Obama’s America Will Become Detroit

Terry Jeffrey, Townhall, December 12, 2012

President Barack Obama travelled to Michigan this week and made his case for class war in defense of the welfare state.

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“Our economic success has never come from the top down,” said Obama. “It comes from the middle out. It comes from the bottom up.”

Obama spoke these words a few miles from Detroit—the reductio ad absurdum of his argument.

If America continues down the road to Obama’s America—a road that began when President Franklin Roosevelt started building a welfare state here—our entire nation will become Detroit.

Obama’s economic and moral vision has played out in that city. What he seeks has been achieved there.

Last week, as reported by the Detroit Free Press, Michigan’s state treasurer told Detroit’s mayor and city council that the state may soon appoint an emergency financial manager for the city. Under Michigan law, the paper said, only such a manager can initiate the steps leading to a bankruptcy filing for the city.

By current calculations, Detroit faces obligations over the next six months that exceed its revenues by $47 million. The city, the Free Press reported, now pays $1.08 in benefits to municipal workers and retirees for every $1.00 it pays in salary.

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Traditional two-parent families and the productive taxpaying citizens they produce have fled. In 1950, according the U.S. Census Bureau, Detroit had 1,849,568 people and was the fifth-largest city in the nation. By 2000, its population had dropped to 951,270; by 2010, to 713,777; and by 2011, to 706,585.

What has happened to the people who remain? The Census Bureau estimates there are 563,055 people age 16 or older in the city who could potentially work and be part of the labor force. But only 54.3 percent of these—or 305,479 individuals—actually do participate in the labor force, meaning they either have a job or are looking for one. Another 257,576 of Detroit residents age 16 or older—45.7 percent of that demographic—do not participate in the labor force. {snip}

In fact, these 257,576 people in Detroit who do not have a job and are not looking for one outnumber the 224,846 residents who do have jobs. But of the 224,846 residents who do have jobs, 34,500—or 15.3 percent—have jobs with the government. Thus, this city that boasted 1,849,568 residents in 1950 has only 190,346 private-sector workers today.

There are 264,209 households in Detroit, and 91,204 of them—or 34.5 percent—get food stamps.

Very few of the people who are staying out of the labor force in Detroit are staying out because they are stay-at-home moms with working husbands. Of the 264,209 households in Detroit, only 24,275—or 9.2 percent—are married couple families with children under 18. Another 78,438 households—or 29.7 percent of the total—are “families” headed by women with no husband present. Of these, 43,742 have children under 18.

There were 12,103 babies born in Detroit in the 12 months prior to the Census Bureau survey, and 9,124 of them—or 75.4 percent—were born to unmarried women.

Of the 363,281 housing units in Detroit, 99,072 are vacant. Indeed, vacant houses have become a powerful visual symbol of what advancing socialism has done to the city. {snip}

Obama said in Michigan that if the federal government does not take more money away from people who have earned it, the public schools may not be able to buy school books. But the Department of Education says that in the Detroit public schools—which have books—only 7 percent of the eight graders are grade-level proficient in reading and only 4 percent are grade-level proficient in math.

School books are not lacking here. Self-reliance, the spirit of individualism, and the Judeo-Christian values that support marriage and family are. {snip}

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  • http://twitter.com/AgentAxis D.B. Cooper

    As we have found out, americans will vote for their ideology before their fiscal beliefs. You are not going to solve this problem as long as we have invertebrates in the Republican Party.

    • You Are Now Enriched

      This problem won’t be solved. We are in decline, and nothing will pull us out of it. When the Fedgov is a war with White America, Fedgov wins.

      • Dr. X

        Yes. The “Detroitization” of the U.S. is a deliberate policy of the U.S. Government. It is of course a nationally suicidal policy, and will result in national suicide. If we look at History, we are conditioned to view it as a series of creations and victories. However, if we look at History objectively, every creation is also a collapse and a defeat for someone. As we are constantly reminded ad nauseam, the creation of the U.S. was a defeat for the Indian; the victory of the Union was predicated on the collapse fo the Confederacy; the end of the Cold War meant the collapse of the USSR. For every loser, there is a winner, certain of and glorying in his superiority. But the United States has deliberately disavowed its superiority, and hence disavowed its reason for existence. It has chosen a policy of failure, a policy that will lead it down the road of Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, the British Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and so forth. Contemporary American policy is incompatible with national survival and greatness.

    • The__Bobster

      The Greeks did the same thing in their last election. Some people don’t believe in austerity, even when all the money is gone.

      • ATBOTL

        Those people are right. It would be best for Greece to default and leave the Euro. The reason the elites don’t that is that they don’t want the big banks to take a loss.

    • i am

      You mean they want an image instead of substance?

      I have told many people that this country is all about the false image. Human life is irrelevant as long as the false image survives. Americans, like all bullies, hate being seen for what they really are. This does not mean that 100% of the people here are bullies, but a very large percentage are, and most of the people in control of this country (the media, politicians, lawyers, etc) are bullies. Look at most of the minorities that come here. They want the image. Republicans want to sustain the image so they continue to give money to these people. Yes republicans give away money to minorities. Not as much as the Democrats, but they do. It is part of the right wing capitalist image.

  • ATBOTL

    “Judeo-Christian ” is a term that needs to be permanently banished from conservative discourse.

    • So CAL Snowman

      How did the Judeo-Christian mumbo jumbo even start? How can you have Judeo Christian values when the Judeo part of the equation absolutely loathes the Christian part of the equation?

    • You Are Now Enriched

      As a White Christian, I can confirm that when you hear “Judeo-Christian,” you should think “whimpy Christian who stands strong for Israel”.

    • Luca

      Just another example of how the Liberal, Jewish-run, media slowly interjects it’s poisonous agenda into American Society. Someone please point out one founding father that was a Jew. Which Judeo value made us great? Circumcision, not eating pork, the kosher way to slaughter animals, wearing a yarmulke? I’m still wondering.

  • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

    What exactly is a Judeo-Christian value, and how does it differ from the values held by a married couple and family that is not Christian or religious?

    Atheist, agnostic, and many other forms of not-so-Christian societies work well. Forms of socialism also work well if they are balanced with reason and intelligent policies. White people make societies work. Black people destroy them. It just doesn’t matter if the blacks are “Judeo-Christian” or not, or if they happen to be the biggest opponents of Socialism. Get it? Got it? Good.

    • StillModerated

      Atheist, agnostic, and many other forms of not-so-Christian societies work well.

      OK. So name one. Israel does not count

      • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

        In modern times Sweden, Denmark, Japan, Israel(yes, I mentioned Israel against your wishes), France, Finland, etc.

