One in 8 Germans Would Join Anti-Muslim Marches: Poll

Reuters, January 1, 2015

One German in eight would join an anti-Muslim march if a rapidly-growing protest movement organized one in their home towns, according to an opinion poll published on Thursday.

The survey highlighted growing support in Germany, as in other European Union countries including Britain and Sweden, for parties and movements tapping into voter fears that mainstream politicians are too soft on immigration.

Some members of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservative bloc worry that they risk losing support to the euro-sceptic Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, which has shifted its focus to immigration and includes many who also back the PEGIDA protest movement–Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the West.

PEGIDA is holding weekly rallies in the eastern city of Dresden, and attracted more than 17,000 people to a Dec. 22 rally. A few small marches have taken place in other towns, and it plans to stage further rallies in other German cities.


A poll of 1,006 people by Forsa for Germany’s Stern magazine found 13 percent would attend an anti-Muslim march nearby. It also found 29 percent of people believed that Islam was having such an influence on life in Germany that the marches were justified.

While two thirds of those polled believed the idea of an ‘Islamisation’ of Germany was exaggerated, many Germans are concerned about the numbers of asylum seekers fleeing countries such as Syria.


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  • Dave West

    Only 29%?

    • Speedy Steve

      Let me know when that figure rises to 5 out of 8

    • Sick of it

      Germany is not nearly so German as it used to be.

      • ElComadreja

        They’ve been beaten with the “Holocaust” stick for the last 70 years.

        • Sick of it

          Not to mention the immigration stick.

    • Mike Lane

      Give the pessimism a break. Jesus Christ. The fact that this many are speaking up is a good sign.

    • Epiminondas

      For Germany, that’s epic.

    • BulgAryan

      This letter to Merkel by a Bielefeld criminal police inspector is getting viral on German social networks:


      • BulgAryan

        In (machine translated) English:

  • This is a travesty. 87% wouldn’t march and 71% don’t think the marches are justified?

    • Oil Can Harry

      Good for the German majority who reject these marches and embrace political correctness.

      If this movement catches on Germany will become a police state with millions being shipped off to death camps while the German military begins invading neighboring countries, kicking off World War 3.

      Better to do nothing and enjoy a peaceful future under Sharia Law.


      The Tribe.

    • dmxinc

      They’re doing way better than we are.

      Seems no one is willing to do anything in our country, no matter what has been lost and how bleak the future seems.

      • Sick of it

        Apparently we have quite a few willing to march on the police in mobs…while ignoring everyone in power. Low IQ in action.

    • propagandaoftruth

      I remember decades ago during Helmut Kohl’s chancellorship seeing a news story about some nutso punching him in his rather expansive gut. Like, he looked like he wanted to shake his hand, but instead, pow!

  • JackKrak

    What the hell is wrong with the other 7?

    • walt

      They’re not actually Germans. They’re immigrants.

    • rebelcelt

      I suspect after a few large marches and the societal taboos are slowly erased with more and more Germans joining the march.Then more of the Germans will join.

    • See The Future

      The one of eight represents those that have some intelligence. The masses are already brain dead from the media and years of indoctrination. It is not known whether it is possible anymore to mobilize this group of zombies.

  • anony

    The movement grows; that’s what’s important. I’m optimistic.

    • Luca

      And when 7 of 8 Germans voice their opinions at the polls to curb immigration it will be overturned by a liberal judge declaring it a form of hate speech.

  • Luca

    Islam is completely incompatible with Western civilization. It is a cancer that will grow. The fact that politicians would import this catastrophe upon their native populace is simply an example of their inability to solve complex problems that they created in the first place.

    Socialist programs require ever larger numbers of people funding them; it’s a Ponzi Scheme and they have to keep finding new participants or face a financial melt-down. They don’t want a melt-down on their watch, so they slap on a band aid and kick the can down the road.

    • See The Future

      The traditional approaches to cancer are burn, poison and/or cut out.

  • guest

    No matter how many are willing to protest and march against islam in Germany, it’s still better than none at all. Keep up the fight, Germans. Don’t give in to the enemies and the traitors (aka your politicians and leaders) who fight for them.

