Two Schoolgirls Abused by 60 Men in Aylesbury Child Sex Ring, Court Hears

Telegraph, May 18, 2015

Members of a “horrifying” child sex ring abused two schoolgirls, taking advantage of their vulnerability on a “massive scale”, a court has heard.

One girl, who was aged 12 or 13 at the time, alleges that throughout the period she was abused, she was passed between 60 men who had sex with her Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.

Eleven men are on trial accused of committing sexual offences against the youngsters, who had allegedly been conditioned into believing that what they were being subjected to was “normal”.

Jurors at the Old Bailey have heard how both girls came from troubled backgrounds and wanted to feel grown up when they were taken in by the men. The defendants deny a total of 49 offences said to have been committed between 2006 and 2012.

They included the multiple rape of a child under 13, child prostitution and administering a substance to “stupefy” a girl in order to engage in sexual activity.

In all, 45 charges relate to one child who cannot be identified for legal reasons and is known as “A”, and four against a second girl, referred to as “B”.

Opening the case, prosecutor Oliver Saxby QC, said: “This case concerns child sexual exploitation on a massive scale. It features two young girls who were employed and sexually abused from the age of 12 or 13.”

He continued: “Both girls were from unstable backgrounds, making perfect targets. Their lives were ‘off the rails’. They were looking for excitement, for attention. For somewhere to hang out, away from school and home.

“They were wanting to feel grown up. And looked after. And they were easy prey for a group of men wanting casual sexual gratification that was easy, regular and readily available.”

The court heard that one of the girls, known only as A, was abused to a greater degree than the other, known only as B. Jurors were told that both girls were befriended and showered with inexpensive gifts such as alcohol, DVDs, food, and occasionally drugs.

Mr Saxby said: “They were being conditioned, exploited. Their trust was being established. And then they were sexually abused.”

He added that at the time the girls’ ideas of what was right had been “completely distorted”, and that they thought what was happening was “normal” and “natural”.

“Notwithstanding that they were children, they spoke in terms of these men being their boyfriends. And they were passed from man to man–sometimes on a daily basis. The scale of it is, you may agree, horrifying. A estimated that she had sex with about 60 men, almost all Asian.”

The 11 men on trial are accused of being among the men who abused the schoolgirls. Each allegedly acted with “total disregard of the law and the legal prohibition on the sexual abuse of children”.

They lived in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, where the abuse occurred, and some were friends, the jury heard.

The court was also told that some of the men were married and had children, with some working in the market and a few working as taxi drivers. Each of the men sexually allegedly abused A, while two are said to have molested B.

In one statement, A told police: “You get passed round . . . It wasn’t particularly me looking for them. It was them looking for me. It’s just that they pass your number around . . . Or you’re with one of them and they invited three or four of their friends round and then you have to sleep with them.

“Because you’re in their place and they’re making your life a bit more exciting, so you do what they want.”

She added that she thought the men found her attractive, and was happy to be wanted, knowing that “Asian men” wanted to sleep with her.

Vikram Singh, 45, of Aylesbury, is charged with four counts of rape, four counts of sexual activity with a child, and one of administering a substance with intent.

Harmohan Nangpal, 41, Hayes, is accused of one count of rape, and one count of sexual activity with a child.

Asif Hussain, 33, of Milton Keynes, face three counts of rape, three counts of sexual activity with a child and one count of arranging child prostitution.

Arshad Jani, 33, of Aylesbury, denies one count of rape, and a further count of sexual activity with a child.

Mohammed Imran, 38, of Bradford, is accused of three counts of rape, three counts of sexual activity with a child, two counts of conspiracy to commit sexual activity with a child, two counts of conspiracy to rape and one count of child prostitution.

Akbari Khan, 36, of Aylesbury, denies two counts of rape, one count of of sexual activity with a child, and one each of administering a substance with intent, conspiracy to rape, and conspiracy to commit sexual activity with a child.

Taimoor Khan, 29, of Aylesbury, is charged with one count of rape, one count of sexual activity with a child, one count of conspiracy to rape, and one count of conspiracy to commit sexual activity with a child.

Jerome Joe, 35, of Buckingham, is charged with one count of rape and a single count of sexual activity with a child.

Sajad Ali, 34, of Chesham, is charged with rape, sexual activity with a child and administering a substance.

Sohail Qamar, 41, of Aylesbury, is accused of sexual activity with a child, two counts of rape, and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

Faisal Iqbal, 32, of Aylesbury, is on trial accused of conspiracy to rape and conspiracy to commit sexual activity with a child.

The men filled the dock in court, some of them using the services of various interpreters speaking Hindi, Urdu, Pashto and Punjabi.

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  • MekongDelta69

    Men“? No – they’re muslim pigs.

    Brits“? No again – they’re still muslim pigs.

  • Anon

    The most important thing to understand is that this behavior is, in fact, perfectly normal.

    Any society that is conquered, the women abandon perpetuating the failed race and seek to survive on the fringes of the conquering society exchanging sex and menial labor for second class citizenship, even slavery.

