Washington and Lee University to Remove Confederate Flags Following Protests

T. Rees Shapiro, Washington Post, July 8, 2014

Washington and Lee University expressed regret Tuesday for the school’s past ownership of slaves and promised to remove Confederate flags from the main chamber of its Lee Chapel after a group of black students protested that the historic Virginia school was unwelcoming to minorities.

President Kenneth P. Ruscio’s announcement was a surprising move for the small, private liberal arts college in Lexington, which has long celebrated its Southern heritage. Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee served as the university’s president after the Civil War, his crypt is beneath the chapel, and the school has gingerly addressed its ties to the Confederacy and its having profited from the possession and sale of slaves.

The Confederate banners–battle flags that Lee’s army flew as it fought Union forces–have adorned the campus chapel that bears Lee’s name since 1930, and university officials said they were a nod to history and not a message intended to offend anyone. Others, however, see the flags as hate symbols representative of slavery, racism and grievous times in the nation’s history.

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Founded in 1749, the school that became Washington and Lee was endowed in 1796 with a $20,000 gift from George Washington, the nation’s first president. The school was subsequently named Washington College in his honor. After Lee died in 1870, it became Washington and Lee University. The chapel was also renamed to honor Lee.

Ruscio’s announcement came just a few months after a group of black law students, known as “the committee,” wrote to the Board of Trustees urging changes that they said would make minority students feel more welcome. Black students make up about 3.5 percent of the school’s enrollment of 2,277.

The students implored administrators to meet a list of “demands,” including a formal apology for the school’s ties to slavery. They also asked that the school remove Confederate flags from the chapel–a national historic landmark since 1961–near a memorial to Lee, where students gather for school events.

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In his letter, Ruscio publicly apologized for the school’s ownership of about 80 slaves during the period from 1826 to 1852, some of whom were forced to build a dormitory on campus.

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{snip} Black students said they felt support from some white students, but committee members also received anonymous hate mail from self-described “rebels” who railed against their campaign.

In interviews, black students said they felt uncomfortable attending school events in the chapel, where the Confederate flags were clearly visible. “Students don’t have to sit in the same room as the flags anymore,” said law student Brandon Hicks, a member of the committee. “I feel like we made a tremendous difference.”

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But the decision to remove the flags from Lee Chapel also drew expressions of outrage.

“It’s a disgrace for them to besmirch Lee’s military honor,” said Brandon Dorsey, commander of a unit of the Sons of Confederate Veterans based in Lexington. “As far as I’m concerned, they should go ahead and remove his name from the school. I don’t think they’re worthy of his name.”

Dorsey said the university was, “in effect, desecrating Lee’s grave,” and he predicted a backlash. “I don’t think we’ll let it stand. It’s going to be long, nasty fight.”

Ruscio’s announcement said the flags in the chapel were reproductions hung in 1995, replacing original Confederate battle flags that had been displayed near the Lee memorial. As part of a new agreement with Richmond’s American Civil War Museum, the school’s Lee Chapel museum will display the restored original flags on a rotating basis. The museum, beneath the main chapel, is open to the public and is reached through a separate entrance.

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The students on the committee had also demanded that the university denounce Lee’s “participation in slavery.” Ruscio defended Lee’s role as an educator at the school and said he “will not apologize for the crucial role [Lee] played in shaping this institution.” But Ruscio declared that “Lee was an imperfect individual living in imperfect times.”

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  • DooDoo Brownstein

    Well the American flag is considered a symbol of oppression and hatred by many, too. Maybe we should remove that as well and replace it with rainbow phag flags…..

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      It’s inevitable that the American flag will become a symbol of genocide, oppression, and everything else the anti-white elite and darkie stand for.

      • So CAL Snowman

        It already is in California.

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    • John R

      If you had said that a few years ago I would have laughed and said you are obviously speaking tongue in cheek. But now the way things are going in our society, I realize that anything is possible. One “demand” just leads to another.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        The Stars and Stripes is the flag of Leftist Multicult tyranny. The Confederate flag represents liberty and freedom for White Americans.

        • Michigan Patriot

          Amen !

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Yes it is. The Confederate flag is my flag. The Confederate flag symbolizes freedom for White Americans. This country boy will survive! The Confederate flag is my flag.

    • meanqueen

      For years now, lefties have disparaged the American flag. I know, because I used to be married to a leftie (thank God for divorce). At first, it was just “uncool” to be patriotic and display a flag – now it’s absolutely forbidden and you will be verbally attacked. It’s outrageous.

    • Erasmus

      It’s time for students who disagree with this decision to begin display The Stars and Bars on their own. They must not be silent. It is time for them to kick the PC gauleiters in the teeth.

  • The heckler’s veto? No, the negro’s veto.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    I find great humor in the idea that black people willingly applied to and attended a university named after Robert E. Lee, and then acted shocked and appalled to find out that there were confederate flags on campus. It would be akin to me choosing to attend Notre Dame, acting astonished that they had crosses on campus, and then demanding that all crosses be removed. The only difference is that my request would be laughed at, while the black guy’s request is being honored.

    • Methinks they didn’t enroll to get an education.

    • Jack Burton

      Did you expect Negroes to be grateful and respectful? The more educated and the more power Negroes attain the more fervent they become to harm Whites and White society.

      • John R

        Give ’em an inch and they’ll take a yard!

        • TheHand

          I’d like to give ’em a foot.

    • Dave4088

      Well, most blacks are really that stupid. You could tell black high schoolers that Robert E. Lee wrote the emancipation proclamation and freed the slaves and the majority of them would believe it.

      • cherrie greenbaum123

        Most of them would believe Lee tweeted the emancipation proclamation directly before he signed the Declaration of Independence.

      • John R

        Yes, stupid in one sense. But they sure know how to make noise and get attention. I’ll give them that.

        • Mike Lane

          Only because they learned from that small minority whom we must never speak of.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I wouldn’t say learned so much as enabled. Blacks don’t need any guidance to engage in sociopathy. Lefties, Jewish and Gentile, enabled Blacks by telling them they no longer needed to know their place. Southerners had acted as authoritative parents with Negroes. Northerners dashed into the South, with minds clouded by emotion and naïveté, and trampled all over time tested wisdom. Most Northerners were not part of this, and were on the same page with White Southerners. You are right, though, that Jewish Americans were leading the charge as far as aforesaid irrational, emotional charge into the South. Had rational thought and cool heads prevailed, Jewish Americans in the Civil Rights era would have had nothing but feelings of gratitude for the Anglo-Celtic Whites of the South. Without their presence in the American Military, as well as the valiant fight of Great Britain against Hitler, there is no way Hitler would have been defeated.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Shame and Introversion are elusive traits indeed amongst the Negroes.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        That would be great if we could teach them that! Tell them that Robert E. Lee and Nathan Bedford Forrest freed the slaves. Abe Lincoln was a hardcore White racial realist and segregationist who was appropriately repulsed by the Negro race. He was also a Southern boy, being that he was born in Kentucky. Good old Abe’s purpose was to save the Union and get the Negroes back to Africa where they belong. If only Abe and good old Jefferson Davis could have agreed to send the Negroes back, and agreed that no war would occur. Sweet dreams of revisionist history.

        • Long Live Dixie

          OhioKlezmer, your posts are increasingly departing from reality. Lincoln armed the blacks, trained them as soldiers, and allowed them to hold power over whites. Those are not the actions of a ‘hardcore white racial realist’. In Lincoln’s last speech (Google it) he said he is open to allowing black veterans and intelligent’ blacks vote.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Obviously, he was bowing to pressure with these things, and was going to allow himself to become a puppet for the New England abolitionists if this is indeed true. He was going to pull a classic politician move, with his personal beliefs and policies endorsed clashing. Reminds of Harry Truman, a good Southern boy from Missouri who preferred not to associate with Negroes in his personal life, allowing the integration of the military.

