jew, but I can find positive things in both Christianity and the Hebrew scriptures. Irrespective of my critical view of the collection of books made by the Roman Catholic Church called the Bible, I do not believe that anything therein justifies either mass-immigration into the “white nations” or global miscegenation.

          • Romulus

            Neither do I, my friend. Heavy is my heart for our people. I ponder introspectively of what the future will behold. Are the people too engrossed in platitudes and material comforts too see the truth? I hope they begin to see the light! So to speak.

          • Romulus

            I understand you implicitly. Your dialogues are always thought provoking and I believe that we share quite alot of the same viewpoints. For a bit of twist in light reading, check out my comments with”formerly known as whiteplight” on the article,88 yr.old man gets best to death.

          • David Ashton

            Thank you, Romulus. See also my reply to Bossman re the OT. In any case I don’t think we have to follow what the ancient Hebrews did many centuries ago. Christianity has bequeathed an important heritage to the west, from the values of hard work, family life, and restraint of crime and vice, to much inspiration of art and music. I try to work for Euro-American unity whatever our “cosmological” differences. Divide our enemies, not our friends.

    • Bossman

      From the holy book of the Christians, the Bible: You shall not wrong or oppress an alien, for you were once aliens yourselves in the land of Egypt. (EXODUS 22:20). Cursed be anyone who deprives the alien, the orphan, and the widow of justice and all the people shall say amen (to that). (DEUTERONOMY 27:19).

      • David Ashton

        Alien invaders and alien criminals are not deprived of justice, wronged or oppressed, by immigration control, though the native population may be so deprived.

        “The differences between the various branches of the human family are so great that the fusion of races is not in any way desirable; and one cannot condemn absolutely measures to prevent it.” – RC Code of International Ethics (1953) n.57.

        • Bossman

          I agree with you that the USA does not have any moral obligation to take in unauthorized aliens. That is not my point. My point is that some of you in this forum are trying to claim that Christianity approves of such measures when it doesn’t. The Bible does not teach that.

          • David Ashton

            Not sure whether you are saying the Bible does not teach approval of admitting unauthorized aliens or dsapproval. There are lots of things in that collection of documents that are no longer relevant to the politics &c of the world in 2013, and there is nothing in there about nuclear fission, cyber warfare or helicopters.

          • Bossman

            The Bible does not teach hatred for immigrants. It teaches kindness for the wanderer, the stranger, the sojourner, the itinerant, the alien.

          • David Ashton

            The Bible is not (as Jehovah’s Witnesses and most Baptists suppose) a self-explanatory, internally consistent, totally inerrant single textbook, written by God, but a fourth-century selection of different documents, written over many centuries, which are subject to historical and ethical criticism like any others.

            The ancient Hebrew documents in that collection “teach” much that might seem irrelevant or unacceptable today, including the divorce of foreign women and ethnocide. There is nothing, therein, however to deny an indigenous government the right to determine who should enter or remain in its territory, but the implication was always that any sojourners would be culturally compatible.

            The Hebrew “scriptures” use different words for “stranger” or “alien”:
            (1) “Ger” or “tosab” means long-term sojourner or settler. Such people must not be oppressed, but are nevertheless expect to conform with the native laws and customs, and almost all the religious requirements. Israelites could buy their offspring as slaves.
            (2) “Nokri” means “foreigner”, someone of different race or religion.
            (3) “Zar” means “outsider”, someone who does not belong to the nation and could be considered an enemy.

            Hospitality towards a harmless visitor, trader or traveller is a different matter, though remember that dietary and marital rules kept such people at a social distance, as is also the case today with Orthodox Jewish households in both Israel and the “diaspora”.

            The NT parable of the kind Samaritan is a lesson in what it means properly to love your own people. “Who is my neigbor?” refers to the injured Israelite, ignored by two “religious” people of his own ethnicity who are put to shame by the kindness of a visitor. It is not about inviting foreigners to settle in the country.

            Incidentally, there is a good essay on both the concept of “neighbor” and the Samaritans by Michael Fagenblat in Amy-Jill Levine & Marc Zvi Brettler (eds) “The Jewish Annotated New Testament” (OUP 2011) pp.540-543.