  • I believe these polls are designed to demoralize whites in their own countries. “See? You’re all alone in your hateful beliefs! Give up, stop fighting, and let us have our way with you.”

    Don’t buy into it. The comments sections on news stories alone betray the lie that realism is unpopular with the masses.

    • David Ashton

      The Final Solution of the “Aryan” Problem?

      • anony

        Gee, There’s an “Aryan” problem?

        • David Ashton

          Goslar now.

    • newscomments70

      I agree. It’s a controlled group that is surveyed, not the general public. Liberals have all kinds of wonderful surveys that prove their agendas are working. i.e. Most gay males are not pedophiles…yet 1/3 of the children molested are boys, and only one percent of the population are gay males. Don’t believe polls that come from liberal media. Liberals want white children to be raped..what happens to people who want to rape your children? You tell me.

      • BlueSonicStreak

        Pedophile orientations are more complex than you’re suggesting.

        Pedophilia, so far, appears to be a neurological disorder, as pedophiles’ limbic systems don’t seem to have developed properly – that’s all we know currently. Some pedophiles have no adult orientation whatsoever (meaning that we have no idea what their orientation WOULD have been if their brains had developed properly) and some of the men who molest boys and DO have an adult orientation are actually attracted to women.

        (As measured by a plethysmograph. Although that observation is not new or dependent on studies using penile plethysmography; it dates back to some of the earliest qualitative study of pedophiles. I believe it was first noted in “The Child-Lovers,” first published in 1983, which was based on what pedophiles wrote to each other in an underground mailing list in the UK. There doesn’t appear to have been much motivation for them to all lie to each other about that.)

        There is no word in the English language for “attracted to pre-adolescent boys and adult women.” Not even “bisexual” works. We have no way to describe it. Calling those men “homosexual” is disingenuous at best, though.

        In reality, the number of men who BOTH molest boys AND have adult sexual relationships with other men are hugely outnumbered by the men who exclusively prefer children (of either gender) or who also have heterosexual adult relationships.

        • newscomments70

          Many of the children molested are actually teenagers, as with the Catholic priests. I would not consider these offenders to be heterosexual. That is technically pederasty, and it is very common with homosexual males. Some use the term pedophilia now as a general term for all underage assaults, but the accepted term in psychology is hebephellia. A man who assaults a teenage boy is not heterosexual, not by a long shot. Yes, there people who are sexless outside of an abnormal attraction to very young children, but usually the orientation is quite clear. I am travelling right now, but I will acquire some statistics for you. (I believe that is important, and I thank you for your comment.) There have been publications that carefully exonerate homosexual males from the majority of sex offenses. I believe these studies are politically motiviated, and the reality is much different. Not all gay males are abusers, I realize that. I believe the number is much higher than published in mainstream media though.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            If you mean younger teenagers, no need to find the stats. It’s well-established that pedophiles who prefer boys have a preferred age range that skews higher than pedophiles who prefer girls (10-14 versus 7-11 or something like that…I don’t have my notes on this anymore). This is generally accepted to be explained by the relative later puberty of boys. A 13-year-old girl is often well on her way to looking like a woman. A 13-year-old boy often still looks like a child. Given that it’s probably easier for molesters to wrest greater participation from older children, it makes sense they would go as old as they could before adult characteristics really set in.

            Gay men may be somewhat over-represented in sex crimes against children (I am aware of them having no significant representation amongst other sex criminals, though); but we will likely not know why that is until we understand both how people come to be gay, and how people come to be pedophiles, and can find a point of correlation. The bigger take-away is that the majority of molesters are either heterosexual or have no adult orientation.

            I agree that there is a careful exoneration of gay men in the literature. But I believe this is because the majority of gay men are, in fact, innocent.

          • newscomments70

            It’s not always easy to quantify these statistics succinctly. Let me give you a real life example. A younger friend of mine, who his now in his late 20s, lived with a gay family member, as a teenager. He came from a dysfunctional home and had no where else to go. The gay relative and his partner reluctantly allowed the teenage boy to live there. He lived with them from age 14-18. The gay couple did not touch the boy, but he experienced constant harrassment from their group of gay friends….groping, grabbing, they tried to kiss him, etc. It was disgusting. This was in an upscale community, with white collar “the pillars of the community”. The gay couple had no idea how to deal with a straight teenager. The boy was not allowed to have a girlfriend, and he was not allowed to bring friends home. The established gay couple did not bring home any “escapades”, to their credit..but they would go out for it. This speaks volumes about gay marriage and gay adoption.