        All are vastly more secular in nature than a country like the United States. Even the average person that identifies as religious in those countries is far less of a kooky fundamentalist than their American counterpart.

        Do you have a problem with the reality that a White nation doesn’t have to adhere to a life of “monkish ignorance and superstition” in order to prosper?

        • StillModerated

          I’ll grant you Japan. Israel was majority Christian Arab until 1948. The West bank was majority Christian Arab until 1967. But the IDF bulldozed the homes of the Christians and drove them out. The European nations on your list are still majority Christian, albeit lapsed into liberal socialism. Like Israel. Even so, your list does not meet the criterion of “many.”

          • JohnEngelman

            Where do you get this “Christian Arab” stuff? Most of the Palestinians were Muslim.

          • [email protected]

            Sir, There are Christian Arabs. There was even a Christian Arab, George Habash I believe his name was who led a terrorist anti-zionist group years ago.

          • JohnEngelman

            Read my comment again. I said most of the Palestinians were Muslim.

            “Christians comprise less than 4% of Palestinians living within the borders of former Mandate Palestine today. They are approximately 4% of the West Bank population, less than 1% in Gaza, and nearly 10% of Israel’s Arab population. According to official British Mandate estimates, Mandate Palestine’s Christian population varied between 9.5% (1922)[2] and 7.9% (1946) of the total population.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians

          • StillModerated

            Or possibly anti-Christian bigotry on your part. As I’ve said before, neocons are not needed on these pages. Go ply your trade at CPAC!

          • JohnEngelman

            If you must know I am a traditional 1928 Prayer Book Episcopalian.

            Also, I am not a neocon, but a social democrat.

          • StillModerated

            No they were not. And I have many Arab Christian friends whose families descend from the earliest converts. Most of them are Antiochian Orthodox. But I know several Maronite Catholics, too.

            I’d hoped you were smarter than that.But Israel’s average IQ is only 94.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but the European nations(specifically the Scandinavian nations) are “majority Christian” in name only. The atheists, agnostics, neo-pagans, spiritualists, and even agnostic theists(the ones that mainly go to church for the tradition or social atmosphere) all combined have just about eclipsed the number of true bible-believers. These are the same Northern European countries that have some of the highest literacy rates and standards of living anywhere in the world. Liberal socialism? If that means they are generally smarter and more concerned about the welfare of their fellow citizens, then I would agree.

            Their problems, like most other White nations, stem from an influx of black and brown parasites, not from the falling number of lighter-skinned bible enthusiasts in their society.

          • Jerrybear

            And why do you think these countries, that you believe are models for the world, are apathetic to Muslim and African invasion?

            Atheist secular socialist nihilism. You don’t have much to fight for when you don’t believe in God and country. Muslims are willing to die for their pagan moon god and they’ll gladly take advantage of the welfare system and beautiful white women while they’re at it.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            Probably for the same reason why you might believe these mighty Christian nations are so susceptible to the same kind of self-destruction and apathy toward their fellow Whites. You uber religious folks want to make everything about your religion, and you cling to it like a child with a security blanket, while everything around you crumbles.

            You don’t have much to fight for when your little book can be turned into a rainbow love orgy that your own self-styled prophets and preachers use to bring black and brown hordes into the fold. I have a real family(blood and soil) and a free mind, so I don’t need a book in order to have enough intelligence, integrity and vigor to want to fight for them.

          • Jerrybear

            For the record, I’m not super religious. I don’t go to Church but I do believe in God and believe Christianity played a huge role in the success of Western civilization.

            From your comment I can see you’re an angry atheist who likes to look down on people and feel better about yourself because you believe in nothing. I feel sorry for you.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            I would technically be classified as more of a Deist, but calling myself an atheist wouldn’t be inaccurate. I’m sure you know what a Deist is, right? Many of those really smart guys who helped lay the foundation of America, yep, they were “angry atheists” like myself.

            Just so you know, and to keep you from looking a bit silly in the future, there’s no such thing as an atheist who “believes in nothing.” That’s just a way for you to rationalize a concept that your mind can’t begin to comprehend, so you project your own fears and uncertainties onto others.

          • Jerrybear

            More condescending remarks to make yourself feel better by cutting other people down. You are making enemies unnecessarily. Have a nice day.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            The second you put your religious afflictions above racial survival and solidarity, you classified yourself as an enemy in my eyes. Pray for me, Jerrybear, pray for me.

          • Jerrybear

            Good luck getting people to join your cause when you insult them for no reason. Be an atheist. I don’t care. It’s your condescending attitude and hatred of religion that will get you nowhere with getting whites to become racially aware. I am racially aware and you managed to alienate and insult me very easily. I’m done talking because this conversation is going nowhere.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            Oh, Jerrybear, if only you took the time to comprehend what it means to tell someone they don’t have a reason to fight for their family just because they don’t believe in fairy tales or your own personal convictions, maybe you would then understand why my only salvation is to be alienated from people like you.

            I’ve made it very clear that I am NOT religious. I have made it very clear that I beleive religion and racial survival are NOT synonymous. I have also made it clear that personal convictions are personal convictions, NOT to be used to divide pro-White sentiments. I would NOT allow someone(an atheist) to use their own belief system to exclude a pro-White person just because they had contrary personal convictions. Unfortunately, You People(yes, that’s the euphemistic sense of you people) are simply not content until you’ve dragged your religion into the argument in order to prop yourselves up as bastions of morality and authority. You are a Conservative, not a Racialist.

          • Jerrybear

            There you go. A comment that debates instead of smears. I am a conservative. I am also racially aware. I didn’t know that you had to be an atheist in order to be a racialist. That would be news to Mr. Taylor. The leader of this movement.

            Morality is important to create healthy societies. Take abortion for instance. All European nations are below replacement birth levels because of the cultural Marxist sentiment that women have a right to murder their own children in order to be ‘free’. That’s one huge reason why whites are going extinct and it’s a direct result of secularism.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            Would you like to point out the part where I said religious belief or non-belief was a requirement of Racialism? I’m pretty sure I said the exact opposite. I am a Racist first and foremost. Secondary issues have no bearing on my ability to prioritize and push forward. Some Conservatives are simply racist by proxy. They have things they value as much as, if not more, than race.

            White people are not going extinct. Stop parroting nonsense. They/We are simply being amalgamated into an indistinguishable, bland form of society called Multiculturalism. The problem isn’t that we are not mimicking the third-worlders and breeding like rabbits, the problem is that we have no ability to fight off the notion that it is “racist” to draw lines of distinction between nations and races of people. Religion and all of its faux morality does nothing, and has done nothing, to change this.