          • OlderWoman

            You haven’t gone far enough. The one requirement of them was that they could NOT worship foreign gods and live among the Israelites.

          • Sick of it

            I don’t recall the scripture that says destroy your own people for the sake of foreign invaders.

          • OlderWoman

            What the Old Testament say is that ‘strangers” could live among the Hebrews and have equal rights as long as they didn’t worship foreign gods.

      • Sick of it

        Exactly. Let’s give them their just desserts. Oh wait, they may not like that very much.

      • Erasmus

        We should do like the Israelis and forcibly deport our illegals. We don’t have to deport our illegals all at once, but we can make a start.

        In the interest of compassion, we’ll make sure the busses they’re shackled in for their return trip are air conditioned.

        • Bossman

          The USA deports people everyday but it doesn’t seem to make any difference in the numbers.

      • stewball

        I think you are quoting from the Jewish bible not the Christian one. Your quotes are from the Old Testament.

        • Bossman

          Most of the Jewish Bible is in the Christian Bible too. The Jewish Bible is called the Torah and is composed of the first five books of the Old Testament which is part of the Christian Bible. I’m surprised that you don’t know that. In the Torah, God commands the Hebrews to be kind to aliens over forty times.

          • stewball

            Just because the Christians stole from the old testament it doesn’t mean they said. Let’s face it almost everything in the new testament is stolen from the old and I wasn’t talking about the Torah I was talking about the whole new testament. Some of what you quoted isn’t in the Torah. I’m surprised you don’t know that.

          • stewball

            I meant the old testament of course.

          • Bossman

            I’m wasting my time with you. You’re a totally confused person.

          • stewball

            Who came first? The Jews or the Christian?What came first? The Old Testament or the new testament?

          • David Ashton

            Your assertion that “almost everything [sic] in the [whole] New Testament is stolen [sic] from the Old” is simply not correct.

        • OlderWoman

          The Old Testament is both Jewish and Christian. The first five books are called the Torah.

      • Romulus

        The old testament is pretty much the Talmud as it applies to Jewish doctrine. One can argue it’s historical application to indigenous Europeans.

  • serious123

    Don’t think it would have anthing to do those south of border folks being catholic do you? Nah.

    • Lagerstrom

      No at all. They wouldn’t be thinking about those one-quarter empty churches filling-up come amnesty…would they?

    • David Ashton

      A sort of “Catholic” many of them. The “multifaith” nutters – RC & Protestant – don’t mind importing Muslims, Hindus, Taoists and Animists either. One faith for many races (external mission) replaced by one race with many faiths (internal miscegenation). Not quite the idea the Pale Galilean had in mind c. 2000 years ago.

      Jingle Tills here in 4 months – get those menorah candles in the window, folks!

      • Bossman

        Well, at least, Christianity is a much more tolerant religion than Islam. One of the rules of Islam is convert or die. And once you’ve converted and you change your mind, you should be put to the sword. The Pale Galilean is just an icon.

        • Glickstein44

          “Christianity is a much more tolerant religion than Islam” Perhaps,but one thing is not contestable…Islam is much more kinder to Jesus Christ than Talmudists who have subverted organized Christianity. The “pale Galilean” is my Lord & Savior.

    • SFLBIB

      Let me get this straight. The Church wants more “south-of-the-border” folks in the U.S., knowing they will vote for Democrat politicians, who, by the way, have a history of persecuting the Church? Why would the Church want more Democrats? Something doesn’t compute.

      • serious123

        I never said the Catholic church wanted more people because they were democrats. They want them because of money. Besides which there is no proof that the democrats, who have welcomed all kinds of nut job religions to this country, have persecuted the Catholics

        • SFLBIB

          “I never said the Catholic church wanted more people because they were democrats.”

          I know it, but that’s not the point I was trying to make.

          “…there is no proof that the democrats, who have welcomed all kinds of nut job religions to this country, have persecuted the Catholics.”

          Try looking at it from a Catholic’s point of view.

          • serious123

            I stand corrected, missed the question mark at the end of your sentence.