            An interesting survey, performed by Mark Regenerus, sociology professor at U of Texas Austin compared statisitcs of children in gay households to children in straight households. He found: that children of gay couples are an astonishing 11 times more likely to have been “touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver” in childhood. They are nearly 4 times as likely to have been “physically forced” to have sex against their will at some time in their life. Other statistics, such as comparing drug use, alcohol use, are equally as extreme. Regenerus survyed 15,000 people. The other more PC studies survyed about 500-700, each study.

            I do have one gay aquaintence, he is a local restauranteur. He is realistic about things, and tell is it like it is. He has money and often travels with his partner. He told me about his experience in Amsterdam. In Holland, the age of consent is 14. My acquaintence reported visiting various coffee shops in the “gayborhood”. They weren’t porn shops or anything extreme, just coffee and food, etc. He reported, to his horror, that the local gay magazines all featured 14 year old “centerfolds”. That’s pretty disgusting and extreme. They didn’t even bother with the 20 year olds. Again, that speaks volumes, and I have never seen such non-PC realities in any studies.

            i don’t think that all gays are abusers or evil, but it is not a proper environement for children. What I described goes beyond a few exceptions.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Men’s overall willingness to be sexual with teenagers is not exclusive to gay men. I live in a country that used to have 14 as the age of consent. And let’s be real, heterosexual men are no better. When 14-year-old girls were “available,” they were pursued. Pimps in my area hung around middle schools deliberately recruiting 8th and 9th grade girls because they knew if/once she was 14, the cop’s hands were tied to do anything but pick them up for prostitution for a day or two. And pimps liked girls that young because they did very steady business. People lobbied to raise the age of consent here precisely because they considered sexual abuse of 14-16-year-olds – most of them girls – to be rampant.

            This is not to say what happened to your friend is not unfortunate. Gay men have a tendency to be casually and overtly sexual with each other like shaking hands. I received much the same treatment from a gay man I knew when I was 17-18, but he seemed to consider it funny “teasing.” Slapping him away generally worked, and usually made him laugh. It didn’t bother me too much; but if it bothered your friend, the gay couple he lived with should have put a stop to it. It sounds like they actually weren’t fans of playing “parent” at all, and wanted him to affect their life as little as possible.

            The Regnerus study is disturbing if true; but from what I found, there are serious methodological problems with it. You cannot compare children in families with stable heterosexual marriages to children briefly placed in homes with unstable gay relationships. The latter situation in heterosexual relationships (child in the care of, say, a mother with casual boyfriends) is also more likely to see sexual abuse. Comparing those to see if the homosexual version still saw more abused children would be more fair.

            Regnerus also apparently being concerned with somehow performing science in accordance with his faith is something of a concern, as is compromising his peer review.

          • newscomments70

            Although I stand by my opinions, I find your comments interesting. I will consider what you said and look into those statistics. I have heard about the pedophile sex rings in the UK and Holland, which do target girls. In a local gym in my area, I have heard hispanic men rave about the 12-14 year old girls available as prostitutes in their home countries. Their attitidue was, “who cares, why not?”. As for your comment, “You cannot compare children in families with stable heterosexual marriages to children briefly placed in homes with unstable gay relationships.” Outside of a small group of excpetions, most gay male relationships are unstable and temporary. The gay women typically have longer relationships, but they are fraught with alcoholism and domestic violence. The rates of substance abuse are much higher in gay households. That is a well known statistic.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            I agree, gay couples tend to be unstable.

            You could do a study of only gay couples who had consciously chosen to raise a family AS a gay couple (as opposed to ending up with children through a dissolved heterosexual marriage), but that sample would obviously (and by necessity) be “biased.”

            My personal experience is that the gay couples I’ve known who’ve chosen to raise children as a gay couple did so in the context of a stable, monogamous relationship (and after buying a decent home in a good neighbourhood); but I have no way of knowing how representative that is, or if the queers I know are skewed in some way.