          • Long Live Dixie

            I guess bowing to pressure would make him a little less of a ‘hardcore white racial realist’, wouldn’t you say?

            Actually, I don’t even see evidence that he did these things against his will. He was just a slimy politician who did whatever he thought would advance his political opportunities.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            You are right that bowing to pressure made him a slimy politician. And Southern Politicians are above bowing to pressure?? George Corley Wallace is the American Presidential Candidate of the past that I revere most, but even he buckled under pressure. I don’t call asking for forgiveness for past “sins” standing firm. Facts are facts. The Liberia Project occurred thanks to Abe Lincoln. Lincoln’s plan was to send all of the Negroes back. You want to think Lincoln was a race traitor because he was a Northerner. Which Southern Politicians supported Lincoln’s Liberia project??

          • Long Live Dixie

            Wallace is not relevant. We’re talking about whether Lincoln was a ‘hardcore white racial realist’. You made the claim, I refuted it, then you changed the subject to Wallace. How do you explain Lincoln’s ‘hardcore racialism’ and his support for armed and trained blacks who are given the vote and who have gotten a taste of dominating whites?

            Show me a single credible historian who can cite primary sources that show Lincoln was going to send all the black back. Good luck with that wild goose chase.

            Lincoln’s Liberia project? Liberia was primarily the creation of Southerners two generations earlier. Lincoln’s interest in the project was faint and sporadic. Nothing firm ever materialised from it.

    • Patriot’s Notebook

      At the rate we are going; even private, religiously affiliated colleges and universities will be forced to abandon core symbols and principles.

      It seems that fewer and fewer are willing to ‘take a stand’ against this forced tyranny.

    • John R

      Yes, but you are not a Negro. Sorry, sir, but the fact that you are surprised (if I interpreted your comment correctly) shows you don’t fully understand the Negro mind. They do not think like us. Every concession leads to more, “gibs me dat”; you cannot apply White Euro-American reasoning to them. They are endlessly entitled. They just take and demand. There is no sense of reciprocal morality with them. Yes, I do appreciate how difficult it is for you, as a White man, to comprehend people believing like that. It took me quite a long time to grasp the fact that they are a sub-species of Homo sapiens that you cannot reason with. Good day to you, sir.

      • TruthBeTold

        Exactly.

        They are not us and they cannot think like us.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Excellent window, John, into the workings of the Negro mind. Southerners knew long before the Industrial Revolution that it is an exercise in futility to attempt to reason with a Negro. Northerners who had experienced Negro behavior knew this as well. Lack of exposure has been the fuel source for White munificence. Exposure results in racial realism.

        • Long Live Dixie

          Lack of exposure has been the fuel source for White munificence. Exposure results in racial realism.

          This is a myth. The whites of the whitest areas of the South (e.g., Kentucky and West Virginia) are far more racialist than the whites of the most multi-racial areas of Yankeedom (e.g., New York City and Chicago).

          Additionally, the whites from the North who move to the South and live around blacks do not become any less liberal than they were when they lived in the North. Every area of the South that is settled in large numbers by Northern migrants is predictably liberal.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I can only speak about areas with which I am familiar. West Virginia is strong racial realist territory, as is Western Maryland. Cumberland fits your description well. Black/non-White population is still very small, and racial realist sentiment is far stronger that downstate Maryland, which is a Multicult cesspool. Pennsylvania, which I’m sure you would be quick to derisively label as part of “Yankeedom”, is far more racial realist than downstate Maryland, even as far as Pitt/Philly. Central/Northern PA is every bit as racial realist as Cumberland, or West Virginia. Southeast Ohio is also racial realist territory with few Negroes. Cleveland or Akron fit your description of Chicagoland.

    • TruthBeTold

      The mind of a black man is a mystery. Like …Space.

    • BernieGoetzFan

      In all seriousness, can the renaming of the school – at least the “Lee” part – be far behind? After all, if a Confederate flag is bad, then naming the school after the Confederacy’s most famous general is even worse.
      Given that a handful of blacks (3% of the student pop.), can EASILY punk the entire school, why would they stop at a flag? Who will be there to defend Lee? Certainly not Ruscio or any of the alumni, who were silent, meek and scared on this issue.
      Perhaps it is better to rename the school. What would Lee think if he came back from the dead and saw the whites who run his school meekly following any order given by a few black teenagers (who are likely there on a full ride).

    • Michigan Patriot

      Unfortunately that is not true ,Muslims ( all colors ) demanded a long time ago that the Jesuit created Georgetown University take down the crosses & crucifixes from classrooms,etc. and the commie priests quickly obeyed their orders.

    • dukem1

      Notre Dame-wise, you are unfourtunatly closer than you may think.

  • Publius Pompilius Quitus

    Since I’m a northerner, I have no particular attachment or aversion to the confederate flag. Actually, I see it as a pillar of history of the historic American nation in the South. Southerners have every right and reason to fly it. This is only another instance of historic Americans being a hostage to the cultural left.

    • John R

      Thank you. You don’t have to be a Southerner to be appalled at this. Lee was not disrespected because he was a Southerner. He was disrespected because he was a symbol of White racial pride. When the left does this to Southern Whites, it will just as soon do this to Northern Whites as well.

      • Long Live Dixie

        Lee was not disrespected because he was a Southerner.

        There has been a systematic effort for years to dismantle every aspect of Southern heritage. This has everything to do with Lee being a Southerner.

        When the left does this to Southern Whites, it will just as soon do this to Northern Whites as well.

        Really? I’m not seeing that. When have the people who whine for the removal of Southern symbolism done the same about Northern symbolism?

        • Sloppo

          They’re working to dismantle southern heritage because it was a white culture. Efforts to “dismantle white privilege” dismantle the right of gentile-white societies of any kind to exist are very active in the northern states.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Yes, I know there are efforts underway to dismantle whiteness in the North (with Northerners themselves leading the charge).

            But where are the efforts to attack Northern heritage? When have the Leftists demanded statues to Union soldiers be removed, or that the Ohio flag (which is based on a Union cavalry flag) be redesigned, or that Grant’s tomb be defaced? When are Northern accents on TV ever associated with stupidity and immorality?

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Certain Northern accents receive the same disrespect from the media. The New Jersey Italian accent is always matched up to someone stumbly. Even the Chicago Italian sound is paired up to unsavory characters quite often. You don’t see Ebonics mocked in this fashion. The attack is on Whites, and we are all in this struggle together.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Certain Northern accents receive the same disrespect from the media.

            All right, so maybe some obscure Northern accent occasionally gets ridiculed on TV. So what? All that means is that one type of Northern accent gets favoured over another while – with very few exceptions – Southern accents are a sign of stupidity or immorality in a character.

            The attack is on Whites . . .

            I ask again, where are the Leftists who demand the removal of every aspect of Northern heritage?

            . . . and we are all in this struggle together.

