What Amnesty Has Already Done to America

Rick Oltman, Universal Free Press, November 19, 2014

November 6th marked a dubious anniversary in the history of America. On that day 28 years ago President Ronald Reagan signed into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act, IRCA. Also known as the Simpson-Mazzoli Act, it was an amnesty for illegal aliens, the effects of which we live with today.

IRCA was the most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws since 1952. In 1981 the Reagan Administration asked Congress to pass a comprehensive legislative package that included employer sanctions, other measures to increase enforcement of immigration laws and the legalization of illegal aliens. The Employer Sanctions program was supposed to be the key element that would remove the incentive for illegal immigration by eliminating the job opportunities which was, and is, the number one reason that illegal aliens come to our country.

Whatever its intention, it is undeniable that the IRCA Amnesty of millions of illegal aliens failed to solve the problem of illegal immigration. Instead, the legalization of people who broke our laws and sneaked into our country and were allowed to jump the line in front of legal immigrants only encouraged more illegal immigration by creating a worldwide expectation that if you could just get to the United States, that you too would eventually get amnesty.

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In June of 1984, amidst the presidential campaign, three candidates for the Democrat Presidential nomination; Walter Mondale, Gary Hart and Jesse Jackson opposed Simpson-Mazzoli.

Cesar Chavez, who had his union members calling the INS to report illegal aliens working in the fields so that they could be deported, encouraged the U.S. government to include provisions in the Immigration Reform and Control Act (1986) applying sanctions against employers who knowingly hired illegal aliens.

How many would apply for, or qualify for, amnesty was never known, nor even closely estimated. In 1981 the estimate was one million illegal aliens in the country. By 1984 that estimate had been raised to 1.6 million. Depending on the cutoff date, prior to which the illegal alien could apply, some estimates were raised to 2.2 million.

In 1984 it was believed that the total number of illegals in the country, not all of whom would qualify for the amnesty, was, “somewhere around 6 million.” Some experts, according to TIME Magazine (June 2, 1984), estimated that the real number of illegals in the country in 1984 could be as high as 12 million.

If the number 12 million seems familiar, it is. It is the number that is most used in discussions today by those who want to mask the reality of the immigration anarchy that our government’s failure to enforce our laws has wrought.

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In the early 1980s the Reagan Administration tasked the Social Security Administration, Department of Labor and the Census Bureau to estimate the number of illegals who would likely apply for amnesty. Prior to IRCA it was illegal to work in our country if you were here illegally, but it wasn’t illegal to hire illegal aliens. That double standard was erased by the Act. But, those employers who paid the illegal worker on the books and reported taxes to the IRS and SSA gave these agencies a good idea of the number of workers without a valid Social Security number. The initial official estimate was that 1.1 million illegals would apply for amnesty.

What the federal government apparently didn’t take into account was that many of those 1.1 million would bring friends and relatives back to America to claim five years residence in the same fraudulent manner as those who came and went on a regular basis. That is one reason why the number of applications was three times higher than the original estimate.

When the knowledge of fraud got out, there was a literal stampede of people coming across the border illegally to apply for amnesty and the government was quickly overwhelmed. Estimates of application fraud ranged between 66% and 75%.

Packages of counterfeit utility receipts, written receipts and anything else that would establish a 5 year residency were for sale and only required the name to be filled in. And, these were in the days prior to personal computers. Adjudicators did not to look too closely if on the surface the application appeared to be legitimate.

On the border, whole groups of illegals were turning themselves into BP officers as soon as they crossed the border saying they wanted to apply for the amnesty.

And then the Border Patrol was given orders not to interfere with an alien who was “en-route” to apply for amnesty.

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In implementing the IRCA in 1987-88, the I.N.S. determined that illegal aliens who received welfare assistance were ineligible for amnesty. The Courts later overruled the I.N.S. and told the agency to accept amnesty applications from unauthorized foreigners who had received welfare.

Drenched with fraud, the amnesty raised expectations around the world and in the 28 years since IRCA there have been tens of millions of illegal entries into the United States.

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Expectation is the worst legacy of the 1986 IRCA. It fuels all movement toward our borders because of the continuous talk of another amnesty.

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  • Also keep in mind that IRCA does have a provision that allows a President unilaterally to grant “deferred action” and work permits in exchange for a per-applicant fee. What’s what Obama used to justify DACA.

    Now, with that said, here’s the great plan that Obama’s going to do:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/247320784/White-House-Details-on-Anticipated-Administrative-Relief

    Which is basically DACA writ a little bit larger.

    If this is what it truly is, and nothing more, (and there might be a chance that he’s going to tell gringos one thing and Hispanics another thing), then two groups of people are going to be let down:

    1. The people wanting a “full Emancipation Proclamation.”

    2. Silicon Valley, as there’s nothing in here about freeing up legal immigrant visas by means of allowing one legal immigrant visa to apply to both spouses.

    This is still bad, and should still be resisted, but it’s not as bad as I thought it would be. And it just might be “not bad enough” to deflate Republican resistance efforts.

    • wildfirexx

      they should have never lowered their guard…in the name of amnesty!

      • I have to amend. Evidently Emperor Barack I’s decree will allow for both spouses to be counted on one green card or legal immigrant visa, and it will also create some nebulous and not yet defined “entrepreneur” visa program (read: more quickie marts and motels).

        • dd121

          Sounds like Reagan got duped.

          • Juggernaut3000

            The American people were duped.

          • Realist

            Gruber was right. There are a lot of stupid Americans.

          • none of your business

            Reagan knew exactly what he was doing. He betrayed the Whites who elected him in every way.

  • Fed Up

    [illegal] immigration, mainly from Mexico, as well as other Latin American countries has been going on for some 40 years. Ten years ago, I saw in the Houston Chronicle the government admission the number of illegals coming here pegged at OVER 1,000,000 yearly. So it’s fair to say we have from 30 to 40 million illegals here today.

    The effects? Instant Latino slums — with all that term implies. Our welfare infrastructure drained by the illegals demanding and getting welfare supplements of every kind. Free health care paid by us is a given. As is free schooling/educational benefits for them and their broods. Of course Latinos are breeding as fast as they can. Firstly because we taxpayers feed them and provide the free healthcare. Secondly because their broods become instant citizens. Thirdly, because the goal of Latinos is to outnumber us — especially in the polling booths. Electing, of course — nothing but Latinos to Congress.