          • Jerrybear

            I see that the moderator deleted most of our posts. I suppose we made too long of a thread. LOL.

            In response to you last comment….

            There’s more to life than just race. It’s certainly important but it isn’t everything. The National Socialists attempted to make a nation and government dedicated to racial purism. It requires a totalitarian government which I oppose. This ideology was exclusive to Germans or Aryans. This ideology failed to appeal to the masses like communism did and does. The Nazis and Communists abandoned any sense of morality and it resulted in tens of millions of dead. Social Darwinism is too savage and evil in my opinion. This type of ideology will only a appeal to a small minority of whites.

            I understand that most churches welcome the third world which drives me crazy. It’s the biggest reason that I have distanced myself from the Catholic Church. They want more Catholics in their pews so they have abandoned the rule of law in favor of a weak version of Christianity where undeserved compassion dominates their thinking. That being said, during our founding we were a devout Christian nation that still was very racially aware. If we could return to that sort of society it could save Western civilization. National socialism and social Darwinism will not.

          • Dr. Möbias

            “The National Socialists attempted to make a nation and government dedicated to racial purism. It requires a totalitarian government which I oppose. This ideology was exclusive to Germans or Aryans.”

            Not true. Israel has been in the process of kicking out all of it’s foreign population while building walls to keep out unwanted immigrants. The prime minister even bragged about it recently.

            According to Netyanahu, “Human trafficking, human torture, and murder of children were phenomena that accompanied the parade of illegals that entered the country. From the moment we stemmed this flow, with the intent of stopping illegal workers from entering the country, we were able to stop these phenomena as well.”

            “A year ago, there were thousands arriving here, and the rate of arrival was increasing. We strengthened our borders. And last month, just 40 illegals entered the country, and none of them reached the cities.”

            Imagine an American president saying the same thing. Israel desires to keep its nation Jewish, and good for them, as long as they don’t demand multi-culturalism and massive immigration for the U.S., Europe and Canada.

          • Jerrybear

            You obviously missed a lot of the context since the mods erased most of my posts arguing with Celestial Time. I agree with you that we can do that. He was arguing against Christianity and conservatism in favor of a racial purity ideology similar to Nazism.

          • StillModerated

            There are plenty of Palestinian Arabs with Israeli citizenship; and they are out-breeding the Hebrews.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Moderator

            No, not too long, just too acrimonious.

          • Jerrybear

            Understandable. I try to be civil but sometimes people get to me with their arrogance and condescension. Celestial Time is supposed to be on our side but instead smears conservatives.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Moderator

            It’s not that. There is no winning in an argument about religion. We are too few in number to pick fights with each other over things which we really can’t prove or disprove.

          • Jerrybear

            Good point.

          • JohnEngelman

            Your comment that we should not pick fights “over things which we really can’t prove or disprove,” is the best argument I have ever heard against religious arguments.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Moderator

            And many anti-religious arguments.

          • JohnEngelman

            That is what I meant: arguments over religion. In my experience atheists are the worst religious bigots.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            Is acrimonious even a real word? I do have a four syllable limit, so just keep that in mind. Whatever the case may be, I can always use the Tommy J excuse and declare myself a devout and fanatical Jeffersonian:

            “They were written at a time of life when I was bold in the pursuit of knowledge, never fearing to follow truth and reason to whatever results they led, and bearding every authority which stood in their way.”

          • StillModerated

            Muslims are willing to die for their pagan moon god…

            Actually it’s the Moon goddess, so you can correctly say, “Allah is a (un+.”

        • Joseph

          At least several of your examples have Christian state-sponsored churches (Finland, Denmark, France) and Israel is Judaic. This only illustrates the culture who actually built the countries.

          • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

            “All are vastly more secular in nature than a country like the United States.”

            Would you like that sentence in French or Italian?

            The cultures that built those countries would also include the Pagan/Norse culture that predates Christianity. Of course, religious zealotry prohibits the acknowledgement that anything existed before Christianity.

          • Joseph

            yes, indeed, now that they are given over to perversion and third-world troglodytes.

    • Luca

      Judeo-Christian value is an invented term. Some group of people wanted to latch onto Christian values and make it their own. Their values are different than Christian and should not be included in the same sentence

    • Luca

      Thou shalt not speak boldly about the tribe, else thou shalt be moderated and censored..Judeo values do not equal Christian values and should not be used in the same sentence or formed as a conjoined word. Your language is being hijacked. The values they speak of could easily be called family values or moral values. Jews and Christians do not have a monopoly on values that support marriage and family.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

        Thank you.

        I used to use the term Judeo-Christian, and then I began a serious study of Judaism…very respectfully…and soon learned that Judeo and Christian are worlds apart. (I was like the naive liberal who believed in communism until he fully discovered it.)

        While I believe in getting along as best as one can and in the importance of finding common ground, more important is to acknowledge the truth instead of pretending that something isn’t so.

      • Joseph

        No, but many do view Christianity as a sect or derivative of Judaism, hence the conjunction and with informed reason.

    • Joseph

      Regardless of whether these other “value systems” are just as effective at blunting animal instinct, they are generally NOT the basis upon which American government and culture are based. You can argue that this was an irrelevant aspect of success, but that IS a huge part of American history and culture.The article is speaking to the devolution in Detroit, which is in America, and WAS built almost exclusively by people with those “Judeo-Christian values.

      • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

        Any first year law student will be able to tell you that American government and law was derived from Common Law, which is NOT based upon Christianity. You don’t have to take my word for it:

        Treaty of Tripoli, approved by the US Senate in 1797

        Article 11. As the Government of the United States of
        America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no
        character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the
        said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation,
        it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever
        produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

        For we know that the common law is that system of law which was introduced
        by the Saxons on their settlement in England, and altered from time to time
        by proper legislative authority from that time to the date of Magna Charta,
        which terminates the period of the common law. . . This settlement took
        place about the middle of the fifth century. But Christianity was not introduced
        till the seventh century; the conversion of the first christian king of
        the Heptarchy having taken place about the year 598, and that of the last
        about 686. Here then, was a space of two hundred years, during which the
        common law was in existence, and Christianity no part of it.

        — Thomas Jefferson, 1814

        You can believe that the trend of the religion of the time was the factor in building up the American nation, but I have no doubt in my mind that it would not have been achieved in the same manner had our Founders and early visionaries been under the spell of religious zealots and their intolerance.

        Religion doesn’t belong in the same sentence or breath as racial survival.

        • Joseph

          I believe that it was a large influential factor. While these people did not codify any religion into law, as you well know, many of the founders were in fact Christians, and a great many Freemasons – of an eclectic quasi-religious organization.