            It depends on what your struggle is. Mine is for Southern freedom. Yankees are the South’s greatest foes.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            All kinds of Northern accents are ridiculed on TV. The movie Fargo mocked the German/Scandinavian culture of the Upper Midwest just as bad as Honey Boo Boo derides White Southerners, and Breaking Amish mocks the Amish horribly. Jersey Shore makes Italian Americans look horrible, and reinforces stereotypes just the same as Honey Boo Boo makes a mockery of White Southerners. It is all about race with these Leftists, not where Whites are from. Let’s quit fighting the dang Civil War already. The Ohio River and Mason/Dixon are not stark, severe, and sudden cultural boundaries. Culture changes gradually. The lower North/Upper South is racial realist territory. Folks don’t magically become Leftist Libtards when one crosses the Ohio River or Mason/Dixon. These types are in the far Northern big cities.

          • Long Live Dixie

            The movie Fargo mocked the German/Scandinavian culture of the Upper Midwest . . ..

            It was something to laugh at – not something associated with stupidity, inbreeding, or immorality and it was one movie – not a regular theme. The biggest joke in the movie was the Oriental guy who had the Upper Midwest accent. Does that make Hollywood anti-Oriental?

            . . . Breaking Amish mocks the Amish horribly.

            The Amish are unassimilated Germans, not Yankees.

            . . . Jersey Shore makes Italian Americans look horrible . . ..

            I haven’t seen it, so I can’t comment. The fact that I’m able to miss anti-Northern sentiment in the mainstream media should be a clue that it isn’t an issue.

            Let’s quit fighting the dang Civil War already.

            Let’s quit repeating absurd mantras like this. It’s quite easy for the victor to say “quit refighting the war”. Why don’t Northerners ever us that mantra against their own kind who support screwing the South over? If standing up for Dixie is “refighting the war”, then why isn’t screwing the South also “refighting the war”?

            The Ohio River and Mason/Dixon are not stark, severe, and sudden cultural boundaries.

            I’m very aware that some people in the Lower Midwest are Southern. I posted on that subject several hours ago in this discussion. I have travelled through parts of the Lower Midwest many times. The people there originated in Kentucky and Virginia.

            These types are in the far Northern big cities.

            Vermont is the most rural state in Yankeedom and the most liberal.

          • SoulInvictus

            Lee, the flag, and the South in general are just easier targets.
            It’s a little more controversial when they assail Washington, Jefferson, etc since the FedGov still wants to cling to that revolutionary heritage for a fig leaf of legitimacy. But it’s still done.
            In the news lately you’ve seen the US flag, t shirts bearing it and such being treated similarly. There’s always been the occasional grumblings about founders being genocidal and slave owners.
            That’s just ramping up and facing more resistance from “old” America.
            They have to dismantle it all, the stuff that has (relatively) fewer staunch adherents are obviously the first to fall. They’ll get around to the rest.
            But you’re not wrong in that they have always particularly enjoyed stomping on the South.
            I think it’s one of those issues you’re maybe too close to for accurate observation. If regions of the South were in open revolt, or any kind of serious threat to the machine, then I might agree with you.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          I live North of the Ohio River. I’ve always loved the Confederate flag, ever since I was a kid, at which time my favorite TV show was Dukes of Hazzard. Most Northern Whites, in my experience, like the South, and appreciate Southern symbolism. The only Whites I have encountered who have an axe to grind with Southern Whites are the Libtard Lefties. These same folks hate us country folk here in the North who live in red counties. Basically, it is just the Negrophilic Lefties who hate White Southerners. These types hate all fellow Whites who are racial realists. To them, we are guilty of “racism”, which they find worse than assault and battery, rape, or homicide. Most Whites in the red county areas of the North love the South, and have a special place in our hearts for our brethren South of the Ohio River. For us, this flag stands for White Americans who go to work every day, protect our loved ones, and enjoy a good glass of Tennessee Whiskey after a hard day at work. We love Jesus, sing along with Sweet Home Alabama, and agree with Ted Nugent. We didn’t want the Negroes either, and want to secede from the Libtard Multicult Loons just like you guys.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Most Northern Whites, in my experience, like the South, and appreciate Southern symbolism.

            I hear this all the time from Yankeedom’s apologists on the internet. My own experiences tell me otherwise.

            Besides, I don’t really care what your people think of our flag. All I want from your people is that you stay out of our land and stay out of our business. We’ll handle the rest.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Our country is being overrun by Latinos, and wrecked by the Leftist/Negro coalition, and you sit here acting like your red county brethren North of the Ohio are space aliens. You are are acting like The Civil War is still raging, a war that pitted brother against brother. I hate the idea of Whites killing each other over Negroes. They could have been sent back to Africa with minimal bloodshed amongst Whites. Your senseless hatred of red county America outside of the South sickens me. Such hatred weakens Whites by dividing us, making us cannon fodder for the Blacks/Browns, who are our mortal enemies. Everything is about race with them, not North vs. South.

          • Long Live Dixie

            You’re barking up the wrong tree with your calls for white unity. The Yankees themselves want no unity. They want domination, not friendship. Am I supposed to ignore that they are mass migrating to my country and reshaping my land and people in their image, just because we are also experiencing a non-white problem (which they caused!)?

            No, the South was strongest without the Yankees. Uniting with them would be certain death for the South and for white survival in North America. Southerners are uniquely capable of dealing with the race problem. All we need is for the Yankees to back off and get out. The Yankees are a domineering people with no real heritage and no racial pride. Their hatred and scorn for Southerners far outweighs any mild dislike that some of them might have for non-whites. The average Yankee would definitely support the annihilation of the South if the South re-asserted her independence – and they would cite our supposed ‘racism’ against blacks as a major reason for their position. Unity with these people is pure fantasy.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Libtards are obsessed with the notion of “racism”. They are on an irrational rampage against all Whites who refuse to kiss Negro butt. You, sir, are on a rampage against everyone in the North.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Barking up the wrong tree with my calls for White Unity? In case you haven’t noticed, this is American Renaissance, not Southern Nationalist Network. Jared Taylor is not a Southern Nationalist. He is a White racial realist. I am a Pan-European White Nationalist. Your blind hatred of all Northerners makes you a petty sectionalist. Instead of hating Leftists, you hate all Northerners.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Barking up the wrong tree with my calls for White Unity?

            Yes, white unity is a fantasy. First, it demands that Southerners abandon our interests and identity in order to accommodate and ‘unite’ with Yankees, yet ‘white unity’ makes no demands on Yankees to respect Southern interests or change their ways at all. White unity simply means that Southerners allow Yankees to do whatever they want to Dixie. Second, the people we’re supposed to unite with are notoriously liberal. Only someone deep in a fantasy world could imagine that the racial situation of Dixie would improve by unity with places as liberal as Vermont, Massachusetts, Wisconsin, or Oregon.

            Instead of hating Leftists, you hate all Northerners.

            Your reasoning is identical to that of the multi-racialists. I say that I don’t want Northerners in my country and you interpret it as hating all Northerners. Similarly, when Leftists hear racial realists saying they don’t want blacks around, they interpret it as hating all blacks.

            I don’t hate all Northerners. I want nothing from Northerners but their total absence from Dixie.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I agree. With most Blacks, everything is about race. Blacks are not smart enough to perceive regional culture differences in White culture as we perceive them. To them, the Confederate flag symbolizes Whites first and foremost. When a Confederate flag is taken down, and a venerable White historical figure smeared, Blacks figure they have scored a victory against Whitey.

        • John R

          Exactly! I get into arguments with “Long Live Dixie” all the time on that. I respect some of his opinions, and his Southern pride, but people like him have got to stop fighting the Civil War all over again. The Leftists and their Negro allies, don’t give a rat’s butt about Northerners or Southerners. It is all about getting back at “YT.” And, as you said, the Confederate Flag is probably the most obvious symbol we have today of an openly White Racialist culture.