    Let’s say a healthy, British White Man were to desire to step in and provide what this woman says she wants. He’d be rejected.

    Which seems insane until you examine the group behavior of Brits. The men especially engage in all the behaviors of an enslaved people. A THOROUGHLY enslaved people.

    This is low risk behavior for the black muslims. And there is a long line of white British girls waiting for their chance.

    The really sick part about this is it usually happens after a major genocidal war is lost and most of the male population of the losing side has been killed off.

    • Susannah

      Yes, it really is stupefying to realize that this phenomenon is not the result of military conquest, but the result of a breathtakingly traitorous government and elite saying “Here you go, take what you wish,” to a backward and misogynistic alien race with a nefarious agenda. It’s shocking and depressing how little resistance is being offered to this outrageous state of affairs.

      • Cheri Rodriguez

        Looks like Hitler went about defeating England all wrong.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        It is by military conquest. The dopy whites just don’t know who is conquering them.

        The title of the book is a translation of part of Proverbs 24:6, which Ostrovsky alleges is the former motto of the Mossad: be-tahbūlōt ta`aseh lekhā milkhamāh (Hebrew: בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה), which loosely translates to “By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War.”

    • Sick of it

      A lot of folks cannot see that voting will not change this situation in an appreciable way. No matter how people vote, society is changing at a fundamental level. Something more drastic is required to save our race.

    • George Moriarty

      In other words (Anon) you are suggesting that British males have been neutered by PC as well as every anti-discrimination law on the statute book and as a result white British girls are looking for a real man and unfortunately a black Muslim often provides what they are looking for. Happens here also, the girls in the office will just drool over some great Muslim hunk.

    • listenupbub

      Also, we should mention the evolutionary strategy of “cuckolding.” To cuckold your sexual competitors is a good way of making your genes beat theirs. We have found that rape has a biological element. We see that competing races rape women from other races, especially in wartime. Put two and two together.

    • carriewhite64

      Your theory is repellent, but I have to agree with you. The only point I would argue is that these children (not women yet) were simply targeted early, since young girls are not hard to impress, and they would have minimal, if any, competition from British males, as they would have had they targeted desirable British women. It sounds as if these girls had disordered lives with no adult supervision. They were easy targets, as children like that always are. I disagree that there is a “long line of white British girls waiting for their chance.” Unless most British children are attention starved and have parents who are clueless or don’t care.

    • LackawannaErie

      That’s what happened to Indian women during the Spanish conquest of Latin America and what black women did in America of most of it’s history. Black American’s hate for whites largely stems from this.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      That is what happens when you help the weaker (Britain) defeat the stronger (Germany).


    • JohnnyMangoes

      This is true, and it’s a testament to the animal nature of all human beings, women in particular (not trying to be misogynistic).

      The curious thing about it is that rather than acknowledge this terrifying biological reality, the majority of the world chooses to simply party away their lives on a cloud of some kind of feel-good Facebook / Apple-fueled ignorance…. having exchanged religion for a belief in evolution, most people still refuse to acknowledge this very basic element of human breeding patterns.

    • Alden

      These 2 were not exactly women but you are exactly right. It is the exact behavior of conquered people through out history. It is also a result of the over kill of the British child welfare system. In most countries only children with truly horrible parents are taken away and placed in group homes. In England it seems there are lesbian and immigrant social workers every where taking children from acceptable parental homes and placing them in group homes where they can be exploited like this.

      Even the American black pimps treat their child and teen prostitutes better.

    • Alden

      Check this out. The White English will be forbidden to mount any kind of demonstration against the Rotherham rapists and the police member of parliament, Mayor, city council and child welfare workers whose allowed the rapes to go on for so many years. Blacks pakis indians and arabs can riot as much as they wish but protests against rape and sex slavery will be forbidden. It is from free republic if you want to read more.

      Exclusive: Police and council move to ban Rotherham abuse protests ( UK )

      May 24, 2015 10:29:41 PM PDT · by george76 · 6 replies

      the star ^ | 23 May 2015 | Chris Burn

      Police and council bosses are to apply to the Government to have protest marches by extremist groups in Rotherham outlawed. Rotherham Council’s commissioners have written to Home Secretary Theresa May advising her they are planning to make a joint submission with South Yorkshire Police asking to be allowed the special powers. … They want to be granted powers under the Public Order Act that would allow for the banning of public marches of an initial period of up to three months. … The most expensive and high-profile operations followed the publication of the Jay report in August, which revealed South…

  • Luca D.

    Britain is like a mad scientist who has injected himself with a deadly experimental virus and then when it is found he is dying from it, descends into complete denial. And continues the same experiment over and over again.

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    Someone recently said the British Empire had come to an end. I beg to differ. It’s still ending. They have not yet reached bottom.

    • Jason Lewis

      Now you know why they were disarmed years ago.

    • Ella

      Honestly, I never thought it would come this far where whites would not resist.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        You can tell how wimpy white people are by the fact that they keep telling everyone how strong and brave they are.