    Thank you, Prez. Obama. For your single-minded determination to destroy our Nation with your insane immigration policies! (I really don’t understand why we even need the amnesty he’ll stuff down our throats. The Obama Administration refuses to deport illegals including the hundreds of thousands of criminals amongst them.)

    • wildfirexx

      And the worst part is almost all of these illegal aliens crossing the border are not the cream of the crop. They are mostly poor and uneducated latino peasants that did not have the smarts to make a decent living south of the border. Those that did, are happy to stay in their native homeland, or apply for legal immigration. As you say it will turn America into a third world cesspool of diversity. Dumb and Dumber.

      • mobilebay

        Don’t tell Obama, wildfirexx. He thinks it’s STEM graduates sneaking in.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Yeah, must be nice to fob off your poorest, most uneducated, fastest breeding, lowest rung of society onto your neighbors and then scream “racist!” if they object.

        Maybe we should push our black criminal and welfare population into Mexico and Guatemala and see how they like it.

        • SentryattheGate

          Yeah, Castro dumped his trash (criminals and psychotics) into south Florida, which became the poorest and most violent US city! I’d love to see us dump our’s into Mexico—and call Mexico mean and racist if they aren’t allowed to stay!

          • Max

            If we COULD dump our flotsam into Mexico we could keep out the flotsam FROM Mexico already. We don’t have the same authority to exclude people as non-white countries.

          • Bonny Alba

            So right! Since the Mexican invaders are taking the jobs of blacks more than anyone else, the blacks ought to go to Mexico and demand jobs and welfare.

        • none of your business

          That is what England did 1620 to 1914 and Italy did 1870 to 1950.
          For 270 years, about 1640 to 1914 the city of Hamburg Germany emptied its jail and the provincial prison once of year and sent all the inmates off to NYC.

        • Bonny Alba

          Here, here! You are so right. Even those who oppose the invasion often refuse to mention that the Mexican government is committing and act of extreme aggression against Americans and The United States.

      • SentryattheGate

        I think Hispanics are going to be an even bigger problem to us than blacks, which says a lot! They believe they are owed this land, they are, with blacks, the worst performing students (costing us most of our education budget) and again with blacks, have high diabetes, which costs US 2 1/2 times the health care dollars compared to non-diabetics (and diabetics are ~90% of US blindness, amputations, kidney failure, 4 times more likely to have heart attacks and strokes; ALL resulting in disability,

        • Juggernaut3000

          They have astronomical rates of cirrhosis of the liver. Don’t fret, Obamacare will take care of all of them, ahead of vets, you and yours.

          Now get back to work so you can pay for it all.

      • M&S

        Mexico is a racist ethno state.
        If you have dark skin, you have no economic future. If you have mestizo golden honey brown, you will never leave the lower middle classes. If you have what -used to be- called Latin Skin (i.e. Italian or Iberian off/olive white with dark hair) you can get a college education and an upper middle class job.
        But only the wealthiest get to ‘buy blonde straight from the source’ and, again, if you watch every Hispanic soap opera, commercial or the equivalent, that’s all they want to do.
        Because the top 10% of Mexico is an oligarchy run like the mafia (right down to presidential assassinations and murder of entire families) where only the lightest skinned need apply.
        Dark Skinned Mexican indians come to America because their homeland is racist. They scream racist _here_ because they want to make American into their own homeland. For dark skinned people to rule.
        Whites who don’t know this, have No Clue what the Casta system is about and no understanding how much we are envied as the beautiful, smart, upper end of the Color Continuum.
        Kinda like Passenger Pigeons, Dodos, Auks and the like. Nobody can imagine them running out yet for some reason everyone wants to shoot (or breed with) as many as they can.

        • Juggernaut3000

          “If you have dark skin, you have no economic future.”

          Yes, you do. You can walk across the Southern border into the US and have ALL of your needs taken care of for free.

          They come to America to feed at the American governments welfare trough paid for by White Americans, whom they consider interlopers on their land.

        • SentryattheGate

          Thank you! Very well said; something that is rarely heard.

          • Raymond Kidwell

            This really is an out of date picture of Mexico. There are many nice, expensive parts of Mexico. As well there are relatively good factory jobs mostly along the border due to NAFTA. Most immigrants are criminal gangs, or people at the bottom of society looking for better schools/welfare check/medical care or else middle class types that want to start their own business (usually with help from the sba and other racist American organizations that help non-whites with tax payer money). The idea that Mexico is a horrid cess pool that everyone is fleeing is wrong. America has gone down hill so much that there isn’t much difference between Mexico and America. Do you think a typical American city is any safer than a typical Mexican city? That’s why I think in some ways south of the border seems more attractive for a racialist. They don’t have as many programs pandering to non-whites, although this is all changing in a lot of countries. The main difference is the police are really corrupt and streets not typically paved. Other than that its the same dysfunctional third world place as the United States. If you don’t think the U.S. is full of low I.Q. imbeciles then I’d like to know where you live so I can go there too. All the places in the U.S. I found are full of morons getting disability checks, usually drug addicts, and people who can barely do a simple job right or function normally in a social environment.

          • SentryattheGate

            My point was that Latinos further drag down our already troubled nation, and our society! They are a net negative!

        • none of your business

          Very, very true according to all the Mexicans who live in California. Height is almost as important as skin tone. If you are short you are considered Indian. Another thing to remember is that Latin America had as many 19th and early 20th century European immigrants as North America did. Argentina is famous for Italians, not the Sicilians who came to the USA. Mexico is famous for Irish and Germans. When the railroads shipped in the Irish railroad workers the upper class Mexicans took one look at their height, complexions and blue eyes and paid them to marry their short, squat dark daughters. As a result, the Mexican elites lightened and lengthened themselves during the 19th century. The Germans did not intermarry for a few generations.

      • bilderbuster

        Dumb and Dumber/Dark and Darker/TomatO/TomAto.

      • none of your business

        The recent immigrants are pure Indians with average IQ of 80 from stone age villages. That is a big difference from the ones with average IQs of 87 from somewhat advanced Mexico.
        But almost all Americans right back to 1609 or earlier couldn’t make it in the old country.