          “Our constitution is only fit for a moral and religious people. It is wholly unsuited to the governance of any other kind.” -J. Adams the Congregationalist and co-author of the constitution. So then, lets say that Jefferson and Paine were both completely anti-Christian in philosophy so minimally, it was 1/3 influenced by a reputedly devout Christian and that IS a significant influence on American government and culture.

          No, it was not all written by and for Christians but to deny the influence of Christianity in America is akin to the social anthropologists continuing to deny the obvious reality of race.

          I’m not chasing this all of the way back to L. Leakey’s “Lucy”.

        • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

          Students of Jesuit American law schools will learn that Canon Law was a crucial basis of American statutory law. It’s obvious that that’s more a matter of Colonel Sanders making you think that fried chicken is medicine rather than reality. I once thought that maybe the Founders used the Apostolic Signatura as a basis for the Supreme Court, but the AS as a formal institution only started in 1909, so fail that.

          • ATBTOL

            Laughable nonsense from the Jesuits.

            There has been a massive effort in academia to suppress the understanding that our legal and political systems derive from Germanic culture.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            The concept of jury nullification (the good kind, to neutralize the enforcement of unjust laws) came purely from Germanic social tradition. There is no historical precedent in England.

      • Luca

        Family values go back to the Neanderthal’s and marriage goes back thousands of years before the common era. Christian values reflect many good things and so do Jewish values. Buddhists, Atheists, Deists, Agnostics and Hindus also have good values. Why do they join these two words and why put Judeo- first? I cannot recall one Jew on the Mayflower or one signing the Declaration of independence. I can think of no Jewish officer serving with George Washington or at the Battle of Lexington. Therefore, aside from the slave trade and being common citizen-merchants and bankers please explain how Judeo values should be included in your claim of building America. Jews, Christians and Muslims all have a connection to the old testament so why not say Judeo-Christian-Islamic values? Better yet, why not drop the obvious pandering to religious groups and let’s just say something like “moral” or “altruistic” values. Judeo-Christian is a contrived word invented by the PC-MSM and stealthily slipped into American pop culture for unthinking parrots to repeat over and over again. As has happened here.

    • [Guest]

      >>>What exactly is a Judeo-Christian value, and how does it differ from the values held by a married couple and family that is not Christian or religious?

      The question is flawed. What do you mean by “married couple” and by “family”? It is not adherents of Judeo-Christian values who’ve redefined even these most familiar terms until they could include, for example, a black-African male and his receptive white-male stay-at-home husband along with anyone they might care to adopt, legally or otherwise.

      And what do you mean by “Christian” and “religious”? It is not adherents to Judeo-Christian values who’ve determined that atheist Lutheran pastor Thorkild Grosboell and Muslim Episcopal priest Ann Holmes Redding qualify as Christians or that Secular Humanism is not religious in nature.

      If you acknowledge that those observations are true, you’ve begun to answer your own question.

  • MekongDelta69

    I didn’t see the words “black” or “African-American” or anything else like that.

    • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

      That’s because everyone loves a good black Christian or a rabid black Capitalist. Nothing says “I’m not a racist” like having a few of those trophies to point to when you are being assaulted by the anti-White hordes.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

        Hence the popularity of Herman Cain. If he had been white, everyone would recognize that he was as dumb as a bag of hammers and would have openly said it.

        • AngryWhiteMan

          The GOP field wasn’t exactly full of geniuses this year. Rick Perry makes Cain look brilliant

        • ATBOTL

          Cain was a mathematician, so I’m pretty sure he isn’t dumber than a bag of hammers.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

            Take it with a grain of salt. There are also black “doctors” and “engineers.”

  • http://twitter.com/LavMenace Crystal Lee Evans

    Replace Judeo Christian with Middle Class Work Ethic. This covers everybody who subscribes to Judeo Christian ethics but are not Christians.

  • dhs

    America cannot become a Detroit. Because while parasites can take over the host organism, the host does not become a parasite. It takes a certain amount of healthy tissue to support each parasite. When the number of parasites reaches the limit, the host dies, and the parasites die with the host.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

      When the number of parasites reaches the limit, the host dies, and the parasites die with the host.

      Wake up, Canada. You’re next.

      • Joseph

        Watch Canada because they are a clearinghouse for 3rd-worlders. I think most Americans think all Canadians are English or French. I have known some who emigrated to Canada because of the slack restrictions, got citizenship there, *then* came to U.S. We will be conquered from north and south.

        Maybe the immigration requirements to Canada tightened up in the last 10 years; I don’t know.

    • Joseph

      South Africa.

  • guest

    With Obama’s re-election, we’ve seen no “hope” for this country, but we’re seeing plenty of “change”. And none of it is good. I dread to think how this country will be like by 2016.

    • Strider73

      The USA as a nation-state will not exist by 2016. It will have joined the USSR on history’s ash heap, and justifiably so. At least a dozen confederations, alliances and independent states will inhabit the former USA. If conservatives get a spine transplant, they will drive the black and brown moochers out of the South, Midwest, interior West and Alaska.

      Back in the summer of 2008 I predicted that whoever won the election would go down in history as the last US president. That prediction still stands.

      “What if the democracy we thought we were serving no longer exists, and the Republic has become the very evil we’ve been fighting to destroy?” — Senator Padmé Amidala, Revenge of the Sith

  • Dave4088

    Oh sure; if only Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bennett or some other conservative blowhard were mayor of Detroit it would be Beverly Hills. Not only that, but blacks would come to embrace trickle down economics and learn to love white people if only we posted the ten commandments in the classrooms. Does Republican lunacy ever end?

    Detroit is a hell hole because its population is almost exclusively black. End of discussion.

    • StillModerated

      This comment is not racist!

      • Bobbala

        It is so true! What do you mean it’s not racist?

    • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

      Sir, that is a trick question. A Republican is lunacy personified. Take away the lunacy and you cease to have a Republican…..okay, that works with the Democrats as well.

    • John Bonham

      (Detroit is a hell hole because its population is almost exclusively black. End of discussion. )

      Yes Moron, and the whole city is run by black Democrats too .. So yes, if you pull out those black dems and put in real white “CONSERVATIVE” republicans, in a few years the city would turn right around… Sounds to me like you’re one of many trolls on AmRen .. Try the Huffpo they like your way of thinking …

      • i am

        I think Dave was being sarcastic

      • Dave4088

        I see I upset a dittohead. In case you hadn’t noticed blacks don’t/won’t vote for white Republicans when the opposition candidate is black and the last two presidential elections proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt. So please, John Dittohead, regale us with your plan that will transform black people who hate whites and demand free stuff into self reliant kosher conservatives who abide the law and vote GOP. Tax cuts on watermelon and malt liquor might be a good start.