          • SFLBIB

            Peace. :-)

    • OlderWoman

      It has everything to do with importing more catholics. The church will rake in a killing due to selling candles, indulgences, and staging those ridiculous carnivals. Alcoholism will increase. Rapes, burglaries, pedophilia, prostitution and murders will also increase. The Jesuits intention is to give everyone legal rights to practice their perversions.

  • Greg S

    Well maybe their contributions will make up for mine, since this is the reason I first left the Episcopal Church, and now the Catholic Church. This issue, and pushing acceptance of gays in the pulpit.

    • Romulus

      Agreed!

    • Spartacus

      I hear good things about a group called Christian Identity. Might wanna take a look at them.

  • John Ulfsson

    No wonder why protestant America used to feel threatened by the Catholic church.

    • 1gravity

      The Romans brought bishops with them, a huge annoyance.

    • Sick of it

      They were social justice liberals pushing for all of the things we hated most decades ago. Just more of the same.

  • Spartacus

    “We want to try to pull out all the stops,” Kevin Appleby,
    the director of immigration policy at the United States Conference of
    Catholic Bishops, told the Times. “They have to hear the message that we want this done, and if you’re not successful during the summer, you’re not going to win by the end of the year.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Why do pedophiles have any kind of moral high ground ?

    • Romulus

      LA purga and Oct 13,1307 we’re good dates for the RC CHURCH.

  • http://www.paradisegone.com/ r j p

    There is no Catholic Church any more, just CINOs.

    • Lagerstrom

      This should prove once and for all that the ‘catholic church’ is just a racket.

  • Romulus

    The catholics have lost the whites that used to fill their coffers and pews. Nothing more. Hispanics are overwhelmingly catholic. It doesn’t take a rocket scientists to figure this one out.

    • Xerxes22

      They may fill their pews but not their coffers. The Hispanics are a drain on the Catholic Church financially. It’s the Euro-Americans who pay the bills. The Church has to spend a lot of money on programs for Hispanics. The government does not pay the church for many of these programs. The bishops believe they are doing God’s work by pushing for anmesty.and open borders. They probably also believe that by doing this, God will forgive them for certain sins of omission.

      • BonusGift

        Bingo; they have confused parasite with godly, and genocide with Christianity. In the end it’s simple suicide for the church as it will not be self-sustaining without surplus funds which the central American Indians will never produce/provide (actually, like blacks, they simply aren’t capable of providing). It’s long been time to write off the catholic church as just another government controlled instrument of our genocide.

      • Romulus

        Not when you have millions upon millions. Numbers alone could make the difference. Not long ago , the pope gave a sermon on the beach outside rio to an estimated 4 to 6 million. At least 70% of Mexico, Latin and south America are catholic.

  • MerlinV

    Gracias Pope Francis!

  • storibund

    ….which is why Moldbug’s term “the Cathedral” really isn’t that far off the mark.

    • me

      Yup. He’s brilliant. Everyone should read the “Unqualified Reservations” blog…along with “RadishMag”.

  • IKantunderstand

    And the churches of America wonder why people stopped attending. Here is another example. And yet, Americans are still more religious than other White countries. But, as organized religion has become complicit in the cultural marxist agenda, more and more disaffected Christians are leaving. Exactly what is wanted. We are so screwed. I stopped attending church because of the social agenda being shoved down my throat. I admit, I never spoke up, I never voiced a word of complaint. I was being your typical White person. OOH, I don’t like what you are saying, I feel the disapprobation that might come my way, so, screw it, I’m out of here. OOH, Blacks are moving into my neighborhood, so, screw it, I’m out of here. ENOUGH! Let us apply “Stand your Ground” laws to every aspect of OUR country!

    • BonusGift

      I like that line: “ENOUGH! Let us apply “Stand your Ground” laws to every aspect of OUR country!”

    • Sick of it

      Cling to the faith as presented in the Bible itself. Who cares what modern heretics think or feel about various issues? “We ought to obey God rather than men.” Acts 5:29

  • evilsandmich

    One of these Catholic social service creatures was at the town hall put on by my rep; he called on her expressly so that he could say that ‘enforcement first’ would be what would come out of the House (if anything). They are the worst kind of poverty pimps: people whose livelihood depends on ruining the country so that they can have job security in tending to a never ending stream of poverty and problems that they themselves are causing. The only thing possibly worse than their goals is their infuriating self-righteousness given their total hostility to their fellow Americans.