          • Long Live Dixie

            . . . but people like him have got to stop fighting the Civil War all over again.

            “Fighting the war again” – give me a break. That’s just the victor’s slogan when confronted with someone who doesn’t want to get steamrolled into compliance.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I respect his Southern Pride as well. I love the South, and the White pride that is a tradition with White Southerners. I hate it, though, when White Southerners pretend all of us Northern Whites are Lefties. The South has produced plenty of Leftists: Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon Johnson. Our friend Long Live Dixie needs to visit places like Central/Northern PA, or the rural parts of Ohio/Indiana, and talk to real people. If anything, racial realism is stronger in the North. White guilt doesn’t work so well on the descendants of poor farmers, or coal miners/steelworkers from Eastern Europe.

          • John R

            Good point: In the North, the tired argument: We were slaves, blah blah blah, doesn’t work with White Northerners, many of whom are descendants of poor immigrants. And my family-being Irish-were probably descendant of people trying to fight TO END slavery. Don’t use the guilt argument on me.

          • Long Live Dixie

            I don’t pretend that all Northerners are Leftists or that all Southerners are traditionalists. There are exceptions in either group, however the Southern Leftists you mention all relied on the US political system for their success. One (LBJ) was so hated by Southerners that he turned them away from the Democratic Party for 40 years.

            You are missing the point on two grounds: 1) The overall political result of the forced connection between the North and the South has been the Leftward shift of politics in the South. One Leftist trend after another has been pushed onto the South from the North – racial integration, homosexual marriage, the feminist movement, and so on. The fact that some Northerners object to these things and some Southerners support them does not change the fact that we in the South would not have these things if they had not come to us from the North. (As an analogy – there are some Jews who object to Hollywood’s message and some Gentiles who support it, but what would Hollywood be without Jews?) 2) The political changes that have come from the North are only one reason of many for Southern independence. The politics are not the reason for independence. Rather, they are a symptom of the clash of civilisations that is the forced North-South union.

          • SoulInvictus

            Can’t argue with any of that. It’s too bad more of the SN’s I’ve read your interactions with on the other boards don’t share your sense though. I decided to bow out to avoid throwing stones in their house (though, guess I have as much or more right as anyone to do so).
            They totally didn’t get the points I was making about marketing. I think that whole movement is limited to being a closed circle Daughters of long dead guys type thing…
            It would be interesting to see what could be done if folks were more in line with your thinking and also revised their marketing to capitalize on the growing broad discontentment and fervor for governing the way originally intended by the founders.

        • Long Live Dixie

          With most Blacks, everything is about race.
          Good thing I’m not black and I can see that the South is singled out for persecution by the Leftists.

  • Truthseeker

    I’m glad to hear there are still “rebels” out there who care about preserving the history of their people, even if certain things their ancestors did aren’t approved by today’s prevailing zeitgeist. We need more White tribalists to awaken.

  • SoCal88

    I would have thought that a simple “GFY!!!” would have sufficed

    • antiquesunlight

      Alas, the politically correct virus grows stronger and stronger in the South.

      • Long Live Dixie

        The inevitable result of Yankee migration to the South. I’ve never met a Southerner named ‘Ruscio’.

        • antiquesunlight

          That is true. The TV and the internet have a lot to do with it, too, I think. Yankee liberal decadence invades our people through the media nonstop.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Very true. Many of our people are becoming unrecognisable from Yankees in their attitudes and speech. The media are very Yankee-centric.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Actually, most Italian Americans are not Leftists. The Leftists are mostly Ashkenazim and Anglo-Celts of old New England extraction.

          • Long Live Dixie

            They are Leftist by Southern standards and their migration to the South (along with non-Italian Yankees) has turned the Upper South blue. A Northern conservative is a Leftist in the South.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I don’t call folks who keep Blacks out of their neighborhoods Leftists. These are not the folks turning Virginia into a blue state. These types are mostly from Boston/NYC. In the Midwest, we consider these folks to be complete lunatics. What is making me disgusted is that you lump a person from a rural red county in the Midwest together with the East Coast Libtards. Hamilton County, Ohio, which contains Cincinnati, is reliably a red county in elections. How in the heck do you paint folks in Cincy with the same brush as Bostonians??

          • Long Live Dixie

            It’s not my job to sort through the various political sub-cultures of the immigrants from the North who are invading Dixie. Their presence is unwelcome and is causing Dixie to lurch Leftward. Red county? Who cares? The Republicans are anti-Southern and – as I already said – Northern conservatives are liberals by Southern standards. On top of that – as I again already said – politics are not the primary reason why I am against the invasion of my country. I am against the Yankee invasion of Dixie because Yankees are a difference and incompatible people. They have their own land to live on. Instead, they choose to take ours, as well.

            I never said anything about Cincinnati. I’d appreciate it if you would not distort my comments. In fact, I said that much of the Lower Midwest was populated by Southern families in earlier years.

  • Next semester they’re going to dig up Lee’s bones and work some mojos to keep Obama in office.

  • Ronald

    “Ruscio defended Lee’s role as an educator at the school and said he
    “will not apologize for the crucial role [Lee] played in shaping this
    institution.”

    Of course Ruscio will not apologize for the crucial role Lee played in shaping the institution,,,until, that is, the Africans “demand” he do so.

  • Epiminondas

    It’s good to know we’re now living in “perfect times.” Finally.

    • Dr. Cramden

      Car marx’s paradise, Like south Africa.

  • Jack Burton

    “they should go ahead and remove his name from the school. I don’t think they’re worthy of his name.”

    If they’re going to remove our history, like the scumbag communists that they are, they should, remove Lee’s name and Washington’s name from the school, they were slave owners afterall.

    If Ruscio is so concerned with the comfort level of minorities, meaning blacks, he could do a lot of things. He should step down and give his job to a black.

    They have an “honor oath” at the school. What a joke that is.

  • Petronius

    Just another stain on our glorious banner.

    Deo vindice

  • Sharps Rifle

    If the 77 or 78 negroes there don’t like the ANV colors at Liberty Hall (the school’s name before it became Washington College, and then Washington and Lee), they should go to a different school. However, doing the sensible thing, such as just leaving, would not be typical negro behavior. Instead, they have to push themselves and what they want onto everyone else. This is entirely sickening.

    • John R

      You said it: “TNB”

  • emiledurk16

    3.5% of the student body dissolves the heritage of a people with the school’s administrative capitulation. And an apology is demanded.

    Decorum prevents a written expression of my rage.

    • Alexandra1973

      *sigh* Sometimes I wish I wasn’t born a Yankee. Born and raised in Michigan (Detroit area), residing in Ohio.

      • emiledurk16

        Same here (the Northeast)…aghhh
        I guess we can take a line from Dante.
        “I’m a Florentine by birth, but not by character.”

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Nothing wrong with being a Yankee. Most Northerners are racial realists. Ohio is a good state, as is Indiana. Ohio East of Columbus and South of Canton/Youngstown is red county territory. Southeastern Ohio needs to push secession like Western Maryland.

        • Long Live Dixie

          Most Northerners are racial realists.

          What dream world do you inhabit?

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I inhabit a real red county with few Negroes that does not make Negroes feel welcome. Country folk around here don’t like outsiders, and that includes misinformed Johnny Rebs who are still fighting The Civil War.

          • Long Live Dixie

            It’s noteworthy that you use the propaganda of the Left – ‘still fighting the Civil War’. Your words are identical to those of the Left.