        • JohnnyMangoes

          Assuming whites did resist, it would almost certainly be a suicide mission going up against a hostile government as well as being grossly outnumbered. On top of that the majority of whites still, pretty much, have too much to live for (food, entertainment, nightclubs, etc).

          It’s death through debauchery. The same thing happened to the Romans. When the barbarians came crashing into Rome, there was simply no one left to fight.

          • Alden

            In Rotherham there were instances of Fathers trying to prevent the rapes and rescuing their daughters from rape houses and the Fathers were arrested for disturbing the peace. Other parents who kept reporting the rapes were arrested for “wasting police time”

            Girls as young as 12 were also arrested for disturbing the peace for screaming for help in Rotherham while the rapists were allowed to leave.

  • LHathaway

    Once is rape. Hundreds of times, not just between hours of the day, or between different days, but between 2006 and 2012, that is at the most statutory rape. Since this disingenuous article (aren’t they all) connect them, that is to say, considers them all the same, we can assume statutory rape is all that ever happened.

    These girls were with these men because they felt it benefited them. This is a pattern that likely takes place all across the UK. Younger girls dating older boys or men. The men in this case are likely guilty of statutory rape, at least, for any indiscretions that occurred while any of these girls were under the age of 18.

    • LackawannaErie

      This guy has a total lack of understanding of female psychology. Look up the “Stockholm Syndrome” phenomena. Women have a natural tendency to sympathize with a captor. It’s part of being submissive and part of what makes women different from men.

      This sperglord is obviously a total failure with women in real life, as evidenced by his misogynistic bitterness and failure to grasp why these girls were behaving the way they did during their ordeal. He likely has never been in a real relationship with a women. Those who have would understand female psychology at least a little bit.

      • JohnnyMangoes

        It’s the “bad boy” urge. Along with the urge towards killers, degenerates, etc. It’s all well documented.

        • ViktorNN

          These were very young girls. Whatever their stated motivations, they were simply incapable of consenting to these predators.

    • Alden

      The girls were 12 and 13, incapable of consenting to sex. What is a girl or boy, man or woman supposed to be able to do when they are naked on a bed, their partner, lover whatever you want to call the piece of scum gets off and several of his friends are waiting in line?

      I doubt a young fit man would be able to fight off 5 rapists.

      • LHathaway

        Since the rapes occurred over a 6 year period, the girls appeared to be fighting to get there, not fighting to get away. In the other case, in Rotherham, it was thousands of girls over 2 decades.

        If they were under 18, and the boys weren’t, it was statutory rape, regardless, unless, well, the girls somehow forced the boys.

  • LHathaway

    “The men filled the dock in court, some of them using the services of various interpreters speaking Hindi, Urdu, Pashto and Punjabi”.

    lol, they speak 4 complete separate languages. Who knew diversity could unite them all? Perhaps Hillary knew.

    • Rob

      Hindi, Urdu, Pashto and Punjabi was what was spoken when the Brits ruled those people in colonial times. I bet those old school brits never even dreamed that one day those languages will be in their motherland.

    • carriewhite64

      Can you imagine what these cases are costing the court system?

    • LackawannaErie

      Notice that the trolls who show no solidarity with whites who are being victimized are always bringing up partisan political nonsense. WTF does Hillary have to do with any of this? One of the worst things that has happened since Obama took office is that white nationalist internet sites have been flooded with partisan Republican Fox News watcher types who are angry about racial issues but have no background in the white nationalist movement or understanding of what is really going on. They also try to turn things back on this dog and pony show political theatre that they get from listening to Rush Limbaugh. It used to be that you went to sites like this to get away these people.

      • LHathaway

        My, injecting Hillary into the subject bothers you, as perhaps it should. It’s pretty rare, in that I almost never do such a thing. And I must say, I’ve been commenting on this site pretty regularly for well over 10 years. What is the saying, ‘small minds talk about events’, ‘average minds talk about people’, ‘great minds talk about ideas’? To talk about myself, again, I almost never talk about events or people, but I certainly did in this case (interesting all the positive votes).

        But I can’t help but noticing. In a post of your’s seemingly meant to call me out, about a cheap and superficial (and perhaps irrelevant zinger) you yourself write, “One of the worst things that has happened since Obama took office . . . ”

        Hypocrisy runs strong in you, or you’re a bleeping moron.

        Oh wait, you’ve decided not to address me at all but address all of your fellow believers, writing, “Notice the trolls . . . “. Your adoring fans, perhaps?

        How about, ‘Hypocrisy runs strong in this one, the bleeping moron . . .’?

        Is that more to your taste?

  • SentryattheGate

    What happened to the Muslim pigs in the last UK court cases (for these same type crimes)? I imagine they did not get deported! (Or castrated!)

  • Cid Campeador

    When are the real Brits going to start taking these scumbags out?

    • Cheri Rodriguez

      Part of that taking out is going to have to include any police, courts, politicians, military, etc., who are protecting the scumbags.