    • DaveMed

      One wonders what this country would look like if we were not bogged down by these groups.

      • Sick of it

        Considering racial foreigners derailed our country when we started exploring OUTER SPACE, I’d wager we’d be a LOT more technologically advanced.

      • Max

        If you go back to 1960 you are 2/3 of the way to the land you wonder about.

        • bilderbuster

          LOL ! I just posted something similar.

      • bilderbuster

        It would look like a high tech 1960 with flying cars and robots and we could vacation on the moon.

        • DaveMed

          Doubtful, but I get your point.

          • Sick of it

            Moon colonies do not require technology superior to what we had during the space program. Terra-forming is another issue, of course.

      • ShermanTMcCoy

        When someone once opined that we could have cured cancer and colonized space, Jared quipped “We could have stayed here.”

    • Cheri Rodriguez

      The bullet that hit Reagan in March 1981 did more damage than most people will ever know.

      • bilderbuster

        Neil Bush (of Silverado S&L fame) was scheduled to dine with John Hinkley’s brother that same evening.

        • none of your business

          Who cares?

          • Bonny Alba

            I care. I think that that fact is meaningful. That in no way raises suspicions in your eyes about the Bush family? I’ve got some good moist Florida land to sell you.

    • M&S

      Fed Up,

      >>
      Of course Latinos are breeding as fast as they can.
      >>
      Misrepresentation. Before Amnesty 1, Hispanics of all types had a TFR of roughly 2.8. After Amnesty 1, it surged to 4.4. In Mexico it’s remained 2.4. In Pre-Amnesty 2 America, it is now 3.2.
      If you think of Amnesty 1 like post VJ day boomers amongst returning Service Men, Hispanics can and have done worse,
      In Mexico where ‘no money = fewer catholics’ they -do- achieve better birth control.
      Numbers courtesy of Steve Sailer and VDARE.
      As for why it matters…
      Something is happening that makes these people want to compress the timeline.
      What happens /before/ 2042 that is advantageous as a date to send Whites over the edge? Conversely, what about White Rage could happen more rapidly than they could contain it if they stick to the original 2042 condition?
      Whites are an old group. Average age is something like 43 now. There is no way for us to pull off a miracle mile condition of baby making. And no way for us to win an out and out race war without the aid of the military.
      So it has to be something else.

      • none of your business

        Brown vs Topeka came right in the middle of the baby boom. When I look at the damage done to us by the 1964 and 68 civil rights acts when we were about 88 percent of the population and before the Hispanic race was invented I really, really doubt that creating a higher percentage of Whites in the population would help us now.

    • Max

      I read several years ago that there were 30,000 per MONTH coming throught Az. alone and of course, officials who could/would stop this were prevented. That this invasion of a demonstrated hostile foreign nation is allowed to continue is astonishing. The invasion should draw news cameras from the entire country to the border states every day but -nothing because the lives, liberty and property of whites is of no consideration to the permanent ruling class in theis country and the collectivist/kosher controlled media.

  • JBP

    The results of the November election undeniably proved USA citizens do not want any amnesty for illegals and do want the USA borders secured. The liar in Chief, Democrats and some republitards are going to flip them the bird and do it anyway. Down the toilet the Ol USA goes.

    • Bossman

      “USA citizens do not want any amnesty…and do not want the USA borders secured.” Isn’t that a contradictory statement. Are you saying that American voters don’t want anything done. Do they just want the problem to grow bigger and bigger? Why?

      • wildfirexx

        I think JBP did say…they “DO” want the borders secured!

      • mobilebay

        Obama just said amnesty is NOT amnesty!

        • Sick of it

          Yeah, that didn’t make much sense did it?

          “Whether you want your illegals or not, you can keep them!” – Barack Hussein Obama

        • Max

          “That depends on what the definition of is is.”

      • 2eRep

        The other half is deporting illegal criminals luke yourself.

    • Sick of it

      It’s about time this country broke apart if this is the sort of garbage we have to look forward to…

    • TruthBeTold

      Which is why Obama waited until after the midterm elections. He knew even the middle-America Democrat base didn’t want amnesty.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      I expect the Ferguson announcement to be made any minute.

      “Riots break out as Amnesty EO is announced.”

      • bilderbuster

        I wish we were the ones rioting when Amnesty is announced 🙁

    • Max

      No, His Hopefulness already clarified this a couple of days ago. He said that “the American people elected him to use his Constitutional authority as president to make needed changes” or something to that effect. His take on the presidency is that once elected, this is lawful approval of any random idea which might pop into his nappy head or any law, statute, or policy which he disagrees with, disregarded. We have another “decider”.

  • Ograf

    Unlawful immigrants were allowed to receive welfare and then apply for amnesty. This is not the country I went into the military for. This is not the country my grand parents and their grand parents held dear to their hearts. It is becoming a 3d world country where the illegals over run the citizens. And , it has become a country where civilized behavior is no longer used in any kind of racial cases. They are teaching our children in kindergarten that it is okay for the prince to marry another prince because he doesn’t like princesses. How I hate the bastardization of America.

    • Max

      Well, when the country’s most revered citizen IS a bastard, what can you expect?

    • bilderbuster

      That reminds me of the You Tube video “Thanks Jews”.

    • Juggernaut3000

      David Irving couldn’t have said it better, tweaked by me for the American audience:

      “If the American soldiers who went up the beaches of Normandy could see what would become of their people and country, they would not have advanced another 40 yards up the beach.”

  • wildfirexx

    Why is it so hard for the government that made them, to follow the laws of the land ?
    They are sending 3000 troops to a foreign land to aid in a foreign disease ( or so they claim).
    They could have just as easily sent the 3000 troops to the American border to aid in stopping an illegal invasion from the south!

    • dmxinc

      Their goals are not our goals.

      Unfortunately, they are winning.

      • Sick of it

        It’s easy to win when people do not fight.

        • Juggernaut3000

          It’s easy to win when people cannot fight back.

          • Sick of it

            I can explain exactly how easy it is to win except for legal issues which may arise.

  • JohnEngelman

    In June of 1984, amidst the presidential campaign, three candidates for the Democrat Presidential nomination; Walter Mondale, Gary Hart and Jesse Jackson opposed Simpson-Mazzoli.