            I’m not here to argue whether or not Yankees are Leftists in Ohio (although your state did go for Obama twice). The Yankees who move here are overwhelmingly Leftists. The Yankees I have known during my time in the North were overwhelmingly Leftists. The South has a long history of being forced to the Left by Northern political power and by Northern migration. Denying the obvious is stupid.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            These Leftists are mostly to almost entirely from the East Coast, Chicago Metro, Northeastern Ohio, or Michigan/Wisconsin/Minnesota. Their outlook is seen the same in downstate Illinois, Indiana, and Southern/Western Ohio as it is in Dixie.

  • Bobbala

    I’m shocked … shocked that Robert E. Lee has yet to be played by Samuel L. Jackson in the movies coming to his senses and burning Dixie from Richmond to Jacksonville in a glorious liberation.

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    I have an idea. Let’s erase history. You know, pretend none of it ever happened. Or happened the way we say/want it to have happened. Yeah. That’s a good idea, right? If we don’t like the way history went down, let’s piss, moan, and cry about it until we erase the things that hurt our feelings. In my neck of the woods, a street near my hood had to change its name because it belonged to one of our area’s founding fathers, who apparently was a (extremely successful) white supremacist. These negroes are trying to revise history and construct a (fake) society built upon their intellectual inferiority. It may sound pretty to their ears, but it will prove to be a disaster.

    • Patriot’s Notebook

      At the rate we are going, history won’t be erased, but, revised to insure that it was the black and minorities that had their ideas stolen by evil White men to create our Constitution and freedom.

      In the revised history, which is happening now….EVERY White is racist merely for existing.

    • TruthBeTold

      The ‘Civil Rights Movement’ was the Second Civil War and the Left won.

      As the victors, they are now re-writing history.

      They are actively purging American history of White American heroes and redefining them as ‘racists’ thereby making anything they established before the Civil Rights Movement illegitimate.

    • dd121

      I don’t know about erase but the left is certainly re-writing it. My daddy didn’t seem to think that the Tuskegee Airmen were the glorious fighting blacks that single-handedly won WWII. That seems to be a recent invention.

      • Some Chosenites helped. We have Steven Spielberg movies to teach us what really happened.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          Afrocentrism is really a Jewish invention, see Herskovits and Bernal. The mainstream consensus that blacks have a history worth recording was orchestrated by Jews. African studies only became a taxpayer-funded university program because of the pioneering efforts of some Jew named Herskovits.

      • Dr. Cramden

        Why the Tuskegee Airman struck fear in the heart of the Luftwaffe.

    • Dr. Cramden

      You have just described Orwell’s 1984. This is exactly what happened in South Africa the black devils had the names of the streets changed from white names to Black names.
      Welcome to South Africa a decaying dying nation under Black mindless rule.

  • Puggg

    Next item on the agenda: Moving the mausoleum off the campus

    Then after that: Taking “Lee” off the name of the school

    Then after that: Taking “Washington” off the name of the school (he owned slaves)

    End result: Angela Davis University.

    • Sick of it

      The Trayvon Martin Institute of Higher Learning…

  • D.B. Cooper

    Good! Any statue of Lee should be next removed, and they should stop showing reruns of Dukes of Hazzard. Whitey’s not doing anything except bending over and taking it. I say keep striking until they fight back, and I know most whites will only fight back if it means defending diversity.

  • JohnEngelman

    If those blacks feel uncomfortable at Washington and Lee University they should transfer to another University. They should not have gone there in the first place. I wonder how many got in on an affirmative action program.

    • Steven Williams

      No. Blacks should transfer back to Africa. They do not belong here in the first place. This also goes to all the non-whites back to their homelands except the Natives.

    • John R

      Same story different day. Blacks hate Whites; blacks are uncomfortable around Whites; blacks despise Whites. But blacks complain if they can’t go to our schools, live in our neighborhoods, and sleep with our daughters, and receive more of our tax dollars. There is no reasoning with blacks.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Many whites feel that way about blacks, I really do not want to be around the majority of them.

        • antiquesunlight

          Amen. I would complain if I had to do any of those things with blacks. Especially the sleep with their daughters part.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            No doubt!! The idea of intimacy with a Negress turns my stomach. Miscegenation is on the same level as homosexuality and Beasteality. It is deviance.

      • Chasmania

        Black behavior is easily explained by their proclivities and their indoctrination.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Exactly. They are only three percent of the student body at a school named after Robert E. Lee. If they do not appreciate the Southern Heritage of this college, they need to transfer to any one of a myriad of colleges with a large Black student population, where expressions of Black pride are appropriate. Only Blacks would have the arrogant raw nerve and audacity to expect a campus that celebrates Southern Heritage to bow to their wishes. What is next? Blacks expecting to hear only Nat King Cole singing at Italian restaurants instead of Italian Opera?? Blacks are like children. They need to be told “no” when making these ridiculous demands.

      • Hallie Eva

        If their demands are not met, blacks throw tantrums, destructive ones, and no one is willing to mete out the proper punishment.

  • Luca

    Lee was a patriot who thought he was doing the right thing by defending his homeland of Virginia. If you don’t like it don’t attend the school. Go play basketball somewhere else.

  • MekongDelta69

    I’m looking for any White college administrator for a backbone?

    Have YOU seen any?

    Nah – me neither…

    • Chasmania

      I’d prefer morals and a sense of self preservation. Even jellyfish try to survive when extinction threatens.

  • r j p

    3.5% black equals 79 black students?
    That sounds about like a feetsball and bassetball team.

    • Sharps Rifle

      77 and a fraction, so I rounded up to 78.

      • r j p

        It’s 79.695. 2277 x 0.035. My numbers rock.

  • Long Live Dixie

    President Kenneth P. Ruscio’s announcement was a surprising move for the small, private liberal arts college in Lexington, which has long celebrated its Southern heritage.

    What is surprising about a Carpetbagger college president throwing out Southern heritage?

    • Alexandra1973

      Sounds like a scalawag. 🙂

      I was born in the wrong state.

      • Long Live Dixie

        I was born in the wrong state.

        Too many people think the Southern identity is based solely on location of birth. It is not; this is a very American way of thinking. Southerners are Southerners because of the tribe they’re born into. Southerners can be born anywhere – I have heard of Southerners born in Germany, Italy, and Japan. The other day, I met a Southerner born in Ohio. There are still Southern communities in southern Illinois who are descended from settlers from Kentucky and Virginia who settled that region 200 years ago. These people are Southern because they were born into Southern families. Their parents were Southern, their grandparents were Southern, and so on. Generations of Southern ancestry doesn’t disappear just because someone’s parents happened to be living elsewhere when they were born. Likewise, Yankees who happen to be born in the South do not become Southern just because their parents happened to live in the South during their birth. A folkish identity comes from blood, not from location of birth.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Why don’t you just own up to your hatred of Whites who are of Continental European ancestry? This is what you are really saying. Never mind that the New England Abolitionists were Anglo-Celts, and that their descendants/Ashkenazi Americans form the core of the White Leftist colossus, or that England is presently the most Leftist land in Europe.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Why don’t you just own up to your hatred of Whites who are of Continental European ancestry?

            Are you on drugs? Only a lunatic could have interpreted my comments in that way.

            Confederate Flags are quite popular in Croatia these days, yet you are insistent that anyone with a Continental European last name is not Southern.

            Croatia’s Southern sympathisers are irrelevant to the ethnic stock of Southerners.