  • evilsandmich

    That might be an over-reach, perhaps, but certainly soiling on organized religion, and stunts like this don’t help. I guess the Catholic church can’t get enough of that government gravy.

  • evilsandmich

    Not sure if they still do, but there was a Lutheran (I believe) church down in Cincinnati that did masses in German. Why can’t they get more of their people to come over?

  • Ella

    Actually, four major religious denominations play a role in supporting open borders through congressional lobbying groups: Baptist, United Methodist, Catholic and Jewish. They should tax them if they continue to remain active in national politics.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aunti-Occupy/100003232140389 Aunti Occupy

    THEY NEVER DID THIS FOR PRO-LIFE

    Even when asked. The Bishops were never seen at anti-abortion marches but they always made sure they were in the front of Civil Rights marches.

    • evilsandmich

      In high school the priests expounded constantly on the evils of abortion, you’d think nothing else mattered at times. Then when the election came around up when the Dukakis stickers. When called on the inconsistency, they were full of vapid social justice B.S.

      • rightrightright

        Roman Catholicism and Protestant groups have all been nobbled by the Left. Touchy, feely, kumbaya singers, self righteously rendering to God that which is Caesar’s while bowing and scraping to all things islamic. I can’t go to church any more because of this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aunti-Occupy/100003232140389 Aunti Occupy

    THEY ARE DOING THIS TO KEEP THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS

    If they do not support Amnesty, Obama will eliminate their tax exempt status.

    • ThomasER916

      That’s just a small part of it. Another part is they’ve become Liberal Institutions where the Leftist (anti-white, anti-male, anti-western) Agenda has become their agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aunti-Occupy/100003232140389 Aunti Occupy

    No one goes to church in Mexico but US Bishops think the illegals will start to go when they get here. The Church should ask to be taxed so it can help pay for the illegal aliens benefits.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      The greasers build shrines to death, because they’re still just Aztecs.

  • bob

    Who couldn’t see this coming? The Catholic Church has lost many whites due to far-left wing ideology, so they want to import 30 million new brown Catholics.

    • evilsandmich

      There’s that and their stand on birth control that no whites take seriously, though perhaps it’d do the country some good if they did.

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    Doesn’t politicking scuttle an organization’s tax-exempt status?

    Silly me; this is the Catholic Church we’re talking about.

    • Ella

      I once researched the refugee resettlement program. At first, I blamed the local cities for taking government bribes to settle 3rd World people into White communities, but this was not entirely the case. Many churches or nonprofit organizations volunteer to take refugees for Federal monies. For every dollar that they spent, they received 2 dollars back from the US govt. All the refugee programs tend to be sanctioned through the UN who aims to settle around 2 million p/y in Western Nations. I honestly do not see the citizens to have the power to stop these movements.

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        I know exactly how to stop these colonizations of the West, but speaking directly about this or actually doing it is illegal.

        When I am diagnosed with cancer someday, I will quit-claim everything over to my wife and daughter, wait the required year, and then I’ll do something about it.

        I doubt I’ll ever get cancer; I appear to be immune to most diseases, and it appears slow viruses cause many varieties of cancer. I’ll probably be KIA.

  • KenelmDigby

    What we need is a modern Martin Luther to nail some ‘theses’ to the Vatican door.

    • OlderWoman

      You said it. We need to stop the flow of illegals into this nation as predominately Catholic countries are steeped in crime and poverty. So much for Catholicism being Christian.

  • Viking_61

    Catholics… They are still trouble 50 years later.

    • evilsandmich

      I come from a line of Irish/Polish Catholics, and the difference between how I was raised and how the church’s politics are night and day. It’s one strength is that many people can go there to meet people like themselves; barring that, the place would cease to exist.

      • Viking_61

        Fair enough.