  • Ella

    Some minorities and even educators do not want white females to have any self-esteem and identity, which help develop a sense of worthiness or place in society. As a result, they are more vulnerable to these external influences and exploitations. Back at home, this is “normal” behaviour among the eleven Asian men.

    • carriewhite64

      Agreed. Obviously there is something interrupting the healthy growth of these girls at that critical age. At age 11 I would have run to my dad at the first contact with a grown man that seemed off. I would have been scared, but confident that my dad would have taken care of me. My daughters did not have a father, but I’m pretty sure they would have come to me in that situation. I’m not blaming these children for what happened to them, just theorizing that something in their lives was not right before this happened. Pedophiles are notorious for their ability to sense weaknesses in certain children and their life situations.

      • LackawannaErie

        Most of the girls involved are in “state care.” That’s a euphemism for orphanages. Apparently, the modern liberal welfare state orphanages have lax discipline and they are not allowed to just lock girls in who run away or stay out past curfew.

        Pedophiles and pimps have always targeted orphans as the easiest victims, in every society as far back in history as you want to go.

        • carriewhite64

          I did not realize that most of the girls were not living in families. That is even more infuriating, but not surprising. That revelation makes me even more sad for these girls who were out there with no one caring or looking out for them. Welcoming the attention of a pimp is indicative of how sterile and bleak their lives were to begin with.

          • ViktorNN

            I think you’re right. These girls are coming from broken white families – likely broken by drug/alcohol abuse, cycles of divorce, lack of opportunity. They end up in the state system and eventually on the street, at the mercy of Asian sexual abusers.

            The system demonstrates its anti-white bias in at least two ways in such incidences:

            1. Wealthy white ruling elites encourage social policies which tend toward the destruction of the traditional white family.

            2. Wealthy white ruling elites abandon the white working class, leaving working class whites on their own to have to fight for their own safe living spaces while being preyed on by predatory non-white orcs who have been imported to replace them.

          • carriewhite64

            Your two points get to the heart of this evil better than I could have. I completely agree. Abandonment of working and lower class white families by rulers and other elites leads to this type of exploitation of children by making them vulnerable to this type of attack. The fact that the girls were not believed, even when their fathers accompanied them to police stations sickens me.

        • Alden

          Orphanages do not exist any more and were abolished almost 100 years ago. They live in foster homes or group homes. They go to a regular neighborhood state school and come and go as teens living at home with parents do.

          There are regular dinner times and a curfew, but once the kids leave for school in the morning until 9 or so at night they are pretty much at large. Remember, the people who run the group homes and social services are often affirmative action arabs pakis indians the same people who rape the girls.

      • Reynardine

        The elephant in the room is the disturbing amount of female hormones (estogens, especially xenoestrogens) that pervade modern food, containers, and even water. The left has pushed contraception, but despite being invested in environmental impacts, remain utterly silent about the impacts of birth control.

        In my mind, there is no doubt that this is a cause of the earlier onset of puberty seen today and possibly account for many other disturbing trends. Perhaps these young women are experiencing urges that they shouldn’t for some years, and being quite mentally immature to deal with male advance. Consequently, they find themselves entrapped when they discover the reality of their situation.

  • Jim Davis

    Keep importing more Britain. You obviously care nothing about your daughters.

  • james AZ

    That good to watch the muslims and Asians destory British girls because white British men doing NOTHING. BYE weak Britain !!!!!

    • freddy_hills

      You think it’s good? What’s wrong with you?

  • Easyrhino

    I assume these girls are White, if not I couldn’t care less.

    Prison for this type of scum is little more than an inconvenience. I’d recommend making a statement (involving body parts) to that community that would resonate with their medieval values. See: “Remílson Martins”

    • Alden

      A three way, not two way operation if you get what I mean. Then stick a dirty straw in the urethea and hope for the best. If not all the better.

  • ViktorNN

    I can’t exactly hold up the U.S. as a place where white people have their act together, but for the love of god, what’s the matter with white people in Britain? Why on earth are they tolerating this?

    • Cindy

      The disease of White guilt is much worse in Britain than US. Not sure why. Maybe they’re taking the whole “gentleman” thing too far.

      What I find incredibly sad is that England went through hell during WWII keeping clean, high IQ White Germans from invading, only to turn around and roll out the red carpet for a bunch of dirty stupid savages.

      • Rob

        And you know who made sure of that It was the people we were foolish to save from the camps.

  • sam sneed

    This is the 30th such ring of child abusers, all different men, all doing the same thing, what conclusion can you draw? This is ENDEMIC in their SAVAGE CULTURE.

    Proposal: Gangs of football teams with baseball bats lie in wait as teams of cute schoolgirl bait walks down the streets or near schoolyards. When the car pulls over with a stinky paki offering candy, it will be the last time that happens. We are so de-testosteronized that this doesnt happen hell its goin gto have to be the CHICS who take of these scum our men have no balls.

    • LHathaway

      “This is ENDEMIC in their SAVAGE CULTURE”.