            I’m insistent that anyone with a continental European last name is not Southern? I haven’t even said that at all, much less ‘insisted’ on it. You’re clearly either a drug addict, an imbecile, or a compulsive liar. I’ll leave you to your delusions.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Don’t let Long Live Dixie make you grovel. He hates everyone from North of the Ohio river. You are a Midwesterner. We have no use for East Coast Liberals here in rural Ohio, but he paints us with the same brush as the lunatics from Boston/NYC. I always specify NYC, as most of Upstate NY is solid red county territory. Long Live Dixie is still fighting the Civil War.

        • Long Live Dixie

          He hates everyone from North of the Ohio river.

          And yet in this very thread, I talked of the Southerners who live north of the Ohio River. If you’re going to lie about me, at least lie in a thread where I haven’t posted something that proves you to be a liar.

          Your posts are so full of lies, distortions, and Leftist talking points that I choose to waste no more time refuting them.

  • Long Live Dixie

    Southerners are a polite people who have taken a lot of abuse, but insulting our most beloved hero – and at his own gravesite – is surely going to wake up many.

    • CarolinaGem

      I wish they would friend, but I don’t see if happening. Folks have yet to wake up what is happening to our current government; 20+ “scandals” of various sorts with no calls to deal with the usurper. Do you really think will be any reaction to attacks against our heritage? I hate it as much as any Southerner, but it is hard now to get anyone to take an interest in our heritage; many young Southern whites who don’t seem to have any interest or care. It is sad.

      • Long Live Dixie

        I’m not saying I expect a general uprising. What I am saying is that I think many Southerners will be shocked and outraged enough by this to begin the path towards radicalisation. For the first time in decades, Southerners are beginning to organise as Southerners. Things are different than they once were.

    • Chasmania

      It will hardly cause a ripple, sadly. The outrages heaped on whites, and southern whites in particular, are too outrageous and too many to enumerate, but we all know them and remember them. With work and divine providence they will be undone.

    • Wishsong

      Unfortunately, most people will never even hear about this.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I think you’re right. Hallie Eva thinks that this may have been triggered by pro-fessional agitators, just as the Marxists/Communists did a century ago. That is possible but, their timing was really stupid. We already have a Republican land-slide in the making for November and 2016. This stunt will only help accelerate that landslide. European-America understands now (and more so with news like this) they’re under occupation by anti-white Chicago thugs. This was a gift to the Republicans.

      • Hallie Eva

        Dang straight, I do, Andrew. These alleged students are useful fools, just as the uncivil rights demonstrators were. You have read Rules for Radicals; it is all about keeping things chaotic and in your face.
        Historically, this America hating administration has been able to successfully pull off one power wielding fiasco after the other, knowing they will never be confronted.
        Or, if hauled before an oversight committee, the emails are lost or no one knew anything about anything.
        What makes you think we are better off with the Repubs? They have sold us down the same river.
        It is hard to believe how far I have drifted into distrust of my own once beloved country.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Andrew Breitbart covers Alinsky and the Frankfurt School thoroughly in his book: Righteous Indignation.

          I also read his book Hollywood Interrupted.

  • AmericanCitizen

    What needs to happen is someone, anyone, needs to say “no” to a group like this. The school president should have said “sorry if you are offended, please find another school to enroll in if you don’t like ours.” The reason all this ridiculous political correctness keeps happening is because people bow down to it. A simple “no, we won’t agree to your demands” will go a long way.

    • A fair notion, but in practice there would be no quicker way to shut Washington and Lee University down for good.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Precisely. Blacks are bullies and whiners. A simple “no” is the best answer for them. If they want to celebrate Black culture, they can head to D.C. to any one of a number of Black colleges. They need to be told that Washington& Lee celebrates Southern Heritage, and if this makes them uncomfortable, they need to transfer to a different college.

  • 1gravity

    I would not personally fly the Confederate Battle flag, because I do not think I could have made it in the Army of Northern Virginia. Poorly provisioned, usually outnumbered, and suffering a casualty rate easily in excess of 50%, the Army of Northern Virginia presents a standard I would not presume to be able to meet. In the alternative, I have purchased a Confederate Third National flag, and matching lapel pins, which express my sentiments.

    • Petronius

      Out of a white population of less than six million, the Confederacy was able to put over one million soldiers in the field. That is a ratio of better than 1 : 6, an astonishing figure when one considers the fact that most of the population was composed of women, children, and old men.

      By and large, if you were a Southern man over age 14, you were a Confederate combat soldier.

      Of these million, more than one in four were killed in combat or died (slow murder) in Yankee prison camps. Officially over 258,000 Confederate soldiers died in the WBTS, but the true, more recent figure now given is over 300,000. To this figure is added another 100,000 or so civilian casualties. If the South had lost in this same proportion in WW2, it would have had about six million soldiers killed. If the South lost in this proportion today, it would have over eleven million killed.

      The number of Confederates wounded is unknown, but in the Union armies the ratio of wounded to killed/died was about 3 : 1. Applying this same ratio to the Confederate armies, the number of killed and wounded would exceed the total number of Confederate soldiers under arms. Obviously many Confederate soldiers were wounded more than once, receiving wounds in different battles, and returned to duty. In many cases Confederate soldiers returned to their regiments with wounds that would be considered crippling today.

      It is inconceivable that modern Americans would accept casualties on this scale. There is no equal in American history to the Confederate soldier for fighting spirit, loyalty, sense of duty, and fortitude in adversity.

      • Thanks for the lesson. There’s a confederate cemetery near my house and the first time I visited it I was shocked at how young the soldiers were and how far away from home most of them were. Their courage, valor and honor are barely legal to recognize in this benighted society we now have.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        To add to your fine post…

        For the WBTS, Arthur Kemp gives a figure of 610,000 for the overall death toll on the White populations of the North and South.

        The North’s white population of 22 million means that its 360,000 dead represented 1.6 percent of the total. The South, with its white population of 5.5 million, suffered a loss in excess of 4.5 percent. This was to set back the growth of the southern white population by decades, a factor which counts against them to this day.

        Any economist could have predicted the outcome of the war: The North was always the overwhelming power, possessing all the major industrial complexes and had a population of over twenty-two million against the South’s total of less than nine million. The Confederacy was bled dry and did not have the population reserves of the North.

        There were some 5.5 million Whites to continually resupply the North’s armed forces. As a result, when the Union launched its final campaign of 1864, it was able to field some 235,000 men against the Confederacy’s total army of 135,000 undersupplied and underfed soldiers.

        What’s more important is this: NO more White-on-White wars! Especially, no more Whites sacrificed in 3rd world hell holes that are of no interest to the White race.

        Our goal now must be to preserve and protect the White Race and secure a safe environment, resources and future for White children.

        Is there ANYTHING more important than THAT?

        • dd121

          By restrictive banking of the North kept the South in poverty for the next hundred years. It was only in the 60s and 70s that the South began to pull out of the economic oppression imposed by the North.

          • Petronius

            The punitive Reconstruction taxes on cotton and tobacco were not lifted until the New Deal.

            It was another fifty years before the protective tariffs came down.

            No conservative Southerner has been elected to national office in the US since James K. Polk in 1844.

            No conservative Southerner has been appointed to the Supreme Court since James C. McReynolds in 1914.

          • dd121

            It was very vindictive and hateful. At least they honored the paroles that were granted and didn’t hang the leaders of the Confederacy. (though some wanted to anyway).

        • Long Live Dixie

          NO more White-on-White wars!

          This is fantasy. There will always be white-on-white wars. In the case of Dixie, millions of Yankees rabidly hate Southerners. When we re-assert our independence, I am absolutely certain that Yankees will attempt to create a bloodbath in the South.

          • Petronius

            Yes. In the Northern mind, the Union is like The Hotel California.