  • willbest

    The bible isn’t particularly fond of non-Christians, The church’s idea of opening the floodgates because some will be Christian is three shades of stupid.

    • ThomasER916

      It was understood early on that you do not allow traitors in your midst. Casting people out was considered righteous. Now that Jews have pushed Multiculturalism 24/7 throughout the Western World the idea of preserving European heritage and Christianity are considered “racist.”

      Ask someone if it’s OK to have a non-Christian run a Christian college and they’ll say OK. Meanwhile, Jews won’t let any non-Jew run a movie studio.

  • itdoesnotmatter

    Vatican City is the only country on the planet that is Islam-free. Come on Pope, practice the come-one-come-all kumbaya b/s that you preach. Invite ‘em in.

    • David Ashton

      In the past Saints have successfully opposed Popes.
      Militant Islam might stimulate some such opposition, though doubtful.
      “Europe is the Faith,” said Belloc. Is has become was.

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    They believe in being bullies and hurting women.

    • me

      If you mean bullies=murder & hurting women=raping and throwing acid in their face….then, yeah…..

  • David Ashton

    A Marxist lecturer explained it to this spy on the wall at a top multicultural planning centre in London years ago: We must bring in as many non-whites as possible to destroy white “racism”, and when that has been done, we must then destroy non-white “sexism”.

    • Bossman

      People preaching stuff like that are unhappy radical feminists and gays.

      • Lagerstrom

        Silly whining gay misfits. Never had a hope of fitting in anywhere.

      • David Ashton

        By careful “agenda networking” over three decades, such people and their sycophants now virtually rule the roost in Britain, from gay marriage propaganda in schools to enforced “diversity” legislation in the courts, employment and even bed&breakfast accommodation. There are unavoidable snags but “equality” doctrine drives itself on. The lecturer in question was a female communist of Jewish background from South Africa. If I ever get my book “The Murder of England” written and published, the whole process will be documented step-by-step.

        • Romulus

          I just started a book called The synagogue of satan. Very interesting reading dealing with an empirically chronological history of ” they who must not be named”

  • Erasmus

    Agreed.

    As a Catholic I say phvck the bishops. Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and render onto God what belongs to God. Even parishioners know when their leaders are talking out of their backsides.

    I think it’s time to look into the Orthodox church.

    I will stand idly by as a bunch of fruity old men who want to be called father but like to prance around in silk aid and abet throwing away our country.

    • stewball

      No offense but then your country will be overrun with catholics

    • Spartacus

      Orthodox Churches. There’s more than one, and they’re National Churches too, so you might feel out of place if you’re not an ethnic. My advice would be Protestantism, there’s a lot of small churches, especially in the South and Midwest, where the priests actually read the Bible .

      • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

        Why not just cut out the middleman and worship directly? If God can not understand you without a priest, then He is not God.

        • Spartacus

          Because most people are imbeciles, and they’ll stray off the right path without proper guidance. This is true beyond religion as well…

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      Take away the tax exempt status of religious institutions and watch them decrease by powers of ten. But simply switching brands will not free you or us from the interference of Christianity/religion in politics.

      “All religion is equally sublime to the ignorant, useful to the politician, and ridiculous to the philosopher.” – Lucretius 99-55 BCE

      (BCE = Before Common Era – Christianity doesn’t own history)

  • Filbert Brazil

    so it’s ok to agree with cardinal dolan’s horseshit, but not this? typical RWNJ hypocrisy. it’s why you poor unaware bastards lose and will continue to lose. you people really are a bunch of fcukin trailer trash, and deserve to die. your hate begets mine.

  • Bossman

    People eat these types of rodents all over the world. How is that different from rabbit stew? Hundreds of people in the USA get sick every year from eating improperly cooked meat.

  • mobilebay

    If the Church plans to support the invasion of our nation, at least they shoudn’t insult our intelligence by repeating the idiotic number of 11,000 million illegals in this country. We all, Washington included, know that number is only the beginning.

  • MBlanc46

    So this was the point of selecting a pope from Latin America?