    – Rick Oltman, Universal Free Press, November 19, 2014

    Back then the Democrats had a better understanding that high rates of immigration conflict with their other goals.

    • dmxinc

      Yet some people today still support the Democrat party that is giving away our country as fast as it can.

      Remind you of anyone?

      • JohnEngelman

        Reminds me of the leaders of the Republican Party. They complain about amnesty, but they will not stop it.

        • dmxinc

          The Republicans support the Democrats? Not the most logical response.

          Do you think a McCain or Romney presidency would have us facing the situation we do tonight or would either of them encouraged Central American children to invade our country by the millions?

          They may not do much. Many time do nothing is far better than doing something.

          • Whitetrashgang

            No probably worse.

          • dmxinc

            Tell us. What would be worse that you imagine they would do?

          • Ike Eichenberg

            To your deleted post: “The same as the Democrats except you have to bathe their feet. ”

            I wish the repubs would listen more to the 30ish percent of us that don’t vote democrat.

          • M&S

            Anytime you have to vote for a representative rather than your own interests, all’s you are doing is giving yourself the right of whom you yield power too.
            And you don’t even have the resultant secondary right (implicit to the paycheck signer in even the most mean of businesses) to fire the man you hire. Not for 4-6 more years.
            Indirect or ‘Republican’ democracy is the act of teaching politicians who signs their paycheck in just enough numbers to divisively ensure that no valuable (non economic) goals are ever considered.
            True democracy OTOH, is a one man one vote, one mistake, once bitten, twice shy arrangement whereby a man can base his power, lonely as it is, on lessons learned from the last time he made the same decision.
            This man can indeed apply moral decisions to his vote because he is responsible for his own sovereign agency.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            McCain would have pushed though an amnesty when the actual Republicans did not have a majority, but enough Republicans would have been on his side to practice bipartisanship with the Dummies.

          • Juggernaut3000

            Up-voting Engelman? Have you gone over to the anti-White dark side?

    • LHathaway

      Democrats opposed NAFTA, too.

      • JohnEngelman

        I supported NAFTA at the time. Now I think it was a bad idea. The arguments presented against it by Ross Perot and others have been substantiated by subsequent events.

    • M&S

      Back then, the Democrats /had/ ‘other goals’.
      Today it’s just the one: POWER.

      • JohnEngelman

        If so, how do they differ from the Republicans? What is the goal of the GOP?

        • M&S

          Sir,
          You mistake me for a believer in our way of government.
          The qualities of the system are inherent to the nature of the people. If a people choose representative democracy it is because they honestly believe that:
          1. They are too incompetent/busy/disinterested to be bothered.
          2. That someone else can be paid to do better, in their best interests.
          The one is a hallmark, not of self serving but self sabotaging, self-denigrative, lack of will.
          The other is, at best, an metric of the banality of innocence.
          The only ones who exercise power well are those who have made a lifetime of the study of rule and selection of leaders within their own fields (not necessarily well known) whose advice they will judge but never trust.
          Such men are like doctors, they are not a dime a dozen available through a revolving door of ‘democratic process’, every four years.
          Until we start paying people what the job is worth and stop fractionalizing and compartmentalizing power in a manner that forces corruption to break down barriers to action, the kinds of people who could lead this country well will never be interested in holding our hands while the SS America slips beneath the waves.
          There are things we can do to make the system run tighter and leaner.
          Such as halving the size of King’s Seat Congress, disabling votes on anything related to one’s own state, making it illegal to accept, seek or be offered campaign financing or any form of on-or-post position compensation (including speaking tours or jobs in industry).
          We can massively reorient the nature and purpose of Federal Government towards only national, not state interests with consequent reductions in the seated Congressional seasons to focus and distill their efforts on specific votes and hold referendums by which those votes are judged for the value of the topic under debate as much as the nature of the yea/nay.
          We can give the President an independent funding line to push ideas he/she believes in. We can create forums by which voters explicitly ask for certain subjects to be debated.
          We can grant honor and obligation in equal measure during the off seasons so that the Congressmen are forced to acknowledge our representation through presence at ceremonial and technical presentations by which they are given continued exposure and job training.
          We can certainly return local vote to a majority of non-Federal interests and set conditions of education and weekly bubble test understanding of topics under debate to maintain voting privileges for those who are willing to listen in, on PBS, to ongoing debates in trade for direct rule.
          But ultimately, what sets, maintains and ruins the established nature of any system is the inherent quality of the people who run it. And the only ones who are fit to exercise such power typically already have it in no small measure.
          You can PAY them what the seat is worth to entice a better kind of representation. And you can set rules by which they cannot exceed that power while maintaining immediate recall oversight potential when they exceed it.
          But if they don’t see in themselves the power of the nation as what they want to push forward on with bigger ideals (a racial homeland, a robotic work force, the concept of wealth being universal in it’s access in trade for social conformity and automan RRM, limited immigration based on genetics and need, the government as a purchasing agency for goods and services, in bulk, fusion as the realization of free electricity for all, space as the immortality of our people, genomics to make that immortality worthwhile…) nothing will get better.
          That is what is wrong with the two party system and would be just as wrong with a ten party system. You cannot assure commonality of ‘best intentions’ without quality to ensure that intent achieves result. And the kind of people we attract to Congress are the kinds of people we no longer get to CHOOSE as candidate before we SELECT from amongst them the best there is.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    IRCA was the most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws since 1952.

    I thought that title wen to Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration “reform” act.

    In June of 1984, amidst the presidential campaign, three candidates for the Democrat Presidential nomination; Walter Mondale, Gary Hart and Jesse Jackson opposed Simpson-Mazzoli.

    If you think that Walter Mondale, the only credible candidate of the three, really opposed amnesty, I have a bridge to sell you.

    Expectation is the worst legacy of the 1986 IRCA. It fuels all movement toward our borders because of the continuous talk of another amnesty.

    I’m not sure that follows. So the author is claiming that if not for that amnesty, there would be no other calls for amnesty? I have another bridge to sell you.

    • Walter Mondale was part of a famous march on the Mexican border in 1969 with Ralph Abernathy and Cesar Chavez to oppose illegal immigration.

  • dave

    Amnesty or no amnesty, the illegals are already here. The rest is just a word game.