      That, or White women are extremely loose. These girls showed ’em, though.

      • LackawannaErie

        The conservative Republican mind at work.

        • Alden

          Exactly. Every once in a while someone calls me a conservative. I always answer that I a a White nationalist or White survivor. There are few White nationalists.

          Unfortunately conservatives try to get us to join in on their anti abortion, anti gay, pro military, ridiculous patriotism,their amateur thoughts on the constitution, pro capitalism, anti worker, their version of Christianity, the good old days, have 5 White kids even if you don’t have a job, work hard go to college get good grades and you won’t be affected by affirmative action, Christian zionism, Israel uber America all that old fuddy duddy blathering.

          White nationalism is White nationalism. We may be a tiny group but we should not get involved in any conservative issues as conservatives have never lifted a finger to help us and never will.

      • ViktorNN

        In the case of the incidents mentioned in this article, and in other cases like those in Rotherham, the victims were underage girls. Often middle school age. Not “White women.”

        • LHathaway

          Since the abuse went on in some case a decade or longer, with the same girls. . they sure weren’t under age girls when it ended. When the ‘abuse’ ended. Once is rape. Returning every Friday from 2008 to 2012 is not rape. It is at most statutory rape. But you’re right, the underaged should be protected.

          • ViktorNN

            Rape takes many forms. Psychological abuse and manipulation by a more sophisticated and mentally/physically powerful adult of a child or a teenager is just as wrong, and just as much rape as holding a child or a teen down and raping them.

          • Alden

            Google the Rotherham scandal for a few days. In most cases the girls and their families were threatened with death and torture. One girl had her tongue nailed to a wooden table. Several rotherham families had their homes set on fire. Some Rotherham families had to move. Bear in mind that because so many English people live in council housing it is not easy to move from one council flat to another. The move has to be approved by a plethora of government workers most of whom are arab paki indian whatever.

            Because so much of English housing is council housing private
            housing prices is very high even in the north. So the socialist government has council tenants trapped.

            I have followed the story for months. You obviously have not. You probably think they were developed intelligent 16 year olds consciously being race traitors. They were not they were and are 12 year old children of low IQ badly educated in state schools raised by socialist affirmative action workers and either ignored or arrested by the police when they went to the police for protection.

          • Alden

            You are acting like a black. You blame everyone but the rapists, the girls, British society, even estrogen in the water and better nutrition that results in early puberty for boys as well a girls.

            It is not estroen in the drinking water, it is the ratio of fat to muscle that triggers puberty in girls. Before 1960 when the English working class were undersized starved and malnourished working class girls generally did not menstruate until 16 sometimes 17 or 18.

            Working class English men of that era were a full 6 inches shorter than middle and upper class men and the boys were so starved that they did not start puberty until 17 or 18. during both WW1 and 2 the Russian, German, French, Austrian, Italian and American soldiers were shocked at how undersized the English enlisted men were,
            5ft 2 or 3, not even 5ft 5.

            But with several generations of good nutrition thanks to socialism the working classes now reach puberty at normal ages, 12 for girls 14 for boys.

            If you want to harumph about the sex revolution and birth control and immorality harumph about some other article, not an article about organized rape of children by muslim scum.

  • Rob

    I can never understand how any man could allow this to happen to his womenfolk. if that happened to mine, God help these third worlders. How can the British males call themselves men when they allow this to happen and not do one thing about it?

    • LHathaway

      Double down on supporting the helpless, underprivileged, powerless female of the race, and puffing yourself up as a White Knight. I’m sure it will help you. *sarcasm*

      lol, I’m reminded of one of those Sci Fi short stories that aired on ‘The Outer Limits’, which was also about the female of our species. In the twist at the end, one of the ‘girls’ incredulously asks, “You’re still worried about what happened to them. . ?! You should be worried about what we’re going to do to you”.

      In this case, however, perhaps it should play out as, “You should be worried about what we’ve done to you”.

      • carriewhite64

        Let’s say that there were a gang of “Asian” men like these gangs, except they were homosexual and targeted 11 and 12-year-old boys. Let’s say they used the same methods: providing the boys with attention, money, drugs, alcohol, video games, and other gifts. Then they isolated them, began having sex with them, and passing them around to other gang members. Would you then characterize the boys as traitors who do not need white knights? Would you use the words “underprivileged” and “powerless” sarcastically about the victims? Would you say, “Those boys showed them (loose white men)”?Obviously, human behavior is driven by what benefits, as you point out, but would not this be in play with boys also? Maybe I am misreading your tone, and if I am, I apologize, but most of your outrage seems to be directed at the girls who were targeted, groomed, raped, and basically used as unpaid prostitutes at an age that civilized people do not recognize as the age of reason.

        • LackawannaErie

          LHathaway is a misogynist troll, not a white nationalist. He has said similar things about this exploitation before.

          • carriewhite64

            Well, that’s discouraging. I thought I may have misread his meaning.