        But even if by some miracle it were possible to elect a Republican, black Detroit would be just as violent with a race neutral, GDP worshipping white Republican mayor as it would be with a racist black Democrat.

  • David Brims

    If socialism has destroyed Detroit, then how come Saint Petersburg and Prague are not destroyed ? after all they endured communism.

    Nah, I think we ALL know the reason why.

    • JohnEngelman

      What about San Francisco? How come it’s doing so well?

      • APaige

        And Vermont-ohhh sorry not enough Asians there for you.

        • AngryWhiteMan

          I managed to date two Asian girls within the span of two months in VT when I lived there. No I don’t have yellow fever either

      • Dave4088

        Uh, because San Francisco has very few black people. Something like 6%, whereas whites and Asians make up 75% of the city’s population.

        • JohnEngelman

          That is the point a number of posters here have been making. What has happened to Detroit is not the fault of Democrats or liberals per se. It is what happens to a city where the vast majority of the population is black.

          I suggest it is also the fault of the management of the big three automakers. They have moved production to states and countries with low wages and lax environmental standards. When there were decent jobs in Detroit, decent people lived there.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            Alternatively, the Big Three moved plants out of Detroit because black crime and indolence drove it and every other decent pursuit out of the city. The former Chevy Corvette plant in north St. Louis City didn’t close up because it moved to Mexico or China, but it moved to Bowling Green, Kentucky. North St. Louis simply got too damned vibrant.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

            “Vibrant.” Translation: When visiting, always carry your glock.

            I stay away from places described as “diverse” and “vibrant.”

          • John Bonham

            I suggest it is also the fault of the management of the big three
            automakers. They have moved production to states and countries with low
            wages and lax environmental standards.

            Yeah and who made that happen ? The Democrats that are in charge of the city ..Making it impossible to own or run a business let alone try to start one, with all the rules and regulations put upon them … Some people just don’t get it ..

          • JohnEngelman
          • Joseph

            …and when they made a decent product, people bought it.

            When the Japanese started laying a whipping on American car/cycle-makers in the 70’s despite large tariffs, that portended what they now enjoy in Detroit. The unions also bear some responsibility for this.

          • i am

            I remember the cars from the 70’s My father bought a new GM car and it rusted through within 2 years, and we live in California. My father bought a new 57 Chevy in 1957 and drove it to California from Chcago. In 1977 the 57 Chevy was in better condition than the car he bought in 1973. He was angry at the American automakers for making such junk and swore he would never buy another American made vehicle. He said that the automakers were so cocky that they thought Americans would buy American junk over foreign well made vehicles. He said that the Automakers thought people would buy a new car every 3 years so it didn’t matter to them if the car lasted longer than that. The fuel shortage also hurt American car makers.

          • ATBOTL

            Insider accounts suggest quality was cut deliberately by management to save on costs. The cars were also made to fall apart so they would need to be repaired/replaced more. There has never been any credible evidence(or any evidence presented at all) that “lazy workers” were the source of quality problems.

            That’s another one of these right wing myths that need to be buried for good.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            I live in a city (St. Louis) that once had one each of the Big Three assembly lines, and I know quite a few people who worked both blue and white collar jobs for all three, and more who worked in the back end of parts manufacture, which St. Louis also used to have a lot of. Yes, there were a lot of “lazy workers” that helped cause a quality decline.

            It just so happens those “lazy” workers had something really auspicious in common.

            You get one guess.

          • FredMertz

            They were Methodists?

          • mike

            John. You need to know a little more about the Detroit area. If your observation about how the auto industry played a large role in the demise of Detroit was valid then the suburbs of Detroit would be similarly impacted, but that is not the case. By and large the suburbs are doing well.

          • ATBOTL

            Actually, there are still many major auto facilities in the Detroit area. That the auto industry disappeared completely is another right wing myth.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            There are still many auto assembly lines throughout the whole country. However, the real action in the automobile industry disappearing in the United States is in the back end, the supply chain of parts. An “American” car is basically only American in that its final state of manufacture is on an American assembly line by UAW members that mostly look like you and I, but almost all the parts are made in Mexico, China or elsewhere.

          • FredMertz

            They moved away froDetroit so they could A)Get away from the cancerous UAW and B) So they could get away from the cancerous black male. The work produced by the black male is usually,unless it is incredibly simple and easy to do,worthless. The black unionleaders were uber-thug rent-seeking welfare pigs.

        • fsagas

          Wouldn’t the 6% make is bad for everyone (that is still quite a bit of people)? Sure there is the argument that more then 6% means it would get worse on a gradual scale. But San Francisco isn’t 100% “pure.” And under that line of thought it should be absolutely horrible due to it not be a pure 100%.

  • Ed_NY

    All of the taxpayers (Whites) have left Detroit, all that is left are tax consumers (mostly blacks). The domino theory should be applied here. The same thing that has happened to Detroit will happen everywhere that tax consumers out number taxpayers.

  • StillModerated

    President Barack Obama traveled to Michigan …

    Am I the only one surprised that he avoided Detroilet? Or did the Secret Service goons simply keep his imperial majesty out of danger by avoiding vast numbers of vicious animals?

    • AngryWhiteMan

      I don’t think there’s many people in Detroit who would lay a finger on His Hopefulness

    • Joseph

      I’m wondering why His Hopefulness didn’t take a few days there to “organize the community” while he was at it.

  • Ted

    Michigan may have saved their state on 12/12 though.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      Unless the RTW law somehow chases blacks and non-white Muslims and who knows what else Detroit and other big cities in Michigan have in the way of problematic non-whites out, then it won’t really save it.

  • Jefferson

    The African American community is overwhelming made up of Christians, thug Christians that is.

    I have seen many saggin pants Black yoofs wearing a Jesus cross, oh the major irony in that. They actually believe Jesus would approve of their gangsta culture.

    • IstvanIN

      Giant gold crosses studded with zirconia. I have seen them. Beyond bling.

      • Biff_Maliboo

        That’s so Black Jeebus can see it!

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Blacks worship 0bama, who they think is Santa Claus.

      Obama is the new Jim Jones.

      Bon

      • Joseph

        If only.

    • Joseph

      The oversize gold crucifix is the symbol of Jesus (who is proven to be black) and was bucking “the man”…and any excuse for bling.

  • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

    I’m not joking here — there are Republicans/conservatives and even supposed pro-White people that would take this kind of “Judeo-Christian values” over a non-religious Racist like myself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi_KaZ53eDg

    If your religion inhibits your intuition to survive as a distinct race and culture, and prohibits you from working with intelligent people, then your religion is a serious problem that best stay out of my way.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

      Well said.

      When your religion starts to inhibit you from acting rationally and intelligently, it has become your cult.

      • [Guest]

        As is evident in this discussion, irreligion can have the same effect.

    • Joseph

      I think that there are others like me, who don’t care what your “religious” affiliations are, if any, but who reject the new theory that Christianity is not a major element of American culture. Shinto Buddhism is an important aspect of Japanese heritage, Confucianism in China, Judaism in Israel, Hindu in India, Hoodoo in Haiti, etc. and no one denies this though there be atheists and variety in all of them, America included. Christianity is/was however, the major philosophical basis for America and to ignore this, whether you agree with its tenets or not, is simply wishful historical revision. This IS maintaining our survival as a race and culture.

      Jesus never said “Go and make dependents of all nations, bring them home with you, compel others by force to pay for their upkeep and criminal activities and lo, I am with you always.” That is the interpretation of modern, organized religious “corporations” who profit thereby.

      • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

        It has nothing to do with whether or not Christianity was the dominant religion or belief system when America was born, or while it has developed/devolved. The divide comes when those of the religious persuasion tend to become enamored and entrenched in their beliefs that anything not reeking of Christianity is somehow incapable of producing a civilized society. Your religion has nothing to do with maintaining our survival as a race. Millions and millions of black and brown Christians would probably agree.

      • bluffcreek1967

        I agree with much of what you have written Joseph. I agree that Christianity has deeply influenced the founding of America – although for both historical and theological reasons, I don’t view America as a distinctly Christian nation as commonly understood. I guess I would refer to it as a Christian Influenced Nation. I would refer you to a book entitled, The Search For Christian America, by three evangelical history professors (I can’t think of their names now).

        With that said, there has been throughout history numerous countries or nations that have been prosperous and civilized without necessarily having a deep Christian basis or roots. Think of Japan and China today. All of this comes under the banner of God’s sovereignty over all the nations to prosper and increase whomever he wishes. National prosperity is not dependent per se upon Christian beliefs, although I’m persuaded it helps.

  • tickyul

    Demorats and their Urban American Stormtroopers destroyed Detroitbabwe.

  • Rex Feral

    As a past resident of Down Town Eastside of Vancouver I have seen what happens with a welfare state. It has the highest percentage of people on welfare in the country and a big majority are native people. These people are capable of working but their drug and alcohol abuse robs them of that. Their color isn’t the big thing. It’s the low lifes that drain all of our resources. They claim that they are being poor bashed which I never could understand

    • IstvanIN

      Trust us, it is the color.

  • JohnEngelman

    If America continues down the road to Obama’s America — a road that began when President Franklin Roosevelt started building a welfare state here — our entire nation will become Detroit.

    – Terry Jeffrey

    For nearly two generations the economic policies of President Franklin Roosevelt turned an industrial proletariat into a lower middle class with union jobs that provided good wages, benefits, and job security.

    The basic reforms of the New Deal have remained so popular that Republican politicians do not dare attack them directly. Instead they promote tax cuts with the dishonest claim that these tax cuts pay for themselves. Then they use the deficits the tax cuts cause to try to stab the New Deal in the back.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      The FDR legacy (hangover?) was sustainable only while the economies of Japan and Western Europe were recovering from the shattering damage they sustained during World War Two.

      The Volkswagen Beetle and Toyota Corolla showed our defeated former enemies could produce automobiles people here would buy, in spite of (or because of) US labor union members sabotaging cars on production lines in Detroit – yes, they were really doing that, and shame on them – and the Arabs forming OPEC and raising oil prices.

      Where have you been living for the last 60 years, John?

      • JohnEngelman

        There was nearly as much economic growth during FDR’s first term as during the terms of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge.

        http://www.singularity.com/charts/page99.html

        In Germany 26 percent of the work force is unionized. In Japan it is 22 percent. In the United States it is 13 percent. The problems with the U.S. auto industry, and with U.S. industry in general should be blamed on bad management and engineering, rather than on labor unions.

        http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lab_tra_uni_mem-labor-trade-union-membership

        • Luca

          Unions demand more and more, much like politicians and junkies, yet offer noting in return. When was the last time we heard of unions promising more production for more pay and benefits? Do you think Unions are benevolent organizations? They take enormous sums of money from workers and spend it on lobbying and union employees’ pay, benefits and junkets You know, like important meetings on cruise ships or fact-finding trips to the Bahamas. They served a purpose years ago but excess power has corrupted them, drove up labor costs and degraded the quality of the American worker. We now have laws to cover most of what unions claim to do for the worker. I’ve seen drug addicts and alcoholics re-hired thanks to union finagling time and again. It becomes virtually impossible to fire horrible, lazy, employees who destroy the morale, teamwork and work ethic of your workforce. Where else do you have organizations that require you to pay them as a condition of employment? Not to mention that strikes are actually nothing more than a breach of contract. Any employee who is absent from work without cause or permission should be terminated. Period.

          And any company that is badly managed or engineered will fail in the marketplace and dissolve. Unless of course they are bailed out by the taxpayer. The bad management in the auto industry took place when they allowed unions to run the show. Autos being manufactured in “right-to-work” states seem to be doing quite well.

          • JohnEngelman

            The purpose of labor unions is to win for members better wages, benefits, working conditions, and job security than they would get without them. They achieve this goal.

            Those who claim that labor unions were necessary in the past, but no longer are, are the kind of people who would have opposed them in the past.

            With corporations making record profits, while real after tax income for blue collar workers has declined since 1980 labor unions are as necessary now as they ever have been.

          • Luca

            Corporations are in business to make profits, when they achieve that goal they are demonized. Unions are in the business of extortion and blackmail. They force employees to join and they force employers to pay more, both activities benefiting the union. The more money the workers make, the more money the unions make, which in turn is used to fund political causes.

          • JohnEngelman

            By raising wages the union movement helped the United States recover from the Great Recession. As union members bought more businessmen hired more people to produce and sell more.

          • Luca

            Yes, but they do it through extortion and blackmail, so I guess in your eyes that justifies it.

    • Luca

      Roosevelt’s Deals started in 1933 hardly took us out of the depression. We hit bottom around ’32 and unemployment remained high throughout the 30’s. I believe incredible wartime production had more to do with elevating the middle class by reducing unemployment dramatically beginning around 1939 when America geared up for war and was providing support to Britain’s war effort. New Deal reforms may have been popular, but that does not make them responsible, efficient or sound.