  • DaveMed

    I asked an Asian classmate the other day what he thought about amnesty. I expected him to sympathize with my views.

    The first thing he said: “I don’t know. I mean, I get that it’s a problem, but I feel like it’s going to affect a lot of Asians.” (By the way, it will.)

    I respect high IQ as much as everyone else, but Asians think in racial/ethnic terms just as all other non-Whites do.

    • See The Future

      They were pretty dirty in the second world war torturing and killing prisoners.
      Now we let them here to do what they want. Insane.

      • 1G25

        You mean like the culture that gave the world Unit 731 ?

        Don’t Google it on a full stomach.

    • Max

      My followup question would be along the lines of: “Would you be in favor of granting permanent residency and eventual citizenship to say, white Mormons, Baptists, or Catholics, moving to your country, costing an average of $30,000/year more than they contribute to the economy and outbreeding the natives by a factor of three? Further, you will need to provide services for them in English in your schools, hospitals, government offices etc. Oh, and they may want to bring some of their black and Hispanic freinds and relatives with them. They will need all of these same accomodations but you’ll need added police because they commit violent crimes at a rate of 4-10 times what the natives of your country do. Would you be okay with that?”

      Ask your classmate these questions.

      • DaveMed

        Well… yeah.

        But I’m not exactly ready to out myself as a WN quite yet. For now, it’s about cultural realism – with just a dash of racial realism.

        • Max

          I can dig it. I work at a school.

  • TruthBeTold

    Reagans’ ‘one-time-only’ amnesty was sold to the American people as a way to stop illegal immigration because it would require employee verification.

    Maybe it would have worked to stop (or at least slow down) illegal immigration had the government actually enforced the law and fined and arrested business owners for hiring illegals.

    But, surprise surprise, the government never enforced the single provision, employee verification, that was the heart of the promise.

  • RileyDeWiley

    In the summer of ’86 I was working in a fish camp in Alaska. The place was chock full of young people from all over the world, mostly from Europe, but also including Africans, South Americans, and Australians.

    That was the year the amnesty went through. The next year I passed through the same camp, and it was 100% Filipinos and Mexicans with fake IDs.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Obama is making the US a sanctuary for 3rd world gangs and criminals: for the right of illegal foreign invaders to rob, rape, assault murder, lower our standard of living and replace us Whites in the country our forefathers built, and do it all with our own tax money.

    • Sick of it

      But, but, but they’ll deport the criminals after they commit horrific violent crimes! Oh wait, now they won’t even do that little.

    • Mary

      I chose one case at random and started reading about the Ceran family, who lost a mom and two children at the hands of an illegal drunk driver, Carlos Prieto. The Mormon father, Gary Ceran, almost immediately forgave this criminal and then tearfully proclaimed in court that his desire was that the man not do any prison time.His apology would be enough, along with a promise to never drive drunk again.Good grief, what is WRONG with these people? The simple-minded Amy Biehl-esque outrageous naivete. I simply cannot wrap my mind around this. It’s not touching, it’s disgusting.

  • That’s something I’ve been thinking about on and off for awhile, from a philosophical angle.

    What is patriotism? What does it even mean anymore?

    To me, the main problem with “patriotism” as it is defined today is that since we’re a proposition nation and not an ethnostate, the classic quintessential definition of patriotism, that being blood and soil nationalism, is off limits. Because, fascist Nazi six million Jews.

    That begs the next question:

    How can one show patriotism toward a proposition nation?

    As far as I can tell, from studying the words and actions of people who laud themselves for their patriotism and in turn bash and trash other people for their supposed lack of patriotism, the word means one of these things:

    1. Adherence to some variant of libertarian and/or egalitarian ideology

    2. Drawing a paycheck from the Pentagon for a long enough period in one’s life to warrant an honorable discharge from such a job

    3. Sufficient political agreement and support of the present day military-foreign policy which is in turn a function of whatever cabal of monied special interests can buy enough elected politicians

    • Sick of it

      Modern “patriotism” is crass jingoism. I care nothing for it. Neither would Thomas Jefferson.

      • In spite of a lot of our kind of people giving Jefferson flack for probably the most misunderstood five words in the history of human civilization, his first draft of the document which included those words did use the phrase “of common blood.”

        • Sick of it

          We can always point to the original Naturalization Acts to show how the Founders felt about third world types.

        • 1G25

          Damn right. This country was founded and built by Anglo-Saxons adhering to Judeo-Christian mores.

          By 2045 or so, according to computer models, that group will be a minority in this country.

          Glad I won’t live to see it, but the sickness is already manifesting itself.

          • Sick of it

            Judeo-Christian is a recent term. This country was founded by Christians.

          • 1G25

            The Founding Fathers were unaware of the Ten Commandments ?

          • none of your business

            Hammurabi who was not Jewish was the first to write them down. He did not have to go up on a mountain and talk to God. God came to him in a dream. Judeo-Christian is a term invented by the feminazis in the mid 1960’s as a derogatory term for western civilization and White men.

          • 1G25

            Don’t much care where the term came from, but do appreciate input.

            Founders and other early Americans probably studied Hebrew, the language of the Jewish Bible at least as much as Greek, the language of the New. Yale, founded in 1701, adopted a Hebrew insignia, and Hebrew was compulsory at Harvard until 1787.

            The words on the Liberty Bell, “Proclaim Liberty throughout all the land . . . ,” are from the Torah.

          • Sick of it

            Not only that, but they were aware that St. Paul told us that we are the true Jews, as we are Jews in spirit, not merely in the flesh. We believe in the only begotten Son of God, rather than blaspheming His name and doing everything possible to wipe his faithful off of the face of the Earth.

      • Max

        Modern “patriotism” is waving a plastic flag made in China at the recommended times and “supporting” our diversity troops as they fight for the interests of Israel and international corporations.

      • none of your business

        Modern patriotism is just a bunch of guys who served in wars from 1941 to the latest Israeli wars against its neighbors and are proud of it. Conservatives are also patriots who are total idiots who cannot see that the country they are so proud to be a citizen of hates them and wants to exterminate them.

        • Sick of it

          Again, to be a conservative means that you want to conserve something. Not radically transform it.