          • LackawannaErie

            No, he has been at this routine for a long time. Don’t confuse LHathaway and people like him for white nationalists, they are just angry Republicans who don’t like non-whites.

            Many of the people who post here are like that.

          • LHathaway

            What is going on in the UK, if it is anything like the US, is that millions of immigrants are moving to the UK every year. You’ll find that the vast majority of unmarried immigrants, the vast majority of these millions of immigrants, are male. They’re each eligible for positive action. They’re taking ‘jobs away’ from natives. They’re then marrying White British women. Positive action females want a husband who has ‘similar interests’ to them. There are poor or working class immigrants and people of color in the UK, millions of them too. They are impregnating White British women (they are certainly having sex with them) and not so much marrying them. Again, this is if the UK is anything like the US.

            Now, maybe this story is running in the news because secretly those who run the news are White nationalists (and I should be sorry for offending them). Maybe the ‘news story’ is itself mostly made up and invented (the whole event was orchestrated – for the very purpose of putting it in the news) – for who knows what purpose. Maybe it’s just more fair and balanced news coverage. And I should just shut my mouth. I choose not to.

          • LackawannaErie

            What are you rambling about? You have told us repeatedly that you don’t care about white 11 year old girls who are being made sex slaves by Muslims. You think they want this to happen and that they deserve it. Why are you on a pro-white site if you think this way?

          • LHathaway

            Heck, I think most of the serious posters on this site owe their true allegiance to something closer to hate-watch. That’s why it exists and why it has been funded. If that’s your definition of pro-white, keep it.

            I choose to react to this story in a different way than you. get over it.

          • LHathaway

            Every time.

        • LHathaway

          “Obviously, human behavior is driven by what benefits, as you point out, but would not this be in play with boys also”?

          Yes, if we take an 18th or 19th Century view of things, boys and girls both are selfish, self-interested, only do whats best for themselves, and are by nature, raised in sin. Only girls, during the last Century or so, have been told their greed and selfishness is an act of virtue, an actual redress of (not imagined, but inverted) grievances. I suppose I do have an odd view of the female of our species. I remember watching the film ‘As Good as it Gets’, starring Jack Nicholson, on TV. During the film Jack Nicholson’s charter is asked how is able to write fictional female characters so accurately, Nicholson replies, “I think of a man, then I remove reason and accountability”. I imagine I might reply a similar way myself. All we’ve done is give the powerful, the supremely powerful, more power. We’ve even done while portending a fraud that they are victims.

          As far as your comments about homosexuality . . . I suspect you are barking up the wrong tree . . . I don’t condone or support homosexual behavior. I don’t condone or support statutory rape either. I’m quite conservative regarding this matter also. Even among conservatives I would be considered conservative regarding this matter. I point that out in my comments themselves. I do point out that White girls are dating White boys older than themselves and likely do this as a matter of common or even more likely occurrence. I don’t approve of this either.

          • carriewhite64

            First, I’m not sure how you got from my post that I thought you supported homosexuality. The post was about sexual exploitation of children. Second, claiming that girls are encouraged, implicitly or explicitly, to behave selfishly and greedily and to think of that behavior as virtuous is delusional. Even if these girls were not behaving exactly as you would approve of, they did not deserve to be raped by gangs and their plight ignored by their own countrymen.Third, the delusional thinking that allows you to claim that the gang members were being exploited by the girls is disturbing and I don’t have the stomach to comment on it.

          • LHathaway

            Sorry if I upset your stomach, but I must also add . . . the ‘reversal’ you’ve presented is not correct. A reversal of the situation would not be immigrants taking advantage of gays or young men. No. A reversal of the situation would be Muslim women and girls plying White boys with money and gifts in order to have sex with them. And of that, I would heartily approve. I might even consider it rectifying and injustice. I’m not perfect.

          • carriewhite64

            I didn’t posit my example as a “reversal.” Just another scenario. I do know what the true reversal situation would be, of course, but using your example would be ridiculous, since women do not, in general, form predatory sexual gangs and prey on boys. Yes, I do go on and on about immigrant men raping homosexual men. Makes the day pass faster, you know?

          • LHathaway

            “Just another scenario”.

            I hope this is not one where criminals deserve to be raped in prison, as part of some generous effort to ‘encourage’ what you consider to be proper behavior . . .


          • Alden

            We get it Hathaway. you think 11 and 12 year olds who were gang raped by married 30 and 40 year old men were sluts who wanted it.

            I was in law enforcement at one time before affirmative action. Being a woman I was assigned to the rape squad. One of the things the rapists always always said was “she wanted it” “Maybe I had to break her wrist and tie her down but i know she wanted it”

            You know the easiest and most effective way to make a rape suspect confess? Just send a male detective, DA or Das investigator in there and talk trash a bit about women and pretty soon the rapist is bragging about he raped the victim. They will often go on about other women they raped. In fact a lot of rape cases get cleared that way. The unspeakable creature confesses to the rape for which he is arrested and then goes on to brag about the other rapes.