            You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            White on White wars are not necessary. White Leftists, and Southerners who will not stop fighting the Civil War are the two groups standing in the way of White unity. If Whites would act as a United Front, we would not be in the mess we are in. Northern cities had virtually no crime until the South started sending us their Negro problem.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    If the school is so racist, why do blacks want to go there?

    • Sharps Rifle

      To annoy Whites.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        And pay for it.

        • Dr. Cramden

          Then whites need to withdraw the funds.

    • JDInSanD

      If this country is so racist then why does everyone want to come here? And why do they stay?

    • Hallie Eva

      They were probably sent in by professional agitators to do just what they did.
      The Communists did the same thing.
      Next, muzzies will demand the removal of all other religions’ iconography.
      As it is, our muzzie prez orders the crosses covered when he speaks at Christian universities.

  • John R

    So, let the pandering begin again. And can we ever satisfy the blacks that we are not a “racist” society? (If only we were!) Of course not. Blacks will still hate us. So, when are we going to say “enough” of the concessions to this ungrateful race of useless people who will never be satisfied? I know people on this site like to talk about a wide variety of issues, but I for one feel the Negro issue lies at the very core of the phenomenon of White Guilt and the decline of our society. If we could finally control that one ungrateful minority, all the others would fall in line, believe me. All our problems began in the sixties with our pandering to the Negro.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Wonder what the alums and wealthy benefactors have to say about this?

    Any descendants of Gen. Lee should demand his immediate removal from the university. Washington and Lee were both “evil White slave owners” so their names should be scrubbed entirely from the school. It’s only a matter of time before they are.

    As in Russia during the bloody Bolshevik era, monuments and traditional Russian churches were destroyed.

    Name it after a couple of PC heroes instead: Denzel Washington and Spike Lee.

    I hope the alums hit the school hard by withholding donations.

    • r j p

      One of the City Colleges of Chicago is named Malcolm X College.

    • jayvbellis

      Your mission, should you choose to accept it is to put together a good contact list of Washington and Lee alums.

    • Hallie Eva

      Lee descendants must exist aplenty.
      R.E. Lee and Ms. Custis had 7 offspring.

      • If memory doesn’t fail, REL has three direct descendants in their 30s right now, it’s either two men and one woman, or one man and two women. None of them have the surname Lee.

        Jefferson Davis has no direct descendants, because he had five children, all sons, and all of them died of malaria before they could procreate.

        The last Abraham Lincoln direct descendant died in 1985.

        • Hallie Eva

          As a great admirer of Lee, I am pleased to hear of living descendants.
          It is just as well Lee did not survive as a surname; now that we are flooded with yellows, it might be mistaken for Chinese.

  • everything for the blacks . . . .

    • r j p

      Two of the worst and most destructive American presidents.
      Both from Illinois …. coincidence?

      • jayvbellis

        Worst a Presidents are from….. Texas

        LBJ, George Dubya Bush

  • Ernest

    This doesn’t stop here. All history/symbols/ancestors prior to about 1970 are suspect. Whites are despicable. May God and our ancestors have mercy on us.

  • Mike Lane

    Shapiro

    • Well, it’s the Washington Post, what were you expecting?!

  • Dr. Cramden

    Keep the Confederate flags and remove all the Blacks.

  • Mike Lane

    I blame the administration more than anything. It’s because of spineless scum like these, who are in high positions, that our entire way of life has been ripped apart and puked out by the race-bating blacks, the chauvinistic gays, feminists, the postmodern deconstructionists, and every other Leftist parasite. If they had only said “To hell with you!” 50 years ago in the universities we wouldn’t have been in this mess.

    We can fix it. No more of this under-the-radar trash. We need to be loud unlike our cowardice ancestors.

    • Chasmania

      They’re not spineless, likely as not. Most likely they are willing cohorts of the ‘offended’.

    • jayvbellis

      Don’t just blame “the administration” – name names. Some real flash and blood (white) men and women did this treason and so far they haven’t paid any personal price for their treason. American Right wing a Conservatives always make this critical mistake, they don’t make things personal they just complain about institutions.

  • dd121

    By my reckoning the Lee Crypt is the most sacred space in the universe. If I were running the university I would damn well make the darkies feel unwelcome. Several generations of the Lee men were students after the General’s death. They were treated like Southern Royalty. These leftists won’t even keep their hands off the most sacred symbols of the fight for Southern liberty. Shame on all of them.

  • If a small, noisy minority can make a university administration bow to its demands, why can’t a large, noisy majority do the same? Whites need to get off their butts and picket, protest, invade and occupy the university president’s office, and make life utterly miserable for these spineless cowards. Further, we need to file lawsuits, both against the university and the black students who caused this. What shall we sue them about? We’ll think of something. Let’s get to it.

    • Chasmania

      Because if they protested whites will be told to stop or be arrested, or outed as racist scum, and then fearing for their jobs and reputation they will go away and be quiet and polite.

  • Allan477

    I suppose that next year it will become Martin Luther King University.

    • The King fambly will demand too much royalties.

      • r j p

        There would probably be a MLK University already if a college wasn’t afraid of being charged a per student fee.

  • The loving Tolerance Police strikes again.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Though I live in a Northern state, I fly the Confederate flag with pride. Every time this flag is taken down, it is a slap in the face of the many venerable descendants of Confederate Veterans. Though my forebears were still in Germany and Sweden at the time of the war of Northern Aggression, my sentiments lie with good old Dixie when it comes to this tragic war. The South wanted peace, a life of peace for the small farmer with minimal Government interference. The Confederacy would have sent the Negroes back to Africa where they belong, had they won the war. This I have no doubt about. Long Live Dixie!!! I’ll never take my Confederate flag down. Never!!!

  • Garrett Brown

    Many of my friends are going/ have gone to W&L. I even heavily considered it at one point. I stated so proudly because of their history and I knew we were much less likely to be brainwashed there than say Tech or UVA. This news is quite sad for a native Southwest Virginian. Not surprising, but still a disappointment.

    • jayvbellis

      Get contacts for Washington and Lee alums, start a rebellion.

  • meanqueen

    On the one hand, I can understand why blacks would be uncomfortable with any symbol of slavery. But is the Confederate flag a symbol of slavery? Is the south ONLY known for its slave history? Almost my entire family on both sides were from the south and many family members fought in the Confederate army, including an ancestor who was a Colonel. So I have an attachment to this flag and this “old world.” It has historical significance. Not every southerner owned slaves. Not every southerner approved of slavery. Southern culture, as represented by the Confederate flag, stood for a whole culture. If someone is uncomfortable with it, maybe they should choose among the other thousands of college choices they have available to them. Why must everything be altered to accommodate them and their feelings.

  • meanqueen

    That be “skoo” to you.

  • Pro_Whitey

    Washington and Lee were both known for having provided for freedom for their slaves at a time when it was perfectly legal to keep them. They sought to set an example. Little good it does them, eh? They should have also made arrangements to send them back to Africa at the same time, to set a better example.

  • Ograf

    They feel uncomfortable sitting in the room with the flags etc. Obviously this would be the case as Robert E and his boys may come back to life and harm them. Slavery was by far not the biggest issue in the Civil War. Plus they knew where they were going to school when they applied. If not happy they should change schools.

    • Ringo Lennon

      Biggest issue in Civil War was United States mustn’t be destroyed by warmongers from South Carolina.

  • Peter Connor

    Really pathetic–giving up your heritage for a mess of pottage.