    • MannyR

      Maybe you should explore the other side of the argument . Why was it the Germans felt it necessary to treat a group of people like that? What was motivating them and what were they afraid of? As much as many posters here will try and say I’m wrong, what you’ll find is that they were fighting for their survival against an enemy that had no qualms about using economic warfare to literally starve Germans to death and sow Communist revolution in their streets. Many of the things that radicalized the Germans in the 1930s are going on right now in our country with the same group behind it.

      • Juggernaut3000

        Thread winner.

        Germany was almost taken over by the same forces that instigated a revolution in Russia and then took over. Hitler was well aware of what was happening to the Russian people by their non-Russian overlords: mass murders, starvation, food used as a weapon, and worse. He did not want the same fate for Germany.

        He fought the Bolsheviks and would have defeated them if the U.S. hadn’t armed, supplied and fed the Red Army while hammering Germany from the south and west. What the Red Army did in Germany after the war to the German people was unspeakable.

        We Americans, supported “Uncle Joe” and his bloodthirsty, murderous Soviet allowing them, and “us” to “win.” The result of which is what we have now: Cultural Marxism, flooding of white homelands by 3rd world savages, whites marginalized and an ongoing agenda of genocide being conducted against the white race in Europe, America, Australia, South Africa, NZ and every other White homeland.

        Gen. Patton realized what “we” Americans had done and knew we fought the wrong enemy. He threatened to tell everything he knew when he returned from Europe but was killed to keep him silent.

        Is this why we fought WW II? So our White homelands could be turned over to Mexicans, Guatemalans, Somalis, Sudanese, Congolese and other non-Whites?

        • MannyR

          Have you read After the Reich? If not please check it out. Any question of the moral superiority of the Allied powers is killed dead in that book. The Russian soldiers treated the German women and children during the post war occupation worse than trash. Rape, infanticide, dismemberment, you name it they did it mass and the US stood by and simply did nothing.

          • saxonsun

            That’s an old story–the barbarity of the Russian soldiers in Germany.

          • Juggernaut3000

            Read this and then report back.

            https //cienciologia wordpress com/category/hellstorm/

          • Fed Up

            The US tooik part in the atrocities — by allowing them to happen. Eisenhower also allowed 1.2 million German POWs to die — of starvation and exposure during the winter of 1945-46. I did read the book — I was totally appalled.

          • Juggernaut3000

            Hellstorm is also an excellent book. I recommend reading the entire book cover to cover, there are many first-hand accounts of the bombing of Dresden and the over-running of Germany by Asiatic Russian barbarians. Be prepared to be sickened and angered.

            Blogger Chechar has excerpted each chapter here:

            https //cienciologia wordpress com/category/hellstorm/

            What the history books won’t tell you.

        • none of your business

          Excellent post except for the fact that cultural Marxism and the intended conquest of America by Jews began around 1880. The party was about 90 percent Jewish and Yiddish was the common language of the party un till about 1930. At that time Stalin realized that Americans viewed communism as some sort of foreign ethnic group that would never be accepted by the American working class.
          So he made a few decrees: a strict 40 percent Jewish quota for the CPUSA, a non Jew with an obviously non Jewish name as President and move the headquarters from Jewish New York to Chicago where CPUSA headquarters is still located I believe.
          We fought WW2 so Eastern and Central Europe and China could be turned over to communism and Palestine to the Zionists..

      • none of your business

        I know. Good for you for coming right out ant stating it.

        Are you Manny from Seattle? You will be happy to know that the curry socialist was arrested yesterday at SEA TAC for protesting about the minimum wage. A cop told her to stay on the sidewalk as their demo permit required. She arrogantly got into the street to block traffic and was arrested, only 5 hours in a holding cell.
        She won’t be re elected. Slogan for those opposing her is.
        If you care about the poor so much go back to India and take care of the Dalits.

        • MannyR

          Yes I heard she had been arrested. She was also on tv last night applauding Black prez’s 2016 election amnesty push. Truthfully I don’t really follow a lot of what goes on in Seattle any more after I moved to the Eastside due to:
          A. I don’t care what happens to that city
          B. Like the parent of a drug addicted child at some point you just have to accept what they are. Seattle I full of hardcore Marxicrat anti white liberals that make 6 figures. There’s no debating or enlightening any of them.

          I do have to travel into the city ever now and then but I do my business and book it back to my area.

    • none of your business

      I hate this country and have hated it ever since I discovered what affirmative action meant to me and mine.

  • dave

    I agree, but who going to deport them? Both parties want them as future voters and cheap labor. This didn’t happen overnight, its been going on for decades. I believe it started under Reagan in 1986.

    • See The Future

      Bounty hunters

      • 1G25

        As a Viet Cong officer told his men, about Europeans:

        Kill them. And keep on killing them, until they stop coming here.

        It worked.
        .

  • About Emperor Barack I’s official imperial decree of a few minutes ago.

    The lies, distortions and doublespeak are bad enough.

    But beyond that, here are the two most offensive elements of the Great Hissy Fit:

    1. His political narcissism. He basically said: “You didn’t do what I want, so I’m going to do what I want. And I wouldn’t have to do what I want if only you would do what I want.”

    Heads he wins, tails we lose.

    2. His rootless economism. He’s far from the only person who has ever peddled this notion, but he is doing it nonetheless: That the United States of America is entirely and exclusively about a big economy both in the macro and micro sense.

    • See The Future

      stupid white men and women

    • LeonNJ

      Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.

  • Kyle

    Immigration increases aggregate demand. Great for the stock market, not so much for blue collar workers

  • 2eRep

    I see that if you criticize boss clown or utter the word knee-grow on AR your comment is deleted. So much for defending whites, AR is starting to look like controlled opposition.

  • Ringo Lennon

    Democrats can’t win elections with white people so they have to import nonwhites. They’re doing a bang up job.

  • From Obongo’s speech, just posted a few minutes ago:

    President Obama on immigration reform actions: ‘Are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of ripping children from their parents’ arms? Or are we a nation that values families, and works to keep them together?’

    What he did is called framing, where the framing tugs at heartstrings while ignoring logic and the devastating effects on the economy, culture, government budgets, and crime.

    You see how Obama makes us look heartless? This is a HUGE weakness in White Nationalism/Race Realism. By distortion, he can make us look cruel.