            All the men I worked with told me how the rapists always always claimed that the victims wanted the sex no matter how hard she fought and how badly he injured her to get her to hold still.

            You say the same things about rape victims, “they wanted it” as the 70 IQ black scum of the earth black rapists did.

          • LHathaway

            The rapes were going on over two decades, and in this case, from 2008 to 2012. They wanted something.

          • LHathaway

            “the rapists always always claimed that the victims wanted the sex no matter how hard she fought and how badly he injured her”

            What does that say about them?

            I would have guessed there might be all different types. Interesting they’re all the same.

          • LHathaway

            I especially like the part where they trick them into a confession. The authorities appeal to their sense of grievance and vanity. Otherwise, we’d never know about these deeds they wish would remain hidden?

          • LackawannaErie

            Then WNs wonder why we can’t attract any women to our movement after letting some freak repeatedly say that 11 year white orphans wanted to be gang raped. No where else would those kind of statements be tolerated but a WN site.

          • Alden

            Hathaway sounds very much like the English feminazi liberal social workers who supervised the girls in the group homes. Isn’t he the guy who sometimes sounds off about young White men who aren’t married and the Father of 3 with 2 more kids on the way before they are 30 but never will admit that affirmative action has kept White men out of gainful employment and are thus unable to support children and a home?

          • LackawannaErie

            We are talking about 11 year orphans being raped. Deranged people like LHathaway repel normal people. We need to keep these twisted folks away from the pro-white movement. It causes tremendous damage to our efforts to have these types hanging around. As he says himself, the reason he is here is because he can say these outrageous and disgusting things without consequence. Anywhere else, someone attacking 11 years girls for being raped would be gone in an instant and if not, there would be 10,000 angry responses. It really reflects badly on Amren and it’s readers that this is not the case here. He certainly wouldn’t be tolerated on Stormfront, National Review, Free Republic or any liberal site.

            In his own words, he dismisses the pro-white agenda and those who advocate with some kind of paranoid fantasy about honeytraps. Way too many people who are psychologically damaged want to glom onto the white nationalist movement because they think it is place where anything goes. We have to do a better job of policing our movement. The comments here have been increasingly dominated by a handful of weirdoes who do not share Amren’s stated goals, but only want attention and forum to act out their psychological problems.

          • LHathaway

            I’ve never heard of you before. I’ve been posting on here nearly every day for well over 10 years, and I’ve never heard of you before. Who the H are you? Certainly no one to me. I agree with you 100%, we need to police our own. The only ones who would be weeded out if you were in charge of these efforts would be those with an IQ above 100.

          • ViktorNN

            There is very little point in criticizing these particular “girls in the UK.” They were plainly, obviously, victims of rape by non-white orcs who should not even be in Britain in the first place.

            It should come as no surprise to you that twisting the incident around in order to criticize British white women is going to come across as offensive and anti-white.

            Such problems wouldn’t even be happening if orcs weren’t in our white lands. This should be our starting point.

          • LHathaway

            Clearly I was criticizing girls in the UK and not trying to defame individual victims. I’m not sure what I was doing, but the ‘abuse’ in Rotherham (just one of 30 cities?) went on for over two decades and there were thousands of English girls caught up in it in Rotherham alone?

            I’m not sure what to make of all this, but, could it be, if given a choice, women and girls prefer men who they believe are violent? If so, if this is true, what does that say about men’s violence? Indeed, what would that say of our troubled history on this planet?

            Of course, the only way to discover if this is true, in a belated sort of fashion, would be to truly address violence in our society and take care to prevent it, to prevent – to protect all of our members of society, and not just a chosen half? (although – keep up the important work you’re doing!).

          • LackawannaErie

            “I’ve been posting on here nearly every day for well over 10 years…”

            Enough said.

          • carriewhite64

            This is quite dispiriting.

          • Alden

            I think that woman character is a man without a brain is from Sam Johnson or Oscar Wilde or another English author.

        • Alden

          Hathaway obviously is unfamiliar with the scandal. He probably thinks abortion is more dangerous to the White race than affirmative action and black on White crime. He should however familiarize himself with the scandal before blaming the victims.

          He probably believes that in 300 years no White man ever touched a black slave woman and that all these light skinned blacks are the descendants of black slaves and slutty Irish indentured servant girls aka slaves.

          • LackawannaErie

            The question is why are scary wierdo losers like him tolerated on here.? He would have been gone a long time ago anywhere else.

    • There is something seriously wrong with British society, after 50 years of slow-drip liberalism. Family values have largely been shattered. Family units have been shattered, along with institutions of marriage and fatherhood.

      Promoscuity and “feminism” has run amok. Parents are often no longer “in charge” of their offspring. “Sexting” is getting widespread in early teens. Drugs and sex seems to be everywhere.

      Interracial relationships have been “normalised” – or at least, people need to say the are “proud” to not be “prejudiced” against who their kids are dating. This muddies the water.

      The police are more likely to arrest and jail a father for forcefully rescuing his daughter than there is of these men going to prison. Or that how it feels out there. Nobody trusts the law or the courts if they have breached the “PC” line in some way.