            I don’t believe the promiscuity in the gay community is entirely a function of biology. I think a lot of it has to do with a stance of defiance toward “heterosexist” sexual mores. Likewise, I imagine substance abuse to be something correlated with, but not caused by, homosexuality. Hard to prove when we still don’t know what makes people gay, though.

          • newscomments70

            I used to attend an Anglican church (not anymore though). There was a gay couple in the congregation who adopted some kids. I talked with them. They were pretty realistic and careful about things. They did not have groups of whackos into their home and lives. They surrounded themselves with heterosexual friends and families, so that their children would have safe, healthy, environment. They also did not appear to be pederasts or substance abusers. I cannot give you an exact number to prove my statement, but I believe this is more the exception than the rule.

    • Paleoconn

      Agreed. The number would be higher if people didn’t fear for their jobs.

    • Engelsman

      With low numbers being quoted in the polls, minimal media coverage becomes justified. When elections come and the movement does poorly in the elections, no-one questions the legitimacy of the poll or wonders if the results were rigged because the opinion polls gave low figures.

  • ThatWhiteGuy

    Some good news is still good news.

  • TruthBeTold

    1 in 8 is not enough.

    • anony

      It’s a beach head.

  • james AZ

    SOON. 1 OF 4 will fight against islamic in Germany , next some of Europe will become to be 1 OF 3 will fight against Muslims off of Europe. They will say FLAK to EUROPE UNION off of their country soon in future.. There TICK. TICK. TICK. TICK

  • dd121

    They better hurry up before it’s too late. Like us they’re frogs in the proverbial pan of water with heat applied.

    • See The Future

      We do not have the luxury of waiting to see Europe fall. Who will control the nuclear arsenal of Europe when that happens? We are all being lulled into a false sense of security about the future. There is a fine line between order and chaos.

  • JohnEngelman

    This is the beginning of a movement. I hope demonstrators do not discredit their cause with Nazi paraphernalia.

    • Bryce Armstrong

      Since when did Nazi’s hate Islam?

      • John Smith

        Especially since they cut a deal with the Grand Mufti to recruit Bosniaks to kill the Jews.

        • David Ashton

          Learn from past mistakes, but prepare for a clear future.

      • bilderbuster

        They’ve never liked non-Europeans living in Europe.

      • newscomments70

        Not every Nazi was the same person. I believe officially, they had nothing against Islam…they just didn’t want them to colonize their countries.

    • Luca

      Don’t worry, the leftists will plant people among the crowd do that very thing to discredit them.

      • bilderbuster

        And the Jewish owned media will report six million stories about it.

    • curri

      An informed guy like you should know that that sort of thing is illegal in Germany and will get you sent to jail.

      • David Ashton

        Not if agents provocateurs are planted. Many “neo-nazi” and “far right” groups were thus infiltrated by the German authorities.

        • bilderbuster

          If not actually created by them.

          • David Ashton

            The Soviet Zone was behind the “swastika rash” of (I think) 1962.

            They used to say that the KKK was largely and the CPUSA to some extent creatures of the FBI. Von Thadden was working for West German intelligence, Soustelle for the Soviets, and Thiriart allegedly for the Romanian security.

            Incidentally, I have lost, and cannot recover from elsewhere, the German government’s illustrated exposure of the forgeries used by the Sovet Zone to implicate President Luebke in building “concentration camps”, and if any readers can help, it would be much appreciated.

    • anony

      It will be tried. That’s a certainty. The Establishment (TE) will do everything needed to kill these protests. The only way it will even approach success is if it grows to the point, against TE opposition, where a vast majority of the people support it.

      At that point, TE will begin to “negotiate” with the Movement. They will compromise on some issues, but will do all they can to maintain their objective in spite of wide-spread opposition by the people.

      If the Movement succeeds in Germany, then “sanctions” will be imposed on Germany by other Western countries to try to bring Germany to its knees.

      If the movement spreads to the other Western countries, and they refuse to levy sanctions on Germany, then the Movement may succeed.

      Make no mistake, those behind this multi-cultural movement will stop at nothing to make it succeed. Look at what they have already done.