    We have to flip the script on Obama and argue that his actions are selfish and that he’s the cruel, heartless one. I think I know how to flip the script on the tyrant and so I’m going to write something for my website tonight to see if it works. Otherwise, I can picture white women, gays, college students, etc. crying tears of joy that finally the cruelty of families torn apart has been stopped by the savior. Not Jesus, the other savior, BHO.

    • You see how Obama makes us look heartless? This is a HUGE weakness in White Nationalism/Race Realism. By distortion, he can make us look cruel.

      Sheila Jesse Jackson Lee said a few days ago that it would be “selfish” of us not to grant deferred action and work permits to illegal aliens.

      Satan’s greatest trick was convincing the world that he didn’t exist. Likewise, the selfish have done a great job of passing off their selfishness as some sort of compassionate humanitarian virtue while passing off the patriotic virtue of normal people as cold cruel hearted selfish bastardy. That’s the only selfishness afoot here. Under no circumstances should you notice the fact that there are lots of people and institutions that are going to get even more rich than they already are from this, because they’re compassionate.

      • Max

        He is the “Fraudulent Good Samaritan” who sees a “victim” on the road, forces passersby to pay for the putative victim while rendering no aid whatever himself. He then splits the money with the victim and they both go off and have a good laugh at the suckers who fell for it. Next day he pulls the same scam on another road and so on, eventually retiring fabulously wealthy with a reputation in the local town of a great humanitarian

    • Evette Coutier

      We need to reframe it correctly. Obama is taking away jobs from our families, our children, so he can buy votes and provide multi-national corporations slave wage labor.

  • Olorin

    Read this again, AmRenners:

    “In June of 1984, amidst the presidential campaign, three candidates for the Democrat Presidential nomination; Walter Mondale, Gary Hart and Jesse Jackson opposed Simpson-Mazzoli.”

    This was the reason that I supported Democrats in 1984.

    And it wasn’t easy, because I thought these three guys were clowns.

    This article just demonstrates that it is big business/globalizers/employers who drive immigration policy. Not we voters who end up paying the price.

    • Here’s the thing.

      Their opposition may have had more to do with their interpretation of Simpson-Mazzoli.

      Did they consider it to be enforcement or amnesty? Like I said above, Walter Mondale was part of a famous 1969 anti illegal immigration march on the Mexican border along with Ralph Abernathy and Cesar Chavez, so Mondale might have seen it for what it turned out to be, that being amnesty. But politicians can change a lot in 15 years.

      It’s entirely possible that all three of them interpreted S-M as enforcement and opposed it for that reason.

  • Yves Vannes

    The Southwest is gone.

    • See The Future

      It may yet end up in the ocean.

  • QuinnTheEskimo9

    The Employer Sanctions program was supposed to be the key element that would remove the incentive for illegal immigration by eliminating the job opportunities which was, and is, the number one reason that illegal aliens come to our country.

    Disagree.

    They do not come for jobs. They come to the US to live off of welfare paid for by the White population.

  • FinnShane

    Didn’t Reagan sign the IRCA under the stipulation that the Government would secure the borders and complete that damned border fence?

    • Max

      So?

      • 1G25

        You really don’t get it, do you.

        • Max

          Yeah, I “get it” ; another failed promise from our millionaire collectivist rulers.
          So?

  • DaveMed

    Honestly… I’m just visiting random pages and linking to Amren(dot)com.

    Can’t think of anything better to do tonight.

  • M&S

    Only in our own lands Bonny.

    America as it is now known is not a white homeland but a ‘Proposition State’ which effectively means any non-white can propose that a history of white achievements in building this land no longer matter because it’s a completed effort and new management can compete for the right to collect from the benefits there-in.

    At which point you have only ONE counter argument: Pull. Out.

    If America is a white homeland then the removal of white agency as the dominant interest can kill the lie that is proposition status with the crashing poverty that stupidity and greed bring together.

    But it must not be a ‘strike’-

    We are on strike, we, the men of the mind.

    “We are on strike against self-immolation. We are on strike against the creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded duties. We are on strike against the dogma that the pursuit of one’s happiness is evil. We are on strike against the doctrine that life is guilt.”

    _Atlas Shrugged_.

    For only a woman would think of denial of service the same way she would think of denial of sex. A ‘strike’ implies a common resource base from which to continue or come back to surviving work. Just like layoffs imply unemployment insurance for the helpless or useless.

    Bring those two conflicting elements together, without boundaries, in numbers the like of tens of millions, and there will be no such preserve of property as decency, anymore than a woman can withhold sex when thrown into a prison yard while the guards are ‘on strike’.

    We must withdraw. We must sever the ties as ability of government to demand taxes and force what amounts to quartering of enemy troops among us in the form of masses of welfare eating illegal aliens.

    It never fails to amaze me that, seeing this for what it is, whites will demand ‘change’ in a musical chair seating of cloned Congressmen whose loyalty they _do not own_. But will not demand /redress/ of their grievances in a Constitutional Convention for which ALL Congressmen are fired.

    And white interests as majority population, can once again be stated as the dominant agenda.

    If ye be cowards at that level, then the only remaining alternative is Secession and What Chance has this of success?

    Whites are like the symbol of chaos:

    http://th03[dot]deviantart[dot]net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/026/b/d/chaos_symbol_by_xlegendariumx-d5sfxc5%5Bdot%5Djpg

    Eight Arrows head off to all compass points and quarters.

    Not only will they refuse to acknowledge that their divergent axes of flight derive from the same point-of-origin problem. But they won’t even recognize that as they disperse to the far horizons, they each become lesser, more dispersed and less able to determine their own existence, amidst The Horde of single minded racist encroachment on all that they are.

    By coloreds.
    It is silly and it is stupid. Rather than find your center amongst your own, you flee yourselves to where the browns are sure to pursue.
    Or already are.
    You see (Mayfield, Detroit, New Orleans, Kibera, Mexico City, Dharavi) what they bring from where they have been to what you seek to build and sew and you call it what it is: ruin.
    Yet still you will not band together and say “HERE AND NOT ONE MORE STEP BACK!” as the point where you exclude them from your world rather than running from theirs.