      Communities are not strong. People hardly know their neighbours even after living next door for 20 years in some cases. Nobody gets involved much in public events any more. Everybody is holed away in their homes, watching TV or computer games.

      Phthalates, and other poisons are making men lose ‘fight’ and ‘drive’ via eradication of testosterone. In fact, testosterone of men has approximately halved since the turn of the last century. What was then a “low” testosterone level is now amongst our “highest”.

      60 years plus of peacetime has made most people weak and feeble. Immigration has allowed people in who are not so affected and have no problem with using chains, baseball bats and knives – where in the old days it would have been fists only.

      Throw it all together and it has been a recipe for disaster.

      • Rob

        I can see what you are saying in shows like Eastenders. It shows the trashiest of British culture. I did not know that the UK had sunk that badly. I thought it was just certain areas that were that bad.
        I thought the football holligans had a lot of testostrone. They always seem to be fighting. The white male has been emasculated and that is everywhere. I guess more in the UK.
        I thought the UK was returning to its old roots. I thought shows like Downton Abbey and selfridges and other shows were paving the way to return to the old classy ways. I have noticed one thing, that they seem to be pushing more and more negroes even in certain eras where there were no negroes in the UK. I wonder if that is the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) doing all that.

        • Alden

          Downton Abbey don’t get me started. It is just a mass of lies all that garbage about the Earl spending his life caring for his servants. Those servants and gardeners were treated badly by both the employers and supervising servants. It did not happen that way.

          Downton ABBEy is also cliche after cliche after cliche. The story lines are a hop skip and jump through early 20th century history.

          Selfridge is pretty good in that the problems are real. Downton Abbey goes on and on about rich women not being able to vote. Selfridge goes on and on about the real problems of 85 percent of the population the working class.

          I saw a BBC show on netflix I thought I would like as I love spy and intrigue stories. It was about some English government security agency.

          First episode a group of evil American Christian anti abortion activists travel to England to bomb abortion clinics although the UK doesn’t have abortion clinics abortions are done at the regular oby gyny clinics

          Second episode Evil English working class skinheads plan to beat up some pakis who live in the same housing project.

          Third episode Evil White English men plan to burn some paki indian businesses.

          I didn’t look at the previews of the rest of the episodes. BBC has blacks even in the 1930’s Agatha Christie shows.

          • Rob

            Yes blacks and gays. They have them all over their shows even in period dramas when there were no blacks in the UK. The BBC must be happy to promote miscegenation and DIE-versity.
            These English shows all want to promote that white people are evil. There maybe some, but on the whole it is not true. It is because of whites that the African and Asian people are still alive and thriving.
            I guess Downton Abbey is not all true, but at least it shows how classy people were back then. My surprise was making that Rose fall in love with a negro and then make the whites the as the villains for stopping their supposed ROMANCE. All done to confuse people. The media knows how to mislead people.

  • KenelmDigby

    Just for the record, Aylesbury is a rather affluent town in the ‘home counties’ of England.
    It has a big subcon population, why that is, I do not know. Perhaps in the 1960s some former industrial employer attracted them there, as in the case of High Wycombe.

    This mass, nationwide phenomenon in England has a number of causes.
    The natural, low down, native cunning and duplicity intrinsic to subcons, combined with a high sex drive, bordering on pervisity also characteristic of that ethnicity.
    Feminism, which in the UK, at least has been raised to the status of state religion. Basically, White women have (in their own minds) asserted their ‘superiority’ and ‘independence’ from White men, and more or less do what they damn please. The law backs them up in every instance.
    The British political class is inherently biased in favor of subcons and is anti White male.
    Also, unfortunately, is the tendency of many foolish young White girls to whore themselves out to these cunning, disgusting subcons for ‘gifts’ of cash, drugs, alcohol etc.

  • Harry Schneider

    The Brits are stupid as they could have voted for UKIP just recently.

    • Approximately 4 Million did…. but anybody expecting UKIP to deal with this situation or any kind of racial/civilisation threat to our future is quite delusional in my view. There were always a lot of comments with “Vote UKIP” as the proposed solution to many horriffic things going on in this country. I don’t know why they expect them to do anything about it. If it was a ethno-nationalist party, fair enough, you’d expect some serious and harsh changes to take place – but UKIP? Nah. They are slowly moving the goalposts of political discourse, but they are not any real solution to things like this.

  • JohnnyMangoes

    What’s up with these Arab Muslims. Had my first contact with a couple of them today in Beijing. Came in being very rude to the very polite wait staff at a high end restaurant, acting like they owned the place.

    My feeling is they’re violent, bullies, aggressive, etc. Don’t like them.

    It’s gonna be interesting to see how the next future conflict works out. The Chinese will deal with the how they’ve always been dealing with them. Zero tolerance.

  • MekongDelta69

    “Men”? No – they’re mooz-lim.

    “Brits”? No again – they’re still mooz-lim.