      • JohnEngelman

        From 1920, when Warren G. Harding was elected president, to 1928 when Herbert Hoover was elected the unemployment rate declined 1.0 percent. From 1932 when Franklin Roosevelt was elected to 1940 when he was reelected the second time the unemployment rate declined by 6.0 percent.

        http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html

        Harding was inaugurated in 1921, Calvin Coolidge’s last full year in office was 1928. During those eight years when the GOP dominated the United States the per capita gross domestic product (GDP) increased $1,681 in terms of 1996 dollars. This represented an increase of 29.19 percent.

        Roosevelt was inaugurated in 1933. The last full year of his second term was 1940. During those eight years, when the Democratic Party dominated the United States, the per capita GDP increased $2,619 in terms of 1996 dollars. This represented an increase of 54.52 percent.

        http://www.singularity.com/charts/page99.html

        I would like to remind you that military spending is government spending. The Great Depression was ended by high government spending and high government employment paid for by high taxes on the rich. When the top tax rate was 94 percent the unemployment rate was 1.2 percent.

        http://www.data360.org/dataset.aspx?Data_Set_Id=857&transpose=row

        Throughout the Roosevelt administration the top tax rate increased, the economy grew faster than it had done during the 1920s, and the unemployment rate declined. This disproves the Republican cliche that, “You can’t tax your way to prosperity.”

        • Luca

          From 1920 to 1928 unemployment dropped a point, it went from 5.2 to 4.2 percent. When FDR was elected it was at 23.6% Analogy: the 390-lb man who loses 50-lbs in 8 yrs. vs. the 145-lb man who only loses 5-lbs in 8 yrs. Seems to me FDR had a lot more room for improvement.

          By 1940 you are already into the pre-war production mode that I mentioned with aid being sent to Britain and the US planning for entrance into the war.

          Gov’t spends money on war, correct. But aside from taxes it was war bonds that helped finance the war to the tune of over $3.2 trillion in today’s money. While the top rate graduated to 94% there were a myriad of deductions and loopholes. Do you really believe anyone paid 94% of their income in taxes? Very few people made that kind of money in the 40’s to reach that bracket and those that did had tax attorneys on call.

          Again, the unemployment rate was low because most everyone was either in the military, or involved in war production therefore fully employed. The credit goes to the war and not to liberal ideals of tax and spend. The population was 100% behind the war effort and had just left behind the Great Depression, so while in the midst of great patriotism and prosperity the radical measures undertaken during a World War should not be mistaken for business as usual.

          • JohnEngelman

            There was nearly as much economic growth during FDR’s first term as during the terms of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coleridge.

            The Great Depression was ended by high government spending and high government employment paid for by high taxes on the rich. It did not have to be military spending. Spending on infrastructure and the public sector of the economy would have been more beneficial. People can’t eat bullets or live in tanks. This is how President Eisenhower described the waste of military spending:

            Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

            This world in arms in not spending money alone.

            It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

            The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

            It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

            It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.

            It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

            We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.

            We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.
            http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9743.htm

  • Seek

    Terry Jeffrey is typical deracinated Town Hall-style race un-realist, ever eager to look for “liberals” (read: “white liberals”) as the fount of all evil and ruin. He thinks progressivism and secularism are to blame for Detroit’s condition. I’ve got some news: Seattle and Portland probably have more of those two things than any city in America yet they still manage to be two of the world’s most livable cities. Fortunately, they are short on the one thing that guarantees urban destruction: blacks.

    When you’re dealing with the mainstream conservative media, remember, you’re not allowed to say anything bad about blacks generally. Indeed, you’re supposed to swoon with pleasure at the thought of Allen West or Herman Cain becoming U.S. president. No thanks.

    • JohnEngelman

      Conservatives often get as angry as liberals when I defend Charles Murray’s “The Bell Curve.”

      They want to agree with Jack Kemp, who said, “Anyone can become rich in the United States.” They want to believe that they can become rich. They also want to feel morally superior to the poor.

      Now, sure a lot of poor people have self destructive behavior. I have known welfare recipients. I did not like them. Nevertheless, some of the hardest working and most morally responsible people I have known have been desperately poor.

      • Joseph

        That is because poverty does not cause bad behavior, nor does wealth, but certain bad behaviors may lead to either poverty or wealth. The proximate cause of immoral or criminal behavior is in the mind of the actor, the the arbiter of the actions available.

    • Jay Sixpack

      Mr. Jeffry and the rest of Conservative Inc.’s fellow travelers are just as destructive to western civilization as any bunch of ‘liberals’, Bolsheviks or other assorted anti-White lunatics.

      Cons Inc have successfully distracted and/or derailed any meaningful response to the ‘liberals’. They are both wings of the same carrion eating bird.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    In Detroit:

    *50% of all adults are functionally illiterate

    *the high school graduation rate is 25%.

    *10 years ago there were 5,000 police officers. Today there are less than 3,000

    *the rate of self-defense killings is 2200 percent above the national average.

    *gangs of “yuts” with AK-47s are terrorizing gas stations all over.

    *a known dumping ground for the dead.

    *the head of the bus drivers union says that his drivers are “literally scared for their lives.”

    The majority of Americans want America to become Detroit; they voted in the destroyers of our civilization, too stupid to know what they were voting for, unable to recognize that 0bama is NOT a messiah.

    There have been other “messiahs” just like 0bama whose followers cheered at anything:

    Mao, Castro, Stalin, Jim Jones, Pol Pot come to mind.

    Bon

  • IstvanIN

    Our success does come from the top down, it comes from the minds of great men like Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell and Henry Ford. It never comes from the bottom of the intellectual barrel. We have tons of millionaire black football and basketball players who contribute nothing to society. We have even more welfare mothers who contribute nothing. We have tens of thousands of “middle income” black government employees who contribute nothing. Mr. Obama, success comes from the top, the top of the IQ list.

  • SintiriNikos

    The term Judeo-Christian always entertains me. What a complete fabrication this is. I bet if you scour books in the USA from 40 or so years ago and before, you will not find that abominable fraud of a word anywhere. Neocon-in-training Paul Ryan threw that term around after his election defeat. He is well-trained by his masters.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kenyon.hull Kenyon Hull

    Lib Terry writes a sorry story does he not? All of that wasted ink and he does not mention the elephant in the room! In 1950, Detroit was a beautiful shining city on a hill with 1,850,000 white citizens, full of progress and proud of being a great city. In 2010, with 700,000 black citizens and bankrupt, Detroit is the American poster child for how blacks manage or mismanage a city. Terry forgot to mention this part of the story of Detroit. Blacks cannot generate enough money to fund Detroit. This same scenario is playing out in Birmingham, Camden, Memphis, Oakland, Gary, and many other cities that are on the cusp of bankruptcy. Liberal policies seem to work in Seattle and Portland (white cities) so liberal policy does not seem to be the problem in black run cities. What could it be?