    • bilderbuster

      No, but I’m sure your adopted kinsmen will have their agents out in the crowds doing that so that their media can use that to “discredit” them and their cause.
      Why did you even post that comment when you know that in Germany you can tell any lie about Germans and their “crimes” such as burning millions of Jewish babies but will be thrown in prison for even questioning these figures?

  • kikz2

    i think that number is waaaay low….

  • Cannot Tell

    I’m not that impressed with the protesters that are trying to keep Muslims out of Germany. Are they okay with Arabs and Africans that are not Muslims? If so, they shouldn’t be.

    • OyVey00

      There’s no free speech in Germany. Any party or movement that is against foreigners on the grounds of their race or ethnicity will ultimately risk getting banned by the Verfassungsschutz and their leaders jailed for incitement of hatred like the NPD.

  • jayvbellis

    Radical Islam…

    A force all Whites from Left to Right oppose.

    They are the “other”

    It’s Us vs Them.

    The 2014 German World Cup Soccer team represtened “us” in Brazil.

    We “us” kicked arse, we won.

    “They” nasty NW Muslims didn’t even show up to contest.

    We won.

    Any questions?

    Oh, there are some Ron and Rand Paul Libertarian loons mouthing all kinds of nonsense to dispute this us vs them.

    Can’t we sent them on some Libertarian loon missions to Iraq?

    • Malachy_Vilnius

      ‘Radical Islam…

      A force all Whites from Left to Right oppose.’

      Sorry but some Leftists even support Radical Islam!

      This is known as the ‘Red/ Green Alliance’. The Red commies want to let them in knowing they are poo and a potential ‘new proletariat’.

      There is a guy I work with that fits exactly this description. His mother was a refugee from the former Czechoslovakia, only I think she must have left because they were not communist enough! This guy is a major ‘red diaper’ baby that wants more Muslims in White lands at any costs! Even into Israel! I think he might be a Stalinist.

  • Caucasoid88

    Germans have hosted the relatively mild-mannered Turkish Muslims for decades. Considering 30 percent of Germans want a Germany for Germans (and probably a big portion of the population too scared to be honest in a poll), I smell a reawakening of Deutsch pride.

    I have a German friend who lives in Hamburg and I told him, “Seems Germany’s getting a little tired of Muslims.” His response? “Fuckin’ Muslims.” And he’s as liberal as it gets.

  • Yves Vannes

    I doubt those numbers. People probably don’t want to admit what they really think and feel to an establishment journalist.

  • LHathaway

    lol, I didn’t realize Germany is 13% non-white already. .

    • OyVey00

      Almost 20% of Germans have a “Migrationshintergrund”, as they call it here in PC lingo. Which basically translates to non-German.

  • Malachy_Vilnius

    Many Germans still have memories of the East German Stasi (communist secret police) and so still to this day watch what they say… especially to political pollsters. (There is a good movie called ‘The Lives of Others’ that delves into the Stasi for those who are unfamiliar with this subject)

    I am sure the numbers are much higher then what the Germans ‘admited’… just look at the marches themselves as proof!

  • Capn Dad

    I lived in Germany for 7 years. Germans are very reserved when it comes to expressing opinions of others. The older generation has a fear that the West has cultivated since World War 2. Always have to be on their “best behavior”. Hopefully the younger ones don’t!

  • Realist

    “And 29 percent think the marches are justified.”
    Wow….that many?

  • Luca

    The worst is yet to come. These Muslims will out reproduce your native population exponentially. My friend’s father was a doctor in the Middle East and he asked women in their 40’s why they continued bearing children when they already had ten. Their reply: “We need more martyrs for the ‘Cause’.”

    I am sure that ‘Cause’ has something to do with Jihad, spreading Islam around the world by force if necessary, suicide bombing, destroying Israel and the West, etc.

    But the politicians will tell you: “Diversity is our strength”.

    Revolution is the only answer. Good luck.

  • curri

    It’s the same thing in the US. Democrats and Republicans and conservatives and liberals are always calling their political enemies “Nazis.”

  • anony

    “Just what are we to do? ”

    “I am only one, but still I am one.
    I cannot do everything, but still I can do something.
    And because I cannot do everything,
    I will not refuse to do the something I can do.”