  • Michigan Patriot

    But non-assimilating , anti-White society norms, disparate inter-racial crimes, complete dependency for jobs, education or just plain ” free social service handouts ” on the White man and dressing like ghetto thugs and want it accepted as normal at White created and White owned businesses ( Café Louie, for one example ) is never branded as ” racist , spiteful, ingratitude or a hate crime symbol ” directed at White society; just critizing blacks for the above infractions makes us the bad guy but never them. Slavery existed under the American flag from 1776 through 1865 ; under the Confederate flag from 1861 till 1865, which duration was far longer ? Yet,the confederate flag gets the bum rap. Damn libtards, bastard commies.

  • trailwalker

    If
    you are offended by Lee’s place in U.S., Virginia and Confederate
    history, then don’t apply to Washington and Lee University. I wouldn’t
    want to attend, for example, if it existed, Albert Speer University.

    However,
    since the black students are offended and W&L feels compelled to
    respond, Lee Chapel should only be a part of the museum and final
    resting place of Lee and his family members and not used for student
    activities. The university should build a new chapel for
    students. Perhaps changing the name of the university to Lexington
    University would satisfy the black students who are offended by Lee’s
    place in U.S. History.

  • jayvbellis
  • Harry

    Importing slaves from Africa was outlawed after 1808, but there is a saying that goes “Money talks and bull**** walks”.

    After 1808, Yankee shipbuilders continued to make ships for illegally smuggling slaves from Africa to the United States of America, until the beginning of the Civil War. The United States federal government, with the exception of rare cases like the Amestead, prosecuted few such acts of this piracy.

    During the Civil War, the Union blockade would have made slave smuggling impossible. When the Civil War broke out, the Confederacy needed blockade running ships to smuggle weapons, ammunition, and other supplies needed for the Confederate Army, because the South had very little, if any industries.

    Besides, not everyone who willingly fought for the Union during the Civil War was for abolishing slavery. Not everyone who willingly fought for Confederacy was for slavery. I say willingly because both the Union and the Confederacy had military conscription.

    I think it would make a fantastic online article for American Renaissance, for a contemporary true story about the minority of blacks who fly the Confederate flag, if such a story at this website has not already happened.

    • Hallie Eva

      Besides, not everyone who willingly fought for the Union during the Civil War was for abolishing slavery.

      Many Union soldiers deserted when Lincoln declared emancipation.
      “I am not putting my life on the line for coloreds” was heard among the conscriptees.

    • Long Live Dixie

      I think it would make a fantastic online article for American Renaissance, for a contemporary true story about the minority of blacks who fly the Confederate flag, if such a story at this website has not already happened.

      There’s already too much tendency to focus on the tiny number of blacks who fly the Confederate flag. It’s too easy to slip into Rainbowism. I’d just as soon ignore the issue entirely. I have never seen a black at a Southern nationalist event and I probably never will.

  • LHathaway

    “Dorsey said the university was, “in effect, desecrating Lee’s grave,” and he predicted a backlash. “I don’t think we’ll let it stand. It’s going to be long, nasty fight.”

    Unfortunately, for Brandon Dorsey, that fight took place 150 years ago and his side lost. No amount of civil war reenactments will change that.

  • LHathaway

    One thing is for sure, there wont be a reduction in the number of schools being named after black heroes. And none of them will be taking their name’s down. And none of them will be welcoming of whites in any way.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Sad but true. In 20 years, Negro children will most likely attend Danny Glover Elementary, or Morgan Freeman High School. I must say, though, the GED program being named Tupac Shakur GED program would certainly fit a GED program for Blacks perfectly.

  • Long Live Dixie

    From the Virginia Flaggers site –

    CALL TO ACTION:

    1) We need to make sure the University hears from AS MANY PEOPLE as possible over the next few days and weeks. PLEASE take the time to contact every person listed below. Use telephone, email, and mail to convey to them your feelings about the desecration of Robert E. Lee’s final resting place. If you are an alumni or donor, make sure you let them know that your donations will cease until the flags are restored to their rightful place.

    Light up the W&L switchboard…call early, and often!

    2) Please forward this email to EVERYONE on your email list, especially to and W&L alumni or students you may know. It is imperative that we spread the word QUICKLY.

    Washington & Lee University Contact Information:

    President
    Mr. Kenneth Ruscio
    Washington and Lee University
    204 West Washington Street
    Lexington,Virginia 24450
    (540) 458-8700
    [email protected]

    Provost
    Daniel Wubah
    Washington and Lee University
    Washington Hall 214
    Lexington,Virginia 24450
    (540)458-8418
    [email protected]

    BOARD OF TRUSTEES

    Secretary of the University:
    James D. Farrar, Jr.
    Washington & Lee University
    203 Washington Hall
    Lexington,VA 24450
    (540)458-8465
    [email protected]

    Executive Assistant to the Board of Trustees:
    Katherine Brinkley
    Washington & Lee University
    202 Washington Hall
    Lexington,VA 24450
    (540)458-8417
    [email protected]

    Thank you, in advance, for your diligence in this matter.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    The Confederate flag Is the only American flag that deserves respect in the hearts of White racial realists anywhere. The Stars and Bars fly proudly all over the states of the former Northwest Territory. I remember reading on AmRen, a while back, that Confederate flags are quite popular in Croatia.

  • trailwalker

    If
    you are offended by Lee’s place in U.S., Virginia and Confederate
    history, then don’t apply to Washington and Lee University. I wouldn’t
    want to attend, for example, if it existed, Albert Speer University.

    However,
    since the black students are offended and W&L feels compelled to
    respond, Lee Chapel should only be a part of the museum and final
    resting place of Lee and his family members and not used for student
    activities. The university should build a new chapel for
    students.

    Perhaps changing the name of the university to Lexington
    University would satisfy the black students who are offended by Lee’s
    place in U.S. History.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Indeed. The answer is, and always has been: “Segregation Now, Segregation Forever!!” – George Wallace-

  • Long Live Dixie

    Ruscio needs to be shown the door to Dixie. We have been far too tolerant of Yankee invaders like him for far too long. Allowing them to hold positions of influence is especially deplorable.

  • dwpittelli

    Does anyone know if General Lee himself displayed the Confederate flag after the end of the Civil War? I thought he was a loyal American after 1865 (he died in 1870), who called for reconciliation of the nation, and I would be a bit surprised to learn that he had displayed it or been associated with it then, perhaps apart from during reunions with other Confederate veterans. (Of course, displaying the flag would have been seen as more inflammatory in 1866-1870 than it was after a generation or two had passed.)

    • Hallie Eva

      Lee flew his own “headquarter flag.”

      • dwpittelli

        Thanks. I see he flew it from June 1862 until the summer of 1863. But did he fly it at Washington University? (I wouldn’t think so.)

  • kikz2

    puke…………….

  • Long Live Dixie

    Those organisations are just heritage groups. They’re not ‘patriotic’, they just support symbolism and don’t get too concerned with politics. I’m glad they’ll be protesting in this case, but let’s not think they want a free and independent Southland run by Southerners.

    • A Reasonable Rebel

      I consider them patriotic as well as being defenders of Southern heritage. They may not be secessionists like the League of the South, but they include some politically “radical” individuals and they are carrying on the fight against the travesty occuring at Washington & Lee University among other causes.
      I’d call their activism patriotic, and I think we can count on them as allies. In the meantime, I’m fairly certain that few of them vote “D.”

  • SoulInvictus

    It surprised me a great deal when I visited that area and saw confederate flags flying and being sold at the local mall.
    You don’t even see much of that here.

    Encountering that in PA and south Jersey was a little mind blowing.