  • Allan477

    I can remember, back in the 1950’s, reading editorials in a Catholic newspaper, speaking of the “right” of the Catholic Church to state support which was denied them by the evil Protestants. One way to get this support was to encourage immigration from RC countries, so Catholics could become a majority. This drive was toned down when Kennedy ran for president, but it would seem that it is right back up there.

  • Glickstein44

    The Catholic Church needs Mexicans in the same way Globalist Corporations want cheap labor. The Catholic Church has become another Sounding Board of Satan who now represents the tribe whom Jesus referred to in the old testament as ” Your father is Satan.”

  • MarkJReynolds

    This is why the early American’s were suspicious of Catholics. They knew they’d put the pope before the nation.

  • Bossman

    What exactly is the true Gospel? I’m desperate to hear it.

    • jeffaral

      There are thousands of different interpretations of the Bible. I personally have no time for all the bull#%$.

  • me

    More Mexican nationals, more Roman Catholics. More Roman Catholics, more money and power. More money and power, and we can go back to the good old days of the Roman Catholic rule, witch burning, and the Inquisition. All churches should be barred from any political advocacy, or pay enormous fines to a registered charity, like the Shriners Hospitals.

    • ravitchn

      These Mexicans will impoverish the Church. They put nothing in the collection plate because in their culture the church should give to them. They regard the church as rich. It isn’t anymore. In the SW Anglos are already leaving the Catholic church in droves.

  • Bossman

    Really??? How so? Please explain. I’m waiting patiently.

  • Bossman

    Law and morality are not necessarily the same thing.

    • DelmarJackson

      Of course, what is good for me is not for thee.

    • serious123

      I would agree with you they are not always the same thing, but looking at your bible quote and the other arguments you make it doesn’t follow to me. Can’t reconcile what you claim the bible says about aliens when the words in the first sentence are followed by the second which says those to be cursed are the ones denying aliens “justice” since justice is a legal concept, Or you can take the position morality and justice meant the same the same in the bible and therefore laws that disagree with bible are unjust. Theocracies believe that, just ask most Muslims, lots of Christians and all orthodox Jews.

  • Bossman

    Christianity began as a Jewish religion and then a decision was made to bring it to the Gentiles. A Turkish-born Jew, Saul of Tarsus, did much to spread it around the Mediterranean. The New testament makes reference to an Ethiopian eunuch being converted by one of the apostles.

    • David Ashton

      The eunuch was returning to Ethiopia, was baptised, and went on his way back home (Acts 8.29,39).

  • SFLBIB

    Well, here we go again [or still]. This topic has been subject of a lot of litigation because of its highly subjective terms such as “[in]substantial” and “too much”. There is also a lot of misunderstanding of the issue among the population because of the commonly used phrase “separation of church and state” and is understood, mistakenly, to mean “no religion in politics.” However, churches [including the Catholic Church] are not completely prohibited from engaging in political activity. According to IRS Publication 1828, they are prohibited from endorsing or opposing candidates. The prohibition against participating or intervening in a political campaign applies only to elections for public office, and does not apply to attempts to influence legislation. Churches [not just the Catholic Church] and other §501(c)(3) exempt organizations may engage in such
    attempts to influence legislation as an insubstantial part of their activities. Repeat: Churches and other §501(c)(3) exempt organizations may engage in such attempts to influence legislation as an insubstantial part of their activities.

    Substantial Lobbying Activity

    In general, no organization, including a church, may qualify
    for IRC section 501(c)(3) status if a substantial part of its activities is attempting to influence legislation (commonly known as lobbying). An IRC section 501(c)(3) organization
    may engage in some lobbying, but too much lobbying activity risks loss of tax-exempt status.

    – IRS Publication 1828.

    Note: the term “church” in Pub. 1828 means “house of
    worship” that includes synagogues, mosques, etc.

    If the Catholic Church was devoting a “substantial” part of
    its activities to lobbying, you can bet your bottom dollar the øbama IRS would be down on it like gangbusters.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    They just want more low IQ superstitious mestizos to put their money in the basket on Sunday. There is no lower legal profession than that of the lying god hustler.

  • Glickstein44

    Censored twice on this thread…One post deleted & One post removed…Is this what they call ” Censorship Amren Style”
    For another excellent piece concerning Amnesty and those who are pushing heavily to have it passed see Henry Wolff’s article Censorship American Style.