    Edward Everett Hale

    Decide what you, only one, can do, and then do it. Talk to your friends about it; I’m sure some of them feel the same. Tell them to do what they can do. And grow, and grow, and grow.

  • DiversityIsDeath

    “One German in eight…” Who do they classify as “German”?

    • anony

      You must have a German mother. 🙂

      • David Ashton

        I believe this principle, similar to China’s and Israel’s, was recently overturned, but welcome a reassuring correction.

        • anony

          I should have noted that post as sarcasm; I was alluding to one of the other ethnic groups rule. Sorry for the confusion.

      • DiversityIsDeath

        Again- who do they classify as “German”? Who is classified as “a German mother”? Some afroid or paki born on German soil or given German citizenship?

        • anony

          Sorry; my response was facetious. I was referring to other ethnic groups. I suspect that there is some genetic component to “being a German”. White , for starters, European, etc.

    • bilderbuster


  • Johnny Harper

    Germany’s birth rate of 1.2 per female is going to be the death of Germany.

    The Muslims will continue to increase in numbers (with other non White groups) as the Germans decline. They will continue to bring in more immigrants to increase their “tax paying” base, despite the fact that immigrants are usually a net drain on the economy.

    Unless feminism is crushed, Germany has no real chance of reversing this trend.

  • I think the big danger for PEGIDA going forward isn’t “anti-fa,” or terrorist Muslims, or government attempts to ban it. It will be the lamestream conservatives of Germany trying to co-opt the political energy they’ve developed and tapped into, then flying it into the ground. The mechanisms will be a bunch of empty rhetoric on the part of political candidates, and the occasional bone thrown their way in terms of legislation.

  • Samuel Hathaway

    University students… code phrase for “dumb-as-a-stump” and dumber still after having “earned” a “degree.”

    Self-reading, self-educating and independent study are the only ways to be truly enlightened.

  • rentslave

    What’s the matter with the other 7?During a Support The Troops rally in Times Square in 2003,a Muslim camera man for the BBC was astonished to see of all my anti-Muslim signs.

  • IKUredux

    I will tell you this: As a poll respondent, I lied. I was called on the phone. I was asked many questions about blacks and Whites. I LIED! I said blacks worked as hard as Whites. I said that blacks were as smart as Whites. I LIED about every question. I was scared to tell the truth. Where did they get my name? I know they must be recording all my answers. I truly believe, that I am not alone, in my lying, deceptive answers to the nanny state totalitarians.

    Polls cannot be believed. We Whites lie, to save ourselves.

    • anony

      I never respond to polls; I tell them that my price for responding is $500.00 per answer, that my time and opinions are really that valuable. They hang up.

  • anony

    Perhaps the “Daily Telegraph” would entertain publishing some articles like the ones here on Amren if they were submitted by someone like you, and pertained to incidents in Aussie-land.

    And we can all start “monkey-wrenching”, as I mentioned in an earlier post. Use your imagination. Bon chance!

  • David Ashton

    “Some day the mob might become master and drown all history in its shallow sewers. Therefore, a new nobility is needed which shall be the adversary of the mob and of all tyranny.” – Nietzsche.

  • “too soft on immigration?” On the contrary, those politicians are very strict about immigration; they’re strict about forcing it upon Europe.

    • newscomments70

      Years ago, I applied for a German work visa when I graduated with an engineering degree. I also spoke and read German. The German consulate told me that there was almost no chance of this being approved…but they let in all these uneducated Africans who colllect welfare and commit violent crimes. I had a similar experience with Australia. I don’t get it.

      • bilderbuster

        Yes you do.

      • anony

        You’re White.

  • I’m pretty sure even many Muslims are afraid of the islamification of Europe. They’re Muslim – but they also enjoy their booze, their pornography, their drugs and the company of non-Muslim women.

    • anony

      Blood is thicker than booze, porn, or White women.

  • MartelsGhost

    7 in 8 Germans apparently still have their heads up their Arschloch………….

  • bilderbuster

    Germans are too polite to say they don’t want those non-Whites in Germany because they’re not White lest they be accused of being racists who want to lampshade six billion bars of soap.

  • David Ashton

    I saw somewhere the amendment: “that good people, irrespective of color, creed, gender & sexual orientation, do nothing”!!