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    It’s fair to say that the current dilapidated state of California is due to the 1986 amnesty. In 1987 I was off at college, but my mother (who was a paraplegic from one of the last cases of polio before the vaccine) lived in public housing that was roughly 50/50 black/white. After 1987, it jumped to about 75% Mexican, and the managers themselves barely spoke English. When I finally got her out of there after college, she was the last white person living there. Riverside went from 82% white in 1970 to 34% in 2010.

    • Tim

      I rented a high rise apartment from a listing agent once who was in full blown leg braces. She couldn`t have been more than two years older than me. Walking out, I realized she had been 8 months on one side of the vaccine and me the other. I had never ever given a thought to it before that….

    • Ringo Lennon

      Very informative info.

  • Juggernaut3000

    I know of many Whites now, more and more who refuse to fly an American flag or pledge allegiance to the flag of this anti-white regime.

    • I don’t even own a regular 50 star USA/BRA flag.

      I own the Betsy Ross, and a 51-star USA flag, the 51st star being a symbol advocating statehood for southern Illinois.

    • Max

      I use the words: “…and the republic for which it once stood” and started teaching my kids the same.

  • fgbrunner3

    Transform America: Impeach Obama.

  • Batterytrain

    East Asians don’t have a higher average IQ, what they do is they selectively slant and bias the IQ test scores so that only select schools are represented among their testing results which slants the scores in their favor. They also practice tests like the IQ tests before they take the main IQ tests unlike the subjects in Europe and other Western countries. So Westerners are getting high IQ scores without having the aforementioned advantages in them which is impressive.
    Asians lie and cheat a lot and have no moral aspirations.

    The vast majority of Asians are peasants who are good at blending in, lying or conning the system; they are social parasites who take over by their numbers, ethnic nepotism, deception, by covert and silent means that don’t put attention on them. There is no way they have a higher average IQ.

  • scutum

    Ex Senator Allen Simpson was a slimy two faced SOB who was in the pocket of the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable. We are all fortunate that he has retired because he would be at the forefront of the compromise and pass comprehensive immigration reform chorus.

  • Ringo Lennon

    I’m wondering if most of the celebrity talk shows are now based out of New York City because of Mexican invasion of Los Angeles. If I was a Hollywood big wig I would counter with never giving jobs to anyone living outside of Hollywood

  • Lee_CPA

    In 1986, illegal immigration was considered a “Southwest” and “Southern California” thing. Most people in the remainder of the States didn’t give it too much thought.
    .
    Now we get it. Go to an emergency room. Hispanics lined up with 5-6 kids in tow wanting free health care. Schools having to hire ESOL teachers to teach the offspring of the illegals. Neighborhoods turned into barrios. Crime rates escalating. Diseases walking across the border with the illegals.
    .
    It just goes on and on.

    • Ringo Lennon

      Your from Chicago , right?

  • 1G25

    Mexico, geographically, is a beautiful country. But it is a rotten country.

    Because it’s full of Mexicans. The cultures on either side of the Rio Grande are as different as chalk and cheese.
    .

  • Whitesneedtobebrave

    Odumba just wants to make this country a multicultural wonderland and then a turd world cesspool like Kenya. His long nosed backers are playing the strings and he is dancing to their tunes.

  • Ringo Lennon

    I don’t recognize any Hispanic that came here after 1983 or their subsequent children.

  • none of your business

    Not American Jews; it was the French government who paid for the entire thing including our first gold supplies. Of course the French government borrowed most of the money from the Grand Dukes of Hesse and his Frankfurt bankers including the Rothschilds among many others.
    Franklin, Silas Deane and others spent 12 years in France lobbying and conniving for the French to fund, arm, guarantee and send soldiers to help our revolution.

  • Unstainable immigration is turning America into the 3rd world.

    Northwestfront(dot)org

  • wildfirexx

    Theoretically speaking, you are correct…
    but you are talking about 2 different locations and time frames.
    For example, when boat loads of migrants came to America from Ireland in the mid to late 1800’s (who’s descendants make up close to 12-15% of the current american population today), there was no educated middle class to speak of in Ireland. Just the rich or the poor.
    And many were facing starvation.
    But the majority of the migrants coming today are mostly from Mexico and Central America, where most have a decent (although not comparable to American standards) education system, which allows those with potential… the opportunity to advance in their own native homeland.
    And now the scientists also know that genetics plays an even bigger role in creativity and intelligence, and acquiring a higher IQ!

  • wildfirexx

    Theoretically speaking, you are correct…
    but you are talking about 2 different locations and time frames.
    For example, when boat loads of migrants came to America from Ireland in the mid to late 1800’s (who’s descendants make up close to 12-15% of the current american population today), there was no educated middle class to speak of in Ireland. Just the rich or the poor.
    And many were facing starvation.
    But the majority of the migrants coming today are mostly from Mexico and Central America, where most have a decent (although not comparable to American standards) education system, which allows those with potential… the opportunity to advance in their own native homeland.
    And now the scientists also know that genetics plays an even bigger role in creativity and intelligence, and acquiring a higher IQ!

  • wildfirexx

    Theoretically speaking, you are correct…
    but you are talking about 2 different locations and time frames.
    For example, when boat loads of migrants came to America from Ireland in the mid to late 1800’s (who’s descendants make up close to 12-15% of the current american population today), there was no educated middle class to speak of in Ireland. Just the rich or the poor.
    And many were facing starvation.
    But the majority of the migrants coming today are mostly from Mexico and Central America, where most have a decent (although not comparable to American standards) education system, which allows those with potential… the opportunity to advance in their own native homeland.
    And now the scientists also know that genetics plays an even bigger role in creativity and intelligence, and acquiring a higher IQ!

  • wildfirexx

    Theoretically speaking, you are correct…
    but you are talking about 2 different locations and time frames.
    For example, when boat loads of migrants came to America from Ireland in the mid to late 1800’s (who’s descendants make up close to 12-15% of the current american population today), there was no educated middle class to speak of in Ireland. Just the rich or the poor.
    And many were facing starvation.
    But the majority of the migrants coming today are mostly from Mexico and Central America, where most have a decent (although not comparable to American standards) education system, which allows those with potential… the opportunity to advance in their own native homeland.
    And now the scientists also know that genetics plays an even bigger role in creativity and intelligence, and acquiring a higher IQ!