  • HJ11

    Christianity is a universalist religion, and as such it does not support the survival of Whites. It is not a religion of life, but of death.

  • davide

    They need ‘em…dopes to fill empty pews.

  • Glickstein44

    Hmmm…my reply to you was removed as well…I made two posts to this thread earlier this morning…one shows it was deleted and the other was removed…just now changed browsers and will repost my reply to you…is this what you call Censorship Amren Style? Regarding this thread an excellent article written by Henry Wolff of AR Staff can be found by typing in Censorship American Style…read readers comments,particularly by a poster named Bobster who pasted an excellent article on those who are truly pushing for amnesty for illegals.

  • Sick of it

    Your last sentence is actually the foundation of the Protestant Reformation. Recall that it was originally a movement to clean up corruption within the Catholic Church itself, but led to schism as the corruption was too deeply rooted. Not that I’m a fan of Martin Luther, as he also later compromised in terrible ways.

  • IstvanIN

    Funny thing is a lot of Hispanics are Protestants these days.

    • OlderWoman

      Actually this may not be true. But, I know that some Protestant churches rent their facilities to latinos for their services. The churches who do that are usually those in apostasy.

      • IstvanIN

        Trust me there are a ton of store front hispanic churches as well as some formerly white Protestant churches they have taken over.

  • ThomasER916

    About two years ago I met a woman from the Ukraine who is an unapologetically proud white. She’s a regular church goer and works in a church school (academy). When she first arrived in the US she was looking for work and refused to work for the government in any capacity.

    From what I’ve seen the Slavic Baptist Churches don’t seem to be interested in Multiculturalism, race-mixing, and have little problem with ethnic networking.

  • jeffaral

    Why not? About 99% of Catholic church goers are non-Whites. Catholicism is by its very nature anti-White.

  • Erasmus

    I refuse to eat a salad or anything uncooked now when I go to a restaurant. There are too many Hispanic workers, and I don’t want any uncooked food that I eat handled by someone who doesn’t understand basic hygiene.

    Cysticercosis is a nasty disease.

  • Glickstein44

    Censorship Amren Style…signed off and approved by an Amren staff that see themselves as somehow more courageous & moral by speaking the Truth for Our People than the likes of one dearly departed James Kilpatrick.Good job.(sarcasm).

  • ravitchn

    Although “catholic” means UNIVERSAL Catholics have always, like everyone else, put their nation first. Catholic Germans killed Catholic Poles, Catholic Frenchmen killed Catholic Austrians, etc. If the Church here comes out vs, American national concerns there will be a backlash. Already the presence of too many third world priests whom Anglos cannot understand or relate to is causing defections. We need more native American priests AND MORE RESPECT FOR American VALUES. a MARRIED PRIESTHHOOD COULD HELP create a larger priesthood AND ONE LESS REPRESENTED BY GAYS and pedophiles. And more American!

    • jackryanvb

      Defections to…

      What?

      Name any American church that is pro Whit, pro Anglo or just neutral.

      I work with LDS, Mormons – the whitest church, even the top if LDS church welcomes the third world immigration invasion.

  • Erasmus

    The church may find out just how unpopular amnesty is with their rank and file.

    In 1588 when the news that the Spanish Armada had been sunk first reached the English College at Douai in France, the students went wild with cheers and shouts of joy. The English College had been founded to train English Catholics for missionary work back in their homeland, where the church was undergoing terrible persecution. To be a priest caught in England at the time of the Armada was almost always an instant death sentence. Yet, these patriotic Englishmen loathed the thought that a foreign Catholic, Phillip II of Spain, should launch The Enterprise of England to oust Elizabeth and put himself on the throne.

    The Pope in 1570 had excommunicated Elizabeth and declared it moral for her Catholic subjects no longer to give her their allegiance, even to assassinate her and to give their allegiance to Mary Stuart instead. Mary had been beheaded for high treason the year before the Armada was launched and had named Phillip in her will as her rightful successor to the throne. The Pope, the cardinals and the bishops soon learned how Catholic Englishmen would support an English protestant queen, even one persecuting them, over an invading Catholic prince.