  • bluffcreek1967

    I think liberal social ideology coupled with liberal financial policies will cause all sorts of problems for any city. Liberals favor high taxes and they tend to support lots of government control and excessive bureaucracy. This tends to generally hamper prosperity, although many people can still be quite successful in spite of it. Thus, a city or country whose dominant population is White can still be prosperous. However, when those same liberal social and economic policies are mixed with a large or dominant population of Blacks, it will be prove to be disastrous. Liberalism and Blacks are a deadly combination, and cities such as Detroit demonstrates it!

    • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

      I’m not sure if it’s just some kind of ingrained mantra that is never fully thought out, but how is it that Conservatism and Blacks are really that much less of a deadly combination? So you’re telling me that if all of a sudden black people became a bunch of conservative-voting Herman Cains, that the White population would somehow be safer and thrive? Black people and civilization are a deadly combination, and that’s all there is to that.

      • bluffcreek1967

        If a large amount of Blacks held to political and social conservatism, the problems in their own communities would be greatly lessened. Blacks would also be not be as severe a problem for the White man. Granted, the situation wouldn’t be perfect, and I’m under no delusion that conservatism can solve all our problems. But it would definitely be better than things stand now because conservatism emphasizes individual responsibility, family values, hard work, personal ethics and less government involvement in our lives.

        Yes, I know it’s a pipe dream concerning large numbers of Blacks embracing conservatism, but if they did, things would improve for both Blacks ( less crime, welfare, etc.) and Whites (us being less the victims of Black crime).

        • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

          I work hard, have personal ethics, don’t want the government involved in my personal life, have my own family values, and take full responsibility for my actions and deeds. Are you telling me I’m a conservative?

          I truly hope you get your black conservatives by the millions. I just won’t be anywhere in your vicinity when that happens.

      • Joseph

        So it would appear. Although, the fluke- Clarence Thomas has been pretty straight-up (not that there are no whites who couldn’t do the same).

  • Larry Klein

    Good grief what stupidity. I grew up in the Detroit suburbs, Karl Marx did not sink Detroit. Typical establishment cowardice, trying to rally the troops with boring platitudes about free markets and “self reliance.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/orville.seybert Orville Seybert

    Detroit’s problems are because of blacks but 99 % of the posters here seem to forget that liberal democratic polices are what enabled the blacks to take over.

  • LHathaway

    Obama has a point. Getting those on government assistance, instead, working, could help turn things around. For those unable to work, it actually helps the USA that these poor people live in large cities. It’s cheaper on the taxpayer, I believe, for them to live crammed into high density areas.

  • scutum

    Dave4088: I beleive that the elites are aware of the limitations of blacks and the fact that they cannot sustain a civilization or culture. (other than rap & drugs) Blacks are being used by the marxists who now control our political institutions to destroy the US, and by proxy the capitalist system and free enterprise. The leftists beleive that once they tear everything down they can then reconstruct the nation according to their utopian vision. This has never worked, no revolution has ever proceeded or concluded in the way the instigators of that revolution planned or envisioned. The French revolution ended with the death of it’s instigators and the rise of Napolean Bonaparte. The Russian revolution ended the same way, with the rise of Stalin and the death of Trotsky and most of his fellow revolutionaries. I won’t go on and repeat the statistics about China, Cambodia and a host of other nations that have gone down the same path. I will conclude by pointing out that the end result of all these leftist revolutions has historically been the same.

  • JohnEngelman

    Judeo-Christian values can be perceived in various ways. The Old Testament prophets blamed the decline and fall of David’s Empire in part to the oppression of the poor by the rich.

    Jesus made statements like Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    St. Paul preferred marriage to fornication, but he thought celibacy was the ideal state.

    St. James wrote 5:1,4.6 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

    The strongest appeal of Christianity has always been to poor people and women. Upper class men were the last to convert during the Roman Empire. They were the first to become skeptics during the eighteenth century Enlightenment.

    • David Ashton

      This last point was made by Marxists and by Nietzsche, both atheists but from different points of view.

      • JohnEngelman

        When the Soviet Union still existed I bought a book published by Progress Publishers, and printed in Moscow. The title was, “Marx and Engels on Christianity.” In one essay Fredrick Engels likened the early Christian religion to the nineteenth century Communist movement.

        In “Hitler’s Table Talk,” Adolf Hitler is recorded as saying, “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew.”

  • dhs

    A Defense of the term Judeo-Christian

    I don’t disagree with the objections to this term, but there is another issue that should be considered: The audience for which this article is intended. I accessed the Townhall site, and it is geared to economic and social conservatives. These folks become nervous and alienated at realistic discussions about race (at least publicly). By describing the social and economic devastation in Detroit as a consequence of liberal government policies, the nasty reality of Detroit will be much more readily accepted by the Townhall audience. The term “Judeo-Christian”* acts to further lubricate the minds of this audience to the harsh penetration of this reality.

    The term “Judeo-Christian” may also be being used to distinguish the Christianity of Townhallers from the Gimedat-Christianity of Detroiters.

  • Luis

    For years, we were told one of the reasons Detroit came to be the way it is now, is because of the labor unions wielding all that power. Now that the unions have had some of their power reduced, with the right-to-work legislation; let’s see if Detroit will pick itself up by the bootstraps and prosper. They won’t be able to use that “unions strangled Detroit”, canard anymore. They’ll come up with yet another excuse.
    I have a feeling that Bangladesh and Haiti will become wealthy, propsperous nations, long before Detroit gets back to where it was, circa 1950.

    • ATBOTL

      The anti-union fools never mention that they have unions in Yokohama and Stuttgart too.

      One of our jobs as white nationalists is to systematically demolish false, aracial explanations for racial phenomena.

  • jason

    What concerns me more than anything else is where will our children and grandchildren live because the change is coming fast and there will be nowhere left to go .
    Liberalism is spreading through world politics like a plague infecting and condemning its conservative host until it is too weak to fight .

  • Michael_C_Scott

    “Our economic success has never come from the top down.”

    Does this mean that workaholic visionaries like Henry Ford, Thomas Edison and Howard Hughes were not involved in the success of the the companies they founded and operated?

  • zanegray
  • SFLBIB

    “Our economic success has never come from the top down,” said Obama. “It
    comes from the middle out. It comes from the bottom up.”

    Proving once again that obama almost never knows what he is talking about.