    I imagine the average Catholic thinks “foul scorn” that the cardinals, the bishops and the Pope, (the bishop of Rome), have the temerity to suggest we should allow our country to be invaded without a fight. I am an American before I am a Catholic, and I will not let any religious authority[sic] tell me to support a policy that is harmful to my friends, my family and my country. I will not bow down to any bishop or pope or kiss his ring and pretend he is acting as the vicar of Christ when he does something so nefarious as supporting the destruction of my country.

    • OlderWoman

      Historically the Catholic church has achieved it’s means by the genociding of her opponents. Protestants, Huguenots, Waldenses and many more who wanted to worship Jesus Christ without interference and control of the Catholic beast system.

  • Jenkem Huffington

    If the pope cares so much about our Mexican invaders I for one would be happy to have him take a couple million into Vatican city.

  • Bud Smith

    The Catholic Church in the US used to be strictly a-political. Some white Catholics still believe amnesty is the Christian thing to do. Maybe the church taking a side will start a real discussion amongst the parishioners. Most white Catholics are anti-immigration I would hope. But then again, most are adults who believe everything else the church tells them about Jesus, angels and heaven.

  • Bossman

    A true Christian has no choice but to support amnesty for unauthorized immigrants. Most of these “illegal aliens” are already part of the American family by way of relatives. As for Jews, they are the original immigrant nation. The first thing that God said to Abraham is that he should leave his own country and his father’s house and wander off to a foreign nation. (GENESIS 12:1).

    • rightrightright

      Abraham was a nomad, from a nomadic culture. As such, he and his people wandered. The lawbreaking illegal aliens into the USA and the entire West are not nomads. They have home countries which they should work to bring into civilised order. The illegals are simply on the get for the fruits (tax) of other people’s civilisational endeavours.

  • Bud Smith

    Very few priests rape young boys. The problem is not allowing priests to marry, and allowing homosexuals to become priests.

    • OlderWoman

      The problem is that Catholicism is not a Christian religion. It is a pagan religion with roots in Babylon. The Catholic church worship the dead. There is no eternal life in Catholicism.

  • kjh64

    They want amnesty because most Mexicans are catholic and they think it would increase their numbers and influence. If these churches are going to get political, they need to have their tax exempt status removed, all of them.

  • stewball

    Don’t lump the Israelis with the Mexicans. Archeologists are finding proof that the Jews were in Israel thousands of years ago. They have even found proof that the leader of the Macabees was religious and how long ago was that.

  • stewball

    @david ashton. The ultra orthodox are beginning to translate the OT to suit themselves and making a mockery of the religion. They are massively disliked in Israel.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    Preaching Amnesty from the pulpit. This is why the tax exempt status of religious institutions should be removed. It’s a not so quiet secret that Christian churches have been involved in politics since their inception. Now we also have the specter of Islam. The tax free law attracts cults and scam artists to flourish. All these groups, all of them, have ever done is prey upon the psychologically/emotionally vulnerable.

  • https://politicallogical.wordpress.com/ WideBridge

    Thanks for the idea.

  • stewball

    @visitor. Semantics. The children of Israel. Hebrew is the language of the Torah and the language spoken in Israel. Whatever the OT was written thousands of years before theNT.

  • OlderWoman

    This is the Jesuit attempt at the Counter Reformation. Importing more Catholics to outnumber Protestants. These alcoholic criminal perverts will fit right in with the hierarchy of the church.

  • OlderWoman

    What they believe is pure anti-Christ doctrine. They believe Satan’s lies that Allah is God and their ‘Jesus” is fake and is the anti-Christ. Pope Francis is the False Prophet.

  • OlderWoman

    They, the Jesuits, authored Black Liberation Theology. They, the Jesuits, are fomenting a race war. Priests are the friends of feral black savages.

  • stewball

    @older woman.
    Oh for goodness sake. The OT came a couple of thousand years before Christians turned up. Are you now claiming all the kings. I suppose kings Solomon David etc were born again Christians. The whole of the OT has nothing to do with you lot.